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Congresswoman Admits to House She Had an Abortion
- Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:25am by
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Rep. Jackie Speier (D-CA) made an admission on the House last night while debating whether or not to defund Planned Parenthood (PP): she’s had an abortion.
The admission was followed by a curious defense of PP. According to Speier, defunding PP has nothing to do with creating jobs or cutting the deficit, and thus Congress should not be considering the issue. She also compared PP to Haliburton, and said Democrats were much more respectable for refraining from anti-Haliburton legislation despite its indiscretions, insinuating Republicans should also look past PP’s recent troubles:
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just the facts
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:48amAbortion is murder. No one has the right to take away from God, whether conception was through marriage or lust. If you are a living being, and have a life growing within you, that life is a miracle. God will deal with these people on His terms and in His own time. Until then, if your old enough to play, your old enough to pay.
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:06pmThat’s your opinion. The laws of the United Sates say otherwise. Until that changes, perhaps you can have god send another few Scott Roeders down to do your cowardly work.
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:37pmFact: The Life growing in a womb, any womb, has a unique DNA sequence
Fact: All Family Courts accept DNA evidence as proof of paternity..
If I were an advocate for the unborn, I would point out that the Life growing has it’s own unique DNA, thus not in any way shape or form a part of a woman’s body… If one must view that the originating DNA enjoins the Life to the mother, then equal weight must be given to the other exact 50% whom is enjoined to the Life through DNA…
Science is on Life’s side.. Either the Life is Unique, or 50% owned by each of the mother and father..
If Unique, the Life must be protected… If not, then the father must have equal rights to the Life..
there is no ‘third’ way now… Truth has no agenda.. and Facts back it up..
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 10:37pmdawg of gawd’
By what RIGHT does ONE branch of the FEDERAL government [S.C.] get to determine whether or not a Federal law is legal?
NONE.
This is a STATES rights issue.
Let the citizens of EACH State decide, and fund accordingly.
[I’d be willing to bet that only CA and NY will choose to ABORT BABIES.]
Report Post »[well, ok, maybe MA as well, lol.]
mcccmar
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:46amAdd your comments
Report Post »bkeely
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:46amwhere is the remorse where is the grief where is the humanity… even if it was a choice, the choice ended the life of a child..
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sarg356
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:46amGov’t has no business in personal life …. Sorry for your loss lady. But your wrong.
Report Post »mcccmar
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:46amso she needs a medal? if she had an ounce of ethics she would have sllowed the baby to live and worked with a reputable adoption agency- adoption is the option to an unwanted pregnancy
Report Post »neverending
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:44amNo surprise from a democrat – not only have one but basically be proud of it. Too bad her mother didn’t have one.
Report Post »Will NV
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:44amWhy do libs abort so many black babies?
Report Post »Will NV
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:43amYep.
Report Post »Lost another lib voter.
Great news.
Marylou7
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:41amJust what does her killing a baby have to do with our budget. Apparently she received one of the abortions funded by our tax dollars. STOP FUNDING ABORTIONS, NOW……while you’re at it, STOP ABORTIONS.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 8:29pmWe should pay for more abortions. Anyone who can‘t afford an abortion certainly can’t afford to raise a baby. Every dollar we spend on abortions will be saved ten times over in the money we don’t have to pay for welfare, education and social services. Fund abortion, it’s the fiscally conservative thing to do!
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:39amNot surprised. Thats what liberals do and dont mind admitting it
Report Post »sissykatz
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:39amI am sorry that she had to have a procedure but I doubt she had it at Planned Parenthood and I also think that PP should be privately funded. CUT THE FUNDING
Report Post »ravinginfidel
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:39amThe question is why did she have the abortion. Was a child going to be embarrassing, Was this reverse birth control and just selfishness. Had she been raped?
Report Post »wise grandma
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:39amSo she murdered her own child.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:52amOccasinally I read a story about a mother killing her kids, like the woman who strapped her kids in the car and pushed it in to the lake in N.C. several years back. I’m always curious how abortion rights people find that to be so wrong. If you’re OK with a mother killing her kid, what difference does the age make?
Report Post »capecodsully
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:03pmOr the teenage girl who murders her new born baby, if she had paid George Tiller $5000.00 to murder her child the previous day it would have been OK. The fact that she murdered her baby herself, we are expecting her to understand is wrong. Tiller might be gone but how many more just like him are out there.
Report Post »fancydancy
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:38amIt always amazes me that the folks that are for a women’s rights to remove a child from the womb would not have been here had their mother used the same option. Somehow it seems they FORGET that point.
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:38amIs this “lady” for real?? By not giving Planned Parenthood 350 MILLION dollars each year, this won’t reduce the deficit?? Do taxpayers just give 350 MILLION dollars a year to Halliburton in order to help them with their “other costs”?? Only a Progressive Democrat believes that SPENDING money REDUCES the deficit……..what a complet idiot……and what a shameful display on the floor of the House of Representatives……
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:36amRep. Jackie Speier is racked with guilt and has depression and other mental issues that revolve around that abortion. That’s the bet, any takers?
