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Separation of Church & State? NC University Publishes List of ‘Gay Friendly’ Churches

North Carolina Professor Mike Adams Against Gay Church List

Professor Mike Adams

The University of North Carolina‘s Wilmington campus is catching the wrath of at least one professor after the school’s LGBT office began circulating a list of recommended “gay friendly” churches for students and faculty, alike.

These houses of worship were assembled as part of a larger guide that provides students with information on gay-friendly businesses, non-profits, health care providers and the like. While faculty and students in search of this information will surely be glad to find it compiled in one place, some see the manual’s creation as an inappropriate breach of church and state.

Mike Adams, a criminology professor at the college, doesn’t think the university should be disseminating church recommendations to students. This factoid is particularly interesting because Adams is an atheist-turned-Christian and the college in question is a public institution.

North Carolina Professor Mike Adams Against Gay Church ListAdams’ argument is one that can typically be heard by those opposing the intermingling of faith and government (many times these individuals happen to be atheists). In an interview with FoxNews.com, Adams said, “It’s just amazing. It appears to me to be the height of not just silliness, but government waste.” In a column for TownHall.com on Monday, he wrote:

…our LGBTQIA Office…investigate[s] and then endorse churches based on their stance on homosexuality. And they print lists of approved gay-friendly churches using official university letter-head. Then they circulate their approved church list on state-owned computers to other state employees who then recommend the approved churches to their students.

This isn’t the first time a guide like this has arisen. A few years ago, Georgia Institute of Technology created something similar (a document that described how various religions and Christian denominations viewed homosexuality). In 2008, a federal judge ruled that the religious references needed to be stripped out, as the guide was seen as favoring some faith systems over others. To drive his point home, Adams says:

“If I were to stand up and start recommending churches in the classroom, that would be a serious problem.”

Below, watch a video that provides more information on the campus office that distributed the manual:

Certainly, Adams’ opinion will be shared by many others. But, it should be noted that there may be valid reasons for the campus office’s inclusion of local churches. After all, regardless of whether the school is public or private, there are individuals within its walls who attend churches and, thus, would find this information beneficial. One wonders, though: Are other church lists available to students as well?

Some, like Adams, will charge that the wall of separation requires that campus offices don’t make any religious recommendations. It’s a sticky situation, especially considering the fact that this is a campus group representing a minority sect — something that likely adds extra layers of angst on both sides of the debate.

Comments (142)

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  • Socialism_Is_The_New_Black
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:16pm

    Oxymoron much?

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:48pm

      Brilliant in its simplicity …
      A. Back off and let those men who want to marry men, marry men.
      B. Allow those women who want to marry women, marry women.
      C. Allow those folks who want to abort their babies, abort their babies.
      D. In three generations, there will be no Democrats.

      D@mn – I love it when a plan comes together

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    • Gold Coin & Economic News
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:53pm

      Go to your gay friendly churches that completely misinterpret the Word of God and suffer the eternal consequences. Did you gays just decide you would worship a god of your own making?

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    • GABOB
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 7:18pm

      @Barjonmon

      You obviously do not understand gay adoption in this country. Adopt the kids, teach them tolerance or
      being a heterophobe is normal, or worse, molest them.

      Save america, stop heterophobia.

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    • A.Non
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 7:56pm

      If I remember correctly this is still a free country, yes, everyone has a right to choose. Of course the other thought is “give them enought rope to hang themselves”, kinda goes along with your….then there will be no more Democrats

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    • Rampart
      Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:59am

      So are these the same folks I see near every mornin‘ down at the Circle Mart tryin’ to pump gas into theyz doorlocks…? Color me wonderin’…

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    • ImJusSayin
      Posted on August 17, 2011 at 7:31am

      Now theres a PLAN!

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    • Watchingtheweasels
      Posted on August 17, 2011 at 8:15am

      Actually I would be glad to see this as a Christian new to the area. It would give me a convenient list of churches to avoid.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on August 17, 2011 at 12:09pm

      All churches should be tolerant of gay people as the sole purpose of churches is to save sinners. That being said no church that embrace the gay lifestyle as acceptable can truely be a house of God.
      But no church should ever turn away the sinner it‘s the sin that’s the issue. That being said I have some freinds who are gay and just as nice,respectful,and honest as you’ll ever find on this earth.
      So I understand society willingness to accept the gay lifestyle. However,Church is not about society it’s about religious beliefs. And something being socially acceptable hardly constitutes religiously acceptable.

