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‘Seriously?’ Maddow Praises Fox News While Bashing Hannity, Beck

Rachel Maddow must have missed Glenn Beck’s response (see here) to accusations he’s spreading wild conspiracy theories, because on Thursday night she tried, once again, to paint Beck as a madman for showing the similarities between the extreme left and extreme Islam. Instead of actually taking the time trace Beck’s argument, she instead went with a straw-man argument, and also threw in a creepy flashlight while taking potshots at Sean Hannity:

More on the straw-man fallacy:

“Straw man” is one of the best-named fallacies, because it is memorable and vividly illustrates the nature of the fallacy. Imagine a fight in which one of the combatants sets up a man of straw, attacks it, then proclaims victory. All the while, the real opponent stands by untouched.

If the show fits…

(H/T: Mediaite)

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  • emertz8413
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:02am

    My husband thought I needed to “listen to the other side”. So, I DVR’d Glenn (which I always do anyway), then turned the channel to Chrissy Matthews and ended up yelling at the TV. He had 2 “experts” on and everyone was taking their turn bashing Glenn on this Caliphate thing. Glenn was taken out of context and they never tried to attack the substance of Glenn’s message only saying Glenn was a nut-case. Never explained what a Caliphate was, (my husband asked me) only how stupid Glenn was for even mentioning it. Even my husband was appalled… now he will never mention the “other” side again!!!

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    • jedi.kep
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:41am

      And THAT is the problem with the other side. No facts brought to the debate table. They only thing they can bring are insults and fourth grade playground policies. Those are the very reasons Beck is so popular. He brings facts and demands people do their own homework. In a way, Glenn is forcing the discussion in America and I love him for it. Maybe Glenn is purposely going as far as he can to force the discussion to occur? If he is, it’s absolutely brilliant. Either way, the difference is facts verses insults. And we all know which will always win.

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  • mindy
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:02am

    why does she spend so much of her own air time talking about other shows? Maybe she is a secret conspiracy to advertise for Fox.

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  • rljenx
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:01am

    Interesting the Rachel and MSNBC need to use FOX programming to find their stories. Seriously? Do some journalism on your own.

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  • jedi.kep
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:59am

    Hey Rachel! How about some FACTS and tearing apart of the FACTS if you are going to debate the issue? Tearing apart Beck simply proves you have nothing. Anyone can tear apart Beck.

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    • throwbacktx
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:25pm

      Why don‘t u prove it and call in to Beck’s radio show??????

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  • Citizen
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:57am

    no they arent muslim brother hood – they are being duped by organizations that are funded and created by muslim brotherhood .

    I love how shes trying so hard to make it sound like beck is saying – obama is muslim brotherhood

    Thing is much of the democrats base is so ignorant of the english language that they cant follow the actual words and just take madows word for it.

    If you look at what the left is trying to do is they are trying to rally up the ignorant and poor who dont know any better and use them as a weapon.

    the actual educated people see the lack of a solid foundation for an argument. maddow did not do any reporting on who muslim brotherhood actually is or what they actually fund, heck no she knows she cant do that because she knows they are tied up in it.

    so she knows she can distract the ignorant persons mind by trying to smear and give the ignorant simple slogans – beck thinks obama is muslim brotherhood – while beck said no such thing.

    bad news is there are many ignorant people running around in the world.

    .

    dont give a snake much room to squirm or it will get away.

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  • JustTheFactsPlease
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:57am

    Why are Liberals even on this site… don’t they get their news from the communist new network… sorry, let’s abbreviate. CNN.

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  • beerme
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:56am

    Can madcow do anything but mock and ridicule? I’ve never seen her actually produce any information contrary to the positions she derides. I really wish the Blaze and site like it would quit giving madcow and tingles exposure on their websites. Seriously! Beck and Hannity have, what, 5 TIMES the viewers of these losers. Putting the nutjobs on these sites only give them more exposure than they deserve. That goes for the TV show, too, Glenn.

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    • Citizen
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:01am

      no because they are on the loosing side in the debate.

      they cant pick solid argumentative ground so all they do is try to smear.

      just click on msnbc and watch how much those hosts talk about fox hosts, i wish there was a stat on how much time msnbc shows spend talking about fox.

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    • Sparky101
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 9:39am

      This is truly a left wing characteristic, attack the person because you can’t attack the facts. Sometimes it appears so inbred that they seem to attack the person even when they could attack the facts (but most times they simply have no facts).

