Shock Surveillance Video Shows LAPD Officers Body-Slamming ‘Defenseless Woman’ Into the Pavement During Violent Arrest
- Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:04am by
Billy Hallowell
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A startling video that is making its rounds shows two Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) officers snatching a female driver and violently slamming her body into the ground — twice. The woman’s alleged offense? Talking on her cell phone while driving and, subsequently, resisting arrest. As a result of the trauma, Michelle Jordan, 34, sustained intensive bruising and other related blemishes and injuries.
The incident unfolded after the registered nurse and mother was apparently seen by authorities using her phone while operating her vehicle — an action that is banned by law in the State of California. Officers followed her car into the parking lot of a Del Taco restaurant in Tujunga, California, on August 21, where the arrest then took place. The entire incident, according to the Daily Mail, was captured on surveillance video.
Jordan, who is 5-feet 4-inches, apparently didn‘t listen to officers’ commands (or so say officials looking into the matter). After she got out of her vehicle, she purportedly was told to get back inside. When she refused, the male officers slammed Jordan onto the ground and then handcuffed her. But the bizarre incident didn’t end there. She was then slammed again into the ground.
Michelle Jordan's injuries (Photo Credit: ABC7)
Despite a failure to purportedly listen to officers’ commands, Police Chief Charlie Beck issued a statement earlier this week claiming that he has “serious concerns” about how the scenario was handled. He pledged to investigate the force used and to “hold…officers accountable for their actions.”
The woman’s lawyer, Sy Nazif, told The Los Angeles Times via e-mail that the officers should be prosecuted and that his client was a “defenseless woman” who was bashed into the ground without reason.
“If a civilian were to assault a woman in this manner, he would go to jail,” Nazif wrote. “These officers must be held to the same standard. They have to be held accountable.”
“We have a defenseless woman in a sundress, two fully armed police officers with training in various restraining devices that they could have used, and instead they used brutal force to take a woman down to the ground for no reason,” added Arthur Corona, another one of Jordan’s attorneys.
Raymond Branch, a witness who was outside of the Del Taco restaurant when the situation unfolded, said that he was surprised by the use of force. While he claims the arrest was warranted, the violence, in his view, was not.
Another photo showing Michelle Jordan's injuries (Photo Credit: ABC7)
“The first part, I believe they had a right to arrest her for resisting, but the second part was overboard,” he explained.
Even Nazif admits that the woman made some “unwise moves,” but the force used against her, he contends, simply wasn’t warranted. A police investigation into the matter is in its preliminary stages.
(H/T: Daily Mail)
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Comments (424)
Polwatcher
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:51amThe video shows two muscular thugs beating up a 130 pound handcuffed woman. If the police car was not in the video, we would not know the thugs were masqurading as policemen. The thugs need to be in jail right now, until the investigation is completed
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:25amThese are not aberrations anymore, they are routine occurrances.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:41amDo a search on this
Report Post »+Officer +killed +traffic +stops
Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:44amPolice have their own newspapers like every other profession. They have their own anxieties. Of course the public doesn‘t know this because they don’t read those stats very often if at all.
Out of sight, out of mind, carry on. Nothing was to see here.
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U.S. police fatalities up 13 percent in 2011 to 173
December 28, 2011 1:18 AM
http://www.gazette.com/articles/officers-130835-police-killed.html#ixzz252aCExVv
Report Post »CommonSenseTalk
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:51amI only see one cop doing this, not two. Don’t throw away the baby with the bath water.
Report Post »P.S. Don’t test the police, most of the time you can get away with it. She could have been shot in the car. That video would not have helped at all.
Yes it sucks to take crap from the police, but remember, they take a lot every day.
RoscoePColtrane
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:58am130 lbs, are you kidding me? She goes a buck75 in my book. She was at a Del Taco at 11:15 in the morning. Do you think with a lifestyle like that a 130 frame is sustainable? Zoomba anyone? I mean look at the size of her melon. She‘ll get a 6 figure settlement and buy her own Del Taco with an upstairs apartment where she doesn’t have to drive to eat.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:58amIsn’t this left wing fascmism just so american and wonderful. Who needs freedom when we have all these lovely leftist nazi foot soldiers to save us from our personal choices right or wrong and liberty to chose them.
Report Post »Hugh Williams
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:59amWALKABOUT
The police in this country do a very dangerous and mostly thankless job. And I personally think the vast majority of men and women in our police forces are good decent people trying to keep us all safe and make our country a better place for everyone. But in this case how do you justify body slamming a woman whose hands are cuffed behind her back? The first body slam she was not cuffed and it appeared she was resisting. People can argue whether the amount of forced used was necessary or not (I personally believe it was excessive). The second time she was body slammed she was cuffed. Are the police involved so poorly trained that they cannot handle a woman with her hands cuffed behind her back without using that amount of force? Do you think she was about to snap the handcuffs like the Hulk and over power the two male police officers?
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:19amHugh
Ranger Pee will have to agree with your above statement.
There was no cause for the second slam. It is hard to see on the first one if she resisted arrest, or he was just being overzealous.
While I believe the cops on this one should be prosecuted if indeed it was police brutality, I still have no sympathy for idiots that refuse to get back in their vehicle or do what the police tell them to do (as long as it is lawful).
We have to many idiots that are raised in the trophy generation, that think everything is going to be their way.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:22amH. Williams,
Report Post »While I have no doubt that the majority of police do dangerous that they think is part of serving the nation and America. The British troops did and thought the same thing when they patroled OUR TOWNS AND CITIES before the great war for freedom. Fact of the matter is the Police pulled this woman over for a victimless crime (a non-crime by any measure) because so liberal douche thought that by taking a freedom we might make someone safer…..This their attempt at preventing a car accident before it happens. And criminalizing someone for what might happen as well. Look I understand perfectly the danger and fact is if they wanted to create a law that added time or fines to sentence if someone caused accident while using and pohone and driving I’m fine with that but this pre-crime crap is not American it’;s communist
hayesstephen
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:26amTypical Liberal Trash response. Hey idiot we are still a Nation of Laws. These men have the right to have a trial. What they did was so stupid as to be almost unbelievable. Now if NoBama2013 retains the Office this kind of thing will be common place, an every day event. All these Blue thugs did was jump the gun. Our Liberties that we hold so dear are about to be thrown on the junk heap of history. Thanks Liberal Trash. Man those two meat heads need to be doing something else besides carrying guns and having the authority of law. Get out and vote. I want the greatest turn out in the history of our Republic.
Report Post »RANGER1965
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:26amStress
Long Hours
Thankless Job
Dangerous Work
etc…
They can bring all this up at their trial in the hopes of getting a reduced sentence. But to trial they need to go.
When sheep dogs become the wolves they need to be put down with extreme prejudice. Anything less is a betrayal of public trust, which is a precious commodity. Once lost it takes generations to come back.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:28amCommonSenseTalk
“Yes it sucks to take crap from the police, but remember, they take a lot every day.”
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Good comment
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“but remember, they take a lot every day”
I don’t think the public realizes this. I don;t think many care. They will say it comes with the territory. With career criminals, Okay I could see where many would be that way. but from joe public?
Maybe police should have a work slow down & see how hoity-toity Joe Public likes it. Maybe politeness will be seen as a public good then.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:32amRANGER1965
Well stated
Report Post »Toltepeceno
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:37amRoscoePColtrane Wow, attack the person it happened to. If it were your boyfriend you would be sniveling all over the place. If she was black you would be going Al Sharpton.
Attacking the victim over her weight is childish and makes you a scunbag.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:05pmjohnjamison
Fact of the matter is the Police pulled this woman over for a victimless crime (a non-crime by any measure)
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By any measure. So if actuaries compared the driving record of people who never used cellphones while driving with those that did they would find no statistical difference in accident rates or accident severity.
So when there is a accident lawyers do not get the cell phone records of the other side in attempt to prove they were on a a cell phone during the accident & distracted driving cause the accident. Police reconstructing accidents do not obtain cell phone records, they just measure skid marks.
Newspapers do not ever print stories of people involved in accidents in one or multiple car crashes cause by them texting or on the cell phone.
Talking in a cellphone is never distracted driving. Maybe we should give awards for multi-tasking! :)
State legislatures in many states not just liberal California consider cell phone usage while driving is dangerous. They do not consider this totally victimless.
It will be a moot point to talk on a cell phone while in a car if & only if cars become self guided (in a bout 20 years). That is if environMENTALists allow us to have cars!
Report Post »rjlynn62
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:07pmSince you have so much law enforcement experience and this security camera footage is so very clear. I must say bravo on your most insightful and well thought out comments.
Not all Police officers are angels, nor do we all make the best choices. The fact is we get spit on, yelled at, kicked, punched and generally treated poorly by the people we are supposed to protect. She fought the officers at the out set she screamed and refused to obey the officers commands. Where is the outrage at her? Where is the condemnation of her actions?
One other thing, just because she is small means nothing. The little ones sometimes fight the hardest. I guarantee this is not her first run in with officers either.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:14pmToltepeceno
Attacking the victim over her weight
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When she 1st stepped out of the car she was a threat. They had not patted her down. She could have been packing something. You would’t know with 100% certainty.
Unless a 100 pound person with gun is less of a threat than a 200 pound person with a gun.
Actually, I would bet a physically weaker person is more likely to use a gun.That is all they got.
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You make a 1,000 stops. See if you heart doesn’t race.
Check your own police department. Do they offer counseling or periodic checks on an officer state of mind? Or is this something that was cut or never considered?
Does the mayor ever come out proactively & say how these thing should go down on both sides or is it reactive, we have a citizen’s commissions blah, blah, blah.
Last time a story like this came out, I talked to my kids. So they don’t get irate, spout off & get thrown down. It is an interaction. Both parties have some control. This woman used her control to make things worse.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:24pmrjlynn62
I guarantee this is not her first run in with officers either.
