Should California Abolish the Death Penalty to Save Taxpayer Dollars?
- Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:08pm by
Billy Hallowell
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When it comes to ongoing values debates, the death penalty is one issue that rates right alongside abortion and gay marriage for its ability to incite controversy and heated chatter. As states like California grapple with deficits and accumulated debt, discussions regarding the cost of the death penalty versus lifetime imprisonment are beginning to emerge.
California, a state that finds itself in dire financial straits, is facing some tough choices. According to CNN, the state currently finds itself with a $26 billion deficit. With leaders looking to cut costs wherever possible, they have begun to examine the expenditures associated with executing criminals.
Since 1978, the state has spent $4 billion in taxpayer funds to execute 13 criminals; this works out to about $308 million per execution. CNN Money has more:
…without substantial changes, the state’s total bill will expand to $9 billion by 2030, according to a new study by federal appeals Judge Arthur Alarcón and Paula Mitchell, his law clerk and a professor at Loyola Law School.
The situation is now so severe, voters must choose to pay higher taxes or abolish the death penalty, the authors say.
In case you were wondering, the backlog of inmates on death-row is staggeringly large. Currently, 714 people are awaiting execution. In addition to insanely-long wait times, the aforementioned study also finds that prosecuting death penalty cases costs $184 million more each year than handling those cases that seek life without parole. Watch below for more on this important issue:
While costs are certainly a factor, one must understand that the primary death penalty debate surrounds the morality of the procedure itself. When someone takes another human being’s life, does that person, regardless of cost, deserve to suffer the same fate?
It is certainly easy to look at finances to weigh whether the death penalty is or is not cost effective, but it is an entirely different undertaking to analyze the moral imperatives some believe lay present when murder takes place.
Where do you stand on the death penalty? If it is cheaper to simply keep people in prison for life, do you think that’s the way to go?
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Comments (171)
wordweaver
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 2:06pmOnly in America can we drag out the process so long and make it cost so much. There are any number of third world nations that could give us some money-saving tips, I am sure. Of course, all joking aside, what makes it cost so much is that most state governments aren’t really committed to implementing the death penalty, even if they have one.
Report Post »bharris0
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 2:03pmIt should be mandatory for ALL liberals.
Report Post »Right-is-Right
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 2:00pmNo, they just need to reduce the paperwork, legal hazzles, and time allowed to weasel out of the death penalty which would reduce the state’s expense and cure over-crowding all in one grand sweep.
Report Post »Hephzibah
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 2:00pmThis is one of the most stupid things I’ve heard in a long time. One bullet vs a lifetime of total support??? Get real.
Report Post »I_Hate_Libs
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:54pmLook I can solve all of this if California would just pay me $2500.00 per death row inmate. I know they have thousands of death row inmates but it should only take me a couple of months. Problem Solved!
The horror of the Democrat mind.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 4:32pmI’ll do it for $2,400!
any more bidders?
Report Post »Drum Man
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:48pmI’d like to see an itemized list of that $308 Mil…
Report Post »Silly Californians…
Patriot Z
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:43pmNOPE! put in an ‘expess lane’. cut the time for a person btw the guilty verdict and execution. stop worrying about maing sure tey arehealthy bfore killing hem an either hang or a bullet to the head. i just bought 500 rds for 135.00. thats .27 cents a round. thats a prettycheap execution. even if yu use 2 bullets per.
Report Post »one years food ration like glenn says
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 8:42pmWOW man, I can’t believe with your education they gave you a gun permit.. WTF ??
Report Post »Nemo13
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:43pmThey could make the death penalty less humane and quicker, this would be cheaper and more of a deterrent.
Report Post »altops
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:39pm308 million? really? show us how and were the money went…
Report Post »Centralsville
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:34pmIt is only so expensive because of liberalism. There is no valid reason for it to cost any more.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 3:21pmAnd liberalism/leftism is the millstone dragging our economy down too. And our morals. And our culture. And our greatness as a nation. The primary battle againt communism is right here in our own country folks.
Report Post »yanki161
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:33pmFour walls for punishment are three too many.
Report Post »does this burka make me look fat?
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:33pmHow’s keeping them alive for 25 years gonna save money?? Euthanizing a dog doesn‘t doesn’t cost much.
