‘Shots Fired! Shots Fired!’ Dash-Cam Rolls as Man Opens Fire on Police
- Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:21am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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Police in Tomah, WI have been cleared after they shot and killed a man who opened fire on them during a wild police chase at the end of April. One of the officers was hurt in the incident, which was all captured on a police cruiser’s dash-cam:
The Toma Journal reports the man was suspected of double-digit drive-by shootings in Wisconsin and Illinois:
The Monroe County District Attorney has determined four Tomah police officers acted appropriately last month when they killed a man who shot at them during a traffic stop. District Attorney Dan Cary said Tuesday the officers acted with “tremendous courage in the face of life-threatening gunfire” April 22 when they fatally shot 28-year-old Seth M. McCloskey of Ohio.
On administrative leave since the shooting, the officers have been cleared to return to work as early as Thursday.
McCloskey was a suspect in an earlier drive-by shooting in Tomah in which no one was hurt. Police have said he may be linked to as many as 10 other seemingly random drive-by shootings across Wisconsin and Illinois.
Authorities held a press conference Tuesday where they released squad car video footage of the Tomah shooting that shows McCloskey calmly exit his truck, point a handgun directly at police and open fire moments after being pulled over on Saratoga Street.



















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ChiefGeorge
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:15amThis is what happens when people see they have nothing worth living for. I wonder what pushed this man to this extreme? Has society marginalized him to the point he sees no point? Just wondering!
Report Post »captac1
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 2:26pmWhat a load of liberal bullsh*t….how about responsibility for one’s self?
Report Post »kj95376
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:08amHey Sinista Mace,
You sound just lie a PIMP. Are you upset the police shut down your HO TRAIN?
I am sure you have been on the wrong side of the law, and of course it was the MANS fault right.
KJ
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:17amrotflmfao @ “ho-train”
ahaha
that was original
Listen, I don’t have to have a negative experience with lae enforcement to reach my conclusion.
All I have to do is research with the least effort and I find example after example of police demonstrating a contempt and hostility for the general public.
Report Post »yippeya
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 7:52pmNo, Sinista MACE has valid points, lots of dirty, thug police out there. I’m not a lefty, but I’m not blind. I’ll take care of my own security. They think they are above the law, it only applies to us. they never get speeding tickets or DUIs, it “have a nice day, brother”. They lie, cheat and steal. Once in awhile the put themselves in danger, big deal. I also don’t dislike them, or like them. I just don’t trust them. If you don’t like my opinion, blow it out your arse.
http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/
Report Post »TheGreyPiper
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:03amIt’s tough, but let’s avoid feeding the trolls, k? They’re like park pigeons, all it does is encourage and embolden them. And they still circle back and shht on your head.
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:30amyea,yaw, another uneducated stupid moron or should i say one less, okay two less the neo nazi is dead to. the way these idiots are going, the left will be out of dumb butts to do their dirty work, this is going well, they will eat themselves and we did not have to raise a hand.
Report Post »nomercy63
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:25amIt is sad that this is what our country has become. This is happening to often police or suspect. Something has to change we are letting our streets become war zones what is next we are going to have daily body counts it is just getting worse and worse. England police do not even carry guns and they have a 10th of the crime we have here. It is like dirty harry everyday. I am glad the police were not hurt and I feel for the family that lost their son.
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:40am@nomercy63, unfortunately this is the way it is, when you have the likes of van jones getting into schools and teaching kids that they don’t have to respect their parents,and that they don’t have to trust the police, they have been taught that the police are out to get them no matter what they might have done, just watch cops pov and you will see how the police were called to a crime scene where a young black man had been gun down, then the whole apartment comply tried to destroy the scene by running through it, all the while calling the police names threating to kill them and the police were asking them to get back ,so they could preserve the scene and help find out who killed this young man, but the crowd still did not want to leave aftre a while they did but the damage had been done, this is what they are being taught, no respect ,so we can all thank the left and the likes of van jones and the parents of these kids.
Report Post »krenshau
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:59amThey do not have a tenth of the crime. They have more crime. I know people from there and they say most crime goes unreported because the police won’t do anything, or can’t. Guns are not the problem, people are.
Report Post »Thomas Payne
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:13pmIndeed. The crime rate is higher in the UK per capita than in the US. Does the US have more violence using guns? Yes. But the UK has more violence with knives, swords, axes, baseball bats, chainsaws, etc.
