See This Viral Catholic Campaign Video Targeting Abortion, Gay Marriage & the Contraception Mandate
- Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:15am by
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Catholics Called to Witness, a conservative, Florida-based Catholic organization, has produced an epic ad about values issues in the 2012 presidential campaign. Just weeks after it was first posted, the three-minute clip is gaining steam across the blogosphere. The Huffington Post has more about the hard-hitting political clip:
“Test of Fire,“ which shows of an iron worker casting pieces that say ”jobs,“ ”taxes,“ and ”energy” with daunting music in the background, tells viewers that some politicians’ policies are negotiable but that those which would legalize same-sex marriage or support the inclusion of contraception coverage in religious institutions’ insurance plans are dealbreakers.
“In generations past, the church has always been able to count on the faithful to stand up and protect her sacred rights and duties. This generation of Catholics must do the same,” says the video, which also shows a presumably Catholic woman voting.
The eerily invigorating music that plays throughout the clip accompanies moving imagery and gripping text.
“This November, Catholics across the nation will be put to the test. Many issues in America require hard work,” the text proclaims. ”But how do we know if we are building in vein?”
The video goes on to say that Catholics have an opportunity to shape America’s future for the current generation and for “generations to come.” Additionally, the video conceded that many issues are currently problematic, but that some are non-negotiable. These issues are, as stated: abortion, the redefinition of marriage and the contraceptive mandate.
“Your vote will affect the future and be recorded in eternity,” the text concludes. “Will you vote the values…that will stand the test of fire?”
Watch the video, below:
(H/T: Huffington Post)
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Comments (147)
cloudsofwar
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:46pmvery powerful vedio and i pray my fellow catholics will vote for Romney this november and throw Obama out. we need a good old fashion capitalist in the white house and not a MARXIST. Obama is following in the foot steps of Stalin and Hitler.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:04pmCan’t wait to see this in Spanish
Report Post »ccfonten
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:54pmThis is one awesome video! It needs to be aired on every TV on every station available. It needs to be aired in the theaters!
Report Post »Obama and his thugs, liars, cheats, thieves and the truly evil need to be exorcised from our nation.
charles116
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:10pmRomney has no core.
Report Post »Just as well.
If he did
He’d be rotten to it.
Patriot of My America
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 8:13pmVery well produced, they need to put more of these out as like once a week..
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:33pmyes, well done. will Catholics Called to Witness, or the entire Catholic Church, lose their tax-exempt status due to this Political video? this is exciting!
Report Post »Sorocialism
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:49pmUrging people to vote and to consider the Churche’s values when voting will have no bearing on the tax status of the church.
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:58pm@Sorocialism – per the IRS:
Section 501(c)(3) organizations are restricted in how much political and legislative (lobbying) activities they may conduct.
Catholics Called to witness is such an organization. this is an overreach which very well may cost them their protected status.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:06pm@Philly
They are very careful not to specifically endorse a candidate by name. Their tax exempt status is in no danger. In the same way, the Church can decry policies it sees as contrary to their teachers, but as long as they stop short of “Don’t vote for Obama“ or ”vote for Romney,” they won’t get in trouble.
And I seem to recall reading that when an overzealous preacher does mention such things once in a while, the result is usually fines, not immediate revocation of tax exempt status.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:10pmFear not this Video violates no Campaign Law for it does not endorse anyone Candidate, but issues the Church holds important.
Report Post »I love Liberals
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:40pmStill waiting for you to respond on how this commercial advocates one candidate over another versus just asking Catholics to remember their values when they go to the voting booth?
Are you suggesting that Obama’s policies are not congruent with catholic values?
Report Post »JimL
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:58pmMD out of Florida
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:22pmBetter to lose our tax exempt status than our freedom and the soul of the Church.
