‘I Don’t Think You All Get It’: Fed-Up Sen. Coburn Tangles With MSBNC Panel Over Tea Party & Constitution
- Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:35pm by
Jason Howerton
- Print »
- Email »
The Blaze’s Benny Johnson contributed to this report.
On Thursday, Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) appeared on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” and blasted the show’s panel for misrepresenting the principles of the Tea Party, saying they just don’t “get it.” He also gave the panel a solid history lesson on the Constitution after at least one panelist admitted he was unsure in which section the enumerated powers were located.
After talking fondly of Texas candidate for U.S. Senate Ted Cruz and his victory in the runoff election, Coburn said he was “really amused” by the way they spoke about the Tea Party. “I don’t think you all get it,” he added.
“The Tea Party is every person in America who really is fed up with Washington and recognizes the way we got there was abandoning the core principles of our country but also abandoning the Constitution,” Coburn said.
Co-host Lawrence O’Donnell chimed in and completely changed the subject, not even addressing what Coburn had just said. Instead, O’Donnell brought up how Coburn had recently apologized to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid — a topic that came completely out of the blue.
Shortly after, one of the panelists suggested that his public display of civility would work against him within the Tea Party. This is where Coburn started to heat up.
“You are seeing them totally different than what they are,” he said. “The picture you paint doesn’t come close to anybody I know in the Tea Party.”
Washington Post reporter and MSNBC contributor Jonathan Capehart went on to ask Coburn to provide examples of how the United States has abandoned the Constitution. And so he did.
“Go read Article 1, Section 8 and it gives the enumerated powers… The American people get it and our founders got it. And the one part of the balance of power that doesn‘t get talked about and what you’re seeing expressed through the Tea Party is the real balance of power that our founders wanted is we the people to hold the government accountable. And that‘s what’s going to start happening in this country,” he replied.
“We’re $16 trillion in debt. We have totally cut the legs out from underneath our kids and grand kids and now we‘re saying there’s something wrong with the people that want to get back to the thing that built this country rather than the thing that tore it down.”
After asking the initial question, Capehart then admitted he wasn’t even familiar with the article of the Constitution that Coburn was talking about — even though the senator mentioned the words “enumerated powers” in his explanation.
“Senator, Article 1, Section 8, I should know this but I don’t…” Capehart admitted. Though Coburn could have easily inserted a snide remark, he simply gave the entire MSNBC panel a free lesson on America’s founding principles.
“The Constitution is loaded with ‘No’s’. It’s not loaded with ‘Yes’s,’” he explained. “We’ve expanded the federal government outside the range, outside the range of what our founders ever thought the federal government would have a hand in. You can‘t go anywhere that the federal government doesn’t have involvement and wrongly so, because quite frankly, even though we’re well intentioned, we’re not very good at doing these things.”
Huffington Post reporter Sam Stein then snidely remarked that if the Tea Party really want to reign in the size of the government, they would, in theory, be in support of cutting and “trimming the fat” off the Defense Department budget. But as Coburn pointed out, he made the mistake of lumping Republicans and the Tea Party into one category, a common mistake of the left.
“The fact is, is just because you’re a Republican, doesn’t mean you embrace the principles of the Tea Party,” Coburn said.
The senator from Oklahoma then destroyed Steins’s premise that Tea Party members are opposed to any real cuts to the DoD as he previously suggested.
“I can find the fat in the Pentagon. They’re [members calling for a halt to sequestration cuts to DoD] just not willing to do it. They don‘t believe it’s there. I believe it’s there. I’ve studied it. I put out one trillion dollars worth of cuts in the Pentagon over the next ten years. We can do that. The point is, they are worried that we will cut into the actual real thing that will keep us defended, and I understand that concern. Plus, sequestering is stupid.”
Coburn went on:
“We do need to have a strong defense. But the defense of this country and our ability to defend ourselves is based on our economic strength. And you cannot have a strong defense without a strong economically viable, growing nation. What we’ve done is spent way too much money and not had any grown-ups in the room when it comes to major weapons systems.”
“There is no grown-up in the room to say ‘the bells and whistles got to stop. Here’s how much we can afford to spend to get to this technology.’ And because there’s no grown-up or limit on what we can spend, innovation dries up and what we do is we suck the dollars out of the Pentagon, appropriately so, but because there’s no adult watching. “
Watch Coburn rip the “Morning Joe” panel apart via MSNBC here:





















Submitting your tip... please wait!
