See the New Pictures of China‘s ’Mighty Dragon’ J-20 Stealth Fighter
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(Editor’s Note: This story was written by Eloise Lee and Robert Johnson and originally appeared in Business Insider)
New pictures of the China’s J-20 Mighty Dragon stealth fighter have surfaced and are making their way across military blogs.
This newest round of photos show the J-20 in the skies somewhere over mainland China.
The prototype is said to be using the Saturn AL-31 turbofan engine developed by the Russians for their Su-27 air superiority fighter.
Reuben Johnson at The Washington Times reports the Chinese may be as much as 10 years away from producing an original stealth engine to slip into the J-20.
In the meantime, they’ll have to take comfort in the fact that while the F-22 Raptor may be more agile and made entirely in the U.S., the Dragon carries more fuel and weapons than Lockheed’s fighter.
The J-20′s development is also moving along much faster than anyone had expected. Back in 2009, Gen. He Weirong, deputy commander of the People’s Liberation Army Air Force said in a TV interview that the J-20 wouldn’t be operational until 2017-2019. That estimate will likely be revised if work continues at the current pace.
Bill Sweetman at AviationWeek points out that for all its headway, no one is yet sure what the J-20 is for. He speculates that given the aircraft’s size and weapons bays, it may be used to “threaten intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance assets and tankers, by using stealth and speed to defeat their escorts.”
China developed their own WS-10G turbofan engines to power the Mighty Dragon.
The J-20 climbed the sky to demonstrate its maneuverability.
Its frontal fuselage has been designed like the F-22 Raptor to reduce radar detectability.
The J-20 has a large weapon bay with two smaller lateral bays for short and long range air-to-air missiles.
Expect more of China showing off its new military developments.
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dancing bear
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:13pmIt seems the balance of power is changing as we slip farther into european scocialism and print more and more money the chinese and russians are licking there chops. Its just a matter of time before our freedoms and virtues turn into entitlements and god becomes the goverment.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 1:15pmFrom the article: “… no one is yet sure what the J-20 is for.”
It’s for debt-collection from spendthrift America.
Report Post »RabidPatriot
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 1:45pmI remember when military supremacy and intelligence were a priority in this country. The only thing that is a secret these days are the names of political donors.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 2:03pmMore fuel and larger payload capacity??? How far do they plan on going to drop the bomb?
aerorepairo
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 3:53pmI think the Chicoms stole the shape of this aircraft off the video game ‘Command and Conquer Generals Zero Hour.’ Then added F-22 features to it.
Report Post »RejectFalseIcons
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 4:11pmRemember that air power is a deterrent. It’s the deterrent behind nuclear weapons. By countering our deterrence, they leave only nuclear options as realistic plans to prevent war.
Expect to see these in the skies over central africa in the next 10 years when China decides to re-colonize for raw materials.
Report Post »TheePolitinator
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 5:10pmYup funded by we the people, so when the crap hits the fan, you paid for it.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 5:16pmSeems like China is getting ready to foreclose on America.
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 5:21pm2 TH30PH1LUS; How many of these did BHO‘s ’stimulus/porkulus’ buy???
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 5:30pmWhen will Walmart start selling this new chicom product?
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:09pm“Back in 2009, Gen. He Weirong, deputy commander of the People’s Liberation Army Air Force said in a TV interview that the J-20 wouldn’t be operational until 2017-2019.”
What? The Chinese know how to lie? Say it ain’t so Mr. Obama.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:09pmHot looking stealth..made in China..China owns 1.6 trillion of our debt..right? This administration used our military and our tax dollars overthrowing our‘s and Israel’s friends in the ME..and the premises of establishing democracy aka Sharia Law..which is in progress here..that is the way nations are over run..endless warring and financial catastrophe..save our country..bring our troops home..cut 5 islamo/fascist government bureaurcracies..stop illegal welfare of 338.3 billiion a year.. Reinstate our Constitution…get the gov out of the way..
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:15pmElevators on the front of the main wings? They look like “air brakes”. (First picture)
Anyone seen this before?
Onowicit
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:16pmThis tech is way way behind. We have drones that could shoot this down. Don’t freak out at least for the next 6 months to a year. Then………
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:23pmAll technology B.J.Clinton made sure China had after he “accidentally” bombed the Chinese embassy in Serbia during ‘his’ war.