Report Post »tootsie roll
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:38pmThis video is fine with the tax exempt status. I work for the IRS. If Media Matters can have a tax expemt status and state in its incorpration papers that it is against Conservative (that’s a political stand) and it is against Christian values and get a tax exemption and it did then this video is NOTHING, more than telling Catholics to vote their Catholic beliefs in November. No party or persons name was used so Phillyatheists you are off the mark. But you are off the mark more than this it must be very sad to have no beliefs in anything SAD IN DEED
Report Post »TheVoice1
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 8:46pmphillyatheist
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:58pm
@Sorocialism – per the IRS:
Section 501(c)(3) organizations are restricted in how much political and legislative (lobbying) activities they may conduct.
Catholics Called to witness is such an organization. this is an overreach which very well may cost them their protected status.
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YOU MUST BE JOKING, or simply do not know the facts. You might want to ask Rev. and I do mean Rev. Sharpton or Rev. Jackson. How about Rev. Wright? Silly statement to say the least….
Stand Strong America
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:27pmWhile the video is very well done, the fact of the matter is that it’s an entire waste of time and effort.
Report Post »The Catholic Church in America sold it’s soul out to devil long ago. It sold out to the Communists in the late 50s & early 60s in America. The Church and an overwhelming portion of it’s members have become nothing more than another shill for the Democratic Party. The Churches teachings are laughed at by most members, who continue to support politicians like the Kennedys, Pelosi & Biden, even though those politicians support infanticide. The Church itself, along with much of it’s high ranking clergy show not admonishment to these politicians, but genuine support and even friendship.
While clergy like Dolan my want to try to clean up this matter, there are too few of like minded clergy to do it. Excommunication for those that defy Church teachings? Of course not; when those politicians wield money and power. In that regard the Catholic Church isn’t much different than it was before the Reformation.
teddrunk
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:31pmmay, not my…oops
Report Post »cloudsofwar
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:41pm@ ted……… i’m catholic and your full of CRAP.
Report Post »Sorocialism
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:51pm@Ted
In some aspects you are right, the Catholic church’s point of view on illegal immigration is a clear point that reinforces your comment.
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:53pmClouds…explain why Ted Kennedy, Pelosi or Biden are still members of the Church, while they spent their lives supporting EXACTLY what the Catholic Church is supposed to be against?. No Clouds, The Church is full of it.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:08pm@Teddrunk
By your reasoning, because Obama has been a Baptist for most of his life, the Baptist religion is full of it.
Having some wayward Christians does not invalidate Christianity itself.
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 5:59pm@Ted… man are you clueless…
go back over the last 20-30 years and you will see that the Catholic Church in America MIRRORS average America. there are a wide variety of personal political beliefs, including on gay marriage and abortion, within the Church and even within the leadership nationally.
Catholics, going back many decades, with the exception of Kennedy and Reagan, have been voting about the same, 54% – 46% Democrat – Republican.
the Catholic Church has been against contraception forever but you don’t see Bishops and Priests excommunicating parishioners that use them, or that are gay, or that get abortions. The Church has laid down their doctrine, their teaching…certain issues they leave between you and God and state that God will deliver ultimate judgement.
As for politicians, certain Bishops have done much to push back, doing everything they can do without consent of the Papacy, like denying Communion and Marriage ceremonies. Excommunication requires Papal Decree.
Now if logical thought says that Catholics are split nearly 50-50 on politics, than you would think that Catholic Parishes are also split 50-50 on politics/policy and their interpretation of Papal Decree. So a politician, liberal or conservative, will probably align and attend services with a liberal or conservative Pastor and Parish..
seems to work that way with ALL denominations and faiths…wow..imagine that…who would have thought….
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:24pmVarious responders….Without the Catholic vote, Obama and the Democratic Party would of shriveled up and dried away. Most American Catholics are much like American Jews in that their religion is really just something they call themselves.Most are so moronic, they feel they can belong to a religion, yet support the causes the Church is opposed to. Why would one be Catholic & a Democrat? You’re either a baby killer, or you’re not.
Report Post »PaxInVeritate
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:06pmMarvelous spot. Will definitely show to those in my family that are Libs.
Huffington Post- “daunting music in the background”
Billy Hallowell- “eerily invigorating music”
Umm I think you guys are looking for the word Dramatic.