Comments (198)
freedomofspeech
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:09pmAre my eyes and ears deceiving me? This can’t be, just as I was saying “ where have all the men gone”
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:28pmMy Senator. Read this story on Politico and some of the comments. Good Lord! There are idiots out there that think msnbc tells the truth. How can people be so gullible?
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:30pmDon’t hold your breath here. Sounds nice, but this guy has a problem with several of our rights and his actions speak louder than words.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:35pmDoes anybody even watch these clowns, do they know what an irrelevant joke they have become ? I honestly don’t think they do……thank God for the new media……you and I.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:36pmGo back to this Blaze story and reply to some of the posts there. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/becks-oval-office-a-revolution-is-taking-place-based-on-individual-liberty/#comment-3836004
Report Post »It seems that the ones who bash Paul supporters are afraid to since Glenn actually sounds like a Ron Paul supporter in this one.
cyclejerk
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:38pmAmen,
Report Post »The wheels of the “Restoring Love” philosophy and the TEA Party are bound by a single axle. Lets promise ourselves we’ll continue to be the grease for this mechanism of FREEDOM.
MBV
Shiroi Raion
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:40pmWell said, Mr. Coburn. Glad to have you with us and thank you for working to serve the people and respecting and obeying our Constitution. I’ve had enough of politicians simply buying votes, cowering to political (in)correctness, and recklessly pandering to special interests and cronies. Mr. Coburn nailed it.
Report Post »Although Mr. Coburn is retiring. Those who voted for him got it right. Thank you, Oklahoma. I wish my state understood. The Chick-Fil-A day was a big win here, but the big cities like Denver and Boulder (Colorado’s San Fransisco) get it wrong EVERY single time.
Flag-Man
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 5:26pmjust angry; which ones, please name them with proof
Report Post »hayesstephen
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 5:29pmThis is what happens when Liberals behave them selves. They can’t stand up against an informed educated opponent. They only are good at screaming, talking over and lying. I loved this vid.
Report Post »000degrees
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 6:04pmThat story came to an abrupt in didn’t it? Did the ms ers realize they had been schooled or did they just hit the wall and break their $1500 glasses???
Report Post »Red Meat
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 6:14pmOh, they get it alright. They just prefer to tote the commie line.
When will a Republican pol tell these dirt bags they’re out right liars? I’m sick of this beating around the bush nonsense.
Report Post »Gumbercules
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 7:40pmCoburn for VP! Seriously . . .
Report Post »lwillis59
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:27pmExactly Detroit.. We need to be the new Media..
Report Post »db321
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:01pmOlka you got a good one in Sen. Tom Coburn. I cannot believe MSNBC allowed this to go on – I loved it!
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:02pmI do remember hearing Coburn saying something about the Tea Party that was kinda off! I think you gotta search his comments to see if he is legit, but I think there was something Progressive about him!
Report Post »AWAKENEDAWARE
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:39pmTHROW ALL THE BUMS OUT ! Start OVER! If people like Rubio and West can win again, let them. Let’s cut the FAT (and I don’t mean in the budget). And TERMINATE those stupid lifelong priveledges that these dumbasses get. As far as “billion dollar aircraft carriers” etc, unless you want to learn to speak Far’si or Mandarin, you better be willing to spend the money you lily livered little MSNBC fuggs. NO WONDER NOBODY Watches your crappy network.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:55pmAll Paul bashers that post on The Blaze are cowards, all of them. That is all I can say.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 11:01pmWEST COAST PATRIOT…… ron paul memorabilia sales are down?
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 1:19amRepublicorp, one of the Paul bashers, welcome. I see you did not go to the other Blaze story from the link above and post, but glad to see you have some cojones to admit that you are just a Paul basher.
Report Post »sillyfreshness
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 1:27amMSNBC is the communist manifesto in corporate form. Big, rich, money hungry, greedy corporations like GE (that doesn’t pay taxes) that owns NBC and Microsoft that was ran by that Bolshevik billionaire Bill Gates that run a propaganda outlet to spew out their lies.
Report Post »leapingnomb
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 4:47amAnd this is why it’s easier for the left to cry racism than have a civil discussion on the TEA party.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:01amMost of the people that tune in to MSNBC are busy doing something else and just want some noise in the room. They don’t have natural noise available so they choose liberal noise as a substitute. Our mistake is that we actually listen to what the noisy libs say.
Report Post »resme
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:25amRepublicorp “Bomb muslim children because they may grow up evil”
Enough said.
