Scientists Link Stomach Flu Outbreak to Reusable Shopping Bag
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Scientists have discovered that a reusable grocery bag contaminated with what some experts are calling “the perfect pathogens” is responsible for an outbreak of norovirus infections in a group of middle school soccer players, MSNBC’s JoNel Aleccia reports.
For those of you who aren’t familiar with the term “norovirus,” it’s the bug behind the “stomach flu.” You know, the thing that gives you powerful bouts of vomiting or “watery diarrhea” or both (because why not?).
How did this happen? The simplest explanation is that the reusable bag was just plain dirty. It was a playground for bacteria and germs.
“We wash our clothes when they’re dirty; we should wash our bags, too,” said Kimberly K. Repp, an epidemiologist with the Washington County Department of Health and Human Services, whose work on the infected reusable bags will be published in the “Journal of Infectious Diseases.”
Repp was part of the team tasked with figuring out why a group of middle school soccer players and their chaperons caught the bug while they were staying on the road for a weekend tournament.
The thing that puzzled the scientists studying the minor outbreak was the fact that the first person to get the bug was removed from the others and taken home the next day. But despite not being exposed to the virus, the others still caught it.
The reason this was so puzzling is because prior to this specific incident, it was generally believed that the bug could only be transmitted through person-to-person interaction.
“It involved really thinking outside the bag, so to speak,” Repp said.
After digging into the story, her team discovered the reason nine people caught the stomach flu was because of a reusable shopping bag that was left near the bathroom where the first soccer player became violently ill.
“The girl had been very ill in the hotel bathroom, spreading an aerosol of norovirus that landed everywhere, including on the reusable grocery bag hanging in the room,” Aleccia writes.
Simply put, “virus particles from vomit and feces can actually fly through the air, land on things like bags, and then survive there for week,” according to NPR.
Repp’s team investigated the bag and found it tested positive for the bug — two weeks after the incident.
Considering that noroviruses “are perhaps the perfect human pathogens,” as Aron J. Hall of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (try putting that on a business card) writes, and the fact that the virus is responsible for an estimated 70,000 hospitalizations and 800 deaths, the fact that it can latch onto things like dirty reusable grocery bags for weeks at a time is disconcerting (to say the least).
And this isn’t the first time scientists have written about diseases carried by the eco-friendly bags .
“[Repp’s] Oregon study follows a 2010 paper by researchers at the University of Arizona and Loma Linda University that found large numbers of bacteria in reusable grocery bags, including 12 percent that were contaminated with E. coli,” Aleccia, “When scientists stored the bags in the trunks of cars for two hours, the number of bacteria jumped 10-fold.”
Needless to say, this most recent discovery will probably reignite arguments over the safety of reusable bags and possibly stymie activists’ attempts to ban stores from offering paper or plastic alternatives.
Of course, to be fair, the norovirus isn’t exclusively attracted to reusable bags.
“As long as something can land on it, it can transmit the virus,” says Repp. “It doesn’t matter what the substance is.”
So perhaps the lessons here are a) keep bags of food away from middle schoolers who happen to be violently ejecting their insides and b) wash your bags.
This story has been updated.




















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Comments (88)
barber2
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 12:55amThis gives another meaning to the “green revolution !” Think disposable products were first introduced as a more sanitary item ! Not that the Democrats care about sanitary..look at the Occupies !
Report Post »AB5r
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 7:55amI bring that up when I see someone schlepping in line with a reusable bag. I comment to the people around me in line and then to the clerk how those bags carry germs and that the plastic bags are perfectly clean. Why don’t we just bring in containers from home to the meat and deli department also for them to fill. Talk about gross. We all know there are are some truly disgusting people out there, who in the world wants them bringing all their crud into our food and drug stores!?!?! Liberalism is a mental disorder. Someone with those bags is also a huge red flag screaming the world the person is either a crazy liberal, lives with a crazy liberal, is stupid, doesn’t understand science, etc.
Report Post »koyettsu
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 8:23amLOL that is so funny, all the do gooders who think they are high and mighty for buying a bag are getting their reward for their ignorance.
Report Post »Johnny Cocheroo
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 9:01amYou know, there is nothing wrong with recycling and reusing. We have let it morph into a liberal idea, when it is actually a conservative one. We are against extreme gov‘t forced recycling but that doesn’t mean that we should go in the exact opposite direction – which is extreme too.