Report Post »29brenda
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:50amLocked, get a clue and look again. They used the word vain, not vein.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:59am@29Brenda
The video did twice, correctly. The Blaze messed it up. Quoted from the article:
“This November, Catholics across the nation will be put to the test. Many issues in America require hard work,” the text proclaims. ”But how do we know if we are building in vein?”
And quoted from the Bible:
Matthew 7:1 ” 1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged.”
Report Post »29brenda
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:06pmWhat do you expect from the Huffington Post?
Report Post »Locked
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:03pm@29Brenda
The section I quoted was specific to The Blaze, not the Huffington Post. You can even verify this by clicking the link and Ctrl + f “Vein.” Again, Matthew 7:1.
Report Post »Susan09
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 3:33pmOdd Two Ideas Two Thoughts and two people in disagreement. JUDGING EACH OTHER BY quoting “DO NOT JUDGE” What then are either of you JUDGING ONLY EACH OTHER and whom is correct? When IF SOMEONE has no GOOD JUDGMENT about the matter being discussed HMMM WELL which ONE of you is RIGHT and WHICH one is wrong. when there is only the two of you Judging each others remarks.. AS FOR ME!!!! oh I am just making a comment I am not here to JUDGE either Of you right or wrong WHY?? because IT was after all JUST your CONVERSATION I just am making a comment on the “MORONIC” OF IT ALL BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU.. Oh and THE WORD moronic Is Implied above by another MORON.. OR maybe they are not just those that the party referred to are..
Report Post »TheVoice1
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 9:00pmjoesdonebeingintimidated
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 7:24pm
I thank God for the administration of President Obama. I will be voting for him.I am a while male Catholic.
______________
You can call yourself anything you want there Joe… lol…. but this is kinda like saying “I’m an atheist but I pray daily and know God will straighten this all out” while splashing yourself with Holy water there Joe… dah which way did they go, which way did they go, kinda thing. So call yourself what ever there Joe and be sure to take your meds on time… can we get a gurney in here please…..
Stand Strong America
Report Post »horsefeathers99
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:40amI feel that faith is strengthening in the Catholic church, and fighting evil more than ever because of this administration.
Where would it be more effective for evil to expand, but for Satan to tempt people in powerful places, like country leaders, media, priests, ministers, professors, teachers etc. or athiest bloggers.
Report Post »Taking the world down from the top, the rest will follow?
JimL
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:02pmNope. He will call His.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:28pmHorse i totally agree. the catholic church has truly stepped up, God help them the attacks will be huge on them and the temptation to fall. May they stay strong they have truly stepped up to the challenge
Report Post »joesdonebeingintimidated
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 7:24pmI thank God for the administration of President Obama. I will be voting for him.I am a while male Catholic.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 9:28pmJoes – Then you are a traitor to the faith as well as to religious freedom if you support Obama.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:37amA pretty good video overall, well worth the 2 1/2 minutes to watch it. Only two issues came to mind while watching it:
1. When it said the election will define “our generation” and “generations to come,” the only people shown were white, middle-aged people. I feel like it would have had more of an impact if, say the woman who was voting was a young, college-age woman instead of the dour housewife-looking middle-aged woman. Or maybe if they had reinforced the message of life, marriage, etc with examples (the woman has a baby, the old man is working with his wife or family at the forge).
2. The hammer didn’t remind of America, so much as half the classic symbols of the USSR: hammer and sickle. It’s not a bad profession to take and went with the point of the video (test of fire) very well, but I found myself thinking “Hmmm, couldn’t we find something more American than a hammer?” Then again, nothing jumps out at me immediately. Somehow I feel “Bald Eagle trainer” isn‘t quite as evocative even if it’s more patriotic.
Still, a good video!