Report Post »etetetet
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:43amAgree – per my post above – I believe most women with any inkling of morals, have tons of guilt after they take their own childs life away. Just terrible. They try to sanctify their decision by saying the law allows them to choose. More guilt – it was their choice, not some government choice forced on them (that would make it easier for them – lay the guilt on others -but, they can’t – it was their choice to murder).
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:54amI know, I have talked with several woman who have done this in their youth. It haunts them for the rest of their life.
Report Post »lizaz
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:36amPP is an abortion mill and a great percentage of taxpayers are pro-life. Therefore, taxpayer money should not fund PP. Those pro-choice taxpayers can get out their checkbooks and fund PP to their hearts’ desire. Pro-life taxpayers are against their money being used for this purpose. Simple as that.
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:40amWell said.
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 10:27pm“To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.”
Thomas Jefferson
Report Post »Political_Freak
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:35amShe is doing what progressives normally do. The trot forward someone with a personal story to make everyone feel bad. Typically they just don’t make the sob story about themselves.
In the end it only distracts attention from the real problem. Planned Parenthood is an organization that has been built on an evil foundation. Don’t be distracted folks, keep pushing them.
Report Post »barbaraw62
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:38amSobbing for the lost life… not for her!
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:08pmCall it what it is. It’s MURDER! When a woman wants to kill her own child, let her do it with her own money. I‘d don’t want the murder of a baby on my hands by having my tax money supporting these abortion clinics. Let those who approve support this murder with their own money not mine.
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:09pm@DAWG
A baby in his/hers mother’s womb is not “real”??…..no “due process” for a human life?? I do not support what Scott Roeder did to George Tiller…..just as I did not support what George Tiller did for a living…..Progressives are so desperate to defend their sacred temple of abortion that they want to label ALL who oppose abortion as cold-blooded, despicable murderers……Abortion will not end in this country by violence…..it will end when people learn more about the “techniques” used to abort a baby…..such as chemically burning the child to death, dismembering the baby while still in his/her mother’s womb, delivering the baby feet first until his/her jaw is still in the birth canal (so that he/she does not draw his/her first breath of air) and then ramming a medal rod into the base of the baby‘s skull and suctioning the child’s brains out, or by a “hysteronomy”, where the child is delivered feet first but just prior to the head being removed from the birth canal, the umbilical cord is cut and the child is forced back into the emnionic fluid to drown……all of this while science tells us that the baby feels PAIN during these procedures…….
So yes, dare to dream America……that these cruel and barbaric practices do not occur nearly 4,000 times EACH DAY in America…….53 MILLION since roe vs. Wade was decided in 1973……now what were you saying about “Progressive compassion”????
Report Post »Political_Freak
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:13pmWhy don’t we focus on the children who are used and abused by pimps. Why don’t we focus on their forced abortions so they can keep servicing freaks like you Dawg of Gwad? Or would that take away from your revenue stream of pimping these girls out?
Why don’t we focus on all of the families who have unknowingly lost a family member because a teen was scared to own-up to their actions? Why don’t we focus on the fact that liberal, progressive teachings allow them to ignore responsibility to a life that is growing in their womb.
As Nancy Pelosi says…put off responsibility kids, follow your dreams because now you are on your parent’s dime until you are 26. Or how about progressive George W. Bush…just keep buying stuff. Ignore the fact that we are crumbling your morals and society all around you.
Oh yeah, I’m just too busy focusing on my tea bags and U.S.A button collection.
Report Post »Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 11:42amBarbara- that life isn’t lost. It went into a specially marked biohazard bag and sold to an organ harvesting company.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:35am….and a Democrat from California….I’m shocked.
Wait a minute, I live in California…………………….
Report Post »psst
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:34amGeez! The woman is from kal-y-4-nya.
Report Post »Whaddy expect.
As for comparing Haliburton to PP. Well, ya know, the country needs more Petroleum Pipelines.
Trouble is. Soetoro won’t let Cheney build anymore.
Ooops., sorry,I forgot, Dick has not beeen involved w/ Haliburton for many many moons.
bOOsh made her confess.
Make the Stupid People Shut Up
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:33amRoll Back Government to the Founding ideals which certainly doesn’t include funding abortions
Report Post »chips1
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:10pmDid she say she had an abortion or She IS an abortion?
Report Post »Rob@AmPre
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:32amAh yes, because blocking a company that provides products and services to our troops over seas is exactly the same as cutting public funding for an unneeded service.
Report Post »etetetet
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:31amLike most women who have abortions, I would like to ask each one of them how they feel about murdering her child. She says she lost a baby – NO – she murdered a baby.
Report Post »etetetet
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:36amAlso, her comparison to Haliburton – there are laws in place – If Haliburton REALLY broke all the laws she mentioned, the Dems would be doing everything in the power to put the screws to Haliburton because it represented Bush and especially Cheney so much.
Report Post »Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah – as usual the left with little or no facts – it never ends
Desert Dog
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:37amETETET—————Well said!!!!
