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Shock Study: Teens Can Contract HPV Without Sex

Study: Teens Contracting HPV Without Intercourse Makes Case for Gardasil Vaccination

University of Miami pediatrician, Judith L. Schaechter, M.D., gives an HPV vaccination to a 13-year-old girl in her office. (Photo: Joe Raedle/Getty Images)

A new study of female teens and young adults found 11.6 percent who were virgins — those who never had sexual intercourse — were still infected with the sexually transmitted human papillomavirus (HPV).

Study: Teens Contracting HPV Without Intercourse Makes Case for Gardasil Vaccination

Gardasil is a three-dose vaccine manufactured by Merck to prevent contraction of HPV, some strains of which can lead to cervical cancer. (Photo: Joe Raedle/Getty Images)

According to MyHealthNewsDaily, although HPV is generally and most easily transmitted through intercourse, “genital-to-genital or hand-to-genital contact” can pass the virus as well. The study, published by the Archives of Pediatric & Adolescent Medicine and led by assistant professor at Cincinnati Children’s Hospital Lea Widdice, used these findings as a case for further recommending Gardasil, the HPV vaccine that protects against cancer-causing strains of the STD.

The study was funded by the National Institute of Health, but MyHealthNewsDaily does disclose that a colleague of Widdice receives research funding from Merck, the company manufacturing Gardasil.

MyHealthNewsDaily also points out that the study focused only one community of primarily African American women, and within the study group there was a high percentage of participants who were sexually active or had some sort of sexual contact. This means more research would be needed to show if the results actually represented the general population, as “the prevalence of HPV may be lower in a group with different sexual behaviors.”

The study evaluated 259 women age 13 through 21, finding 69 had not had sexual intercourse at all. Of those, eight still had at least one strain of HPV.

MyHealthNewsDaily reports cancer epidemiologist from McGill University Eduardo Franco, who was not involved in the study, saying this percentage is higher than expected, but he did note the high exposure to at least some sort of sexual experience as potentially being the cause.

The U.S. Center for Disease Control and Prevention recommends vaccinating girls age 11 to 12 with the three-dose vaccine to prevent against strains of HPV that can cause cervical cancer. The CDC also recommends the vaccine for boys as well age 9 to 26.

“The vaccine is very safe and highly effective, but it works best if we can give it to girls and boys before they’re sexually active,” said according to Good Morning America.

Still, the vaccine has long been considered controversial for various reasons ranging from its safety to necessity of parental consent.

A New Zeeland family, for example, recently accused the vaccine of killing their daughter. The NZCity News reports 18-year-old Jasmine Nicole Renata died in 2009, but her family more recently told a coroner’s inquest they believe Gardasil is to blame:

Capital and Coast District Health Board clinical geneticist Dr Katherine Neas told the inquest Miss Renata’s symptoms pointed toward her suffering a congenital heart problem.

Testing for one genetic abnormality had ruled out that condition, but Miss Renata’s family had so far refused to be tested for other conditions which could help find the cause of her death, or discount other causes, Dr Neas said.

Mrs Renata rejected the suggestion her daughter died from a heart problem as there was no family history of heart problems.

“The only one who‘s not here is my daughter and she’s the only one who took Gardasil.”

There have also been several cases in the news within the last few years where minors were given the vaccine without parental consent even, including a 14-year-old girl in Detroit. The University of Michigan C.S. Mott Children‘s Hospital National Poll on Children’s Health found 57 percent of parents believe consent should be required by legal guardians before a minor was administered the vaccine. According to the press release about the poll, the most common reason (86 percent) for believing consent should be required was that HPV should be a parent’s decision; 43 percent cited the risk of side effects of the vaccine; and 40 percent said they have moral or ethical concerns about the vaccine.

Watch this report on the poll:

A recent literature review published in the journal Viral Immunology also found targeting the vaccine toward men may not be effective considering economic and social factors. The authors wrote “economic prediction models suggest that the associated costs outweigh the benefits in most circumstances. Taking this into account, our review also considers alternate methods of maximizing prevention of HPV-associated disease.”

(H/T: TheBlaze reader Karol O., Fox News)

Comments (60)

  • Mojoron
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:44am

    What is all this talk about HPV? After all is it a VIRUS and can live anywhere on a human. If it is alive on your lips and you kiss your new baby it can be infected. Remember that many STD’s are viri or bacteria and can be passed like any other infection can be passed, by touch for an infected person. Cancer of the throat a malady of men who have HPV of the mouth and throat is a relatively new malady, but it has probably been a problem for centuries but not diagnosed until recently.