Report Post »ICEDRAGONNITE
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:30pmMORE UN GAMES. Everything that keeps popping up is un and global governess. NOTHING IS LEFT TO CHANCE ALL UN POLICIES MUST ACCEPTED. SOUNDS LIKE THE BORG, RESISTANCE IS FUTILE YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. on, on, on.
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:27pm“I’m from Texas. In Texas we have the death penalty. And we USE it.
That’s right, if you come to Texas and kill somebody, we will kill you back. That’s our policy.
They’re trying to pass a bill right now through the Texas Legislature that will speed up the process of execution in heinous crimes where there’s more than three credible eye witnesses. If more than three people saw you do what you did, you don’t sit on death row for 15 years, Jack, you go straight to the front of the line.
Other states are trying to abolish the death penalty … my state’s puttin’ in an express lane.” — Ron White
If the death penalty in your state is too expensive… make it cheaper. Shorten the time, require one comprehensive appeal, and when the time limit is up, it costs less to flip a switch or use a rope than to administer injections or fire rifles.
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 2:31pmWhat would Christ say about the death penalty? http://wp.me/pYLB7-15v
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 2:58pmFinally, if a young person commits a heinous crime, or an old person commits a violent crime, such that the resultant prison sentence would exhaust their expected lifespan, i.e. the would be expected to die in prison, then just short circuit that process. Rather than spend the public treasure on this criminal who has no further benefit to offer the society upon which they prey, just commute that sentence, which is expected to result in the criminal dying in prison anyway, to death.
Again, the databases on criminal conduct and life expectancy are being perpetually updated, and are under the immediate control of humans. Any decision of the system can be reviewed by human eyes and appealed to human judges for modifications, which are also entered into the databases.
The system I described here is meant to guide the operation of human systems of jurisprudence, not replace the humans in that system. This is not “THX 1138” or “Logan’s Run”.
Report Post »one years food ration like glenn says
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 8:31pm@WALKWITHMEAMORON….He would say the same exact thing he would about the death penalty as he would about abortion. Course, unless someone murdered his entire family then he would nail them to the cross , himself..
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:27pmif you would shoot them after one a peel,then you could save millions of dollars, bullets are cheaper than clothing,housing or feeding them, line them up 10 at a time and let it go. if California had not been so liberal and left wing acceptance,and did not try to give everyone 10 or 20 times to stop committing crimes, they would not have this problem, how about the state ask all of it’s anti American, left wing, communist loving,mao indoctrinated,mud sucking bottom feeders to pay for their states short comings, heck i would bet that they would come running with wheel barrows full of money.
Report Post »dizzyinthedark
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:26pmIt costs to keep them in prison and those on death row seem to be there for years and years and years before their execution time, so here is where their tax dollars are spent in keeping them alive, not in serving justice. Something I’ve never understood if a State has the death penalty why take so long to carry it out? Think about it, back in the days of early America our justice system handed out the punishement swiftly and hung them high within a few weeks did they not? What happened along the way? I say if a State has the death penalty then use it within a few weeks–end of story! Otherwise keep them in jail for the rest of their lives, pay through the nose and stop complaining about the cost! There are other ways to carve away the ‘fat’ of jails, ask Sheriff Arpaio!
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 2:04pmHave you not seen True Grit? (the John Wayne one) The same question was on there, Rooster said it was the fancy Eastern lawyers. Probably from Columbia U. and Harvard.
Report Post »Mandors
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:21pmJudges need to enforce the law and punish frivolous appeals. The high cost derives from extremists filing baseless appeals. Feeding, clothing and sheltering monsters for the rest of their lives is not punishment.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:29pmThe punishment is for us.
Report Post »rienheart
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:20pmQuick and speedy execution, Cut the appeals process. They will be releasing 40,000 criminals onto the streets soon, which will give the criminals incintive to commit more crime because they know the Prisons are overcrowded and they will be let go again to commit more crime. Speedy trials, limit the appeals process. TORT REFORM as well. Get rid of the Communists who are in California State, County and City Legislatures, Including the Congressmen and Senators who keep voting for National Communist Policies.
Report Post »frustratedwithgovt
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:51pmAgreed.
Report Post »Tickdog
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:19pmno.. just use a 10 cent bullet.. do these people even think at all anymore? good lord!