Report Post »RonmeyPaulBotsrOdd
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:24pmOkay….you really think they are behind us? 24 hour hacking, Clinton selling us out, touring our warships – really??? The chinese know not only what your typing on your computer, but everything about you. Those that think they are not up to date are just not admitting reality. At this time, it would not surprise me if military contractor info is not being intentionally left open for chinese access.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:26pm@Bryan from Florida
“I got news for everyone China’s Army, Air Force and Navy Technology are about 30 years behind any thing the United States has.
China has to buy or steal all of it’s military technology…”
Sorry Bryan… China has been getting their technology from us. They either steal it from hacking our Defense Dept Servers or we give it to them like Clinton did with our ICBM technology back in the 90′s. They are closer than you think and also more willing to use it than our current administration is.
Report Post »fantasywriter
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 10:41pmStealth, my 2004 Honda Accord. This plane is only a little more stealthy then an F-14 Tomcat. Check out the control surfaces on the wings and tail fins. Also, check out the exhaust nozzles. Although it bares some similarities to parts of the F-22 it is a poor copy. The Obama administration took the McNamara route and chose a a lesser joint services plane over the proven F-22. Again, they are leading us down the road to disaster.
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on March 13, 2012 at 7:13amIt is amazing how ignorant we are and let the Chinese use us and play us for fools. The Chinese are hell bent on stealing every high tech product we have and drive us out of business and have been doing it for years. Chinese espionage is out of control and the fools in our government do nothing but talk, in fact our new ambassador was ordered to streamline visa’s for Chinese to come to America. Year on year there is 20-30% increases in our universities and now even they are starting to enter our high schools and other schools, pushing out our own students and stealing their places causing more problems having to shift teachers focus on catering to foreign students needs instead. Their spies are in our universities, corporations, military contractors and businesses. Chinese restaurants are used to poison Americans with their cheap toxic imported food and not only that but they are used to launder money, harbor illegal immigrants, avoid taxes, and aid espionage activities. As their spying costs us billions of dollars and years of time they then copy and mass produce their fakes and counterfeits, side note, if you ever see foreigners selling fake merchandise, contact ICE immediately and report them. They then make money off our backs and hard work and when our economy collapses they take their stolen money and come to America they buy our spots in our best schools for their corrupt children, they buy our land, our businesses and steal our country for their own. We must fight!
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on March 13, 2012 at 7:18amYou can’t trust the Chinese period. They are forced to do whatever the government tells them to do while in America including spying. They can blackmail all of them into what they need them to do because all they have to do is say steal the new formula from Dupont or we will cause your family back in China big trouble. Most of the Chinese who are immigrating to our country now are rich corrupt bastards that have Commie government connections who use their bribe money to buy up our country and turn it into another corrupt Chinese province. The Chinese are just as bad as the Mohammedans in my book and every American should do everything they can to oppose them being here or helping them while they are here. Foreigners go home!
Report Post »csinate
Posted on March 13, 2012 at 2:37pm“It seems the balance of power is changing as we slip farther into European socialism and print more and more money. The Chinese and Russians are licking their (there) chops. It’s just a matter of time before our freedoms and virtues turn into entitlements and god becomes the goverment.”
I agree. Hope you don’t mind the few corrections. I didn‘t capitalize god as I’ve assumed that you are using a generic god and not the God – which of course would be capitalized.
Of course if you are Patriotic enough you may want to join my Warriors.
Report Post »http://www.secondamendmentwarrior.com
Do I or do I not have the gumption to criticize and then ask you to join? No matter what anyone says, including myself, you and only you have to decide whether to defend the 2A.
If you decide to Pledge make sure you read all the posts on the site and understand how difficult it is to be a true Warrior.
Best of Luck,
Nate
FNTM
Posted on March 13, 2012 at 6:29pmI worked with the F-22 production line during much of the F-22 life in Marietta. Also observed quite a bit of the development of the JSF. The JSF is an awesome bird in several configurations with quite a few F-22 features. Only one engine though.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:22am@aerorepairo
Report Post »Ha, thats just what I thought.
Either the game makers really did their home work or, Chinese are better at knockoffs than at first suppected.