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That is a very interesting comment. If I were the lawyer for the officer with 22 years on the force, I would be finding that out. It would means the difference between being fired 7 a pension. There would still be discipline.
Officers need personal cams. It would make resiting arrest charges stick more often!
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:27pmrjlynn62
Good comments. This quality of the clip is not real good.
Once again, not condoning police violence, I am a little surprised at how many Blaze folks that post, never seem to see any blame on these knuckle heads that ignore police (lawful) instructions.
If you are going to drive a car, you do so, agreeing to follow the laws. These laws include speed restriction, not driving under the influence, following traffic signs… This is done for the safety of the rest of us on the road.
Most people that drive as adults, will at some point in their life get pulled over for some infraction. 99.9% of us, get our ticket, or our warning, and go on to drive another day. I do not understand this small percent that think they are special, and can get out of their car, cuss out the police, talk on their phones. This small percentage then want to turn around, and soak the tax payer for a big law suit, because they threw their little hissy fit, and got slammed on their head.
If you disagree with the ticket, we have a system to be heard. You show up in court, and plead your case, and often times get a lesser fine, or no fine. It is a fair system.
Cops have you stay in the car for your safety and theirs. What is up with the trophy generation of the “me first crowd” that thinks they can get out and run the show.
I guess when mommy and daddy never took a paddle and wore that butt out, we end up with a population of morons that think they always get their way
Report Post »KeystoneState
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:33pm“Police take crap every day”. Blah blah blah, no one is forced to be a cop in this country, and yes most are decent, but a good portion are immature dirtbags as well. This lady obviously felt harassed over a “cell phone” for crying out loud (as she had every right to be), and these man-children took it as a green light to “take em down”, blech, disgusting behavior on the police, they should be charged with assault and locked up. How is this protecting or serving?
Report Post »TAXEVERYONE
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:37pmWalkabout, you sure like to hear yourself talk, we don’t.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:40pmThe few times I’ve been pulled over, I put my hands on the steering wheel, and wait for instructions. If then want me out of the car, they’ll tell me. I don’t make a move to my purse or glove box for ID or proof of insurance, I don’t move until they tell me. They don’t know me. I might be armed, driving a stolen vehicle, running from the police, they don’t know. By not following instructions, or even asking them to be repeated, it puts doubts in their minds. I’m not gonna risk it..
Report Post »westtitus
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:40pmDid she have her child in her car? I think this is accesive force and they should be prosecuted but what is wrong with people cursing like this in front of children? Is this how most people really talk? It really shows her ignorance and if this is the way most people talk then they really need to take an enligsh course so they can come up with better ways of communicating. Her mouth is sickening and if anyone talks like this it shows your true ignorance. Prosecute the police and send her to an anger managemnt class that also teaches some english skills plus parenting skills. And then her child grows up cursing and she wonders where did they learn this language??? Couldn’t be from the mother, she is an angel….
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:44pmTAXEVERYONE
Report Post »I piled on to someone who screamed the police are horrible or cellphone usage while driving is harmless. I have no problems. I found stats, I asked people to consider this or that. Later I piled on. I feel pretty good. No worries :)
Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:49pmKeyStoneState
Ya, what you said. Or maybe not.
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More than 3 million people get injured due to car accidents, with more than 2 million of these injuries being permanent.
http://www.lawcore.com/car-accident/statistics.html
28 percent of accidents involve talking, texting on cellphones
Report Post »http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/12/AR2010011202218.html
AJAYW
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 1:07pmWalkabout
Report Post »OSHA Commonly Used Statisticswww.osha.gov/oshstats/commonstats.htmlCached
FY 2011 Total 18(b) State Plan inspections: 52,056 … 4,690 workers were killed on the job in 2010 [BLS revised 2010 workplace fatality data*] (3.6 per 100,000 …
Apr 9, 2012 – According to the FBI, 72 officers were killed by suspects in 2011,
Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 1:08pmHugh Williams
Report Post »I do not know where my reply to you went. Under THX thread I said the 1st slam was justified but the 2nd was not. I also said the women needs to be prosecuted whether or not she wins a judgement.
Nathaniel Horn
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 1:09pmSteroids and repressed anger. Some people just should not be cops.
Report Post »Havok
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 1:21pmWalkabout, you said:
“Maybe police should have a work slow down & see how hoity-toity Joe Public likes it. Maybe politeness will be seen as a public good then.”
The police don’t prevent crime no matter how much they write “crime prevention” on their cruisers.
Report Post »If theses guys really want to go into crime prevention then maybe they should prioritize the crimes… Talking on a cell while driving is nothing like a home invasion, child molesting and gang bang drive-by’s.
RANGER1965 is right when he says:
“When sheep dogs become the wolves they need to be put down with extreme prejudice. Anything less is a betrayal of public trust, which is a precious commodity. Once lost it takes generations to come back.”
In my current job I am entrusted with all sorts of confidential data. If I abuse that I would be tried. The smae with these officers. We entrust them with certain powers. Abuse of it should result in criminal trials.
grimmster
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 1:22pm@polwatcher aka encinom.
Report Post »“Beating”, really,obviously you dont have a clue what a beating is, but if you would like, i can show you.This dimwit most likely got what she deserved, for those critical of the second takedown,the video is not clear enough and has not sound, so makes it hard to judge the reasoning, if any for the second takedown.For all you armchair lawyers, take a ride with a cop on time,and if you dont piss your pants on the first traffic stop, then come back here and be critical of these cops actions…..
FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 1:33pmHey WalkAbout
Lol you for forgot to mention that about 2/3 of cops fatalities are due to traffic accidents and accidental discharge. So the cops should be more worried about killing themselves. Btw everyone the reason walkabout is using percentages is because less than 75 officers die a year while there’s millions of them.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 1:43pmOf the top 10 most Dangerous jobs – killed on the job per 100,000 in the usa 2010=
Report Post »# 1 fisherman 116, #2 Loggers 92, #3 Airplane pilots 71, #4 Farmer/Ranchers 41, #5 Mining machine operators 39, #6 Roofers 32, #7 Sanitation workers 30, #8 Truck drivers and Deliverymen 22, #9 Industry machine repairmen , # 10 Police Officeres 18
P8riot
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 1:48pmSorry Paulestinians, but the POLICE OFFICERS ARE THE GOOD GUYS!!!
Of course, there will always be ‘bad apples’ in ANY organization.
I challenge you guys to name ONE SINGLE LARGE ORGANIZATION THAT DOES NOT HAVE ANY BAD APPLES – I venture to guess even the libertarian party has one or two bad apples – does that make them a bunch of thugs?
Report Post »armyofnibiru
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 1:54pmokay ,okay ,she was pulled over for talking on a cell phone which is illegal for her to do ,by a police officer who was legaly talking to his girlfriend on a cell about following a women on a cell phone.maybe she was talking to the hospitol that she would be there at highnoon.why didn’t they pull her over immeditly instead of stalking her?is asking the police why your being pulled over a crime now?punishable by a beatdown on the way to the station.until your arrested the police can only make suggestions,they can’t order you around like their the kings personal knights.george washington was asked by a women,what form of govt have you givin us thats any different than any other?his response,we’ve givin you a nation of laws not men where I as potus will be held as accountible for a crime as the blacksmith at the end of the street.WOW.look where we are now,congress exempts itself from laws,the presidents ignore the laws pointed at them.and no one holds them accountible.police get away with this stuff unless there’s a camera.we stopped being a land of laws along time ago.if we where not a land of men,joe arpaio would not be the only law enforcement in the country challengeing potus.not all cops are bad,agreed.but this is becomeing routine.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 1:57pmHey walkabout
Report Post »Stasticly speaking most accidents happen with a mile of where people live.
Maybe they pass a law requiring people park more than a mile awy from where they live as to make them safer.
Bottom line is the lady committed no crime just because a city consel passes something it hardly makes it constitutionally grounded. THAT WHAT JURY NULIFACATION IS ABOUT.
Fact is the laws that was broken where broken were broken by the police for
1 arresting someone for a none crime
2 violation of the first amendment
3 violation of the 4 amendment
4 breaking their oath to protect and service the Constitution
5 ASSAULT
6 FALSE IMPRISONMENT
and most importantly dereliction of duty in serving the public trust
Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:10pmAJAYW
OSHA Commonly Used Statisticswww.osha.gov/oshstats/commonstats.htmlCached
FY 2011 Total 18(b) State Plan inspections: 52,056 … 4,690 workers were killed on the job in 2010 [BLS revised 2010 workplace fatality data*] (3.6 per 100,000 …
Apr 9, 2012 – According to the FBI, 72 officers were killed by suspects in 2011
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173 officers killed 2011
1,021,456 total in 2009
0.000169366 or about 16.9 per 100,000
http://www.gazette.com/articles/officers-130835-police-killed.html#ixzz252aCExVv
http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/data/table_74.html
I know I am mixing years, but I don’t care. Most of these other posters are foaming at the mouth over police brutality. I wouldn’t want these people to judge police officer or soldiers. The stress level is different, PTSD is real & I doubt they have taken a psychology course much less know how to spell it.
Look like officer are 4 times more at risk in general. If any cause of death ticks up we go to red alert. Traffic deaths, cancer deaths AIDS deaths it doesn’t matter. Not so wit officers. That is the psychological world they inhabit
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:13pmNathaniel Horn
Steroids and repressed anger. Some people just should not be cops.
Report Post »***
You seen the some total of all his contacts with public. You are a psychiatrist. You seen his officer evaluations & his psych profile going back 2 decades. Of course you. You are all that & you have a bag of chips.
Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:13pmSo why didn’t the second cop arrest the first cop?
God forbid right?
