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See Hawaii‘s Official Form Verifying They Have Obama’s Birth Certificate

Well, that’s one bit of suspicion brought low. KYFI has reproduced Hawaii’s “Verification of birth certificate” form in full on their website, and we are able to bring you the following image of the much-dramatized document.

(Related: Hawaii: We‘ve Officially Verified Obama’s Birth Certificate for AZ Sec. of State)

Hawaiis Form Verifying the Existence of Barack Obamas Birth Certificate Now Viewable OnlineAlvon T. Onaka is listed as the State Registrar for Hawaii. The date issued is May 22, 2012.

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  • apojoe69
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:44pm

    Good! Since we now know its there why not just show it to us.

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    • Independent4233
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:54am

      There’s so much data being purposely hidden by this president, including ALL his school grades, etc., and there’s so many lies told by the leftist media and the president himself who is a liar, such secrecy invites doubts and speculation as to why anybody would NEED to be reluctant to openly reveal his past.

      There is NO DOUBT that his books were written by someone else, which are, in themselves, enough of a lie to cause people to openly wonder if anything about him is true.

      If he gets in for a second term, there is NO DOUBT that we will be embroiled in civil strife of great proportions.

      If Romney is elected, we will still disintegrate as a nation, but at a slower pace. We will be on a slower road to hell…..however, we will not have to worry about him encouraging and arming black militants in order to fight us, as this president will do in his second term…..and I’m not exaggerating.

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    • rickc34
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 10:59am

      Anyone could type this form up. What about the original birth certificate? Because it does not exist. This guy appeared out of nowhere. How about school pictures or people that knew him in school.

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    • copatriots
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 11:02am

      GATES,

      0bama is out of his league when dealing with just about anyone. Liberals are starting to turn on him publicly. Without a doubt, there is a reason for it. The puppet masters surely have back-up plans.

      Meanwhile, the best irony for 0bama is that history won’t be kind. Have you seen this?

      http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/06/08/what-do-historians-really-think-obama/

      And….ewwwwww @ the thought of Hill & Bill sleeping together…..but Hill would even do that for the chance to be president.

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    • MittensKittens
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 11:34am

      And we should believe this piece of paper why???

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    • 100 Million Patriots Standing
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 11:46am

      Obama birth announcements also fake;
      Very good research on here,
      http://connect.freedomworks.org/node/79901/discussions/807115

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    • CrawfishFestival2
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 12:07pm

      CoPatriots and everybody:

      Enjoyed the article- n the link = Thank YOU!

      It was written by Ed Klein – whose book is now #1 on the NY Times Best sellers’ List.

      Edward Klein is the former editor in chief of The New York Times Magazine. His latest book is “The Amateur: Barack Obama in the White House.” (Regnery 2012)

      Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/06/08/what-do-historians-really-think-obama/#ixzz1xJMj5tvQ

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    • Sue Dohnim
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 12:38pm

      The Dems and the GOP want to bury this because it can’t be proved… the original BC has been sealed…

      There is a provision in Hawaiian law which provides for a law enforcement agency to have an original BC sealed and an altered one issued with altered or even fake information.

      IMO, though not proof, here is the theory, It all fits,,, the evidence and actions of Obama…

      If Obama was born in Kenya, his grandmother claimed, in Hawaii an out of hospital birth to get an Hawaii BC. Now Obama claimed through his life a Kenyan birth. So, when pressured to produce his BC, there was info on the original that indicated this possibility, So, a law enforcement agency (Eric Holder) could go to Hawaii and ask that his original be sealed and a new one issued, ALL LEGAL, the one he presented recently in the media was issued by Hawaii but the information differs form the original. In effect he has 2 BCs on file in Hawaii, the original and a legally obtained altered one.

      It s legal and yes just that simple…

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    • WEBWITHDEB
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 3:09pm

      RGFROMTEXAS, so under such analysis a child born to illegal immigrant parents here in the U.S. is eligible to be president of the U.S.? IS THIS ANY OF YOUR PEOPLE’S UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT IS YOU HAVE LEARNED IN YOUR GOVERNMENT STUDIES????

      Citizen parents means that a child’s parents were citizens (either native born or naturalized) prior to their child being born. Being a citizen is NOT THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENT for president according to our Constitution. Being BORN TO CITIZEN PARENTS is (once the candidates started being born AFTER the ratification of the Constitution, hence at least 35 years beyond ratification). None of you came about by ONE parent, thereby BOTH are subject to being citizens, so that naturally a child born to them IS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

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    • JoeBtfsplk
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 8:44pm

      Signed a few weeks ago? Where’s the original?

      How conveniently prompt?!?!

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    • MCDAVE
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 2:41am

      We all know the Truth…This is to little to late.and is another attempt at fraud..

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    • Captain Crunch
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 3:06am

      Just throw the dog another bone!

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    • Susan
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 10:24am

      The governor there has said he personally looked and it wasn’t there. This letter means nothing, as we all know, politicians have a price, and Obama seems to have found that price.

      I‘m not saying he wasn’t born there, I am saying I honestly can’t say where he was born. Of course IF he were born there, he still can’t legally be president with his father shown on this so called birth certificate and not being American.

      It isn’t rocket science, the man holding the title of president is a born liar. Honestly, I can’t point to one statement that has come out of his mouth as being a truthful statement.

      Ok, I think I remember one. When he was talking about refusing surgery for his mothers mother. He decided to let her lay in pain until she died instead of allowing hip surgery. Yes, he allowed her to be on pain pills, but I can tell you first hand after fighting for my life, after a couple of doses pain pills, I was on pain shots in the hospital…they don’t stop the pain, you simply have to find away to live with it.

      Well, you could chose to be addicted, taking higher and higher doses until you over dose and die!

      Karma baby, hes taught his daughters that at a certain age its best to let him lay in pain and die instead of having surgery. Hes also taught them that lying is moral. How would you like two teenage girls raised like that?

      I’ve often wondered if Obama needed her to die, because of what truths she knew….

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    • Laken
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 11:31am

      http://www.americansforsheriffjoe.com/index.php/

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    • Laken
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 11:34am

      http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/

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    • Laken
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 11:39am

      Please share this link with others…

      http://www.wnd.com/wnd_petition/petition-urging-congress-to-investigate-obamas-eligibility/

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    • ICEDRAGONNITE
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 1:42pm

      Cause it’s a forgery. They just hope we go away.