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    • abseas
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 10:58am

      Some real substantive investigative journalism would be very refreshing for a change. I’ve only watched msnbc, and cnn a few times in the past year, and that was for just a few minutes each time because they don’t really inform me of anything worthwhile. Sometimes I can just barely tollerate Hannity and O’rielly, when they are arguing back and forth with guests and nobody is listening. Beck has a research staff and does research himself. He basically reports and warns us about what he learns. . . . No arguing, no confrontations. He says ‘don’t take my word for it, research it yourself.‘ What’s so bad about that? Unfortunately, we have a bunch of dunderheads yapping at us all day long for the most part. It’s no wonder that, for some, their ratings are so low.

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 2:14pm

      Beerme
      Look, like I said in another post, it‘s actually good that ’theblaze puts these videos on the site. The reason is, is that we would not see them, as we’re watching Fox.
      Look, the truth is the truth. People will see that Maddow and Matthews only spew hate, without the facts to back it.
      No, Beerme, this is good exposure for the Pro’s.

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  • dizzyinthedark
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:56am

    Just read this on Breitbart: “FCC Orders NBC Newsrooms To Partner With Soros-Funded Non Profit, by D. Loesch. Under the terms of the FCC order approving Comcast’s takeover of NBCU, at least half of NBC’s 10 O&Os have to find a nonprofit news center with which to work within the next year. The order cites the KNSD-VoiceOfSanDiego.org alliance as the model for what it would like to see in other NBC markets.
    Proponents of the growing nonprofit news movement are hoping that NBC’s FCC-mandated efforts will bear fruit and encourage other commercial TV stations to seek out nonprofit partners.
    There’s just one problem with this: Voice of San Diego is a member of INN (Investigative News Network) which is funded by the Open Society Institute, the URL of which is “www.soros.org.” Yes, these “non-profit” journalism centers are funded by George Soros.”

    Disturbing but not surprising!

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:51am

      So basiclt Comcast had to signed am even farther leftist contract to purchase NBCU . They might as well just flushed their money and their stock owners money down the drain.

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  • cykonas
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:55am

    They have to do something. They are in a fight for their career lives. They know it, and it shows.

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  • KansasPatriot
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:52am

    Her show should be called “Lean so far left that you fall off the flat earth”.

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  • Wahawk
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:52am

    We mock her for resorting to name-calling, then call her names. Every article is like this. Do those of you who post these “clever” ad hominem attacks realize how you look to others reading this site? Glenn deserves better – step up your game!

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    • GhostofCraig
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:49am

      Amen, I was thinking the exact same thing while I was reading these comments.

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    • rodamaa
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 9:31am

      Wahawk

      Since I seem to be the first to start today with those remarks, I must admit you’re right in that we must rise above name calling but sometimes, especially with people like these you need to vent and release stress. This is something even Glenn does sometimes. Remember the “spooky dude” thing with George Soros? During the Tucson tragedy the left took high ground and immediately the drive by media started a gruesome attack on us with devastating results. I put it to you that silence is not an option. Maybe we should all tone it down a bit and be more civil right. Hell NO!

      Since the weather underground days we have been giving ground to these criminals and we take the position that because some of them are elected official now they are respectable. They are not and they will kill you if they could. Yet, I reluctantly agree, that we should stick to the facts and the truth since they are even more damming. Name calling is low class although sometimes a lot more fun less lethal than gun. So forgive us all for being human.

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  • Bob1943
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:51am

    Looks like Rachel has noticed the same changes in Fox News that I have, the difference is, instead of finding Fox has simply became another member of the so-called mainstream media and hating to lose Fox, as I have, Maddow welcomes them to the dark side.

    If you have been a Fox News fan for years…and you still are today, you have changed whether you know it or not. Maybe it’s time to reassess your beliefs to see if you like the changes…or not?

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    • alcarfl
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:59am

      And your source of “news” is….?

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    • rodamaa
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 11:53am

      I had many ex friends in the sixties with the same irrational point of view

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  • tlewis
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:50am

    Here is the kind of woman parents teach their daughters to avoid in restrooms, thank God.

