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Senate Ratifies START Treaty

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Senate on Wednesday ratified an arms control treaty with Russia that reins in the nuclear weapons that could plunge the world into doomsday, giving President Barack Obama a major foreign policy win in Congress’ waning hours.

Thirteen Republicans broke with their top two leaders and joined 56 Democrats and two independents in providing the necessary two-thirds vote to approve the treaty. The vote was 71-26.

The accord, which still must be approved by Russia, would restart onsite weapons inspections as successors to President Ronald Reagan embraced his edict of “trust, but verify.”

Vice President Joe Biden presided over the Senate and announced the vote. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton observed the vote from the Senate floor. Both had lobbied furiously for the treaty’s approval.

“The question is whether we move the world a little out of the dark shadow of nuclear nightmare,” Foreign Relations Committee Chairman John Kerry, D-Mass., said to his colleagues moments before the historic tally.

Calling the treaty a national security imperative, Obama had pressed for its approval before a new, more Republican Congress assumes power in January.

The Obama administration has argued that the United States must show credibility in its improved relations with its former Cold War foe, and the treaty was critical to any rapprochement. The White House is counting on Russia to help pressure Iran over its nuclear ambitions.

The New START treaty, signed by Obama and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev in April, would limit each country’s strategic nuclear warheads to 1,550, down from the current ceiling of 2,200. It also would establish a system for monitoring and verification. U.S. weapons inspections ended last year with the expiration of a 1991 treaty.

“START” stands for Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty.

Obama overcame the opposition the Senate’s top two Republicans – Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and Jon Kyl of Arizona, the GOP point man on the treaty.

Peeved by the Democrats’ interruption of the eight days of treaty debate for other legislation, McConnell accused the White House of politicizing the process.

McConnell said national security was the main concern, “not some politician’s desire to declare a political victory and hold a press conference before the first of the year.”

The ratification was a turnaround for a treaty whose fate was uncertain just a month ago. Conservatives railed that the pact would limit U.S. options on missile defense, lacked sufficient procedures to verify Russia’s adherence and deserved more time for consideration than the abbreviated postelection session.

Republican Sen. Mark Kirk of Illinois, who won Obama’s Senate seat, dismissed the treaty for imposing “marginal reductions in the Russian arsenal.”

The fierce opposition diminished quickly as former Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton, six former Republican secretaries of state and much of the nation‘s military and foreign policy experts called for the treaty’s ratification.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Joint Chiefs of State Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen pressed for approval, with Mullen simply telling senators earlier this week, “the sooner, the better.”

Weeks after Republicans routed Democrats at the polls – seizing control of the House and strengthening their numbers in the Senate – Obama has prevailed in securing overwhelming bipartisan approval of a tax deal with Republicans, getting repeal of the 17-year-old ban on openly gay military members and winning approval of the treaty.

The treaty capped a hefty yearlong record of legislation for the Democratic-controlled Congress and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev. – a massive overhaul of the health care system, new financial regulations and a food safety bill as well as the postelection measures.

The treaty vote exposed divisions within the Republican Party that could stretch into the 2012 presidential and congressional elections. Obama got the treaty with the help of several GOP Senate moderates who split with possible White House hopefuls, some of the fiercest critics of the accord.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney opposed the pact; Sen. Scott Brown, R-Mass., who faces re-election in 2012, voted for it. Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said the treaty was not in the country’s interest; Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, backed it. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich described it as an “obsolete approach that’s a holdover from the Cold War;” Sen. Johnny Isakson, R-Ga., supported it.

Comments (188)

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  • gomo
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 4:02pm

    PERPETUAL TERM LIMITS – We don’t need term limits. We just need to vote for other people in everytime a Congress person is up for re-election regardless of the job they are doing. “Politcal Power” corrupts a majority of the time!

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    • Diamondback
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 6:31pm

      We need to reform their pay, benefits and retirement program first or we’ll just have a bunch of high paid government leech slugs out there with some of the best retirement benefits in the world – and all at the expense, with no expense spared, of the American taxpayer.

      I mean, like, you know, like send me to DC for 2 years then send me back home with my retirement package intact. See what I mean, like, you know, that would be like, really, you know, KOOOOLLLLL!.

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  • neverending
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:57pm

    I think they have forgotten there was an election plus anybody that thinks ANYONE can beat barry boy in 2012 needs to think again. Once again he managed to stick it to the American people and he’s not done yet

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  • mdlwoods
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:54pm

    Beginning with SCOTT BROWN!

