Senate Votes to Table House Debt Bill Without Even Debating on its Merits
- Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:29pm by
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Friday night the Senate voted to table House Speaker Boehner’s debt bill 59 to 41.
This does not mean that the bill has died, but has rather been put aside to be used by Majority Leader Harry Reid as the underlying vehicle from which he will draft a counter-plan. The Reid plan will then be submitted back to the House.
WASHINGTON (The Blaze/AP) — In an unforgiving display of partisanship, the House passed emergency legislation Friday night to avoid an unprecedented government default and the Senate scuttled it less than two hours later.
The final outcome – with the White House and Senate Democrats calling anew for compromise while criticizing Republicans as Tuesday’s deadline drew near – was anything but certain.
“We are almost out of time” for a compromise, warned President Barack Obama as U.S. financial markets trembled at the prospect of economic chaos next week.
The House vote was 218-210, almost entirely along party lines, on a Republican-drafted bill to provide a quick $900 billion increase in U.S. borrowing authority – essential to allow the government to continue paying all its bills – along with $917 billion in cuts from federal spending.
It was rewritten hastily overnight to say that before any additional increase in the debt limit could take place, Congress must approve a balanced budget-amendment to the Constitution and send it to the states for ratification. That marked a concession to tea party-backed conservatives and others in the rank and file who had thwarted House Speaker John Boehner’s attempt to pass the bill Thursday night.
“Today we have a chance to end this debt limit crisis,” Boehner declared, his endgame strategy upended by rebels within his own party.
But the changes he made to the House GOP bill further alienated Democrats. And they complicated prospects of a compromise that could clear both houses and win Obama‘s signature by next Tuesday’s deadline.
At the other end of the Capitol, Senate Democrats scuttled the measure without so much as a debate on its merits. The vote was 59-41, with all Democrats, two independents and six Republicans joining in opposition.
Below is a video of the follow-up press conference held by Senate Democrats Harry Reid, Dick Durbin and Chuck Schumer. Watch as Reid’s phone goes off during his remarks:
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teapartyconservatism
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:55pmHere is the easiest and best debt solution yet. Naturally it’s by Ron Paul. It’s an ingenious temporary fix.[1]
Short sighted politicians, the exception being Paul, don’t dare admit, let alone discuss solving the most heinous danger plaguing America from it’s inception, usury foreign banking! Now embodied by the Federal Reserve, this usury private banking cartel has effectively enslaved America.[2]
1. Kupelian, WND, “Why are we ignoring simple, painless debt solution?,” July 28, 2011.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=327389
2. Griffin, Jekyll Island
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7auQEXTWomA
ACgirl
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:03pmThe house passed the Ryan Budget, ignored by the Senate and the Pres. The House passed Cut, Cap, & Balance, Ignored by the Senate and the Pres. The house passed the bill today, to be tabled by the Senate and the Pres. So you know what!!! Three strikes and you’re out!!! I do not think the congress should give them anything else. Just tell the Senate and the Pres. you have 3 choices that we have submitted. You have none!!! Pick one or shut up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stop compromizing. Enough is enough!!!!! DO NOT GIVE THEM ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVES!!!!!!!!!! Tell them it is one or the other and stop the COMPROMISE with the ghost alternative that the Pres. supposedly has. WHEN IS THE CONGRESS GOING TO GET IT!!!!! Tell the Senate and the Pres. to PUT UP OR SHUT UP!!!!
Report Post »rojotx
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:11pm@ACGIRL, I concurr! Let them make a decision on what is there or suffer the consequences!
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:21pmYou’re telling me that my children and your children are going to have to slave for decades to earn $1.6 trillion to “pay back” a private banking cartel whose stockholders are the nation’s best-kept secret, and all because you’re worried about possibly causing “liquidity problems for banks for low excess reserves” or the Fed “los[ing] some flexibility in managing the money supply”?
the fed will eat your children before they let go of that debt
that’s why they ran up the debt in the 1st place
Report Post »ks1963
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:04pmAll the talk now is that Reid will change the bill. Add extending the debt limit so it passes 2013, possibly change any reductions in spending, possible tax increase. Then pass it with a democratic senate send it back to the house, where all the democrats will need to pass it is 218. There are 193 democrats, so all they will need is 25 RINO’s to pass it and we are shafted again. Not looking good.
