See the Video Anders Behring Breivik Posted Before the Norway Massacre
- Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:06am by
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Norwegian bombing and shooting suspect Anders Behring Breivik is believed to have posted the following 12-minute video to YouTube just prior to the attacks, which claimed 93 lives.
The video, titled “2083 — A European Declaration of Independence” features a series of slides claiming Europe has become a slave to multiculturalism and is being overrun by Muslims. With the charge, “Onward, Christian Soldiers!“ the video urges viewers to ”Support the Resistance!“ and be a part of the ”Infidel Revolution” to banish Islam from Europe. The end includes images of Breivik dressed in a formal military uniform and in a wet suit pointing an assault rifle.
Breivik is also believed to have written a 1,518 page manifesto of the same title. An unverified copy of the manifesto can be viewed on this site here.



















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DaveOregon
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:09pmThough sympathetic to the man’s issues with multiculturalism and the muslims – killing norweigan men and women was the direct opposite of who – if killing had to be done in his mind – he should have killed. Should have been the muslims. I understand he sees his government allowing them in as the main problem – but you won’t change the govt/liberal mind by attacking your own – better to make your country unsafe for the muslims – so they don’t want to come and your govt does not let them in so they can say – it’s for their (muslims) own safety!
Report Post »LeftyLieDetector
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 6:08amAnybody that wants to learn the truth about Norway, Muslims, socialism, their failures (and their leader’s massive lies)… Read Bruce Bawer. He actually lives there and is spot on. He also has his own website.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/oslo-car-fires-highlight-threat-to-norways-future/?singlepage=true
Report Post »redyanqui
Posted on July 27, 2011 at 10:41pmyou people on here are insane
Report Post »GittleShel
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:08pmTo MURDER 80 in order to have his view heard. He is nothing but a terrorist! It’s sad in life that there are those who hate something so much it becomes them!
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:35pm@GittleShel,
“He is nothing but a terrorist! It’s sad in life that there are those who hate something so much it becomes them!”
What you’re describing is when people kill for the SAME reason. And while in this case he did kill before his victims violated anyone’s individual inalienable rights, like Socialist governments have done throughout history, it wasn’t the act of killing, itself, that made him a terrorist.
Take our Second Amendment, for example; And also take Federalist Papers #46. Citizens have a right and duty to forcefully defend themselves and their country from violations of individual inalienable rights.
Federalist Papers #46
http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa46.htm
“But ambitious encroachments of the federal government, on the authority of the State governments, would not excite the opposition of a single State, or of a few States only. They would be signals of general alarm. Every government would espouse the common cause. A correspondence would be opened. Plans of resistance would be concerted. One spirit would animate and conduct the whole. The same combinations, in short, would result from an apprehension of the federal, as was produced by the dread of a foreign, yoke; and unless the projected innovations should be voluntarily renounced, the same appeal to a trial of force would be made in the one case as was made in the other.”
Report Post »JoeBtfsplk
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:28pmWho is “INNOCENT” anymore?
Every ONE will have to make up their own mind.
Report Post »Thegeneral69
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:37pmTake a step back from your position at look at just who this guy killed. Is it not socialists who want to impress there veiws on everyone else. Just look at history and you will see that people like those killed in norway are responsible for killing millions. I just rather do it to them before they do it to us(ie. weather underground)
Report Post »shazam3
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:45pmIf all this is true, why didn’t he kill Muslims instead of his own people.
Report Post »redyanqui
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:51pm@Shazam
he wants to eliminate cultural marxism and islam in europe. so, he attacks social democrats because they are in favor of multiculturalism.
also, he claims that the attacks have to be ‘spectacular’ to get media attention. so what does this reactionary Knight Templar nut do? goes and bombs a government building then kills 80 kids at a political conference/camp.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:15pm@Pigpen,
“If this was a neo-nazi youth camp and the little campers were collateral damage for a MOSSAD hit who then claimed that they were only bringing a Nazi war-criminal to “justice”, ALL OF YOU “Blazers” would be screeching “Stand with Israel” “Stand with Israel””
If you’re including me, you’re misunderstanding my position. These kids didn‘t violate anyone’s individual inalienable rights, and that’s why this guy is guilty of murder, and should die.
But the Socialist camp did encourage kids to hold to a belief in Collective Rights, as opposed to individual rights, and this belief has destroyed many countries and lives in the past, so the fear this guy had for his country and his own life was well, founded.
Report Post »GRAMPA-D-NH
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:19pm@Shaz
He answers your question on p5 of the +1500 page manifesto:
“You cannot defeat Islamisation or halt/reverse the Islamic colonization of Western Europe
without first removing the political doctrines manifested through multiculturalism/cultural
Marxism…”
Murdering ~94 people reveals he went over to EVIL and that deserves condemnation. If anything he has badly damaged legit view on dangerous threats to our Western civilization.
Report Post »Pigpen
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:38pm@A DOCTORS LABOR IS NOT MY RIGHT
No, I am not addressing you. I am addressing those Blazers who hypocritically believe in “different strokes for different folks” e.g. It is terrorism if a blond-haired, blue-eyed Christian kills Marxists, but it is “freedom fighting” if the swarthy Mossad agents kill blond-haired, blue-eyed, Christian Nationalists.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 3:47pmPIGPEN, criticisms that take the form of, “if this was…you all would be…” are never valid and always reveal nothing but prejudice on the part of the one who utters it. You cannot know what any of us WOULD DO, unless we give examples of such behavior or approve of it in principle.
Much better would be to phrase your criticism in the form of a question: “Would you react the same if it was…..?” This makes people think and address the question honestly rather than defend themselves and you might find that they agree with you, which would then allow you to focus on those areas of disagreement. making blanket false accustations is never a good tool for increasing understanding.
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:49pmAh Christians, muslims, muslims, christians., crusaders, jihadists. Worked out great for my jewish people .What christisans and muslims will never get, is that the jewish prespective requires one to live for their life; Not for their death! For islam and christianity, it’s all about what you do in your life for your death! It’s the afterlife that matters in non-jewish religions. Judaism is unique in this regard. In judaism the afterlife has little regard! It is the least important of topics to us. While the world has religions that obsess about the after-life, neither jews nor other innocent people will ever be safe… Christianity and islam will always breed more of these nut jobs by sheer virtue of their parallel life perspectives despite any teachings of love or peace… It only takes 1 to kill 100
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:13pmCesium, your form of Judaism is not common. Belief in the resurrection is well established in rabbinic teaching and in the Talmud.
Report Post »VoteBushIn12
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 7:34pm@Islesfordian
Judaism believes in doing good on Earth, not in fighting for your belief in God. Hence why there is no such thing as an Evangelist Jew because Jews don‘t care if you’re Jewish or not. Christians and Muslims think it’s their job to make everyone a Christian or a Muslim (respectively).