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  • mdlwoods
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:52pm

    I am going to go find a complete list of those RINO traitors! Then, those up for re-election in 2012, I will be campaigning against and donating money to their opponents, no matter who they are!

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    • ragnarb
      Posted on December 24, 2010 at 10:14am

      What treaty? The russians haven’t ratified it yet. In fact the lower parliament ( I guess similar to our congress) just voted to postpone a vote on it until they could review it!

      I wonder if they will even ratify it? Once again obama kissed the ring of an enemy and we look foolish.

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  • fishstx777
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:51pm

    Mconnell needs to blacklist Murkowski , and the rest need to be replaced and voted out in 2012

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    • MMR
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:54pm

      She is a sore loser, couldn’t handle losing, so she ran on her own.

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    • PatriotDaze
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 4:09pm

      and she WON!!!
      woohooo…..ALASKANS dontchyaknow……reelected her!

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    • PatriotDaze
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 4:10pm

      will of the people and all

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    • MMR
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 4:19pm

      Thats the sad part. They reelected her.

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    • PatriotComeLately
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 5:12pm

      But did AK re-elect her. Seems to be a LOT of scuttlebutt about voting irregularities

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  • longhorngirl11
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:50pm

    I agree with Cubber. They ALL have to go. I believe even the Republicans have forgotten that there was a November election.

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  • BoilitDown
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:47pm

    It’s incredible how much work the 2012 Congress will have to untangle the Obama messes. Also the amount of work we will have to do in vetting candidates and electing them to the 2012 Congress.

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  • neverending
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:46pm

    Obama and all the Rhinos sure stuck it to all of us. little barry boy will be laughing all the way to his umteenth vacation.

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  • ADDICTED TO TRUTH
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:43pm

    Who thinks it’s only going to get worse until we finally crack. If January does not bring a different tone to Washington, we are in EXTREME trouble.

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  • chickenlittle
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:42pm

    Time to target 13 RINOS.

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    • chickenlittle
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:48pm

      You’d expect it from demidiots… they would sell out for anything… but I consider the Republicans who crossed the aisle on this to be traitors to both their party AND this country.

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  • Mr.Nick
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:39pm

    Translation….. The US disarms its self while Russia only pretends to…

    You know so in 20-30 years from now [if we even last that long] the US will be at the mercy of the union of Marxist nations..

    Because Marxist nations are so wonderful and honest and the would NEVER take advantage of gullible idiots such as Obongo and his minions..

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    • neverending
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:43pm

      It won’t take that long.

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    • time4termlimits
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 4:05pm

      No, it will not take that long. But here is what WILL happen. When it all comes falling down around everyone’s ears those who have been most complacent and disengaged will flip out. “What is this all about”….”I can’t believe this”, “when did we lose those rights”….Its over. Progressives have, after 100 years, created the final momentous thrust to destroying this country. I think our creator is looking down upon this mess and thinking, “why would you turn your backs on the gift I have given you? You’ve turned your backs on the principles your founders used to create this country. You don’t like freedom? Then you have earned your misery”
      Ben Franklin said they gave us a Republic if we could keep it. Sorry Mr. Franklin, we blew it!

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  • MMR
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:36pm

    This is one huge mistake for America.

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  • wash1776
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:28pm

    This should be no surprise to anyone. The congress and the white house (more like the black house with all the evil they are pulling) are deliberately trying to destroy this country as the Founding Fathers made it. Problem for them is the country is pretty much aware of this and are fighting back. Witness November. We can do more house cleaning in 2012, Obummer has to go. He is not a true American—figuratively and in reality. He was born in Kenya. It has been some time ago, but a segment of a newscast showed a reporter that had gone to kenya to interview his grandmother. She was present at his birth and said that is where he was born. The Hawaiian birth certificate is a phony. Obummer and his cohorts have spent over $1million keeping this as much under wraps as possible. TIME FOR HIM TO GO BACK TO KENYA!

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    • PatriotDaze
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:45pm

      I feel sorry that you rigidly hold to this view. It is certainly, however, your right. Sort of like believing that early man and dinosaurs lived concurrently, even though every bit of verifiable evidence points to the contrary. But at least recognize that habitually restating these opinions does not make it so…..only serves to marginalize your opinions….and that the vast majority tune you out.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:47pm

      Damion I think we should change your name to Barry,
      Barry maybe we should call you Barrack ?

