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See These Leftist Christians Party With ‘Beers & Hymns,’ Praise Occupy & Tout ‘Social Justice’ During the Wild Goose Festival

Last year, The Blaze told you about the Wild Goose Festival, a new-found music, arts and celebratory event with a left-of-center focus. The multi-day event, which drew thousands, was a rallying point for America’s Christian left. This year, the event commenced once again — and with some intriguing statements and activities worth noting.

From June 21-24, Pastor Jim Wallis, among other liberal faith leaders, descended upon Shakori Hills, North Carolina, to tout “justice and spirituality,” to talk up Occupy and to engage in praise and worship practices that would make some more conservative Christians uncomfortable, to say the least.

Wild Goose Festival Features Beer & Hymns, Jim Wallis, Occupy & More

Naturally, the annual event continues to embrace the “social justice” mantra, while seeking to market Christianity in a more favorable light. According to the event’s “about us” page, “many people perceive and experience Christianity to be divisive, prejudiced, sometimes even violent, and often full of guilt.” Instead, those behind the festival want to see the faith be a “life-giving source for the common good.”

(Related: Rev. Jim Wallis & Progressive Christian Friends Party Down at Left-Winged ‘Wild Goose Festival’)

This all seems very general of course and the speakers and performers attending the event likely have different views on some more contentious issues like gay marriage and abortion. Still, the leftist streak is evident, particularly when it comes to economic issues (but there’s plenty of social liberalism embedded there as well).

Here’s a video that advertises many of the progressive names who ended up speaking and performing at the event:

Of course, the Occupy movement, which has dominated headlines in both 2011 and 2012, was a focus of conversation at the event. Interestingly, a series of clips featuring Wallis and other leftist leaders has emerged in which each individual offers praise for Occupy’s efforts.

“The Occupy movement has, I think, created space…for a new conversation about inequality and that has been its great contribution,” Wallis said in a clip captured last week at the event. “While it’s not a religious movement, there’s a deep openness that I found. Jesus is actually very popular at Occupy.”

Watch Wallis discuss the so-called movement of the 99 percent, below:

Then there’s Frank Schaeffer, the far-leftist son of theologian Frances Schaefer (he has had plenty of unsavory things to say about the Christian right in the past, as noted previously on The Blaze). In his interview about Occupy, Schaeffer claims that President Barack Obama is sympathetic to the poor, while Republicans are “the party of Wall Street.” He also said that it is a Christian’s duty to explore Occupy’s tenets.

“Occupy Wall Street is a movement that is a duty to participate in, to support, for the reasons that it states of standing up for the 99 percent and asking questions but also to help the Obama administration to do what it what like to do…,” Schaeffer proclaims.

Here are his comments, below:

And Lisa Harper, Sojourners’ director for mobilizing (who yesterday overtly praised the Supreme Court’s health care ruling), also weighed in. Here’s her supportive commentary on the Occupy movement:

Oh and be sure not to miss the “beer and hymns” performance, during which Wild Goose Festival participants apparently drank alcohol en masse, while singing praise and worship songs. Sojourners explains the background:

Here’s an example: Throughout the weekend, Fullsteam, a craft brewery in nearby Durham owned by an alumnus of Wheaton College (yes, that Wheaton) sold selling beer to quench the thirst of Goosers during late night sessions and performances (a la Homebrewed Christianity, etc.). And on Saturday afternoon — call it an early evening happy hour — a group of rag-tag musicians, armed with a few folk instruments, a trumpet and percussion, led a jolly crowd of more than 100 in Sunday School choruses and old-timey spirituals. They called it, “Beer and Hymns.”

There, caught up in a holy wind of hops and hope, we reimagined what church might be during an ad hoc version of “He’s got the Whole World in His Hands.” We the motley worshippers alternated “He’s got the whole world” with “She’s got the whole world,” proudly singing at the top of our lungs, “She’s got the liberals and conservatives / the gays and straights / and a big ole mug of beer/ in her hands.”

Watch it for yourself, below:

In the end, the mission of the Wild Goose Festival seems clear based on those who embrace it. It’s a festival for the Christian left and one that possesses sentiments that the majority of evangelicals (who tend to skew conservative) wouldn’t embrace.