@A DOCTORS LABOR IS NOT MY RIGHT
His fears are not well founded at all! He may have had a reason for doing what he did, but that does not make the reason good nor does it mean his fears were well founded.
Any fear that leads to the execution of 80+ children is a fear that is unarguably unfounded.
@PigPen
Report Post »I think you mixed those up, people on this site call Muslims terrorists and Blonde Haired Blue Eyed Christians “freedom fighters”. In fact, when this attack first happened everyone immediately assumed it was Islamic Terrorism, now that they learn it was a Christian boy next door they [Doctor dumb] are claiming his motives were well founded.
techengineer11
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 7:51pmConsider this since there’s stil much confusion to who this guy actually was:
Let’s remember that the Jewish Media falsely portrayed the radical leftist Jared Laughner, who is Jewish, as a “extreme right-winger” and “anti-Semite.” They portrayed the militant self-described “anti-racist,” bisexual, cross dressing Columbine killers (one of whom was Jewish) as “right-wingers” and “neo-Nazis.” So it was predictable that the Jewish Media would have a field day with Anders Breivik.
The Media is simply lying when it calls Breivik a “nationalist,” right-winger,“ ”fundamentalist Christian,“ ”White Supremecist,“ ”White Nationalist,“ and of course ”Neo-Nazi.” None of these are even close to being accurate. The Media is even using a Facebook profile that was made AFTER the killers name was released and is an obvious fake.
It appears that Breivik may have actually been the Norwegian equivalent of an American “Neo-Con.“ On his favorite website he even denounced the excellent Flemish party Vlaams Belang as ”racist,” and anti-gay. lol
Breivik said all “cultural conservatives,” including the English Defense League and the American TEA Party movement, need to adopt three things to be on his “level.“ The three attributes that Breivik said they need to adopt is being ”anti-racist,“ ”pro-gay,“ and ”pro-Israel.” Sounds a lot like the typical Neo-Conservative found on FOX News or the Blaze site doesn’t it? Ma
Report Post »CaptDick
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 7:57pmIf the haters turn the hated into haters, all are lost.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:00pmA lot of talk about renouncing your faith due to an Islamic takeover under this thread. First of all, are you people high brain dead or what? My God, this is the USA!! Founded by Pilgrims!!! And we can’t sing Christmas carrols, pray in public or at school, can’t say Jesus at City Council Meetings, talk about Christ in Congress, learn about the virtues of Christianity at school.. Mention his Name at a Graduation ceremony or pray before a HS football game! Hell the major Christian Holidays are practically not even being observed in America any longer publicly.. Any you people have the gall to talk about what if the Muslims tooks over??? lol
Oh my what does it take for you to understand that we are currently living under a most vile filthy wicked and evil Jewish Apartheid just like the people in the former USSR… lol You just don’t get it do you?
If Glenn Beck or Bill Orielly told you would it become more clear to you? You are insane and blinded if you can’t see that our “collective” Christianity has been stolen from us.
Finally I do not fear Islam taking over America so much but I do fear getting a bullet in the back of my head from some thick skulled ATF, FBI, CIA agent at the bequest of their Jewish boss!
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:03pm@votebushin2012
“@Islesfordian
Judaism believes in doing good on Earth, not in fighting for your belief in God. ”
And what does that have to do with whether or not Jews believe in life after death or place any importance on it? Go back and read what I wrote and to what I was responding, because you obviously missed something.
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:39pm@ IsleFordian .. You‘re telling me I don’t know judaism? You are clueless!! I just told you.. every jew would agree… I’ve been a jew for 34 years!
@techengineer.. I’d efffin kill you if i had the chance nazi
Report Post »jzs
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:49pmDoctors Labor, unlike PigPen, I am addressing comments directly at you. You say, “And while in this case he did kill before his victims violated anyone’s individual inalienable rights, like Socialist governments have done throughout history, it wasn’t the act of killing, itself, that made him a terrorist.”
Then you backtrack and say, “These kids didn‘t violate anyone’s individual inalienable rights, and that’s why this guy is guilty of murder, and should die.”
Your first statement was quite clear: “he did kill before his victims violated anyone’s individual inalienable rights.” Doctor, there really isn’t ambiguity in your statement. You are, to some degree, saying that some of these kids were going to go on violate peoples rights, so he had a good reason for killing them. Then, in your second post you say he didn’t have a good enough reason.
Who defines “inalienable rights” Doctor? Don’t the people who elected the government define that? Or do lone wolves whose opinion you happen to agree with? Maybe we should let Norwegians decide what kind of government they want. And maybe we should stop talking about mass murderers as if they had a legitimate gripe.
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:57pmIt’s amazing to see that we are not the only country concerned with radical Islam! Too bad this nut did what he did!
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:01pmCome on JZS, if it had been a group of White Nationalists you’d be over joyed right now.. Tell the truth now. ;)
Maybe you can clarify for us when an individual has the right to stand up and rebel against his Gov’t? Is there ever such a time?
By the way inalienable rights are rights from God. Very sure that you will never be able to comprehend that so there’s probably no need to explain it to you.
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:16pm@ISLESFORDIAN Yes, I am aware of the jewish scripture concerning resurrection of the dead and that is entirely different than what you assume. As you know not one real jew accepts christ as a savior. We 100% reject christ as a messiah because he does not fit the mold..you can support israel and we are glad for that but we will always see christ as an impostor. http://www.jewfaq.org/index.htm
Report Post »But you still don’t understand what I said about “perspective.“ ”Jewish perspective”. If you are raised a christian, don’t think for a second you will understand. You are brainwashed to be obsessed with death, all that “gotta get saved!!” We do not preach about the ultimatums of sin in judaism.. we promote doing Mitzvah’s.. Jesus’s purpose was love but he was a jew, and he never suggested to any of his followers to abandon judaism and start a religion that instills fear of death in their followers..and that is exactly what christianity and islam ultimately do! jesus also did not suggest to give up gods commandments such as, keep the passover, or keep kosher,.. yet you christians willfully sin every time you bite that cheeseburger, and eat that pork loin, and eat levened bread during passover.
jzs
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:47pmDoctor said, And while in this case he did kill before his victims violated anyone’s individual inalienable rights, like Socialist governments have done throughout history, it wasn’t the act of killing, itself, that made him a terrorist.”
Sorry Doctor, “socialist governments” didn’t exist before the 18th century. That concept didn’t exist. What civilization are you thinking about with your comments that human right have been violated “throughout history” by Socialist governments. The Romans? The Greeks? Babylonians? Persians? Doctor, stop just making stuff up. You make some good points, but when you start talking about what “socialist governments have done throughout history” you’re simply inventing history.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:14pm@VoteBushIn12,
“Any fear that leads to the execution of 80+ children is a fear that is unarguably unfounded.”