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    • psst
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 4:07pm

      @ Don’t worry about what another poster says about the vast majority tuning you out.
      58% believe as you do.
      That‘s a poll you won’t hear from the MSM. or even Fox for that matter.For damn sure, not by Beck.
      Not to worry. The Truth will be outed, sooner or later.

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    • wash1776
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 5:53pm

      @PATRIOTDAZE. As usual, always waiting in the wings to put someone down. What I said is the truth. I am not aware that you were appointed judge and jury of everyone on this site. Do you go to other sites and put everyone down or is just this one that is blessed with your presence? MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ANYWAY MR. CRABAPPLE

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  • pamela kay
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:28pm

    What is going on here? If January doesn’t give us the answers and solutions that we expect all should be held accountable. If they reverse some of these things who will end up looking like the bad guy? I think that obama will come out selling like a rose and the GOP like a bunch of sissy’s. Our job has just gotten tougher and their jobs have gotten weaker in the eyes of those who helped get them elected.

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  • jimster047
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:27pm

    If you watched this vote on c-span all their giggles and back slapping tell you all you need to know. Another win for progressives and rino’s. If they like it enough said.

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:42pm

      Let’s see how they feel November 2012 … when we SLAP them! And not on the back!

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:44pm

      they ALL work for the same Lucifer !!!!

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    • mrclean
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 7:14pm

      catb

      We won’t make it to 2012.

      Time is up………..let’s roll

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  • code green
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:24pm

    The congress has done to the U.S. what Barnie Frank likes the best.
    B.O.H.I.C.A .

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    • chickenlittle
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:53pm

      “The question is whether we move the world a little out of the dark shadow of nuclear nightmare,” Foreign Relations Committee Chairman John Kerry, D-Mass., said to his colleagues moments before the historic tally.

      Really????? You demidiot Kerry… you “moved” the wrong way!

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  • RECOVERING-LIBERAL-IN-WOODSIDE-CA
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:21pm

    How can we be so blind? Our enemies must think we are either blind, stupid or suicidal. Since our enemies, within and outside of our borders, are so passionate about destroying our way of life, they will be successful in their quest unless we show the same passion to protect our western culture. WAKE UP… THIS IS NOT A DRILL!!!!

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  • time4termlimits
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:21pm

    I give up….I can’t watch this crap anymore. Washington is out of control and I am losing confidence that January will change anything. When will the American people really stand up and say enough is enough? My guess is, they won’t. The year of America’s death, 2010.

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    • StIves
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:42pm

      You summed it UP, I’m feed up too and am sick of watching it all unravel with greed followed by stupidity!

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    • avenger
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 4:28pm

      dude…buy guns,ammo and gold. bad shet is coming down the pike…

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  • bulldawg
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:19pm

    It has become a sad day when our representatives have forgotten why they serve this great nation. Our founding fathers gave us a nation to protect and our days will be numbered by our short falls from what we have become.
    http://www.weeklyrepublic.com

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  • AmericanMomma
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:19pm

    Ridiculous!

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  • Quad-rip-legic
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:19pm

    Time to impose term limits!

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    • Libertarian
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 6:37pm

      It is political positioning, it is a means for Obama to portrait himself as a moderate, it is more so a distraction.

      We still have M.A.D. regardless, people, do not worry we can still obliterate the world. The Heritage Foundation wrote up a piece on this subject and although they oppose it, it is a moot treaty.

      We are in a cold war, its called economic warfare. Instead, the espionage is taking place through a de facto 4th branch of government ran by a man named Ben Bernanke.

      The economy is on the brink of collapse and the current strategy by the administration and our legislative branch to distract us with the Dream Act, New Start Treaty, Don’t Ask – Don’t Tell, Terrorist threats to “salad” lol, Healthy – Hungry Free Kids Act, (2) Food “Safety” bills et al.

      Overload us with information so that the conversation changes. Its like debating a liberal on an issue, we talk about economy and end up attempting to solve the worlds hunger problem.

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  • Ironmaan
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:16pm

    A win for China!
    http://guerillatics.com

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    • MrObvious
      Posted on December 23, 2010 at 2:55am

      1550 still leaves more than enough remaining deterrent. The only win for China, is that they’re not a part of the treaty. It’s not much of a win. Their strategic position remains behind that of the US and Russia.

      Anyway, it’s a done deal, unless Russia decides they have a problem with it.

      US strategic nukes and Russian strategic nukes – that’s pretty much all the treaty covers.
      It doesn’t cover existing non-US nukes (NATO, allies, …), US non-strategic nukes or defensive systems.