Report Post »Pujols
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:48pmReid and Timmy are just playing with You/Us/Me Old people. Don’t let it bother you.
In 100 years we’ll all be dead, some of us sooner!
Obama, McCain, Collins, Biden, Graham, Reid, Snow, Pelosi all SUCK! + 400 more!
Report Post »That’s 407 out of 537. Not very good for us. We need more ‘New Blood.’
tommee
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 11:26pmThe purpose of a rise in the debt ceiling is to just pay the bills for the money has been already spent for the most part by most of the current members of congress! Future spending is a budget matter that has absolutely nothing to do with the mechanics of the debt ceiling.
Tying budget matters to the debt ceiling was a dangerous gimmick by the Republicans to try and force a political agenda by putting the financial integrity and credit worthiness of the United States at risk. In other words, let’s gamble with financial health of the country so we can get what we want. How patriotic is that?
My Two Cents
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 11:38pmTo add insult to injury a smarmy trio of hypocrites (Reid, Schumer & Durbin), who have failed to propose a budget for over 800 days and passed Obamacare against our will, stood behind a podium and delivered a lecture on fiscal responsibility and partisanship.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 11:39pmRand Paul on Hannity explaining the double word game used on cuts. Explains Connie Mack plan that has us debt free and balanced in 6 years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWPpmlcgnpo
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:08amNo surprise. I said they would do that before the bill was even passed. Democrats have become extremely predictable. Gimme mo’ money, yo! They don‘t care about doing what’s right, just how much they can steal from the taxpayers. Ever talk to Liberals in person? They are absolutely clueless! The ones I know have no idea who the speaker of the house is and most can’t even name the vice president or our senators. All they do is blindly press [D] and blurt out the same nonsensical catch phrases and hypocrisies. Basically, all arguments have to the same 2 endings: “If you disagree, you must be a racist,“ and ”I hate politics, don’t talk about that.” Idiots. This county voted for Obama and we have about 1.4% blacks in this district, now suddenly everyone‘s a racist because they didn’t like what they got? and “Vote Democrat because that‘s the ’in-thing’ to do.” Idiots.
I am Obama of Borg: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a61fPIgJfgs
I guess being a mindless drone is the “in-thing.”
Report Post »Thomas
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:22amThe democratic party of no.
Report Post »8jrts
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 1:09am@Shiroi Raion
Great link! Thanks for a much needed laugh after listening to the idiots on capitol hill all day! Of course it really isn’t that far from the truth if we get another 4 years!! God forbid!!!
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 1:18am:) Thanks. I put it there for that reason. It is pretty funny.
Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 2:04amYeah, Dirtbag Hairy and his band of Dimoshats really sound like they want to compromise, don’t they?
Report Post »Wayner
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 2:05amI get so sick and tired of this same ol everyday rhetoric and same ol cliches. “Put something on the table”,,,, “Where’s his plan?“ ” The American people want this“ ”the American people want that”
Report Post »VermontPatriot
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 5:06amFill D.C. With TEA
To Take Back Our Country!
Both parties have major issues. They’ve squandered weeks arguing
over very minor reductions in spending.
The fools aren’t cutting a dang thing. Shaving a few pennies off the 7-8%
baseline budget is a freakin’ joke. Spending and debt are still going to skyrocket.
D.C. is a freakin’ joke.
I am going to throw a huge party the day that the corrupt Obama Regime has been defeated and they’re all housed in their new compact homes with bars.
Fill D.C. with TEA, it’s our only hope.
Report Post »awall1231
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 6:40amThe Dims are scared to death of a balanced budget. It goes against everything they stand for. I beleive Ol Pinky’s plan, with all its gimmicks could be the final point blank shot to the head of the USA. They want nothing less than socialism with them dictating our future to us.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 7:43amShut the Federal Government down and give the power back to the states, it’s become to corrupt to save. The states can do anything they can, better and cheaper.
Report Post »StonyBurk
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 8:04amIMO the House needs to NOW follow that lead–and summarily REJECT anything sent from the Senate
Report Post »without DEBATE– DOA Perhaps then the Senate will decide to listen to the American People. The Party of the Communist Revolution led by Barry Soetoro aka Barak Hussein Obama II has been pushing for this dance– Let the dance begin! Last couple on the floor does not have to pay the piper–but the one who invited the dance will.
loriann12
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 8:09am“In an unforgiving display of partisanship…”
I thought only the Republicans showed partisanship (tongue firmly planted in cheek). The President’s idea of compromise is do it my way.