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    • en2deep
      Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:19pm

      I don’t blame liberal women for being gay, there’s not much difference between liberal men and women.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:22pm

      These are not churches, they are social clubs for the evil

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on August 18, 2011 at 12:46am

      GOLD COIN & ECONOMIC NEWS
      Isn’t that what all you Jesus freaks did?

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  • Cherynn
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:13pm

    The hypocrites in the pews chased me away from church 30 years ago. God welcomes ALL people,,,,,,to bad his followers dont.

    Cherynn  
    • Spango
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:59pm

      Mastering Life Ministries is an interdenominational, non-profit Christian ministry. It exists in order to target areas of life where people are caught and deceived into unhealthy, dysfunctional life-styles that separate them from the power and blessing of God, and to equip the Church to redemptively minister to such people.
      Our primary focus is sexual sin and brokenness, and related issues such as intimacy with the Father, performance orientation, anger management, etc. The tools of our ministry include film, television, and radio as well as seminars and publications that communicate the truth of Jesus Christ.

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    • Cherynn
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 6:25pm

      Thanks Spango. I am transgendered and I know which churches I am not allowed in. I do have a religeon and a God though, its just not yours.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 8:04pm

      Yes..God does welcome all people. Burt in a true church of God, the truth is spoken from the Bible. Homosexuality is an abomination to God meaning He hates it. That along with the sins of fornication, adultery, theivery, and idolatry will keep one from entering the kingdom of God. So if one is not willing to hear that message, then they probably wouldn’t want to sit in those pews. I would personally find it disgusting to allow any child to witness a homosexual couple displaying affection for one another and especially in a church which would be saying to that child that it is acceptable. It is not. Not unless I desired to possibly destroy that child. and possibly be responsilbe for sending it to hell for eternity. I am sorrry that these “Gay” friendly churches won’t be teaching the truth to gays. “They did not give Him the glory nor the thanks, and so he gave them over to perverse ways. Men,lying with men and women lying with women.

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    • Cherynn
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 8:34pm

      My God loves all people, my God accepts all people, my God cares for all people. My God does not teach bigotry, hatered and intollerence to children. My God believes live and let live, respect one another. My God says he is my only judge, other humans are not smart enough or qualified to be my judge. My God says to treat the least of His creation as we would treat Him. My God says if I do that, He will always be there for me. Your God likes to damn and punish people. My God likes to love people. I want to spend eternity with my God, not your God.

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    • Misty Williams
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 8:51pm

      @Cherynn
      God, not mine or yours, but GOD, does love and want all people to be his children. No doubt about it. He does absolutely have the prerogative to judge you, as you have stated yourself. I cannot judge you and don’t want the job–I don’t have the guts to do it right. GOD absolutely does have the prerogative to set limits on our behaviors. We should be interested ONLY in the limits GOD sets, not those set by other imperfect persons. Do you believe that the Bible is God’s word? Do you believe that the Holy Spirit inspired the writing of the Bible? Do you believe that GOD is bigger and more capable than any one author, canonization council or group of creed writers? Is GOD able to make sure that his inspired word is complete and uncorrupted? Study the Word, not what any minister tells you; you simply can’t know what agenda the minister or his/her hierarchy might have. I hope you can find the Truth in the scriptures, read plainly, and obeyed simply. GOD bless.

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    • glassaudioguy
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 9:06pm

      Problem is, Cherynn, your god doesn’t exist. It’s a grossly watered down version of Christianity. My God also loves and accepts everyone, but He loves them too much to let them stay that way. Even though Jesus didn’t condemn the woman caught in adultery, He did finish the conversation by saying “Go and sin no more.” Sorry to hear of your sex change operation. Transgenders strike me as being ungrateful to God for the sex they were born with.

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 11:17pm

      LOL – I can almost hear the emphasis on the word “my” in each sentence.

      Undoubtedly, you can KNOW that your God is not my God. You have a complete lock on Godliness, dontcha?

      I hope God is in everyone and everything, regardless of how little I like someone or something.