Report Post »lynnissmart
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:24amThink about this….it’s exactly what the admin. has ordered….unfortunately, under this admin., everything that is good is bad, and everything that is bad is good….this admin’s commie obamie motto.,
Report Post »tnturner
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:20amI wonder how many people were in the houses in the background.
Report Post »busdriverrock
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:20amthe police did the right thing god bless them
Report Post »timej31
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:14amprogressive
Report Post »busdriverrock
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:13amthank you officers you did the right thing. god bless you
Report Post »tmplarnite
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:05amYou reap what you sow…What a dumb Arse!
Report Post »blazingaway
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:00amWhat a dumb ass, the guy thinks he‘s a smart ass cop killer and the dumb ass doesn’t even put the truck in park when he gets out. Off it goes, leaving him to run after it, exposing his big dumb ass for target practice.
Report Post »Realman30
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:57amGlad no one bit the dirt but the criminal.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:52amThe msm will probably find a tenuous link to the tea party.
Report Post »EXLIB
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:59amnot likely…he asked for it and got what he deserved. This clown WAS a loser!
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:21amOK I will buy that. what about the AZ shooter? He is a mentally ill loser and the msm tried to tie him to the TEA party…
Report Post »TheGreyPiper
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:01amStoic: he tried to shoot cops. That makes him a hero of the Left, along with Mumbo Abo Jumbo or whatever tf his name is, in Philadelphia.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:52amThe Police do act stupidly, case and point, punching a woman in the face in an IHOP.
Executing Oscar Grant in public.
Beating Rodney King within an inch of his life.
The POTUS Acts stupidly too, and thinks WE’RE stupid too, because he says that, then turns around and gives the stupid police MY tax dollars in stimulus to “create or save” their jobs in the interest of “public safety”.
They will never be able to make the public safe. The streets are a mess, and they always claim they need more money more money more money to make us safe…even basically safe. The police increasingly exist for state and city revenue enhancement, nothing more. They will soon be replaced with automated panopticon cameras watching your every move, UAVS, and perhaps androids.
9-11 was an inside job.
Report Post »DJ Sardaukar
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:10amI think you are at the wrong website, buddy. I believe Alex Jones’ site is http://www.infowars.com
Go spew your nonsense there.
Report Post »Hank919
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:14amCan’t fix stupid.
Report Post »Diablo4965
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:28amI knew there was something wrong with you from your f ‘ed up posts, just another dumb azz truther!
Report Post »jblovesAmerica
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:32amwhen you see the incident from the start-very different picture. Police have far better things to do than roll around in the dirt with dumb asses.
Report Post »3 other men in the car with Rodney-never saw the cops baton-sent home.why?
nothing good happens after 2AM-
Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:07amI know you don’t like it.
I don’t care.
You can’t do anything about it except throw your pathetic juvenile insults around.
Losers.
I was here before you were, and I‘ll be here when you aren’t.
Report Post »txn4justice
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:43amBlessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of scoffers; but his delight is in the law of the Lord
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:51pmResistance to tyranny is obedience to God.
Report Post »John0397
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 1:27pmSinista – your IHOP example doesn’t hold water. There was no brutality involved there, and no rights were violated either. That officer responded as he should have. He was in the process of trying to arrest a woman who was resisting. The dumb second woman decided to involve herself, assulted the officer, nearly scratching his eye out and he responded to the threat by taking her down. You do not interfere with a police officer period, much less assult one.
Rule number 1 for officers, if you have to go hands on, win. Be able to go home at the end of your shift. Once a threat is minimized, the force level is diminished.
You will see examples of bad police officers online, but hey, that’s a biased viewpoint. People love to show bad things online, but what you will not see is the thousands of interactions officers have everyday that are professional and cordial. Not all cops are bad or act unprofessionally. Officers deal with the worst of society, those who commit crimes or have intentions on hurting others. To say that all officers are bad because of a few bad examples is ignorant. They have one of the toughest jobs to do dealing with idiots who commit crimes and question the very authority of the officers duties. Officers know your rights better than you, they have to, because they have less rights than regular citizens. Most officers are the most professional and responsible members their profession, and the bad apples rub them wrong too. The good officers would love nothing more than to expunge the bad officers from their ranks, because the bad ones make their job tougher because of the perceptions that get cast upon them all.
Just remember, you want to have a good experience in dealing with the police?? Be respectful and courteous, you will find the officers will inkind do the same.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 2:39pmJohn0397
In regards to the IHOP incident, that’s your opinion. It’s valid.
