Crime

Gripping Video: Cops Gun Down Carjacking Suspect on Live TV as Bystander Ducks for Cover

A carjacking suspect who stole two cars on Thursday and led police on an auto chase is dead after police opened fire, spraying his car with a myriad of bullets. And the moment was all caught on video.

Police say the suspect began brandishing his weapon and pointing it at people at a local Shell gas station, prompting them to take action. But police have come under scrutiny because a bystander can be seen ducking for cover — with the gas nozzle still in his vehicle — as the bullets whiz by just feet away.

The shootout was played live on local TV, much to the horror of some anchors:

KABC-TV has more background:

Authorities are saying that more than one officer opened fire on the suspect, but they are not saying how many officers or how many rounds.

The violence erupted at 7:30 p.m. at the Shell station at Vermont Avenue and Wilshire Boulevard. The male suspect with long hair who some mistook as a woman was dead at the scene and his car was riddled with bullet holes.

One customer was caught in the crossfire as he was pumping gas and ducked on the ground.

Investigators say it all began when the 20-year-old suspect carjacked a woman in San Bernardino just before 3:30 p.m. Three hours later, police say the suspect then abandoned that vehicle and carjacked a 65-year-old man at gunpoint in East Los Angeles. A short time later, police spotted that vehicle and a chase ensued for about an hour.

The suspect drove through Hollywood and Koreatown before pulling into the gas station.

The station also interviewed eyewitnesses, one who said the police fired approximately “20 times or 30 times:”

“I saw a guy with a gun behind my car and after that the police came,” Harry Hahn, the bystander, told KCLA-TV. “Police said, ‘Just go down!’”

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  • Zarapachi
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:16am

    Suicide By Cop, in three easy steps. Step 1: Steal a car, and lead cops on a dangerous chase. Step 2: Steal a second car and repeat step 1. Step 3: Wave gun around at cops, and accidentally misfire.

    Good job cops, one less ******* on the streets.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:46am

      Mr Zarapachi

      Those are very mean and spitefull comments, and you need to retract them.

      This young man was just expressing himself. Rich people get to drive cars, why should he not get the same advantage. had teachers, parents, and authorities just listened, and given him more trophies, this would never have happened.

      Now how can we spin this, and blame gun ownership and make ground from this tragedy.

      fellow libs unite, get out and recruit, we just lost a vote for Obama and need to gin up another.

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    • I.Gaspar
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:59am

      Ranger.
      On another board I told some lib drone to take his head out of his as*, and was called a potty mouth and evil…but you are right…we should all sing kumbaya and apologize to the dead loser…while we apologize to the afghanis who killed two Americans because someone left the koran out in the rain….
      (I do get the sarcasm…and I agree with you in the same way)

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    • afishfarted
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:06am

      kumbaya my lord, kumbaya kumbaya ~BOOM BOOM BOOM RATTA TAT TAT BANG BANG BANG
      oh crap

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:47am

      I think we are seeing a rise in crime and from ordinary people who have never been in any trouble in their lives. A switch has been flipped in our thinking, people are losing hope and when hope is gone they lose it. We will see more of this in the near future. Society is cracking! An armed robbery at the Montclair Mall last night outside LA where four person went into the Ben Bridge jewelry store and raided it. The place was locked down and the assailents got stuck inside. This kind of stuff is normal everyday goings on in the LA areas. Another woman arrested for having sex with her students and the list goes on and on.

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    • KILLACOMMIE4MOMMY
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:52am

      A SATURN???? Really?
      Another dead voter for BHO to add to the roles.
      20 to 30 shots? Me thinks the Police need to hit the indoor range in the AM to tighten up that shot group. Should not waste all that ammo taking out the trash.

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:01am

      If this was the standard response to these types of crimes, I‘ll bet you we’d have fewer of these types of crimes.

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    • Buck Shane
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:27am

      Here’s my problem: What was downstream of the gunfire? What happened to the ricochets?
      If their gunfire hit other people, they would have been responsible, and we would be responsible financially.
      If they shoot to save a life, I’m ok with it. If they shoot in a crowded area without absolute necessity, I do not want them saying they are protecting people – they are the threat.