It’s only us serfs that are subject to rules and regulations. A cop would never betray the brotherhood to arrest a cop who committed a crime right in front of him. Heck no.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:18pmjohnjamison
Stasticly speaking most accidents happen with a mile of where people live.
Maybe they pass a law requiring people park more than a mile awy from where they live as to make them safe
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Usually when you work a problem you do a pareto analysis. You like to knock out the big ones. Some times you work the smaller ones to get the low hanging fruit 7 make progress.
Are you saying unless & until we knock out the number one cause or stat that we ignore all the other causes?
So lets not go after drunk driving lets just go after accidents that happen with in a mile of home 1st.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:23pmFREEDOMoverFEAR
Report Post »How many officer were killed in high speed chases? You need to drill down a little bit more. Would you be happy if we just let suspects go? Out of site, torch vehicle, no fingerprints or no DNA. Rinse repeat
Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:26pmFREEDOMoverFEAR
Report Post »Accidental discharge are bad of course. But I think being attacked from someone they stop is more on their minds.
It is like when you hear a family killed. You wonder are there psychotic killers about. when you learn that it was a family member, you relax some & move on.
Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:32pmjohnjamison
JURY NULIFACATION IS ABOUT.
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If I were a juror of a civil trial like the one this woman & officer will be at, I would go about nullifying her ability to sue by convincing other jurors she is wrong.
2 can play at that game. Happy now?
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:38pmWalkabout,
Report Post »the point is where does the non-crime laws stop. And Yes Drunk driving laws are BS as well. A cop sees someone swurving and driving poorly pulls him over finds he drunk (actually) by all means arrest for Drunk in public then let his insurance punish him.
A cop pulls someone over blown taillight and smells alcohol he require he do a field breath test and send the result to the insurance company.
A cop ata license check point smell alcohol on a person he should do the same.
If cop pull over someone for a blown taillight he smell alcohol and fines the person has no insurance imbound the car and make the person get insurance to get it out. And of course let the insurance company know the breate results.
And in all case cell phone or alcohol should tack on time and fines if they are found to be factors in the accident.
These nazist tactic are costing the tax payers a fortune and destroying liberty……..It‘s not the government job nor should it have the power to regulate activities so long as they don’t create victims.
Toltepeceno
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:45pmWalkabout What does any of that drivel have to do with roscoepcoletrain attacking her over her weight?????
Report Post »Maji
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:45pmSo has anyone actually see inside a cop car???
Laptops with 16″ screens, Satellite uplinks that can veiw other cars situations intransit,
Car radios, Not to mention CELL phones that they use!!!
Don‘t tell me they’re trained to use these under stress and you’re not!
Just some hot headed cops trying to get a feel.
If they can’t handle smart mouth people get another job!!
The womans hands were exposed…sundress! no where to hide anything!!
As far as complying,I think using a womans to bodysurf pavement “is non-compliance too!
I say give them a “good beating” and let them decide if they want to keep their jobs.
Report Post »izukiddin
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:50pmThat chick hasn’t weighed 130 lbs. since she was 12.
Report Post »Nathaniel Horn
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:56pmWalkabout:
You seem to have an emotional problem with the truth. I know cops. My brother-in-law is a cop. I’m telling you that some of them absolutely should not be cops just like not everyone is able to serve on a submarine or have what it takes to be a pilot. Did someone put jock itch in your pants this morning? :) Or maybe you’re just a troll?
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:57pmIf I were a juror of a civil trial like the one this woman & officer will be at, I would go about nullifying her ability to sue by convincing other jurors she is wrong
You could try but it take 12 to convict in criminal court that where one matters.
Report Post »It only take a majority to award in civil court that 7 in case you didn’t know.
And as far as your plan of swaying the other jurist you forgot one key thing …….you’re idiot
how you like me now socialist boy
Toltepeceno
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:09pmjohnjamison I’m as conservative as they get but I think anyone that supports the cops for that second body slam while she is handcuffed is a moron. Take her to court for whatever she did wrong, she is an idiot, but only an out of control bully would body slam like that after handcuffed. Coward also.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:20pmToltepeceno
Walkabout What does any of that drivel have to do with roscoepcoletrain attacking her over her weight?????
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I didn’t make fun of her weight I said that just because she weighs less, you can’t assume she is not a threat.
Toltepeceno
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:30pmWalkabout
1. I never said it did, I replied to the moron attacking her for her weight. You replied to me.
2. We are talking about them body slamming her after she was handcuffed, not being safe on the initial stop. Any cop that has to body slam like that when the person is handcuffed should not be a cop, period. This IN NO WAS was about initial safety on a stop.
Report Post »Toltepeceno
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:49pmWalkabout I also do not understand what posting fataties during traffic stops have to do with this case of body slamming this person handcuffed.
I’m all for cops being safe on initial stops, body slamming people handcuffed I am not. It’s apples vs oranges.
Ever been stopped by a cop in so cal? They are far more than cautious, they are downright bullies. It’s not the same everywhere, I actually like the cops in arkansas.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:51pmjohnjamison
Report Post »In a civil case I know it is a simple majority. It doesn‘t mean that it can’t be done. It just is harder.
Toltepeceno
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:56pmThey celebrated afterwards, so much for defending the other cop.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/brutal-lapd-arrest-caught-video-department-investigating-cops-bodyslamming-nurse-cell-phone-traffic-stop-article-1.1146962
Report Post »tiredofbeingtired
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 4:20pmI bet she keeps her mouth shut next time LOL
Report Post »TheBlazeReader
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 5:05pmFinally, cops going back to the classic ways! You run from the cops, you get shot. You resist the cops, you get the crap knocked out of you! Don’t text while driving. If you think of all the people she could have killed from her stupidity. She deserved it!
Report Post »sillyfreshness
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 5:16pmMost of these idiots on here defending police brutality don‘t realize it’s this woman this week, but could be them next week getting the beat down. Short sighted fools.
Report Post »BlessedONE333
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 5:31pmWalkabout I bet you make excuses for child predators too! – they have their own anxiety! idiot
POLICE HAVE THE POWER – THAT MEANS THEY HAVE THE POWER OVER OTHERS – THEY DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO ACT LIKE A JACKASS OR ABUSE THAT POWER
I don’t care how many traffic stops kill cops – that is not a justification to abuse a person already handcuffed. YOU are a major moron and need to shut your pie hole
Report Post »Wildape
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 5:40pmThank God someone was there to film it. It would be this poor woman’s word a gainst the police. She would not win.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 5:58pmBoo Hoo
Why is it that the cop, who are trying to do their jobs are the ones that have to put up with people’s **** and never make a mistake or lose their temper?
This woman has no sympathy from me, she ruined that guys career and put him out of a job so she could be arrogant and rude.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 6:19pmAnd the comment, “…The first part, I believe they had a right to arrest her for resisting, but the second part was overboard,” he explained….” is totally preposterous as an eye witness report: purely conjecture and imagined, giving implied consent to arrest for talking on a cell phone just because it’s against the law.
Report Post »Totally amazing to me how many people are so willing to surrender their rights.
Wolf
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 6:29pmRangerP has it here: “…Stress
Report Post »Long Hours
Thankless Job
Dangerous Work
etc…
They can bring all this up at their trial in the hopes of getting a reduced sentence. But to trial they need to go…”
If the job’s too much and they suffer from the problems, then they can find another line of work where they don‘t have to bully people for totally innocuous ’crimes’.
Hugh Williams
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 6:34pmRANGERP WALKABOUT and anyone else that would like to answer I would like to ask you a question. I don’t understand how people’s minds work sometimes. The progressives/liberals want more and more government control and inclusion in everyday life, but they usually condemn any police action as being police brutality. Here at the Blaze a lot of people that I agree with on a lot of issues involving smaller less intrusive government and following the Constitution seem to support anything the police do. I praise the police when they do a great job; which is most of the time. I also criticize the police when they overstep and cross the line. I see no way to defend the second slam to the ground with the woman’s hands cuffed behind her back, but a lot of people find it justified because she used bad language and did not fully cooperate. How is the left any different than the right if both sides just dig in and defend anything their side does? We must learn to return to a justice system where everyone is held to the same rules. I may be just too idealistic; I used to believe my side was morally superior to the left, now I don’t know. To many people now days trivialize things like this. Comments like she was fat, she voted for Obama, she has a fowl mouth therefore she brought this on herself, she deserved it. I taught my kids when they were young and now my grandkids if they needed help and I wasn’t there find a police officer and they would help them. I don’t think it aski
Report Post »Uranium Wedge
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 6:38pm@ WALABOUT
Report Post »I’m gonna let you in on a little secret…. NO BODY CARES YOU DID A FAKE WALKABOUT!
inblack
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 6:40pmSince I ride a bicycle and a motorcycle I have no problem eliminating laws against people talking on the cell phone as long as they get the death penalty when they kill someone.
Report Post »Wool-Free Vision
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 6:55pmI’m curious about the headline. Why is ‘Defenseless Woman’ in quotes? Is the implication that she was something other than female or that she could have busted out of those cuffs and used Kung Fu to take out two armed cops that were twice her size? Inquiring minds want to know.
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 6:57pmHmm… I’ll throw my hat in the ring on this. BOTH sides need to remember the golden rule (within reason). When the cops come a callin, “Yes, sir“ or”No, sir” will suffice. Stay calm and such encounters can be swift and painless. Run, put on a show or spout off… you wanna work that shovel and dig your own hole, have it. I enjoy watching some idiots make a bad situation worse. Can you expect professionalism, restraint and poise from all cops? Uh, no… gamble as you will.