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:19pmI couldn’t care less what California does; they made their fiscal bed now they can lie in it.
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on June 22, 2011 at 12:42pmAnd I couldn’t care less what Teeexas does, you friggin’ daggum cockeyed son of a banker!
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on June 23, 2011 at 4:52pmThis_Individual, I take it you’re from California? Sounds like you may be part of the problem.
Report Post »sister1_rm
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:19pmWhat! $308 million to execute one person?! What are they doing that costs so much? What’s the breakdown? Court costs? Medical fees? The stupid last meal? How does prison for life cost less than and execution? Someone is wasting a whole stinking pile of money!
Report Post »Bruce_Almty
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 2:52pmFull employment for lawyers. If everyone in Kalifornistan were a lawyer there would be no unemployment.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 3:12pmMost of the cost is reprobative lawyers.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:17pm.
Report Post »No, After they are found guilty, give them 6 months to prove other wise then Kill Them. Don’t waste time and money…..
the hawk
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 3:29pmNo, After they are found guilty, give them 6 months to prove other wise then Kill Them. Don’t waste time and money…..
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Report Post »one years food ration like glenn says
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 8:36pm@the halk.. Nothing happened. moron..Snitch.
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:13pmWhen money is used to decide whether or not to kill a person things are weird.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:22pmGet over it…everything is tied to money now. Morals dont enter into the discussion anymore. Sadly.
Report Post »Rob
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:13pmNO, we should get rid of the APPEAL process and kill them right away!
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:24pm.
Report Post »1000% in favor of that.
Should give the family the option to do the deed, save more money…
turkey13
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:52pmHey, I thought California was into green. Just hook up a bunch of solar panels to electric chairs and pull the leaver and you will save all that money. Probably all those lawyers will drop their law suits if they go green.
Report Post »lemmings4obama
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 2:08pm@turkey, lol, solar powered electric chairs? That’d make The Green Mile execution look quick and humane…
Report Post »Spqr1
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 3:12pmGet rid of the appeal process? What if it was YOU or a loved one falsely convicted of a capital crime? You’d change your tune REAL fast.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 3:28pmI don’t think many people on here really think their comments through sometimes…..
…..being falsely accused happens regularly, and the appeals process is an important function of our legal system to protect the innocent from being wrongfully punished.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 3:38pmIf there were no such things as TRIALS, then falsely accused would mean something bud.
Report Post »ForeignWatcher
Posted on June 22, 2011 at 5:17amYepp, thats why appeals never work out, right?
btw, love the constitution much?
Report Post »SoCal Patriot
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:12pmWhat CA really needs is an express lane.
Report Post »randy
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:15pmFor a second there I thought they were talking about ObamaCare
Report Post »YellowFin
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:18pm308 million per execution? What?
Report Post »How much does a bullet cost?
Dustyluv
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:20pmAgreed. One quick appeal then no waiting. Fry ‘em up quick so they cant eat our food and breathe our air…
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:26pmHow does taking care of a feral criminal, for life, save money as opposed to eliminating the criminal? Sounds upside-down to me.
Report Post »lemmings4obama
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:26pm@yellowfin
While the cost of metals is going up I agree that bullets can’t be that expensive. You could probably get all the radical muslims coming across the border to pull the trigger for Allah, I mean for free too.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:27pmGood old public HANGING is the solution! Seeing someone dangle at the end of a rope would help prevent crime.
Report Post »NJD
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:28pmJust get it done and stop letting them sit around for years, talk about costs.
No way should it cost $308million for an execution.
Report Post »101
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:31pmSince when did California ever worry about spending money? liberals WTF!
Report Post »wildjoker5
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:32pmI don’t get it? It only cost a few bucks for a bullet to the back of the head. How do they get $4 billion out it?
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:35pmLet CA abolish the death penalty. We can then pull the 7 conservatives left in that state out…sort of rescue them…Then build a wall around the state. We can then send all the death row inmates for the other 49 states there and save the rest of us money too! Win win I say!
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:39pmNo, have one mass execution of all prisoners on death row.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:42pmDuhh… capital punishment can be added to the list of military spending for defense contractors, medicare prescription spending for drug companies, farm subsidies to corporate farms, etc., etc. All are ATMs into the taxpayers pocket for lawyers, physicians and the army of folks making money off of the DOD. Seriously, like after the guilty verdict and capital sentencing, how much should 7 bullets for a firing squad really cost?