I have a different opinion, equally valid.
I know what my eyes saw, and you can’t change that.
“You will see examples of bad police officers online, but hey, that’s a biased viewpoint.”
Um..the camera isn’t biased. And it doesn’t lie.
“People love to show bad things online, but what you will not see is the thousands of interactions officers have everyday that are professional and cordial.”
The police and government makes the argument to disarm us and violate everyone’s rights at the terminal, and put a camera on everybody because some people speed, and take away an officer’s burden of proof in speeding tickets…based on what some bad people do, and it doesn’t yield to the same logic. They forge right on ahead with their Police State Panopticon.
Tsa crotch groping, coming to a train station and street near you.
Don’t hand me you “cops are awesome and they protect us and put their lives on the line everyday” garbage. They don’t risk themselves any more than any civilian who gets up and goes to work daily and pays their taxes. And they agree to get paid what they get paid to dodge bullets, so I have no sympathy for them. It doesn’t make them better than me, or deserve any extra deference than me, it makes them stupid in my opinion. It doesn’t make them brave or courageous or any of that garbage.
Report Post »John0397
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 3:17pm“”In regards to the IHOP incident, that’s your opinion. It’s valid.
Report Post »>>Yep, it’s my opinion based on the three videos I saw of the incident.<>Open to interpretation, but I’ll let it slide.<>I am a video producer. Yes the camera can lie and I can debunk your statement in less than 15 seconds.<>So it sounds like your beef is with politicians, federal cops and government created security. No argument from me, the TSA is ridiculous.
Speed cameras are a different issue as well, usually put in place by counties and states that seem to have revenue problems, usually democrat run. Don’t speed.
The police can‘t do anything that the politicians don’t allow them to do. They only enforce the laws and ordinances passed by the politicians.<>Please point to the location in my reply where I used those words.<>Um…. that’s a bit silly…. the typical civilian goes to their jobs and faces 1 job to do. Officers hit the streets everyday and deal with traffic accidents, alarm calls, robberies, larcenies, murders, rapes, suicides, domestic fights, school fights, child abuse calls… the list goes on. Point is each call is different, the situational dynamics are different, each one could pose a danger to the life of that officer.<>again with the opinions…… I’ll cede you your opinion. Mine… I have empathy for them, they see and deal with some of the toughest human experiences that most of us will never have to deal with. The do their jobs to the best of their abilities to serve and protect every citizen, even those who hold them in contempt. They have my
John0397
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 3:24pmrespect.
gotta love the reformatting of my message….not.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:43pmWell, my opinion, based on the multitude of examples freely available for public viewing just on the internet, not even counting the numerous incidents that go unreported, is that the police as an institution have a contempt and hostility towards the general public.
Just because you are a video producer doesn’t mean that you can change what my eyes saw.
You say don’t speed, but don’t acknowledge the fact that the cameras are fallible, inaccurate, and are in the interest of the city/state to be that way to increase citations. Humans are also fallible, but that didn’t stop the Supreme Court from giving them the right to write tickets out the wazoo based on visual observation. You also don’t acknowledge the fact that officers are assuming new powers without any legislation, such as having no burden of proof in speeding cases, just because the corrupt Supreme Court rules that they don’t have a burden of proof, totally contrary to established law.
“Case law” is destroying this country, and subjecting civilians to the law of man, instead of the law of the land.
“The police can‘t do anything that the politicians don’t allow them to do. They only enforce the laws and ordinances passed by the politicians.”
Which usually means “selective enforcement” and “probable cause”, a deliberately ambiguous grey area in which police consistently violate citizen’s rights legally at their discretion. Politicians and police are corrupt. They complement each other.
I’m sorry, police have one job. What it entails is their responsibility, and they have never demonstrated a competence at doing it. The streets are a mess. They don’t deserve any more deference than the average worker who goes to work daily and pays their taxes. They work for us. We don’t work for them. They provide a service for pay.
I have more respect for the average citizen than the police. The average citizen aren’t preying on me for revenue and sitting under ther billboard preying on other motorists with my tax dollars.
Report Post »John0397
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 8:09amNow Sinista, you will have to look at my words again and the response. I never said I would change your mind about what you saw. You have seen what you want to see based on your biases. I merely said I can debunk your statement that cameras don’t lie.