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    • Cherynn
      Posted on August 17, 2011 at 12:18am

      Thank you all for your concern. My God exsists just as much as your god exsist. Prove to me my God doesnt exsist. Most of my friends consider me a Buddhist. Regaurdless of what I am, I am comfotrable with my beliefs. I do live within all of the restrictions of my religeon, I respect my fellow human being. I have the right to have my beliefs as put forth in the 1st amendment. My beliefs are no more important than your beliefs and of no less importance either. I am the one responsable for my soul, no one else on this planet is.

      @glassaudioguy, I dont need your pity or approval. Sorry my exsistance offends you. Good thing we are not nieghbors I guess. I am very secure and know who I really am, do you know who you are? I just want to be productive and live and let live, nothing special. I am an American citzen and also veteran. I think I have the right to exsist. Why cant you live and let live?

      What amazes me is that I am supposed to live my life in accordance with your religeon, not mine. Why dont I get to choose my own personal beliefs? Sounds like the American taliban, forcing your beliefs onto me. Why is this no different the islam spreading sharia? Sounds the same to me. Niether one will let you live your life according to your own beliefs, they force thiers on you. How is it that I Should consider this living in a free country? Real simple rule people, RESPECT EACH OTHER. If you JUST do that I know you will be obeying all the laws in your dusty old book.

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    • scarebear83
      Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:36am

      The God of the Bible, the one true God isn’t sitting around waiting to condemn everyone. In fact He wants all men to be saved 2 Pet. 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. I understand it may be easier to say and to make up one’s own god than to accept what the word of God says. Yes Jesus taught love but it’s that love for your fellow man that you want to warn them of certain dangers. I wouldn’t want you to fall off a cliff you may not know is there so out of love, because I don’t want to see harm come your way, I will try to warn you of that danger in hopes you don’t fall. It’s the same with warning people of sin. We are taught to “have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.” (Eph. 5:11) Even Jesus at times exposed sin but it in no way signified He hated anyone but out of love showing others the error of their hearts. God is not willing that any should perish and He doesn’t sit around waiting to condemn people, He wants to save them. He also doesn’t send people to eternal torment, they make it their on their own. If you get caught for stealing and are sentenced is it the judges’ fault or yours for doing such? I just hope you will reconsider learning about the one true God of the Bible, Cherynn.

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    • StonyBurk
      Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:36am

      Cherynn– God welcomes ALL people-seems a misstatement. I can find NO place in Scripture where God -or His Son Jesus that Rabbi from Nazareth EVER condoned Sin. I can’t find a single verse in
      Scripture where Jesus embraced fornication, or adultery. Or suggested we should tolerate wickedness.
      I love my son I will NEVER accept the homosexual lifestyle. I love my daughter I will NEVER accept the
      druggie lifestyle that she chooses that is destroying her children.YEs we have free will– I choose to love God.

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    • furnatic
      Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:56am

      @CHERYNN
      Keep fightin’ the power!
      To all else who oppose here about worshipping the “Wrong God”,
      Since when was a book, the Bible, written or at least translated by man never bias? I could translate any book to say homosexuals are evils. Yeah, I’m a devout Christian, but unlike most of you, the thing to take from the book is to Do More For Others than You Do For You! You twist it and construe it as a book only there to save YOUR soul. Sure you follow the commandments and such, but are you really trying to be like Jesus? Last I checked, Jesus helped others, not sit there and tell them they going to hell. I’m pretty sure if Jesus were here, he wouldn’t care if Cherynn was transgendered. The only thing god has EVER asked is let God into your heart. So don’t even try to use the Bible as a weapon to degrade someone because of there life choices(FYI, this in itself is a sin). In the end, it really doesn’t matter if someone is gay, straight, a hermaphadite, transgendered and what-not. So long as you let Jesus and the Lord into your heart, you are saved. End of Story.

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    • ImJusSayin
      Posted on August 17, 2011 at 7:34am

      Your God’s elevator has one direction, straight down! I hope you reconsider your religious beliefs.

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  • politicojim
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:11pm

    c’mon fellow homosexuals…. we don’t need no stinking church to keep us in line, we have the entire muslim population trying to kill us!!!

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    • avenger
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:18pm

      there is nothing gay about being a homosexual.the population has been stupified.

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 6:13pm

      avenger,
      I always say if homosexuals are so gay, why are they always b*tching about something?

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  • teddrunk
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:10pm

    A Gay Friendly Church? Well, I suppose, but considering Our Lords stance of gay I’d say those “churches” have someone else as their leader. Someone from a hotter place.