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:38amTo paraphrase Ann Coulter: the left can‘t call things by their proper names or they’d be revealed as immoral and repugnant. They don’t even like to call things “abortion” any more. It’s “elective termination of pregnancy” or some such now. But when you REALLY think about what procedure it is that ends that baby’s life–that MURDERS that innocent bundle of limitless potential–you realize that abortion IS ALREADY the euphemism!
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:45amAnd, an abortion is not quite the same thing as Haliburton.
@etetetet
Report Post »Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:36am
Also, her comparison to Haliburton – there are laws in place – If Haliburton REALLY broke all the laws she mentioned, the Dems would be doing everything in the power to put the screws to Haliburton because it represented Bush and especially Cheney so much.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah – as usual the left with little or no facts – it never ends
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BEAUTIFUL!!!
rugin
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:50amShe did not murder her baby. It miscarried!! She had a medically necessary abortion. Get a clue. However this is not a reason to keep funding Planned Parenthood.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:56amHaliburton did and laws in place protected Cheney’s chums over there. Ask about the american citizen raped by Haliburton thugs and then held in a cargo container, only to be told that she could not sue in a us court.
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:10pmToo true ET! These people will stand in front of the MAN soon enough, and he will put the HURT on them for eternity, may they all join Adolf in HELL!
Report Post »etetetet
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:33pmRUGIN – no where on that tape does she say she had a miscarriage. No where does she say she chose to had the procedure due to a miscarriage. If that is the case, then those facts need to be brought to the front better. She does say she had the procedure that aborted a 17 week old fetus.
Report Post »IF that is the case, I agree with you – but, I still believe in most of the Blazer comments about PP should not be using tax payer $$$$ to pay for abortions.
godfather
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 6:29pmShe had a legal procedure performed, which means that it is not murder, which is illegal. This is not a left/right issue. It is a constitutional issue so stop saying abortions are only allowed because of evil leftist politicians. In 1973, the Supreme Court ruled that the right to abortion falls under the due process clause. Thus, even if the entire country wanted abortions to be illegal, they would still be legal.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:30amSo is she going to recuse herself? … seems she is letting her “personal” feeling interfere with performace of her duty to voters.
Report Post »rugin
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:47amI think your comment is totally inappropiate. This woman gave a very emotional speech about a personal issue. You may not agree with her but don’t demean her. In case you didn’t understand her the aborted pregnancy was a miscarriage. She did not murder her fetus.
encinom
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:54amThen I guess every female member should recuse themselves since they will be affected either way by the vote.
gramma b
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:01pmNot ever female member would be affected. Some would never consider killing their babies.
Report Post »Godlygovt
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:02pm@CATB
Excellent point. Not only is she letting her personal feelings get in the way but she letting them cloud the facts. Haliburton is a private company. Planned parenthood is not.
@ RUGIN
Report Post »Since when is a miscarriage a “procedure” ?
Sgt.Crust
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:04pmshe is a killer – and she doth protest in vain, just like all you liberal pukes do–no more!
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:34pma Miscarriage is not an abortion it is one or the other
thepatriotdave
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:07pmencinom
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:54am
“Then I guess every female member should recuse themselves since they will be affected either way by the vote.”
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Where on this planet did you buy your logic skills?
http://tinyurl.com/4rv8xsm
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:17pmSgt Crusty . . . I’ve decided to send over a team of crack medical technicians to castrate you. I think it‘s what’s best for you personally and for this great nation of ours. Thanks for your cooperation.
Report Post »Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 3:42pmRugin- most people who have a “procedure” use the term “procedure” because abortion forces them to acknowledge what they have done. No one goes to planned parenthood because of a miscarriage. And a miscarriage is not a “procedure”. Never was. Never will be
Report Post »Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 3:50pmWhat did she do? Fall into an abortion clinic and a so called doctor fell with his instruments into her ****** and accidentally yanked her baby out? It is interesting how she changes the events to appeal to her conscience. And where was daddy?
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 9:34pmLibertyluvnmomma,
If he is as immoral as she was, he was up front writing a check for the abortion!
http://tinyurl.com/4rv8xsm
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:29am“Rep. Admits to Having Abortion During Floor Speech”
You’d think somebody would notice her having an abortion during a floor speech. Seems to be a fairly inappropriate place to have an abortion, really.
Report Post »Tmwatz
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:40amHaha, funny headline
Report Post »sissykatz
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:40amGhost, That is exactly what I thought, I read it several times. lol
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:41amSince they’ve been murdering the Constitution on the floor of the house I guess a baby would be par for the course.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:41amAlan Grayson had several speeches on the house floor which were abortions.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:48amShe lost a baby ??? no she KILLED it ….
rugin
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:48amYour comments are disgusting.
Report Post »ImahaIngttta
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:50amLies without Logic:
Her Lie: Halibuton is publicly funded. Truth: It is not. In fact Dems have forced many fines upon the company.
Report Post »Her logic: Publicly funded abortion is okay since she had an abortion.
Her conclusion: She promotes publicly funding the killing of a [her word] “baby”.
El Barry Soetoro
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:55amThe morning after pill you haters.
Report Post »leftiesaredangerous
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:56am“Procedure”? Since when is murder called a procedure?