      Could a better more useful treaty have been negotiated? Probably; but, this one is what we have to work with; and, it’s better than nothing.

      As for China, well, no need for reductions to the 1550 level yet; as, they have all of about 180 installed warheads, that’s fewer nukes than France, which has 300.

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  • Les Better
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:16pm

    This clearly demonstrates that there is much work to be done, especially in the Senate.

    These mindless elitists, especially the Republicans, did not have the wherewithal to suck it up and tell MAObama and the Democrat/Socialist/Marxist/Progressive/Lefitst Party to stick their last minute attempt to force one more bit of unwise and unnecessary legislation through in the Lame Duck session.

    Remember who these traitorous rats were and vote them out of office at the earliest opportunity.

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    • Miguelito
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:37pm

      We need to be just as determined to save this country and our liberty as those are to destroy it! Those 11 Republicans need to go!

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    • MrObvious
      Posted on December 23, 2010 at 1:57am

      Overall the Treaty doesn’t seem harmful. After all, their only limiting strategic nukes. 1550 is still plenty of deterrent. If Russia backs out over our development of anti-missile systems, we’re no worse off than now. If inspections turn out to be insufficient, some whistle blower will let us know; and, we can deal with it then. There remain several RINOs who’ve yet to be removed from the Senate. We will eventually route them all; but, I’m not sure this treaty should be sighted as one of the reasons. There are much clearer reasons – plenty of them.

      Also, the Obamas’ campaign is already in full swing; as, they try to pretend they’re something other than themselves. The 1st Lady is getting on camera time as much as possible: doing that phony charity thing that people do when they need free advertising, showing up on school commercials, showing up on assorted TV shows, doing the trappings without the substance. The Prez is pretending he cut taxes, when he just signed an agreement to keep them from going sky high (no actual cuts took place; and, the new congress would have sent him a better retroactive plan to sign next year in any event). The new budget has more pork than an Hawaiian cook out, spending is still going through the roof and we can expect him to take credit for cutting it. The Prez is also doing the TV stuff.

      People aren’t buying what the Prez is selling anymore; but, that wont stop them from trying and playing the old propaganda tactic of repetition.

      We need to avoid focusing on any one thing; and, keep our eyes on what the other hand is doing as well.

      With all this flurry of activity going on, what’s next? What next worse thing are they up to?
      They only have until January. After that, the new House takes over and the Senate becomes much more evenly balanced. End runs around congress won’t last – and most of them can be overturned by lower court rulings. The new EPA rules come to mind. The larger companies effected will sue. Once the EPA looses, and they will, their choices will be: appeal (and loose again), find a way to appeal to the 9th Circuit and win one round for the short term, or back off.

      Just can’t shake the feeling that something far worse is in the works; but, don’t know what yet.

      Everyone keep your eyes open. Watch congress, the unions, the white house, the fed, the assorted social manipulation foundations, and the rest of the usual suspects.

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  • tower7femacamp
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:13pm

    how about some round up with your canola oil ?
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/industry-sectors/gm-strain-blows-organic-status-away/story-e6frg95o-1225975191363

    Will the food bill regulate the use of Round up ?
    what would a terrorist do ?

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  • tower7femacamp
    Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:11pm

    boy they are running on all cylinders today

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    • Cobra Blue
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:12pm

      Selling our soul to the Devil. A leopard doesn’t change his spots.

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    • cubber
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:12pm

      They ALL have to go. BE PREPARED.

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    • DimmuBorgir
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:14pm

      why would we give up weapons? it makes no sense. it’s gun enforcement on a global scale. the criminals will always have guns no matter how many bans you put on the lawful

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:17pm

      Somebody get a list of names, these a-holes gotta go.
      Does it say anything in that treaty about Russia NOT supplying Iran with the resources to make a nuke?

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:37pm

      Weaken the USA … way to go Congress .. .you have played right into the hands of the devils of the World … Nostrodamus is going to be proven right .. .don’t you people ever read?

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:39pm

      13 R’s (RINO’s) must be primaried and replaced …. TEA anyone?

       
    • BMartin1776
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:41pm

      Don’t be surprised by this it was one of the boy kings goals as a candidate. One of many items from his own mouth folks like myself warned others about but we were told to be quiet, shut up, stop being a racist, bigot, hater etc etc.