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  • thegreatcarnac
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:52am

    These leftist are fake Christians and are mockers of God. They will be punished in God’s own time. These (so called) churches are shrinking in number. They are really Godless meeting places. Instead of getting closer to God and Christ in their teachings and their acts, they try to get more members by acting more and more like the world in their very sanctuaries. They are lost and sickening. Leftist are not Christians.

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    • rickc34
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:32pm

      and they will say Lord Lord did we not do wonderful works in your name and the Lord will say begone from me you workers of iniquity I NEVER KNEW YOU.

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    • mtcountrygrl
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:07pm

      @ Rick
      I was going to quote that same verse. Just because you call yourself a Christian, does not mean you know Jesus! I can call myself a bird, but it does not mean I can fly.

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  • OneTermPresident
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:40am

    These are the people who don’t read their own Bibles… much like false prophets. Leave it to the Left.

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    • G-WHIZ
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:07pm

      They pass MASSVE bills w/o reading them…what makes you think they’d read a bible??

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  • JRook
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:19am

    A testimony of how evangelicals believe, pun intended, that they are real Christians as opposed to the vast majority of the world that are just plain old Christians. No confusion about where the author of the report sits on the scale. Obviously a true believer and one of the chosen. And people wonder what drives the divisions in the world.

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:00pm

      Somehow, I seriously doubt that you are qualified to comment on what makes up Christianity. You see it through a secular view…That view is clueless as to what a Christian is.

      It is not a name you just take on yourself. It is a personal relationship with your Savior.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:13pm

      You are correct Trolltrainer, he is not qualified.

      Rook subscribes to the theory that no wrong is committed when a baby is aborted………..simply because the SCOTUS said so.

      He is morally bankrupt.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:16pm

      Edit: Should have said……simply because the SCOTUS said it is legal.

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    • HowardSternIsABigot
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:56pm

      jrook is a MOBY. new word for today, have to use it 14 more times.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 2:40pm

      @Howard

      I had to look that one up.

      And you are correct…… a MOBY he is.

      :o)

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    • DiscipleMaker
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 4:09pm

      Hey Troll…just remember what Paul said in 1 Corinthians 1:18-19: “For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written: “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, And bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.””

      Unless the Holy Spirit moves in someone, the Gospel is foolishness. People see these loons who make the claim to be Christians, but James was real clear, you can say you’re a christian, but I‘ll show you I’m one by how I act…just like you can say you’re a marathon runner, but if you can‘t get up off the couch I’m not believing it.

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  • Hickory
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:54am

    Hey look! The preacher is getting it own with the coral teacher. I think she is even singing. My, my they are sooooo happy. They did this at OWS you know.

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  • live-free-or-die-trying
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:49am

    We can pray that it is a step for many to worship the LORD! As we worship him, we become convicted of our sin and how he wants us to be! Then we learn truly of His great love and patience. We fall flat our face and cry humble tears of joy. May this be a step in that direction for all at the Wild Goose Festival! Even if one is saved….let YOUR will be done Lord! What man creates with evil in his heart, God can use for his GLORY! Let’s pray for that!

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  • RestoreCapitalism
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:45am

    Leftists are not followers of Jesus Christ. They are wolves in sheep’s clothing. It is a strategic masquerade. The Bible is the source of our conservative principles, and marxism is not compatible with Christianity. True Christians are conservative because of their Biblical world view, the only exception is those who are so naive as to be duped into liberal thinking, but since they are deceived, they aren’t walking in the light of God, and whether they are even true Christians, remains to be seen. As for these, they are clearly wolves, and it’s quite apparent by the fruits on the tree, because true Christians don’t delight in evil like Wallace and his ilk.

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    • BOUNCESoff
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:09am

      You are not God. Stop pretending to be. No one says anything when the Far Right Wing Christians praise jesus while holding rifles and shooting animals down in cold blood do they. You do not know what is in a person heart. And God does not see people based on their party affiliation.

      Where do they get these people.