Report Post »Think of if this way: If a couple of U.S. soldiers acted like this in the Middle Easten theater, what would likely come of them? Oh, yeah. Those hypothetical soldiers would be toast. And the civilian would be a poster child for unwarranted ham-fistedness (and, as we’re often reminded, recruiting for the ‘bad’ guys). So U.S. citizens are less valuable, or domestic govt. agents have relatively no bounds? No different rules for different people. Bye-bye, tough guys. This incident should not be used as a wacky defense for cops to be painted as poor, frazzled victims. The cops crossed the proverbial line; BOTH sides own their behavior, but the boys in blue are supposed to be trained professionals. This isn’t the ECW or UFC tryouts.
And stop driving when using your damn cell phone. That may just merit one body slam.
v15
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 8:39pmCops suffer from an inferiority complex, they aren’t educated, and they get off on bullying people. The cop brain never considers analytical thinking, logical reasoning, or even a rational thought for that matter. People who can’t think for themselves generally become cops. They signed up as cops just so they could beat up and shoot people. They love using their guns to kill people. You cannot reason with or question a cop. Remember, they have an inferiority complex so there is no place for a civil conversation – they must shout and talk down to you to make you feel inferior. Do not attempt to have a civil conversation with them – it raises contempt in the cop heart. Some citizens just shut up and take it, the ones that ask questions are body slammed, tasered, and shot (in that order). The cop brain has no “on/off” switch so their aggressive behavior leads to domestic violence at home. Just because you‘re a family member doesn’t mean you’re safe – Remember, a cop trusts no one and suspects everyone is always breaking the law. Wives and girlfriends are brutally beaten at home. The cop brain knows no equal and will not tolerate any questioning or criticism. Citizens caught in the line of fire between actual criminals and cops will get shot by the cops – especially if the cop hasn’t shot anyone in the past 12 hrs, that’s when withdrawals set in.
Report Post »sacwoodpusher
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 1:31amLook, cops in LA are paid on the order of 80 to 100K per year to put up with crap. Many are just drunk with power. They get off being nasty and in charge. Look at who in your class became a cop, and then tell me what you think of the profession!
Report Post »whitealaskan907
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 3:07am@V15
Report Post »V15 suffers from an inferiority complex he tries to cover up by insulting others with blanket uneducated prejudiced statements, he may be educated on paper but that doesn’t make him smart, and he gets off on trolling people. V15’s brain thinks it’s an expert in analytical thinking, logical reasoning, and even rational thought, though he just makes himself look like he’s compensating while he does it. People who can’t think for themselves generally sound a lot like V15. They sign up to websites just so they can troll and bully people without having to do it to their face. They love using their words to insult people, without rational thought or consideration for logic. You cannot reason with or question V15. Remember, he actually thinks he’s right, just like a lot of liberals do, so there is no place for a civil conversation – he must type and talk down about others to try to make them feel inferior. Do not attempt to have a civil conversation with him – it raises contempt in the V15 heart. Some citizens just shut up and take it, the ones that ask questions are pushed to the side with swollen ego, mocked, and banned from further conversations (in that order). The V15 brain has no “on/off” switch so its aggressive behavior leads to ridiculous arguments that make no logical sense and very little truth. Remember, a v15 brain deals in absolutes and extremes, and fails to see how some of his extreme ideas if put into action would screw him as well as the r
whitealaskan907
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 3:07am…As much as he may deny it and fight the concept, if V15 was attacked unawares, or if his house caught on fire he would call 911 as fast as the rest of us and expect to be saved and served by the very system he denounces. The V15 brain knows no equal and will not tolerate any questioning or criticism. Citizens caught in the line of fire between actual logical thinking people and ignorant ones, all of them will get trolled by V15 – especially if the V15 hasn’t trolled anyone in the past 12 hrs, that’s when withdrawals set in.
Report Post »I_KNEW_Youd_Say_That
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 6:11amI KNEW You’d Say That!
So, are you happy with your standing army? The Founders warned you about them, didn’t they …
Report Post »v15
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 6:39amWHITEALASKAN… lol thanks for the laugh. That was a nice touch!
Report Post »free_indeed
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:29amI agree ,they should be atleast be fired. There is absolutely no reason for this. I don’t care if their job is stressful, if they can no longer exercise good judgement because of it they are dangerous. She was on her cell phone for crying out loud! Not exactly criminal behavior!
Report Post »truthservices
Posted on August 31, 2012 at 8:35amI think the more insane laws we get policemen to enforce the more hated they are gonna feel and be. Cops are lonely people some of their only friends are other cops. This woman never even should have been pulled over for such a STUPID reason. OMG She was probably like, Are you serious? You followed me cause I’m on my phone? Never right to throw women to the ground. cowards. Stop letting people create laws that make our CIVIL SERVANTS tax collectors. They don’t want to be paid bullies….
Report Post »milez5
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 1:38amthis was beyond the pale. We should support the police when we can, but there is just no excuse for this especially the second throw down.
Report Post »scguy2473
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 10:46amWALKABOUT…STOP defending these two criminals…They slammed a prisoner in cuffs to the ground! Uncalled for and illegal! She will become very rich very soon and these two will be in prison very soon…Look up the story about an officer here in SC who beat a prisoner in cuffs with his baton…he’s in prison now too and so will these two LAPD officers…It was uncalled for and not protocol…This coming from an officer with 7 years experience!!!!!
Report Post »JAMACAMECRAZYMAN
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:49amGood ole Tujunga……………
Report Post »midwesthippie
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:54pm…the police are not our “protectors”, they are our “servants”, they are a fraternity, they are a UNION. they have a tough job to do , no doubt, but if they can’t arrest and deter the “occupy” violence and the flash mob violence because the UNION bosses tell them to back off then they should not be excused from beating the crap out of woman for driving with a cell phone. take her license plate # and send her a ticket in the mail…escalating to the point of brutality is not necessary…
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:44amThis one is pretty clear cut (for once).
The first take down looks legit, the second one is utterly unnecessary.
She might have been an uncooperative, rude idiot but once she‘s cuffed there just isn’t any justification for this, especially noting her size and sex.
Fire him, charge him with Assault and sue him (and they’ll win).
Then get this this idiot some serious psych help before he kills someone.
Report Post »zorro
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:52amHow is the first take down “legit”? Force may have been needed but this was excessive. Do you seriously not see that?
Report Post »bjjmadmonkey
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:07amFirst one legit? I suppose when you come home from a hard days work you like to take the day out on the Mrs.? This was completely uncalled for…These 2 dicks had other means at their disposal and BAR ARM WITH A FORWARD TRIP FOR 2 PTS. FOR THE TAKEDOWN WAS NOT ONE OF THEM!
Report Post »yubba
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:12amYep LEE git, that’s what you get for using a cell phone, that treat doesn’t fit the crime thugs and cowards.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:18amWhen a police officer tells you to do something you do it. Period.
If you don’t like the treatment you take it up with the Judge. Period.
As far as he knew at the time she could have been a violent/armed/wanted felon. Had she simply STFU and followed LAWFUL ORDERS from a police officer she’d have gotten a ticket and gone home. Period.
So, it’s ok for a cop to get killed unnecessarily in your book?
Don’t be stupid.
I’m Buddhist. I don’t believe in violence OR being a rude moron toward a cop. She deserved the first take down, she was begging for it. After the cuffs were on and the cop’s life was no longer at risk the rules changed. He clearly was wrong on the second one and, I hope, he pays the price. But that price won’t be death.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:22amzorro & bjjmadmonkey
We need audio; police need to have personal cams That way they can prove their assertion that the person disobeyed orders such as stay in the car. If you judge people’s ability to inflict harm merely by their size, it would be a mistake.
If people routinely get out of their cars during a traffic stop, do you think more or fewer officer will be killed?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:27am“Fire him, charge him with Assault and sue him (and they’ll win).’
Sounds good but charge her for resisting & using the cell phone. Sure she will richer but she will also have her deserved record.
The officer is not the only one with attitude.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:39am@Walkabout
Absolutely dead on. The technology we have now makes this easy and not terribly expensive. And if all parties know there’s no more wiggle room for lies (multiple cameras, audio, etc.) then maybe everyone will be more civilized.
I‘d even suggest this gear for civilians that don’t trust the police (hint, hint). Of course that means that you’ll have to be civilized too. Maybe that’s the problem….
Report Post »TheValley
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:42amTHX-1138, YOU are the one being stupid. It is about time cops learned to respect their employers, they DO NOT have the authority to do as they please or even question anyone without probable cause. The enforcement mentality taking hold in this country is directly attributable to the amount of criminals we now have in uniform. Those cops should be beaten to a pulp THEN imprisoned.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:52amTHX-1138
Report Post »The technology we have now makes this easy and not terribly expensive. And if all parties know there’s no more wiggle room for lies (multiple cameras, audio, etc.) then maybe everyone will be more civilized.
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Concisely said sir.
Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:56amQuestion is not only statistics, but relative death rate compared to other professions, perceptions, PTSD. You have an officer wrestling with a suspect & he goes for your gun and this happens once, twice, whatever & you here about it happening to other officer then the actions of irate, uncooperative, hostile people gives a person a different perspective.
U.S. police fatalities up 13 percent in 2011 to 173
December 28, 2011 1:18 AM
http://www.gazette.com/articles/officers-130835-police-killed.html#ixzz252aCExVv
FBI Releases Preliminary Statistics for Law Enforcement Officers Killed in 2010
Report Post »http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-preliminary-statistics-for-law-enforcement-officers-killed-in-2010
THX-1138
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:09am@TheValley
When you lose one of your best friends in the line of duty, a better man than either of us, an incredible husband and father, and my and my son’s martial arts instructor for 8 years, you get back to me. Until then, so far as I’m concerned, you can STFU. You don‘t or can’t get it.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:12amTheValley
“It is about time cops learned to respect their employers,”
So the Risk officer at an investment company should defer to their employer like the FABULOUS Corzine. YAY!
So public editor Arthur Brisbane should defer to the New York times managing editor & staff.
HOORAH!