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:42amMSNBC will tell you ‘the truth’ three or four different ways before they’d lie to you.
Report Post »AZindependent
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:14amSen. Coburn will be missed. We need more leaders like him, not less. Perhaps he will serve again post-collapse?
Report Post »hpyagl
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 6:58pmHey west coast
I don’t bash Ron Paul, I like to bash Ron Paul fanatic supporters like you. You are a sore loser Ron Paul lover! HAHA
Report Post »mtcountrygrl
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:54pmLiberals always want to cut defense spending…Defense spending is one of the only things the Federal govenment is SUPPOSED to spend money on. Yes we can audit them and make them more efficient but geez, why always defense?
Report Post »beckyspatflaveredstew
Posted on August 4, 2012 at 12:06amIf You read the article You will see clearly that Tom Coburn can be named among the Men.
Report Post »freeus
Posted on August 4, 2012 at 10:57amSen. Coburn sorry to see you go.
Report Post »tipical
Posted on August 4, 2012 at 11:07amMany people in America have fond memories of the journalist back in the days of Walter Leland Cronkite, Jr, who earned the title “the most trusted man in America”, Chester Robert “Chet” Huntley, David McClure Brinkley and Ernest Taylor Pyle. Most Americans knew these reporters by their nickname or their closing “Goodnight David and Goodnight Chet” or “That’s the way it was”. If the had any political agenda they separated it from their news reporting. The facts they reported was either eye witness accounts or had to be verified and re-verified before being broadcast on the airwaves. The managing Editors in their day were tough and would fire anyone if a lie or an untruth were published. Now it seams to be a practice or political innuendo. Neither the right or the left seem to have the honesty or the quality required in those days
Report Post »Former11BRAVO
Posted on August 4, 2012 at 12:47pmTheir giggles tell the whole story. They are blatantly biased and wholly unprofessional. I’d honestly go so far as to say much of the MSM (and MSNBC in particular) are actually traitorous in their reporting and commentary; intentionally mis-reporting established facts and twisting anything conservatives say so out of context as to be unrecognizable and fueling the self-loathing which has contaminated a once proud country.
Yep. I’m coming to think W. T. Sherman had the right idea – regarding the manner with which one should deal with/treat the (hostile) press. (I’ll leave it to you, dear reader, to discover my meaning on your own.)
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 4, 2012 at 2:13pmHpyagl, Sore loser? Who has lost yet? You show you are just a person with Fox star glazed eyes, listening to the establishment reporters. Establishment lover! HAHA
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on August 5, 2012 at 1:22pmThe logic will escape them. The minute the interview was over they are on to the next liberal talking point and completely forgot the lesson. He did the right thing and perhaps someone with a brain was watching and began to think about their position.
Report Post »Forwardscout
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 6:34pmWere have they gone??We don’t have men in DC, I belive that they are all socialist. They were not like that until they joined the one’s that are claming to be leaders in the senate and congress. I would like to know why they always look at Social Security and the Military to make cuts on. They say Social Security will run out of monry in 18 months. I say cut all the Foreign Aid and take that money and take care of America. I have never heard any congressmen or senators talk about all the money that they give to foreign countries, I belive they are filling their own pockets with part of it. Check it out, we give money to countries that are trying to kill our soldiers.
Report Post »Owt_Raged
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:08pmCoburn is correct. Our country and government strayed from our constitution, long, long ago. Our country was not designed to have the government involved in so much.
Wanting our government to return to the allowable duties, laid out in the Constitution would be the very best thing for our country.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:32pmgreat. So how many republicans are willing to eliminate unconstiutional programs?
Report Post »Medicaid, Medicare, DOE, D of Education, DEA…The list goes on
justangry
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:35pmOf course he’s right in this talk, but check out his voting record, please.
Report Post »http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/22085/thomas-coburn/13/civil-liberties-and-civil-rights
Blazebanned
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:53pm@soyboob aka encinom.
Report Post »All of those programs you listed, where created by democrats to buy the black vote,doesnt matter IF the repubs want to elminate them, dems wouldnt let them, idiot.
Blazebanned
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 5:00pm@justangry aka encinom.