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    • trurl
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:44am

      @bounces
      I have been a “right-wing” christian since the seventies. I have been a worship leader for over a decade. I have been to numerous Christian concerts ranging from Larry Norman to Third Day. I have yet to see anybody “praise jesus while holding rifles and shooting animals down in cold blood”. It’s amazing to me how the left fights ACTUAL VIDEO EVIDENCE of their debauchery and un-Godliness with unsubstantiated wild claims about the other side that they never have ANY evidence for nor can confirm in any way. The Wild Goose festival looks more like a Saturnalia celebration to me. Absolutely no reverence for our God and King, Creator of the Universe. The scripture says the “FEAR of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.” I see no fear here. No respect for His holiness, righteousness and His position as the Judge of us all. No, I see these partiers shouting out what they think He (or in some of their views, SHE!!!) would do… Well, have another beer, of course!! Christian left? The ultimate oxymoron!

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    • FFTyranny
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:46am

      @BOUNCESoff

      Yes, where did you come from?

      If you were a good follower of the Lord and have read and understood the Bible. You would know that the lord placed the animals on this beautiful word he created for use to harvest. And for you to claim that people who hunt are far right extremist shows how of an extremist you are and ignorant.

      Don’t pretend to be someone you are not. Read the Bible, study it and then you can make intelligent statements.

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  • cassandra
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:44am

    I can’t stand to look at Jim”s face he has perverted the bible

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:31am

    Lets’ all get drunk and worship God. Bunch of loons.

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  • venerablebede
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:16am

    Something is missing here, oh yeah, the Golden Calf.

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    • barber2
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:50am

      GOOD ONE. And where are the belly dancers? No belly dancers ?

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    • Sumrknght
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:18am

      Actually there WERE belly dancers… not here at this function but at the Supreme Court yesterday “West Virginia Belly Dancers for single pay” So if we can go ahead and find the golden calf… that pretty much puts us right on schedule for that doomsday event coming up in December, right? (it seems to make sense because after Obama loses the election… he may just be depressed enough to go ahead and press the button)

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:24am

      They are full of BS. This is a movement determined to destroy belief in God and bring down all religions. They are doing this by lies and untruths.

      Social Justice? Here’s what the masterful Thomas Sowell says on that: http://bit.ly/LUIFzf

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    • G-WHIZ
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:11pm

      Also, one can bendover for his/her “golden goose”. Sounds like a division of OWS.

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  • Daveed
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:04am

    There is no such thing as Leftist’s Christian. You can not be both. They are just mocking Christianity and Christ. It is Blasphemous. When I hear about this stuff, it reminds me when they mocked Jesus on the Cross. The Devil thinks it’s funny.

    Christians do need to get their houses in order. Choose this day whom you will serve. God or man?

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:10am

      When we became Christians we became conservative republicans…it took a year or two of bible study but yeah I don’t know how a lefty could be a Christian…but that is between them and God.

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    • Daveed
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:20am

      Christ died for everyone while we were yet sinners. How awesome is HIS LOVE? HE changes from the inside out. Where Progressive Godless Communist force it down your throats and shoot you or the Islams force it down your throat and behead you. Try to change you from the outside through force, coercion and the end of a gun or head lopper. Take your pick.

      God will not be mocked. I am not a Republican, they left me a long long time ago. Progressive’s Godless Communist ideology comes from the pit of hell. They are the enemy to Freedom, love, Christ, America and the rest of the world. As Clinton says, it is what it is. It depends on your defination of what “is” is. When Hillary asked him is he doing the Intern. Clinton‘s response must have been in reponse to Hillary’s query, “It depends on what your definition of ”is” is.” Would Bill like a President doing that to his daughter? I wouldn’t.

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  • schroeder123
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:55am

    Christ drank a little wine.

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    • hi
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:57am

      I sat in on a seminary class. The teacher explained to us that back in Christ’s day, there was so very little alcohol content.
      The guys in the article drink a lot of alcohol!