      Buck Shane  
    • budzy1911
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:44am

      George,

      Many of these events have one thing in common – they are in California – or insert other liberal state. Criminals there have no fear of the average citizen shooting back. Places like New York, Chicago, and LA treat you like an incompetent child that must rely on the government for their needs. Sadly that is what people in those locations want, they want politicians that take care of them and are willing to give up a lot to get that. I agree with you that society is crumbling but if the schools teach that everything is OK and that you should never judge, then there is only one outcome – chaos.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 12:02pm

      @Butt Shame

      Looks like the bad guy was down stream of the bullets, as they found their target in his carcass. No one else was hit, and i did not read anything about any other damage.

      Stop being a lilly livered, bleeding heart liberal. there are pleny more Obama supporters out there.

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    • Miami
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 12:15pm

      Zarapachi

      Spot on

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    • deidrea58
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:08pm

      i agree totally!!!

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    • Buck Shane
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:20pm

      @ rangerp

      “Looks like the bad guy was down stream of the bullets”

      Are you saying there was no person or traffic down range? If that is what you are saying, how do you know?
      Are you saying they were lucky? That is an incredibly weak argument to what I posted.

      I said, “If they shoot to save a life, I’m ok with it. If they shoot in a crowded area without absolute necessity, I do not want them saying they are protecting people – they are the threat.”
      You apparently take offense to that statement. Then, you think police should shoot other than to save a life? You think police should shoot into a crowd when it is not absolutely necessary?

      Please do not respond to my posts anymore. You are dumb.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:35pm

      Butt Shame

      Request denied.

      Said bad guy was waving a gun after stealling two cars and running from police.

      Most folks would consider waving a gun at the police as an act that might be construed as life threatening.

      You call me dumb, how about you get a pistol, go find some police, and wave it at them, and we will see who is really dumb.

      Save the sob stories for the huffpo.

      Looked like good shooting to me, end results showed it to be good shooting. Stop your sniveling.

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    • antiencenom
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:47pm

      We are Ok Ranger My uncle just died last night.

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    • Patrick Henry II
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:57pm

      Cops don’t shoot people for stealing cars. They do shoot people who carjack cars (big difference) and wave guns around whie doing it. I got to witness a car jacking and its almost imediate conclusion. The idiot did it while a paired up cop car happened to be driving by near Detroit. They don’t treat carjackers well since they are very very prone to killing.

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    • Buck Shane
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:08pm

      @ rangerp
      “Most folks would consider waving a gun at the police as an act that might be construed as life threatening”
      “You call me dumb, how about you get a pistol, go find some police, and wave it at them, and we will see who is really dumb.”

      This is a dumb suggestion by your own pseudo logic.

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    • robertsgt40
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:22pm

      Looks like “duck and cover” from the 50s in back in vogue

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    • Obama Bin Lying
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:24pm

      Three things will happen here.

      1. The guy getting gas will never go back to that station
      2. Theretard who got shot will never steal anythign ever again
      3. Encinoboob/Mace….will be here whinning about this idiots rights.

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    • meeester
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:30pm

      rangerp,
      Why do you think they would have lost an Obama voter. Wouldn’t this just make the carjacker a more reliable vote?

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 3:18pm

      In the second video clip…. what is the green, elongated light that flashes twice in the driver side floor?

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 3:38pm

      @meeester
      rangerp, Why do you think they would have lost an Obama voter. Wouldn’t this just make the carjacker a more reliable vote?
      ——-
      Good pt., meester. This guy will now be able to vote in all 57 states.

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    • El Pistoffo
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 4:35pm

      The-Monk
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 3:18pm

      In the second video clip…. what is the green, elongated light that flashes twice in the driver side floor?