Alinsky much?
You know very well that is not my position, because the very same comment of mine from which you derive your distortion tells you otherwise.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:21pm@VoteBushIn12,
“In fact, when this attack first happened everyone immediately assumed it was Islamic Terrorism, now that they learn it was a Christian boy next door they [Doctor dumb] are claiming his motives were well founded.”
Like with your prior claim, you know very well this is not the reason I claimed his fear of Socialism was well-founded, because my post tells you otherwise.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:30pm@jzs,
“Your first statement was quite clear: “he did kill before his victims violated anyone’s individual inalienable rights.” Doctor, there really isn’t ambiguity in your statement. You are, to some degree, saying that some of these kids were going to go on violate peoples rights, so he had a good reason for killing them. Then, in your second post you say he didn’t have a good enough reason.”
There is no ambiguity. Some of these kids would have grown up to violate people’s rights, as has happened before, and has destroyed countries and many lives. But until they try to violate people’s rights, they are welcome to their opinion, and should be argued with before they do something stupid.
This man feared for his life and those of his countrymen – and rightly so. But he jumped the gun and killed innocent people.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:59pm@jzs,
“Who defines “inalienable rights” Doctor? Don’t the people who elected the government define that? Or do lone wolves whose opinion you happen to agree with? Maybe we should let Norwegians decide what kind of government they want. And maybe we should stop talking about mass murderers as if they had a legitimate gripe.”
Well, for one thing, if the people are the one deciding what the inalienable rights are, then what do you do with the views of the ones who disagree? It’s not inalienable if the majority can just elect it so. So, by the simple parsing of the term, your view contradicts itself.
As to your question, inalienable rights are rights that are yours by virtue of being human, and since all men are created equal, all men have the same inalienable rights.
Does someone have a right to claim ownership of you or your thoughts? It works the other way, as well.
THOSE are inalienable rights. Derived from these are the inalienable right to own the fruit of your labor which includes the land one must own in order to then claim ownership of the fruits produced from it; And from this principle comes property rights. And from these so far, comes free-market Capitalism.
I shared a little bit extra there, but it’s no trouble at all.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:04pmI thought that was the debut of GBTV.
“Onward Christian Soldiers, defeat the Marxists and the Muslims”
Where have we seen that before?
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While Breivik certainly acted alone he doesn’t appear to be a madman. This was well planned and targeted. He is no Jared Loughner insanly upset over grammer and mind-control. His motives are shared by many. That video is almost verbatium what many Christian Conservitives are expressing. If you had any doubts about his being a right-wing nationalist this video should quell those doubts.
Of course, you’re free to blame this on Leftists and the Global Caliphate but Breivik already did that for you.
cheers
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:13pmHe would have made a great host on PMSNBC. Ed (Traded to a new team), Rackel, Farheed, Oberdork ( Traded to a new team), all have voiced these feelings against the TEA Party members.
Report Post »He is not one of us. More Code Stink style
drattastic
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:32pmNo he was NO madman ,he was a man who had obviously reached his limits and was fed up with his people ,land and his culture being perverted and destroyed by the evil of socialist/communist and islam.
Report Post »Obviously you like the trajectory of the progressive movement but all BAD things come to an end eventually and it will come to an end here as well, one way or another. The LEFTS Oppression of free thinkers has nearly run its course and my hope is that it can be pushed back to the obscure fringes of society where it belongs, in a peaceful political way, at the ballot box .
Phoenixsoulfire
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:39pmNo he was a mad man. Simple as that. Although I understand his view point on we are being taken over by muslim and political correctness is allowing it to happen. Plus are so called president.
Report Post »aesaac
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:54pmThe European Union was a bad idea. The elimination of the historic nation states of Europe and their respective cultures and currencies created a bad stew of incompatible ingredients. It was pseydointellectual idea, that denied difference as valid. What took thousands of years to evolve was to be errased with the stroke of a pen – we all possess an alimentary canal, but what goes into it and what comes out of it defines culture. The pan Europeans would have a European culture where the sour kraut of Germany would mix with the bolignase of Italy and the fondue of France – but not quite after a while the smell of curry becomes infuriating and the chanting of the Muzan on an on does not go with the Gregorian chants at Notre Damn. Crap, unrefinement, social primitivism, will prevail by osmotic preasure, the density of dirt being greater than Belgium lace. End the EU it was a naive and failed idea. The Greeks, Turks, Italians, Portuguese and Spanish do not have the same cultural ethics as the Protestant Germans, or the Dutch. Oil and water does not mix, no matter how much you shake it up, eventually oil will separate. You cannot integrate oil and water without enormous force and preasure. Cultural suicide has been the end result. Suicide is very often killing the wrong person. This brings us back to Breivik.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:16pmThe link relates that economist have shown in studies that conflicts between groups historically have had an economic component. No surprise there.
marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2010/09/is-there-any-economic-basis-to-homophobia.html
Oslo is 25% immigrant. That has implications. If the people don’t blend & if they are forever increasing, then that means Norwegian becomes a dead language and Norwegian culture dies. There will still be language(s) and culture in Norway. It will not have any connection to the people that have lived there since the neolithic era.
My take on you is that your despise Christian culture & Orthodox Jewish culture. I believe that you despise ancient world culture (Buddhism, Hinduism, … ) that doesn’t embrace marxism or socialism. So you don’t care what is happening in Norway or elsewhere. You celebrate it, good riddance you say.
When your go onwards from 25% of Oslo being immigrant to 90%, many people believe things become bad. They believe that they will be treated like the Coptic Christians in Egypt. The Copts were there before the coming of Islam. They have every right to be in Egypt. It is the country of their ancestors & has been so without interruption. They have never lived anywhere else. They have very little or no power. Yet they are persecuted.
People see these demographic trends happen in their country. They fear that will happen to them & their children. People are seeing that. You can not
Report Post »Rejlek
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:17pmAnd you are proving my point in an earlier post, you are painting all Christian conservatives with the same brush as this guy. The man may have conservative view points, but he behaved like a leftist progressive, where the ends justifies the means.
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:30pmI don’t think he is a mad man either. Whats more- I agree with his message completely. I disagree with his delivery and method.
He is the minority in his country. Once you get to that point- what are your choices but to assimilate to the NEW culture or fight? Conservatives in this country need to step up efforts to use diplomacy, not violence, to protect the American way of life less we become such the minority that diplomacy has no power.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:15pmThis is exactly what Glenn has been warning against.
Shame on you Butcher. You are playing right into this maniacs hands. By labeling all resisiters of multiculturalism and Ilsamic fascism with the same brush as this man you implicitly agree with him that there is no third option, that one must either accept the progressive option or resists it with bloody violence. You are in fact encouraging those afraid of the loss of Westren freedom to become like this murderer.
