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Senate Blocks Reid’s Debt Bill as White House, Congressional Talks Go On
- Posted on July 31, 2011 at 1:37pm by
Madeleine Morgenstern
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Republicans have blocked action on a Democratic approach to resolving the debt-ceiling crisis. It was a test vote largely unrelated to the talks between the White House and congressional leaders on a compromise that can clear both the House and Senate.
The Senate voted 50-49 to clear a procedural hurdle toward consideration of a bill put forth by Majority Leader Harry Reid. But 60 votes were needed to advance the measure.
The outcome of the vote on Sunday did not affect the effort to come up with a compromise that would avert a first-ever default in which the government would be unable to meet all its debt obligations.
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Comments (97)
showmerancher
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:49pmThere is no telling what Obama kind of deal Obama may make, as his decision-making capabilities and rationality as Commander-in-Chief has come into question. Obama provided his own biggest campaign hurdle (and perhaps grounds for impeachment on diminished mental capacity) when in multiple rants he told his own military who are putting their lives on the line in battlefields around the world (not by their own choice) that he would withhold their paychecks. The military payroll is $2.9 Billion per month. The government takes in $200 Billion per month do the math. The Department of Education gets/spends $20 Billion per month alone… is there a rational person in this country that doesn’t believe that perhaps we should pay the military before the DOE?
Wonder why independents are running from Obama in droves? You don’t have to like what the military is doing, but that isn’t their choice… and withholding THEIR paychecks is an insane act. Virtually the same argument can be made for veterans, many of whom have been wounded while putting their lives on the line. The veterans retirement/benefits is also only $2.9 Billion per month. Less than $6 Billion total for the military... and its Commander-in-Chief would rather withhold their paychecks... probably so as not to disrupt welfare, food stamps, public housing and education monies for illegals.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 3:05pmThe people Obama is appealing to are the lowest common denominators amongst Americans. They’re uneducated, worthless and spineless; and damned proud of it.
I still find it astounding that as time goes by, the average American is more easily duped than ever before.
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 3:31pmWe have to pay the DOE before the military – union people need it more than the military and everyone knows that as of yet military people are non union.
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 3:35pmThe DOE has to be paid before the military. Everyone knows that the DOE is union and the military is non union even though the military has more people.
Report Post »CNK
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 3:41pmA liberal would die before they stop payments on Wellfare, Foodstamps & Public Housing. Afetr all that’s how they buy votes for elections.
Report Post »greenbee
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 4:58pmYou are SOOOOOOO wrong.. you sound like a hillbilly who don’t know what is going on in the world. When it comes to OBAMA we don’t necessarily love Obama for his policies, diplomacy, and ethics, we love him because we HATE republicans so much
Report Post »@ Coyote2
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 5:05pmIs Reid really as dumb as he looks or is he made up to look that way?? Just wonderin…
Report Post »@ Coyote2
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 5:35pmIs Reid really as dumb as he looks or does his cosmetician just make him up to look like that because he’s a liberal?
Report Post »dscon
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 6:57pmbee
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 4:58pm
You are SOOOOOOO wrong.. you sound like a hillbilly who don’t know what is going on in the world. When it comes to OBAMA we don’t necessarily love Obama for his policies, diplomacy, and ethics, we love him because we HATE republicans so much..
so your principals are based on hate…………..
Report Post »you are a divider as your prez the great divider………
class war activists and no less!
artistskeptic
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:39pmHarry Reid and BHO are the second and third worst SOBs ever elected to public office (yes 2nd and 3rd because I’m old enough to remember Jimmy Carter).
Report Post »MHP
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 10:26am@greenbee
So you are a crook or maybe even in the mob like your master is?
Report Post »fyvagirl
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:47pmsupport those who are there for us and fire the rest!!! really wish all of them would stop the games with our nations future!!
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:43pm“that would avert a first-ever default”
Could you idiots please not perpetuate an utter lie? Is it too much to ask to do your own homework instead of parroting the leftist’s battle cry???
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 4:37pmWhy aren’t by lines given to these “AP” articles . It would be informative to know WHO wrote this Default Crap for the AP
Report Post »tutone
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:40pm2012 election cannot come soon enough. Lets elect more of the strong freshman/women and root out these career politicians that don’t know how to listen to the American people. Balanced budget amendment is the only way to go.
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:34pmamendment 14, this is what the left wing progressive have a hard on for. if obama don’t use it he will lose their support, they want him to be more of a dictator than a president, and he is a soros,union puppet.the left is trying to force their will on america and this is just a small part of their plan, just listen to van jones,saying we have to force obama to do what they want, obama will use the 14th amendment,and when he does, the whole damn thing will come crashing down on him, the economy will get worse because the america people will see for sure that we are be coming a communist,dictated government and will stand to fight back,so please get prepared even more,because tough times are own there way.
Report Post »Nathan
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 6:58pmAmen, sir! Barak doesn’t have the balls to do it, but if the commies that fund his campaign succeed in forcing his hand, you will be absolutely right.
Report Post »Look4DBigPicture
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:30pmI only heard the last 4 members cast their votes on CSPAN, but heard Reid cast the last vote. I’m having trouble following all of this nonsense. I‘m almost positive Reid’s vote way ‘nay’. Does anyone know why Reid cast a vote against his own bill?
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 3:13pmIf you go back and look, he has done that on major legislation for the past 2 years. He voted nay on the healthcare bill twice, I think. Some tricky maneuver, I suppose.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 4:12pmHe changed his yes to a no to prevent cloture on the bill~maybe to bring back a revised version.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 4:38pmEmbarrasment
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:30pmSTAND STRONG T E A …the people in Congress work for US and WE The PEOPLE need to remind them OFTEN!!!!