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  • NickDeringer
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:46am

    Ms. Madow is living proof that a college education doesn’t make you wise.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:07am

      Someone once asked be the difference between being educated and being intelligence. Educated is being able to repeat and remember what someone tells you via the student /teacher. Intelligence is being able to think for yourself to take in information and find the truth. So basicly a college education is being able to regurgitate what some liberal professor ideology. Where as intellect is being able to find the truth inspite of your college education(indoctrination)

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    • Lt_Taz
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:42am

      So true, your statement re. a college education just magnifies the point made in a poll which I read last week. Stated in the poll was the fact that 38% of college grads where unable to score any higher then they did as high school seniors.

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  • drago
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:43am

    Rachel Madcow, such a fitting name for this ……………person?

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  • Rob
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:41am

    I can’t watch her, she gives me the willies…

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  • Tucsonan
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:41am

    Dork!

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  • eflow504
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:40am

    poor madcow…

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  • 9thCommandment
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:39am

    That lighting works best for her, she should keep it up…MSNBC destroy the messenger not the message. History tells us what type of Rancid people use this tactic.

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  • Jesse
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:39am

    MadCow at it again….. What an idiot.

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  • blanco
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:39am

    Besides a couple of lesbians who are in love with her, who else watches her or msnbs or communist news network or whatever news? agency he works for?

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  • DIS3
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:38am

    Everyone who cares what she thinks———————there will be a meeting in the phone booth at 10

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    • Mister_Bill
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:23am

      Hey DIS3. What is a phone booth? Is that the boxy-thing next to the Empty Air America Broadcasting Booth?

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  • MiketheTrucker
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:37am

    We don‘t call her Madcow for nothin’.

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  • wildjoker5
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:37am

    If you can’t beat them with logic, beat them with name calling and bulling. Strategy of the left.

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    • Citizen
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:59am

      exactly – she reported nothing on what muslim brotherhood actualy does, only spewed rhetoric.

      and the ignorant and simple on the left eat it up

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    • Goldmember
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:27am

      The witch is in need of a job by June.

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    • Grady Curve
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 9:16am

      There is no logic on the left….. they are fueled by emotion and stupidity….which is a dangerous combination… you want to see what America will look like in a few years… take a look at any major US city under democratic control… a good example is Detroit which in under 50 years of democratic control now loks like this: http://www.ufunk.net/en/photos/detroit-en-ruine-le-declin-dune-grande-ville-americaine/

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    • mill
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 9:21am

      Rachel who?

      quit giving her remarks credence. We are the ones helping the left

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 2:00pm

      wildjoker and citizen
      I guess you noticed that Rachel gives no proof that Glenn or Sean are wrong. Only hate foams from her dirty mouth.
      the blaze is great! I mean, I get to hear and see what nuts like madcow say without actually having to watch their show to wait for them to say it. I couldn’t/wouldn’t do that anyway. I get to watch Fox News, then watch their hatefulness the next day here.

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  • Guerrino_P
    Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:36am

    Beck and Hannity make Fox News what it is: very entertaining… not necessarily the news.

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    • MiketheTrucker
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:39am

      Yes, because for “real news” we need to watch CNN, or MSNBC, right?

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    • USA_DisabledVet
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:41am

      I agree, “for entertainment purposes”.

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    • wildjoker5
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:43am

      Don’t worry, MSNBC is neither entertaining nor the news.

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    • nuttyvet
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:47am

      I almost wish we would be taken over by a Caliphate, then I could laugh as this he-she is forced to wear a burqa!

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    • NickDeringer
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:48am

      MSNBC is just Air America with cameras.

      Glenn Beck has an audience foot print on 30 million while Keith Olbermann is home reading Shakespeare to his cat.

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    • seeker9
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:55am

      Legitimate news reports ALWAYS include a flashlight aimed up the nose.

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    • tbear44
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:01am

      Who is this Rachel Madcow you speak of?

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    • Tucsonan
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:03am

      Rachel Maddow needs to really do research on what she mocks Glenn on. Caliphate is nothing to sneeze at. We have to take notice to the number of islamics that are in the US now and watch them closely. The imam that wants to put the mosque near the WTC site is most likely part of any Caliphate to infiltrate the US.

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    • BeckIsNuts
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:09am

      Glennis the Menace is nothing more than an entertainer. Nobody elected the clown to anything. His talent for stirring up people and then profiting from it seems to work well. The WWE script writers do the same thing, and probably for the same audience. MSNBC does it too. With an abundence of undereducated, gullible people like Sacred Honor, to name just one, in the population, people like Glenn Beck will always be able to make a good living.