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    • snooop1e
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:50am

      @HI – According to scripture;. Genesis 9:21 says that Noah drank yayin excessively and became drunk. Lot also became drunk on this beverage (Gen. 19:30-36), and so did Nabal (1 Sam. 25:36). Nevertheless, God told his people to enjoy yayin at the yearly festivals (Deut. 14:26). In addition to using wine as a beverage, God also commanded the Levitical priests to include in the sacrifices a portion of wine (yayin) as a drink offering (Ex. 29:40). These scriptures make it clear that there can be a right and a wrong use of wine. Naturally fermented wine is between 10 percent and 14 percent alcohol. Higher alcoholic wines are fortified wines. On such special occasions God even allowed use of what is translated as “strong drink.” This term comes from a different Hebrew word—shekar—which is used 22 times in the Old Testament, and refers to alcoholic drinks made from dates and other fruit. Also in 1 Cor 11:21 Paul warned the Disciples that when they were meeting for the Lords Supper some were getting drunk. Paul told the Corinthians to “put away from among yourselves” a person who cannot control his or her drinking (1 Cor. 5:11-13) There are many Bible verses that warn against drunkeness and being a drunkard and lastly the Jews accused Jesus of being a drunkard. Clearly the wine they were drinking had enough alcohol to make them drunk. Peace in Christ.

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    • DanMan2012
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:50am

      Yea right! That ‘s the concierge at Cana was amazed as to why they would serve the good stuff after everyone was liquor’d up when Jesus turned the water into wine.

      Somebody told you a tall tail buddy!

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:10pm

      The Jews were a grape growing, wine culture, there was even a carving of a vine on the Temple door. Jesus gave the vine discourse. They made good wine, they knew what they were doing when it came to wine.

      Temperance and prohibition clouded late 19th and 20th century American theological views on this. I understand the aversion great thinkers like J. Vernon McGee had to envisioning Jesus creating alcohol, but He did. We are not to be drunken, but the drinking of alcohol is only prohibited in a single OT verse, proverbs I believe, and the actual interpretation is probably warning against drunkenness.

      That said, as a Baptist I do not drink. It offends many of my brothers and I feel I am better for not indulging. However, I point no fingers at those who do.

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    • DiscipleMaker
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 4:54pm

      @ Snoopie-

      You could have summed that up real quick with 1 Corinthians 6:9-10: “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.”

      @ Troll-

      Amen! Drinking in and of itself is not a sin. Getting drunk is. And you should not abstain because it ‘offends’ someone else. But if it makes someone else stumble…i.e. they see you drinking one beer at a restaurant and think drinking is ok and go down a 12 pack…that isn’t ok. That’s why I abstain, as to not cause confusion on where I stand or even have to defend myself. I defend myself by not drinking at all, but also don’t jump to conclusions if I see someone else drinking a beer.

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  • cookcountypatriot
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:54am

    know jesus know peace..no jesus no peace…its that clear…jesus himself said the road is narrow…..along comes obama and this character wallace and we have a new road…made up of reprobates and the evil spirit of beligerance……they may call themselves christians and they may say they know christ….but like all of us they fall short….until christians understand eph 6;12….for our struggle is not against flesh and blood,but against the rulers, against the authorities,against the powers of this present darkness and against the spritual forces of evil in the heavenly realm…

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    • brother_ed
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 12:36pm

      @LAINAB

      I think your right on.

      See you at Restoring Love!

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  • lainab
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:36am

    I go to church with a “hippy” couple who went to this festival… And, while I am a proud Libertarian who often disagrees with the way they see things, I must appreciate the heart and passion they have for people and to see the world become a better place. I don’t agree with them on HOW we should get there, but I respect this young couple because they live out the very gospel they preach — the husband drives a huge van around giving clothes and clean socks to homeless people and the wife works as a volunteer coordinator at a homeless shelter. They firmly believe in universal health care and hope to run a commune one day… but they walk out their faith more than MOST people I know.

    Anyway, I am a conservative Christian woman–went to Restoring Honor… Yet, my pastor is gay… and I go to church with hippies. I‘ve come to realize that God’s kingdom is made of SOOOO many more people than we can even comprehend. He made us all and He LOVES us all. We are never going to find true peace until we can see each other with eyes of grace and love. It has to be more than just a slogan or an ad campaign. We MUST LOVE — in both WORD AND DEED — even when we don’t understand — the very Samaritans of our day — the Muslims, Palestinians, gays… and anyone else we see as “unlike” us.