” they DO NOT have the authority to do as they please or even question anyone without probable cause.”
The officer saw the cell phone illegally used. The law was passed by the duly elected state legislature. Cell phone records can be subpoenaed& it can be shown the phone was used during this time. An act that the state legislature has determined put public safety at risk. It can be show statistically ^& form accident investigations too. In short probably cause established!
The enforcement mentality taking hold in this country is directly attributable to the amount of criminals we now have in uniform.
“Department of Justice report issued in October that said an estimated 10,000 police officers and sheriff’s deputies have been laid off within the past year.”
http://www.gazette.com/articles/officers-130835-police-killed.html#ixzz252hQrPXH
Former New York Times Editor Says Newspaper ‘Bleeds’ a Progressive Worldview
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/former-new-york-times-editor-says-newspaper-bleeds-a-progressive-worldview/
You can look up the Corzine Risk officer fracas yourself. You don‘t take Corzine’s side do you?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:20amTheValley
Google” EMT’s, firefighters, Police Officers +PTSD
Cops dealing with PTSD face stigma, lack of resources
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57495737/cops-dealing-with-ptsd-face-stigma-lack-of-resources/
Home » News » Work and Career News » Interventions Help Police Officers Manage PTSD
Interventions Help Police Officers Manage PTSD
http://psychcentral.com/news/2011/11/24/interventions-help-police-officers-manage-ptsd/31859.html
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Body slamming a nurse is not a smooth move. Especially because you might be in the hospital where she works & her coworkers will hear the story.
People not to get irate with: Food service workers, policemen, health professionals.
Really anyone for that matter.
Nurse met reality. Her husband sounds more level headed & good guy. Chances are he would have just got a ticket if he had been talking on a cellphone
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:29amNone of it is legit the whole reason she was being pulled is some pre-crime commuinist bullcrap. Her talking on the phone creates no victim and never will. This is how freedom is taking and idiots like alot on this site applaude. They keep incroaching on more and more personal freedom in the name of safety till one day you’ll way up in a prison you allowed to be created for safety. Tell youy what if you ******** fill so unsafe STAY HOME BARRACADE YOUR DOORS AND LET US AMERICAN BE FREE
Report Post »Toltepeceno
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:43amTHX-1138 When you lose one of your best friends in the line of duty, a better man than either of us, an incredible husband and father, and my and my son’s martial arts instructor for 8 years, you get back to me. Until then, so far as I’m concerned, you can STFU. You don‘t or can’t get it.
Idiot comment. Comparing someone killed in the line of duty with this is moronic and would be like me (a disabled vietnam veteran) comparing those killed in battle with the fort hood shooter. Just plain ridiculous. If you cannot separate the two then YOU need to STFO.
Report Post »00100111
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:53amI’m always amazed by the badge lickers on this site. “Just do what the police say, period!” Wow, way to be a good little sheep, there, citizen! Remember you said this when they do it to you.
Report Post »TAXEVERYONE
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:34pmMost police officers are good people, however a few thugs and bullies make it into the system to get the jollies they can’t get in civilian life.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:39pm00100111
Go ahead call me a badge licker. What is your next ad hominem attack?
Do the math. If you don’t want to do the math, we can trade ad hominem attacks. I’m game!
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On an average, there are more than 6 million car accidents on the roads of the US, annually.
More than 3 million people get injured due to car accidents, with more than 2 million of these injuries being permanent.
http://www.lawcore.com/car-accident/statistics.html
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Report Post »28 percent of accidents involve talking, texting on cellphones
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/12/AR2010011202218.html
Falconer
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:48pmTHX practice what you preach and stop being such an idiot.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:03pmI had no idea there were so many fools on this site.
@Toltepeceno
So, someone the police have yet to identify refusing to obey lawful commands form an officer to remain in her car could not possibly be a threat to the officers life? Glad you’re not an cop; you’d last a week, tops. And probably get your partner killed.
@Falconer
Right back atcha.
@00100111
“Wow, way to be a good little sheep, there, citizen!”
So, your plan would be, what? Tell the cop to GFH when you didn’t like what he said?
Brilliant.
Cops make the arrests. JUDGES and Superior Officers disciplin the cops if they find a valid reason. If you have a better plan…
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:37pmjohnjamison
None of it is legit the whole reason she was being pulled is some pre-crime commuinist bullcrap.
Pre crime? You could say that. But a great majority of accident are caused by distracted driving. Go ahead repeal the law or try to.
First many (maybe not 50+% ) would not like the increased risk. Second when someone was on their hone & it was a fatality accident their life would be effectively over after the civil lawsuit is complete. That is much worse than a ticket.
Some people would rather resolve this thru criminal court & civil lawsuit after the fact other don‘t they elect legislatures to enact laws like this because their risk tolerance isn’t the same as yours big guy.
Report Post »Toltepeceno
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:42pmTHX-1138 it’s not hard to figure out you are a cop groupie pulling blow trains on them in a sleazy bar.
You contradicted yourself in the last sentence. This pig sentenced her in the last takedown, that’s not allowing the court to handle it.
Report Post »Toltepeceno
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:48pmTHX-1138 You are also a grade A moron. I made it through vietnam and if you think that was easier you are more of a moron than I think. I had more stress and abused NO civillians in the process. Ignoramus.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:51pmWalkabout, you posted
Report Post »Pre crime? You could say that. But a great majority of accident are caused by distracted driving. Go ahead repeal the law or try to.
What is the one common thread in every single vehicle accident on the highway,innerstates,by ways and even the dirt and gravel roads of America.
Every single one have a common thread if safety is the issue and not generating revenue why is that thread still allowed.
Toltepeceno
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:06pmTHX-1138 I‘m still waiting for you to explain to this vietnam veteran what it’s like to be under stress in a combat area. Maybe your experience popping pimples behind a keyboard will help, your exprerience as a bjtrain cop groupie do not. Not that body slamming has anything to do with being in a combat area or saving your partner’s life as you so ignorantly blather.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:16pm@Toltepeceno
Ad-homimem all you got? Whatever. I’m guessing you suffered a head injury if indeed you ever were in the military…
“You contradicted yourself in the last sentence. This pig sentenced her in the last takedown, that’s not allowing the court to handle it.”
Now, a quote from me:
“The first take down looks legit, the second one is utterly unnecessary. She might have been an uncooperative, rude idiot but once she‘s cuffed there just isn’t any justification for this, especially noting her size and sex.
Fire him, charge him with Assault and sue him (and they’ll win).
Then get this this idiot some serious psych help before he kills someone.”
Your use of the word “pig” says all I need to know about you and your irrational hatred of cops.
Done with you.
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:24pmHey WalkAbout what about this statistic that says cop fatalities have plummeted
http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/
Thats the national law enforcement memorial fund website. 36 percent decrease in fatalities for 2012 august 30th from august 30th 2011
The cops put their lives on the line that means they need to make sure they are in danger before they use deadly force. Yes I said deadly force because if a citizen slammed an officer like that they would be justified in shooting said civilian.
HEHEHE looks like you’ve been debunked buddy
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:33pm•The 1920s were the deadliest decade in law enforcement history, when a total of 2,318 officers died, or an average of almost 232 each year. The deadliest year in law enforcement history was 1930, when 290 officers were killed. That figure dropped dramatically in the 1990s, to an average of 161 per year.
In the thirties it was far more dangerous to be a cop but do you think this is how they treated citizens then. Crime has been dropping since the thirties and police tactics are becoming more brutal does that make sense.
http://www.nleomf.org/facts/enforcement/ (national law enforcement memorial fund website.)
Report Post »Toltepeceno
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:38pmTHX-1138 Great comeback from the 12 year old pimple popper. “You could not possibly be a vietnam veteran because you do not post what I want you to”. I was under fire in combat long before your mother thought of your accidental coming after her trist with the neighborhood stray dog.
Comprehension is not your strong suit. I said pig, not pigs, this guy is a pig period. My niece is married to one who is not. Some are, including the one on the video.
The only hatred (rational at that) is for moron’s, racists of any color (I am not white) and Iibtards. I think you have all 3 covered,
Report Post »Toltepeceno
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:45pmTHX-1138 Typical ******* moron. “If you do not agree with me you could not possibly be a vietnam veteran”. Sorry, I was under fire in a combat zone long before your mother pulled the train that created you.
Go back to school. I said pig, not pigs. Pig does not blanket all cops, pigs does. This is a pig, pure and simple. You are a clueless moron pure and simple.
I’m still waiting for your experience under fire (which this was not, it was body slamming a handcuffed person). Tell me what it’s like jr.
The only thing I want from you is keep paying your taxes so the va can keep up the payments for my wound received from shrapnel.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:48pm@FREEDOMoverFEAR
Let us assume a Memorial site did have correct numbers just for a second.
A 36% drop over the most recent 12 month period and you aren’t suspicious of the numbers? Never had a statistics class, eh?
Tell me what happens if that “trend” lasts three years. See the problem?
Debunked? I’m not convinced…
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:51pm@Toltepeceno
Bet you were the captain of your debate team.
Dismissed.
Report Post »Toltepeceno
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 4:01pmTHX-1138 Bet you will be the captian of your male prostitute team when you get old enough.
Dismissed with prejudice.
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 4:12pmThx the numbers are correct same as on FBI’s website. So because the number dropped 36% it‘s unbelievable but if it’s a 14% increase it is believable. The trend has shown over the past decade the numbers have held steady even as the amount of officers are increased or decreased. Do some research before you try an educate someone.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 6:10pm“So because the number dropped 36% it‘s unbelievable but if it’s a 14% increase it is believable.”
Careful there brother, I never said I bought either number. To be sure, I know enough about statistics to ignore anything less than a 5 or 10 year moving average. Long term trends are what matter (in my book anyway).