I have been using these bags for over a year and like using them. I have not seen anyone using gross infested bags yet – nor have I gotten sick yet. As a business model, I like Aldi’s approach. Let consumers use packaging boxes to carry out their groceries or let them pay for bags.
Report Post »AB5r
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 9:28amCome on, it is just sort of lame to have people carry out their stuff in packing boxes. There is a cost benefit analysis that must be done. Sure, recycling the plastic bags is fine, but extreme measures to use bags from home or to use boxes from shipping is just too much, at least to use on a large scale. If one or two nuts want to use packing boxes that doesn‘t hurt anything but it just won’t work for millions of people. Society runs on efficiency and ease of use, that actually matters. Taking our society back to the middle ages simply is not a good option regardless of what people imagine that will mean for the environment. Hint – it was much dirtier and gross back then.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 9:56ambarber2
I happened onto a news article on reusable bags last week. The forum had comments for & against. It related to LA’s ban on plastic bags.
Never mind that plastic bags can be made out of corn product & be biodegradable. The Greens have their mindset & they will not budge.
And all the hippie & leftist commenters still swear by them.
“Reusable grocery bags found to be full of bacteria”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/24/AR2010062406143_2.html
Friday, June 25, 2010
& the hits just keep on coming!
Report Post »Johnny Cocheroo
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 11:10amYou ever shop at an Aldi’s? They have local produce, a different brand selection of foods (ever notice how the large stores seem to have exactly the same thing?)
The cost benefit of Aldi’s must be great
Report Post »– low stocking costs
- less employee labor with boxes & garbage
- cheaper product prices
- customer’s remove the boxes for you
- customers who want plastic bags pay for them (keeping prices lower for those who opt out)
Walkabout
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 12:57pmJohnny Cocheroo
We shop at Aldi’s (a German Company) every week. You are right Conservation is a conservative ideal & was on the map way before the hippies were born. We never buy bags at Aldis. The bags from other stores are or can be made out of biodegradable plastic. What is wrong with bio degradable plastic? It can be made from corn starch & there its’ raw material can never be used up.
Report Post »TrueSoundsOfLiberty
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 12:15amAnd what have people learned from this story…. nothing! Just one more reason to bash on assumed liberals and assumed hippies. Do people understand that this could have happened due to touching a doorknob or shaking hands? Oh and did anyone happen to notice the source of the story, it was MSNBC, therefore this is all a lie.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 2:30amBrass doorknobs kill ‘em critts, for your info. But yea, no quarrel that diseases are spread by different means. It’s just it has been found that recyclable shopping bags are also a vector. Your deflection is full of straw.
I use cloth bags because I don’t like plastic–I’ve had quite a few items tearing holes in plastic bags and thus ruined or falling through without me noticing and lost. But I drop the cloth bags once a week into a washer, in contrast to a typical hippies’ modus operandi.
Report Post »TrueSoundsOfLiberty
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 3:07amNow, now. Nobody likes hippies, that‘s a well established fact and I’m sure that’s one thing we can all agree on. I would like to think that a bill to ban patchouli would pass both houses quickly and efficiently.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 9:57am“Needless to say, this most recent discovery will probably reignite arguments over the safety of reusable bags and possibly stymie activists’ attempts to ban stores from” I guess this would be true for the caliber of individuals who wouldn’t understand the myriad of objects they have caught a cold or flu from. Oh and of course those wouldn’t think you should was a reusable shopping bag. Really lame attempt to spark a idiotic debate about our overwhelming need to reduce the amount of garbage. Take the time to educate yourself about the huge garbage areas in the oceans of the world. Rather pitiful.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 10:14amBrilliant post Rook
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 4:37pmJRook
Garbage can be burned for garbage generation. The rest can be recycled. I recycle 50% of the stuff in my household now. HeII, even eggshells are recycled in America. It was in Business Week in the section “Developments to Watch”. It saved private companies a lot of money. Instead of a cost that stuff is no longer a waste but a product.
If anything is in the ocean, it is someone else’s fault. there are only 100 or so U.S. flagged merchant ships. U.S. Navy ships shred their refuse so turtles or anything else do not become entangled in it. They also don’t dump near shore. They save it 7 dispose of on land
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 11:56pmAhh yes, reusable green bags, you can feel good about yourself, while you are projectile vomiting , and having bloody diarrhea ……..like all this green crap, more stupidity, like your Prius, with its toxic lithium battery………joke !
Report Post »Doctor Nordo
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 12:16amYeah, man! Reusable stuff is the devil! I think we should ditch the stupid fad of reusable clothing in lieu of disposable clothing too! Cause I mean, like, they also can get you sick if you never wash them, right?