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    • G-WHIZ
      Posted on June 11, 2012 at 11:06am

      The date issued should be in 1961. Why does it take 51yrs to geta birth certificate?? Where is the copy from the microfiche? Where is the aplication for SS#? There is more than one…they are for dead-people…HE is still alive. His father NEVER was a USA-citizen. HE isn’t even a [regular USA Citizen]. HE was “brought-in” as a child-already-born-overseas…NOT even born here!

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  • eyestoseeearstohear
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:42pm

    OH….they really need to just give this worthless piece of CRAP PAPER, a rest!

    The darn thing DOESN’T EVEN HAVE A D.O.B. on it – BUUUUTTTTTT…….
    THAT’S NOT THE ISSUE….

    THE ISSUE IS THAT HE IS “ NOT ELIGIBLE” TO BE POTUS.
    Why? FATHER: KENYAN ( Not a US Citizen)

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    • weisja4
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:50pm

      Wrong, Being born in this country makes you a citizen, that is a principal called Birthright Citizenship and is established in the 14th amendment:

      “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

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    • KAS_Wolf
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:53pm

      Not true Weis – because his father was a British citizen, he had allegiance to another country. He doesn’t confer citizenship.

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    • weisja4
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:56pm

      Yes it does, it doesn’t matter what his father does, the 14th amendment specifically grants citizenship to any person born in this country.

       
    • Psychosis
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:57pm

      @ WEISJA

      let me correct the above poster

      what he meant to say was DO TO HIS FATHER NOT BEING A CITIZEN AT THE TIME OF OBAMA’S BIRTH H E IS N O T ELIGIBLE AS HE IS NOT A

      NATURAL BORN CITIZEN which is required as per the constitution …. natural born citizen is a child born of TWO CITIZEN PARENTS

      obama is merely a citizen , and can hold no office higher than congress PERIOD

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    • gsplgtr
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:58pm

      weis…wrong again. Native Americans born here are not considered citizens of the USA according to the 14th Amendment because they had no allegiance to the country.

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    • KAS_Wolf
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 7:05pm

      Thank you psychosis. That’s what I was trying to convey.

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    • Blazebanned
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 7:07pm

      @weisj4a aka encinom
      Citizenship is not the issue,screw the made up[ piece of paper that says he was born here,it means nothing.What does mean something is the FACT his daddy wasnt a US citizen,which makes him totally ineligible, as eyes stated,moron.For those who have not noticed,the birth certificate “issue” is nothing more than an intended distraction from the fact that dear old commie dad wasnt a US citizen,and that congress,has not now nor ever acted on that fact, much less mention it,not one person in congress…..

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 7:09pm

      Every thing but the real thing. We are right and time has proved the common man is most of the time right. All the experts are always wrong because they have an agenda. FOOLS ALL

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    • PoliticalSmackdown {Subscribe & Friend me on YouTube}
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 7:10pm

      actually he is 100% correct birthright and natural born are different. his father was not American he is not Eligible Besides if this was legit simply put the book on the table and let the people see it! nobody trusts anything they say any more . they lie about Everything! until i see it that lie!

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    • rockinroadie99
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 7:12pm

      What the point here is Barack Obama (or Barry Sorteoro) not being a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, which is one of the 3 requirements the founders set for being eligible to be POTUS. He is not, due to the fact that his father was not nor was he ever a US citizen. With that being said, neither is Mitt Romney. His father was born in Mexico. This is like a nightmare and it just keeps getting worse.

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    • handsmcml
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 7:15pm

      Yes, and no to weisja4: {Wrong, Being born in this country makes you a citizen, that is a principal called Birthright Citizenship and is established in the 14th amendment: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”} BHO can be called a US Citizen. BHO cannot be called a “Natural Born Citizen” because his father, being a citizen of the UK, gave him dual citizenship in both the US and UK. When Kenya was granted its independence from the UK, BHO became a citizen of Kenya. When BHO was adopted by his mother’s husband, he became a citizen of Indonesia. The constitution was written in such a way that the President must never have conflicting interests or allegiances. BHO is not a Natural Born Citizen, as the constitution requires.

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    • We are Americans
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 7:41pm

      Then the SCOTUS and John Roberts should be
      tried for treason for letting him be president.
      You people scare me. I wish you all would move to
      another country. No wonder the world laughs at us.
      America is now a bunch of uneducated conspiracy
      theory freaks. Let it go. It’s embarrassing.

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    • eyestoseeearstohear
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 7:49pm

      @ WEISJA4
      I strongly recommend you scroll down to PSYCHOSIS post for a FIRST CLASS
      EXPLANATION OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN CITIZEN, NATURAL BORN
      CITIZEN AND NATURALIZED CITIZEN.

      @ PSYCHOSIS
      Excellent post, brother :)

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    • freedomnetworker
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 7:55pm

      point is, he wasnt born in this country.:::

      Obama’s campaign press secretary Bill Burton advised reporters that Obama visited Pakistan for “about three weeks” in 1981, after visiting his mother in Indonesia. He traveled with a muslim college friend from Karachi, Pakistan. On the same trip, he also traveled to Hyderabad, India.

      It was illegal for US travelers to go to Pakistan in 1981, and it is assumed that since Obama was visiting his mother in Indonesia that he was able to obtain a visa from Indonesia to travel to Pakistan, under his prior name as a registered Indonesia citizen – Barry Soetoro. His Pakistani college roommates who he traveled with were muslim. Karachi, Pakistan and Hyderabad, India are predominately muslim. His college roommates were said to be wealthy, so perhaps he just went to have a good time and party, and he could blend into the muslim society because that’s was his upbringing from an early age.

      His mother, Ann Dunham, worked and lived as a consultant to the Asian Development Bank (ADB), in Gujranwalla, Pakistan from 1987 to 1992. During this time, Obama visited his mother in Pakistan staying for a month or more at a time at the Hilton International Hotel (now Avari Hotel), Lahore, where she resided. She travelled daily from Lahore to Gujranwalla, Pakistan. Lahore is the second largest city in Pakistan, after Karachi, and is a center for muslim heritage.