      @Monk
      Mayble than green light in the car has something to do with this new law enforcement laser though I doubt it.
      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/fda-approves-laser-dazzler-for-use-by-law-enforcement-so-how-does-it-work/

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    • El Pistoffo
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 4:45pm

      In response to collateral damage in shoot outs, last Memorial Day weekend there was a similar shooting incident at South Beach in Miami. Some nut was driving around in a car attempting to ram the cops and get away. The police then opened fired and discharged if I remember correctly around 100 rounds. The driver was killed but 4 bystanders were wounded as well. They found no firearms on the suspect.

      Stray bullets can injure bystanders. Then again 100+ rounds is over kill. But this carjacker will not be missed.

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    • LIBSALWAYSLIE
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 5:41pm

      He’ll never do it again, good job police!

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    • pavnvet
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 5:42pm

      And tell me again why they call this la la land?

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    • ahull15
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 5:44pm

      Exactly RANGERP, spot on. Except you forgot one thing, that this was all Bush’s fault!

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    • MarsBarsTru7
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 5:49pm

      L.A. area police continue to disgust me. Do you guys have any idea what a joke they are to most of the police forces in the rest of the country? They shot and killed a guy who smashed some windows at a fast food restaurant just a few weeks ago and this time they shoot a guy to death in a vehicle he stole. Freaking incompetent jackasses. Too many lives have been lost or ruined by these people. Yet, they’ll let organized crime, celebrity crime, and OWS go on like there’s nothing to take issue with.

      I hate that I live in this area.

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    • MarsBarsTru7
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 6:07pm

      The vast majority of you posting in response to this really need a solid reality check. Where’s your humanity? This is someone dead for stealing a car. Is that really the ideal outcome when someone commits theft? You freaks. It’s responses to stories like this that give conservatives a bad name. You people don’t represent me. You don’t represent the majority of conservatives. You represent a delusional minority within the conservative movement.

      What is it you guys are missing here? This wasn’t an enemy combatant on a battlefield. This wasn‘t someone that was in the act of threatening someone’s life directly. They were trapped in the car. The police opened up with a ridiculously over the top response killing a thief and putting the lives of multiple other people in danger. No decent law enforcement official would watch this and applaud it. It’s reprehensible. And even in a justified shooting, you don’t cheer for the death of the criminal. What twisted sick view of the world do you people have that you cheer for death?

      I was on the front line for months confronting OWSers about their idiocy claiming police brutality. Were any of you? I have family in law enforcement. Do any of you? Is there a single Christian among you? If so, where is your outrage at the comments cheering death? The culture of this country is sinking into a pit, and it isn’t just happening on the left.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 6:32pm

      @MarsBarsTru7

      A little reality check for you dude.

      Less than 150 years ago, the good christian people of this nation hung folks for stealing horses.

      News flash for you- the cops did not shoot him for stealing a car. the man jacked a car. Do you know what that means? It means he ran up, pointed a gun at the driver, forced him out of the car, and drove off. That is considered deadly force. If the driver had a gun, he could legally shoot the car jacker. This was not some kid that went for a joy rid in grandmas station wagon.

      After jacking one car, he jacked another. Once trapped, he pointed his gun at police. This is considered deadly force. He has already shown a propensity for violence, criminal behavior by jacking two cars at gun point.

      What did you expect the cops to do? give him a time out?

      when you jack cars at gun point, then point a gun at cops, do not be surprised when they open up in unison, and kill your butt. It is kind of how it works.

      Extract your head from your butt, and catch a clue.

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    • Ars21689
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 6:52pm

      Marsbars, I am a Christian, I have a couple of members of my family who are cops, and I do not feel sorry for this guy. He chose to steal two cars, while in possession of a firearm, and then pointed said firearm at the police. What exactly is the problem here?

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    • Bub47
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 7:01pm

      What kind of training do cops get? Are they so poorly trained that when the adrenalin hits they must empty a 15 round magazine at one perp? They would be in big do-do if another armed perp popped up out of the car.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 7:13pm

      Bub47

      Thus the reason we train for mag changes, and carry extra mags.