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  • lineinthesand
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:00am

    Is anyone else a little disturbed by the claimed stat that “57 percent of parents believe consent should be required by legal guardians before a minor was administered the vaccine”? 57%?? A little over half of ‘parents’ believe they should be consulted before their kid is given this? Shouldn’t that be 100%?

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    • seljo1701a
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 1:12pm

      I hear ya. This is more propaganda. The use a technicality that as many as 11% of “virgins” carry this. Of course, burried in the overly verbose article is the fact that, essentially any contact with genitalia can pass the virus. “Well, I’ll be dawg gawn, Sue-Anne, I ain‘t think I could catch nuttin’ from ya that-a-way… We never *really* did ‘it’…”

      How stupid do they think we are?

      Ammo to be used against those who are opposed to mandatory vaccination, or those who accurately state that people who are not sexually active are at virtually no risk of this disease.

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    • K Chad Roberts
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 2:00pm

      That 43% that don‘t think it’s necessary are fine with the vaccine for their own kids, and believe that other parents’ children should be forced into it as well. I’m fine with the vaccine myself, but this isn’t a pandemic or epidemic… HPV is spread through behavior, so I see absolutely no public health reason to mandate this vaccine. Freedom trumps all.

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  • kindling
    Posted on August 9, 2012 at 2:04am

    and what about children exposed at birth? I know of a child exposed at birth with it all over their hands and it has been passed to family members. I think this shot is a very bad idea when you don’t have to have any sexual comtact to get these viruses and people have died from the shots.

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  • Kilkman
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 11:56pm

    HPV is common, different regions developed different strains in isolation. While not dangerous in its native population, some strains cause cancers in non-native populations. HPV was first discovered in the 70′s by a Doctor Pritchard at the University of Iowa. He discovered that the African Strain and middle eastern strains Dramatically increased the risk of Cervical and Uterine cancer in Caucasian women. Furthermore Also elevated the risk of prostate and testicular cancer Caucasian men. Spread by bodily fluids, not skin contact. That’s the politically correct way of making a politically incorrect statement. but its pointless. Can’t help who you fall in love with and when you consider that when you sleep with some one, your sleeping with every one that some one was slept with and on and on, promiscuity is the culprit. not any race or creed, each of which carried its own deadly critters. the logical thing to do is get tested before you get naked, and hope your mate is faithful. Guardasil has a 10-15% side effect rate ranging from blindness to death. Judicialwatch.org has the docs and the class action lawsuit.

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    • corbecket
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 2:56am

      @Kilkman

      “10-15% Blindness to Death”?!?!

      Where on Earth did your get those numbers? It’s not in the primary study, if your quoting that as your evidence. You don’t think what you said is correct.

      Yes, there were deaths in the study group, but it was a large group, and the death rate was not different than a normal population (young people do die). A number died of auto accidents, murder, suicide, disease and infectionsbut that doesn’t meant that Guardasil causes auto accident deaths. It just means that some people in the study died of auto accidents. I would suggest that you take a look at the study itself. There is nothing there that supports your statement.

      As to the 26 deaths that were reportedly uncovered by Judicial Watch, if you take a look at the incidents themselves, there was nothing I could see that indicated that Guardasil caused the deaths. Again, young people die, and coincidence does not prove causality. In any event, it is interesting research, and having lawyers at Jucicialwatch “analyzing” the medical data does give me pause.

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    • corbecket
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 3:26am

      @Kilkman

      Sorry, I did not quote you correctly. The quote should have been,
      “Guardasil has a 10-15% side effect rate ranging from blindness to death. ”

      I still don’t agree that any of the data supports your statement, but I don’t like misquoting people either. My apologies.

      I thought I typed, “I don’t think what you said is correct”, but it came out as “You don’t think what you said is correct”. I need to proofread more often.

      I think you’ll agree that 10-15% of the folks, taking the vaccine, do not have symptoms ranging from blindness to death. Really take a shot at reading the original study. It’s not as damning as some of the folks here are making it.

      Still, it seems like every vaccine that comes along gets similar treatment from the same crowd. I’ll warrant that Louis Pasteur was roasted in his time as well, but because of his vaccine, you don’t find smallpox around anymore. Vaccines do have their benefits.

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  • Carborendum
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 10:06pm

    The article states that it can be transmitted via hand-to-genital contact. People still consider going to third base “not sex”–and therefore, still virgins.