Shame, you silly warped fool. And shame on all those here who agree heartily with this voideo and only throw sops of demural about his “methods. This man lost his soul. He has taken the law and the power of war into his own hands and truly acted as judge jury and excecutioner over his own people and society. He has taken on the mantle of God to judge in that capacity. Anyone who flirts with that path will find spiritual destruction and damnation their fate.
If you want to resist the muslim horde then embrace the Christian path. there is no hope in violent Crusade. It cannot work. Christendom cannot be defended that way, until Christendom wakes up. And it will never wake up from the slaughter of its children in the name of defending itself. What did this madman think? That Europe would see the error of its ways by the death of a few children at the hands of the new “Crudsaders”? Did he think THAT would encourage the people to embrace his caiuse?
Report Post »Pigpen
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:30pmOnward Christian Soldiers, huh? Well MRBUTCHER, this actually reminds me of the village of the Deir Yassin by the Lehi group. And it reminds me of THAT massacre for the reasons that YOU mentioned: “[H]e doesn’t appear to be a madman. This was well planned and targeted. He is no Jared Loughner insanly upset over grammer and mind-control. His motives are shared by many.”
Now MRBUTCHER, a finely educated person such as yourself must know all about the Lehi group and the Deir Yassin Massacre, right? Well maybe you should look it up. Because it was a ZIONIST terrorist cell responsible for the assassination of Lord Moyne, the massacre of a village of innocents (including children) in Palestine, and they did many more atrocities all in the name of their cause: a Jewish state in Palestine. Wanna know the punchline? Israel, far from distancing itself from the Lehi group, buried the two assassins of Lord Moyne with full military honors, gave amnesty to Lehi “veterans”, commissioned a military decoration (the Lehi ribbon) to honor former members, and elected Lehi leader Yitzhak Shamir as Prime Minister of Israel in 1983.
But let’s see what Christian Norway does with its “terrorist”. And if fools like you, MRBUTCHER, continue to push us crackers around and singling out our religion as the only source of evil in this world, you will end up opening a box that you won’t be able to close.
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:39pm@Isle- and you are such the Christian calling people names. I am a Christian- read my bible every day. Have read the Q’uran and lived in the Middle East for two years. Lived under Sharia law! I am being truthful about my thoughts and opinions, here. NO SHAME in that, my friend. I do agree with this guys views of Islamization. I disagree with violence unless necessary. Perhaps you do not think we will ever get to that point. I PRAY you are right. But tell me. Will you denounce Christ and convert to Islam should it come to that? Answer honestly.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:44pm@Rejlek
My point is sectarianism is growing amongst Conservitive Christians in America. I’m not painting with a broad brush. Most Conservitive Christians are fine and moral people who are repulsed by such violence but (and this is a BIG “but’) xenophobic, nationalistic and even genocidal elements are gaining traction. Some are becoming more and more radicalized and seeing themselves as Holy Warriors sent by their deity to “defend America and Israel” from immagined boogymen (ie Muslims) who they feel are apart of a global conspiracy spearheaded by International Marxists and Jihadi Muslims with aims to “destroy their country and their religion.” This is feverish delusion at its zenith.
And for you, and so many others, who only take issue with Mr. Breivik’s tactics and not his maniacal view of world affairs shows how much these ideas are spreading.
And if you don‘t see that as a problem then there isn’t much I can say to convince you otherwise.
cheers
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 3:09pm@pigpen
“But let’s see what Christian Norway does with its “terrorist”. And if fools like you, MRBUTCHER, continue to push us crackers around and singling out our religion as the only source of evil in this world, you will end up opening a box that you won’t be able to close.”
It’s a box that needs opening. Bring it on! I’m not singling out Chritianity, I’m just saying it is as capable of the same kind of evil as Islam is and, thus, should be avoided. All religious fundamentalism is a threat to Western Civilization and it must be challanged, scrutinized and defeated!
@Isles
Western Freedom is not in danger of being lost! This is the crack in your logic that allows these sectarian ideas to blossum and really form an idealogy that threatens Western Freedom. Do you really think that pansy multi-culturalism will result in some sort of Sharia Gulag for you and your desendants? If so, what is it you call for to resist this supposed threat? Become a Christian? C’mon!
Ignorance breeds ignorance. Sectarianism is self-generating. A good way to ensure Liberty is to make sure neither takes root. Which is exactly what I’m trying to do here.
cheers
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 3:10pmI will never denounce Christ, Bought your silo. The Muslims can kill me. I do not fear death that much. The Christian warrior does not bear a sword to defend his own life. He bears the love of Christ to defend his soul.
Can Christians resist Islam with violence? Yes, but only as soldiers under the command of worldly rulers. This man was under the authority of no king, no ruler, no state that could authorize him to do these things. Unless the state commands it, for a Christian to kill his enemies is to violate the core of the faith. To kill one‘s enemy is the world’s way, not the Christian’s. If you ever kill another in the name of Christ you are a fool indeed. That is not calling anyone names. It is merely stating a spiritual reality. It is your choice to claim that name or not.
Grow up. Act like a man, but act like a Christian man. You, if you claim to be Christian, should be denouncing this action at the top of your voice because this man has smeared the blood of innocents all over our faith and our cause.
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 3:29pm@mrbutcher
“All religious fundamentalism is a threat to Western Civilization and it must be challanged, scrutinized and defeated!”
There would be no Western Civilization if not for Christianity you dolt! I say this as a non-Christian. To equate Christianity with a few blips on the violence screen( post Crusades ) with the Blood Thirsty Death Cult of islam is a total perversion and you know it. islam was born out of rape ,murder and slavery and those “values” are it mainstays to this very day. You are twisted.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 3:52pmButcher, was Western freedom in danger of being lost under the threat of fascism and then Communism? Many people thought so. How could these threats have become so dangerous? By Western corruption and laziness. Hitler declared that the democratic powers were worms, and he was mostly right.
Western Feedom is not the normal state of affairs if you look at human history.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:19pm@Dratt
You obviously don’t know much about Western Civilization. I give full credit to the influence of Christianity (often, but not always, a negitive influence to be reacted to and not followed, mind you) on WC development but by saying WC was “founded on” Christianity is a gross and misinformed lie on your part. How can you mention Western Civilization and forget about the Greeks and Romans where the ideals of liberty, democratic-republicanism and Natural Rights originated? Everything we value in a free society can be traced back to the Classics and not to Christianity. And forget not Emperor Constantine who, without his conversion, Christianity would have died out along with all the other mystical revealed faiths floating around in the ignorance of 3rd and 4th century Europe and Middle East.
You’re also misinformed about historical Islam. But I won’t waste time explaining that to you. I think I’ve made my point.
cheers
Report Post »kindling
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:25pmI feal like this guy was playing God like what was done to Sodom and Gomorra.