      This is a question that remains unanswered, and there is much speculation about t

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    • donh2
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 8:02pm

      Just another effigy we are supposed to accept in place of the real thing.

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    • WatchingAmericaDie
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 8:09pm

      Whether or not Obama has a right to be POTUS is something we may never know. What we do know though is that he is a piece of garbage and the country will be much better off without him. Whatever you do, make sure Obama does not get re-elected.

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    • Elena2010
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 8:41pm

      Rcok — was George Romney a naturalized US citizen at the time of Mitt’s birth? If so, he is considered a “natural born citizen.”

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    • nonofmybiznez
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 8:43pm

      That would only apply if you were born outside the U.S.

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    • iamhungry
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 8:49pm

      If Obama isn’t eligible because his father was born in Kenya then:

      Romney isn’t eligible because his father was born in Mexico.
      Santorum wasn’t eligible because his father was born in Italy.
      Jindal wouldn’t be eligible because his parents were born in India.
      Rubio wouldn’t be eligible because his parents were born in Cuba.

      I don’t hear any complaints about the four Republicans eligibility…

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    • Clorox
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 9:29pm

      freedomnetworker
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 7:55pm
      point is, he wasnt born in this country. Obama’s campaign press secretary Bill Burton advised reporters that Obama visited Pakistan for “about three weeks” in 1981, after visiting his mother in Indonesia. He traveled with a muslim college friend from Karachi, Pakistan. On the same trip, he also traveled to Hyderabad, India.

      Speaking of 1981, I wonder who was he married to back then?
      I thought he married M0 in 1992

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    • WEBWITHDEB
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 9:43pm

      A “natural born” citizen is a child whose both parents are citizens at the time of their child’s birth. Those parents may be either native-born citizens or naturalized citizens: THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT that those parents be “natural born” in order that their child be conferred such citizenship.

      I am fairly certain Romney‘s father was a citizen at the time of Willard’s birth. Rubio, I do not believe meets the natural born requirement and I am just waiting for the Republican Establishment to pick him as the running mate and thus have this issue blow up in their faces when Obama releases yet another ‘real’ birth certificate which reveals his biological father to be a citizen, he thus winning the Constitutional debate. But, just as with everything else Constitutional, he will “forgive” Rubio’s ineligibility and thus claim a precedent (SANS THE CORRECT method of changing the Constitution — by Amendment only) for the new “legalized” definition of “natural born citizen” to now have the same meaning as “native born” citizen, setting the course for an illegal immigrant’s child born in this country to be eligible for U.S. President.

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 10:02pm

      Weis-
      He is a citizen, but not a natural born citizen. The status requires both PARENTS to be citizens of the US. It was made that way to ensure other nations could not unduly influence US leadership through immigration scams. And this piece of paper says the BC was verified as the one they have on file, which was admitted by Obama’s own lawyer to be a forgery

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    • HowardSternIsABigot
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 10:05pm

      Despite all good points made above, I think the most troublesome thing is a pResident that could spare the nations doubters all of this with a single stroke of his pen. Just release the form, sooo simple, but nooooo, whats his game? Only a lap dog sold out media can be so dull witted to not even wonder why Obama goes to so much expense to hide what he claims is right there in Hawaii’s vaults. Obama is a wicked and perverse person to cause so much grief over absolutely nothing. You might say its just plain mean to subject the country to these doubts. I mean it is right there to see, once and for all the truth. hmmmmm why oh why obama?

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    • HowardSternIsABigot
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 10:08pm

      IAMHUNGRY: you must be deaf to not hear complaints and questions about the ones mentioned. They all ahve been questioned about it and I know at least some have provided requested docs. That useless old progressive McCain was investigated by congress fully and declared eligible. Was it the republicans that demanded that?

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 10:10pm

      Okay you Birther idiots. The Constitution DOES NOT DEFINE THE TERM NATURAL BORN CITIZEN prior to the 14th Amendment. The US Supreme Court, in the 1898 Wong opinion astablishes that Citizenship is confered by the location of birth.

      The arguements you are making have ZERO basis in American law. The fact that you are still arguning this BS only proves the racist roots of Birtherism.

       
    • Dave In Arizona
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 10:21pm

      I believe the citizenship of the child’s parents is not relevant; rightly or wrongly, as long as the child is born in the USA the child is a US citizen. That’s why so many illegal aliens want to have their kids in the states: automatic citizenship.

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    • Clorox
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 10:24pm

      encinom
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 10:10pm
      Okay you Birther idiots.

      You seem smart, who was Ob0 married to in 1981, I’m not being a smartass, I just want to know.
      Thanks in advance

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    • Spqr1
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 10:28pm

      A couple of presidents have had one foreign born parent. Your questions were put to rest over century ago. You should have heard about that by know.

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    • WEBWITHDEB
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 10:30pm

      Encimon- where is the term “natural born citizen” found in the 14th Amendment?

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    • 1947
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 10:31pm

      It‘s taken FOUR years and it’s still a LIE……………….

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    • WEBWITHDEB
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 10:35pm

      And, Encimon, if you actually read the whole opinion, you would know how your “Wong” interpretation, not that minutia discussion you are trying to rely on, specifically stated it was not in their purview to define “natural born” citizen, as the case in point was not related to presidential eligibility, and, in fact, cited multiple cases wherein people born in the U.S. were consistently referred to as “native born”, and thus, citizens, per the 14th Amendment.

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    • WEBWITHDEB
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 10:47pm

      SPRQ, such as?? If they were made citizens by the ratification of the Constitution, then the “natural born” requirement was not in effect. If you are speaking about the vice-president who became president after the assassination of Garfield? Arthur’s “natural born” status was shaky also, and he opted not to run for president after serving out Garfield’s term, thus sidestepping the issue.

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 11:14pm

      @Webwithdeb,

      No were in the Constitution is Natural Born Citizen defined you racist twit. All the case law clearly establishes the fact that citizenship is conferred by place of birth. U.S. acknowledges only two types of citizenship, Natural Born (or somethime refered to as Native) or Naturalized, not other type. Actually, the evidence of the rank racism of your side is that you are mimicing the arguments used by the counsel for the State in Plessy v. Fureguson to deny the rights of recently freed slaves.

       
    • ScarletRose
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 11:49pm

      Amen!