       
    • grandmaof5
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:10am

      Guess she was multi-tasking. Who is she anyway?

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    • solaveritas
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:13am

      Have you noticed how much of Maddow’s program does not comment directly on the news, but comments on Beck and Hannity’s comments on the news.

      Hey, Rachel, I would tell you “get your own material” except that I really appreciate you giving “repeat broadcast” coverage to Beck and Hannity’s good material.

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    • rodamaa
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:14am

      Rachel Madcow

      Is nothing short of brilliant, Joseph Goebbels would be proud. George Soros must be pleased with how the millions he is pouring into those new organization is working. You see, the truth does not matter a good lie that gets them through the elections is all that counts.

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    • TrueGrit
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:16am

      NUTTYVET

      Only woman wear Burgas…

      Wolverine

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    • rstarce
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:30am

      You are oh so right, Beck and Hannity are opinion shows , Brett Baier, Chris Wallace, Brit Hume are news people, Just so everyone get’s the facts straight. Some of you people out there actually get what you believe to be legitimate news from Jon Stewart on the comedy channel. What does that say about those people.

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    • ishka4me
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:37am

      Glenn Beck is a madman. I remember when he was urging people to buy gold and said food prices would elevate sharply. Same people said he was crazy. Where is weiner now?

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:38am

      Wonder if Madcow will have to wear a Burka? After all she just looks like a pretty young college guy. When they take over and stone her to death will she still think the Muslims are peace loving?

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    • jackkemo
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:39am

      I can not speak for Hannity as I hardly ever catch his program ,but after watching Glenn’s show yesterday , I spent most of yesterday researching what he said . I’m a history major , and love to read up on the middle east . And I can tell you , everything he has been saying about “ islamic socialism ” and the “ muslim brotherhood ” are ALL documented facts .

      Furthermore , the FACT that code-pink has now been linked to two seperate radical islamic groups ( the muslim brotherhood & hamas ) only lends more credibility to his position . Now if that is what y’all call “ entertainment ” then I implore you to do your own research ( haven’t I heard that before ?) for your opinions on the middle east and the role the wacko left is playing in it’s melt down .

      Glenn is a excelant source of information for one’s own researching abilitys! Some may call him an “ entertainer ” , I am not one of those fools . If I could fold his big , pudgy butt up and stick him in my backpack I would ! READ UP people , the end is nigh !

      Garret Jordan
      jackkemo1979@aol.com

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    • Stuck_in_CA
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:53am

      Does Maddow have Mad Cow?

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    • chuck
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 8:55am

      Gotta love MS-LSD, hey I agree, Rachel Mancow is a very handsome young man…

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    • Stuck_in_CA
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 9:01am

      @nuttyvet

      “I almost wish we would be taken over by a Caliphate, then I could laugh as this he-she is forced to wear a burqa!”
      LOLOLOL! Can you just imagine?!?

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    • rodamaa
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 9:06am

      Stuck_in_CA

      No, she just plays one on TV

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    • TexasCommonSense
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 9:06am

      She may actually be helping Beck’s ratings. People can see from her segment there is another possible outcome to what’s going on in Egypt, despite her condescending attitude. Granted, some of his predictions are very long-term, but some others aren’t. There’s no doubt the Muslim Brotherhood is gaining ground in the middle-east. I pray for Israel.

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    • watchtheotherhand
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 9:07am

      Beckisnuts…… Since you are all wise and have all understanding and are rarely if ever in error would you mind sharing with us your political persuasion? Seems how you love to get on and put everyone down yet rarely do I see you say ANYTHING of substance. If you are liberal then that explains it because very few liberals do ever address facts (just gets in the way), if you are libertarian then you should be able to discuss facts and if you are conservative then you are just arrogant !!!! But you probably won’t reply because most people who practice ad hominem attacks typical are of low standards and will not own up to the fact that they simply like to appear all wise by mocking others (still goes on in high schools all over the country. Just wondering???