    Here is a link to my husband’s blog discussing why we have chosen this place to grow in our faith: http://teamcurtiss.com/straight-answers-about-how-and-why-i-chose-my-pastor-who

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    • Libertyluvnmomma
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:49am

      Oh how touchy feely.
      Well your GAY pastor is Mocking God.
      HE WILL NOT BE MOCKED.

      If I were you I would prostrate myself before the Lord and become one with my Bible ( by reading it you sickos)
      Your argument is like saying one aborted their baby so it could “go to heaven”.

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    • sawbuck
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:51am

      I got about half way though your post and determined that you are either …stoned dumb…a lousy comic …or a fool.

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    • jesusletsmespeed
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:16am

      Love everyone. But God has specific requirements for those who would be elders, pastors, and leaders in the Church. Good grief.

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    • YourVoiceMatters
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:24am

      There is a way that seems right to man but the end is distruction…Sometimes things may seem like it is right but they are not following the Truth of the Word of God…you are supposed to come out of that It is not bashing them it is protecting your soul from levin (sin) These are set on a course that is really counter..to God’s plan! They follow a few things this is not Truth when you pick and choose a smorgaasboard of faith…even the devils know what is right they choose to do the opposite! the church does not evolve it is based in unequivical Truth which you cannot parse! Remember the Word says “didn’t we feed the poor” arguing their charity before God…Not everyone that says Lord, Lord will enter the Kingdom of Heaven! why? They did not KNOW HIM they only knew of Him they were still captains of their own souls and retained their own course never bowing their knee to the Lord but retaining authority over their own truth and actions according to what they chose to believe…Faith in God is surrender to to HIM and allowing His guidance & will over your life that is why it is called surrender! there is no room for haughty self pretense…this is arrogance in the end!

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    • hi
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:54am

      You are at a liberal church which does not teach God’s Word. Eventually when you realize what they are saying isn’t quite right. , I hope you try the Bible church that teaches God’s Word, His Truth and His love.

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    • lainab
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:20am

      Wow… as a long-time reader of the Blaze–since it’s inception–I’ve read the rather strong comments and thoughtless responses on these boards to others–which I guess is why I tend to stay out of discussions… All I’ll say in response to those of you who responded was that I am going to stand before God and answer for myself one day. I know that, and I also know that God is much bigger than we can comprehend. I’m not saying who is *right* or *wrong*, but I know that Jesus commanded us to LOVE others, especially our enemies. Since HE is my Judge, then I will do my best to carry out the commandment He gave in Luke 10 “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind; and, Love your neighbor as yourself.” I would invite those of you genuinely interested in hearing a thoughtful response to these issues to please check out the blog. We certainly support ourselves with the Bible and fully embrace God and Christ and His sacrifice on the cross. If you are only going to be hateful, please don’t bother reading it. But, if you ARE interested to hear another perspective, please read… We need dialogue, not divisiveness.

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    • sawbuck
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 1:21pm

      LAINAB
      Sorry for the harsh comment..
      I thought you were trying to punk us.. That how Un-Biblical your comment was..
      You need to get away from that church as fast as you can.
      And start reading your Bible..!
      I could fill my comment up with Bible scriptures , that warn us of such deception…

      This new-age feel good path you and your husband..is Not sound doctrine.

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    • lainab
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 2:22pm

      Sawbuck, Thank you for your response… Honestly, I was raised Southern Baptist, went to Presbyterian schools from 5-8 grades, Methodist camps, home-schooled for 9-10, went on mission trips w/ Awana Clubs International… In short, I am familiar with the Bible and the faith. And, I left the church for many years because it simply didn’t draw me into an authentic relationship with God that I was seeking–I felt that in many ways, “church” required me to put on my happy face and play the dutiful “Christian” role. I LOVE the Bible, and memorize it regularly, but I can’t abide people who say they love everyone, yet are so venomous and ugly in their speech. It is toxic. I don’t really need to defend myself on here, but I do think that it is worth pointing out that Jesus was harder on the religious people (who *knew* their scriptures backwards and forwards) than he was on the sinners–prostitutes, tax collectors, religious terrorists–who were clueless about spiritual matters.