Report Post »vincere vel mori
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 8:17amI see the lies on both sides, I dont trust the speaker or wuss-man Reid. These guys are progressives and as long as they are in charge this country will suffer. Just look at the point where we are now, they put us here! Both sides did this. The Tea party is the only way to stop this monster we call Big gov. It must be stopped or else it will all come crashing down soon, we wont be able to stop it. Strictly vote Tea party, its the only way we have.
Report Post »one years food ration like glenn says
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 8:36amHarry to the rest of the boobs: Whats to debate ? It’s comes from the republican/conservative side, so we already know we won’t like ANYTHING in it, ain’t that right fellas ? We have to pass my bill to see whats in it..
Report Post »gotta light
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 8:42amHarry Reid gives ALL Mormons a bad name! LOL
What a piece of cr*p!! Someone please flush the toilet!
The only thing Harry‘s ever did successfully is use insider info he’s been privileged to as a senator to increase his own personal wealth and managed to get re-elected with the unions thuggery and help!
Hey bud gotta light?
Report Post »gotta light
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 8:44amWHERES YOUR FRICKIN BUDGET PLAN AT HARRY?
Hey bud gotta light?
Report Post »@ Coyote2
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 10:56amI often wonder if Harry is really as smart as he looks.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 10:59amWrong, tommee…
The ISSUE is our credit RATING. If our AAA rating is lowered, interest rates will go up (chinese will charge us more to borrow) which means banks will pay more to borrow which means YOU will pay more and the FARMER will pay more and the GAS STATION will pay more & the GROCERY will pay more. This mean EVERYTING will go up in price… EVERYTHING EXCEPT YOUR INCOME!!!
That credit RATING is DECLARED by Moody’s and by S&P, who have BOTH said, the ONLY way they will not lower our rating is, if we 1) CUT 4 TRILLION IN REAL SPENDING, &, 2) raise our debt ceiling. ANYTHING LESS & we WILL lose our credit rating, & begin spiraling into INFLATION.
Right now, NEITHER party is CUTTING 4 TRILLION, so I don’t know how we are gonna avoid INFLATION.
The dems want to jack up taxes which they KNOW is ridiculous during a stalled economy – that is why they won’t call it what it is, “TAXES”, they have to call it “revenues”. It is ridiculous because, only the rich have the ABILITY to create jobs, & we NEED jobs. The rich need MONEY to create jobs with. They aren’t doing it right now, because Obama keeps changing business rules, & NO-ONE will invest hard earned money unless they KNOW the rules.
So, we HAVE to CUT BIG! (4TRILLION)
We HAVE to increase the debt limit.
Otherwise, we get inflation.
Is it RIGHT that Moody’s and S&P get to dictate this? NO. But, that is how it works.
REAL answer is NEVER again spend so much this becomes an issue!
Report Post »(Balanced B
tommee
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 2:01pmHey TOMFERRARI… Nice spiel, but it’s inaccurate. Moody’s and S&P are threatening to downgrade the credit rating of the United States if it defaults on paying current outstanding bills, not because of the long term debt. Their primary concern is that investors get their promised returns. Longer term budget and debt issues are not on the hot seat. It’s like a cancer patient going to emerge with a gunshot wound. Is there any question what should be treated first?
Never before in history has the budget been tied to raising the debt limit. The United States by the way, is the only developed country in the world with a debt ceiling that must be raised on a regular basis, and it must be done. As the GDP and wealth of a nation grows, it makes no sense to put artificial caps on spending. Can you imagine a 1920‘s debt ceiling cap in today’s world of 2011? The debt limit in 1940 was $44.1 billion. Such a cap would be absurd.
Don’t get me wrong. Long term debt and budget issues are indeed a problem. But they should not be solved while a gun is pointed at the head of the financial integrity of the United States of America.
The current so called crises can be solved in a few minutes by issuing a one line bill that says the limit will be increased. After that happens, Congress can get back to the business of governing and truly solving the long term debt problem.
Report Post »Wilkins
Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:56amShiroi, you linked the funny one. At least if the truth wasn’t both scary and sad, it’d be funny.