Moving on…your opinion that the streets are a mess may be valid where you are, where I am at, the police do a pretty decent job. I will also acknowledge that where “the streets” are bad is also where you find the pervasive street culture, where fractured families are, the low income woe is me crowd who don’t look to themselves to improve their lives, but look to goverment to improve their status. The neighborhoods where “snitches get stitches”.
You are right in the sense that a more armed and responsible society would help reduce crimes. I will say that a more proactive and forthcoming society will help the police clean up the streets. But it is what it is as long as people feel they are above the law and take matters in their own hands, and hold the sworn officials in contempt.
Blanket characterizations that Politicians and police are corrupt are ignorant. Yes there is corruption in politics and police, but it is small compared to the total. You wouldn’t make a statement that blacks are criminals because a portion might be. You wouldn’t make the statement that whites are racists based on the idiots of the KKK. Or maybe you would, I don’t know. We’ll agree to disagree…. thanks for the civil conve
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:02amNo, John, YOU saw what YOU wanted to see based on YOUR biases. The rest of us saw a big bully punching a little white woman in the face like a man.
” I merely said I can debunk your statement that cameras don’t lie.”
And I merely say you’re off your rocker.
The police state that they can do the job, but can NEVER do the job, and are always crying for more taxpayer money and expansion of powers to help them do their job that they’re supposed to be professional at.
“the low income woe is me crowd who don’t look to themselves to improve their lives” is exactly where the police are needed most based on their logic, and there’s their real challenge, but they have MISERABLY FAILED at that challenge. It’s easy to sit under a billboard in a high income suburb and eat donuts all damn day and write tickets. Lord forbid that the cops ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO SOME COP WORK…
“a more proactive and forthcoming society will help the police clean up the streets.”
NOBODY trusts the Police, except you, other police, and their family members and friends. That’s not because of me, it’s because of THEM and THEIR HISTORY. As long as the police feel they are above the law, and that they ARE the law, and take matters into their own hands such as executing Oscar Grant, tackling a bike rider, dogwalking and beating a man for having an unzipped jacket, holding a contempt and hostility for the public, people will continue not to trust them.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:08amPoliticians and police are corrupt. My prerogative, my opinion. Any corruption in these two institutions is NEVER small, and it is too frequent and widespread to even be considered small by any measure.
I wouldn’t make a statement that blacks are criminal because the black people are a group of INDIVIDUALS to be considered INDIVIDUALLY, and law enforcement agencies are INSTITUTIONS to be judged by the history of that institution.
I wouldn’t make the statement that whites are racist because of the KKK, but the KKK as an INSTITUTION is racist, and I can make that statement.
Report Post »John0397
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:53amNow I see a bit more about your distrust of the police. Are your biases rooted in the fact you are on the left coast? I will concede that there have been a lot of issues out there… and I won’t speak to those. I will concede to you that from what I skimmed over, the Oscar Grant case was entirely a bad situation. As I understand that case, he was shot by a TRANSIT cop (glorified security guard), not an actual POLICE officer. BIG difference there. Different training involved there. You have a beef with officers doing traffic enforcement (their job) writing tickets instead of doing what? You do know that most felony arrests happen because of traffic stops? Criminals drive too.
As institutions, there can be a healthy level of distrust of members of the institution, but not the institution as a whole. And it is hard for segments or departments to earn back trust, probably rightfully so when things happen to tarnish them. I don’t give 100% trust to anyone or anything, unless it has been proven to me that it or they deserve it.
Look, I’ve done this, maybe you should too. If you are able to, go to your local police department and ask to do a ride along with an officer. It’s definitely an educational experience. What they deal with everyday is real life, not scripted “reality TV”, or cop dramas or movies. You’ll actually see the constraints they have in their jobs and hear for yourself their opinions on what regard they hold the citizens they serve.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 1:29pmI don’t know what you mean, am I on the “left coast”…I’m a right-leaning Conservative Libertarian, from the Midwest…
“he was shot by a TRANSIT cop (glorified security guard), not an actual POLICE officer.”
Civilians don’t make that distinction, they perform the same powers as if they are on the force, in Cleveland they write the same tickets on the same paper that CPD does, civilians don’t make that distinction. They are assuming the same powers arbitrarily that Police Officers do, and they’re being federalized and working with TSA.
“You do know that most felony arrests happen because of traffic stops?”