      Anyone actually believe the Russians will honor this treaty I have some land Id like to sell you in the middle east! While they “aren’t” increasing their nuke stockpiles they will be playing a hand with N Korea, Iran, Venezuela etc etc. All this treaty will do is make the US have one hand tied behind its back. Oh and dont forget the little uranium mining deal they will control on OUR own soil (in WY)!!

      Remember what the boy king said about fundamentally transforming the USA… its more like systematically destroying the USA http://www.savingtherepublic.com/FndmtlTrsn2SysDstrcn.html

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    • EgoBrain
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:43pm

      EVERYTHING is a matter of national security, with this president. EVERYTHING.

      Johnny Isakson, what a let down.

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    • snowleopard3200 {mix art}
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 3:58pm

      One question to consider is just what we gave away to the russians in regards to our own nations security and defenses; along with what concessions the Progressives have been given so they would support it’s passage in the senate.

      I mean, this administration refuses to admit a SLBM is launched by an enemy sub off of California at the time of rush hour; and they expect us to believe this treaty is really to our advantage?

      http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm

      Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}  
    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 4:04pm

      Wow! This particular thread should get some award for including the all-time least thought! Many of you have no idea why you would oppose START, so you just fall back on mindless slogans. The fact is, the only reason many of you can think of to hate START (having not taken more than a second to try to understand it) is that people you hate (not just disagree with, but hate) are for it. CobraBlue strings together two cliches, Dimmuborgir can only understand anything when he pretends we’re talking about handguns protected by the 2nd amendment and not bombs that can destroy the planet, Untameable-Kate seems to oppose START because of something that has nothing to do with what’s going on. BMartin at least tries to make an argument, but it is so full of vague nonsense that it really makes no sense at all. Classic stuff folks! This, my friends, is why no one will ever take you bunch of reactionary looneys seriously.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 4:05pm

      Oh.. and my post was too late to acknowledge Snowleopard’s insane conspiracy theory drivel, which completes the whole set!

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    • avenger
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 4:12pm

      so whats new…the marxist radicals are right on schedule destroying the USA !

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    • TexasCommonSense
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 4:26pm

      Does anyone really believe the Russians are going to uphold their end of the treaty?

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    • cessna152
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 4:31pm

      I have made a deal with the drug dealers in my neighborhood. I told them I would not carry a gun and they promised they would do the same…they would not hurt anyone and I think these criminals will keep their word as criminals are good at keeping their word. All is well…..

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 5:23pm

      Interesting Cessna, but you’ve got the whole analogy wrong. How about you keep your guns–the biggest and most powerful guns in the neighborhood–but get rid of the friggin’ nuclear bomb in your basement that threatens the whole neighborhood with annhilation!

      You see, you cannot really compare a nuclear weapon with a handgun. The difference in degree is far too great to make any such analogy meaningful. Please stop confusing the issue.

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    • tradexpertbuysell
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 5:27pm

      Now we should know all the politicians (including RINOs) that are probably in one way or another on Putin’s payroll. The military backs this. REALLY?! I don’t think so. Unless they are secretly trying to paint the progressives into a corner they won‘t be able to recover from it doesn’t make any sense whatsoever and puts US National security at grave risk.

      This is like Jimmy Carter on steroids. Mark my words, we are really going to live to regret this one. And damn lucky if we survive. But oh well, maybe the second comming is actually around the corner! NOT!

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    • NoRoomForSocialismHere
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 5:34pm

      Damn Obama his people and the 13 Progressive RINOs.

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    • CHIEFICCSW
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 5:38pm

      Why such a rush to Ratify this treaty? I don’t trust the Russians or our Government. Who know what is really going on. I think is all BS anyway.

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    • kreese
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 5:39pm

      Texascommonsense:

      Our politicians missed that part of the history lesson—it wasn’t taught anyway.

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    • NoRoomForSocialismHere
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 5:43pm

      We need to check for card-carrying commies and send them and their families to China with their companies and never let them visit our sacred soil again.

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    • Parkeralan
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 6:07pm

      Any and every Senator who voted for this sellout of our security is a traitorous bastard! They will be remembered and treated as such. I will donate to everyone who runs against them in either primary or general elections. When it comes time to execute them for their crimes, I will be first in line to pull the trigger.

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    • Parkeralan
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 6:12pm

      @Kate – No of course not Russia will arm Iran and we can’t give Israel a butter knife. This treaty does nothing to address the fact that russia out numbers us on tactical nukes by 20 to 1. This treaty is an outrage! Plain and simple, it is treason!

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    • NoRoomForSocialismHere
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 6:25pm

      We have been in danger of atomic/nuclear bombs since 1945.