Report Post »Outlaw_Josey_Wales
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:42pmWhen someone gets the death penality in china, they are immediately taken behind the courthouse and shot. The next of kin is sent a bill for 13 cents for the cost of the bullet. Quick justice is good justice.
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:47pmWhat makes it cost so much? If it is the 10-15 years on death row as they appeal again and again…then there is the high cost…and there also, is why it has never deterred anyone. It if you whip out the needle and the chemistry kit within 48 hours after sentencing it would reduce the cost and actually scare the criminals.
Report Post »CHEWYRUNTS
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:50pmjust put a bullet in their head and be done with it. no more overpaying for criminals to have a luxurious life in prison. just .56 cents and the click of the hammer hitting the primer. and done.
come to think of it, that makes jobs. clean up crew!!!
Report Post »lovenfl3
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:54pmI agree with the express line suggestion. Perhaps they should find out exactly why it costs $308 million per execution. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG-QQ9eQKZE
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:55pmChina laws…..firing squad and charge his/her family for the bullet. QUIT putting death row inmates in death row til they die of natural causes too!!!
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 1:56pmKin do er fer a quarter, Yep !! Russians got that one right,
Report Post »One bullet in the back of the head, no B.S.,Get er done !!
But I don’t think they have to put up with, bleeding heart
Liberals..
booger71
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 2:03pmIf they would execute them within a month AFTER CONVICTION I think would save a little money
Report Post »sooner12
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 2:15pmWhy can’t they just hang them the day after their trial like it use to be?
Report Post »GodHatesFigs
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 2:24pmI hope none of you tough guys are never wrongly convicted of a crime. I would imagine you would be singing a different tune.
Report Post »Bruce_Almty
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 2:39pmThe state could be proactive and pay “potential” murders $100 million not to kill. In such a progressive state as Kalifornistan the liberals would certainly agree to that.
Report Post »CCRYDER
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 2:42pmExactly! It only costs billions because we take 14 years to kill them! If death penalty is given, then appeal should be immediate and once decided, execution should also be immediate. If they did this, California would SAVE billions. But unfortunately, the pinheads continue to “control” and further drive the state into oblivion.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 2:58pmWhy does it cost so much I can put my dog to sleep with the same basic drugs for 75.00-120.00 dollars. Who does anyone who has commited such crimes against humanity that they recieved a death sentence deserve any better.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 3:08pmAs with most things that are out of whack in our country, the leading cause is LAWYERS, particularly leftist lawyers. Until they are dealt with our country will continue to be screwed up and our freedom continued to be lost.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 3:08pmSHOULD CALIFORNIA ABOLISH THE DEATH PENALTY TO SAVE TAXPAYER DOLLARS?
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It seems the Anti-Capital Punishment Crowd is pursuing the new tactic of there being a finical limit to the pursuit of Justice. Here is an Idea to save money. Streamline the Appeals process… two and your out.
American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 3:26pm@GODHATESFIGS
Exactly. While I am in favor of capital punishment, I will hardly advocate for a “China or Russia” style adopted. People are wrongfully accused all the time. Mix up with evidence. Evidence planting. Appeals is an important process but it should be limited to two appeals with a two year max wait time before execution. The time frame can be reduces if the court system wasn’t clogged up with petty non-violent drug charges.
End the war on drugs, opening up the court systems so they can process appeals faster for death row inmates, allowing for their execution in a timely manner while still giving them an opportunity to appeal. The appeals should only be to fight for their innocence, not to appeal for lesser sentence.
Report Post »the hawk
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 3:28pmHow does taking care of a feral criminal, for life, save money as opposed to eliminating the criminal? Sounds upside-down to me.
IF theres NO reasonable dout EXECUTION ! STOP feeling bad for the criminal JUSTICE for the victum!!
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Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 3:34pm@Viet Vet
Report Post »Of course you are right. There is a medical condition where the bodies protector white cells start attacking the very body they where designed to defend. Yes i’am making an analogy comparing Lawyers to rouge white cells.
P.S. Where and When where you in Nam? Welcome home Brother
Secret Squirrel
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 3:45pm.