Her stomach was in knots listening to the previous speaker? But funding the murdering of babies doesn’t do anything to her stomach.
Her conscience is seared. She is a disgrace.
Report Post »gramma b
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:56amOn another board, a constituent of this woman says that she plays this card every few years, during abortion debates, and every time the media acts like it’s news. And, it sounds like this was not an elective procedure for her. Something went wrong. So it is a complete non sequitur to use it to derail the debate on funding elective abortions. But, a typical dem tactic, playing the victim.
Report Post »abc
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:58amProblematic syntax aside, what is so shocking? The woman is young enough to have had the procedure when it was legal. So it is not shocking. Or at least no more shocking than undergoing IVF or heart surgery.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:58amHa ha…“Syntax” anyone?
Report Post »ImahaIngttta
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 11:58amAnd another lie: She says in the beginning that she had planned to speak about something else. Like this is a sudden change in topic. Yet she read from a prepared laundry list of every evil attributable to Hallibuton.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:00pm“Planned Parenthood has the ”right” to provide abortions…” You betcha girl, they do…just as long as they use “private funds” and not our tax dollars…AND…as long as AB or legal…AND…we hope to change that in the very near future as well
Report Post »Jim S
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:06pmWomen have abortions, it’s a right. Why would an elected female having had an abortion be “SHOCKING”. I mean I was upset at the first few million, but I’m getting use to being a forced funder of slaughter. I mean my tax dollars have gone paying the people and facilities for tens of millions of abortion. Were you shocked at the abortion prior to the Congresswoman’s abortion? Or was all the millions after the Congresswoman’s not shocking? The Blaze can’t really be surprised, let alone shocked.
HillBillySam1
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:12pm@ABC
Report Post »The purpose of heart surgery is to save a life, not destroy a life…….
N37BU6
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:18pmClick on the YouTube logo and read the comments there. Get involved.
Report Post »hud
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:19pmA nation that has lost its way, but really we lost it years ago
Report Post »dkhartman
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:22pmI understood the title but this is funny
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:31pmGhostOfJefferson,
C’mon, get serious, we are talking about Dems after all. I sometimes wonder if they would approve abortions being done at your local CVS or your Wal-Mart Pharmacy while you shop.
Abortions should only be performed if it is a life or death situation for the Mother!
Let the poo-pooing begin from you abortion lovers, I really don’t care. I’m against murdering babies. And you?
http://tinyurl.com/4rv8xsm
Report Post »abc
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:36pmHillbilly, the procedure is legal and common, so it isn’t shocking. You can make all sorts of arguments for why it should not be, but that is beside the point. Also, I notice that you ignore IVF, which also creates a life, but causes a massive number of abortions, making it as morally reprehensible, by your logic, as abortion clinics. Yet conservatives hypocritically ignore these “murders” since lots of wealthy Republicans who can afford this expensive procedure are apparently not a proper or acceptable target of right-wingers. Curious.
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:36pmThe comments here are horrible.
thepatriotdave
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:37pmSgt.Crust
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:02pm
“Who died and made women God? You leftist/progressive pieces of S__T, you are murdering bastards and will pay for your genocide – quit using my money for your murderous acts!”
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Sarge, I understand your anger and totally agree with your sentiments. If I wrote without fear how I feel about those that support abortion I would be banned from every forum on the net. I truly hate these murderers.
http://tinyurl.com/4rv8xsm
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:38pm@rugin the mass murder of the innocent is DISGUSTING and perverse
Report Post »as is any eugenics program.
HillBillySam1
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:48pmI disagree, ABC (now ain’t that a shock?!?)…..IVF is an attempt to create life….the embryos are not used for any other purpose, such as embryonic stem cell research where the fertilized egg is destroyed by design in order to extract the stem cells……if a man and a woman tried having a baby the good ‘ol fashioned way and the woman had several miscarriages or the fertilized egg would not attach itself to the uteran wall, that is not “murder”……I view IVF the same way…..
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:52pmMurder, no make that genocide is NOT a right you freaking leftist moron! shove it up your arse!
Report Post »BriPhi
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:52pm@Islesfordian- She said she had an abortion on the floor of the House, not a baby.
Comparing PP to Halliburton is a Red Herring. Halliburton doesn’t receive Federal funding, PP does.
Report Post »Enuff Zenuff
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:58pm.
@ABC
In your response to Hillbilly, you claim that IVF is no different than abortion – I am no expert on these matters but I beg to differ… With IVF the fertilized eggs are not “viable” without being implanted into a womb… whereas a fetus aborted from a perfectly good womb is viable.
While I would never want any life that I was inolved in creating aborted, I consider this issue to be hugely contentious and would lke to see the following “Compromise” considered if I were a legislator… It is possible for a doctor to detect whether or not there is brain activity in the fetus through an EEG, and I believe that brainwave activity begins around three months into a pregnancy. What if abortions were permitted as long as brainwave activity had not yet begun, but banned after that – once conciousness could be detected?
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:13pmThere you go again ABC. It is one thing for a body to reject an embryo and/or fetus in a natural abortion. As long as the Federal Government doesn’t have to pay for it why is it your concern. It is another for a an embryo and/or fetus to be cut out of a body many times because the child that would be born would be an inconvenience.