      I certainly don‘t agree with everyone’s politics at my church, and this church has CERTAINLY been a challenge for me, as I haven’t always “approved” of homosexuality or progressive rationale. Just a few years ago, I almost walked away from the love of my life because these very same conservative ideals were being challenged. Instead of hiding in my comfort zone, I began to explore and grow. I found a God who is bigger than my comprehension who LOVES us as we are, and that’s a God I can

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    • sawbuck
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 4:51pm

      LAINAB
      I can understand your problem with some churches,
      but you just jumped from the frying pan into the fire…
      by having a pastor that’s homosexual.
      If you and know your Bible, you know God doesn’t approve of that lifestyle.
      You know it’s a sin and your pastor is condoning it too .
      .and everyone is living a lie.. Your pastor should not be leading anyone..
      his soul and those that follow him are in danger .

      I normally do not use the NIV Bible ..
      But I believe your having a hard time seeing the truth .
      .I pray God opens your eyes.
      _______________

      1 Corinthians chapter 6 verses 9,10,11

      9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God?
      Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters
      nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
      10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers
      nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

      11And that is what some of you were.

      But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified
      in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
      _________________________________________________________

      And thats what some of us “ WERE”….NOT…..”ARE.”….!

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    • lainab
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:42pm

      Sawbuck,

      I encourage you to read the blog… we discuss all of those issues in it. All of our claims are backed up by scripture and supported by the Bible… In fact, I think we actually use the verse you mentioned to support the very thing you condemn… I appreciate your willingness to discuss these very hot topics, and I understand that we may not all agree on everything. I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything — just sharing what I and my husband have come to discover after diligently searching and wrestling with these issues that we were raised never to question. The God I know and love is big enough to not be intimidated by ANYTHING that humanity can cook up… He is the Creator of all things, and as a result, He knows and loves His Creation. If I truly trust Him, then I don’t HAVE to understand or figure out everyone else. I am only responsible for ME–the way I respond to “others” and whether I treat them with love or disdain.

      I don’t have any further comment on here as it is obvious that we are on different pages theologically. Be blessed, my brother, and may the God of Creation continue to bring us together to discuss these topics and eventually see each other with a renewed mind and spirit. We are all simply working out our own salvation and, as long as the seeking comes from a spirit of humility and love, I believe we will all find the path of Life. Thank you for giving me audience. Be blessed.

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    • sawbuck
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:46pm

      Jude 1 : 3-7
      3Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints. 4For certain men whose condemnation was written aboutb long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.
      5Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lordc delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. 6And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. 7In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

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  • fobama
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:36am

    wait church an beer dont mix… wait what?

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  • BOMUSTGO
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:33am

    There is a big difference between the wheat and the tares, the sheep and the goats.

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:32am

    One more time —-

    There is NO such thing as “leftist CHRISTIANS”.
    There are, however, the following under the term “leftist”:
    cowards
    liars
    thieves
    unemployed, do-nothings
    socialists
    welfare users and abusers
    derelicts
    cheaters
    whiners
    arrogant ahs (not limited to the left, unfortunately)
    egocentric, self important boobs
    perverted
    anti-CHRISTIAN
    anti-GOD
    anti- AMERICAN
    uninformed tools of satan
    lost, forever, many of them.

    CHRISTIAN means CHRIST-follower. There is NOTHING at all about the left that follows, obeys, loves and worships JESUS THE CHRIST.

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  • barber2
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:31am

    Wild Goose …….. as in Wild Goose Chase ? Which best describes their understanding of the spiritual message of Jesus. This is just an example of the Karl Marx Crowd trying to Occupy Christian Space ! The Karl Marx Crowd trying to envelope his message of “ collective materialism ” within the folds of Christ’s ” individual spirituality.” Think the Great Deceiver is enjoying the show….