That’s a problem, if they are getting more felony arrests from traffic stops then actually going out in the neighborhood and seeking and arresting criminals, then they aren’t doing their jobs, and there‘s more felonies occurring elsewhere that they are missing because they’re preying on motorists.
“As institutions, there can be a healthy level of distrust of members of the institution, but not the institution as a whole.”
So you like the KKK, then…
Who are you to decide for me what criteria I can use to draw my own conclusions? That’s MY prerogative.
“If you are able to, go to your local police department and ask to do a ride along with an officer.”
No ty, I’ve already done that against my will, I’ll never subject myself to being in their presence willingly. I stay the hell out of their way.
My father was a cop, and QU
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 1:31pmThis comment limit is stupid.
My dad was a cop and quit the force because of the atrocities he witnessed at their hands in the 80s.
Report Post »John0397
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 2:04pmAh, ok, midwest guy. Sorry my assumption from you bringing up and Oakland example…..
“Civilians don’t make that distinction”
I am a civilian, and I do make that distiction… I also follow laws and don’t give law enforcement officers crap for doing their jobs. I follow directions if told. Ok, so Cleveland aint the best example of fine policing…. a product of the local government, and the officials in place to run the force.
“That’s a problem, if they are getting more felony arrests from traffic stops then actually going out in the neighborhood and seeking and arresting criminals, then they aren’t doing their jobs, and there‘s more felonies occurring elsewhere that they are missing because they’re preying on motorists.”
So… you want officers to be more proactive and patrol in areas looking for criminals….. they do indeed patrol, and are dispatched when someone calls for them…. but I would tend to think that if officers were constantly flooding neighborhoods, the residents would be howling “profiling” or harrassment. It’s not like they wear signs that say “I’m a criminal, arrest me!” And don’t get me started on the ambush angle.
“So you like the KKK, then…”
That’s the most assanine or absurd statement you could ever make. That’s like me saying you like the Westboro Baptists…. absurd. I despise racists.
So your dad quit in the 80′s, I am sure a lot has changed in the 20 to 30 years since he left. Todays society
Report Post »John0397
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 2:13pmis sue happy, not so much in the 1980′s
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 6:00pm“I also follow laws and don’t give law enforcement officers crap for doing their jobs. I follow directions if told.”
Just like a good little sheep. Now bend over and give me two good coughs.
“a product of the local government, and the officials in place to run the force.”
Excuses, excuses. It’s NATIONWIDE, sir. Nationwide.
“you want officers to be more proactive and patrol in areas looking for criminals”
My point is they cannot do the job they are tasked with doing. Unable. Too many civilians. They would need one cop for each civilian, or a Panopticon Police State.
“It’s not like they wear signs that say “I’m a criminal, arrest me!”
Well, if they are incapable of performing their duties without profiling, harassment, brutality, and violation of civil rights…then…maybe they ought to flip burgers or something, struggle to find a real job like the rest of America instead of lobbying my legislators for more power to write tickets and more public contributions to their pensions, and stop trying to play Superman.
You despise the KKK as an institution?
Can I despise the police as an institution?
“I am sure a lot has changed in the 20 to 30 years since he left.”
Yea, a lot more instances of police brutality. New Gestapo weapons to use on the civilians. New authorities, consolidation, collaboration, regionalization and federalization.
Report Post »John0397
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 1:21pmWell thanks for the conversation. After reading more of your posts, I see where your ideaology comes from. It gives me a good chuckle. Good Luck with the rest of your life.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 2:05pmI hope you‘re still chuckling when they’re beating you upside the head and yelling at you to “Get on the Bus, slave!”.
Report Post »John0397
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 4:48pmSee, that’s funny!
Report Post »Mobus
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:51amThis guy’s an idiot, along with Sinister Mace or whatever the crap his stupid gangster name is.
Report Post »leftcoastslut
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:42amas the economy gets worse, this behavior will become worse. not saying this guy was right, but the obituary probably says something like, survived my his wife of 10 years, who works as a hostess at the local strip club, McClosky has been unemployed for two years, his benfits have run out, they were evicted from their foreclosed house back in february, his two vehicles were reposessed in march and his three children will become “good little soilders” as they have been placed by the state in some foster program. sad sad sad,
look at your friends and relatives maybe they too are falling into the black hole of dispair.
Report Post »TheGreyPiper
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:59amWell said. Impeach Obama NOW!