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    • psage7
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 11:54pm

      weisja4,

      Please go reread the 14th Amendment. IF HE WAS NOT BORN HERE OR Born to American parents then he does not meet the minimum requirements to be President. They have never released the actual birth certificate. Only copies.

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    • WEBWITHDEB
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 12:01am

      Encimon- The Constitution per the 14th Amendment, yes, defines citizenship as native born (born in the U.S.), or naturalized. The eligibility for presidency in NOT MERELY citizenship — which is one of the qualifications is for Senator and Representatives. However, for President and Vice-President, one needs to be not “just” a citizen, but a natural born citizen. Since this term is not legally defined in any federal authority, we need to look to natural law to define “natural born”. Pray tell, how were you “naturally born”?

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    • Clorox
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 12:14am

      Chirp Chirp Chirp Chirp Chirp

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    • proliance
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 12:14am

      Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

      Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

      Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States,

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    • Obama_Sham
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 12:17am

      “Pray tell, how were you “naturally born”?”

      test tube…

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    • subic
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 12:21am

      hahahahahahaha, this is hilarious.

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    • Patrick Henry II
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 12:38am

      Sounds like his bio-daddy is Frank Marshal Davis. And looks like it too. But, he was a citizen of Indonesia. That does disqualify him from POTUS. However just moving the paperwork will take longer that January 20th. He’ll be gone anyway. Could help on repealling things though. Just declare them invalid do to lack of presidential signature.

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    • rickc34
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 12:42am

      Right on.

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    • hillbillyinny
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 12:53am

      Not only what others have pointed out, BUT, do you see the initials to the right and slightly below the signature of Alvin T. Onaka? Those initials indicate that someone OTHER THAN ALVIN T. ONAKA signed this letter, possibly a secretary or soneone else “verifying for” Mr Onaka.

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    • armyofnibiru
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 12:57am

      i being born at yale new haven hospitol in 1963 could have until 2009 got a certifacate of live birth from hawaii.this is all a farce.proove me wrong obamby and crew.open the records .give me proof your not a traitor.

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    • Soul Leister
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 1:04am

      Obama’s father was a Kenyan (in 1961, under the protection of Great Britian… the Nationality Act governing all british subjects states: “WHERE EVER HIS CHILDREN ARE BORN THEY ARE THE NATIONALITY OF THE FATHER”… thus the duece is Kenyan, at best he has dual citizenship and is “NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY”.

      In 2008 the US senate passed resolution 511 for McCain which states (feel free to look it up as I paraphrase)… “he is a natural born citizen because BOTH HIS PARENTS ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS”… it matters not where one is born but who their parents are… the left loves to avoid the facts.

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    • MR_ANDERSON
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 1:33am

      FACT: George Washington’s Mother and Father were not US citizens when he was born, so he set the precedent. Maybe President Obama is making an attempt at being George Washington.

      …Think about it.

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    • MeMadMax
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 2:38am

      This letter is so worthless, it might as well be written on a yellow post-it note……..

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    • Thevoice
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 2:48am

      Sorry …I …Still believe there is a bag of Commie bones buried somewhere …Why else would the Communist Party of America been supporting this community clown for the past twenty years….Yea I know am crazy …But you know what ..I can live with it …Any American would have to be a fool to vote for anyone Supported by Communists ….Yea and MSNBC has been over the last couple weeks been making fun of people like me labeling Obama a communist…But answer me this …Anyone asked Romney if he can reverse the national security risk coming in 2015 with regards to electricity…Obama has planted the final seeds needed by the Communists for our end …I’ll stick with my crazy belief…
      Obama has to go in November ..And this Romney better get a set of balls between now and then…In the end game come next January were past the tipping point …And I don’t want some weak kneed self gratifier, one world peace and love idiot….Just a man to say, hey this is going to hurt like hell but its the right thing to do…

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    • phil1765
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 3:09am

      MR_ANDERSON
      I guess you are trying to be cheeky with the George Washington comment, but you seem to have missed the fact there wasn’t a United States as we know it today when George was born in 1732. Come on, at least be relevant.

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    • chalkdust
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 3:13am

      Encinom
      Here is Webster’s Dictionaries definition of racism: “a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.”
      Stop butchering the English language. Words have specific meanings, not what you want it to be so you can insult someone. You have completely ruined the true meaning of the word and turned it into a cheap, meaningless insult when you can’t make a proper argument. When I see idiots like you call someone or an entire group of people racists, I immediately know you have trouble with critical thought. Or you’re dishonest. Stop butchering the English language!

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    • spikebu
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 4:37am

      Has anybody else noticed, the only troll comment was encinom in its conservative facade? This topic should be troll heaven! Tells me it’s another distraction. Look at the other hand.

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    • NCREPUB
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 4:40am

      The reason He does not want no one to see the original is that it probably states on it that he is white

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    • kryss187
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 4:42am

      The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term “natural born” citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship “by birth” or “at birth,” either by being born “in” the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship “at birth.” Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an “alien” required to go through the legal process of “naturalization” to become a U.S. citizen.

      His mother was a US Citizen, so he might be legal. however, if he were born abroad he would not have a birth certificate. he would have a Consular Report of Birth Abroad. And the FAQ states:

      If my child is born abroad, is my child a U.S. citizen?
      Your child may be a U.S. citizen if you meet the requirements of the Immigration and Nationality Act to transmit citizenship. Please consult our citizenship chart for a simplified version of these requirements.

      What are the requirements to transmit citizenship?
      If the child’s parents are both U.S. citizens, a foreign-born child would be a U.S. citizen if:

      at least one of the parents resided in the United States or a U.S. possession prior to the child’s birth; and,
      the child was born in wedlock.
      If one parent is not a U.S. citizen, the U.S. citizen parent m

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    • spikebu
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 4:55am

      I can’t understand how encinom manages to slur its words over the internet! It also bleeds into it’s monicne persona. I think your personalities are colliding. Is the common sense one gaining dominance?

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    • old white guy
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 6:06am

      ok. but . why not show a copy of the birth certificate? if they actually have one. i could make similar statements but would be unable to back up my statements.

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    • Gates
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 6:41am

      Here’s thought~

      As the Dem convention gets closer AND it becomes clear that Obama cannot win in the fall, Obama will be declared ineligible due to his citizenship status and Hillary will be the nominee.