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  • woodyl1011fl
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:31am

    These people are spiritually delusional and blinded by Satanic deception they are not Christians as the Bible defines what a Christian is. Their Jesus is another Jesus as they redefined who Jesus is. Jude 1:4-5 or certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ. 5 Now I desire to remind you, though you know all things once for all, that the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe. Their judgment is set and future is sure if they do not repent of the evil they embrace.

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  • Steelhead
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:27am

    Billy is still chasing windmills-leftist Christians are still Christians

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  • LeadNotFollow
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:25am

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    Leftist Christians. Not my kind of Christians.
    Booze and Church Hymns don’t go together.

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  • YourVoiceMatters
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:24am

    You know why they have “beers and hymns”? I do. They kicked out the Holy Spirit long ago and devolved into what they have become and theirs (church) was of no Truth, no Life, and no Light, no Salvation….the beers are another spirit..because there is no church here of the Lord Jesus Christ! This is a mockery of Faith in God! These are vipers, vile, crude, reprobates! You have to be vile a long time to be considered reprobates….These represent the left are made up of the left and a very good reason anyone who participates in this religion should NEVER lead any country…This is the antichrist anti God movement. This is NOT the manner of person or persons i would ever want to represent me…they represent the opposite of Faith but standing for what is vile and evil in God’s eyes with their fist in HIS face (and in mine)!

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  • backoffmonkey
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:22am

    54% of Catholics couldn’t get enough obama. So, THEY elected him——-Now he (obama) tells them “Pound Eucharistic Sand and Do It My Way, or Else!”

    Can you finally see the damage you’ve caused this country?

    Thanx, AGAIN !

    Get used to seeing this post—-It’s meant to “inspire”.

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    • barber2
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:44am

      Don’t just Blame Catholics ! They are a ton of “ the social justice ” false prophets trolling this phony materialism as spirituality. Trouble is, people are so removed from their spirituality that they just don’t even know they could have a spiritual life !

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:13am

      Sheep should be blamed…I call them sheep and under that you can break out the branches of the sheep.

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    • by faith
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:25am

      I keep having to post this, because some people will believe anything the media tells them.

      From the US Census Bureau

      Support for Obama in 200853% of all voters
      94% Black Protestants
      89% Black Catholic (Vote based more on race than religion)
      75% unaffiliated
      71% Other minority Protestant
      71% Other minority Catholic (Hispanics were not going to vote for McCain)
      52% less-observant white Catholic
      55% less-observant white protestant
      41% observant white catholic
      41% observant white protestant

      Observant refers to voters who report attending religious service at least once a week.

      But you want to blame Catholics

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    • by faith
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:41am

      I keep having to post this because some people will believe anything the media tells them
      Support for Obama in 2008
      53% of all voters
      94% Black Protestants
      89% Black Catholic (Vote based more on race than religion)
      75% unaffiliated
      71% Other minority Protestant
      71% Other minority Catholic (Hispanics were not going to vote for McCain)
      52% less-observant white Catholic
      55% less-observant white protestant
      41% observant white catholic
      41% observant white protestant

      Observant refers to voters who report attending religious service at least once a week.
      But you need to blame Catholics…there is plenty of blame to go around

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    • backoffmonkey
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 3:20pm

      Golly Gosh, “by faith”

      I‘ve looked high and low trying to validated your BS ’facts‘ BUT I haven’t been able to find the source of that c r a p you’ve posted ! Wow !

      My facts come directly from a site —http://catholicism.org/— How About That ?

      Tell the truth or STFU !

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    • backoffmonkey
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 3:27pm

      BTW,

      Isn’t the Chief Justice a “Practicing Catholic”, also ?

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    • by faith
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:16am

      From the US Census Bureau

      I gave you the source.

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    • by faith
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:27am

      Monkey

      Your response tells me two things.
      You have poor impulse control. Resorting to foul language (albeit, by initials)
      You don’t read so good.
      Yes, Justice Roberts professes to be a practicing Catholic, he is one of the 1.2 Billion in the world today.
      Here is a little secret, all 1.2 billion or sinners, not one of us is perfect.
      Catholicism.org, never heard of it, but thanks for the link. BTW, I searched this site, could not confirm you accusation. Could it be possible you made up information to fit your narrative?