The issue is that Planned Parenthood (isn’t that an oxy-moron being that we are talking about the abortions they pay for) gets grants, contracts, etc. from the Federal Government in excess of 300 million. In my view the great extent of this money is to pay to allow individuals to be irresponsible.
The representative said, “do you see us, over here, filing amendments to wipe out funding for Haliburton…?”. By all means representative; please do. If there is waste; if there are illegal actions; if there is corruption happening; that is what you were elected to do. But don’t hold that up as a chip to protect a special interest.
Report Post »Enuff Zenuff
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:15pm.
Report Post »Let me add that I am against taxpayer funding of abortions and yes, I would de-fund PP, ACORN, NPR, NEA, and a host of other liberal organizations that currently get taxpayer support.
grandmaof5
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:25pmPROVE IT! Until we see the backup paperwork I can only assume this is theatrics being used as an excuse not to defund PP.
Report Post »Seraph
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:28pmN37BU6 is correct click the video and get involved on the youtube comments.
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:39pmQuestion – what does defunding Planned Parenthood have to do with creating jobs or reducing the deficit? Nothing – absolutely nothing. This Rep. is correct – this is a vendetta against PP and nothing else – very little money will be saved by defunding Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood does a lot more for the poor and woman than just abortions – and I am willing to bet that many of you do not know half of what Planned Parenthood does.
Arguing about moral issues when our country is out of money is irresponsibility – put the moral issues on the back burners until the deficit is reduced and until the number of unemployed is greatly reduced. You will never win back the White House if things continued going in this direction.
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tifosa
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:52pmDid you listen to what she said?? I’m construing that she meant “womb” when she said “******” and that this is a traumatic memory to talk about, no matter how many times she does so. Yes, she LOST HER BABY due to a medical tragedy.
Report Post »Haliburton’s criminal “cost plus” contract in Iraq was indeed a tax-payer-funded disastrous fiasco perpetrated on the soldiers and the American people. Soldiers have been traumatized, injured by pathogens, due to Haliburton’s neglect to provide what we were paying for, providing clean/safe water food, and cooking materials to our troops.
“Typical dem tactic of playing the victim” Whose is the FIRST name who comes to your mind in terms of playing the victim for the last 3 years? (Hint, not a dem, often is vehemently defended by the right)
abc
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:56pmHillbilly, you ignore the fact that an average of about 10 viable embryos are destroyed for every single one that is implanted. This is a medical fact that my wife (an MD) has witnessed first hand. Add up all of those terminated embryos, which have the same characteristics of embryos that anti-abortion groups claim make it murder (a soul, genetics identical to yours, etc.). So a consistent position should be to outlaw this procedure as well, but that logic must have been lost on you…
Enuff:
“In your response to Hillbilly, you claim that IVF is no different than abortion – I am no expert on these matters but I beg to differ… With IVF the fertilized eggs are not “viable” without being implanted into a womb… whereas a fetus aborted from a perfectly good womb is viable.”
So by that logic, you should be okay with morning after pills since they make an embryo unable to properly implant or remain implanted on the uterine wall. Also, you should have no problem with cloning if that clone starts with an unimplanted embryo since, by your logic, it is not human yet. You clearly are at odds with many right wingers on these issues. The right wing position is that the embryo is human life at conception, so failing to implant all of those human lives onto a uterine wall is murder.
“While I would never want any life that I was inolved in creating aborted, I consider this issue to be hugely contentious and would lke to see the following “Compromise” considered if I were a legislator… It is possible for a doctor to detect whether or not there is brain activity in the fetus through an EEG, and I believe that brainwave activity begins around three months into a pregnancy. What if abortions were permitted as long as brainwave activity had not yet begun, but banned after that – once conciousness could be detected?”
I have maintained that same position for years, but that means that you cannot outlaw abortions until about 28-32 weeks, which is when human thought is first seen on the devices you describe. But conservatives will not go along with this.
Patrick,
“There you go again ABC. It is one thing for a body to reject an embryo and/or fetus in a natural abortion. As long as the Federal Government doesn’t have to pay for it why is it your concern. It is another for a an embryo and/or fetus to be cut out of a body many times because the child that would be born would be an inconvenience.”
There is nothing natural about IVF, and the extra human embryos are destroyed not because they cannot be attached, but because there is no way any couple wants to have 10 kids. They are destroyed with the same implication as an early term abortion, based upon the logic of anti-abortion folks.
“The issue is that Planned Parenthood (isn’t that an oxy-moron being that we are talking about the abortions they pay for) gets grants, contracts, etc. from the Federal Government in excess of 300 million. In my view the great extent of this money is to pay to allow individuals to be irresponsible.”
And public money was spent to develop IVF. And that leads to the same “irresponsibility.” Care to distinguish?
“The representative said, “do you see us, over here, filing amendments to wipe out funding for Haliburton…?”. By all means representative; please do. If there is waste; if there are illegal actions; if there is corruption happening; that is what you were elected to do. But don’t hold that up as a chip to protect a special interest.”