Jefferson
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 3:28pmChina is the new darling of the NWO, while the good ole US of A is being driven into 3rd world status with a major crisis on the way.
Report Post »Clinton was selling them missile and supercomputer technology back in the 90′s along with light water reactor tech to North Korea.
These people think in terms of decades not years. Our country has been hijacked for a long time.
Enjoy your ***** sandwich non Ron Paul supporters.
He would have been the only one to streamline and strengthen our military by having a strong economy and focusing on our most essential National defense needs. (that’s why he got more support from active duty military than all of the others COMBINED including Barry)
Instead you fall for another media creation that has been shoved down your throats. Fools.
Freedom.Fighter
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 1:07am@BRYANFROMFLORIDA:
Be careful. It is dangerous thinking like that that enables China and makes us complacent. When we are worried about ICBMs or aircraft carriers, they concentrate on cyber warfare and a missile that can take out an entire aircraft carrier.
This stealth aircraft is indeed impressive. We have some aircraft that are even more impressive, but we borrow money just to make them. They have an economic and labor surplus, we are in an unfathomable amount of debt. That is their most powerful weapon of all.
Report Post »davetrav
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:13pmIf Obama has his way in cutting back our military , we will be back to throwing rocks. There is so much pork spending that can be cut, but NEVER put our countries safety on the line. OBAMA and those that think that way HAVE to be voted out. Obama just doesn’t get it.
Report Post »SanityInTheAsylum
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:47pmObama definitely gets it. He is a Marxist who despises capitalism. He is very adept at making you think he is on your side, but never makes any actual headway towards strengthening the economy through jobs creation, green energy, opening up domestic energy. He only grows government and entitlements which put more strain on the system. Healthcare has not even begun to work it’s “magic” regarding taking the system down. He takes credit for any actual or perceived gains, but his intent is to reduce us to a second rate socialist state.
Report Post »Maji
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:48pmSurprised?
GE and the rest of top military contractors are
poking each other’s “eyes out” to be the first
to give not only the blueprints but manufacturing methods away!!!!
Remember when the democrats under Bill Clinton were wanting to
Report Post »sub out our military “PARTS supply chain” to China in the 90′s
They were thinking it would be cheaper to build a Humvee there!
GeoInSD
Posted on April 8, 2012 at 1:39pmI think most people don’t understand Obama. From the various things he has said and taking into account the Marxist upbringing he had, I believe he seeks global equality at national and individual levels. He doesn’t want the US to have a dominant military that no country would dare make war with. (Insurgents aren’t nations.) He doesn’t want the US to be the dominant economy. While he gives lip service to economic growth, our economy in reality going nowhere, or even backwards, is exactly what he wants. The US weakening economically and militarily is exactly what he wants. Obama knows exactly what he is doing but doesn‘t want the people to know what he is doing because the American people would oppose him except for the Bill Ayres’ and Van Jones’s of the USA.
Report Post »davetrav
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:13pmIf Obama has his way in cutting back our military , we will be back to throwing rocks. There is so much pork spending that can be cut, but NEVER put our countries safety on the line. OBAMA and those that think that way HAVE to be voted out. Obama just doesn’t get it.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:44pmCommander In Chief… of the Legion of the Doomed!
Report Post »roagie1
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 5:24pmno ,, all the rock quarries will be owned by china
Report Post »Viper1
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:13pmI have been blowing this whistle for over two years and feel very justified. The Russians are building the engines for this new airplane. Does anybody start to hear the alarm bells go off yet? My God we cancelled our F22 and now the Chinese have the airplane they are not supposed to have till 2023. If they are showing us what they do have what are they not showing us?
Report Post »StuckInKali
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 1:24pmExactly. Something to think about as we borrow trillions of dollars in debt from China while gorging on Chinese made goods to entertain ourselves. We’re funding this.