Report Post »JimL
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:05pmAg-it Locked, gO fOR the prop.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:07pmsymbols …..blacksmith, forging iron (biblical reference), hammer used to build the rail road (iconic American image),
Report Post »JimL
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:35amFiery
Report Post »makeemstop
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:32amI hate to criticize this ad, because I’m behind the principal 100%. However, I’m not Catholic but I am Christian and I support the same principals. And I have to believe the Ad is also leaving out many others with strong convictions about their beliefs and religious freedoms they hold dear.
Basically, I think the message should target all those with Judea Christian values, not just one denomination.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:16pmFrom God’s perspective there is but “one flock and one shepherd” (John 10:16). If a Christian denomination believes that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, only way to salvation, died and rose from the dead for the remission of sins, I can stand with those in unity of the flock. I will leave the other docrinal differences to be sorted out when we get to heaven. Though I doubt, in His presence, such things will cross my mind….
Report Post »JimL
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:20pmExecutive Office, the Office of Local & Global Governance.
Tax Code funds nothing and everything
Life is digital.
It’s a beginning.
Enjoy.
Report Post »JimL
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:24pmOne on one, Soul to soul…
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:28pmThere will be more ads over time. This ad is specifically by Catholics, for Catholics.
Report Post »PATRIOTGRUNT
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:26amAs a Catholic I often wondered where the church was as our religious rights and beliefs were and are trampled on. Its about time .
Report Post »JimL
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:55am“The irony, though, is this: A very good guide to Catholic citizenship and public leadership already exists. The pastoral statement “Living the Gospel of Life, issued in 1998 by the U.S. Catholic bishops…”
see, “Render Unto Caesar”, Charles J. Chaput
“Go and serve the Lord”
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 9:46pmJiml – That doesn’t mean that we stop serving God. Apparently we missed that part.
Report Post »JimL
Posted on April 19, 2012 at 11:05amGidR. Bishop Chaput reminds us that serving the Lord is serving our neighbors (citizenship).
Materialists redefine words. Christians define words by picking up our cross(es) and following the Lord.
Report Post »LukeAppling
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:17amHooray for Catholics! Stand by your faith and your faith will keep you. Step by step our country is being led to destruction and people of faith must hold to the truth. The lamestream media, hollywood, TV and radio, all are trying to destroy Christianity moreso than any other religion they hate the 10 commandments.
Report Post »JimL
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:31pmStatism=religion
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 9:26pmJiml – Atheism=Statism.
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:17amI am not Catholic, but I will stand with Catholics to preserve their religious freedoms, even if I don’t agree with everything they believe. Religious freedom is necessary and a Constitutional right. The moment the left try to discount and bypass the Constitution everyone’s rights are at jeopardy. Even you leftist schmucks. So be careful what you support.
Video is very well done. My kudo’s to the developer.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:26amIt is interesting they always leave pedophilia off their objection list.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:48amJRook – Isn’t it interesting that the incidence of pedophilia in other denominations is never reported by the MSM even though it is much higher than in the Catholic Church. It is also interesting to note that the church has been infiltrated by communists with the purpose of bringing down the church. This Pope is dealing with it as swiftly as he can. There are bad apples in every barrel. The good the church has done has been remarkable throughout history.
Report Post »JimL
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:02pm8th- slander
Report Post »mark85
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:14amHow appropriate that a church that burned hundreds of thousands of people at the stake for the crime of not converting would choose fire as the theme for this video. And talk about freedom and liberty, the Catholic Church doesn’t understand the words.
Report Post »http://www.skepticspost.com/vatican-no-friend-of-liberty.html
NHwinter
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:31amOh my gosh. Times have changed and there are ALWAYS two sides to every story. We are fighting in 2012 for freedom and the Catholic Church is leading that fight in the present age. Read an accurate history of what happened. Then move on to the present time.
Report Post »HuskerDave
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:39amId10t
Report Post »PaxInVeritate
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:49amOh not you again. *Sighs* It amazes me that there are people who will judge a group as illegitimate based on what happened in a different era and in a different societal context than what is occurring today in a current social environment. The Catholic Church denounced what happen in the past, and boy oh boy, we sure are seeing the Catholics burning the apostates at the stake today! Are you kidding me? Oh grow up. That was the past. No one can undo what was done in a bygone era. We just have to make sure not to let it happen again in our current era. Oh, and no one from this time period should apologize for what happened since we (the Catholic Church) would not conduct ourself nor condone such atrocities today. It’s called evolving. We’ve grown past it. Perhaps you can too.