I don’t agree with analogizing from PP to Halliburton. Halliburton has a terrible reputation and has caused great harm. It’s many problems are obvious and stand on their own. I think it confusing to connect them to PP, which is not nearly as bad an actor. It hasn’t committed graft. It seeks to inform rather than hide. It hasn’t bilked tax payers out of millions of dollars. And it hasn’t electrocuted and killed US soldiers, nor been partly responsible for the death of fathers working on oil platforms. It also hasn’t hired hookers and bought cocaine to bribe government officials. This representative undermines her case by comparing PP to the “Hitler” of US companies.
Report Post »Dale
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:05pm@tower7femacamp, no she had a procedure!
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:14pm“put the moral issues on the back burners until the deficit is reduced and until the number of unemployed is greatly reduced. You will never win back the White House if things continued going in this direction.”
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Really? Hmm.. I would say that it’s the lack of morals and the decay of ethics that have degraded this country into a cess pool of dehumanized Americans..
“Question – what does defunding Planned Parenthood have to do with creating jobs or reducing the deficit?”
Everything.. Just because a procedure is decriminalized, doesn‘t mean it should be provided with a govassist crutch that distorts the ’market’
If abortion providers can turn a profit, let them.. The deficit will be reduced and, providing there is a market for abortions, a private sphere job creator..
It‘s up to ’Abortion Profiteers’ to sink or swim in the real world..
Maybe PP can have a bake sale or something…
Report Post »gravelgoose
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:22pmwonder if she ever thinks about what she did that could have been me I was adopted Think GOD I was given to a wonderful family Now i pray every day for women that is making that decision.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:23pm@ ABC……prostitution is legal and certainly common in Nevada but I don’t think that makes it particularly desirable. IVF doesn’t “cause” an abortion. Abortion is the deliberate ending of a pregnancy before delivery of a baby. IVF is attempting to successfully implant a fertilized ovum into the uterine wall of a woman. This sometimes fails. So is the case in nature many times when an ovum is fertilized the “old fashioned” way the implant is unsuccessful and the pregnancy ends then and there. That is not abortion which is the intentional ending of a pregnancy that successfully implanted in the uterine wall and is presumed viable since it continues to grow and develop. Sorry my friend I am a physician and your account is not medically accurate at all on this one.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:31pm@ ABC as I am sure your wife is aware many pregnancies begin as twins and one ovum is adsorbed. This is no more murder in IVF than the Ovum that are fertilized and do not take during the IVF process it actually mimics closely what takes place naturally. If you want to get technical BCP by your definition are an abortifacient. Look up the 3 mechanisms of action of BCP and you will see that when they do not prevent fertilization (which has been shown to be fairly frequently) they prevent successful implantation of the fertilized ovum and therefore no viable pregnancy takes place.
Report Post »Jim in Houston
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:44pmShould be on Jay Leno’s Headlines segment.
Report Post »Hisemiester
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 3:17pmHell, she is from Ca. A demo from Ca can do anything. Abortion on the floor or hanging from the lights. Seems to me she should know more about planned parenthood. Where do these little fellers come from? I’ve often wondered about all this planned parenthood thing. Just tell those interested where the little ones come from and what the process is to get one. Tell them not to do those things and wallah-no little fellers. My mom always told my five sisters to keep their knees together, I believe it was “Hold this penny between your thighs” Don’t believe that costs millions of dollars. Rep. Speier admits she is a murderer. Genocide if you will. “Off with her head”
Report Post »ron2win
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 3:20pmyou can be rest assured if haveing an abortion on the house floor helped her cause ,she would probably do it. These people have no shame.
Report Post »Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 3:35pmBaby Killer.
Report Post »Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 3:38pmDoes anyone have a clue to how developed a baby is at 17 weeks? that is almost halfway. That is 4-5 weeks from viable outside the womb. What a disgusting cow.
Report Post »Oh, God!
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 3:40pm@WATCHTHEOTHERHAND-very well stated. I have miscarried 8 times and never thought I would get the 4 I have now. I did not go through IVF, but opted for the IUI. And even with that procedure, I still lost many. Trying to say that abortion is the same as miscarriage is insane. They are completely different. Watch out for ABC, he/she tends to be one of those people that tends to think that they know more than others while lacking any common sense.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 3:48pmThanks OHGOD……May we never withdraw from defending truth. Press on and on !!
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 3:50pm@WATCHTHEOTHERHAND
Report Post »Thank you for explaining your point to ABC as well as you did concerning IVF…..I tired and failed miserably since I am not a doctor…..but I could play one on TV…….Our friend ABC seems to have confused “ideology” with “logic”, as he puts it……I also tried using logic and once again failed miserably since I am not a Vulcan…….but I could play one on TV……
OnceA9R
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 3:52pmI‘m more concerned about her ’fetus’ leaving her ****** to go into her cervix. Either someone needs to have ‘the talk’ with this woman, or Calif has truly gone wacko and they’re now evolving into marsupials
Report Post »Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 3:59pmI just called Jackie’s office. her people are saying she had the procedure done because the baby was dying and she would be sterile if she didn’t have it done.