Report Post »ozchambers
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:14amThe guy had been implicated in vehicle thefts and multiple shootings before this incident. There is never an excuse for violence against innocent people. This guy deserved it. Those police officers are dads & sons, brothers & uncles. I dont care if half the population is homeless, a man is responsible for his behavior, regardless. I feel no pity for him after engaging in that behavior.
Report Post »WINNEBAGOMAN
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:42amI‘m glad this wasn’t a repeat of Fond du Lac! God bless you boys in blue!
Report Post »Whiskey One Seven
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:41amThanks officers. Good shoot.
Report Post »Entropy
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 2:12pmThere will always be people who do not like cops and there will always be others who have been indoctrinated to think that the govt is always right. That is just the way it is. It is futile to argue.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:37amI guess if you’re dumb enough to get in a shoot out with the cops, jumping out of your truck with it still in drive shouldn’t be a surprise.
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:35amHe was delivering Trumkas lunch. Dont mess with my collective eating rights.
Report Post »WAR PIGS CRAWLING
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:31amTwinkie, Twinkie, Cupcake kinda day…..Good job guys….you did what needed to be done under extreme conditions…keep up the good work.
Report Post »pavnvet
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:30amGood for the cops. Now you see why cops have Glocks.
Report Post »BlazingInSC
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:33pmGlocks are inherently unsafe, and like to jam up all too often. Give me a Wilson CQB over a Glock any day of the week!
Report Post »pavnvet
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 7:35pmGee I was just at the range today and fired 240 rounds from my Glock. Not one misfire. I better return it, something must be wrong. Not many folks can afford a Wilson CQB. However, I still don’t think it is 3 1/2 times the gun for 3 1/2 times the price of a Glock.
Report Post »Warphead
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:29amAnother one bites the dust, hey, hey.
Report Post »starman70
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:24amShoot at the Police and see what you get. This guy didn’t have the guts to shoot himself, he wanted suicide by cop.
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:30amYou nailed it.
Report Post »Whitey4West
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:30amglad none of the cops got hurt…
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:31amGlad hes dead. No money for a trial. Just a pine box and a hole. Too bad we had to spend 100.00 on ammo.
Report Post »wildjoker5
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:37amThis is what happens when you have a POTUS that thinks the “police act stupidly”.
Report Post »sissykatz
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:42amNow why would he come out shooting like that. Maybe it was suicide by cop but why would he be trying to kill them. he was wanting them to do him a favor. I swear I just do no understand some people any more. This entire world has turned upside down. Glad he got killed if that was what he wanted. Yes it will be less expensive for everyone involved. He probably had a couple of children at home waiting for him.
Report Post »greggor
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:49am@sinista…
Are you suggesting you would have approved if this shooter had better aim and killed a cop?
Report Post »starman70
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:52am@ SINISTER MACE
I hope you don‘t harbor your resentment when your home is being invaded by thugs and your children are being slaughtered such as the doctor’s family in Connectecut. If you read the story, this man had a long list of arrests and jail sentances. He would have been glad to sacrifice you or your family in order to keep from being arrested. Just picture your teenage son or daughter going shopping or at a younger age just playing in the yard. Just imagine that when this guy fired at the police FIRST and he missed, one of HIS bullets striking your child and killing him or her.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:53amGreggor, you said that.
I didn’t.
Report Post »greggor
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:01am@sinista
You referred to the cop(s) as “piglets”.
Am I supposed to come away with a different opinion than the one you just expressed?
I don’t get it.
Report Post »Love Bandit Bestid
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:02amouch, I hate when that happens.
Report Post »greggor
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:05am@sinista
And for the record.. I did NOT say that. I politely asked if that was what you meant.
Your obvious hatred of police is pathetic. You give an example or two where cops acted
inappropriately, and come away with they are all bad?
Are you really that ignorant?
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:05amstarman70
Ohio has Castle Law.
I pity the fool who kicks my door or window.
If we all were armed, stupid incidents like this wouldn’t happen to start with, or would be nullified very quickly.
We can respond way faster than the police, with more manpower and firepower.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:07amGreggor
I said what I said and you can take it how you want.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:09amGreggor, you want more examples?
Google police brutality.
Multiple “hits”.
lol
I’m not here to do your research for you and make up your mind for you.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:14amI don’t hate the police.
I don’t love them either.
I don’t like what they do.
Report Post »jblovesAmerica
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:27am@mace-
Report Post »brutality by police??if you never put yourself in that position you can never be in that position.