Report Post »Puddle Duck
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 1:30pmA conventional force that is truly formidable in terms of both size and capability. The one thing the Russians and the Chinese have over the West is an inexhaustable source of men to draw upon and a willingness to take casualties on a scale we cannot match. Stalin had a saying in WWII “Quantity has a quality all it’s own”. He was of course, right. The vast capability of the Allies during WWII to outproduce the Axis and then supply that output with trained men was the difference in the end that the Germans nor the Japanese could ever hope to match. This buildup by the Chinese and the return to regional support of traditional allies by the Russians has signaled to the world that the old Soviet/Chinese bloc has returned once again. The changes to the systems of both Gov’ts are similar…State Capitalism is what they would call it…I call it the same old Comunnist crap.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 2:26pmPuddle Duck
Report Post »Modern weapons make an largely infantry military nothing but a big target. The more people you pack into the MLRS kill box the more casualties they have. As long as we RETAIN logistic and weapon superiority it doesn’t matter how many they have they just become goo on the ground. The German army in WW2 was technologically superior, but barely, and did not/could not produce enough Panther or Tiger tanks to overcome the T-34 series. Similarly, German fighter superiority was not sufficient to keep pace with increasingly sophisticated Soviet designs. Numbers alone did not beat the Germans, don’t forget the western allies 24/7 bombing campaign that destroyed fuel sources, military factories and the means to move that equipment to the front. Planes could not fly in bad weather and the advances in modern GPS, radar, weather prediction etc, make a comparison not Apples and Oranges but rather Peaches and potatoes.
KevINtampa
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 2:36pmDMERWIN,
I would say that you a correct to a degree with regards to technology in war. Where I think we would largely disagree is in the philosophy with the reasons and goals for war.
If my goal is to intercept a marching army out of another country, take for instance Kuwait, technology is a great aspect to have. If however, my goal is to occupy another country, well, then I want human feet on the ground to keep the enemy populace in line.
Now, some will argue that technology can prevent your country from being occupied by an invasion force. Unless, of course, you find an ally or complicit country which shares a border with your enemy. In that case, I don’t care how many missiles you have. You surely don’t have millions, which is what it would take to eliminate a billion man army marching against your border.
Report Post »BostonHarold
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 2:57pmHow do we know it is what they say it is from a picture? It could be a phony knock-off…like their counterfeit DVD’s. A fake cut glass diamond. The paranoid Reds are famous for the Big Lie of authentic looking reproductions. Socialist drones are not known for their technological creativity. They are notorious for stealing our stuff to make an impression on the gullible Western press. Fear not the Mighty Dragon…as far as I can tell there is only one prototype…not an entire airwing. I assure you it is a scary looking glitch filled low tech hangar queen and it’s test pilots are wearing Depends. Our amazingly lethal F-22 Raptor is the real deal and scares the heck out of them. The cutting edge F-117 Nighthawk of yore is now outdated and obsolete!
Report Post »GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:42pmThe problem is that they are stealing your technology through internet, and meanwhile Barry is giving them a drone to study in Iranians hands, and a helicopter in Pakistan (Well, this one was the only way to do it, and I trust the Seals did their very best destroying it)….America and the West are investing and researching for years and the enemies are getting it for free just after a click on their keyboards. They are not the only ones doing this: the Russian groups of hackers are very famous too.
Report Post »Amicus Curiae
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:05pmThis ain‘t your father’s Oldsmobile, FYI http://www.slideshare.net/AmicusCuriae/fifth-generation-jet-fighter-comparison
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 5:56pmGood post. I have been watching the development of these 5th generation planes.
Report Post »FreedomInData
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:01pmThe Chinese discovered “Capitalism” and look what they can build with the money.
We are a nation of anti-capitalism (except when its time to collect and raise taxes),
Report Post »and we systematically shut down our military.
JRook
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:05pmSeriously do you practice being ignorant or does it come naturally. You do understand the the majority of industries are state run. So you are correct they don’t collect taxes, they merely exploit their workers and funnel all of the profits into research and design of new technology. So your saying this is a better system than ours?
Report Post »goahead.makemyday
Posted on March 13, 2012 at 8:21amI think he is just lamenting the fact that America has lost 75% of it‘s manufacturing while China’s is growing. Until we do some major changes when it comes to production against China we’ll lose. The kicker is we don’t need to become like China(the way we’re going), just to how we were during WWII.
Report Post »NoNannyState4me
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:57amLikely that Iran already has a nuke too. We only get to see what the MSM, including Fox, want us to see when the Gubbiment decides it’s time to suit an agenda of more war. The entire world is passing us up and all we are doing is fighting it, literally.