      You shoot until there is no longer a threat. Lots of monday morning quarterbacks like to pop off at the gums about gun fights, and they themsleves have never been in a fire fight.

      One less criminal car jacker on the street – stop sniveling.

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    • carbonyes
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 7:47pm

      Lot of stupid azz comments here! The hail of bullets that were fired into the car? No need to call for an ambulance there. The cops? not only a bit of overkill, much more importantly, the azzez were firing away with the guy pumping gas pretty much in the line of fire, but at least the guy on the other side of the pump appearing to hold his fire. The bystander could have very easily been hit and fortunately wasn’t. Not exactly good police work, pretty much plain and simple. Looks like everyone was vying for winner of the Dirty Harry shoot em up contest.

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    • MarsBarsTru7
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 7:52pm

      @RANGERP This isn’t the battlefield soldier. This isn‘t someone in Afghanistan that’s a Taliban member holding an assault rifle shooting at cops. You aren’t judge, jury, and executioner in the field in America. There is protocol. This is a civilian situation.

      If a guy points a gun at cops, does he deserve to get shot at? Yeah. He does. I don’t dispute that. However, police train constantly for this type of situation and these guys didn’t handle it the way police are trained to handle it. Furthermore, however much this guy “deserved” to be shot to death or not doesn’t change the “wrongness” of the dialogue on this website. People are saying he deserved to die for being a thief. So-called Christian priests tortured people in the Spanish Inquisition for various dubious reasons. Does it make it right? Do you actually think citing that historically people have been hung for stealing horses qualifies your moral position? What about slaves? Christians owned slaves before. Does that make it right?

      Right is right, and wrong is wrong. Morality is absolute. It is wrong to kill someone for thievery. It is wrong to cheer for someone’s death. Who the criminal was is clear. The police weren’t criminals. However, they SUCKED at their job and cost someone his life and potentially injured others because of their incompetence. *That* is my position.

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:24pm

      i didn’t know the law allowed people to gun down others who are “suspected” not convicted of something… hmmm interesting.. i suspect a lot of people in congress of bribery… just saying.

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:25pm

      oh, oops, lol… why did they say suspect… he was a car jacker… and he fired on them, why wouldn’t they gun him down? lol.. o man ;p

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    • pyeatte
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 2:33pm

      Absolutely correct. This is called weeding out the gene pool.

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    • antiprogressive
      Posted on May 9, 2012 at 3:10am

      kudos to the cops.

      Too bad a perfecly good car had to get shot up though.
      I think they should charge the corpse’s family with reparations for the damage.

      As well as pain and suffering for those who were carjacked.

      Anyone who feels sorry for that slimeball needs to move to France.
      They are your type.
      Funny part is you probably don’t even understand WHY.

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  • little big man
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:10am

    All right all right now that’s what I call justice. hell if I was the guy ducking and had a gun with a carry permit I would have joined in the fun. another obama voter bites the dust.

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    • Harry Assenback
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:07am

      You are correct. He would be justified in protecting himself. Join the Fun. LOL

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    • thecid100
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:38am

      Yeah, and I bet this guy still votes for Obama after he’s dead.

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    • little big man
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:19am

      Harry Assenback
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:07am
      You are correct. He would be justified in protecting himself. Join the Fun. LOL
      _________________________________________________________________________________

      OMG I almost fell out of my chair reading your response, way to funny, but you are probably right.

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    • rocketwrangler
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:53am

      Only problem I see is you should have to have a permit to carry. Do you think this dirtbag car thief had a carry permit? I live in AZ and we can carry concealed without a permit. That’s how it should be.

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    • rocketwrangler
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 12:00pm

      Correction: “…should NOT have to have a carry permit.”

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    • Tom K
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:24pm

      @ LITTLE BIG MAN: If you had been the guy ducking and had drawn your concealed weapon, those cops may have seen you as a threat and you would be wearing a toe tag too. Pass the background check, go to the academy and become a cop !

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    • Patrick Henry II
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:07pm

      thecid100
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:38am
      Yeah, and I bet this guy still votes for Obama after he’s dead.