Report Post »Is she now a victim for being taken advantage of. She should rally against PP. rather than defend them.
docvet
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 4:11pmThis isn’t the first time, probably won’t be the last.
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 4:19pm“Planned Parenthood does a lot more for the poor and woman than just abortions”
@walkwithme66 – There are plenty of groups that do really great things that get no Federal funding. If people feel it is worthy they will give money to it. You could be the fund raiser since you are so impassioned. It was improper for the government to begin funding groups like Planned Parenthood.
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 5:06pm“There is nothing natural about IVF, and the extra human embryos are destroyed not because they cannot be attached, but because there is no way any couple wants to have 10 kids. They are destroyed with the same implication as an early term abortion, based upon the logic of anti-abortion folks.”
Don’t twist my words! I didn’t say IVF was natural. Once the embryo is placed in the Uterus the body either accepts it or rejects it. Rejection is a “natural” abortion. I would submit that there would be more children available for adoption if groups like Planned Parenthood did not pay for abortions. This would create a situation in which fewer couples would feel the need for IVF.
I just love people like you that talk out of both ends of their mouths. A woman should have freedom over her body but women who have IVF shouldn’t be allowed the choice to have an embryo implanted. I’m very lucky. My wife and I had not problems conceiving. But I would certainly like the option if we were not so lucky. Millions of sperm cells don’t make it to the egg. If I follow your logic I am lead to believe that humans should not copulate because that is a form of abortion knowing that all but a very few sperm make it to the egg.
“And public money was spent to develop IVF. And that leads to the same “irresponsibility.” Care to distinguish?”
Nope, the older I get the more I lean libertarian. The government should stay clear of funding research. If the public feels a research project is worth while then they can give money directly to said project. You have plenty of billionaires today that are willing to give and currently looking to give money toward projects they deem worth while.
“I don’t agree with analogizing from PP to Halliburton.” That doesn’t surprise me in the least but many of us on this board say that Planned Parenthood does as more harm than the good. Personal responsibility is slowly dying and I submit the idea of PP plays a part in the slow erosion of Americans being responsible for their actions. Don’t want a child…then don’t have sex.
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 5:38pmIt hasn’t committed graft. – Not as far as we know but you can‘t say with 100 percent certainty that they haven’t can you?
It seeks to inform rather than hide. – Yep, inform children and young women who are imrpessionable that abortion is a good obtion. Informas pimps how to obtain abortions for the women they hold in slavery as prostitutes. Tries to hide that their employees had talked to pimps about helping them obtain abortions.
It hasn’t bilked tax payers out of millions of dollars. – That is a matter that is up to interpretation. I say that 300 million plus a year to fund abortions is bilking the tax payer.
And it hasn’t electrocuted and killed US soldiers, nor been partly responsible for the death of fathers working on oil platforms. – Nope just cutting up an innocent fetus, yanking it from the womb, then throwing in the trash like it means nothing at all. As far as the US soldier comment I am unfamilier with the case(s) you note.
It also hasn’t hired hookers and bought cocaine to bribe government officials. – As far as we know they haven’t but again some of their employees have supported pimps and their continued slavery of women by helping them obtain abortions for the women they hold in slavery as prostitutes.
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 5:55pmShe has commetted murder
Report Post »abc
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 6:29pmWatch, I think you understand that the excess embryos are injected with a chemical to kill them in the petri dish. This is killing an embryo just like killing one in utero. You create 10 lives to kill 9. The difference between this and early term abortion escapes me, given the logic of the anti-abortion crowd. The spontaneous abortions or adsoptions you talk about are not involved in IVF so it’s not analogous.
Report Post »Cove30
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:46pm@ABC
Are you for real? You know nothing about IVF or embryos or any of the procedures involved in it. Your wife‘s a doctor and she’s “witnessed” 10 embyros discarded to every one? Then she must work at a fertility clinic (say it isn’t so) because that’s the only place you could ever witness what was being done with embryos.. At what point in IVF do you think embryos are discarded? Right after they’re created becuase there are too many to transfer (not “implant”)? After pregnancy test becomes positive. Explain the time-line for me.
Report Post »Cove30
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:55pmABC,
Report Post »Don’t worry, I’ll give you time to time to surf the internet for some information, because I know for a fact that you have none. Embryos are not injected with a chemical to kill them — that is laughable.
Cemoto78
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:05pmThese people continue to amaze me. They are just so juvenile, have you no shame at all.
Report Post »“She also compared PP to Haliburton, and said Democrats were much more respectable for refraining from anti-Haliburton legislation despite its indiscretions, insinuating Republicans should also look past PP’s recent troubles” Two wrongs will never make a right and if you morons felt so strongly why didn’t you draft a bill to cut funds from Haliburton? Morons, total morons.
thepatriotdave
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:15pmgravelgoose,
Your birth Mother did a brave thing by NOT having you murdered. She did the right thing, and the proof is that you are here for me to talk to. Take care.
