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Should Catholic Nuns Be Taking Birth Control Pills?

Scientists Say Catholic Nuns Should Take Birth ControlShould nuns be taking contraceptives? On the surface, this seems like a bizarre question to be asking, especially considering the Catholic Church’s stance on birth control and the fact that Catholic clergy take a celibacy pledge.

But scientists are now claiming that “the pill” would help protect nuns from breast, ovarian and uterine cancer — diseases they claim are more likely among women who never bear children.

Writing in the Lancet, a well-known medical journal, Dr. Kara Britt of Monash University and Professor Roger Short of the University of Melbourne argue that nuns should be allowed to take the pill. They write:

Catholic nuns are committed to leading a celibate, spiritual life in a monastery or convent. In 1713, Italian physician Bernadino Ramazzini noted that nuns had an extremely high incidence of that “accursed pest”, breast cancer. Today, the world’s 94,790 nuns still pay a terrible price for their chastity because they have a greatly increased risk of breast, ovarian, and uterine cancers: the hazards of their nulliparity.

 

Scientists Say Catholic Nuns Should Take Birth Control

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They continue:

The Catholic church condemns all forms of contraception, as outlined by Pope Paul VI in Humanae Vitae in 1968. Although Humanae Vitae never mentions nuns, they should be free to use the contraceptive pill to protect against the hazards of nulliparity since the document states that ‘the church in no way regards as unlawful therapeutic means considered necessary to cure organic diseases, even though they also have a contraceptive effect.’  If the Catholic church could make the contraceptive pill freely available to all its nuns, it would reduce the risk of those accursed pests, cancer of the ovary and uterus, and give nuns’ plight the recognition it deserves.

The obvious question is: Why are nuns more susceptible to these cancers? Women who have children have a lower number of ovulatory cycles in their lifetime, thus their cancer risk is not as great as those who have never had children or have breastfed.

According to Short, one theory regarding why the uterine cancer risk may be higher is because of the incessant growing and rebuilding of the uterus lining. “It is a major stress on the uterus to repair itself as you slough off the endometrium,” Short explains. NewScientist.com continues:

Regular ovulation, meanwhile, is thought to increase a woman’s risk of ovarian cancer. Short points out that domestic chickens are the only animals known to ovulate once a day, and if they live long enough they have a very high risk of ovarian cancer.

Scientists Say Catholic Nuns Should Take Birth Control

During the first half of the 20th century, 32,000 Catholic nuns were studied by scientists and were found to have higher death rates from breast, uterine and ovarian cancer than other women their age did. According to the Guardian, in 1970, scientists officially recognized that having no children raised breast cancer risk in nuns. The Guardian has more:

The oral contraceptive pill has been shown to have a protective effect. It reduces the overall mortality rates of women who have ever taken it by 12% compared with non-users. The risk of developing ovarian and endometrial cancers falls by 50%-60% in pill users compared with never-users, protection that persists for 20 years. There is an increased risk of blood clots, however.

How the church will respond to this research will be intriguing, especially considering the Pope’s focus upon scientific evidence in making decisions. This has particularly been true when it comes to climate change. Whether the church will make an exception here is yet to be seen.

(H/T: The Guardian)

Comments (190)

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  • Sudsy
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 2:13pm

    So, when will advocates of ‘The Pill’ start acknowledging the greater link between the ‘The Pill’ and prostate cancer? The link which is the result of hormones from ‘the pill’ entering the water supply through urine, and not being fully cleaned out in treatment facilities; or worse entering the main water supply through septic systems. When will advocates of ‘the pill’ acknowledge the impact of the hormones from ‘the pill’ on local animal populations that consume the water supply contaminated with the hormones? You think three legged frogs and other mutations in various aquatic species are the sole result of solar radiation? No, they are starting to analyze the chemicals in the water and find its not just pesticides or the radiation they blamed for years, but also human hormones from medication, with contraceptives being one of the leading drugs with these hormones (among others).

    But I digress, people who choose to live celibate lives are not living full lives because they don’t take certain medications for moral reasons (many of whom I suspect would refuse ‘the pill’ despite the supposed benefits).