Just sayin’…
Report Post »PeteOH
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:39amWe have become a Police State. We have WAY too many laws. Talking on a cell phone while driving? This is stupid! Every state already has laws on the books prohibiting “distracted driving.” What about talking to a passenger while driving, eating some fries, putting on lipsick? To take two officers out of circulation to trail, cite and harrass drivers is a waste of money and resources. To be sure, ANYONE told to stay put by the police should stay put! The world we live in will have your ass kicked by the cops for not listening. It’s a fact of life in America that the cops can kick the crap out anyone for anything. Every Police Academy teaches restraint techniques that could have been employed in this case. Beating this woman so badly is not justified and these idiots should be held accountable. This is a great example of exessive force. This is not the type of crime I want our Police to be fighting!
How about every State and the Federal Government just take a year off? No new laws! In fact, they could just use the year to go back through all the laws on the books and repeal the dumb ones. In 2011, the Feds added 80,000 pages of NEW laws. We have more laws on the books than China! So, how about a year with NO new laws and a pledge to throw out the dumb ones!? Can I git an Amen!
Report Post »huey6367
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:53am“We have become a Police State. We have WAY too many laws. Talking on a cell phone while driving? This is stupid!”
That was California.
Enough said
Report Post »zorro
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:57amUh…AMEN!
Let‘s start with the one in Texas where I can’t buy beer on Sunday before noon. I have to miss the second half kick-off if I forget to buy my beer on Saturday. I’m out of church by 10:30m. I should be ablet to buy beer at that time.
Report Post »Tractorboy
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:30amThe USA is now a gaint re-education camp, under Obama and the progressives. With re-education camp lite, they tell you what to do, how to eat, what to drive, how you can have and practice your faith in public if your a christain, with re-education lite we can still move about freely, with the occasional pat down and strip search when you want to fly, other-wise it is all done without the mess of housing all the students, when we get to re-education heavy, well, some of you may just disappear for a while, or get a beat down for refusing to follow orders quickly enough..
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:36amhuey6367
“We have become a Police State. We have WAY too many laws. Talking on a cell phone while driving? This is stupid!”
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Many states will pass or have passed similar laws.
If the states passed no such laws it will become common usage & practice to refrain from using cell phones while driving. Insurance agents & lawyers will see to it. It will take longer, but it would happen.
After all there have been many Darwin awards given to people for single car crashed while texting which is similar.
Report Post »PeteOH
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:41amTo ZORRO’s point… We have to wait til after 1PM to buy a beer on Sunday in Ohio… AND these retailers need a “special” permit to sell beer and wine on Sundays.
Report Post »PeteOH
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:44amI agree with WALKABOUT… Dumb folks hitting a tree while texting is an issue. I agree with that law. The act of texting requires the driver to remove their eyes from the road. I NEVER need to divert my eyes to speak into a cell phone.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:34amWe’re living in the Millenium Of The Blind . People rapidly allowing government to swallow freedom and liberty for precieved safety.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 1:12pmjohnjamison
perceived safety?
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How about we talk about societies risk tolerance? Or how about we talk about an insurer being able to drop you forever after an accident (& no other insurer willing to pick you up) when you are suing a cell phone. Insurers should be able to drop you. Freedom of association; freedom to contract while not under duress & all that
More than 3 million people get injured due to car accidents, with more than 2 million of these injuries being permanent.
http://www.lawcore.com/car-accident/statistics.html
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Report Post »28 percent of accidents involve talking, texting on cellphones
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/12/AR2010011202218.html
johnjamison
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:10pmWALKABOUT
Report Post »You’re Welcome to trade your liberty for cheaper insurance…..People have sole their souls for less.
Do attempt to drag us with you into your socialist he77.
And again if you feel so unsafe you’re welcome to go home to your moms basement ,nail the doorshut,and pad the wall so you don’t hurt yourself.
This woman committed no crime and the law she broke is BS it’s pre-crime. The nazis wannabes that arrested her are the criminals enforcing laws that violate several Constitutional rights,as well the assault and false inprisonment her suffered.
basicly
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed
you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”
Sam Adams
No matter what some says today our founders alway had a better way of saying it
busterpuddles
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:39amAlarming…What’s also alarming? I also believe they will get away with a mere slap on the wrist.
Report Post »PeteOH
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:45amThey will get off with a slap because the woman is NOT a minorty.
Report Post »zorro
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:54amWrong Peteoh. Cops get away with this garbage every day regardless of whatever color the victim is. The difference is, only one race appears to take it upon themselves to destroy the city when it happens. Perhaps if the rest of us did, cops would think twice before taking down a citizen in that manner for something so very stupid.
Report Post »PeteOH
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:13amZORRO… I totally agree with you and sit by daily wondering when the locust will detroy a town a bit closer to me. My effort was to point out that the cops won’t have to deal with rioting whites claiming profiling or racism. Whites NEVER cry foul, never burn squad cars, throw rocks at cops, surround the police station etc. My point is that the cops will never deal with a public outcry for doing this thing to a white.
Report Post »VanceUppercut
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 1:20pm@busterpuddles
Report Post »Let’s be honest here, if this woman was black all you blazers would be wholeheartedly supporting the cops, someone would mention that she “must’ve been on crack”, and someone else would have made some comment like “who cares, she’s probably an Obama supporter”.
Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 1:59pmVanceUppercut
Let’s be honest here, if this woman was black all you blazers would be wholeheartedly supporting the cop
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I didn’t. THX didn’t RangerP & ranger1965 didn’t. I’ll go out on a limb & say RJGadsen doesn’t.
So you want to walk the word all back & replace it with most or will you retreat into plugging your ears & saying lalalalala …
But I never expect anything good or reasonable from you.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:49pmWALKABOUT, VANCEUPPERCUT aka Chrissy Matthews today. Just open mouth and the word racist just pours right out regardless the subject. WALKABOUT, thanks for adding me to your list. Just love it when people who know nothing of our backgrounds just wish that we were the people they suspect us to be. They have no idea that starting in the ’50s both of my parents had careers, who hired a woman to be a part time housekeeper. She helped watch us while doing some household chores, and supervised my two sisters and me to make sure we did our required chores around the house. She happened to have been black and stayed with us for years. When Dad was transferred we moved out of town for two years then returned, and she came back to our family. We grew up playing with her kids from near day one, and when we became teenagers she moved on to another family with smaller children who required such supervision. She attended my father‘s funeral in ’91, and was not physically able to attend my mother‘s funeral in ’96. But, she sent cards and called each of us. She has since passed away, but I know in my heart that I grew up with two mothers, one white, and one black.
Report Post »As far this story goes, it’s simple. Two wrongs do not make a right. She was wrong, and by what I can tell from the poor quality of the video, at least one of the cops is also wrong.
Hugh Williams
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 4:56pmWALKABOUT
Report Post »You wrongly assume much in your post.
kpntreal
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:37amYes this was over the top and the cops should be punished but she was resisting arrest and when you live in a world were women want to be men,
Report Post »(pushing to be combat soldiers and doing traditionally male jobs) the feminist have gotten their way and this is the result.
enjoy your equality all you fem nuts, you killed chivalry are you happy now?
Goldline_scam
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:56amAh, so FEMINISM and women’s rights are to blame for this? SERIOUSLY??
This is why I’m an avid reader of The Blaze … the comedy value is unparalleled…
Report Post »zorro
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:59amA liberal would call you crazy but in all seriousness, there is a lot of truth in your statement.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:15amResisting arrest is a bogus charge they throw in because she argued with them. There is no reason for them to get that physical with her. What a pathetic group of officers. I wish the blaze would show some stories of police not being pathetic tyrants to balance out these kinds of stories, but maybe there are no such clips. California needs to be ejected from the US.
Report Post »00100111
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:58amLion is correct. “Resisting Arrest” is a bogus charge. If you don’t say “HOW HIGH?!“ when they say ”JUMP!” immediately, they’ll beat you or shoot you and say you resisted. If you don’t genuflect to their “authoritah” immediately, they’ll make any excuse to kill you.
I’m told often there are many good cops out there. I haven’t seen them yet.
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:37pmKptnReal
Ya fair rights fair fights women! I’ll cold **** a broad. hehe ****.
Report Post »Inlandmar2
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:34amFrom day one at the Police Academy, we were taught to take verbal abuse from the drill instructors and others. It was explained to us that if you can’t take verbal abuse here in the academy, you have no business being a Police Officer on the street. Taking verbal abuse is a part of being a Police Officer. No one says you have to like it, but you have to be tolerant of it. Clearly, the Officers in this video must have been absent the day when taking verbal abuse training was taught.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:39amI don’t think he has much chance of retiring from the force. He might want to start packing up his stuff and looking for a job.
Report Post »LameLiberals
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:34amAnd SHEEPLE think these unionpolice thugs will protect them if the fed government decides to turn on the people. NOT!
If a policeman does not belong to oathkeepers he cannot be trusted -period
Report Post »http://Www.oathkeepers.org
BryanB
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:33amThere is something very very wrong with a Police Officers, that would do this to someone.
Both Police Officers need to be charged with Attempted Murder, they could have easily killed this women, by what they did…………
Report Post »SAMADI-SOUL-CRUSHER
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:28pmThis is true people die everyday from hitting their head on concrete! I can think of 2 case’s in the last
Report Post »ten years where 2 guys get in a fight and 1 punch and down goes one guy and hits head on street and is dead.
Both guys that did the hitting were convicted and went to prison!
Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:33amIf That had happened in a state that was not Commiefornia,I think a Law abiding citizen would have the right to use their second amendment and defend this woman with force.
Report Post »Thinman
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:31amI’ve never met an honest cop in my life. These are peace loving California liberals, not.