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    • encinom
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:33pm

      Given that every day God creates more gay people, I think its the bigots that may have their signals crossed.

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    • Drives Like Jehu
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:49pm

      Maybe they should publish a list of God hater friendly, God curser friendly, idolater friendly, anti-Sabbath friendly, parent dishonoring friendly, killer friendly,adulterer friendly, burglar friendly, liar friendly and covetous friendly churches too.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:59pm

      @ encinom

      Bigot: a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.

      Your constant & consistent derogatory comments and name-calling regarding religious beliefs, the Tea Party, anyone who likes Glenn Beck or anyone who does not think like you etc etc etc show your intolerance and are, by definition bigoted.

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    • Right_on_the_Left_Coast
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 6:09pm

      @ENCINOM,

      God doesn’t make gay people. He makes people. Unfortunately the current batch He has to build from is hopelessly screwed up with sin, and so His creations keep turning out worse and worse. It won‘t be long now before mankind has drifted so far from God’s original design that he finally decides enough is enough and brings this twisted story to an end.

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    • Enciloon
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 6:19pm

      I have to think that way as it makes ms a bit Ill if I believe i chose my lifestyle. You guys can surely see how confused I am between my hate filled slurs in most posts and then callin others bigots in the rest. Really I am just hiding behind my computer trying to get principled people riled up but the jokes a bit on me as I’m wasting away some of my free time unemployment for decades has left me with

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    • RedPillPatriot
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 6:23pm

      Actually Encitroll – I believe the food supply, extreme amounts of estrogen laden soy in the food, is resulting in more and more gays like you.

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    • teddrunk
      Posted on August 17, 2011 at 5:53am

      I understand gays, or we could be talking about baby eliminating Democrats, believe they can attend a Christian Church that supports their political beliefs & lifestyle choices. But we both know that those aren’t really Christian Churches, as they pick and choose what to follow in the Bible.

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  • This_Individual
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:06pm

    Giving a list of places for folks to gather and be at peace. How dare they!!!!?

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    • HorseCrazy
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 9:59pm

      would they EVER post a list of churches for anyone else or for that matter allow a large Christian group of college kids to hand out anti abortion pamphlets or Jesus tracts? or is it the Gay “equal rights” crap again. Somehow our country equates “equal rights” with selective treatment of a minority while trampling the freedoms from the rest of us. That being said I think more of the LBG whatever community to start attending church and be welcomed.

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:30am

      If anything of the sort is done with public funding, I am against it.

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  • Eric Von Zipper
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:01pm

    My friends… Don’t they mean “Genetically Challenged Homosexual Friendly” Churches?…

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  • MERRYRIVER
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:00pm

    Homosexual advocates refuse to self-regulate: their idea of being “gay friendly” is in NOT opposing their homosexual-activist agenda (full array of demands they make). Same goes for those organizations aside from the churches: if you’re not laying down and “letting them” publicize and advocate their demands, you’re called “a hater” or said to “hate gays”, neither of which is true, realistic, constructive or even psychologically reliable.

    Homosexual activists want “gay friendly” environments not to respect those environments but to replace those environments with homosexual activism in all it’s dimensions and demands. Christianity is not a morally equivalency theology and sin is sin and homosexual behavior among others is sin. Homosexual activists want Christianity to change it’s very theology to give more room for behavior without evaluation (and penalty after observation) for behaviors that clearly violate the Body of Christ.

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  • Ron_WA
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:55pm

    WTF? Really?

    Are we sure this was published by the state funded University & not a private group which is allowed to operate on the campus?

    If this is a state funded office formally associated w/ the university then STOP IT NOW.

    If it’s a privately funded office allowed to operate on the campus STOP using university letterhead & put it on LGBT rainbow parer or something.

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  • HippoNips
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:54pm

    There is no such thing as an actual Christian church that is ACCEPTING of the notion that people should put their odd sexual desires ahead of everything or anything.

    Chrisitanity is friendly to all , each and ever person , that want to put LOVE before all other, and end the animalistic drive to put themselves and their desires in the fore frong.

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  • staxmarshall
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:50pm

    Ever notice how churches or denominations that throw out bible doctrine are long since dead or withering and in the process of dying? Churches (even those that remain mall in membership) that affirm God’s Word thrive.