This one, alluded to in that ‘Obama Borg’ link, is real:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTQawLBC59g&NR=1
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:55pmThey won’t raise the debt ceiling without changing the constitution? Screw them then. Do it without them and let the courts decide.
Report Post »HisNameWasRobertPaulson
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:05pmSo you can just go out and run up debt that you can‘t pay back to buy things you don’t need and your spouse doesn’t mind?
Report Post »cane247
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 11:05pmNo screw You and your greedy patron, George Soros!
Report Post »dscon
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 11:32pmyep……and here we are u economic dueffus!
Report Post »YankeeBlue
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 11:54pmYes – the perfect definition of “Progressive Democracy” – i.e., Constitutionally-unlimited federal dictatorship. The people’s representatives no longer have a say! Hooray!
http://www.thebulletproofpatriot.com
Report Post »kuhl
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 8:04amYour logic is flawed. They don’t abide by the Constitution anyway and prefer it be abolished so why should they care if it is ammended?.The Constition also states that Congress ahall provide a budget…that hasn’t phased them for 800 days.
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 1:55pmLast year the GOP was the party of NO, this year its the Demorats..
Report Post »Same Old Shi**…..never ends, wasting Tax Payer money, this is
their total existance, what would happen if did our jobs the way
these CLOWNS do theirs. and BO is their Leader….WTF !!!
This is total bullshi** !!
AKguy6
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:53pmThis farce reminds me of the closing scene of the movie “Thelma and Louise‘ only this time it’s Reid and Obama driving the country over a debt cliff. Unfortunately, we are all in the back seat. How is that 60 votes were needed in the past to table a bill and now it’s 59. Rules mean nothing to democrats
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:22pmI saw an idiot liberal on Oreilly tonight that still blames Bush.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:04pmReid complaining about the House not doing anything was a JOKE! They have sent proposals to the Senate and Harry tables them … F them. Don’t raise the debt ceiling .. let the country DEAL with it! It will be REID AND OBAMA’s fault .. yet the MSM will still try to blame the TEA Party! Let them try … we have TRUTH on our side … TRUTH WITHOUT FEAR!
TEA!
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:13am@Dealer
Have you ever seen a liberal that was NOT an idiot?
Report Post »Country
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:52pmNo more compromise. What makes the dems think more repubs will vote yes the next bill when less just voted on this pass bill? You can’t fix stuped.
Report Post »Chappy123
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:51pmWhat’s the point of all this? Nothing will pass and the 14th amendment will be invoked at the last minute. That was the plan from the start. We are headed for AA, then A, then B and F will follow.
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:35pmyup, better eat our peas
Report Post »mgj48
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:49pmThe Prez has not seen a revolt until he tries to bypass with the 14th amendment. He nor the Dems will be allowed to be dictators.
Report Post »the hawk
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 11:26pmMGJ48,
Report Post »I’m with friend ! Enough is enough !
Howyinthehills
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:30amAny kind of general revolt opens the door to marshall law and eventual dictatorship or civil war. The gurus for one world government love this kind of talk.
Report Post »neckcarjim
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:50pmHappy birthday Mr. President and I hope you enjoy you multi-million dollar birthday party on Aug. 3rd in Chicago. It‘s also nice to know that you have time for a democratic fundraiser in Chicago but you don’t have time to offer a bill to congress on raising the debt ceiling.
Report Post »buckster6.0
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:56pmharry reid.10 pounds of %$#% in a 5lb depends.
Report Post »LadyIzShy
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:50pmShame on them we WILL remember that when the elctions roll around
Report Post »CatB
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:55pmTEA!
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Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:49pmWe figured this would happen, the fact of interest to me is the 59-41 voting count; does this mean we have some of the conservative Senators who voted to table it? And if so, Why?
Report Post »the58thstate
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:59pmand who?
Report Post »ozzie
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:12pmMy bet is Kirk (IL), Brown (MA)— can’t think of others
Report Post »ozzie
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:47pmNevermind my previous guess-
It was (according to another blog) DeMint, Lee, Paul, Hatch, Graham, Vitter.
Graham is a joke.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:52pmOlympia snowe, The one who won in Alaska (can’t remember her name) and the other RINOs that have already been identified. They all need to be put to the sword.