Report Post »Evil_Conservative
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:55amKnock off!! I love how the US spends billions on R&D. Have working machine. Dont produce it. Then the Chinese steal the blueprints and make them by the thousands.
Report Post »StanO360
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 1:41pmThe Russians did the same thing, and it didn’t usually work as well as the original. And by the time they produce it, we’ve gone further ahead.
Report Post »Barbarian
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:53amThey don’t have to be a good as the Chinese say they are. The Chinese will simply use the money we give them for our debt repayment. They‘ll have so many of the damn things that rice farmer will be using ’em as crop dusters. Hell, Obama will probably be presented one (Acornse One) for his personal use in the off chance he ever relinquishes the Chairmanship.
Report Post »Black Conservative
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:53amAnd Obama wants to cut defense??? Hope you all are sharpening up on your Manadrin.
Report Post »Evil_Conservative
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:56amLearning Chinese is probably a good idea. :-/
Report Post »Marsh626
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:45amGood call on canceling the F-22 Obama…
Report Post »Belchfire V-8
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:49amAnd the vaunted F-35 is a Mach 1.6 DOG that carries HALF the missiles of the F-22. WAY TO GO, BAMSTER, YOU COMMIE SELLOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Evil_Conservative
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:52amexactly. Obummer is worse than Jimmy carter
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 1:09pm@ belchfire, Please note that the stated munitions capacities are for internal payloads only. The F-35 can carry more firepower once air superiority is accomplished and stealth is less of a neccessity. Then you can strap on muitions to the under side of the wings like you see in almost EVERY other fighter aircraft in the current US inventory and use it for air to ground and close in air support missions.
BTW, I asked one of the engineers who designed the thing about the payload capacity first hand because I had the same apprehension about the internal payload capacity as you and I can assure you that they will carry munitions under the wing.
Report Post »Puddle Duck
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 1:38pmIn order to effectively counter the Russo/Chinese alliance the West would have to go to a full industrial war footing just to get the numbers needed in order to compete for Air Superiority. The fact that we have not nearly enough frontline fighters to do that job as it satnds now should give one serious pause for thought. If the Chinese put these fighters into mass production (they have the money and the means) the paltry numbers of F22/Euro2000 planes we have won’t be able to gain that crucial Air Superiority role that we must have in order to role in the conventional forces behind them. The Russian forces have scrapped the old ways and adopted western methods of command and controil and have likely given Chinese Military brass the tarining to follow. We are losing the edge we once had. The training and skills of the man weilding the weapon is the most effective use of tech…but when that skill is matched by your oppoenet then numbers come into decisive play.
Report Post »Belchfire V-8
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 1:58pmWOW, it can carry stores on external pylons. So much for stealth. It is still slow and not made for maneuvering. Check out the canopy, rear vision is impared . It was built with the idea of F-22′s providing top cover. ONE ENGINE, goodie, another lawn dart. Don’t drink the Koolaide.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 2:12pmBelchfire V-8
Report Post »Remember when we feared the MiG 23 and 25? Same-Same.
dmerwin
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 2:16pmSgtB
Report Post »Good point. The Iraqis had a fairly complex air defense system but were afraid to turn it on for fear of wild weasels and HARM missiles. Stationary radar can easily be defeated by cruise missiles and the mobile radars usually service missile with a fairly short range. So we should have both.
Belchfire V-8
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 3:44pmI have been around awhile and I read history. The Chinese will not be a push over like the Iraqi’s. The North Koreans won’t be either. We are repeating the 1930′s all over again. Only this time it will be goodbye USA. Our pride is blinding many to the truth. The Mig 17‘s and Mig 21’s gave us a lot of trouble in Viet Nam. The latest generations of Migs and Sukois should not be taken lightly. Did anyone pay attention to the loss of the “stealth” drone? Technology can be thwarted, and huge numbers can crush a smaller force. The Chinese don’t care as much about loses. There aren’t enough F-22′s to pull the F-35′s fat out of the fire in a protracted war.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:05pm” There aren’t enough F-22′s to pull the F-35′s fat out of the fire in a protracted war.”
You say this like the F-15, F-16, and F18 are all already gone…
Stealth Fuselage + Non Stealth engines = non stealth aircraft. And the stealth engine is the hardest part of the gig…
Not to mention they have no version of the AWACS support, or a carrier fleet to move this thing around (assuming it could even get on and off a flat top)….