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:27pm@Isle-
First of all, just to clarify, I am a woman.
That said, I am with you. If it comes down to it, the Muslims will have to kill me. I will not denounce Christ. I concur with your statement that we are not to love our lives more than we love Christ. But, it is also human nature to want to preserve your life. Fight to live. I do not worry about dying for my beliefs. I worry about being made to watch my children be tortured in and attempt to make me denounce Christ. Have you read the Islamic Antichrist? Good book and very factual.
Also, to be clear. I NEVER said to kill in the name of Christ. Self defense! Are you against a person defending him/herself? You can read every post that I have made and I am very clear on that. We should work to stop Islamization through diplomacy.
You said, “Shame, you silly warped fool. And shame on all those here who agree heartily with this voideo and only throw sops of demural about his “methods.” You weren’t calling people a fool because they think it is okay to kill in the name of Christ, you were calling us fools because we agreed with the message in the video. And that is what prompted my response to you. My prayer every day is that we do not reach the level of discontent and uncertainty as in Europe. I pray that we get some leaders in this country that actually want to preserve our way of life and the Constitution.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:35pm@Isles
I agree 100%. Western Civilization (free and open societies based on individual rights) hasn’t been the norm. And of course facsism and communism where threats to it in the 20th Century. But this is not a good comparision to modern day.The reductio ad Hitlerium arguement is not valid because it over simplifies.
Here’s some questions:
(a)Who is the Hitler of the 21st Century? (b) Does european-style Social Democracies pose the same threat as Communism once did? (c) Is Islam (a religion with NO structural hierarchy) really covertly trying to invade all western countries via immigration in an effort to overthrow them?
My quick answers
(a) No one (b). I don’t think so. Not an ideal way to run a country but not inherently tyrannical. (c). No. Most Muslims immigrants wish to escape the real tyranny in their homelands only to be meet with suspision and hatred which does radicalize some of its youth. But, yes, there are some who will try to infilrate for nefarious purposes. We have law enforcment and immigration services for this purpose.
What do you think?
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:33pmButcher, there isn’t going to be a Hitler of the 21st century. History never repeats itself exactly. There is no wave of overt fscism taking over the west like there was in the first half of the 20th century. Fscism was riding the wave of progressivism. Communism, socialism and fscism were all aspects of the same dissatisfaction with the ‘imperfections” of traditional liberal democracy. they all wanted governments that would transform society. Add to this mix the forced collapse of a dominant European power and the a world depression and the recipe for Hitler was there.
We don’t have the same conditions that would give rise to a Hitler in THE WEST. But the conditions for a Hitler in the Muslim world are strong.
No, Socialism doesn’t represent the threat that Communism did. Communism was a fast and hard tyranny. Socialism is a slow and soft one. Instaed of chains being forced on us we are bribed into putting them on ourselves. The danger we face is becoming like the victims of the sex trade who are kept drugged so taht they lack the motivation to escape because they need the next fix.
As for Muslims, yes many come here seeking prosperity and freedom. But many Muslims want to use that freedom to make their world here more Muslim. They don’t associate the world they left and all its problems with Islam. But the more Muslim a society becomes the less free it becomes because Islam is antithetical with freedom. Submit, not Grace, is the operative word in Islam.
Report Post »John Campbell
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:38pmIn response to “MRBUTCHER”:
I‘m not taking sides in this just yet and I may not at all based in everything I’m reading here. I do take exception to a number of comments from all posters at this point. The one thing we seem to agree on was this murderous act was wrong and evil. It’s been alleged via the press that this guy had some neo-Nazi affiliation. That, in and of itself, is enough to turn my stomach before any of this happened. That is of course if it’s actually true. Beyond that though, having seen roughly half of that video, I can understand how he would become upset as the images of the first half of the video are shared views by many, but in no way does it justify such an act. At the same time it is in no way a universal condemnation of the political right as leftists would love to present this as. For one thing, contrary to leftists propaganda and their intentional convolution, Naziism is a product of the far left, by definition. Yet we’ve already seen the leftists in the press try to claim otherwise.
As to your earlier posting this is in reply to:
“(a)Who is the Hitler of the 21st Century? (b) Does European-style Social Democracies pose the same threat as Communism once did? (c) Is Islam (a religion with NO structural hierarchy) really covertly trying to invade all western countries via immigration in an effort to overthrow them?
A) We don’t know yet, nor do we know the Lenin. B) Yes, they are fronts and the Labour Party is integral C) If not?
Report Post »Pigpen
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 6:48pmMRBUTCHER, nothing to say in regards to the rest of my post, though, huh? Nothing to say about the Lehi group?
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 7:33pm@ MSBUTCHER
I didn’t see your response till later .I have a life outside THE BLAZE.I’m not paid to be here as I suspect you are.
Like most liberals you twist my words ,I never said WC was founded on Christianity ,then proceeded to call me a liar over something I never said . My Quote was “ there would be no WC if not for Christianity”. Then you go on about the Greeks & Romans and their contributions to “liberty, democratic-republicanism” in WC which was never in dispute. Don’t create a straw man then attack it. It is a favorite tactic of your ilk and I’m not impressed.
As for islam it’s a gutter Religion of hate ,where you find islam you find poverty,oppression,intolerance,rape,slavery and mass murder on a regular basis and I won‘t waste MY time trying to explaining that to YOU because it’s in the news every single day. I think I’ve made my point. Paid Troll.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 7:48pm“you were calling us fools because we agreed with the message in the video. ”
That is not true. I myself agreed with the video, but my agreement in no way diminished my horror at the murder that was committed, In fact in increased it. My problem is with those who only voiced token disapproval of the killings, as if the deaths were not as important as the greater warning against cultureal Marxism and islamofascism. This shows a lack of compassion and moral seriousness. Murder like this should be met with outrage and deep sadness, not with, “Yes, but he was right about the threat, blah blah blah”. No one will care, and that itself should outrage all those who want to defend our freedom. Some people here are acting as if Breivik’s message can serve a useful purpose. It can’t. No one will listen to this and NOT associate his message with that of a mad man.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:29pm@everyone
We are arguing too many things at once.
Let me get back to my initial point and try to put it another way.
There are many on the Christian Right in America who misinterpret world events. And that misinterpretation is the prime cause of what they fear (ie Socialism and Islam and their, supposed, joint conspiracy to over-throw capitalism and America and enslave all humanity in some eco-friendly Sharia Gulag.) There is an echo-chamber of perceived slights, attacks and insults that is used to encourage this misconception. You can see it here, on Breitbart, the Daily Caller and even the stalwart National Review Online comment sections. It hasn’t yet grown to a point where any one will say it publicly, though.