Report Post »Posting his voting record means nothing, unless you have read every bill, in its entirety,so posting that link means nothing, except for the fact that you try to look intelligent,when in fact you have no clue the substance of any of those bills, idiot.
soybomb315_II
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 5:01pm@Blazebanned (aka “idiot)
Report Post »So you are saying the republicans shouldnt be against anything that was started by the democrats? wow
West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 5:12pmJustAngry, You are right, although he talks a good game, like a lot of them, he is a progressive in his soul. This is the problem with some people, they listen to the words from smooth talking snake oil medicine salesmen, and believe they are the one, but in reality they are wolves in sheep clothing guiding the sheep by the nose. If people would do as Glenn has told them countless times:
“Do not take my word for anything, do not listen to the media, do your own homework, research everything on your own.” – Glenn Beck
People say they listen to Glenn, but they do not take his advice.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 5:40pmBlazedBanned, Two of Coburns votes:
Dec. 1, 2011 S Amdt 1126 Prohibits Detention of U.S. Citizens Without Trial Amendment Rejected – Senate (45 – 55) Nay
May 26, 2011 S 990 Patriot Act Extension Concurrence Vote Passed – Senate
(72 – 23) Yea
These two vote are enough for me to realize that Coburn is not for the Constitution or Liberty!!
He also voted yea on
HR 666 – Admission of Evidence Seized Without a Warrant in Certain Conditions
The conditions are if the police say they thought they were within the bounds of the fourth amendment, evidence is admissible. So, as long as the police THINK they are not violating your rights, it is OK to do so.
How far are all of you willing to go? How many liberties are you willing to give up for the sake of safety? Benjamin Franklin seemed to think that even giving up one liberty meant you deserved neither.
Report Post »JediKnight
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 7:02pm@WestCoastPatriot:
HR 666 doesn’t say what you said it says. It says “Vote to pass a bill that relaxes the exclusionary rule by allowing evidence to be used in court if the police had a justifiable reason for obtaining the evidence without a search warrant” If the police had a justifiable reason. Not just “I thought it was ok” but “Here’s the reason we took that”. Who are they justifying it to? I presume the judge.
Report Post »1me2ao
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 8:03pmdepartment of education is the biggest joke in the world. no one can defend the actions of this department.
department of energy could be cut to 1/3 rd size and budget and no one would even know.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 9:53pmJedi, I have been trying to reply to you with the words from this bill ten times now, but The Blaze is blocking it!!! There must be something in the words of that bill that they do not want people to see? I will try another way. I did embellish on the wording, sorry. Look up the bill, the way it is worded bothers me. You see they use the term reasonable belief, and that is not a good term to have in any law. Can we convict someone on murder charges on a reasonable belief that they did it, or convict on burglary on a reasonable belief that they did it or issue a speeding ticket on reasonable belief someone was speeding? No. Read the bill and you will see what I mean, if The Blaze allows this post to go through.
Report Post »David, the Constitutional Libertarian
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:05pmGoing on the different venues of the MiniTru outlets, this is the level of intelligence these morons espouse. Once the socialist O Donnell recognizes they are looking like morons he changes the subject. Just like every good Democrat does.
You know how you can destroy every leftist on the news channels? Ask them if they believe in the rule of law. Ask them if they think those evil people that stole millions from the people through fraud and graft in the banks and Wall Street deserve to be prosecuted and thrown in prison. Once they say absolutely, then ask them why Jon Corzine has not been arrested and why they have not covered the theft of $1.6 Billion and his perjury to Congress a hundred times on their shows. When they begin to sputter and spew incoherent drivel, then ask them if it is because he is a Democrat and a buddy of Obama that has given his campaign 100s of thousands of dollars. BOOM. Game, Set, Match.
Report Post »kegbuna
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 7:20pmYea well Obama doesn’t control all of that, now does he? The House investigates Fast and Furious yet they don‘t seem to ask any questions about why these things haven’t been investigated. I’m not saying the right is to blame for these problems but to link the lack of prosecution to liberal ideals is ignorant at best, deceptive at its worst.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:59pm@KEGBOONA
The House is investigating it. Rep Issa is getting stonewalled by the DOJ & Obama, both. Google it.
A lot of people don‘t think it’s fair that the coach gets fired when the team is lousy; it’s because the coach is in charge!
Obama needs to understand the buck stops with him! His team is lousy and we are about to fire the coach!!
Report Post »kalli
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:03pmI hate to see Senator Coburn retire. He is truly an American who loves this country, a country in dire need of people who take their oaths of office seriously. There are very few politicians in DC who respect the Constitution today.
Report Post »Mobie1316
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:34pmHe steps down but not out remember “We are the Tea Party”. He knows this and with his knowledge We get stronger.
Report Post »Female
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:02pmCan he be our VP?