3 other black males in Rodney Kings car-ever hear fro them?
break the law here they come-Law enforcement the fine line between freedom and chaos.
go to work-take care of your family-go to church-you may never even talk to COPS.
one count you are on point-everyone has a firearm-peace in the valley for sure.
GreekConservative
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:52amMace’s meth stash must have been discovered and now his diaper is full. Poor, sad little freak.
Report Post »TheGreyPiper
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:58amNah, I think he was just an idiot.
Report Post »Tyr
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:02amI understand where sinsta mace is coming from. I don’t hate the police either, I just have no use for their methods. You folks seem to think that cops are always in the right. Truth is that a majority of the time they are in the wrong and work within a corrupt system that allows them to unquestionably violate your Rights guaranteed under the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Example: Driving home at 2:30AM from the hospital after sitting with a sick child. I get pulled over, for no apparent reason. First thing the cop says is “Sir, have you beed drinking tonight?” Of course I hadn’t. I then do the whole “show us your papers” Gestapo routine. I answer the 20 questions including where am I going, where have I been, if I have a job. Then the “do you mind if I look through your car, Sir”. At that point resistance is futile. If you say “No” the cop is not going to just say “very well Sir, have a nice evening”. I allowed the search, I was never informed why I was stopped. I didn‘t push the issue either because I didn’t care to be peppersprayed and beaten.
Cops are not corrupt, but they work within a Facist system, and they love the power it gives them to violate your rights and treat you like less than a citizen.
With that said, The cops did nothing wrong shooting this guy. But I assure you that if an armed citizen had defended himself from this gun wielding kook, he would have been facing manslaughter charges.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:15amjblovesAmerica
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:27am
@mace-
brutality by police??if you never put yourself in that position you can never be in that position.
Hey JB. Are you sure about that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kInReukWy1E
Are you REALLY sure about that?
http://wn.com/Critical_Mass_Bike_rider_Attacked_By_NYPD_officer
“GreekConservative
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:52am
Mace’s meth stash must have been discovered and now his diaper is full. Poor, sad little freak.”
That’s expected from police, their familiy members, and supporters in general, the same LAME, WEAK argument – “You must have had some negative experience with Law Enforcement.”
Irrelevant. I can reach a valid conclusion based on the multiple incidents of police brutality against civilians.
Report Post »D0ntTread0nMe
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:15amI prefer most low-lifes have the stupidity to act like this… we spend a lot less on 20 bullets… then 20 years in jail…
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ozchambers
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:23amSo, a guy who has been involved in multiple shootings, driving a stolen vehicle gets pulled over by a police vehicle immediately steps out of the vehicle and attempts to murder the police officers. They were doing their job, protecting OUR rights to keep our private property and to stop this guy from doing it again.
Report Post »And a couple of mental midgets think this is the appropriate time to discuss abuse of power by the police? Dont look but your ignorant hatred is showing.
TSUNAMI-22
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:41amCops = 1
A-hole = 0
Period.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:43amIf civilians were exercizing their right to bear arms openly, this wouldn’t happen, the man would’ve been shot down long before he got stopped by a cop, or he wouldn’t have done what he did in the first place knowing civilians would off him.
Oz you’re the mental midget who depends on the cops to protect you.
You’re a self-defense midget.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:21pmLucky that car in the background didn’t get a stray bullet. Another bad guy down. Definitely no question on whether or not it was a justified shooting.
Report Post »Tyr
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:43pmozchambers
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:23am
“a couple of mental midgets think this is the appropriate time to discuss abuse of power by the police?”
I think anytime police are involved in any incident is a good time to discuss their abuse of power. As I said, in this case the police did nothing wrong. My point was that a free people do not need or deserve a police force that has carte blanche to violate the rights of common, law abidding citizens. They do it everyday during the normal conduct of their day-to-day activities. Funny thing, I always assumed that it was Conservatives that were concerned with violations of Constitutional matters and it was the Liberals that were concerned with things that struck them as emotional issues that they viewed as wrong. I am beginning to realize that neither of them REALLY care about the simple everyday, God given Rights afforded us.
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 1:09pmIf civilians were exercizing their right to bear arms openly, this wouldn’t happen, the man would’ve been shot down long before he got stopped by a cop, or he wouldn’t have done what he did in the first place knowing civilians would off him.
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So Sinista wants to go back to the “Wild, Wild, West”. Gun duels in the streets and all.