Seriously though, people wash their dishes because it’s unhygienic to reuse dirty stuff. Why should bags that are used to hold food be any different? Uncovered produce or leaky meat or just plain funk can allow for pathogens to flourish.
Report Post »cuinsong
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 11:55pmI got to wonder, what were they all doing with the bag? Was it a trash bag? Just wondering why they were touching the same bag that much?
Report Post »Teabunny
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 11:46pmprayers for the kids. Hope they feel better.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 11:45pmSo “green” it grows viri.
Report Post »One of the strong
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 11:40pmYes yes, ban all the one time use bags all you greeners, so we can further eradicate the human race with your ignorance………….
Report Post »Mikev5
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 11:39pmPaper bags suck why they eat up trees yes but they also don’t have handles and can absorb fluids and can get contaminated like cloth.
Plastic is great it’s clean it has handles and they are made to decompose in a few years but they started making them so thin and small they now rip so easy and you need two for the one stronger ones they used to make and they are usable for trash bags.
Those cloth ones are easy to get contaminated need to be cleaned all the time and the biggest problem easy to forget at home half the time a pain in the azz.
Plastic is still the best in my opinion. Also those plastic ones are easy to pack in rolls and packs making them easy to ship and use than paper that is bulky and can’t be put in rolls or self-disposing packs.
I bet the paper ones cost way more than the plastic ones saving on the cost of food in the store.
Report Post »Quitlyingtome
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:56amPlastic ones are fine, but
PAPER MAKES THE BEST CAT TOYS!
Report Post »cloudmcrain
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 11:27pmI don’t know who these scientists are, of who wrote this article, but it’s common knowledge among all hospitals, airlines and cruise ships that the norovirus can be picked up from surfaces quite a long time after a vomit incident. This knowledge has been around a LONG time before this incident. Either the writer of this article is speculating and not doing their homework, or the scientists should retire and pickup another profession that requires less attention to the real world around them… Perhaps they can take up a seat in congress as a democrat.
Scientists! Take a cruise and lick the banisters, railings, door handles and other surfaces. Perhaps you will get a clue along with a bit of the norovirus.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 11:16pmAnother Liberal… Unintended Consequence… from Minds that do not contemplate Future Results!
Report Post »IndyGuy
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 11:28pm“Scientists Link Stomach Flu Outbreak to Reusable Shopping Bag”.
Report Post »Gee….Didn’t see that coming………IDIOTS…
Rayford
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 11:07pmI happen to live in the bastion of complete and utter moronic legislation. I’ll let you figure out where.
The plastic bags are a mess as they fly all over because of people that dump their garbage on the side of the road and the trash trucks that drive all over uncovered. The homes that are close to the landfill have trees and fences full of them.
The plastic bags suck, they cant hold 2 cans of food or they rip. So where did they become better than paper bags? Never. They are cheaper, yes. But as all of us know around here, we will be charged 10 cents a bag soon.
So besides the free trash bags that I take advantage of too, theres not much use to them. So we are having to resort to reuseable bags, that, like said above, carry pathogens from leaky products.
How about the fact that all these bags are in different people’s homes, sanitation unknown. Maybe their cat wipes their butt on the bag, or they use one for their bathroom trash and forget which is which. Then toss in a medley of flu germs, colds, throat viruses, etc and see it all on the little counter the bag gets set on in the store. Then you put your bag there and get the flu and the cats ass germs to take home.
I am a bit germophobic so this reuseble bag thing doesnt work well with me. I think I will grow more of my own food, well, until that is illegal.
Report Post »Susie
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:59pmThis gives a whole new meaning to the term “green”.
Report Post »South Philly Boy
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:51pmNutter wanted to BAN Plastic Bags in Philly and now he DOESN’T WANT THEM for RECYCLING
DUMB NUTTER
Report Post »jzs
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 11:20pmWell, besides being an ignorant political argument (don’t recycle!), this overall is pretty stupid. I guess you’ll jump on any idiot thing you read to not recycle, and believe the world is better off if we just create trash and dump in somewhere. This study was probably paid for by someone who makes one use plastic bags.
If you have ever been a parent, or a human being of any kind, you know that stomach flu spreads like wildfire in public schools, not because all the kids are recycling their Spider Man lunchboxes – which they are, they use them every day – but from contact with other kids. That particular virus spreads from person to person easily and quickly.
Hey, but if you own stock in landfills, embrace the idea that recycling is bad!