      Not long ago Russia was broke, now they have money from selling arms and oil to OUR enemies and those enemies are not under any control or TREATY.

      I was on one of the backup carriers to the Cuban Crisis of 1962. Notice Obummer has not attempted to stop Iran from buying missiles from Russia and selling them to Venezuela…where is the intervention, even the drunken womanizing Kennedy done better than this

      Now the Progressive RINOs again, what was given to them to buy this, it had to be something special like it was for the recent Social Security cuts. Progressive RINOs have always tried to eliminate SS. It pays for its self that is if they would keep their thieving hands out of the private-fund, they use it to payoff their lobbyist and friends so taxes won’t be raised and the people/corporations won’t get mad.

      They don’t like for us to be protectionist for America’s sovereignty but they damn well protect the income of the wealthy since the first TEA Party. Yeah, the guy that owned the ship full of tea was the one that started the conflict with the British. He was one of the signers of the constitution I think. It is always about money on both sides

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    • 101
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 6:28pm

      Congress just bowed down to Russia and signed away or missile defense!
      Nice job on behalf of the lame duck *sswipes

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    • VanGrungy
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 6:50pm

      http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/12/why_america_needs_nuclear_arms.html

      But the world does not operate on postmodern American fantasies. The world operates on fear. The world operates on strength.

      Will America remain strong?

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    • snowleopard3200 {mix art}
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 7:21pm

      @Vangrungy

      The one thing the worst folks of the world understand is this – it is the terror from the application of force against them. Simply put, they bomb one of our cities, we wipe out their organization. The ruler of a nation launches an attack upon us, we respond with utter force to destroy them completely in the most savage means possible, with the shortest window needed.

      We survive as a nation based on what others fear will happen if this giant is awakened; not on just what we say, it includes what we WILL DO as well.

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    • Jsh1284
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 7:46pm

      Snow, good point …

      Nuclear Weapons are the ultimate deterrent. No nation would dare to invade or attack US with nuclear weapons as long as we have what is known as “Second Strike” capability! What SECOND STRIKE means is .. if China launches on us, we can pretty much take their first wave of hits and STILL retaliate and destroy their entire nation in one fell swoop with ICBM’s, Sub-Launched ICBM’s and via bombers/cruise missiles.

      What every nation wants is FIRST STRIKE capablity. That means .. we can hit them with nukes to such an extent that they can’t retaliate. I think RUSSIA and CHINA .. both WANT to have first strike on the U.S. because if they get that they DON’T have to fear us anymore!

      We aren’t going to hold the Russians accountable for their actions on the treaty. We will simply be TRUSTING them that they are going to do RIGHT. On the flip-side it seems as is they will be making SURE we honor OUR side of the agreement. It ain’t right, folks … however still .. we are a force to be reckoned with .. START treaty or NO START treaty ..

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    • independentvoteril
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 9:00pm

      REMEMBER who the REPUBLICANS who went along with this are.. THEY were the same ones that bowed to BUSH and look what happened.. now they are bowing to Obama.. he got through EVERYTHING he wanted BUT the Dream Act.. and the boobs would have passed that too if they weren’t to scared to go home and face the people.. EVEN up to selling out our country with the START TREATY.. these that went along DESERVE to be BOUNCED real HARD..

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 9:42pm

      I found this .. it has who sold out .. not all 13 but those who are up for election and why this is bad for you Obamatrons who go along with O and the New World Order according to Soros mentality.

      REPUBLICAN SELL OUTS

      http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/rnr/2126242196.html

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    • jzs
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 10:55pm

      This treaty is a continued extension of others limiting nuclear weapons since Nixon, including ones initiated and signed by Ford, Reagan and George H. W. Bush (won’t mention Democrats here!). Reducing the number of nuclear weapons makes the world safer as Reagan spoke eloquently to when he called for a nuclear free world .

      With three, four, five times the reductions of nuclear weapon called for by this treaty, the US and Soviets both have the weapons needed to destroy every man, woman and child in the world many times over, and the treaty maintains that dubious power with both first or second strike capabilities. MADD is still alive and well.

      What’s frightening to me is those of you claim to be Christians, but who rail against anything that reduces the destructive power of the world. Ten, maybe 20 of the 1500 nuclear weapons allowed the treaty would utterly destroy both Iran and North Korea. That leaves 1480 to kill everyone in Russia about five, ten, twenty times and lay to waste the rest of the world with radioactive fallout. A tiny fraction of 1480 bombs would suffice for Russia, which they know as well as we.