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    • Grady Curve
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 9:08am

      You are a moron….sad and pathetic… FOX is the only NEWs that will tell the Truth

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    • HillBillySam1
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 9:09am

      Where was her argument? She did not refute anything that was said on the “Glen Beck Show” or on “Hannity”…..she just mocked them……is that the Progressive argument? She can’t refudiate any of the statements made on either show so she simply mocks them……if the truth was truly on her side, then why didn’t she speak the truth and put Glen and Hannity in their place? Her argument was to put a flashlight under her chin and act arrogant and condenscending……of which I think is an example of the best Progressive argument that I have seen so far……I hope that BECKISNUTS is stocked up on “D” batteries for his flashlight……

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    • mill
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 9:16am

      Obviously you are watching a different news station than the rest of us are.

      Stations other than FOX ….have ratings in the basement.

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    • JStewart
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 9:19am

      Entertainment?

      Oh, I see. That’s very entertaining.

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    • Sparky101
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 9:36am

      Ignore Beckisnuts. He is a paid troll. Notice he says “The WWE script writers do the same thing, and probably for the same audience. MSNBC does it too. With an abundence of undereducated, gullible people.” He honestly believes he is better, smarter, and more educated than most anyone else, and he doesn’t mind saying so. But, he will never answer an honest question with an honest answer. For instance, I’ve asked him often which branch of the service he joined to defend our country and our rights. Crickets. He selects the items carefully to respond to, and does it simply to raise your ire and to insult you. He’s a troll. Best that we all just pretend he does not exist. He is not worthy of our time.

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    • exdem
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 9:36am

      I feel sorry for this little Maddow fella. First his parents name him Rachel and lets face it , even God jipped him in the looks department. And yet despite that, he manages to get his own little show on MSNBC. His little show starts failing and he becomes totally unglued on air and no one stops him from making a complete fool of himself. I think someone should show a little compassion over there and set up an intervention with a psychologist and plastic surgeon. Poor little guy…..

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    • JoeBtfsplk
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 9:52am

      BECKISNUTS GUY is the one that is NUTS. –

      Truth is – Alynsky Rules – LIE OFTEN ENOUGH AND SOME WILL BELIEVE YOU.

      Better to bring “Back-up” FACTS to refute BECK. Playground politics won’t work.
      (It’s my ball – no it’s my ball – I‘m not playing and I’ll take my ball home)

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    • BriPhi
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 9:56am

      I find it extremely ironic that Fox News reports the news, and MSNBC reports on what Fox has to say about it rather than the news. Liberalism is really on it’s last legs when, rather than doing it’s job, spends all of its time obsessing over Fox News. Rachel Madcow should stick to reporting facts, but she has never met a fact that she couldn’t change to suit her agenda.

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    • APatriotFirst
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 11:03am

      What does msnbc do when it all comes true? Is there enough crows out there for them to eat?

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    • longhorn mama
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 11:08am

      You might want to try believing in God first before you start invoking his blessings there, Rachel.

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    • Rogue
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 11:12am

      That may be the most intellegent segment I have ever seen by Maddow. As usual, she didn’t attempt to argue any points made and used out-of-context snippets, but on the other hand, opening her mouth about her opinions on this issue would have exposed her as not having a freaking clue. Keep setting the bar low, Rachel – you’ll always have a prime-time spot at MSNBC.

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    • jzs
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 11:41am

      Beck is right about the caliphate thing. I’ve seen this coming for years, since the 60s at least. Francis Scott Piven is a card carrying member of the pro-caliphate SOB (Sisters of the Brotherhood) since June of 69, when she was seen having coffee with a Muslim woman. It’s a documented fact that Soros is a member of WTF (Worldwide Theocratic Fellowship), joining the organization in September of 1981. Both are practicing IMOs (International Muslim Organization) and STDs (Sharia Theocracy of Dakota).

      Behind the scenes these puppet masters are masterfully guiding the insurrection, which will engulf the middle east, then Europe then the United States in a world wide caliphate, otherwise knows as a new world government, in 2012, just as the Mayans predicted.

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    • OutOfTheAether
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 11:48am

      @ JACKKEMO

      I’m with you.

      I’m not a history major, more as a hobby (for more years than I care to admit to) . I discovered an interesting thing while researching something Glenn referred to yesterday on his radio program. While they were discussing about the Somali pirates, he mentions about the monument in Annapolis so I looked it up and found it referred to the First and Second Barbary wars – against MUSLIM pirates no less. What I ran across was something that first raised my eyebrows and then, as its implications sunk in, gave me that “oh, holy crap” feeling. Everyone, just do a google search on the First Barbary war and read the Wikipedia article (it has footnotes that check out, so it’s legit). Halfway down the article references the experience that Thomas Jefferson had in dealing with the Tripoli ambassador.
      (see “American Peace Commissioners to John Jay,” March 28, 1786, “Thomas Jefferson Papers,” Series 1. General Correspondence. 1651-1827, Library of Congress. LoC: March 28, 1786.)