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  • Exrepublisheep
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:50pm

    Serving some portion of the student body. The nerve! It’s a good thing no college offices talk about Catholic churches in a positive manner.

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    • Shotgun167
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:31pm

      “Serving some portion of the student body. ”

      Hmm? Well, did they make up a list of blacks only churches? How about whites only churches? How about a list of Fundamentalist Baptist?

      Why is there even an office for gay people? I don’t care where you put your wanker, and I don‘t want to hear about how other people don’t like you, ’cause you decide that you want to tell them about the strange things you do with your wanker. I’m not afraid of gay people. I don’t hate gay people. I simply don‘t CARE about gay people in the same way that I don’t CARE about the guy that wants to wear women’s underwear. Do what makes you happy, dude, but when you start flaunting it in my face…forcing it to be my business…you disgust me, and that is the only emotion I have toward you. So, why is money taken from me by force, and given to people that choose to piss off everyone around them?

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  • Locked
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:46pm

    Oh, and if anyone was curious about the denominations of the 5 “approved churches”:
    Universalist (St. Jude’s)
    Universalist (Unitarian Universalist Fellowship)
    Episcopal (Church of the Servant)
    Lutheran (Lutheran Church of Reconciliation)
    Presbyterian (First Presbyterian Church)

    I read the guy’s column; he’s pretty blatant in his anti-gay rhetoric, ending with “we might have to add B.S. to alphabet soup of homosexual victimhood.”

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    • Baron_Doom
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:51pm

      Homosexual victimhood is a bunch of Barbra Streisand.

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    • Marci
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:52pm

      The issue has little to do with gay/anti-gay Locked. The issue for me is if they were disseminating this for ANY other group, out come the protestors. This simply locks in the FACT that Christianity is only opposed when it politically benefits someone. Here, it’s for LGBT, so eh, whatever….sure this guy is opposing it, but I am willing to bet none of the other people who usually oppose it WILL. So it proves the stance is pure b.s.

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    • Locked
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:00pm

      @Marci
      “The issue has little to do with gay/anti-gay Locked. The issue for me is if they were disseminating this for ANY other group, out come the protestors.”

      Well, I mean the guy who complained about it is pretty blatantly anti-gay (not a surprise; I guess I just mean he does’t pull his punches nor insults). And there is pleeeeenty of protests when something religious is called out under the separation clause. Heck, weekly (if not daily) we have articles here on The Blaze about it, and about how it gets people up in arms.

      I still don’t think the office should have done it, and as the article states, similar efforts from another university were ruled against by a judge, so there’s precedent that the university overstepped its boundaries. I’d agree with that, and echo my comment I made before: if it was so important to students, then it should have been the students themselves who made this guide, not the university.

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    • ChristianLayman
      Posted on August 29, 2011 at 8:50pm

      Aren’t all of those ecclesial communities hardcore liberal? Good grief, what a bunch of nonsense. I’m sorry, but it is only a pity that Pope Pius X cut short of adding liberalism to the list of heresies.

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  • biohazard23
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:41pm

    Sooooooooooo, where does the ACLU stand on this? Or do we really need to ask?

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  • Locked
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:40pm

    The office shouldn’t have done it; if it was so important, a student group should have instead.

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    • encinom
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:45pm

      Incoming freshman need to know where the small minded bigots are, and which churches have decided to follow the golden rule instead of cast judgment against all that they see.

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    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:46pm

      I agree. Since when is a college or university “the state”? Either way having the nstudents do it on their own would have prevented this hassle.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:54pm

      @ encinom

      Calling anyone a “small minded bigot” is casting judgement. Apparently you believe the golden rule does not apply to you.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:55pm

      encinom
      You’re calling God a “small minded bigot”. It’s his world, his rules, we’re just trying to follow them.
      Good luck with that…you’ll need it.

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    • Enciloon
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:56pm

      Why are people so against my lifestyle. Although I am not a bigot I find any chance to use vulgar references towards tea party members and got quite amused by the sight of Rick perry eating a hot fog. Some of you may find me to be a hypocrite but really I am just frustrated that staying out of work hasn’t fully paid off yet

       
  • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:39pm

    Why do they need to know if a church is gay-friendly? Do they go to church just to look for a date? Do they dress in leather chaps for church or something? One goes to church for one reason, to worship God. If you feel the need to make it known to everyone that you are gay, please stay at home or go to a bar, don’t come to church. I don‘t need to know it and I don’t feel the need to tell everyone what I do in the privacy of my home.