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    • HKS
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 7:09am

      The truth always comes out eventually, Official lies with signatures will be subjected to extra scrutiny.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 8:13am

      MR_ANDERSON, I think that you should read the U.S. Constitution and in particular Article II, Section 1. It’s just a little over half way through the section but when the paragraph regarding the requirement for the place of birth to hold the office of the presidency you will eventually see the sentence that gives allowance for the first president. I am paraphrasing since I really feel that you need to read it for yourself and stop making things up to suit your desires. You are starting to sound like ENCINO_NAMBLA_MAN.

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    • TheFederalist
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 8:24am

      No, you are wrong Weis… Eyes… is right. Read the Law of Nations by Emmerich de Vattel. The Founders used Vattels papers on writing the Constitution deciding the qualifications of President of U.S.
      The definition of natural born at the time of writing the Constitution was both parents of a citizen must be natural born in the U.S. as well.
      Obama`s father is NOT.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 8:33am

      For the same reason Rubio can’t be president…..your parents have to be citizens, even naturalized, doesn’t matter. The founders knew you would have split allegience if one of your parents was still a citizen of another country. Look at Obama….he hates America and Brittain because his father was anti-imperialist. He even interfered with a Kenyan election.

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    • Bad Kitty
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 8:36am

      so my mom was from indoneasia and my dad was born in US and i was born in US too, SO IM NOT A US CITIZEN??????? i thought the 14 amendment said otherwise…

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    • RGFROMTEXAS
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 8:43am

      All Birthers, Please Read:

      The Constitution does not define the phrase natural-born citizen, and various opinions have been offered over time regarding its precise meaning. A 2011 Congressional Research Report Revealed:

      The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term “natural born” citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship “by birth” or “at birth,” either by being born “in” the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship “at birth.” Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an “alien” required to go through the legal process of “naturalization” to become a U.S. citizen.[1]

      Presdient Obama is eligible, end of story !!!

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    • copatriots
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 8:46am

      @ GATES,

      That is an interesting theory and would explain Bill’s recent “gaffes”. Hill’s already said she is retiring from Sec of State but she wants the title of the first female president more than life itself. I have said the progressives aren’t about to give up power now that they have it. Your guess is one way they could rally the Dems and possibly retain it. God help us.

      Once healthcare is overturned, 0bama will have been deemed to have done nothing so there won’t officially be much to overturn. It’s the behind the scenes stuff that frightens me.

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    • TAMPAGIRL
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:20am

      So if its correct that natural born citizen is the child of mother and father born in the USA. that would disqualify Marco Rubio for VP correct???????

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    • frogg
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:23am

      You are so wrong a parent not being a citizen has no bearing on qualifying to be President, only being a “Natural born Citizen counts. Let’s get off this and just vote the Bum out!

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    • Gates
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:31am

      copatriots

      Obama is now way out of his league when it comes to dealing the Clintons. Four years is forever in politics and Bill had a lot of time on his hands to get prepared. I‘ll bet the Clinton’s would do anything for another White House tour of duty. Even sleep with each other (Arggghhh)!!!!

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    • ValidFib
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 10:23am

      The 14th Amendment wasn’t about Presidency qualifications. The 14th Amendment was strickly addressing the slavery issue, everyone know’s that! If the qualifications for President were to be changed, it would require the same Amendment process and it has not. Don’t be an idiot.

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    • 100 Million Patriots Standing
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 11:42am

      @RGF

      “A congressional report” defining and dealing with a birther issue just prior to 2012-

      looks like cover to me

      just another suspicios co-incidence I suppose.

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    • 100 Million Patriots Standing
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 11:49am

      very good research here about the fake birth announcement in HI newspaper.
      connect.freedomworks.org/node/79901/discussions/807115

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    • 65Plus
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 5:19pm

      Weisja4: His Father being born in Kenya makes Obama Jr. a US Citizen????? What Constitution are you reading from?

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 7:48pm

      @WebwithDeb, who do you function without a workign brain your racist. Natural Law is nothing more than legal theories and moral opinions. In absence of a clear definition you look to the Common Law, to the Supreme Court cases that have defined only two types Naturalized and Natural Born. The racist tea baggers unhappy with a black man in the White House have invented a legal system just so they can argue they are not racist but following some made up law.

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    • Creg Maroney
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 11:58pm

      @weisja4

      Your opinion couldn’t be further from the truth. Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 shows a distinct difference between a “ citizen ” and a “natural born Citizen.” They are not one in the same.

      The 14 Amendment was adopted in 1868 well after Article 2. It does not have natural born Citizen even written in it. Furthermore, it doesn’t change the founding fathers natural born Citizen requirement of POTUS in anyway what-so-ever.

      To be a simple “ citizen ” and eligible for POTUS you would of had to have been “ ALIVE AT THE TIME OF THE ADOPTION OF THE CONSTITUTION ” and still alive today as required in Article 2 of the United States Constitution. Have you not read it? Since that is highly unlikely now you must be a natural born Citizen with sole allegiance to the United States. This is a safeguard to stop the son of Kim Jong Il or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or Hitler, if born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, from becoming President of the United States and in control of the most powerful army in the world.

      In the 14th Amendment “ SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF ” means not owing allegiance to anybody else.

      TO BELIEVE JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE BORN ON U.S. SOIL YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO RUN FOR THE PRESIDENCY OF THE MOST POWERFUL ARMY IN THE WORLD IS IGNORANTLY PREPOSTEROUS.

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    • Independent4233
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 11:56am

      ENCINOM
      “The racist tea baggers unhappy with a black man in the White House have invented a legal system just so they can argue they are not racist but following some made up law.”

      Yes, and that legal system is going to be amended to include “Natural born twinkies,” so you will feel included.

      Maybe then you’ll stop pretending to speak for blacks, because they only reason you do so now is because you perceive it somehow helps the homosexual agenda.

      I’m betting you live in an all-white area and would be terrified to live in a black neighborhood.

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    • WEBWITHDEB
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 5:52pm

      Oh, now I understand you, Encimon! You are someone who does not believe in natural law! That is how you are still able to live, even though, as evidenced by the inanity of your writing, you cannot draw in a natural breath of air to clear out your dead thoughts.