Maybe the point of the study is that you should wash anything you put food in. Okay, fine, I’ll agree with that.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 1:40amHey JZS,
Don’t birth control pills come in plastic, one time use containers?
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 1:44amJZS,
If you wash that bag in between every shopping trip, you will pumping evil phosphates in to my drinking water. Do they still use phosphates? Have not heard that word in a while. Oh well, I’m sure there is something nasty in that detergent.
Just keep using that dirty bag, enjoy your illness, and leave my drinking water alone.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 2:12amJZS,
I own stock in landfills, and the companies that make the plastic bags.
Pretty shrewd….huh?
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 4:31amJZS, We do recycle. We take those plastic bags from various stores and use them as free trash bags since our garbage pick up requires that everything be be in tied bags. We also, well, the wife by her choice picks up the dog’s pooh in them for some reason. We live in a rural area and the dog usually gets walked in the woods. The wife has tried those cloth bags but they tend to fall apart after only a very few washings. If I chose to use those “green” bags I would have to buy even more plastic trash bags, as well even more zip locks for the wife to pick up dog pooh. Along with having to wash and maintain a couple of dozen of those cloth bags. BTW, just what do you actually do? Maybe you can enlighten us as how to be more efficient in a real world way. BTW, I do try to recycle other day to day items as I can. I have no desire to constantly fill land fills with so much stuff that they have to be constantly relocated. But, I fail to see so much of this arrogant crap that just becomes another club to swing at conservatives.
Report Post »Johnny Cocheroo
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 9:18amNice counterargument RJJING,
I use canvas bags when I go shopping in combination with plastic and paper. I take the plastic bags with me when walking the dogs, I use the paper bags for ripening my cantaloupes and recycling days.
All things in moderation.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 10:43amJZS,
Most like you are hypocrites simply bent on control through social regulation.
I live a life where I grow a lot of my own food, “recycle” heirloom seeds, and water. We burn some of our garbage and then recycle the ashes in the field to neutralize the soil PH, paper gets used for the worm farm. The biological stuff goes in the compost pile which goes into the fields. NONE of it required a 4 ton truck burning fuel and sitting still more than actually going somewhere, to come get the recycled materials!!!!
We don’t drive excessively and I fill up my flex-fuel SUV once every 6 weeks on average (<5 gal wk), I just don’t need to go anywhere, plenty to do here. I use old milk jugs for emergency water storage and growing seedlings. We don’t water our lawn in the middle of droughts, or have automatic sprinklers that go off even when it is pouring rain and don’t use weed killers which run off into rivers and lakes. We have more trees “recycling” CO2 on our property than most people have in their entire gated community. We do this and much more not out of some sense of guilt but because it is practical.
AND YET……..
Somehow because we don’t pay to “recycle” our pop cans, use plastic bags for the few groceries we do buy (which by the way are also re-used) and drive an SUV we are “inconsiderate” to our children. Why?
Because you say so? Who is living an “unsustainable” lifestyle?
Hypocrits.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 1:08pmjzs
You never disapoint. You are always obstreperous, dogmatic & wrong.
- You never consider that washing a reusable bag may cost more than making a hundred plastic biodegradable bags.
- You never consider plastic bags make excellent liners for waste baskets so you do not have to wash them as often.
- You never consider that in some places they burn garbage for energy. Other places have specifically design diesel engines that run off of gas given off by decomposing trash in garbage dump.
Some of us have been conserving since before the 1st Earth Day just because we want to spend the resources on other things vacation, retirement or education. We conserve on water, electricity so that we can afford education on our own instead of whining to a politician like a liberal.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 1:19pmDisposable biodegradable plastic bags come in handy when you put them in garbage cans.
Whenever there are high winds & its’ garbage day it is much easier to pick up the mess if most or all the garbage was in plastic garbage bags that were tied using the handles before putting them in the garbage can. Maybe we could make little tidbits like this into a college course & have JZS enroll. It would be about his speed. LOL!
Report Post »jzs
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 2:18pmWalkabout, plastic bags are not biodegradable. Sorry. Microbes don’t eat polyethylene. To some degree they are photodegradable, but they get covered up in a landfill and basically never go away.
Good to hear other people recycle though.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 4:40pmJZS
I remember hearing about it. Microbes eat anything. They even eat rocket fuel.