Report Post »lornaduwn
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:09pmShould the Church of today be held responsible for what the Church did 400 yrs. ago? Do you know what your 12th great grandfather did? Was he a witch hunter? Maybe he was Roman and nailed people up to bake in the sun. Maybe he was Aztec and killed little kids in the mountains.
The truth of God has been perverted by the ego’s of men since the beginning of time. But their is one basic truth that must be held sacred. God wants you to love him of your own free will. Forced belief does not come from free will. The Church of today recognizes that truth.
That is why it is so important to ensure that the first clause of 1st amendment, “Congress shall make no law respecting (regarding) religion” is upheld. Our heartfelt beliefs must be protected. Taking away our right to peaceably exercise our free will, not only dictates to the citizens what they are not allowed to think and believe; but also takes away our ability to love God of our own free will.
Report Post »by faith
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:34pmI assume you mean the Inquisitions. Yes plural there were 3 of note and your estimate of those killed is way off. The Inquisitons (specifitly Spanish) was intended not to convert people, but to find people who were outwardly claiming to be Christian but secretly practiced another religion, such as people who had become Christian outwardly, but who were still secretly practicing anti-Messianic Judaism, Islam, or Albigensianism, this last being a religion claiming that there are two gods, one good and one evil. It was thus an attempt to protect the purity of the Christian community.
Also, I’d like to point out that the Protestants had a counter-inquisition that killed Catholics. Thousands of Catholics were killed in England alone after the Reformation struck there. The same thing was true in Ireland and other areas where the Reformation came. John Calvin, for instance, was known for burning people at the stake. Can you name one country that has not killed Catholics? No, because there isn’t one.
Report Post »In addition, Protestants were the big witch-burners. Witch burning never caught on in Catholic countries. When the Spanish Inquisition examined the cases of reported witches, it almost invariably concluded that the charges were false and the accused were not guilty. But tens of thousands of supposed witches were burned at the stake, hanged, or drowned in Protestant countries, including the American colonies.
JimL
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:07pm…Christians he had covered with pitch, and burned to light his gardens.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:08amthe writer obviously did not have a nun for an English grammar teacher. The Catholic Church needs to expand their school system to help make up for the current mess in public education ! Sister Annette would never tolerate such a spelling lapse . ( and this is just the type of detail the Left will exploit – count on it ! )
Report Post »Locked
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:46am“This November, Catholics across the nation will be put to the test. Many issues in America require hard work,” the text proclaims. ”But how do we know if we are building in vein?”
It‘s usually pretty obvious when we’re building in vein. There are arteries, and blood flow, and if you eat too much junk food, cholesterol might build up in the veins. Now, building in vain would be bad. But in vein? Go for it.
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:12amGet off your freaking high horse before you fall off and break your neck. It is easy to make that typo Mr. Perfect.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:20amAnd here we have the reclusive internet troll, @Cofemale, who cannot take a joke. Alas, she is suffering from a broken bone. I believe it’s the Humerus.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 9:29pmLocked – You couldn’t take a joke against your leftist dogma either, hypocrite.
Report Post »ldaopines
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:43amWe are starting to see the moral deterioration in our society, since Progressives have removed faith (and therefore values) from the schools, public square, and even the military. I’m not a Catholic, but I stand with them because freedom of religion means that the government does not dictate to or force churches to act in ways that counter their values/beliefs. In fact, I have attended a rally together with other faiths to remind Obama that we stand together on this. Whether one believes in abortion or gay marriage or not, government must keep its hands off of the church. That’s something we all can and should agree on.
Report Post »KAS_Wolf
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:15amThank you for standing with us.