      **not a laughing matter. ACORN will get this guys info and register him today if he is not already registered.** and he will vote in November and the primaries if needed.

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  • lordjosh
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:10am

    I suppose I would have just rather seen him shot in the process of jacking the cars by the owners of the cars than by the hellfire volley of the “standard issue street soldier”.

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  • cloudsofwar
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:09am

    Headline: obama to apologize to the perp’s family.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:05am

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    Lucky the Cop’s did not Kill a bystander. C’mon Man 20-30 Rounds? My wife & daughter can shoot better than that……

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    • Bum thrower
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:38am

      Hey man; it’s called “Spray and Pray”…….

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    • drago
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:42am

      @Spank
      Ive out shot local leo’s at my local range,very few cops ive seen really know how to shoot, in a calm or tense sutuation, pretty pathetic really…….

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    • turkey13
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:06am

      @Spanky – You forget that in California cops can’t shoot guns for practice. All bullets have serial numbers and when shot you have to log all shot bullits. Here in Oklahoma our OHP officers have AR-15′s with 30 shot clips. If 3 or 4 of them were shooting the turkey would have had about 100 hits on his body.

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    • SoupSandwich
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:10am

      Have to concur w Drago. Very few go to range other than to qualify-once a year. Many take it more serious to their survival(usually vets), most though look at it as extra work. Boggles the mind with the state of affairs. Why use anything other than a .45 acp and if your hand can’t handle it, stay in the office. PC sucks on the street and actually has no place. The perp had a few choices before they were all taken from him.

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    • Harry Assenback
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:11am

      I can’t blame the Police for the number of shots. These brave men and women deserve to go home to there families every night. If that means unloading the clip and leaving no doubt then so be it.

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    • jblovesAmerica
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:34am

      if you look at the film-“concentrated supreme firepower”
      this film clip should be shown every night on the local news around the country.
      perhaps another “lost soul” would think before pulling this ****.

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    • YouSayBlahBlah
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 9:46am

      No. It‘s called shoot ’em till their dead and then some.

      How many shots would be enough? 2? 5?

      Anyone with a problem about number of rounds fired, I ask this question.

      Would you want to go up to the car to check the perp after 4 or 5 shots?

      You kill em with authority. If I was the cop with a shotty I would be blasting holes all the way up the side and give him another one when I got to the window.

      It’s not a video game. There are no re-spawns. You don’t get extra points for 1 shot, head shots. Well, snipers do but they were not on the scene and it was not a situation for them.

      You have to kill the bad before he can kill someone else.

      If the cops had only fired a few shots the bad guy could’ve unloaded into a gas pump and killed EVERYONE within 100 yards or more.

      Shock and Awe….it also gets the attention of other jackers…..not all unfortunately but those who don’t see that car-jacking could kill them, well, they are the next breaking news story…AND target practice.

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  • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:05am

    Not victim… Suspect.

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    • chips1
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:22am

      He is a suspect only in court. On the street, after all that was going on, he was the criminal.

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    • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 6:13pm

      No. In court, he’s the accused and the defendant. On the street, he’s the perpetrator and the suspect. I know, it does great violence to the English language to say that a person whom the police witnessed with their own eyes perform violence and crime is merely “suspected” of those crimes, but there it is.

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  • cloudsofwar
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:04am

    the cops did their job. the car jacker pointed his gun at the cops and the cops don’t wait until one of them is shot. you shoot until the perp is down and shooting thru a car and hitting your target is hard to do. thats why so many shots were fired. the perp would have killed someone for sure, remember he was stealing cars at gun point.

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  • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:04am

    Criminals in LA should know by now that they will never get away in a car chase. I have seen too many car chases in LA to know that there is just too much traffic to get away. even if you try to go into residential areas, they have so many choppers in the air, following, that your location is always known. This criminal was not very smart at all. The police probably did our gene pool a favor by getting rid of his bad genes.