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  • no_kool_aid
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 10:06pm

    Sorry, I don’t buy it. In fact, I don’t think medicine is on the side of the people. Big pharm regulates itself. That is why most all of the regulatory board members have ties to the pharm companies.

    Who needs this type of healthcare? Don‘t get sick or else you’ll end up taking some wildly concocted potion containing aborted children. Don’t think it is true? Check out what is in the latest MMR vaccines, and you’ll see what is going on.

    http://www.xconomy.com/seattle/2010/10/01/embryonic-stem-cell-research-foe-tracy-deisher-seeks-to-build-pro-life-vaccine-company-nonprofit/

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  • Libertyluvnmomma
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 9:11pm

    “these vaccines are very safe”

    how safe are they?
    with over 100 strains of HPV these Gardasil vaccines cover maybe 6 ?( It used to be 3) That is still a 94% failure rate.

    vactruth.com people check it out.

    Among the virgins..did any of these kids have sexually active parents? shared towels,bathrooms.diaper changes, yada yada. This is a virus. The toilet seat argument may be far fetched but contracting viruses is really easy.
    I know a person who got staph from ultrasound gel at the dr.s office.
    A friend had blood taken (recently) and some dripped on the bed type thing is the exam room. The nurse wiped it up with an alcohol pad and when the friend mentioned gloves to the nurse ( because she wasn’t wearing any) she said, “you look clean”.
    …….uhm,ok.

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  • willingtoupe
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 8:40pm

    According to Happeh Theory, masterbation can make you blind and cripple.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 9:04pm

      I wonder how many cases are from TSA body searches without changing gloves between passengers. I‘m told by medical professionals it’s a “Definite Possibility!”

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 3:42pm

      I thought that it caused hair to grow on the palms of your hand.

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  • woemcat
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 8:19pm

    no treatment, unless it’s emergency (i’m talking like coming through an ER due to a serious car accident) should be performed w/o parent/legal guardian consent. that would mean ANYTHING from giving an aspirin to a surgical procedure. i think Gardasil should be on the RECOMMENDED list, but not required. i might have my kids get it (if i had kids) to protect against, God forbid, they get raped by someone who is dirty. and BTW, this non-intercourse sex is STILL SEX, which means they’re NOT VIRGINS!

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 9:02pm

      I went to a seminar about the the government a couple of years ago..the speaker said that the flu vaccines had cancer cells and tissue from dead animals in them..An acquintance of mine..being just 22 yrs old at the time took her young son to get the flu vaccine and while at the same time getting her gardesil shot..I grimaced,,but said nothing..not more than 6 mos. later she came up with the first stages of cancer that the shot was supposed to protect against….I asked her if she asked the doctors why the shot had not protected her ..she said that they told her that there are hundreds of different strains of that cancer..As I understand..cervical cancer ..is very rare..something tells me that it will not be rare for long..

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  • FEWL
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 7:57pm

    This is just another study to ‘prove’ why this vaccine is needed. We have gone from creating amazing vaccines to finding some new way to sell drugs. I do not believe it anymore. Science has sold out too many times for lawyers, politicians, political movements and corporations. Enough.

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  • WAKEUPUSA2012
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 7:12pm

    Sure they can, from getting the vaccine its self. Vaccines are eugenics population control tools.

    http://educate-yourself.org/vcd

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  • WAKEUPUSA2012
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 7:11pm

    Sure they can, from getting the vaccine its self. Vaccines are eugenics population control tools.

    http://educate-yourself.org/vcd/

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  • MOLLYPITCHER
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 6:44pm

    “SAFE and highly effective” my arse.

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  • cruffler78
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 6:26pm

    Am I misreading something or is this a bunch of Double speak? “genital-to-genital or hand-to-genital contact” can pass the virus as well. The last I checked putting your hands on someones Genitals is a SEX act DOH!

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 6:37pm

      Not according to Bill Clinton’s definition.

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    • chips1
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 6:42pm

      Not the way they do it at airports. It’s called “rape”,

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 7:07pm

      Maybe they are using an “academic” as opposed to a common sense definition of sex act. Frotting is not sex whereas intercourse is.

      Of course their distinction makes sense when you think about it. If a former president who was disbarred from practicing law can argue about what the meaning of the word is is, then the it is okay for these academics & pharma paid researchers (rent seekers) to dissemble.