You know how the US obtains Air Superiority? First strike… We hit there aircraft with bombs and cruise missile before they get off the ground…. The F-22s and F15s are reserved for the small percentage that do get off the ground…
“Technology can be thwarted” Yup, your right….and that’s why the Chinese can build cheap rip offs all they want…They don’t have the 80 years of experience all our pilots draw on…. The F-22 and F-35 aren’t just the most advanced aircraft, they are flown by the best pilots in the world….
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:42pm@eagle2715
“The F-22 and F-35 aren’t just the most advanced aircraft, they are flown by the best pilots in the world….”
You got that exactly right. My best friend flew P-51D’s against Migs with both Korean and Chinese pilots in Korea. Of course, he was the best pilot around and only sat at a round table.
I took him to Sun-n-Fun for the first unofficial public viewing of the F-22. It was chasing Crazy Horse (P-51D flown by Lee Lauderback, http://www.stallion51.com/). When the F-22 out maneuvered the P-51D my friend said, “Well, the days of the P-51 are over”. He loved the P-51 and would take on anything and anyone because he was such a great pilot… until he saw the F-22. I’ll never forget the look on his face that day. He saw an aircraft that could out-turn a Mustang and the F-22 pilot had less experience than him.
Report Post »Belchfire V-8
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:50pmI remember when the F-15′s were new, IN THE 70′S. They are retiring them constantly due to airframes reaching their fatigue limits. They will also be greatly out numbered due to the Air Force shrinking it’s size. Yes, our pilots are great, but the Chinese are planning to overwhelm them with shear numbers. If you are carrying 8 air to air missiles and you get 100% of the planes you fire at, GOOD, but if they have 10-15 to your 1, bye bye. And the great F-35 doesn’t even have the option of bugging out. IT IS TOO SLOW!! I love the Air Force and did 25 years of service. But OBUTTHEAD and the lefty loonies are gutting our military, while INCREASING wasteful spending on everything else. Wait until you young guys need medical care or expect what you were promised for retirement benefits, guess again!!!! Keep drinking the Koolaide and believing that the U.S.A. can never fall. THEY ARE DESTROYING IT DAILY! What is happening in Europe financially is coming here next. I wish it were not so, it was a bitter pill for me when I figured it out.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:55pm@eagle2715
Report Post »Please forgive me for not saying…. Semper Fi !
Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:34amCongradulations Mr Obama – one more proof of your treasonous activities as you obviously sent them whatever information they wanted on our stealth technology.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:47amDamn… we design Good Planes… too bad we don’t keep em!
Report Post »formidable_foe
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 5:45pmI seem to remember something about Clinton funneling quite a bit of technology their way. We can’t forget to thank Bill.
Report Post »Puddle Duck
Posted on March 13, 2012 at 10:33amThe Clinton‘s were largely responsible for putting the Chinese Gov’t on a fast track to parity (in many areas of engineering/tech etc) with the West. It was scandalous what they did…the MSM at the time let the Admin off the hook (similar to today) for this betrayal of the nation.
Report Post »LPpaladin
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:33amThere are two major differences in the aircraft? It is not built in the USA and want be maintained by our proud, dedicated and patriotic Men and Women of the USAF. Its a clay pigeon ready for target practice.
Report Post »GO-FOR-LIBERTY
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 7:46pmMaybe with our brand spanking new ~~~~~HEAT RAY~~~~~maybe the outer skin will melt.
Report Post »GrayPanther
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:29amBuy yet another reason to through out the Obama administration. Can you imaging our security on selling highly classified components to these jackals? Non existent. Typical communist product. Stolen looks and 20 year old electronics and software. And all the pilots will be “heroes of the state”. Send them all white silk scarves and a bottle of vodka!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:36amActually there is a basis of where China got at least an initial start on the stealth from the West; if I recall my history right, during one of the NATO actions over Bosnia we lost a stealth fighter which China was given access to by their Balkland allies.
Of course too, Obama probably gave them whatever information they wanted from American advances across the board.
Report Post »chrispy72
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:23amWhere’s Clint Eastwood(aka Major Mitchell Grant)?
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:41amExactly what I was thinking. Clearly, somebody tried to replicate ‘Fire Fox’ here….