Report Post »Superfly_75
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:28pmWell said. I’m not Catholic either, but I will stand with them!
Report Post »curleyfry
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:42amWow!!! The video gave me goose bumps. So true. God is always watching!!!
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:02amPowerful …….. Romney should run it in every state
Report Post »Vickie Dhaene
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:32pmYou took the words right out of my mouth.
Report Post »TheVoice1
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 9:10pmAll of us as Christians need to remember it when we run into the voting booths in Nov.
Stand Strong America
Report Post »Jessff00
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:41amIt is time, STAND UP, dont be silent and let these 60′s radicals destroy this nation that we love, STAND UP, and fight for Freedom, Liberty, and Truth. STAND UP, and know that God and the Truth are on our side. STAND UP, and scream it loud from the roof tops that this nation was founded with Devine Providence from the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and no matter how hard they try they will NOT erase this from history. STAND UP, and send this evil life style back to satan were it belongs. STAND UP, and tell everyone you know that this nation IS the greatest nation in history because of our relationship with our GOD. STAND UP, and tell them all you will NEVER TAKE AWAY MY RIGHT TO SELF DEFENSE……WAKE UP AND STAND UP….FORE THE WOLVES ARE AT OUR DOOR, IT IS TIME….
Report Post »Winedude
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:46amI think that good old GW said it best re. the nation’s foundation. Y’all are grasping at straws with the religion card. Keep religion out of our lives if we don’t want it. If you want to practice some sort of belief on an ancient, frequently re-translated book, that’s your business. Just don’t force it on the rest of us. Thank you.
“The United States is in no sense founded upon the Christian doctrine.”
–George Washington
“The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever
from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with
blood for centuries.¬”
–James Madison
“Religions are all alike – founded upon fables and mythologie¬s.”
- Thomas Jefferson
“The Christian God is a being of terrific character — cruel, vindictive¬,
capricious¬, and unjust.”
– Thomas Jefferson
“In no instance have . . . the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people.”
Report Post »- James Madison
NHwinter
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:54amWinedude – you need to read some of David Barton’s books on all those you mentioned in your post. He would blow your tiny, inaccurate quotes to pieces.
Report Post »Winedude
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:29pmNHWinter…who is David Barton? He can put any spin he likes on the quotes…they’re still that…”quotes.” He can believe what he wants; I’ll believe what I want. That’s what the 1st amendment is all about.
Report Post »Winedude
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:39pmI just did a Google search on Mr. David Barton. I discovered that he’s a “Christian Evangelical” on a mission to disprove the separation of church and state…interesting. I further looked up reviews by others on his work and he is quite discredited, accused of sloppy work and taking quotes from the Founding Fathers and the bible out of context. In other words, he’s a Evangelical Christian hack from Texas…big surprise. I’ll take a pass on wasting time reading anything he has written.
Report Post »JimL
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:41pmWindy: — founded on “non-man” given rights.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:38pmWinedude – no, of course, you won’t read any of his works because some (who are liberals most likely) oppose what he says. You just might learn something if you read his works. Stay closed minded and I hope that works for you.
Report Post »Jessff00
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:26pmWinedude…..do your own research and dont just stop with the ones you think fit into your idea….27 of the 56 founding signers had Christian seminary degrees… educate yourself so you dont look so stupid. .http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers_Religion.html Remember my friend people like you years ago were burnt at the stake for witches. This nation was founded to spread the CHRISTIAN RELEGION. They wanted to be released from the Church of England.
Report Post »Jessff00
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:29pmJohn Adams
Report Post »2nd U.S. President and Signer of the Declaration of Independence
“The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.”
–Adams wrote this on June 28, 1813, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson.
Jessff00
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:35pmPatrick Henry
Ratifier of the U.S. Constitution
“It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.”
Report Post »–The Trumpet Voice of Freedom: Patrick Henry of Virginia, p. iii.
Jessff00
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:44pmJames Madison
Belief – Episcopalian
“Religion is the basis and Foundation of Government.” June 20, 1785
“It is not the talking but the walking and working person that is the true Christian.” In a manuscript on the Gospels and the Acts of the Apostles, Madison makes this statement.