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    • G-WHIZ
      Posted on June 11, 2012 at 11:14am

      HE WAS “BROUGHT-IN” as a CHILD. Father was a Kenyan/Muslim. Both parents are not USA-citizens…just one!!

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  • Truthmonster
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:41pm

    Wow must be true! I mean it only took me 10 minutes to make the exact letter on my computer. We know Governor Abercrombie D. former cab driver and endorsed by Obama in the 2010 Hawaiian Race and family friend since the 60′s would never lie for him right? right? Just forget the Governor before Abercrombie said the birth certificate was not there and even Abercrombie said it wasn’t there until one day it just magically appeared. So many things with just don’t fit with Obama. I hope the sane people get out and vote this time!

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 8:08pm

      What I want to know is… from 1959, when Hawaii became a State, to 1962… what steps did the State to Find & Create Birth Records… what Security was used… who was in charge… what Legal Authority was followed… what Certification of Correctness existed… and have Errors ever been found in the system during that period of time?

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 10:13pm

      It’s been pointed out to me that the STAMPED number (usually in BLUE and large numbers) on his BC was out of order with others who were born around that same time…out of sequence.
      as in 1, 2, 3, 4 and then Obama brings one in that says 54… as if that comes between 2 and 3 (using examples here) I wrote earlier but wasn’t singed in I suppose, that I don’t care where he was born…he was not RAISED as an AMERICAN.
      He has NO CLUE about what AMERICA really is. HE has -0- respect for us, for FREEDOM for our history. He’s an arrogant basket case…and his basket is beginning to unravel. Now lets see if this posts. I agree with you LUKERW but then I usually do! Maybe he’ll be willing to unlock his college records and explain why he spent $ 2M hiding this “birth certificate”…yo George! We were born at night Dude, but not LAST NIGHT!!!

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    • MEANS2RESIST
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 1:10am

      the truth is coming soon, soetoro was not born here, he is a kenyan. I guess this considers me a birther. Everything he has signed will be null & void. The truth will set us free!

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  • The Knave
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:40pm

    Question…..it says Mother’s age as 18. Stanley Ann Dunham was born on Nov. 29, 1942. Barack Obama was born on Aug. 4, 1961. At time of birth, mother’s age was 19. Is the age listed on this form a typo?

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    • weisja4
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:48pm

      No, your math is wrong, she would turn 19 on November 29, 1961

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    • DoomsdayProphet
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:52pm

      now say the months aloud and repeat the phrase “my brain doesn’t function.”

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  • All Pro
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:39pm

    RJJinGadsden
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:19pm
    Interesting point, it also claims father is from Kenya all over again when it was not yet Kenya.

    Very good. You get a cookie!

    To anyone that believes this…..I have some ocean front property in Arizona I can sell you reeeeeeal cheap.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:44pm

      I already have the signs ready for Yuma and Gila Bend, saying “Ocean view when CA has THE BIG ONE.”

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    • Rob in Katy
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:49pm

      it wasn’t “Keyna” until 1963, maybe that is why they say he wasn’t born in Keyna with a straight face :)

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  • LeadNotFollow
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:39pm

    …
    He will not be out of the White House until Jan. 2013.
    He can still do a lot of damage to America, in those seven months.

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  • momtothreebeagles
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:36pm

    No SSN unfortunately. Connecticut is going to have to provide that. :)

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    • CatB
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 8:46pm

      How about … if he officially changed his name to Barry Soetoro and when was it changed back? .. Still way to many questions. What about not passing E-Verify ..

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  • TalonsPoint
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:35pm

    The government has told you that it has it. Now be good children. Believe it and go play outside.

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    • americanfirst
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:38pm

      It’s official.

      It’s a coup-de-etat!!

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    • lobster
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 9:21pm

      Where? On the 101 N bound in Encino? You need some smarts…

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    • RamonPreston
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 12:45am

      I wish they would use a softer paper for these reports. They are really bothering my hemorrhoids.

      Drink your fluoridated water, sheeple. Watch the movie “Trojan Horse.”

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  • RebelPatriot
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:34pm

    By the way, isn’t the hospital listed on this form different than the one Obama presented as his long form birth certificate?

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    • americanfirst
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:38pm

      answer: yes

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    • americanfirst
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:40pm

      answer: why…yes

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    • armyofnibiru
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 12:44am

      NO barry has never ever ;provided a birth certificate.he and company have provided many varying certificates of birth,which you and I could up till 2009 get for ourselves or any family member, from hawaii.because were alive and breathing.still its no BIRTH CERTIFICATE look at yours and you will see this.i beliave he (obamby) won’t give permission to see it, is because it dos’nt egxist.if it does not say birth certificate its not a birth certificate.!!!the republicans will be fully vetted on this issue .and still they will talk about obambys certificate of birth to shut everyone up you racists .now thats justice for trayvon who looks just like my son.

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    • countryfirst
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 7:46am

      How is it that a letter from a doctor that treated Abraham Lincoln could be found, but we need to accept a letter stating that an original BC exist. Where is this BC that a copy cannot be made. I can scan mine or even get a copy from the hospital.

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  • salvawhoray
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:32pm

    Shouldn’t his name be Barry?

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  • KAS_Wolf
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:31pm

    I’m sorry – did Kenya exist in 1961? Our (OLD – 1960 version) Encyclopedia has it listed as British East Africa Protectorate.

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:41pm

      Your atlas is correct, the British may have called it the East Africa Protectorate, but what did the locals call it? Did it occur to you that what the native Africans called it might have been more important to them than what the White minority, colonial power called their home? Great Britian started giving their colonies independence beginning with India in 1948. Ghana got independence in 1957.

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    • Rob in Katy
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:51pm

      Wiki, says 1963, since ALGORE invented it, I am going with 1963.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 8:47am

      DESERTROSE1960, They would have used the title of the country that was on Senior’s passport. Not a “What we want to call the country” title.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:00am

      DESERTROSE1960, Furthermore, Kenya is named after a mountain of the same name. It was given by the Kikuyu people who lived around present day Mt. Kenya which they referred to as Kirinyaga or Kerenyaga, meaning ‘mountain of whiteness’ because of its snow capped peak. It was the British and other English speaking people who could not pronounce the Kikuyu word and mispronounced it as Kenya. Much like the way journalist and English speaking people in general have perverted German cities to be Colon instead of Koln, Nuremberg instead of Nurnberg, and Munich which is actually Munchen. At least the Germany which is actually Deutschland maintained their actual names. Why did Kenya remain mispronounced, and misspelled?