This grand misconception is provoking a response that is equally threatening.—Let me stop here to say that conservitism, by nature, questions and inquires into any and all popular uprisings with skeptisism. Which it normally does and does very well.—-
Now, this misconception when coupled with religious fervor, nationalism and economic distress is a recipe for true disaster and tyranny. If any comparisions are to be made to WW2 and the horrors of the 20th century this is where they should be made.
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What Norway shows us is the danger inherent in Christian Nationalist reactionism is also the same as Jihadism.
But there still remains a choice. This hasn’t gotten to a point where it is beyond repair or refute.
This is whe
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:32pm@ THEBUTCHER
I came back to take a look and I see you have been at it again but without answering my response .
“And that misinterpretation is the prime cause of what they fear (ie Socialism and Islam and their, supposed, joint conspiracy to over-throw capitalism and America and enslave all humanity ”
It need not be a joint conspiracy when it is the Natural Inclination of EVIL to want to DESTROY what is GOOD. The Enemy of my Enemy is my Ally, hence the unholy alliance of progressive/socialist/communist and islam .That evil ,separately has killed and oppressed hundreds of millions of human beings throughout history,the combination of the two is truly worth fearing and stopping. I won’t argue that 10s of thousands have been oppressed and killed by the perversion of Christianity but we know it is a drop in the bucket in comparison to the former.
Using words like “misinterpretation,perceived slights ,misconception” are meant to be condescending and invalidate conservative viewpoints but as I said in an earlier retort I’m not impressed with you. You are probably paid to lurk here.
What you want from us is apathy ,it is much easier for you and your kind to control us if you can cow us by calling us intolerant or racist or sexist or homophobic or islamaphobic.The same ploy your kind use to turn Israel and the world against itself .When attacked and Israel responds they are the terrorist ,how dare they defend themselves.
We will NOT go back to sleep.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:07pm@Dratt.
What was that?
You’re sure not asleep. Drunk? Maybe. But not asleep.
By all means, be awake. Stand for good. Fight evil. Fight apathy. blah blah blah
But also be aware that you are just as capable of inflicting evil when you mean to be good.
If you want to call that a “strawman” argument feel free.
cheers
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:00pm@Isle- I don’t know why you are arguing with me, sounds like we are on the same page for the most part. I agree that what this guy did was awful. As a mother of three children, I can’t imagine the horror that the parents are going through. That said, these people support everything abhor.
Perhaps its just me being naive, but I am ABSOLUTELY stunned at the amount of support that Islamic nations receive in a post 9/11 world. They should be shunned from the 4-corners but are glorified instead. The Norway people are against Israel. They think that Israel should go back to the 1967 borders which would amount to utter destruction for the Israelis. And given the fact that the last time no one stood for Israel nearly 6-million Jews were slaughtered, my earlier comments offers the appropriate amount of commiseration for the victims of Norway.
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:14pm@ MRBUTCHER
Report Post »I’ve enjoyed this debate . By the way the only thing I want to inflict on you or any progressive is an ass whipping at the polls in 2012.
SFsuper49er
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 12:43amI knew someone would bring up Glenn or GBTV… Glenn has been talking and trying to teach us about this problem for years but he clearly tells us to be Nonviolent! , Nonviolent!, Nonviolent … GBTV is going to be the best learning platform ever out there for the truth. Now!. Get the fart out of your brain and listen…
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 11:30amDratt, I’m not a progressive.
I, too, share your wish to defeat Obama in ‘12.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:02pmWhen the demographics of Isam reaches a proportionate number…be ready to convert or it will be “off with your head.” So get ready to bow down and meet Jesus, or bow down to allah and kiss muslim a$$. Either way, you will meet Jesus one day.
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:00pmActually a pretty powerful video . A great many truths may be revealed to those who don’t know what is really going on in Europe and around the world. This will open some eyes even if we find what he did to be objectionable.
Report Post »Blacktooth
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:11pmAnders Behring Breivik lost his moral focus and allowed himself be consumed by fear and hate of very real enemies.
Report Post »His unbalanced focus turned to unreasonable actions toward a minor enemy instead of his real enemy.
drattastic
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:41pmWithout the progressive/socialist/communist enablers of the world then islam can’t maintain a foothold in the WEST .Therefor it is a symbiotic relationship forged in hell. So who do you consider the minor enemy
Report Post »Vachagan
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:53pmI wish this young man never did what he did. I watched the video and started to read his manifesto . Nothing I can disagree with, except for his violence. Lives are lost, his at least 25 years are going to be spent in jail… Sad. He could be more useful in a peaceful way.
Report Post »West is in trouble and we must take drastic measures PEACEFULLY, implementing laws that limit the encroachment of Islam and Marxism. You can not debate with violent ideologies. You need to defend yourself, first peacefully and if you meet violence, you need to punish the intruder with the lawful force.
NOBALONEY
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:02pmLike Timothy Mcveigh he turned his anger towards his own people, especially innocent children at the indoctranation camp. and the bombs added to the total of 92 killed. Glenn Beck has always warned that the extreme right and left are all about killing and destruction. We must rely and believe in God’s Grace, and to stand for what is good, and always do the right thing.
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:34pm@Drat- I was going to say the same thing: powerful indeed.
Report Post »redyanqui
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:53pmdo some of you people actually realize what you are saying is exactly like what this guy says? and that doesnt bother you all at all?
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:10pm@RED
His message was powerful. Are you denying that? As I have stated before, I agree with him. I do not agree with his method. That said, I am not in his shoes. I do not know how bad the Islamization has gotten over there. I think we all have a breaking point as to how much change we will accept. My breaking point just happens to be Islam. I lived under it for two years while living in the Middle East. We committed financial suicide just to get away from it. I won’t live under it again and definitely not here. So, I do believe this has to be fought. But- through diplomacy. Once you get to the point that you feel violence is your only course of action, its too late.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 3:22pm“This will open some eyes even if we find what he did to be objectionable.
Objectionable. OBJECTIOANBLE?!!! That videeo resonated with me and my mind looking on it in isolation saw how true it was, but my sould kept screaming that it was covered in the blood of innocents. What this man did is MORE than “objectionable”. It is horrific. It is a desecration of all humanity. Who is going to look at that video and NOT think of him systematically executing 85 children in cold blood? Who will give it the time of day who isn’t already convinced of its message? This video will convince NO ONE!! It will succeed only at truning people away from hearing its message. NOW, we will have to work overtime, double and triple time to overcome the stain this man has put upon us.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 3:29pmHave you considered, drattastic, that your avatar is the perect symbol for Anders Behring Breivik? If Lucas was making the prequels today, and had an ounce of dramatic creativity, he would need to look no further than him to model a man falling to the dark side. You cannot hate people and love God at the same time. You can hate evil, but you cannot hate people. Breivik rejected love in his crusade and became a monster. If we admire him even a little we do so at our peril.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:54pm@Isles
You are truly conflicted over this matter.
That was one of the most heart-felt and wrenching posts I’ve read on this thread.