Report Post »BuyAgun
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 1:23pmIf the behavior is tolerated the behavior will continue…We cannot complain about what we tolerate…
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 2:42pmPajamash
You’re brainwashed to even think that chaos and wild west behavior would ensue.
Crime drops drastically if citizens exercize their rights to bear arms openly.
You wouldn’t need any police except for the most basic of things…helping old ladies cross the street, helping the neighbor corral their escaped pet…
Report Post »ozchambers
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:36pm@TYR: I disagree completely that any story that mentions a police officer in any way is an appropriate forum to discuss police brutality. An appropriate place would be a story that illustrates such an act, or where the behavior was at least in question. Pulling over a reported stolen vehicle is not a violation of anything.
@SINISTARD: I do not rely on the police to “protect me”. I have the equipment and ability to protect myself and my family. Except in rare cases, the police arrive AFTER the crime has been committed and they begin the important work of attempting to stop the criminal before he/she perpetrates another crime. Like in the story above for instance. I suppose you are too ignorant to see the value in that. I saw your original post which was deleted where you snidely commented that “next time they (the police) will get shot in their little piglet face.” You are like the racists who pin the crimes of the very few upon the very many. You are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
Report Post »pitboss711
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:37pmThe dumbass didn’t even have enough sense to put the truck in park. The world is minus one more idiot today. No big loss!
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:53pmYou’re brainwashed to even think that chaos and wild west behavior would ensue.
Crime drops drastically if citizens exercize their rights to bear arms openly.
You wouldn’t need any police except for the most basic of things…helping old ladies cross the street, helping the neighbor corral their escaped pet…
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To think that by wearing a gun that voilence mysterioulsy subsides is such a misnomer. There is a reason they called it the “Wild West”. Lawlessness was very much a part of life back then and wearing guns was predominant. If, by wearing guns, people are disuaded from doing harm then why isn’t that period in American History called “The Calm West”.
I am all for American citizens being able to own firearms but I am quite happy with the police being the primary source of holding law and order. You are blowing the incidents that have happened way out of proportion. My experience has been that those that “protect and serve” are very upstanding individuals. Sadly there are a small percentage that are not. The system weeds out those that are “bad apples” eventually.
Report Post »swampbuck
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 5:47pmDitto…
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 7:58pmOZCHAMBERS
“Except in rare cases, the police arrive AFTER the crime has been committed and they begin the important work of attempting to stop the criminal before he/she perpetrates another crime.”
…Which would be less likely to happen if more citizens were exercizing their right to bear arms openly. The citizens can respond faster than the police.
I never said ““next time they (the police) will get shot in their little piglet face.”
I said SOMETIMES they do.
“You are like the racists who pin the crimes of the very few upon the very many.”
No, you see, the police are not a race, they are an institution, and should be judged by the history of that institution, which, whether you like it or not, shows an overwhelming contempt and hostility towards the general public.
Pajamash, you said:
“To think that by wearing a gun that voilence mysterioulsy subsides is such a misnomer.”
I didn’t say that at all, but the police sure thinks that the brandishing of their weapons and their presence does exactly that, and apparently, so do you.
So what would an entire populace of armed citizens openly carrying create? More security, or less? Are you assuming that the populace in general are violent criminals who aren’t capable of being responsible with a firearm in public?
Your argument falls apart.
The Wild West was called that because it was largely unsettled – hence wild and was called variously the Old West, Far West, and Wild West – and was being exploited and settled by those believing in Manifest Destiny, driving the indians from their land and settling it.
Well whadayaknow, here we are in 2011, and we’re still going around the world sparking wars and nation building, setting up bases.
“I am all for American citizens being able to own firearms but I am quite happy with the police being the primary source of holding law and order.”
Good for you. I’m not willing, nor have I agreed, to delegate that authority to the police. The Law is order. They are Law Enforcement. We as citizens also have a duty to uphold the law and the right to bear arms. Therefor we are Law Enforcement also. We all have the power to arrest.
“My experience has been that those that “protect and serve” are very upstanding individuals. Sadly there are a small percentage that are not. The system weeds out those that are “bad apples” eventually.”
Well, that’s your personal experience. I think there is a large percentage of those who violate citizens’ rights regularly, based on the multitude of incidents over the history of the institution. My observation is that in terms of law enforcement in general, from federal down to local, they have a history of SEEKING and PROMOTING the most violent individuals and celebrate it as tough-cop-ness.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 8:10pmhe forgot to put in park, oh well, the police parked him instead, at the morgue!
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