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    • Darla_K
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:27am

      Most criminals aren’t very smart at all. They will get caught eventually. I as a tax payer hate having to pay for their stay in jail, and their legal help. We need to make believers out of the criminals so they don’t go right back to breaking the law over and over.

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  • hauschild
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:04am

    One down; a rasher more to go.

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  • nocalifornia
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:03am

    Since when does shooting a car jacking suspect pointing a gun at police qualify as “gunning down” a car jacking suspect? A little loose with your headlines there folks, you might rephrase the caption to read “Police use deadly lethal force to subdue a car jacking subject who pointed a weapon at them”.

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    • neke
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:39am

      If the Cops played by the rules laid out by the MSM’s there would be dead cops all over the country. Oh wait there are dead cops all over the country, good job guys! Moral of the story don’t car jack, and if you do don’t point your gun at the cops when caught. Cops 1/Bad guys 0

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  • momrules
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:59am

    Why didn’t the carjacker throw his gun out the window and come out with his arms raised? I‘ll jump on the police too when I think they did something wrong but this isn’t one of those times.

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  • ShyLow
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:57am

    I think all car-jackers should be shot…whether they are armed or not…I hate a police-state,but a soceity of theives brings this on themselves

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    • lordjosh
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:03am

      Damn, do you mean before or after a conviction by a jury of his peers?

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    • ShyLow
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:12am

      Before they run someone over in the car they just jacked…I’m tired of the lawlessnes

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:55am

    Police pursuit in ‘Koreatown’. Is that racist?

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    • cloudsofwar
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:12am

      only if the cops are white.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:16am

      I sense a ***** in the armour of your political correctness Slayer.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:24am

      A dash of sarcasm is tons of fun.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:29am

      Gonzo rhymes with wink. :)

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:34am

      This PC BS is FUBAR

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    • Thomas Payne
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:34am

      That‘s what it’s called. Look at the signs on the buildings. They are in Korean.

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    • chips1
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:28am

      GONZO:
      Where can I get a copy of all the words that we aren’t allowed to say? They sure remove a lot of the words in the dictionary lately. Next thing they will omit is the word coffee because it offends Juan from Columbia.

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  • conservativejon
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:55am

    i think the suspect was running late to the OWS rally and needed a car.

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:51am

    The perp had a weapon and ignored commands to drop it so the cops dropped him,end of story.You don‘t want to get killed in a gun battle you probably shouldn’t be carjacking.

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    • lordjosh
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:58am

      “gun battle’?????? How many shots did the dead guy fire?

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:09am

      So now they have to wait for the criminal to shoot first Lordjosh? He had already pointed a weapon at the owner of the car. You don‘t do that unless you’re willing to use it.

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    • ShyLow
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:18am

      Looked like 3 or 4 shots coming through the windshield from inside the car…I don’t care if he had a gun or not…car jackers should be sent to meet our heavenly father

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    • Latter-Day-Soldier
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:28pm

      Car-jackers, modern day version of horse-thieves.
      Good thing it didn’t involve any mexican drug gangs or cartel members… otherwise the police may have had a shootout with the other guys blazing away with full-auto weapons, and NO I am NOT exaggerating.

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  • KangarooJack
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:51am

    That poor bystander! Do you think he was more shocked by the shooting or the cost of his gas?

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:50am

    If I get car jacked and shoot the guy as he’s driving away, I go to jail because I was no longer in “imminent danger”. I’m not criticizing the cops here, just the stupid law.

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    • WAR PIGS CRAWLING
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:24am

      I don’t mean to second guess, but couldn‘t you just shoot ’em right away? or are you a sport’n man, and give ‘em a chance to escape and violate again…

      You may want to rethink where in the country you live…..I‘d say you wouldn’t be going to jail…at least not in my county……use of force continuum

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:48am

      If someone surprises you at a light and has a gun in your face, you won‘t get the chance to pull yours until he’s getting in the car. I bet if you check, the law is the same where you live. You may or may not get prosecuted depending on where you live but, I bet the law is on the books.