Report Post »POdVet
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 6:50pmYes this does look amazingly similar to the fictional MiG 31 from the Eastwood movie.
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 7:31pmAre you kidding? Every time I click on the link, I find myself humming the theme….Maybe we should go steal it, like they steal our stuff…
Report Post »rukiddinme59
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:23amNo worries, IT’S MADE IN CHINA !!! It’s going to fall apart or malfunction within no time. Ever bought any Chinese made power tools?
Report Post »SlyFox123
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:15amSure…..why not show the world…..hell, they stole it from us, as some one in this country is driving around in a new MB, and just purchased a new home in some swank area of some town. Sad…..that our own {citizens}, are selling us out for a few cents on the dollar
Report Post »JBIII
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:34amFrom talking to a friend who’s getting his degree in Computer Science, the Chinese basically can and have gained access to defense and military secrets on several occasions. They don’t need spies, they can just take what they want using the internet.
Report Post »James Daly
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:14am“The J-20′s development is also moving along much faster than anyone had expected. Back in 2009, Gen. He Weirong, deputy commander of the People’s Liberation Army Air Force said in a TV interview that the J-20 wouldn’t be operational until 2017-2019. That estimate will likely be revised if work continues at the current pace.”
Yeah… He Way Wrong alright. WAY wrong.
Report Post »DAYWATCHER
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:12amThey will be rolling of the line by the end of 2014. They are working 24-7 to get them built.
Report Post »Brian
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:04amWhy are communists always so proud of their ability to steal our secrets and make poor imitations? Bizarre.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:11amI hope it is a poor imitation.
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:16amHey, at least were exporting SOMETHING to the Chinese. You’re welcome, People’s Republic of…!
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:18amOh, I forgot: We also send them lots of jobs. We’re good like that.
Report Post »IAMINFIDEL
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:02amDefinately a knock-off of the F-22. Obama has halted production of the F-22, obviously an act to appease the Chinese.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:01amLooks like the Firefox.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:06amJust think, they can afford to build them, while we are cutting our DoD budget and number of aircraft.
Report Post »Cavallo
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:11amWe should send Clint to go steal it.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:15amAnd every piece of junk we buy from them, every dollar we borrow, lets them build that many more. ;-(
Report Post »Mandors
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:01amLooks heck of a lot like an F-22. Gee, do you think they copied it? Those additional ailerons at the front are interesting, though.
Report Post »1TrueOne55
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 2:52pmThey Stole the plans from Hacking the DoD computers and by infiltrating some of our R&D operations at Los Alamos and other facilities in the 80‘s and 90’s… There were many stories back then about “Asian” agents passing secrets to the Chinese Gov’t working at these places. And if we knew about it then we could have created false information to try and slow down development.
Report Post »BostonHarold
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 3:11pmThey got some rudimentary stealth technology from a crashed F-117 in Bosnia back in the 90′s and de-engineered it. We were unable to bomb it into smithereens because the rebels…knowing it’s value…posted hundreds of civilians around the wreckage…figuring that‘s what we’d do.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 6:02pmThose are not ailerons on the front. Those are canards for pitch control.
Report Post »goahead.makemyday
Posted on March 13, 2012 at 8:41amI agree with BOMUSTGO. They are to provide a decreased turn radius, and make it more agile. The down side is it provides more drag countered by more lift. Also it is more surface area and decreases it’s stealth, countered by increased close combat ability. Once these get some good engines America’s main advantages are the pilots skills and stealth. I can see a F-22 easily taking it one on one but losing in one vs a squadron which will most likely be the case. While I was initially excited about the F-35′s and their multi-role capabilities these things would be comparable on a one on one basis. As for the AWACS argument these things would have the numbers to get to the AWACS and destroy them, unless of course we have a stealth version of the AWACS. But as it is now we don’t have enough planes to counter this, and don’t get me started comparing the ground forces.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 10:58amSomeone has been, is, giving our technology away.
RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 10:57amWhat, they couldn’t steal the engine design too?
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:05amThey did…they have to tool up to produce it……
Report Post »Did Clinton buy a new house?
martinez012577
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:45amIt seems our friends Israel might have had something to do with it.
According to wikileaks Mossad was a major player on stealing the info and selling/trading it for info on Iran.
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