Report Post »lonewolf57
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:46pmSenator Harry Reid will someday get his due process.The terroristic tactics that he and his Democrat/Communist Party employ now will have to be answered for.
Steny Hoyer and Nancy Pelosi will be also come under scrutiny from a new Commission.Be patient.
That pendulum swings hard.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:54pmHe had to change the rules and not require the 60 votes it should have taken … when dems can’t win by the rules they change them … but things are changing .. look how they are crying about the TEA Party .. I thought we were a joke … a flash in the pan …they certainly are screaming about the power of the TEA party now!
TEA!
Report Post »goobert
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:46pmPicture looks like something from harry potter.
Report Post »Restored One
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:40pmIt is funny that you make that comparison. I saw the movie with my daughter last week and I could not help but make that comparison throughout the movie.
Report Post »BubbaCoop
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:45pmScrew them. The House has passed TWO bills. They should just go on vacation.
Report Post »randy
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:50pmThey’re afraid to go on vacation. That would mean they would have to see their constituents.
Report Post »And they, Dems and RINOS, can’t afford to do that
NOBALONEY
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:50pmTheir vacation begins August 8th.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:56pmI would bet many will be vacationing out of the country!
TEA!
Report Post »rojotx
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:59pmThey have actually passed more, Ryan Plan, Cut Cap and Balance and this One. I am not sure but could be more.
Report Post »streetrodder
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:00pmAlot of them will be going on vacation in 2012.
Report Post »Dr. Frank Lippenheimer
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 1:02amI agree with all you guys. It this were a poker game (which it is, actually), Boehner’s best move now would be to say “I sit.”
Report Post »Stehekin912
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:45pmWhen I was young, I learned the hymn A Mighty Fortress is our God. I learned a version that seems a bit different than tradition, but here is the last part of the first verse as I learned it..
“The Old Familiar Foe / doth seek to work us woe / great guile and cruel might / are his dread arms in fight / on Earth is not his equal.”
The Old Familar Foe has its fingers on the throat of our government. Only God can help us, as we alone are not strong enough to defeat it. We must stand together, on His side, behind our never failing bulwark, for our country and for freedom.
Report Post »LovingAmerica
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:50pmThank you for sharing this wonderful hymn with us today. I have been so upset by today’s events. Your words have helped so much.
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:11pmThe only way i am keeping my sanity is by prayer and knowing it’s all in Gods hands
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:45pm“Friday night the Senate voted to table House Speaker Boehner’s debt bill.
This does not mean that the bill has died”
Report Post »_______________________________________
oh really ? it’s dead , lib loons can‘t live without spending someone else’s money .
OneFunR6
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 11:02pm“… lib loons can‘t live without spending someone else’s money”
then they’re ALL gonna die,…… one way or another.
Report Post »goobert
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:45pmHarry looks like something out of harry potter lol.
Report Post »ALL4FREEDOM
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:48pmIf he just stands still long enough, they‘ll think he’s dead and bury him.
Report Post »I.Gaspar
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:14pmReid reminds me of my dead grandmother…only a lot less masculine looking.
Report Post »Son_of_Liberty
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:44pm“If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.” Samuel Adams
3%
Report Post »niterider
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:17pmAnother Threeper
Report Post »mrmacg00
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:34pmloved $1.05′s qoute,”There is no compromise between freedom and slavery.” So what is debit?
Nothing but SLAVERY! Wake-up America! It is time for tough love and stop enabling the progressives and POTUS.
If blood spilt renews our spirit for freedom let it be taken to those whose actions are tyrannical. By standing we will let the truth shine.
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 11:04pm“If blood spilt renews our spirit for freedom let it be taken to those whose actions are tyrannical. By standing we will let the truth shine.”
mrmacgoo, I stand with you.
Report Post »nannyatnannydotgov
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:44pmThese lifetime club members are out of control!
Report Post »chips1
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:56pmHarry is in trouble. Nancy’s legs are starting to close.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:42pmSHAME ON YOU!!!
MAY OUR GOD ALMIGHTY require of you this very day what souls you have left .
You are NOT AMERICANS. You have betrayed AMERICA and the hope of REAL, COURAGEOUS AMERICANS.
I for one want to see a list of those in the senate who voted to table this bill. you will not be hired by this AMERICAN to sweep our streets.