      Jesus said “blessed be the peacemakers.” The military supports this, as does every President, Secretary of State, and Secretary of Defence who is still alive. What’s scary to me that you guys think we need all these weapons.

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    • TotallyBelievableGuy
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 11:05pm

      Rahhhhhhh gonna lash out at nothing. I am the conservative reactionary fear machine! Right-wing media, i am your tool! Point me in the right direction and i will write snarky comments about it and make mindless slogans concerning the matter without actually adressing it!

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    • Rick in Iowa
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 11:08pm

      Of course they ratified it. There’s nothing but a bunch of neo-russians in our congress now anyway. How do we dare expect anything better from these people.

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    • dawgPound
      Posted on December 22, 2010 at 11:49pm

      I don’t know what that treaty is but i know its bad cuz obama wants it.

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    • tradexpertbuysell
      Posted on December 23, 2010 at 1:16am

      ACTION ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Isakson and Lugar need to be removed from the senate foreign relationship committee ASAP. They are compromised on security issues that would allow Russia to sell the capability to Hugo Chavez for the missile that would take out all communication and power grids in the US. I would even say they are in on a crisis that the Obama regime is probably trying to engineer that would put us all under complete and total control. I am beginning to more clearly see what these Rhino Republicans and Socialist Democrats are really up to and it is not good. Come January they need to be investigated and thrown out of office or possibly thrown in jail for possible treason.

      We have our work cut out for us!

      Reference:

      Senators Who Sold Out
      By Dick Morris

      With the new Republican power in Washington, it is doubly important to keep a close eye on the doings of GOP senators and congressmen to spot those who are straying from orthodoxy, seduced by power and the insider clubiness that characterizes Washington.

      In the lame-duck session, we want to draw attention to six Republican senators who voted with the Democrats on a key issue. We should all bear their apostasy in mind and, in particular, make them mindful of the possibility of primary challenges to their re-nomination.

      Two senators, in particular, deserve to have primary challengers take them on in 2012 — Tennessee’s Bob Corker and Mississippi’s Thad Cochran. Both men voted for the START treaty which conceded a permanent edge in nuclear weaponry to Russia. While the treaty provided for equal and reduced stockpiles of strategic warheads, it did nothing to address the vast piles of tactical nuclear warheads held by the Russians. The Russians have 10,000 of these battlefield nuclear weapons piled up in the stockpile while we have only a few hundred.

      In addition, START’s preamble blocks the U.S. from developing missile defenses, now especially important in light of North Korea’s and Iran’s expanding capacities.

      Both Corker and Cochran face re-election in 2012. They should both be challenged for the nomination by men who put our need for national security above appeasing the Russians. Having suppressed democracy, wiped out free speech, taken over all the media, nationalized their oil and energy industry, invaded Georgia, enabled the Iranian nuclear program, and tried to establish a natural gas monopoly in Europe, what else does Putin need to do before Corker and Cochran realize that appeasement won’t work?

      Bob Corker’s vote for START probably stems from the insider-old boy network on the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee on which he sits. Sen. Johnny Isakson of Georgia, who also voted for START, sits alongside him on the Republican minority on the committee. Led by Sen. Richard Lugar, the ranking GOP member on the panel, all three voted for START. Unfortunately, Isakson is not up for re-election until 2016. When he does come up for re-election, we hope that the citizens of Georgia’s Republican Party hold him to account.

      Lamar Alexander, also of Tennessee, backed START and faces re-election in 2014.

      In a previous column, we called attention to the defections of Republican Senators Tom Coburn of Oklahoma and Mike Crapo of Idaho from the ranks of fiscal conservatives. Both Coburn and Crapo voted for the recommendations of the Bowles-Simpson Deficit Reduction Commission which recommended cutting the deductions for home mortgages and charitable contributions by two-thirds for most taxpayers and urged the enactment of almost $1 trillion in new taxes.

      Coburn and Crapo only announced their intention to endorse the Commission report after they had been re-elected on November 2, 2010. Now they are safe in their seats until 2016. But we hope to be still writing columns by then and will remind the voters of those two conservative states how ill-served they were by their Republican senators.

      So who sold out?

      Thad Cochran, Mississippi
      Bob Corker, Tennessee
      Mike Crapo, Idaho
      Tom Coburn, Oklahoma
      Lamar Alexander, Tennessee
      Johnny Isakson, Georgia

      Let’s remember.