      According to that source, Jefferson asks the ambassador “concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury”, referring to their taking American ships. Wherein the reply was, “It was written in their Qu’ran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every Muslim who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise.”

      Now I remember reading this some years back, and I never truly understood the implications then. I do now. This was said in 1795. It displays a mindset that goes all the way to the beginning of Islam, and is chilling in its implications. that “right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave” sinners gives full license to do just about anything. There’s no bargaining with it, there’s no reasoning with it, there’s no such thing as compromise – bluntly put, you‘re toast if you’re a sinner – and that’s us in their fanatical minds. IMHO, THIS is the point Beck wants us to get by looking into the subject of Caliphate

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    • OutOfTheAether
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 11:51am

      @JZS

      Do you have links to corroborate what you posted. I’d be interested in reading them

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    • pajamash
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 11:59am

      Racheal, at least they are trying to figure out what is going on. You, on the other hand, only ridicule others. You give no information about what is happening in the world today. Each religion has, in the past, and continue today to have a drive to expand their presence in the world. A quick search of the web finds a good number of influential muslim leaders having stated their desire for their religion to spread across the globe.

      Will you go on television after thousands of jewish people are killed by muslims and apologize? Just as it was before World War II hatred is building for those of the Jewish faith. More and more of the residents of Egypt are going on camera and expressing their hatred for Isreal. We can not foresee the future but we should learn from the past. There is a good possibility that the peace Egypt has shared with Isreal for many years could end. What will it take for you to open your eyes and do some real reporting?

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    • Greyhound424
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 12:33pm

      Moron. Fox news is the ONLY channel that actually reports the news. Pull your head out of that deep, smelly crevis between your legs. you have been eating liberal BS in EPIC proportions!!!! It’s time to leave the liberal dinner table.

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    • Decade of Greed
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 1:31pm

      Hey Maddow, “Rome” called, they’d like you to put down your fiddle and start helping!

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    • beckisnutsisnuts
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 3:04pm

      the trolls are back in town, the trolls are back in town

      trolls are back, trolls are back…..

      your aren‘t good enough to wipe Glen’s behind you ignorant loonie bird!

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    • beckisnutsisnuts
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 3:12pm

      OutOfTheAether – responding to JZS

      Look up the word ‘sarcasm’ in the dictionary

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    • OutOfTheAether
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 4:34pm

      @BECKISNUTSISNUTS

      You got me all wrong. I agree with his opinion of Beck. Some of the ‘facts’ he quotes were new to me and I seriously wanted to know where he got the other information so I can add it to my library. Like Beck exhorts us to do all the time “check it out for yourself”. I‘m not one of those that gets blown about by every wind of ’opinion’. I have family who’s gone liberal over the last few years, and only facts that I have personally corroborated and double-checked are effective in my discussions with them. My request was simply done in an effort to save me some time and effort.

      @ JZS my apologies if my request came off wrong

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    • beckisnutsisnuts
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 4:53pm

      You obviously have not been around here long enough to know that JZS is a liberal troll who hates Beck and everything he stands for. Look up his posts in other threads. This troll was being sarcastic, he does not believe a word Beck says. No need to EVER apologize to that ignoramus.

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    • ArmedAndNotDangerous
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 5:06pm

      You are correct sir. Maddow, Beck, Schultz, Hannity, Olberman, O’Rielly, Matthews, O’Donnel are all NOT news shows they are commentaries. And obviously you can see that, right?

      For NEWS you must go down the hall to the left and see Blitzer, Williams, Couric or Sawyer.
      If you go straight you will see Mr. Baier. Ummm K?

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    • altops
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 6:41pm

      They never ever claimed to be journalist… But common sense observation is Golden.

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    • Put_God_ First
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 6:45pm

      I was always wondering who Gilda Radner was imitating when she was doing Anna Rosanna Danna.
      Gilda Radner was ahead of her time. She was imitating someone 40 years ahead of her time. She was imitating her even before she was born. Also Gilda nailed Rachel Maddow, just put a wig like that on Rachel Maddow. Oh yeah, Rachel Maddow would rather look like a man. ooops!