Report Post »Big N
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:42pmTHIS is where the House Republicans make their STAND! We all know that this is going to be a mega ceiling raise and more taxes… They MUST be strong and act of one voice…
Report Post »KusoJiJi
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:42pmi hope boehner has something up his sleeve. we all saw this coming. if boehner doesn’t have a strong response he might as well resign.
Report Post »barrycooper
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:41pmThe Democrats are playing with fire. They lost badly in 2010 for a reason, and it doesn’t matter if those reasons are not playing on the formerly relevant media. You can’t fool all the people forever, and you can’t fool most of them for long, not to this extent. Obama is not even remotely a Fabian: he is a straight out Socialist. Hillary would not be having these problems: we should all be glad the hard left chose to shoot itself in the foot with this candidate.
We’ll have the Senate and White House soon enough. We need to pass some stupid bill now, because Obama is reckless enough to veto anything that isn’t stupid. 2013 we clean house, and start the real work.
Report Post »kuhl
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 8:07amDefine “isn’t stupid” please. Obama prefers to have this gridlock so he can once again subvert the Constitution and tell Geitner to raise the debt ceiling himself. I truly believe in his deluded way of thinking he thinks he will look like a hero if he does it.
Report Post »barrycooper
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 9:37amAs I understand the matter, we are set to increase our national indebtedness–barring some large economic catastrophe, which will make matters worse–some 7-10 trillion dollars over the next decade, or roughly 1 trillion per year. Logically, this means we need to be discussing trillion dollar per year spending cuts, and/or corresponding tax increases. Tax increases do work up to a point, and should not be taken finally off the table, but the simple reality is that Obama has increased spending grotesquely, and is now asking taxpayers to foot a bill which has not benefited most of them in the slightest. That is unfair, and stupid.
None of the proposals on the table come with a mile of approaching the level needed for fiscal sanity. None of them. Not even Ryan’s, which balances the ANNUAL budget, in my understanding, in 25 years, and therefore does nothing to pay down our actual debt until the year after that. And even his plan draws the ire of Democrats. Even that.
No matter what passes it will therefore be stupid. Our nation–led in its opinions by idiots, hacks, and cynics–largely has not begun to grasp the full depth of the lunacy that has been gripping this nation for the better part of a century.
What Boehner is doing is a good beginning. He has lit the fire, and people are, I hope, actually studying our situation, and to the extent accurate information is made available to them, drawing reasonable–I would argue necessary–conclusions.
Report Post »Docrow
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:39pmjackwagons
Report Post »kindling
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:38pmCut, Cap, and Balance! Cut, Cap, and Balance! Cut, Cap, and Balance! Cut, Cap, and Balance! Cut, Cap, and Balance! Cut, Cap, and Balance! Cut, Cap, and Balance! Cut, Cap, and Balance! Cut, Cap, and Balance! Cut, Cap, and Balance! Cut, Cap, and Balance! Cut, Cap, and Balance! Cut, Cap, and Balance! Cut, Cap, and Balance! Cut, Cap, and Balance! SETTLE FOR NO LESS!!!!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:57pmTEA!
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Report Post »yetibunker
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:12pmyou forgot one thing…freeze!
Report Post »SHOESHINEBOY
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:36pmhe will draft a counter-proposal to be submitted back to the House.
let me say it in honest words…
He will draft a tax increase that has tax increases, and with the tax increases, will increase spending, by tax increases, that the DNC will cheer, for, since there is a tax increase, and they will keep spending……..nothing changes….where is your “compromise” you so loudly proclained in 2007 when you took control…
Report Post »bstand
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:34pmYou idiots got suckered again by the libs. Now they will propose some stupid bill (with taxes) and return it to the house and the rino’s will join with the libs and pass a bill that will be bad for our nation. I can’t believe you guys are that dumb!!!!!!!!
Report Post »dscon
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:44pmno, …….. we got f’d and i think most of us saw it comming.
but the sock full of s**t upside the face once again is a tad old!
Report Post »bstand
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:47pmI wish I lived in Ohio so i could vote Boehner’s butt out of office
Report Post »west1890
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:32pmBend over……….here we go again.
Report Post »ErinLindsey
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:45pmthey’re going to force some more crap thru, and they’re not going to use anything to ease the way. Not only are we bent over, I think they’ve tied us down too.
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