But allow me to alert you to the fact that emotionalism seldom leads to anything sane and good.
But I understand your turmoil nonetheless.
I wish we could talk one-on-one.
cheers
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 5:52am“emotionalism seldom leads to anything sane and good.”
As a committed intellectual I heartily agree about the dangers of emotionalism, Butcher. Emotions and passions must always be put under the bar of reason. However, to cut one’s self off from emotions can lead to some very cold calculations, the kind Breivik was making at the end. To put it simply: It is dangerous not to feel in your gut what you believe in your mind, or not to understand with your mind what you are feeling in your gut.
Report Post »Dont-hate-on-me-2
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:59amI support fighting these radical terrorist but i do not belive in killing innocent civilians in the process. In war yes sometimes innocent people get hurt or killed but thats the cost of the fight , it is unaviodable. After hearing that you belive Isreal is an occupying state of Palastein land i will no longer support your country. i will not buy ant product made in Norway nor any product that has its roots thier. You have supported terrorist and you are getting what you deserve, Gods wrath will be much worse for you. when your people are hell dont come crying to the Americans to pull you out.You deserve to burn (the leaders of the country ofc and those who support them in this matter)
Report Post »Pissed off American
Godfather.1
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 3:36pmLearn to spell @$$hole!!!
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:14pmDon’tHateOnMe.. I agree. What has happened in Norway has illuminated it and other countries who are slilding into the cesspool of islam/communism/socialism. It‘s not the children’s fault that they have been indoctrinated. We can thank the new world order..”bilk, hilary, O and Soros for that. It is a consuming cancer, but it is phophesied. Remember the anti-christ and his minions? I don’t believe that we can stop it, but we must pray for the peace of Israel. God will take care of the rest.
Report Post »Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:59amBerserker- A scandanavian term defining irrational, violent behavior to a stressful situation.
Report Post »Norway’s traditional heritage has been under severe assault for the past few years. Both internally and internationally. There, much as here, history is being changed before the citizens eyes.
Another McViegh?
It woild be interesting to know what dynamics are at work in this man’s world- no?
drattastic
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:09pmI don’t think I would label him a “Berserker” ,seems it was a well thought out plan that was executed to perfection.
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:55pmI, myself, can’t put this guy into the same camp as McVeigh. This is probably because I disagree with his point of view. I do not like the government getting involved as much as it does. But what happened in Waco was the fault of David Koresh.
Report Post »SYNJUNSMYTHE
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:58amAnders was correct about Supporingt the Resistance unfortunately the NWO GOON crowd has found another nut job to blame and make an example of so you and I will distance ourselves from any Christian movement __i—- – – -
Report Post »Blacktooth
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:57amRevelation 12:12
Can there be any doubt that the world is under the control of Satan? – 1 John 5:19
Report Post »Greenwood
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:42pmYes ….the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one
Report Post »Old Truckers
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:44pmThat is so obvious considering the pain, rage, and confusion of the people of the earth.
Report Post »wild72
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:55am”Infidel Revolution” He was correct! It’s time to wake up people, what is happening in Europe is also happening here. We need to take back our country and push out the invaders(Obama). We have all stood by for far to long and done nothing. You can call me what u want but I am armed and ready. We will rise up and crush these marxist, Islamic fools once and for all. ”Infidel Revolution”
Report Post »anchoorite
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:01pmGlad to see you found yourself a new hero. Does it matter that he’s a cold blooded mass murderer?
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:59pmIt all comes down to just one question. How much do you love your life?
Report Post »Questionthefacts
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:54amIs anyone other than me wondering how it is that the Norwegian can get all the answers to the questions about the bomb making materials, how many suspects, etc. It’s odd that in the U.S. after any type of bombing, etc., it takes WEEKS to find out howi the explosive was delivered, what was the content of the material, etc. They have automatically branded the guy white, christian, right wing. It just seems that have ALL the answers WAY too quickly. When I see this kind of response again especially from the media we need to start asking questions. I am not trying to take lightly what has happened and my prayers are with the people of Norway but it’s looking way to convenient.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:37pmConsider this:
Let’s remember that the Jewish Media falsely portrayed the radical leftist Jared Laughner, who is Jewish, as a “extreme right-winger” and “anti-Semite.” They portrayed the militant self-described “anti-racist,” bisexual, cross dressing Columbine killers (one of whom was Jewish) as “right-wingers” and “neo-Nazis.” So it was predictable that the Jewish Media would have a field day with Anders Breivik.
The Media is simply lying when it calls Breivik a “nationalist,” right-winger,“ ”fundamentalist Christian,“ ”White Supremecist,“ ”White Nationalist,“ and of course ”Neo-Nazi.” None of these are even close to being accurate. The Media is even using a Facebook profile that was made AFTER the killers name was released and is an obvious fake.
It appears that Breivik may have actually been the Norwegian equivalent of an American “Neo-Con.“ On his favorite website he even denounced the excellent Flemish party Vlaams Belang as ”racist,” and anti-gay. lol
Breivik said all “cultural conservatives,” including the English Defense League and the American TEA Party movement, need to adopt three things to be on his “level.“ The three attributes that Breivik said they need to adopt is being ”anti-racist,“ ”pro-gay,“ and ”pro-Israel.” Sounds a lot like the typical Neo-Conservative found on FOX News or the Blaze site doesn’t it? Maybe he’s a Zionist doing the work of the Mossad? Certainly possi
Report Post »alfredo090
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:53amnice article
Report Post »thecrow
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:52amDutch demolitions engineer Danny Jowenko–who when shown the fall of WTC7 for the first time declared it to be without doubt a controlled demolition and stood by that judgement to the end–was recently killed in a head-on collision with a tree.
http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2011/07/11/wrecking-ball/
Report Post »String Bean
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:00pmAt first glance I thought your name was THECOW and then after I went to the moronic Truther sites you poster I thought THECOW was Rosie O’donnell.
WHAT CRAP YOU PEOPLE VOMIT !
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:51pmThat only proves he was as bad at driving as he was at engineering.
Report Post »popeyebedford
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:52amAside from this fellow’s misguided killing of his own innocents,
and the destruction of a huge building containing government
offices, his beef is spot on. Too bad that the information will be
tainted by the killing…We all can see the Marxism here in the USA
and the Muslims pushing their agenda with killings in the same way…
PS … This fellow has spotlighted a serious serious problem for free people everywhere
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:26pmAnd my concern is people will not listen to his message (which is true) because they will associate it with the rant of right-wing conservative nut job. What’s more, the TSA NOW has a valid point to treat blond haired, blued eyed Caucasians as potential terrorists.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 3:40pm“Aside from this fellow’s misguided killing of his own innocents, and the destruction of a huge building containing government offices, his beef is spot on.”
“Apart from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?”