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    • Clive
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 7:39pm

      fox’s ratings are good BECAUSE its entertaining. regular news is boring. more people watch when you saw/do ridiculous things. see beck, maddow, hannity, ed, etc.

      you know what else gets good ratings? american idol. doesn’t make the music good.

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    • DisillusionedDaily
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 9:12pm

      Sean, Bill O, Greta, and Glenn are not newscaster or reporters, They offer their opinions of the news. That is more than any of the “personalities” at MSNBC do. It seems to me that they are too busy ridiculing, Fox and it’s personalities as well as Republicans and the Tea Party. They do not counter the opinions of those they disagree with using factual arguments and logic to state their cases, they just trash the opposition in their cute, insulting way. MSNBC could have been a great news and opinion outlet, but it’s not! That might serve to explain their ratings.

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    • conservativeone
      Posted on February 4, 2011 at 10:08pm

      Guerrino_P

      I think what people tend to confuse is “News” and “Talk Show Hosts”.
      MSNBC / FOX NEWS / CNN all provide News Coverage. They also provide Talk Shows.
      Hannity is no more the News than Rachel Maddow is the News. Both have their agenda.
      I think they the “Left” tries to insinuate that Fox News is not the News because of Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and Bill O’Reilly. However, they fail to apply the same standards to MSNBC when it comes to Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews or Lawrence O’Donnell. None of these “Talk Show Hosts” are the News either. Again, they have an agenda.

      And if you notice, Olbermann, Maddow, Matthews and O’Donnell spend half their shows attacking Hannity, O’Reilly and Beck. They feel the need to demonize them because otherwise they cannot compete against them. So their strategy is to try and discredit their opposition.
      Maybe they need to pay more attention to their horrific ratings and less time on Beck, Hannity and O’Reilly.

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    • Okieflyover
      Posted on February 5, 2011 at 12:32am

      If the Maddow show was “Happy Days”, you would see them setting up the fish tank with the Shark and Fonzi would be cleaning his bike.

      Next on Rachel Maddow, “she jumps the shark”.

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    • Okieflyover
      Posted on February 5, 2011 at 12:38am

      @conservativeone:
      You are close…. The problem with your summary is that MSNBC has no news hosts. For example, on Election Night, MSNBC only had one table that Olberrman, Maddow, Matthews and 2 other analysts on the table. No other people were included in the Broadcast.

      Foxnews had an anchor desk. A separate table existed for the analysts including Hannity, Rove and others. O‘Reilly wasn’t on the coverage that night at all nor was Beck.

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    • One1
      Posted on February 5, 2011 at 2:27am

      How will these folks at MSNBC explain to their viewers when all these truths manifest that they spent their time mocking the bell ringer instead of helping their viewers to prepare.
      MSNBC will lose all their viewers.
      The Liberal news have put themselve in a box. They have potrayed the conservative as loons. Anytime the conservative report anything the lib media automatically will not cover it. If they do, they look like the agree with Fox. If the dont and it comes true it looks like they are clueless. They will lose.

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    • *************************
      Posted on February 5, 2011 at 5:41am

      Maddow … is a … she? :O

      Gov. Le PETOMANE: “Thank you, Hedy. Thank you.”
      HEDLEY LAMARR: “It’s not Hedy. It’s Hedley. Hedley Lamarr.”
      -Blazing Saddles

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    • OutOfTheAether
      Posted on February 5, 2011 at 11:31am

      @ beckisnutsisnuts
      checked past posts and, yup, you’re right. Thanks for the heads up

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    • smallstuff7
      Posted on February 5, 2011 at 1:00pm

      Mad Maddow’s attitude is typical. When Ignaz Semmelweiss and Louis Pasteur demanded hand washing in hospitals, they became a laughingstock among their esteemed colleagues. Semmelweiss died as a result of their rejection of the need for hygiene. It was a life and death matter that was ignored by those who refused to do the research. Can we possibly expect more from the lame stream media?

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    • Daddymac10
      Posted on February 6, 2011 at 3:06am

      Huh, Rachel MadCow wearing a burqa would actually enhance her appearance. MSNBC need to get off FOX‘s jockstrap because whatever they doing over there ain’t working. Like Air-America, can’t wait til they go off air..

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