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:34pmNot under Romney…..
Report Post »22AUTOMATIC
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:57pmIf you get a chance read Coburn’s book called “Debt Bomb.” I extracted about twenty five pages of notes from it that have truly helped me see inside the U.S debt and governmental issues. He‘s a terrific writer and brings to light so much that the media doesn’t cover. If you don’t have time for the book check out the interview below with him and Charlie Rose. I remember catching it late night a few months ago and, once again, was thoroughly educated by the Senator. It is a must watch if you truly care about these subjects. Note: I wouldn‘t say put him in as VP but I would have him in Romney’s cabinet along with Paul Ryan. Those two great minds together could greatly assist Romney in turning around our economic situation.
http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/12329
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 5:22pmNo, because Romney isn’t going to win.
Report Post »pandora
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:02pmwow. Found: A true leader in the Senate.
Report Post »SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:42pmLook at Jeff Sessions he may be a hillbilly but he is a good watchdog.
Report Post »izukiddin
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:02pmIt is wonderful to see someone like Tom Coburn with whom I sometimes disagree take on the smarmy asses on msnbc. None of them know what they are talking about. A perfect example is the young, black, gender confused talking head who admitted he didn’t know about the enumeration of powers in the Constitution or where it could be found, but asked a smart alec question about where the constitution was being subverted and for how long it had been subverted and “why the Tea Party concern?”.
Report Post »angelcat
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:15pmI bet he isn’t invited to be a guest again.
Report Post »QuincySmith
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:01pmPlease explain, how is it that dingy mouse doubles down on false claims, and Sen Coburn is commended for apologizing because of these bogus, dirty, false, impossible-to-prove accusations.
Report Post »Kupo
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:00pmVery well spoken.
Report Post »Geopatriot
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:59pmTom Coburn is an outstanding Congressman. Both parties would do well to get rid of some of the “LIFERS” in Washington and get more “COBURNS” (people who are willing to make decisions for the good of the Republic). You can also see that no matter how many MSNBC News Contributors you stack against a COBURN, they will lose!
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:56pm““The Constitution is loaded with ‘No’s’. It’s not loaded with ‘Yes’, sirs”
Report Post »—————————————————-
And this is the EXACT problem our commie president has with it.
Unbelievable
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:11pmYou’re right.. he has stated he doesn’t like how our Constitution says “NO” to his socialist ways.
Report Post »isobamamadd
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:55pmTypical change the subject until the others can come up with something stupider to say..
Report Post »79USMC83
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:54pmOOH RAH !!! This man is a true PATRIOT and speaks from his heart.
Report Post »ComingUnglued
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:54pmThese people are not interested in the truth. They have their own agenda and have never watched and listened at any tea party event. They are perfectly happy to talk out of their arse. They won’t come to any event either because their whole world would collapse. Everything they heard and believed and were brainwashed about the tea party doesn’t exist. I don’t they think they could handle to shock and surprise that would occur.
We are trying to preserve this country for our kids. They just want their kids enslaved, black or white that is where we are headed, when are people going to wake up.
Report Post »OKNative
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:54pmSenator Coburn gets it! While he is often labelled (incorrectly I might add) as Mr. No, he is a true a statesman as there is in Washington today. He has identified so much duplication and waste and as a whole, Congress does not want to do anything about. Keep up the fight Senator Coburn. Most Americans stand behind you!
Report Post »fammus1
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 5:16pmLike he said the Constitution is filled with No’s, maybe he is
Report Post »Mr. Constitution. Way to pawn a gaggle of Obama lickers.
scuba13
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:53pmWhen dealing with clueless idiots, it’s not hard to make them look like fools.
Report Post »mtsnj
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:52pmWow we need many more like him.
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:52pmWhooooo!! Talk about getting schooled!! They got spanked, and they enjoyed it too!
Report Post »dublinthewagons
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:44pmThey were not smart enough to know they were spanked. Use full idiot Obama worshipers
Report Post »korbin
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:51pmToo bad he’s not running again I wonder how he voted on the NDAA, Patriot act? He failed to mention that “grown up” needs to be an oath keeper not oath breaker… oathkeepers.org
Report Post »pwatkins
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:51pmI’ve always liked Coburn and thank him for speaking up for we the people.
Report Post »bharris0
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:49pmArguing with liberals is a total waste of time. It is like trying to give a pig a bath and about as productive.