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    • WAR PIGS CRAWLING
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:05am

      Yeah…..we have two stop lights in the whole county. You ain‘t going to jail for shoot’n a thug during a car jacking at either one of them…..you may, however, be the talk of the town for a while…at least until the fair comes to town.

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  • hempstead1944
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:50am

    Seems a little over the top ? Bet the guy buying gas at this station won’t be back anytime soon !!

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 12:12pm

      I was recently talking with someone about the number of perceived police brutality and “over the top” responses and they brought up an interesting point. Is that number growing because a percentage of law enforcement have reached a point of frustration with the failures in our justice system? Are they making sure the criminal gets some sort of punishment because they know there is a good chance the bad guys will walk on a ridiculous technicality or only receive a slap on the wrist?

      Not saying its a factor or not, but it is an aspect I hadn’t considered.

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  • Baddoggy
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:42am

    The question I have is did he fire a weapon? If not, I think they murdered him. Waving a gun around in the Police State now will get you killed quickly. Judge, jury and exocutioners. Sorry but it was a car jacking, not someone who actually shot a weapon. Brandishing a gun is now a death warrant…sad

    But the good news is a POS is off the streets and I dont have to feed his sorry a@@…I am just worrird about they day that I accidentaly brandish my cell phone and end up like this guy. The Police State is too big!

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    • oldguy49
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:48am

      here in florida we shoot carjackers and save gas on police persuits……..if you steal and have a gun you are fair game……no if you steal you are fair game

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    • conservativejon
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:53am

      when you brandish a weapon at police or innocents during an arrest, you will get shot and you should. at times like that there is no room for hesitation. what if the police hesitated and the suspect shot that guy pumping gas. the police did the right thing and you calling it murder is about the worst thing i have ever heard.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:03am

      He obvioulsy pointed a weapon at the owner to steal the car, when he pointed a gun at somebody, I think it’s safe to assume that he is willing to use it. Why should the police risk their lives and the lives of the other people at the station to find out if he’s willing to use it?

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:19am

      There is a new book out called three felonies a day. It goes into the FACT that YOU as an AMERICAN CITIZEN probably commit 3 felonies a day in your NORMAL life…Just because of regulations….But heck, it will never happen to you. SHEEPLE!!!

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    • bigdaddyt46
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:44am

      The question I have is did he fire a weapon? If not, I think they murdered him. Waving a gun around in the Police State now will get you killed quickly. Judge, jury and exocutioners. Sorry but it was a car jacking, not someone who actually shot a weapon. Brandishing a gun is now a death warrant…sad

      But the good news is a POS is off the streets and I dont have to feed his sorry a@@…I am just worrird about they day that I accidentaly brandish my cell phone and end up like this guy. The Police State is too big!

      yes brandishing a weapon at a police officer is justifible use of deadly force. the officers warned several times and it went unheaded. officers have 1/10th of a second to determine this. with innocent people around they must do what they deem necessary to prevent further loss of life.

      bottom line is this if you are ordered to drop your weapon(or anything that can appear to be a weapon) and you refuse then the officer has a duty to elimante this situation by any means necessary.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:54am

      Baddoggy
      You are correct, I will not die in a hail of police gunfire after stealing a car.

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    • Harry Assenback
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:19am

      OLDGUY……..Grady Judd our Police Chief in Polk County was once asked-”Why did your officers shoot that man over 70 times?” His answer……They ran out of bullets. BTW. That man killed a Police Officer.

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    • chips1
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:38am

      HARRY:
      How did you get Obama to pose for that picture? Do you have connections?

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    • Harry Assenback
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:47am

      CHIPS1- It was easy……you just have to get in the right position so the teleprompters don’t distort the picture.

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    • aliveandwellinGodsCountry
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:02pm

      You really can’t be serious? You make a comment like that without even knowing the first thing about the dirt-bag. Bet he’s got a rap-sheet longer than your arms stretched out. Bet he’s been in and out of jail more times that you can even imagine. This piece of fecal matter didn’t just wake up one day and think to himself, “self, I think I‘ll take Dad’s gun and go see what its like to go jack a car”. “Hey, wait a minute, Self, that was so much fun, I’ll do it a second time..” in the same day!