Report Post »Tenacious Moses
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:16pmAnd the medical procedure most favored by Democrats? Why, a D&C of course.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:22pmShe has every right to do with her personal life what she wants. I am a pro life choicer. I believe an abortion is wrong in every way but I also believe it has nothing to do with government forcing anyone on any decision. I feel sorry for this woman that she had every right to make the correct decision and just did not have the fortitude. Keep my money from funding all things that have not been afforded the federal government by the Constitution.
Report Post »Glenn in Virginia
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:29pmThat’s no surprise. Democrats will stoop to anything to defend abortion, even to having one on the House floor.
Report Post »lhvd6639
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:10pmHave her produce medical records they lied about roe v wade she could be ling about this
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 10:55pm@ ABC The arguments have been made and we will have to leave others to decide what they believe, but to equate the fertilization of several eggs in order to have a successful pregnancy (IVF) is exactly what happens naturally so very often (many eggs may be fertilized before successful pregnancy is achieved, not necessarily all at once). To suggest that that is the same as intentionally stopping a pregnancy where a fertilized egg has successfully implanted and begun the process of cell division and differentiation seems disingenuous to me. BTW some of the embryos from IVF are donated to other couples not destroyed. Let me ask those who are for abortion. Have you seen an abortion? Have you held the tiny legs or arms in your hand post procedure? Have you seen on a 4D scan the image of a child’s face as it struggles against the intruding instrument or solution (sorry to be graphic) but if you have not then don’t try to tell me this is the same as couples trying to have a child that may have a left over embryo. A heart beat is present at 5 to 6 weeks after conception. For many women they don’t know they are even pregnant very long before that time. So I think to equate terminating a pregnancy at even its earliest stages is a bit different from a couple desperate to have a child that may have a fertilized ovum left over. Two totally different things. I will let the readers decide for themselves.
Report Post »smallstuff7
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 12:06amIt is easy to see why our nation is dying. Note that the woman said she was pregnant with a child; that she lost a baby. A child. A baby. Most of us are afraid to look at what we’re doing to our own precious little ones. It’s time to open our eyes and admit our error. They are children. They are babies. http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/DEabortiongraphic.html http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA5.BMP
Report Post »kennedy205
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 1:02amShe had the proceedure to save her life. If the baby were to grow where it was it would have died and she probably would have dide. She wanted the baby. Are those of you calling her a murderer actaally suggesting you should keep a child who is going to die, argueably painfully if it grows to be crushed and put you in mortal danger?
Also, planned parenthood does not put tax money toward abortions. The money that goes to abortions is donated by private citizens. The government money goes to birth control, cirvical checks, mamagrams and other gynocological services. The birth control, that many of these woman can not afford otherwise, actually prevents abortions. I am against abortion, I do see the hiprocacy in being against hte death penalty and for abortion. And I don’t thnk there is any good excuse for aborting an otherwise healty baby for selfish reasons. Espicially when there are good people out there looking to adopt, but I do see a reason for using it in cases where the baby will die, the woman is in mortal danger or a person has been raped by a family member, in that case it‘s between the woman and their doctor Also I believe it is God’s place to judge.
Report Post »abc
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 4:06amCove, tell that to the folks at MGH. Also, apparently you have never heard of snowflake babies. You know very little.
Hand, the vast majority are not donated but destroyed, and the difference between a 16 cell embryo and early term fetus looks large but is small. Neither have a developed brain, and we turn off brain dead adults in the hospital all the time. Resorting to misguided and misleading emotion should be beneath you.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 9:03amAt 10 weeks a child has a fully formed foot and fingers. At 8 weeks the child begins to move and undulate and a rudimentary nervous system is functioning. Of course it isn’t a brain like you and I have it is developing, unless of course it is stopped by an abortion. ABC I‘m sure you don’t like my descriptions of an abortion neither does planned parenthood, it is a little to accurate for some to handle. But if you haven’t witnessed these things, which I am sure you have not they are powerful as regard to the fact that a life is being terminated and if you are going to try to tell me, a physician, that there is not much difference between a blastocyst and an “early term” fetus you my friend do not understand human development nor have you studied it, because they most certainly are not !! I believe yours is an attempt to equate fertilized ovums with terminated fetuses so as to justify the later. However, one is a viable pregnancy which if left alone (barring a miscarriage) would result in the birth of a human child while the other if left alone will result in no human at all. The couple has done nothing more or less than what has happened to EVERY married couple that has had intercourse. Some eggs are fertilized that do not result in a pregnancy and they are then discarded when the woman has her period. However, jamming an instrument into a woman’s uterus to dismember an “early fetus” and suck out the remains or inject a saline solution that chemical kills the fetus like acid is not the same thing.
Report Post »Sinista Mace
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 9:58amWhy do you folks put that type of imagery out there….
I’m traumatized from visualizing that now…
Public abortion on the House Floor!
Woohoo lets not wait until they grow up and find Jesus!
We have to stop these infidels in the womb!
Report Post »happyboy
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 11:33amJUST ONE MORE BLOOD LIBELER BABY KILLING DEMOCRAT
Kills those babies, kills them. I wounder how her baby was killed: salin, sissors, or tearing apart?
Take our tax money and use it to butcher babies. The number is now over 50 million dead American babies.
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