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    • by faith
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 3:08pm

      Obama professes to be a Non-Denominational Christian, so by your logic all non-denoms’s are equal to the President.

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    • by faith
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 3:11pm

      Isn’t the Chief Justice a “Practicing Catholic”, also ?

      Yes, and isn’t the President a “Non-Denominational Christian”?

      Where is your ‘logic” taking us?

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  • Steelheadisadouche
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:10am

    Cannot buy into actual Christians being on the left with the LGBLT, muslims/cair, and NBPP all under that big tent. Nonsensical in every manner. Turd sammich still tastes like a turd sammich. Loose goose sure. Retread hippies at best.

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    • macpappy
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:16am

      Why not, you went for the immaculate conception. The pope being God’s man on earth, this does not seem so far fetched does it?

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    • Steelheadisadouche
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:27am

      So far fetched it is barely worth a menial comment. Faith is huge. Left has faith in the gubment only. It is on display daily, denomination doesn’t matter, selves and gubmint only Why learn to fish when uncle will provide the fish at someone else’s expense for the betterment of the collective and all that happy crap. How will the rainbow cair coalition rub elbows with the lefty evangilists? How does black lib theology spoon with the far left hebrews after hours when shariah is in effect? So many questions for that big rainbow tent. Whatever floats your boat though.

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    • Steelhead
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:40am

      douche – you are the type of Christian that judges other Christians, isn’t that the job of God?

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:01am

      Actually judging the hearts of people is a matter for God. Behavior and actions are to be compared against scripture to discern whether they are right or wrong, moral or immoral

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    • Steelheadisadouche
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:33am

      Yes, isadouche, I am a human sinner and cast stones at lefties as they stand still in their own fecal matter, and then pray for them and you and even meself. You would call that art no doubt and seek funding to expand on it further.

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  • trolltrainer
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:09am

    Christians? Maybe…I cannot make that judgment. But methinks most of these folks certainly know OF Jesus, but I seriously doubt they KNOW Jesus.

    Beer is fine, the Bible warns of drunkenness…If you accept God’s Word…But “she” has the whole world in “her” hands? That is just terrible theology.

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    • macpappy
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:26am

      Theology is one thing, but when it is put into practice and called a true religion, well then thats something else isn’t it. The right would like to claim ownership of the religion, but many would argue that the left worships a more liberal and social Jesus than the one the conservative worship.
      A God is only as powerful as the number of folks that believe in it.
      I am a little concerned that the christians are allowing a site like this drive wedges between your followers.

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    • barber2
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:40am

      MAC: ” a social Jesus ?” Hmmmm. Interesting concept. While he personally fed the masses with those loaves and fishes ( note: didn’t call on the government ! ), I don’t think “social events” were His main concern. Have a sneaking suspicion that His message to ” render unto Caesar that which was Caesar‘s and to render unto God that which was God’s , ” did not entail beer and partying. Do think Jesus had a more spiritual focus which these materialists seem to have missed .

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:56am

      macpappy
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:26am

      A God is only as powerful as the number of folks that believe in it.
      I am a little concerned that the christians are allowing a site like this drive wedges between your followers.
      —————————————————————————–
      God is only as powerful as the number that believe in Him? Wow! That sounds like something that would be preached at this liberal loony-fest.

      I am not in the least concerned with any perceived wedges being driven anywhere. Being a Christian means having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. No more…no less.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:07am

    The very actions of these self proclaimed Christians declares their true allegiance in this world and in the next. Social Justice and Marxism are contra to the Bible itself; and thus in turning the state into a god of this world and the next, they betray the true and only Living God Himself.

    May they come and see the truth while time remains, or they need to be prepared to reap the harvest of blood coming their way from Obama.

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    • jman-6
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:24am

      Amen…nuff said..

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    • momrules
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:24am

      Well said Snow. I hope they enjoy their worldly pleasures because if they continue on the path they have chosen that will be their only pleasures, ever.

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