Report Post »OhSuzieQ
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 3:30pmSho Nuff!!
Report Post »SPOT_OF_TEA
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:27pmThis is going to be worse than the democrats 1st proposal
Report Post »Sam Brown
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:27pmTar and feathers then ride em out of town on a rail. Enough of their BS!!!
Report Post »paladin44cal
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:17pmEveryone email the Nevada Governor to recall Harry reid for the sake of the nation!!
Report Post »Jediusetheforce
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:17pmWhat are the details of the Bill???? I am sick of not knowing what is in the bills they are voting for. Maybe no one knows because it is one big cluster F***.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:31pmhttp://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/b_three_sections_with_teasers/active_leg_page.htm
Can’t any of you do your own research (as Glenn Beck has instructed)? Sheesh!
Report Post »Look4DBigPicture
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:31pmIf you turn to CSPAN, they’ll give you the title and author of the bill during the debates and voting process. You can find the bills on-line.
Report Post »oneeyedjake
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:40pmI wish they would let us in on all of this, but they wont.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 5:08pmHow’s this for research?
Sorry….. they were not voting on the Debt Ceiling Bill. Go here and see what they were really voting on at 1pm, today, July 31, 2011. It was S. 627 (Faster FOIA Act of 2011 ). That’s what the Senate website says. What am I doing wrong? I don’t understand this? And Reed voted nay! That‘s why I went to the website because I couldn’t believe my ears.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=1&vote=00122
Report Post »JUSTANOTHEROPINION
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:15pmHow this guy keeps his job eludes me.
Report Post »I.Gaspar
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:15pmThe repubs asked for this by letting obama shove the lame duck CR down their throats in Decenmber.
Report Post »Boehner was a lousy leader then and a lousy leader now.
The ONLY hope we have left are the new small gov’t conservatives. We need to support them and add many more in both houses in 2012.
I wish Rubio could run.
GaryInTheMiddle
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:11pmAs pleased as I was to see Pelosi lose her Speaker of The House position in 2010 I will be even more thrilled to see Harry lose his leadership position. He is such an empty suit and wothless POS. His union buddies won’t be able to save his beacon this time.
Report Post »Profx72
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:10pmThose who continue to believe that “One Man” caused the problem or that “One Person” can solve it scare the hell out of me. Blaming President Obama is as big of a cop out as blaming President Bush: it’s BIGGER than that. I‘m glad they’re demanding more, but let’s not lose our focus. The problem stems from a gradual…dare I say PROGRESSIVE…corruption of our entire form of Government. It will take more than just shifting from one person or one Party to another to fix it.
Report Post »http://www.maverickvoice.com
Mr. Oshawott
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 3:48pm@ProFX72
Absolutely well said! Barack Obama (or should I say Barry Soetoro) is just the latest of the many modern-day progressives that are making good of ruining our nation. Progressivism always transcends party affiliation.
Report Post »SHOESHINEBOY
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:05pmI thought that Harry’s Plan was the ““only”” one that could get passed…..
Lord Barry will get his tax increase, so he can keep spending and need more tax increases, so he can keep spending, so he will need more tax increases….
Report Post »North_Star
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:01pmIt is amazing to me the damage one man can do to our country. (hint: HR)
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:05pmHow in the world do the Republicans, who just happen to be in the minority, block the democratic Bill? They can only do it with a few reasonable, intelligenct democrats.
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:07pmOoops, there are no intelligence, reasonable dems.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:14pmSHEEP, it’s called the “Filibuster”. You really need to do more homework.
Report Post »CitizenVetUSA
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:45pmCurrent Senate: 57 Democrats , 41 Republicans and 2 Independents
Report Post »awall1231
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:01pmBought some silver yesterday. should be a great investment by tomoroow.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:17pmLong time ago a friend needed money and told me he had silver. Said it costs $3.50 per ounce, so I bought it for fun and to help him out. I moved a couple years ago and found it. WOW! 347 ounces. WOW!!!!!
Report Post »UlyssesP
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:00pmBlocks damnitt with an ‘s’. BLOCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Report Post »Jediusetheforce
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 1:59pm. Yeah spread the crap on the democrats. Watch Cspam(n) and listen to the dems lie. In fact listen to both sides and then decide. America is like a ship tossed at sea never deciding where to sail. Sad Sad
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 1:54pmIf these talks “fail” we do not go into default. The debt ceiling is not raised. the only way the country goes into default is if the potus chooses to order the debt payments to not be paid, and instead pays for his pet projects. The law requires the debt payments be made. The same with Social Security, only if obama orders nonpayment will seniors not be paid.
I certainly hope the potus defaults…… these are clear cut impeachable offenses.
Report Post »Go ahead obama default.
JUSTANOTHEROPINION
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 1:51pmThe members of both houses should work on farms as fast and furiously they spread manure.
Report Post »Slap Shot
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 1:47pmYour all fired, go home you useless pieces of sh*t.
Report Post »Jediusetheforce
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:10pmThe Dems that is.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 1:45pmGee, who would have guessed this would go down to the wire with the Republicans getting both screwed And blamed??……..Me!!!!!!!
Report Post »cabnetdude
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 1:43pmWelcome ladys and gents to the three ring circus tent titled “Hope & Change“ that is ”I hope to become dictator and change your freedoms into slavery”. “But let be clear, I,I,I, me, me ,me! Watch ..here it comes.
Report Post »Oh My God
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 1:58pmI”ve been saying that all along. king obama-ma ma
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