Report Post »scootervanneuter
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:32amPainting all cops as dishonest? It’s obvious who has the problem here -
Report Post »Sikki
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:31amIt is this kind of behavior, combined with the drug war that makes me hate cops. The woman was CUFFED! She may have been running her mouth at the poor piggies but to smash her face first into the ground? Her attorney is absolutely right, anyone else does that to a woman and they are charged with assault and battery and possibly sent to jail, but I think LEO should be held to a higher standard. TO SERVE AND PROTECT YOU PUKE PIGS! FIRE THEM NOW!
Report Post »zman173rd
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:31amThe police are TRAINED to intimidate. They must always have the upper hand from the moment of contact. NEVER try to be funny, sarcastic, or defensive. They WILL kick your a$$. The police are not your friends. When the time comes to draw a line between government bondage and freedom they will shoot you. Make no mistake, every excuse will be used to keep you in line with their, the goverments’, agenda. God help us because the police will not.
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:28amWhen Police Union Democrats Attack.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:33amI would bet what money I have in the bank that the woman they slammed is an Obama voter.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:45amrangerp
Report Post »So its ok to slam a cuffed person to the ground like that because they are a obama voter?
Rightallalong
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:06amRangerPeePee will be the first sniveling little coward to lick the cops boots and rat out all his neighbors for such egregious crimes as free speach or maybe watering their yards on the wrong day…. what a little weasel …
Report Post »1RealAmerican
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:15amRangerrp,
People with attitudes like your are EXACTLY the type of people that DON”T need to be cops! If you think that you have the right to cuff someone and then abuse them makes you as bad as these guys. Verbal abuse is part of what goes with the job and if you can‘t control yourself just because you think that someones political opinions don’t match yours then you have a real problem. She didn’t assalt the cop so therefore she should have been arrested and put in the back of the car period. And even if she had touched them a good cop would have used nessesary force, cuffed her, etc and. NOT slammed her on the ground twice. I am freinds with an ex deputy sheriff and these guys could learn a lesson from him – he never raised his voice or lost his temper on a traffic stop and it was always sir or mam no matter what and if force needed used it was alwas just what was nessisary – nothing more – and his veiws, opinions or if he was just having a bad day NEVER entered into the situation – Hell, this man got shot at and still kept his cool! My suggestion to you is get some help for your issues with your intolerance before it gets you in real trouble. Meet force with force – but only when warranted!
Just sayin…………
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:34amRightallalong
Go turn your sprinkler off before the feds check your IP address, and come get you.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 4:03pmSo, All of you junior Chrissy Matthews, and Lawrence O‘Donnell types have really made one heck of a stretch to convert RANGERP’s simple statement into those tales! Wow, those BSNBC lessons are really paying off in dividends for you, eh? LOL, the rest of us still will not fall for it, so go pound salt.
Report Post »Cashpipe
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:26amThe police have a tough enough job as is that they don’t need to deal with selfish pigs like her. She had an attitude before the arrest and now she is trying to play the innocent victim. She needs a pile driver for good measure.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:30amwhat we used to call an attitude adjustment. It is like milk, it does a liberal body good.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:40amYeah! Thank GOD these brave men were beating this woman for talking on a cell phone. Now, they COULD have been out taking down burglers, robbers, rapists, and other violent criminals, but these two model policemen beat up a woman who was talking on a cell phone.
Man, I can only hope my local police force is as brave and dilligent about serving and protecting my community as those men are.
Report Post »Sikki
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:44amranger, morons like you are the problem exactly, assuming a woman is somehow deserving of assault and battery? seriously?
Report Post »MetalPatriot
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:01pmLOL! That was great, Cashpipe.
I see b*****s like this all the time. Phone in one hand, trying to turn/park with the other. Having encountered this “type” of woman who runs her mouth, I could possibly sympathize with the officer who took her down. No officer has ever been discourteous to me, so she either provoked or the guy was too green. But, I sometimes see officers on their phones while driving as well.
I see drug deals going on all day long on a nearby heavily trafficked street that’s fairly well patroled. Why aren’t the more serious crimes/criminals focused on?
The REAL crime areas have officer relation/delegates sent through, yet arrests don’t occur. It‘s as if those areas are so far gone that they can’t be dealt with. I feel for our guys/gals in blue, albeit it’s our politicians fault for not funding and staffing properly. I couldn’t handle seeing the worst in man on a daily basis without going berserk.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:29pmJaycen
Yeah! Thank GOD these brave men were beating this woman for talking on a cell phone. Now, they COULD have been out taking down burglers, robbers, rapists, and other violent criminal
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Remember that when someone on a cellphone hit someone with their car.
Yeah! Thank GOD these brave men were arresting burglars, when they COULD have been out taking rapists and murders?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:33pmJaycen
Yeah! Thank GOD these brave men were beating this woman for talking on a cell phone. Now, they COULD have been out taking down burglers, robbers
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28 percent of accidents involve talking, texting on cellphones
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/12/AR2010011202218.html
Jaycen have you been dressed down enough?
Maybe I should cite the Bible or ad hominem attacks so you can continue morally superior.
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 4:20pmOne thing I’d like to point out is that the most of the people defending this are ex-military and ex-police so they’ve been indoctrinated by the Government. I‘d be willing to be they’ve also been trained in the last ten years.
Report Post »makingsense
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:23amThe bigest segment of the population that are criminals in the country are the criminals, the next biggest segment of criminals are the police. They lie, hid information, plant evidence, steal drugs, take bribes and then work together to protect each other. Many of them like to beat people up and that is why they went into the police FORCE in the first place. They like using FORCE.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:27ammay the FORCE be with them.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:21amMay they be put down like dogs in the street, violating the wrong person’s right.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:26pm@makingsense
I do love an Ironic moniker…
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:23amfunny how i see these incidents happening like 1 million x more than radical Islamists attack Americans. Even family guy made a joke about LAPD where peter gets pulled over and beaten by them. But i suppose you can get big money settlements if one of those thugs attacks you and its on camera.
Report Post »Hugh Williams
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:19amLast week The Blaze had a story and video of a police officer slamming a woman into her car. I was shocked that so many people defended the cop in this attack. I wonder if these same people will defend these cowardly bullies that threw a handcuffed woman onto the parking lot pavement. Too many Americans are becoming desensitized to the increasing violence and oppression directed at the American people by government agencies that are supposed to protect us.
Report Post »termyt
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:38amEach instance needs to be evaluated on its own merits, Hugh. Concern that the police are too violent does not mean every instance of police violence is intentional and unwarranted. To see the evidence is reason one instance was not brutality does not mean you blindly say all instances are not brutality.
How, exactly, do we move the dialog forward when you paint every instance with the same broad brush and say if everyone else does not use the same broad brush they are what? Hypocrites? Dishonest? Whatever you were implying there.
The video in this instance is practically worthless to make any kind of decision for yourself. It does not look like the woman was impaired or dangerous and it does look like the officer intentionally drover her into the ground. That seems unwarranted. However, the “news” report only showed the take down over and over again with out allowing it to be framed in any context. To me, it appears the cops were overly violent to the level of brutality, but until I can see the whole tape, not even an armchair QB like me should be making any wild assertions.
Report Post »Hugh Williams
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:52amTERMYT
Report Post »I agree with everything in your post. My comment was directed at the post RANGERP. At the time of this post I could not remember his name. He has already posted several comments to this story defending the police. In his sick mind it is OK for police to attack any American citizen if they are rude to the police and don’t obey every command with a smile and a yes sir.
samsez22
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:19amToo many “Brown Shirts” in waiting out there. WTH?!
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:22amtoo many stupid people that don’t listen. When a cop says get back in the vehicle, get back in the vehicle, and don’t stand their cussing at them.
Report Post »Hugh Williams
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:28amI was right it was good ole boy RANGERP that loves to see videos of women being beaten by the police for not being polite.
Report Post »Hugh Williams
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:32amRANGER with your vast experience beating women how much force did you see this dangerous criminal use to warrant the second slam into the pavement. My God it is lucky the 2 brave public servants survived their encounter with this wild criminal.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:32amHugh,
I will bet the next time she is pulled over, she keeps her yap shut, and stays in the car. Some folks learn quicker than others.
Heck, stuff like this make me want to be a cop one day when I retire from the Army. Body slaming liberal, fat mouth, Obama lovers, and the OWS crowd could be fun.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:36amHugh
Heck, every monrning when I wake up, I watch this for motivation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQwQ8AW_WYc
There is a distinct sound when going upside the head of a liberal feminist that just makes music to my ears.
Report Post »14ESCHATOLOGY
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:38am@RangerP
Report Post »First it’s “don’t stand there..not their”
Second…just yesterday a co-worker and I (both bigger men) exchanged heated words and unfortunately there was a swear word or two. Neither on of us threw punches or assaulted the other because in the end neither one of us wanted to go to jail. Our constitution gives us the right of free speech…no where does it say to speak your mind under threat of being assaulted. Uniform or not the law is the law.
14ESCHATOLOGY
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:42am@RANGERP
So…your in the Army but don’t respect or believe in the constitution. What exactly are your fighting for big guy? Obviously not freedom of speech.
Report Post »14ESCHATOLOGY
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:45am@RANGERP
“There is a distinct sound when going upside the head of a liberal feminist that just makes music to my ears.”
Didn’t have to watch your video..this tag line was enough.
Report Post »I encourage you to go see your CO…get some help man…You need it.
rangerp
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:29amWow, sure is fun to geek people up in the morning.
I posted a few comments on here without being able to see the whole clip. I watched it again, and yes, these cops were out of line, and I believe they will be punished or fired.
I do not condone, or have any use for police brutality. Most cops I know are good decent people, but there are some knuckle head dorks that got sand kicked in their face as a kid, who run around with the Barney Fife syndrome.