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    • Locked
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:48pm

      “Why do they need to know if a church is gay-friendly?”

      Turn the question around: if you believe homosexuality is a sin, would you want to attend a church where it is espoused as normal or moral?

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    • encinom
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:49pm

      Wait, here is a radical idea, maybe gays feel more comfortable in a church not driven by small minded bigotry pretending to be Christanity.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:05pm

      Or maybe gays should stop pretending they are special.

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    • MERRYRIVER
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:10pm

      @ ENCINOM – why do you even try to discuss Christians and Christianity since you appear to so dislike the theology? Do you hate Christ? Sure seems that you do from reading only two of your skewered, negative posts here.

      Homosexuality is sin. It’s in the Bible, Old and New Testaments, several times, several areas. And not minor sin or some sort of inconvenient hassle to God, in God’s eyes. God reserves a very stern judgement about homosexual behavior and states as much in the Bible several times. It seems, ENCINOM, your primary hatred is of God, and therefore branches out to Christians.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:21pm

      @ encinom

      “… a church not driven by small minded bigotry pretending to be Christianity.”

      There you go again ….. remember that Golden Rule you like to wave around? Treat others as you wish to be treated. And let’s not forget your continuous “Tbagger” “beckerheads” remarks. Purposefully using derogatory and insulting names once again shows you don’t practice what you preach.

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  • Midwest Blonde
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:36pm

    The separation between Church & State is often misused and misquoted

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    It quite literally means that Congress shall not establish a [state] religion, nor prohibit the free exercise of religion. This does not say a religious article can not be displayed on State property (such as a Nativity at Christmas), because the “state” is not establishing a religion by allowing it’s display. This includes ANY religious article, Christian, Jewish or otherwise.

    In a letter in response to a religious group, Thomas Jefferson wrote this: (and THIS is where the concept of “separation between Church & State” originated)

    “Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.”

    http://www.usconstitution.net/jeffwall.html

    http://candst.tripod.com/tnppag

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    • Midwest Blonde
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:46pm

      Basically what I was saying above is that a state university can indeed provide information to students about the local community. It only shows their liberal bias when they list specific gay/lesbian accepting churches.

      I’m wondering if they list other churches and community programs as well, that straight students may have an interest in?

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    • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:50pm

      I’m sure if a Christian Identity church wanted to be listed, it would be a good idea to include a footnote for it, in the exact same way as the gay-friendly churches are listed, to indicate that no members of the university community who are people of color should attempt to attend.

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  • ZAP
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:31pm

    The abomination church

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  • Carol Ingian
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:29pm

    If I lived in that area I’d say thanks for the heads up on what “friendly” churches to avoid.

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    • GIDEON612
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:37pm

      They are going to be mostly DNC centers and other left organizations locales.
      Sorry, a spade is a spade.
      There is no true follower of Christ that is gay. They are just hang-outs that are under a tax exempt banner.
      No need to reply against me on this.

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    • vennoye
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:40pm

      Just what I was thinking!!!

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  • semihardrock
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:28pm

    IT IS ONLY against the law when Christians do it. ALL PROGRESSIVES are allowed to break/twist/manipulate the law WHEN the end justifies the means!

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  • Uechi
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:28pm

    Good that will ensure I don’t accidently wind up in one of these politically correct pseudo churches. Gay neutral fine gay friendly a disgrace.

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  • amendment1
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:28pm

    There is no such thing as “separation between church and state”. That phrase does not appear any where in the constitution. Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. That’s it. Not difficult to understand that phrase. It requires no interpretation. Sounds to my like you can express your religious beliefs any where at any time.

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    • Locked
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:53pm

      “There is no such thing as “separation between church and state”.”

      Yes there is. The Supreme Court has ruled that such a principle is espoused under the establishment clause. You‘re correct in saying it’s not in the Constitution, but the Supreme Court has ruled that the first amendment includes Thomas Jefferson’s words since the 1879 case Reynolds v. United States.

      Judicially speaking, there is a separation of church and state and it has explicitly existed for over 130 years.

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    • selloursouls
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:24pm

      @ Locked, This may be a shock but just because the Supreme Court says something doesn’t mean it is true. The Supreme Court also said slavery and segregation were constitutional, but they changed their minds. The Supreme Court is only nine people who also have biases. Strangely enough what the Supreme Court says is not final. They are fallible and imperfect. They can rule all day long, but it doesn’t mean they are right.