The liberals are so arrogant that they think they already know everything.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 5:20pmRoth
Niccolo Machiavelli made the very same point in his books “Art of War”. Utter ruthlessnes without remorse so that for centuries humanity will cringe at the thought of war.
Report Post »BloodSweatandTears
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 6:19pmWas it arrogance or complete ignorance? I know, any time he mentioned anything that required due diligence….crickets. Therefore, you’re right.
Report Post »woodyl1011fl
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 12:03amRR said to the effect “it‘s not that liberals are stupid it’s just that believe so much that is untrue.”
Report Post »And they believe they are smarter than the rest of us. Without understanding that they have been taught what is false but so indoctrinated that reason is gone and irrationality rules. MSM proves it everyday in every way.
FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:46pmWe should weaken our military and stop using the military as humanitarian aid and stop interfering in other countries affairs. If a country screws with us or becomes a direct threat to our safety we saturate the country with bombs to teach the citizens a lesson about their leaders just like WWII. Stop this “winning their hearts and minds” BS instill fear and move on. Here’s some news to people; some countries are filled with stupid people and need dictators to operate examples EGYPT, LEBANON.
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:58pmStop this “winning their hearts and minds” BS
I agree whole heartedly. I never received training on the military on how to this when I was in. All we learned was to blow things up, fix things that blows things up, or kill people.That’s what the military is for.
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:01pmSorry, my keyboard is acting stupid. I do know how to speak correctly.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:23pmHere here!
Military is for defeating enemies on a battlefield. Period.
The reason we have so much war is because A) we’ve expanded the mission to ridiculous objectives and B) we’ve used technology to make it palatable.
As many of you know, I’m one of those “Paulbots” (hat tip to kickin). I will be the LAST person in the room to vote to go to war. I promise you that. HOWEVER, when I’m in I would VOTE TO GO TO WAR. Undeclared wars are unconstitutional as far as I’m concerned. So once I make that vote, I’d make the following war the most horrific destruction that mankind has seen. Total destruction. Lay waste to everything and everyone. I’d make the whole planet stop and shudder at the thought of ever going to war again. Every time in the future that some nation thought it would be prudent to engage in conflict the could reflect on the history books and see what war really is.
And once that war was over, I’d work on healing and rebuilding and trading and making things and engaging in peaceful relations with any nation on earth that would do so.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:34pmRothbardian, Ron Paul could not have said it better.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 5:24pmwe are all rothbardians now
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:46pmCoburn, you don‘t get the fact that we are trying to take the Senate from the Democrats this November or you wouldn’t be endorsing and funding a Democrat for the Senate.
Report Post »lel2007
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:05pmPlease, where is information regarding Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) endorsing and funding a 2012 democrat senate candidate?
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:23pmEver heard of Google? He’s endorsed and sent $250 to Manchin of W.VA.
Report Post »Too_Far_Gone
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:43pmYep ..
http://www.redstate.com/spoasteph97/2012/07/23/breaking-news-senator-tom-coburn-r-donates-250-to-senator-joe-manchin-d/
Report Post »john vincent
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:44pmWell done Mr Coburn
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:44pmmsnbc drones are constitutionally illiterate,what’s the story here? We’ve expanded the federal government outside the range of what our Founders ever thought the federal government would have a hand in. You can‘t go anywhere that the federal government doesn’t have involvement and wrongly so, because quite frankly, even though we’re well intentioned, we’re not very good at doing these things.” The senator is correct and the road to hell is paved with good intentions and this regime is paving the way that’s for damn sure.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:53pmIndeed, and this is the final chance in November we have to turn it around and begin stopping the madness that we have allowed to go unchecked for so long.
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 3:55pmI would disagree on the good intentions part. I believe the liberals intentions are to make us a non-super power but they must do it covertly because the American people want to maintain our super-power status. I believe most liberals would gladly hand over our sovereignty to the U.N. so that we would be ruled by the leftist elites (like themselves).
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:15pmThe Left as a whole is composed with Stage One Thinkers as witnessed with their love affair with bumper stickers that cover the back of their cars.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 4:36pm@squid
Report Post »How right you are. The Left makes up most of the blame America First Crowd. They see other Countries simply reacting to our Hegemony as the reason for most of the Worlds problems and our Military as the club used to force ourselves on the World.
Too_Far_Gone
Posted on August 2, 2012 at 5:01pm“msnbc drones are constitutionally illiterate,what’s the story here?”
They made that clear in the clip , probably the only reason Coburn didn’t get much of a fight from these clowns ..
Report Post »