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    • MotherGoose
      Posted on December 23, 2010 at 10:26am

      To untameable-kate – Both of my RINO’s are going to get primaryfied over this one. We warned them and they did it anyway. Russia and Iran are both sending medium range missiles to Chavez, and this treaty is a MAJOR mistake.

      Grouped by Home State
      Alabama:Sessions (R-AL), NayShelby (R-AL), Nay
      Alaska:Begich (D-AK), YeaMurkowski (R-AK), Yea
      Arizona:Kyl (R-AZ), NayMcCain (R-AZ), Nay
      Arkansas:Lincoln (D-AR), YeaPryor (D-AR), Yea
      California:Boxer (D-CA), YeaFeinstein (D-CA), Yea
      Colorado:Bennet (D-CO), YeaUdall (D-CO), Yea
      Connecticut:Dodd (D-CT), YeaLieberman (ID-CT), Yea
      Delaware:Carper (D-DE), YeaCoons (D-DE), Yea
      Florida:LeMieux (R-FL), NayNelson (D-FL), Yea
      Georgia:Chambliss (R-GA), NayIsakson (R-GA), Yea
      Hawaii:Akaka (D-HI), YeaInouye (D-HI), Yea
      Idaho:Crapo (R-ID), NayRisch (R-ID), Nay
      Illinois:Durbin (D-IL), YeaKirk (R-IL), Nay
      Indiana:Bayh (D-IN), YeaLugar (R-IN), Yea
      Iowa:Grassley (R-IA), NayHarkin (D-IA), Yea
      Kansas:Brownback (R-KS), Not VotingRoberts (R-KS), Nay
      Kentucky:Bunning (R-KY), Not VotingMcConnell (R-KY), Nay
      Louisiana:Landrieu (D-LA), YeaVitter (R-LA), Nay
      Maine:Collins (R-ME), YeaSnowe (R-ME), Yea
      Maryland:Cardin (D-MD), YeaMikulski (D-MD), Yea
      Massachusetts:Brown (R-MA), YeaKerry (D-MA), Yea
      Michigan:Levin (D-MI), YeaStabenow (D-MI), Yea
      Minnesota:Franken (D-MN), YeaKlobuchar (D-MN), Yea
      Mississippi:Cochran (R-MS), YeaWicker (R-MS), Nay
      Missouri:Bond (R-MO), Not VotingMcCaskill (D-MO), Yea
      Montana:Baucus (D-MT), YeaTester (D-MT), Yea
      Nebraska:Johanns (R-NE), YeaNelson (D-NE), Yea
      Nevada:Ensign (R-NV), NayReid (D-NV), Yea
      New Hampshire:Gregg (R-NH), YeaShaheen (D-NH), Yea
      New Jersey:Lautenberg (D-NJ), YeaMenendez (D-NJ), Yea
      New Mexico:Bingaman (D-NM), YeaUdall (D-NM), Yea
      New York:Gillibrand (D-NY), YeaSchumer (D-NY), Yea
      North Carolina:Burr (R-NC), NayHagan (D-NC), Yea
      North Dakota:Conrad (D-ND), YeaDorgan (D-ND), Yea
      Ohio:Brown (D-OH), YeaVoinovich (R-OH), Yea
      Oklahoma:Coburn (R-OK), NayInhofe (R-OK), Nay
      Oregon:Merkley (D-OR), YeaWyden (D-OR), Yea
      Pennsylvania:Casey (D-PA), YeaSpecter (D-PA), Yea
      Rhode Island:Reed (D-RI), YeaWhitehouse (D-RI), Yea
      South Carolina:DeMint (R-SC), NayGraham (R-SC), Nay
      South Dakota:Johnson (D-SD), YeaThune (R-SD), Nay
      Tennessee:Alexander (R-TN), YeaCorker (R-TN), Yea
      Texas:Cornyn (R-TX), NayHutchison (R-TX), Nay
      Utah:Bennett (R-UT), YeaHatch (R-UT), Nay
      Vermont:Leahy (D-VT), YeaSanders (I-VT), Yea
      Virginia:Warner (D-VA), YeaWebb (D-VA), Yea
      Washington:Cantwell (D-WA), YeaMurray (D-WA), Yea
      West Virginia:Manchin (D-WV), YeaRockefeller (D-WV), Yea
      Wisconsin:Feingold (D-WI), YeaKohl (D-WI), Yea
      Wyoming:Barrasso (R-WY), NayEnzi (R-WY), Nay

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