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  • JustPeachy
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 6:26pm

    I HATE it when other seem to want to not just “suggest” something as “good for us,” but continue to PUSH it on us. . soon afterwards, making it “mandatory.” I am naturally suspicious of things others seem so EAGER for others to have – for “the greater good,” of course. It has been shown that vaccinations are not always GOOD things for us. Proceed with MUCH caution. And wow. . it seems to me that all of a sudden they come up with a “study” that shows this necessary for virgins too–their “untapped market,” perhaps??? Seems awfully convenient. . .!

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 6:40pm

      My wife participated in a very lengthy telephone poll about vaccines last year. It was out of Chicago. The woman asking the questions got very irritated when the subject turned to Gardisil and my wife said she wouldn’t be getting our daughters immunized. “Why not?” they asked. “Because they are not going to have sex until they are married.” — this got a very loud sigh from the interviewer.

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 7:03pm

      @Chuck Stein

      Even if your daughters do wait until then, there is no guarantee their husbands will have waited meaning that they are still at risk of contracting HPV. Just because you wait until marriage to have sex does not mean that you are not at risk of contracting something.

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 7:09pm

      The sigh from the interviewer was likely because your wife exposed herself as an idiot.

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    • WAKEUPUSA2012
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 7:18pm

      Godfather.1

      Do the world a favor and go hang yourself like you have been dreaming about. Just hurry up with it, your miserable, you want to make other people miserable, but its not doing it for you anymore. Just let go.

      WAKEUPUSA2012  
    • Dejavu
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 7:23pm

      @Godfather.1, by your own comments, you have exposed yourself as being the idiot. Would you give this unproven treatment to any of your children just because the government has told you to? Any why must you insist on using insults to get your non-point across?

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 7:35pm

      @Dejavu

      First of all, I never said anything about getting the vaccination because the government says you should. Second, it actually is effective and studies have proven so.

      Non-point? So you don’t believe that someone who waits until marriage could still get HPV from their partner?

      Or, is it that you believe Michelle Bachmann with her baseless assertion that the vaccine makes you retarded?

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    • wvernon1981
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 7:41pm

      ” “Because they are not going to have sex until they are married.”” Well, that’s absolutely wishful thinking.

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    • WAKEUPUSA2012
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 7:42pm

      Godfather.1

      Maybe its the statistic that in the 60s 1 in 10,000 kids had autisim, today its 1 in 100. So you continue with being a willfull vitctim of eugenics and population control, we God fearing people will let our bodies fight these things off. We made it this far with no vaccines, I think we can keep going. You a true tool with a hurtfull statement like the one you said. And try and prove me worng on that statistic.

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 8:08pm

      @WAKEUPUSA2012

      So, back before there was a vaccine for polio I guess all those people that died from polio didn’t make it very far did they? How about smallpox? The flu?

      I see you are one of those that believe vaccines lead to autism despite there being no medical evidence to back that claim. I guess you get your medical advice from Jenny McCarthy and not your doctor.

      As for there being higher rates of autism now, did it ever occur to you that in the 60s fewer people had access to doctors and thus fewer people were diagnosed? Did it ever occur to you that certain symptoms are overdiagnosed nowadays in order to prescribe certain medications?

      Of course, I know all of this evidence and logic will be lost on you and you continue to think I am “worng.”

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    • WAKEUPUSA2012
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 8:28pm

      Look you said something very hurtful. You deserve to be B**** slapped. BUT you can think however you want, just like I can. But there were enough doctors back then. If we can know what the weather was like in 1850, im sure doctors knew what was going on in the 60s. I get my info from Dr Steve Wallick and others, you get your info from a big pharma paid hack who pushes pills. You sound like you work for big pharma, im sorry if thats true. You have blood on your hands. And as we continue to push this debate into public light, you guys are going to start to loose, and loose big. So get use to it.

      http://educate-yourself.org/vcd/

      There is TONS of refrences there of ALL SORTS OF STUDIES. So quit trying to sell your snake oil here buddy.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 9:11pm

      @Chuck Stein
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 6:40pm

      My wife participated in a very lengthy telephone poll about vaccines last year. It was out of Chicago. The woman asking the questions got very irritated when the subject turned to Gardisil and my wife said she wouldn’t be getting our daughters immunized. “Why not?” they asked. “Because they are not going to have sex until they are married.” — this got a very loud sigh from the interviewer
      ***
      Sounds very good, but only if the spouse has the same moral values and keeps them. My grown daughter found out the hard way her husband was cheating on her. Several years later, she needed surgery for a “Pre-Cancerous” condition! Dr’s said it definitely was caused by HPV.

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  • Walkabout
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 6:10pm

    There is no baseline for this study.