“We have all been encouraged to feel in the guardianship and guidance of that Almighty Being, whose power regulates the destiny of nations.” March 4, 1809 Inaugural Address
“We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We’ve staked the future of all our political institutions upon our capacity…to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.” [1778 to the General Assembly of the State of Virginia]
Report Post »huntinwabbits
Posted on April 19, 2012 at 2:18pmWinedude… It is real easy to find on the internet that George Washington said such phrase. But I have yet to find any empirical evidence of that. The phrase actually stems from the Treaty of Tripoli sign in 1797. The Treaty was initiated by Washington, but it was written in arabic. The phrase comes from an Article that was added in the translation to English and then ratified. This didn’t happen until after John Adams was President. Throughout history, the original text has been translated many times. It is agreed that Article 11 (the article in question) does not appear. The section from where it was taken was written in a letter form but there is no correlation between these parts in the English and Arabic versions. And even so, John Adams and the others ratified it on the premise that no official religion would be recognized so all were welcome. This was done in the same way that the “myth” of separation of church and state was presented by Thomas Jefferson. It was never intended to deny the founding principles. It was intended to establish freedom for any person regardless or race or religion to be apart of this new country. The entire ideology expressed was that all should feel free to worship as they choose (including Christians, which would be a shocker for most liberals to find out).
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:36amuh oh a religious story cue the trolls and militant athiests with their nonsense
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:40amready, set….. :)
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:47amI think they all have alarms that go off on their computers any time a religion story is posted anywhere on the WWW.
Report Post »Calm Voice of Reason
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:34am“In generations past”, the conservative right fought against Catholic encroachment on politics.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:40amCalm Voice of Treason
Report Post »“In generations past, the conservative right” has always fought for religious liberty.
lukerw
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:04amThe old opposition was to… a Leadership… that was not American. But, now with a UN trying to be Sovereign over America… and a President more loyal to Russia than the Constitution… things have changed. You choose your allies for Support… against your Enemies… not by tradition!
Report Post »Calm Voice of Reason
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:06amThe two objectives are not mutually exclusive.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:10amVOICE OF Stupidity That would have been the southern Demorats (KKK)
Report Post »JimL
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:27pmYesterday’s “no nothings” are today’s elites.
Report Post »TEARS FOR AMERICA
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:32amIncredible video..why are the Protestants quiet? Let’s roll!
Report Post »ldaopines
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:47amWho’s quiet? I’ve already been at a rally for freedom of religion in Phx. It was the “gentlest” rally I’ve ever been to!
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:11pmSouthern Baptist Catholic Jew here….
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:31amCatholic Church: prepare for the Far Left blow back. ( see what the Left is doing to political conservatives, to the military, to the Tea Party, to church goers, to tax payers, to capitalists , to those who stand for the rights of the individual, to those who don’t like bullies, to those who follow traditional values ? ) . Will be interesting to see how these two forces of good and evil will weather this battle. I know which side I am on.
Report Post »KAS_Wolf
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 11:18amLet them bring it.
The Church has stood for 2,000+ years – they will not falter. The Church will hold up those of faith. I love that the attack on the Church has brought people of all faiths together.
We do know what side we are on. I’ll stand with you Barber2.
Report Post »SUAVE300
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:27amWow! Awesome! I love it!! Lets hope this fire keeps burning!
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:26amThe Crusader Knights… are not all gone!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:24am“In generations past, the church has always been able to count on the faithful to stand up and protect her sacred rights and duties. This generation of Catholics must do the same,”
Report Post »That’s it in a nutshell Catholics. Time to decide who you place the hope of your salvation in. Will it be Jesus or Obama? It shouldn’t be a hard choice.
NHwinter
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:46amWell said, Gonzo. It is time to choose. I pray that this time the vote will be for freedom. Mine will be!!
Report Post »JimL
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 12:37pmServe, vote, and say no-thanks to Gov.
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