Plastic bags can be made “Oxo-degradable” by being manufactured from a normal plastic polymer (i.e. polyethylene) with an additive which causes fragmentation of the polymer (polyethylene) due to oxidation of metal additives (often cobalt).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodegradable_Bags
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:29pmI’ve heard for a long time that so-called “reusable” grocery bags were a horrible idea. You put frozen meat from the butcher in there one time and unless you expend energy, hot water, and laundry chemicals to clean it out, that clothe bag is contaminated with microbes from the thawing meat for ever.
In order to be sanitary and safe, the clothe bags would have to be laundered after every trip, which makes them so very, very far from paper or plastic disposable bags on the conservation of resources front. Paper bags are designed to be recycled. Plastic bags are designed to degrade away to nothing. Clothe bags are designed to make the user feel warm and fuzzy inside about their carbon footprint.
Just remember, the next time you’re at the grocery store and you see someone about to use a reusable clothe grocery bag, ask them “Paper, plastic, or pathogens?”
Report Post »CatB
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 11:02pmI was speaking with a ****** at Publix .. he said people bring in disgusting reusables .. funny thing is the store sells them that are NOT washable .. they used to sell canvas that could be washed . but I think they got too expensive. I use cooler bags to take my groceries home (Florida) but I do not use them without a plastic grocery bag from the store holding my groceries … they are very thin and I recycle them.. But remember the person in front of you may have had a disgusting reusable in front of you .. and that was on the counter before your groceries!
Report Post »JediKnight
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 11:33pmReplace the word “Pathogens” with “Flu” and you’ll get their attention. It may not be as accurate, but they’re more likely to understand that word over Pathogens.
Report Post »StormyStitch
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 3:37pm“Termites, Plastic, or Flu” would be more appropriate. We recently changed pest control companies and were told paper bags can have termites or termite eggs.
I typically use re-useable bags because they’re easier to carry, hold more items, and save you 5 cents each at Target. They’re getting thrown in the washer today with Clorox after reading this article. For non-washable bags like collapsible ice chests, I use Clorox wipes after each use.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:23pmLike everything else “green” these “Eco-friendly” bags are a farce. You go to the grocery store and bring home 10 bags of food and purchased a week’s supply of small garbage bags to line your bathroom cans.
Now you have to wash the “green” bags (1/2 load) and dry the bags. Most people won’t be hanging 10 bags to drip dry in the middle of their laundry room, they’ll throw them in the dryer.
This vs. go to the store and bring home a week’s supply of bathroom sized garbage bags, AKA plastic grocery bags.
What have you accomplished other than boosting the economies of the foreign countries who sew up the bags for slave wages, which then need to be shipped over here on “gas guzzling” boats and assuaging some feeling of manufactured guilt?
Report Post »Hephzibah
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:21pmWhy again did they replace paper bags with those flimsy plastic things anyway? Paper bags are a renewable resource, they are recyclable, and they don’t carry flu germs. They don’t fly around the highways, land on your windshield, end up on dolphins’ noses, or stay in landfills forever. I’ll take paper, please.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 1:23pmDepending on the raw material that you male the plastic from it can be made biodegradable. Plastic also doesn’t disintegrate in the rain. True that doesn’t happen often but it does happen.
Plastic can be made out corn starch & we know that corn is a renewable resource.
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:19pmTake that Environmental Wackos!!! Just Think! Commiefornia is banning store provided plastic bags!
Report Post »Cosmos102
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:16pmThere are other reasons for washing your reusable grocery bags, like the meat and poultry you carry in them that leak fluids…or that leaky carton of milk. All the food you put in it can leave bacteria behind as well.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:16pmThis is about at funny as the chemical reaction in sun block that is more potent than sun light that causes carcinoma. Another liberal ‘good intention’ gone awry.
Report Post »The_Postal
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:15pmYep. That’s way better than a brown paper bag or plastic. Saving the Earth by creating better viruses to harm mankind. Sounds about right.
Report Post »valerie68
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:15pmI knew it! That is the number 1 reason why I won’t use reusable bags. Nice to see it confirmed. But honestly though, it’s just common sense.
Report Post »skippy6
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:12pmNo thank you I already have to much laundry to do, plastic please….
Report Post »Texan Man
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:11pmAs the little bully on the Simpsons loves to yell, “Haaaa Ha!!”
Use disposable plastic.
Report Post »skippy6
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:19pmNelson……
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:08pmAnd the citizens of Los Angeles will only be able to use these reusable bags soon when the paper/plastic ban goes into effect. Better stock up on your Pepto peoples of LA.
Report Post »Silversmith
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:05pmyeah baby GO GREEN ! ! ! !
literally
Silversmith
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:18pmThey actually do turn a bit green when getting that sick.
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