Report Post »Some understatements are almost comical, except for the tragedy.
Islesfordian
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 3:55pm“This fellow has spotlighted a serious serious problem for free people everywhere”
I disagree. He hasn’t spotlighted it. He has covered it with a blood soaked blanket.
Report Post »mrpips
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:52amAnother victim of MKULTRA. A few days before this happened our DHS just happens to release a video saying that white Americans are most likely to be terrorists because of their hatred of Islam, then this guy kills a bunch of……..well, liberals, but because he hates Islam? Nice coincidence.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:46amI guess that renders the following story moot, even if it’s right.
Who Added “Christian” and “Conservative” to Norway Shooter’s Facebook Page Yesterday?
Report Post »http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/07/who-added-christian-and-conservative-to-norway-shooters-facebook-page-yesterday.html
A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:51amHaving said that, this man’s fears about Marxism and Multiculturalism are well-founded, and a readiness to forcefully defend yourself and your country from violations of individual inalienable rights is necessary, as this guy understood.
But why kill or punish people who aren’t violating your individual inalienable rights? He was misguided in this.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 3:35pmYou cannot forcefully defend your country if your country is in opposition to it own defense. It can’t be done. It has NEVER been done. You will fail, and waste your chance to defend what you COULD have defended. The only way to wake a country our culture up is to sacrifice yourself in its defense. Self-sacrifice, not the slaughter of your enemies, is a witness that all people will recognize.
Do not kill for your country if it doesn’t call you to fight. DIE for your country. That is our mission, if bad comes to worse.
Report Post »attitudijudi
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:44amFirst let me say this guy is a mad man, plain and simple. Second, I have said for years the U.S. was turning into a multicultural country and no longer a melting pot. People that come here from the Middle East countries do not melt into our way of life. They keep their own cultures and somehow we became politically correct not to offend. (Law suits). This refers to any foreign culture in our country and Europe is becoming the same way. Foreigners living here from others countries need to adjust to our culture. This is why America is so great. It is our culture.
Report Post »JUSTDOUGIE
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:11pmWell spoken.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:30pmYou are right, he was a mad man. There are a lot of mad people who are being pushed into a government that they did not and do not want. What is happening there is happening here. If you are a Christian, prepare to be martyred. We are going into slavery. The indoctrination runs deep, from our own government to our schools and colleges. Soon, the only ones who have known freedom will be gone. America is not what it once was. She is quickly becoming a third world country . As Christians, we are commanded to be good slaves,although it is not in our nature, we are commanded to love our captors.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:19pm“Melting pot” doesn’t mean “assimilate.” It means adding cultures together to make a new fabric.
Report Post »Grayzel
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:32amIn a story written in the Norwegian press, Anders Behring Breivik, was called right-wing and compared him to Tim McVeigh. The next sentence said he attempted to join an anti-immigration group but was turned down. Why, because they thought he was an neo-Nazi. It is just a matter of preconditioning. The collective mind of the press have been taught that the National Socialist Party is right-wing and no amount of facts can turn them away from their error in logic or truth. I suppose to Marxists, socialists are right-wing. Anders belonged to the Progress Party, clearly the name of a conservative TEA party like group.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:54pmWatching you and others trying to paint the EXACT ideology that the far right-wingers espouse (read other posts in here) as “left” or “progressive” would be a riot if this all didn’t culminate in such a HUGE tragedy. Weak try.
Report Post »SPOT_OF_TEA
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:24amI wonder if John Kerry is going to call this guy a nuisance….the term which he has referred to all the other terrorists in the past10 years.
Report Post »cloudsofwar
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:22amyou know, it’s sad what happen in norway but we have our own problems.
Report Post »mossbrain
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:16amI agree with his message, only time will tell if his brutality will galvanize action to drive the Muslims out of normal humans civilizations.
Report Post »thecrow
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:16amAnd this video was posted before Barry Jennings’ unexplained death:
http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/barry-jennings-speaks/
Report Post »thecrow
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:12amhttp://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/thepassion/
Report Post »NSDQ
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:11amAnd so he shot 80 children to prove his point, that bastard is everything he hates
Report Post »ConservativeFirst
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 3:24pmAmen!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »lovenfl3
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:09amAmazing how this is being reported in the liberal media. First I heard it was Israel’s fault, then a right wing nut, now he’s Oklahoma City. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtwXCyZCPqM
Report Post »thecrow
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:13amhttp://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/valor/
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:19amThat is all they got, their play book reads, lie, get caught, change lie, ignore all questions about why they changed from old like, get caught, change lie, ignore all questions about old lies, deny they ever existed, when shown tapes showing old lies, lie say they are doctored, repeat……
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 3:48pmNo, it’s been consistent: Right-wing extremist, fire-arm obsessed, islamophobe with a bitter hatred of multiculturalism and of (insert “illegal aliens”) Somali immigrants who get gov’t benefits and send money home to their Muslim families. (Sound familiar?)
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:33pmI do not for one moment believe this is true, but..If I were a concience-free marxist or jihadist for whom the ends justified all means, and I wanted to keep people from understanding the threat my side posed, I would pretend to be one warning against us and kill people just like this so that people would then dismiss all others would made similar warnings.
It would be a form of false flag.
Again, that was NOT Breivik’s intention, but it certainly will be his effect.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:00pmIslesfordian Posted on July 22, 2011 at 4:15pm
So, Don’t Tread, you first criticize others for making the obvious, and CORRECT, conclusion that it was Muslim Terrorists. THEN, when the facts come out you dismiss its importance by citing an early low death count, when the toll is continually rising as they find more bodies, and ignoring the fact that it was coordinated with another attack on a island youth gathering.
You are an appeasing dipsh*t. I’m sure they will cut your head off last.
Just sayin ISLES
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Posted on July 24, 2011 at 7:26pmYes tifosa, I and many others were mistaken in thinking that this was a jihaist attack. But I make no apology for such an assumption, as Jihadists have made no secret of their desire to make such attacks and the majority of violent attacks and plots are by Muslims. In fact, attacks like this one are notable for their rarity. Only Oklahoma City and this event occur to me as examples. Can you think of others? To act as if a non-Muslim terrorist is anything like an equal probability with a muslim terrorist, given the statistics is irrational. So to criticize others for assuming what logic would see as an entirely reasonable probability is what I found and still find as foolish.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 8:37pmISLES, there are TONS of examples: even if you don’t include Loughner, who spewed the language of the Sovereign Citizens, there are: Poplawski, Byron Williams, Adkisson, TDJohnson, Roeder, VonBrunn, Eric Robert Rudolph, Shawna Forde, McVeigh and Nichols, the Kanes, JP Franklin, Many more. If you don’t know, you haven’t looked.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 8:41pmIn fact, the frequency of Muslim violence pales in comparison. Maybe not where YOU are looking though.
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