All of that being said, I also have no sympathy for this new trophy generation of idiots that think everything in life gets to be their way. If you do not want to get slammed on your head, sit in your car, and take your ticket for the infraction you committed. If you think you are going to get out of the car, cuss out the cops, and jaw jack on your phone, do not snivel to me, when you get slammed on the ground. I will bet this lady reacts different next time she gets pulled over.
Cops deal with a lot of dope heads, criminals, and losers. It is not wise to try and push their buttons, because you think you are special.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:18amOk, queue the “thin blue line” comments. We also need the other poster who is trained to “feel resistance” which I’m sure extends to handcuffed women. Perhaps that cop was afraid for his life and reacted accordingly. Yeah, that’s it. /sarc
Report Post »Hugh Williams
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:23amI remember that guy…. wasn’t his name RANGER…something? He vigorously defended the cop that slammed the woman’s face into her car. He have several posts to the story last week.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:26amPerhaps he just deals with entirely to many flappy jawed liberal women who do not know when to get back in the car, and shut their pie hole.
Looks like a classic case of someone’s alligator mouth overriding their tadpole butt.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:38amrangerp
Report Post »Sounds like are a know all that thinks that after a person is cuffed its time to work them over. Just like all shaved headed cop act.
Hugh Williams
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:38amRANGER….. so in your world it is the duty of the police to use any force necessary to prevent American citizens from being rude?????? You are one scary dude. You should think about moving to Russia, Putin could use you in his police force. Of course if the leftist win here we will have a Soviet style police force here and you would not have to move to beat rude people.
Report Post »zman173rd
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:45am@ Ranger;
Report Post »You usually have sound comments. You normally show good judgement and think about the big picture but there‘s something going on here with your comments that go a bit deeper than a woman deserving to be body slammed because she didn’t do EXACTLY what the police wanted. What’s up?
Will your mother, sister, daughter, wife, never be caught up in a situation like this? I hope you aren’t what I think you might be showing yourself as.
Wool-Free Vision
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:05amRothbardian, I agreed with RangerP in the other thread, because in that case he was right. The video I saw was a lone officer dealing with a belligerent drunk who was not cuffed and was presenting a danger to herself, the officer, and any innocent motorist who may have been approaching the scene.
However, this is a completely different situation, and as I said below in reply to Snow Leopard, this LAPD officer should be fired, charged, and stripped of all pension/benefits. The second officer should be similarly treated UNLESS he stood up and called this behavior out as unacceptable.
That being said, your eagerness to use one incident as evidence to justify your opinion on a separate incident 3000 miles away is absolutely wrong and is an indication of a more deeply rooted logical flaw in your judgment process.
Report Post »Hugh Williams
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:14amWOOL-FREE VISION
Report Post »ROTHBARDIAN and I are merely pointing out the hypocrisy of RangerP and other people at The Blaze that claim to be conservatives that love the Constitution. But they then defend every story of police officers being overly violent with American civilians. These same people slam the TSA officers as being government thug perverts but then they defend police body slamming hand cuffed women. It is wrong for any government agency to trash the Constitutional rights of any American. You can’t be for small government that follows the Constitution and be for attacking American citizens because (In RANGERP own words) she probably voted for Obama and she needed an attitude adjust.
Wool-Free Vision
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:05pmHugh, please notice that I, and “other people at The Blaze that claim to be conservatives that love the Constitution,” are judging these incidents on a case-by-case basis based on the evidence presented and not on emotionally-charged prejudice. The apparent ease with which you and Rothbardian can lump us all together and make generalizations is echoed by your willingness to do the same thing to cops in general.
“Well, this cop is an abusive jerk, so obviously any other cop caught on video manhandling a belligerent perp must be an abusive jerk too, and anyone who disagrees with my sweeping generalization is obviously not a real Conservative that loves the Constitution.” I know you didn’t actually say it that way, but that is really what your attitude looks like through the eyes of a victim of your prejudice.
I cannot defend RangerP’s remarks in this thread, but I could in the earlier one. But if I had not spoken up here to correct you, your accusation would, in effect, condemn me by default simply because I saw the previous incident differently than your apparently prejudiced eyes.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:05pmzman173rd
Thanks for the comments and compliment. I think people that read what I post will know that I am a constitution loving conservative, Tea Party supporter, and that I want small and less intrusive gov.
Some of my smart alec comments on here stem from a article a few weeks back, where I believed the cops where justified in using force (many folks on here beat me up over my comments) against a drunk woman, who fell and hit her car when the cop turned her around.
I must admit, sometimes I just enjoy stirring up a hornets’ nest, and watching folks have a tizzy.
I will also add that I do not feel sorry for folks that intentionally try to geek up the cops and then get slammed. He told her to get back into her car. that is what he was trained to do. It is for her and his safety. Cops are in a position of authority, and I was raised to respect that authority. If you do not want to abide by the driving laws, then stop driving, and take a cap. If you get behind that wheel, do so knowing that you must abide by the traffic laws. If you break one of those laws, sit in your car, sign the ticket, thank the cop, and drive away when it is over. If you believe it was not justified, then you go to court and plead your case. I have gone to court, and got out of a ticket before. Getting out of your care, and flapping your jaws is not wise.
Thanks again.
Report Post »Wool-Free Vision
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:18pmBy the way, all that being said, RangerP is correct about one point: If that gum-flapping woman had followed instructions and respected the law, we would almost certainly not be having this discussion. But then, she wouldn’t be getting ready for a BIG payday from the LA county taxpayers either.
It’s an ugly situation, and she deserves a payday because the cop(s) was(were) way out of line. But she really shouldn’t be absolved of all responsibility. Right there in the street, when emotions are running high, you’re unarmed and the LEO is armed to the teeth and twice your size – that is not the time or place to show your ass, no matter how right you think you are. If you feel you are being treated unfairly, that’s what the lawyers and judges are for.
Too many Americans today think they are somehow entitled to respect they haven’t earned and should be shown patience when they offer none in return.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:36pmThe Wooly one speaks my language. Punish the cops when they are out of line, but the tax payer out to be a bit miffed that this belligerent law breaker is about to get a hefty pay day because she could not obey the law, sit her fat butt in the car, and get her ticket. Now the hard working are about to reward the OWS, trophy generation, feminist, jack wagon.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 2:08pmOf the top 10 most Dangerous jobs – killed on the job per 100,000 in the usa 2010=
Report Post »# 1 fisherman 116, #2 Loggers 92, #3 Airplane pilots 71, #4 Farmer/Ranchers 41, #5 Mining machine operators 39, #6 Roofers 32, #7 Sanitation workers 30, #8 Truck drivers and Deliverymen 22, #9 Industry machine repairmen , # 10 Police Officeres
Side note:
Q. How many police suicides are there each year?
A. There are between 130 – 150 police suicides each year. These numbers are the result of two years of study. There is no reason to exaggerate them. They are high enough.
For more details, read the Police Suicide Study 2008 – 2009. Two to three times as many officers commit suicide than are killed by the guns of felons (emphasis–not “than die in the line of duty!”)
progressiveslayer
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:17amSo you can be arrested for using a cell phone? She swore at a cop and gets roughed up,sounds about right for a police state. The cops need to be fired but don’t hold your breath on that one,even if they are fired the union will get their jobs back so they can get back to the serious crime fighting of giving a woman pavement burns for committing the crime of the century,using a cell phone while driving.
Report Post »Kuffar
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:17amTalking on the cell phone certainly does not deserve this kind of battery.
These bastards need to go to jail.
Report Post »LameLiberals
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:31amAgreed.
Report Post »Toltepeceno
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 3:11pmI‘m not sure why so many moron’s cannot see that.
Report Post »DRAGONSEED
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:46pmExactly. They took a rather mild infraction and turned it into a nightmarish mess for everyone involved.
Report Post »lgccac
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:16amMoral of this story, don’t resist arrest.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:23amYea right or they have the right to kill you account you are a major threat when cuffed.
Report Post »Toltepeceno
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:45amI hope it happens to your boyfriend.
Report Post »JACKTHETOAD
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:14amSo, where were they when the poor guy was hauled out of the truck during the Rodney King ‘festivities’? Funny, but I don’t recall any donut shops burning.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:25amYes it is interesting to note how we criminalize adolescents (smoking cigarettes, drinking a beer) but somehow $billions of drugs find there way across the boarder and onto our streets. Perhaps there is money being made and reinvested into a system that seeks to maintain the status quo and allusion of being tough on crime. If we spent half as much time and money on going after the real criminals rather than wasting time on cell phones, texting, high school parties and other “heinous” crimes perhaps we might actually make some headway. No surprise that law enforcement across the country have once again become the primary revenue generators. After all similar to increased fees for car registration, ridiculous school supply and athletic fees the revenue from popular, but irresponsible reductions in taxes must be made up.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:09amThese cops belong in jail.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:21amWill never happen , we the people have let officers get out of hand. Like anything else once you start accepting it it becomes common pratice. A lot of good officers out there getting a bad rap account of this type of actions.
Report Post »Mr.Fitnah
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:22amClearly not oathkeepers.
Report Post »Wool-Free Vision
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:29amThe one officer who slammed her the second time, in particular, should be fired, charged, and stripped of any and all pension/benefits that his public service career would have afforded him. This officer was actually the instigator of the first slam, as well, as the other officer appeared to actually be trying to keep her from falling.
Additionally, if the one officer who was not the main instigator in this case is not distancing himself from the guilty party and is calling this assault anything but an egregious abuse of power, then he too should be fired, charged, and stripped of benefits.
I get the whole loyalty and brotherhood thing, really, I get it. But if you can stand by and let your brother disgrace the badge and everything you are BOTH supposed to stand for, then you are as guilty as he is and should be treated accordingly. This kind of abuse should not be tolerated for the sake of some misguided sense of loyalty or honor.
Honor is as honor does, and I see nothing but dishonor and disgrace in this video.
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