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  • RebelPatriot
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:31pm

    Really, when the other side buses in illegal voters to Wisconsin we are supposed to believe a government wrker verifying the President’s birth certificate.

    There isn’t one or they would allow us to obtain a copy to view.

    Stop trying to lie to us, we don’t believe it and it just makes me more angry.

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    • weisja4
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:40pm

      First, there is absolutely no evidence that there was any such busing in WI, second, what would it take for you to believe that he was born in the US? are you suspicious of Mit? If not, why not?

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  • aChameleon
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:29pm

    On November 6th, we can all forget about this pos and his birth certificate. I’ve endured this long, what’s a few more months.

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    • Bad Kitty
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 8:48am

      then you have to wait until JAN 2013 for Obama out, and Romeny in.

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  • MBA
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:29pm

    Yep, and so do 20 million illegals.

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  • tharpdevenport
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:27pm

    OMG, they have a form! Wait until they see my form saying I own a smurf!

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  • bankerpapaw
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:27pm

    Ask to see his degree in Nuclear Physics. He’s got it in a desk drawer, somewhere.

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  • yathink
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:24pm

    Really? I mean really people. never mind….

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    • Hobo Boondocks
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:37pm

      All I can say is sufferin’ succotash. Obama and his team play the American people as though we were all Walt Disney’s Goofy character.

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  • LeadNotFollow
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:24pm

    …
    He may be an American on paper, but in his heart and soul he’s un-American.

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  • FreedomPurveyor
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:21pm

    Wow, that piece of paper saying “yep we have it” will surely eradicate all doubt!

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  • NHwinter
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:20pm

    Beside his father not being an American citizen, does it mean he lied when he said he was a foreign student when he went to occidental college?

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:19pm

    Of course, the poser is an American citizen and ‘the private sector is doing fine.’

    ROMNEY 2012

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  • RJJinGadsden
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:17pm

    LOL! Now that they have had time to manufacture a better looking facsimile. Just wonder what glaring errors are on this one? JZS will willing swallow this hook, line, and sinker though.

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    • inblack
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:22pm

      So why do they show everything except the original?

      This is stupid.

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    • weisja4
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:42pm

      They did release a copy of the original….remember? What else could they do? And i know you are going to say, release the original, but to whom? and what would that person do with it? The State needs the original for there records, but they have release a copy

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 8:06pm

      Hi RJJ,

      This is interesting. Check out the signatures of the “parent” and the “attendant”, the pen tip used for both and the different pressure used for both. Then check out the signed dates next to both, how the pen tips and pressure used are different from either of the signatures yet each date has the same pen tip, the same pressure used and the same style numbers.

      http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/A_Politics/longformbirthcertificate.pdf

      As for JZS…. yep, hook, line and sinker! Or should I say stinker…..

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 8:38pm

      THE-MONK, hehehe, I’ve had that certificate downloaded into my pictures file since it was first released. Even without using an extra program all that I have to do is enlarge it a little and a lot of those boo-boos jump right out at you.
      Otherwise, how is it going tonight?
      Yeah, we know JZS will be on here sometime tonight calling us all sorts of idiot, and give his “See, I told you so” speech. Along with a lot of others. LOL, should make for some funny reading.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 9:38pm

      Hi RJJ,

      Have you seen the (very long) Sheriff Arpaio video dissecting it (BC) with Adobe? I have a link if you want it.

      I’m doing OK, all things considered. Have the house to myself tonight and the rain has cooled it down enough to open the door and windows.

      I missed one of Anonymoues’s accounts (bilderbergbeck12) but vanquished it earlier today. If you ever see him posting here again I have “card blanche” to cancel it so let me know if you feel like it.

      One thing I don’t understand is not listing the race of the new-born on BC’s. Mine says, “Caucasian” and I seem to remember that BHO’s listed him as “African American” on the first released BC. Could you check your download of the first released BC for this? I did not save it when I reformatted and reloaded my computer to clear away all the Google junk I had.

      As for JZS… he’s harmless yet fun. I’m thinking about calling his sister to intervene. LOL.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:12am

      Hey MONK, Yes, I was looking forward to seeing that video once I heard that it was about to be released on the net. I sat and watched it right away. No wonder the administration and the DOJ has such a vendetta to settle with Arpaio.
      Thanks for pointing that out regarding Anonymoues’s new site name. I’ll keep an eye open for it. Guess he didn’t like his sexual proclivity to be revealed. LOL.
      Don’t want any more rain here, but wish you would share some of that cooling down. Okay, guess I can’t complain too much. We’ve had a relatively cooler Spring this year, and the nights have been pleasant enough to the point we could turn off the air and open some windows to run the attic fan.

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    • majasdad
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 1:42pm

      @INBLACK
      What do you mean? They’ve shown a copy of the original. Check it out why don’t you?
      Do you expect the authorities to drive the original around to every American to touch, smell, study with an electron microscope, carbon 14 date, test for fingerprints, lick, taste, analyze the ink, DNA test etc.? And would you even be convinced then? Doubt it.

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  • PROSECUTE_PUBLIC_SERVANTS__FOR_CONSTITUTIONAL_TREASON
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:10pm

    OK so we now have further verification Obummer father was a foreigner. That means Obummer is disqualified to be a candidate. Both parents are not US citizens at the time of Obummer birth.

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    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:15pm

      I guess Romney’s out also then.

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    • BIGJOSHTOTHERIGHT
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:19pm

      His father never became a natualized citizen of the USA, therefore obama could not leagally run for President of the USA. All this means that he is not a US citizen without applying for it

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    • afishfarted
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:19pm

      interesting that Obama’s lawyers have scheduled a court date to argue that having a foriegn born parent still qualifies as a natural born citizen.

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    • hallkbrdz
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:19pm

      Exactly. He is NOT qualified as they are not both natural US citizens. No more proof is required that he is not qualified. When will the scales be removed from peoples eyes?

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    • AmericanPatriot
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:21pm

      TOTALLY agree! Plus, don’t most birth certificates and things relating to the birth have the DATE of the birth? Just askin’!