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    • amendment1
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:56pm

      Yes, the supreme courts job is to interpret the constitution, the problem is they interpret it incorrectly. The first amendment is so simple it can’t be twisted any other way. They made a mistake and over thought and over complicated the whole thing.

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    • Locked
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 6:01pm

      “This may be a shock but just because the Supreme Court says something doesn’t mean it is true.”

      Nor would I say it does. What is -does- mean is that judicially the constitution has been interpreted by the ultimate judicial body to mean a certain thing. A separation of church and state is well-founded judicial fact, and has been for over a century. Can it be overturned? Sure – but it hasn’t for 130 years, and in fact has been the basis for multiple rulings since the original.

      Saying there’s no such thing as a separation of church and state is judicially incorrect; although Amendment1 was right in saying it is not explicit in the Constitution. That was the point I was trying to make, not whether or not it was “true” or “right” in a metaphysical sense.

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  • Alvin691
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:24pm

    The next step is persecution of those churces that aren’t “gay friendly”.

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    • politicaljules
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:58pm

      I went to a “gay friendly” church for over 10 years. It was the most wonderful atmosphere and more church like than any church I have ever been. I played in an orchestra, and we had over 3000 members of people of all faiths coming together and loving each other. We supported each other, and did not ask if you were worthy or not. None of us were worthy, BUT THATS WHY WE DID IT.

      You know first we are going to scream that people who happen to be Gay are not Christians. Now we are going to scream that someone who happens to be Gay is welcome in a church. And condemn every member of that church with our judgement.

      Umm, not trying to be blasphemous here, but God IS watching.

      Im just saying.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on August 17, 2011 at 9:43pm

      While we all are sinners, those of us who are Christians admit that we are and we repent our sins. We don‘t keep admitting that we’re proud of our sins.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:21pm

    Here we have a clear cut case of a university who is failing in the seperation of church and state. Period. If they are operating only upon all funding of the private sector and tuition, then that would be one thing, yet any bit of government funding sends a dangerous precident across the board.

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    • Just in time
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:26pm

      Your understanding of the Intent of the Constitution is convoluted.

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  • Just in time
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:21pm

    The intent of the constitution, I believe is to say that Congress cannot dictate to the American people, What religion they must adhere to. So in my opinion, this list of churchs is fine. I am not pro or con the issues they are representing. I say live and let live.

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    • The Third Archon
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 9:43pm

      I agree. I think to believe that the separation of church and state is such a rigged principle, that it applies to even semi-autonomous non-State entities that just happen to receive public funding is ridiculous. Many public universities pay for more of their costs with revenue raised from students than they do from help from the government. And whatever happened to academic freedom? A professor with tenure can talk about whatever he or she wants, and can endorse religions if they want, or disavow them all–students, at least by the time they hit college age, are adults and should be expected to think for themselves. If they can’t, then when CAN we expect them to? What hope do we have of expecting them to be informed and constructive citizens if we can’t even give them the room to make their own ideological conclusions and if we feel the need to censor their world for them–they’re not children.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:15pm

    I know three persons (in one) who won’t be at the gay friendly church…Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:34pm

      That’s the three I was thinking about…prophecy sure is being fulfilled as far as false doctrine…no where that I have read in scripture does God accept this sin, just the opposite…I believe this is said to be the only sin that makes the “earth vomit”

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:39pm

      It’s amazing how arrogant man is, trying to bend God’s will to suit his own sexual desires.

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    • NWalters78
      Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:47pm

      Dang right, Gonzo. Dang right. Now, while The Father, Son and Holy Spirit will be with us in Heaven, for all Eternity; there will be plenty of “well-meaning“ and ”compromise-minded” types who WILL NOT be in Heaven. I don’t wanna judge, I’ll leave that to God. However, there’s plenty watering down the Gospel and God for some false consensus…..

      Revelations 3:14-15 “I’d rather you had been hot or cold for purpose, but instead you were lukewarm. And for being lukewarm, I spit you out of my mouth….” Spit = vomitted up, caused stomach to turn, revulsion, and automatic purging……

      Don’t be lukewarm folks, it’ll cost you more than just some snide remarks on this side.

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