    What is the frequency for the 16 different types of HPV (including the 2 most likely to cause cervical & penile cancer) in the general population by age cohorts?

    Also what are the transmission rates compared transmission via sexual contact (higher I assume).

    Big Pharma has been making Me too drugs, which in many cases have no greater efficacy or possibly slightly worse to keep drugs from going generic. In some respects I don;t blame them because many people especially AIDS activists are trying to gut patents.

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  • TJexcite
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 6:07pm

    There was a study that 80% of the population at any age has some strain of HPV on their person. The vaccine always was to immunize you to a strain that causes Cancer not remove all strains of HPV from your person. The marketing of the whole HPV vaccine was wrong from the get go. HPV is not a sexual transmitted virus as this study now shows and it should not be called a STD. The stigma of a 12 year old being vaccinated and now ready for sex is wrong on all levels.

    If someone tests paper money, studies have it that 90% of it it has traces of fecal coliform and cocaine. If the HPV is hardy, it too could be passed by money and then those 20% would also have it but they have immune system are good and prevents infection of all stains.

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    • cruffler78
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 6:25pm

      please cite the study demonstrating that HPV is not an STD or clarify if you mean average hpv or the type that can cause cancer. I am not saying you are wrong but the study clearly demonstrates that it IS an STD “genital-to-genital or hand-to-genital contact” can pass the virus as well. DID I miss something? .If you have your hands on their Genitals it is a SEX act (unless you are a medical provider in which you would know to wear gloves)

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 6:28pm

      I can’t see getting infected by & clearing one strain of HPV would make you immune to all strains. It might make you more resilient to other strains but maybe not immune form other strains depending how different they were. In middle school I remember getting several vaccination for different strains of meningitis that was taking out kids left, right & center during an epidemic. Also flu vaccines & flu immunity does not seem to work that way.
      I figure if you had some vaccinations you still wouldn’t want to play around. You get a lot of ()threshold) a pathogen in a localized area of the body, a person might clear it due to immunizations but it might still wreak some harm before being cleared.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 6:33pm

      cruffler78
      I assume that HPV can pass skin to skin no matter what areas come into contact. Areas around the genitals being more porous have a greater chance of HPV establishing itself.

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  • Oh, God!
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 6:03pm

    “A new study of female teens and young adults found 11.6 percent who were virgins — those who never had sexual intercourse…”

    I like how they had to give you the definition of what a virgin is, Is it that ancient of a term that people need a definition to know what it means? Or am I missing something here?

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  • Force2bewreckin
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 6:01pm

    Sponsored by Big Pharma.

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  • Quasimofo
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 5:34pm

    There goes the handies.

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  • GoodStuff
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 5:23pm

    Who financed the study..Rick Perry?

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  • Its Gonna Getcha
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 5:23pm

    If news like this occurs during a stint in “Obamacare” they may find it’s not financially feasible for us to know and pay someone to shut down the information mill. And yes, that‘s a lab mouse with a human ear growing on it’s side in my avatar. It’s real. Body farming. Google it.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 6:16pm

      It would be better to grow such an ear via machine than on the back of another person or mouse.

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  • loriann12
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 5:20pm

    And you can get Herpes or Aids from the toilet seat. This is just because parents are choosing NOT to vaccinate their boys. Every time I go to the pediatrician with my now 13 year old I get pressured to give him that shot.

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    • Dejavu
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 5:56pm

      Agreed. I don’t believe this study at all. My grandson turned 12 in April and they want him to get this vaccine. I told my daughter not to let them give it to him. Number one, I believe it’s a scam and Number two, I think this vaccine has possible side affects that no person should ever have to go through.

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    • chips1
      Posted on August 8, 2012 at 6:39pm

      The government is obsessed with injecting people with just about anything. Thalymide rings a bell. (sp).

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    • loriann12
      Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:19am

      It’s just like the flu vaccine. Why in the world would they push this on pregnant women? I have a compromised immune system due to cancer, and my oncologist told me if ANYONE in my family gets a flu vaccine, I WILL get the flu. I have to tell my son’s pediatrician that every time I go in, too. I was told by someone I trust that if you have a compromised immune system, DON’T get a flu shot. I asked one time for adjuvant free shots, and they had none. They all have something in them besides what they’re supposedly protecting you from.

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  • www.TopTheNews.com
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 5:19pm

    Vaccines aren’t always good?

    I just assumed Big Pharma was out to help people… *sarc off

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on August 8, 2012 at 5:17pm

    So should we believe this or not?

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