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    • hallkbrdz
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:27pm

      Exrepublisheep – you are a sheep. Research and learn.

      Romney is qualified because his father was born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents.

      Obama is NOT qualified because his father was born in Kenya, NOT to U.S. citizen-parents.

      See the difference? Or is that too difficult for you to follow?

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    • yathink
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:28pm

      @exrep
      Yes if that’s the case. No matter who it is, it’s the law. I’m tired of the rules ever changing. What fools we all are.

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    • weisja4
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:46pm

      to all of you, but mostly HALLKBRDZ,
      You are wrong on several fronts:

      1) Being born in the US makes you a citizen, regardless of who your parents are. There is no requirement that your parents have to be citizens for a you to be one, being born in this country is enough.
      2) Even if he was born in another country, his mother is a citizen, that makes him a citizen

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    • Psychosis
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 7:07pm

      WEISJA4

      obviously doesnt know the difference between citizen, natural born citizen , and naturalized citizen

      natural born citizen ……………….child born to 2 US citizens on US soil

      citizen …………child born to one US parent ( location not important )

      naturalized citizen ……………person who changes citizenship to US citizen through court proceeding

      CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENT to be president ……………NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

      constitutional requirement to be CONGRESSMAN…………….citizen

      CONSTITUTION CLEARLY LISTS THE TWO DIFFERENT TERMS , THUS THEY DO NOT MEAN THE SAME THING

      obama is not eligible because his father was not a US citizen at the time of his birth ( or ever ) thus he is ONLY a citizen , and does not meet the requirement of NATURAL BORN CITIZEN and does not qualify for the position of PRESIDENT

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    • idarusskie
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 11:11pm

      George Romney was a citizen at birth. His folks were living in Mexico but they were US citizens. That being said Obama has made a prescient. only one parent needed to be citizen to be president.

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    • Psychosis
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 12:35am

      @ spqr1

      i will take the founders , the constitution , and the “ law of Nations ” before i take any advice from a first year “ law ” student but thanks anyways

      your completely clueless, and whats more, you didnt even bother to refute what i stated

      go play at the huff in puff ……………………………only big people sit at the adult table

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    • wesaluteyou
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 12:42am

      spqr1: You have no idea what your talking about. The code of statutory construction is learned by every student in law school, and every practicing attorney has confronted it. Every single attorney reading this right now knows, beyond any shadow of a doubt that “citizen” and “natural born citizen” are two separate clauses with totally different meanings. If the 14th Amendment was held to declare that all persons born in the country, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, were natural-born citizens, then the “natural born Citizen” clause would be rendered inoperative. It would be superfluous. And its specific provision would, therefore, be governed by the general provision of the 14th Amendment. The United States Supreme Court has determined many times that it is inadmissible to even make that argument.
      The rule of statutory construction was best stated by Chief Justice Marshall in Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. 137 (1803):
      “It cannot be presumed that any clause in the constitution is intended to be without effect; and therefore such construction is inadmissible, unless the words require it.” Id. 174.

      Had the original framers intended for any “born Citizen” to be eligible to the office of President, they would not have included the word “natural” in the clause. Additionally, had the framers of the 14th Amendment intended to declare that every person born in the country was a “natural born Citizen”, then the 14th Amendment would contain clear and mani

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    • wesaluteyou
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 12:59am

      Comment continued: and manifest language to that effect. But it doesn’t. Therefore, each clause must be given separate force and effect.
      Any genuine construction of the “natural born Citizen” clause must begin from the starting point that it requires something more than citizenship by virtue of being born on U.S. soil. Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), tells you exactly what that something is… citizen parents.

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    • Spqr1
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 1:23am

      Psychosis: I did refute you. I just I speak educated instead of crazy. Try reading actual case law, then you’d know why ever legal challenge has been handed back “with prejudice”. BTW: that’s legalese for “you and your crazy notions about the law just got your ass handed to you.” Maybe case law has too many big words for those who’s first language is Confederate. BitherFail!

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    • Spqr1
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 1:26am

      wesaluteyou: try that in an actual court of law in this case, you’ll be laughed out in five minutes by any sane judge. Go ahead, this is an official dare, I mean it… Let’s see what you got. Game on….

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    • Spqr1
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 1:27am

      PS: get Beck to cover your case and report on your progress…… No, really…. I’ll be waiting….

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    • phil1765
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 4:36am

      For someone who is busy lecturing everyone how unintelligent they are you sure do make a lot of spelling errors. Usually I could care less about spelling on here but most people don’t claim to be smarter than every other poster. By the way it is birther, not bither you idiot.

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    • wesaluteyou
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 4:36am

      spqr1: Must have had a tough potty training.

      No one laughed Deputy Chief Judge Malihi out of court when he explained the rule of statutory construction in his denial of candidate Obama’s Motion to Dismiss, wherein his opinion of the Court stated:

      “Statutory provisions must be read as they are written, and this Court finds that the cases cited by Defendant are not controlling. When the Court construes a constitutional or statutory provision, the ‘first step . . . is to examine the plain statutory language.’ Morrison v. Claborn, 294 Ga. App. 508, 512 (2008). ‘Where the language of a statute is plain and unambiguous, judicial construction is not only unnecessary but forbidden. In the absence of words of limitation, words in a statute should be given their ordinary and everyday meaning.’ Six Flags Over Ga. v. Kull, 276 Ga. 210, 211 (2003). Because there is no other ‘natural and reasonable construction’ of the statutory language, this Court is ‘not authorized either to read into or to read out that which would add to or change its meaning.‘ Blum v. Schrader, 281 Ga. 238, 240 (2006) Deputy Chief Judge Malihi, Jan. 3, 2012, pg. 3.

      Judge Malihi states, quite clearly, in his ruling above, that the Court is not authorized to read into or to read out that which would add to or change its meaning. The general does not govern the specific, and the rule requires the court to give effect to both “citizen” and the specific “NBC.”

      So far your argument i

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  • ValidFib
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:10pm

    Odd that THE DATE OF BIRTH ISN’T LISTED on this verification. I smell a rat.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:19pm

      Interesting point, it also claims father is from Kenya all over again when it was not yet Kenya.

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  • Too_Far_Gone
    Posted on June 8, 2012 at 6:10pm

    B.S. Next Lie…

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