Report Post »“Should California Abolish the Death Penalty to Save Taxpayer Dollars?”
No. Abolish death row.
Viet Vet
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 3:54pmAnd as far as illicit drugs, illicit drug use goes, I advocate the death penalty for both USERS and PUSHERS. Solve the druggie problem overnight and open up more prison space. Let’s finally get serious with this nefarious and reprobative pursuit.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 4:17pmNo, CA should not Abolish the death penalty. As Americans, we should just ABOLISH CALIFORNIA!!!
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 4:25pmHere in WACKO CALI…
NOT that they would jack up the cost of housing deathrow inmates in order to justify eliminating the death penalty. NOT that the feds would prohibit the drugs needed to carry out the execution. Nah, they wouldn’t do anything like that!
NOT that the uber liberal courts would allow decades and decades of appeals.
Not here in WACKY CALI, where the supreme court has ordered the state to release 30,000+ criminals onto the streets! (for “cruel and inhumane conditions” – like only having a 6×8 sleeping space, like only having free healthcare, like only having free cable or satellite television, like having free gymnasiums, like getting FREE college courses/education, like having free food, like sharing a toilet with dozens of other people)
UNLIKE the HONEST people that cannot afford to go to college, that have cancelled their cable and satellite TV, that cannot afford internet, that are eating rice and beans or peanut butter or ramen noodles every single day to make ends meet; that cannot afford any college classes, that postpone healthcare, that cancelled their gym memberships, that can’t get a job. The toilet? College dorms with common baths have dozens of men to each toilet – as do Walmart customers/employees=100′s per toilet.
Bring back the firing squad. I’ll personally pay for every single bullet the state uses in executions in this year.
Report Post »Form a line out back of the prison. You get ONE appeal & only ONE year to do it. I’m not payin for the
jzs
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 5:20pmFrom Wiki: Due process is the legal principle that the government must respect all of the legal rights that are owed to a person according to the law. Due process holds the government subservient to the law of the land protecting individual persons from the state.
I know a lot of the comments here are jokes or half jokes anyway. But it is interesting how easily the Tea Party finds it to shred the Constitution of the United States in order to kill somebody more quickly and less expensively.
Report Post »avenger
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 5:22pmyou bet..learn from Texas,Ohio…
Report Post »JRook
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 6:27pm@TomFerrari Em you do realize the the strongest proponents against capital punishment are religious groups and libertarians who don’t think the state should be allowed to take the life of a citizen. And I’m not sure every lawyer and Prosecutor that are making careers on fighting such a stupid battle in court are democratic liberals. Do agree with you that following conviction and sentencing, a death sentence should be carried out ASAP and as cheaply as possible.
Report Post »one years food ration like glenn says
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 8:26pmHmmmm wonder how much it costs in Texas as they do around 1 a day on average, doesn’t seem to bother their pocket book..nah, This is another liberal ruse because they hate the death penalty.. Abortion = Good , death penalty = no good in the liberal mind set. course until one of their family is victimized by one of those criminals and then they are on local news saying ” I’ll pull the switch.. HYPOCRITES !!!!
Report Post »SilenceDoesGood
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 9:48pmTo get to the bottom of this debate, you have to do two things: use logic and put your emotions to the side. The state of California has a history of having no regard for common sense. It seems that everything they do is wrong. They are up to their ears in debt, they have ass-backwards laws, and they repeatedly elect people so far left that it’s sick. Should these people, meaning the government of California, be putting people to death? I don’t think so. They cannot do anything right, let alone be in control of precious life. Even if the person is convicted of a heinous crime, I don’t trust California (or any government).
In a perfect world, the death penalty is administered at the time of the crime, by the victim. I wonder if California will pass real Concealed Carry laws? Government is far to incompetent to dabble in the sanctity of life. But an armed populous, even if only ten percent, will prevent far more crimes and put more murderers to death at a much more economic manner.
Report Post »maumau
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 10:09pmi say they sit in court with a noose around their neck and bam convicted the door opens beneath them bam free
Report Post »execpt the cost of rope
ForeignWatcher
Posted on June 22, 2011 at 5:18amI just knew that you blazians love the constitution, not just the parts, you know, you really like…
Report Post »WhataBunchOfShi
Posted on June 23, 2011 at 10:26pmDoh! It’s a California THING!!!
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