      Remember a number of years ago when criminals were robbing tourists down in Florida in rental cars? It was so bad that the FBI went to the prisons to interview inmates to find out why. They were told that because of the new gun laws down there, the criminals figured out it was safer to rob people in rental cars leaving airports because they were sure they wouldn’t have a gun and be able to shoot them. We should all be armed and let the dumb-a@@ criminals focus on the flower-picking, koolaid drinking libs.

      Rules are rules and laws are laws, and that’s that! Don’t speed, you’ll get a ticket. Don’t drink and drive, you’ll loose your right to drive. Don’t “brandish” a gun at police offices, you’ll loose your RIGHT TO LIVE! You can’t fix stupid, but I guess in this case the cops actually figured out a way to. BRAVO!!!

      News flash, Nancy Pelosi just issued a statement that if the government had just given him more free money that he wouldn’t have has to ba

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    • aliveandwellinGodsCountry
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:05pm

      Wouldn’t have had to barrow those two cars….

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  • lordjosh
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:41am

    I stand by the cops when they use neccessary force. However, does it seem like lately it’s been a kind of ” if we shoot once, we shoot 30 times to ensure death”?

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:49am

      shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you might wake the sheeple….

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    • constitutionaldirective
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:13am

      Once you have made a decision to fire, you fire until the “threat is eliminated”..

      The cop did his job.. give the man a medal and a larger magazine..!

      I’ve got no respect for armchair LEOs!

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:45am

      30 bullets were a lot cheaper than what his sentencing and jail time would have cost the tax payer.

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    • COFemale
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:33am

      30 shots isn’t unusual. You have 5 or 6 cops shooting 5 or 6 times, not hard to comprehend. Now if it was one cop 20-30 rounds, then I could see it might be a little over kill, but until you know how many actually hit the target, you can’t judge the number of rounds.

      I am just glad we got one more criminal off the street.

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    • jpschaeffer
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:31pm

      when the police decide to shoot its shoot to kill only!!!there is now such thing as shoot to wound!
      so it doesn’t matter how many bullets are fired… the goal to to stop the criminal completely

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    • Ars21689
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 7:02pm

      Cofemale stop making sense man. Did you people happen to see there were several cops standing around the car. So if each one fired 5 times that would be between 30-35 shots. 5 shots is hardly excessive.

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  • conservativejon
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:40am

    WOW even knowing it was going to happen, it was still shocking. going to give the police the benefit of doubt on this one. this is what happenes when you still a car and point a weapon at police and bystanders. i feel bad for the guy pumping gas.

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  • eatmyshorts
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:38am

    Good….the “suspect” will never car jack again.

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    • GumRock
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:53am

      Exactly!
      We are not talking about Speeding on the highway where you risk getting a ticket.
      this Idiot Put a Gun in the face of a “Victim” threatening Death !
      then took over that persons Property and used it as a deadly weapon to everyone around him as he
      recklessly drove thru town with no regards to who he may Kill in the Pursuit of what ever goal he was intending.
      not will only his Death prevent him from doing that again, hopefully it will prevent another Idiot from doing this in the future knowing there are cops out there that will Kill em for doing so .

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  • MONICNE
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:38am

    That was better than a movie. A good execution is a good way to save court costs, but that gentleman’s automobile will be in the body shop for a while. Pity.
    \
    TEA

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    • drago
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:43am

      encinom, did you not take your lithium this morning? F-n lunatic pos….

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    • scuba13
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:26pm

      More hot air from Encinoms blow-up doll.

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  • Pointman308
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:37am

    He was just misunderstood that all! Those cruel cruel cops should be willing to take a bullet so they can better understand what was bothering this young man. Why cant we all just get along?

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  • USPATRIOT101
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:33am

    Go get yourself some fresh ammo guys, nice shootin’.

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    • Darla_K
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:07am

      That is right….Get the garbage off the streets and save the tax payers some money while you are at it.

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