    The Catholic Church doesn’t prohibit the use of those contraceptives except when used as contraceptives to interfere with the creation of human life through procreation. As medication for various conditions, they have been approved for use (I have family who have had to take them for periods of time for hormone balance, not contraception, and we are Cat

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  • thegreatcarnac
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 2:09pm

    Maybe the chemicals in the pill will help their cycles or their mood. I went to Catholic school and the nuns we had were all mean….Sheesh..!

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    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 2:13pm

      Hey, good point!

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    • capitalismrocks
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 2:21pm

      Yes and that fear instilled respect… something you see little of from children towards teachers and adults in general these days.

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 2:43pm

      Unfortunatrely very true [at the time anyway.] My mother always said it was because they didn’t have children of their own. But the pill is another dangerous drug [like vaccines] that have been pushed on us. The pill can cause blood clots which can be fatal. It is unethical for any health practitioner and the government to be pushing these lethal pills on people.

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    • commie_LOVER
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 4:47pm

      Perhaps you were a brat.

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    • barbpatton
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 4:48pm

      LOL I can second that – I went to a Convent as well and the nuns were terrible. Corporal Punishment was the order of the day. It all makes sense now. Perhaps the Catholic Church should allow their nuns to use this pill especially to their nuns that are teachers.

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    • merlieannie
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 5:13pm

      My mother used to say she just loved the sisters cause they always looked so scrubbed clean. You just got a losing bunch. I am not catholic, so I never experienced this first hand. But to the subject of the article. Maybe they should take a relabeled form of this pill.

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    • South Philly Boy
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 6:10pm

      Just like Mother Mary Stigmata aka Penguin from the movie The Blues Brothers…
      Jake and Elwood RESPECTED her

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    • Jinglebob
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 6:12pm

      Uggggggg…are priests taking the little blue pill?

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    • Plynn
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 6:43pm

      Well maybe they were mean because they took an oath not to do what is natural to do. That would make a lot of people mean.

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    • Mojoron
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 7:59pm

      Especially Sr Clement Marie and don’t forget Sr Olivia, weeeew.

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    • WeekendAtBernankes
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 8:35pm

      I think a little sex now and again would do wonders for their mood.

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    • Mapache
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 9:00pm

      They were probably mean because of you. They taught high capacity classes and the students they had learned better than most kids. The incessant bashing of those who “survived” Catholic schools is getting old. You should thank those good sisters.

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    • Secessionista
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 10:02pm

      They were mean because they weren‘t gettin’ any.

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    • RJO
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 10:28pm

      Hmmm….another stereotpye UNLEASHED! Hey – let’s beat up on all Christians…all of those trouble making – God worshiping zealots who believe in absolutes, who believe in life beyond this existence, who believe in salvation for……GASP….”sins!!” Sins? How judgmental, how narrow, how exclusive, how revolting to think that there is TRUTH and the TRUTH does not change!!

      Where do you start? How do begin to dismantle what has been built? Attack credibility…attack, attack, attack. It works in the world of politics. Truth be damned! Facts be damned! We are after something bigger (Progressive 1st Commandment)….for the greater GOOD and if you have to “crack a few eggs” of slam a few Catholic nuns….DO IT!

      Idiots. I take that back….fools.

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    • Big Book Harry
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 11:16pm

      @rose????Of course it should be the choice of the individual. Could take an asprin a day to counter effect the blood clotting potential.

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    • KOCHLEFFEL
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 1:31pm

      Yes they should take the pill,because they are married to Jesus and he would make too many little jesuses.

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    • pavepaws
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 3:28pm

      Who knew?

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    • TAXEVERYONE
      Posted on December 10, 2011 at 9:39am

      I agree with the fear and respect, something that no longer exists in Dr. Spock America.
      However I don’t care if they take pills or not, I only care that they don’t vote for Obama this time around.

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  • AmazingGrace8
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 2:08pm

    Theory?

    I never had children, was on birth control pills for 10 years,age 20-30, was very active, hiking,weights, etc.powerwalk 5 miles a day,5 days a week and at age 53, I got stage 3 breast cancer, receptor…estrogen caused. Oncologist theory: being very healthy and active with the birth control pills and having no children….tons of estrogen and estrogen can turn on a women’s breast. A free radical is a free radical and many theories about the BIG C so I will take PAUSE about this theory.

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  • angelcat
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 2:02pm

    First, while the Church condemns use of the pill for contraception, it can be used for other health reasons. Second, though the pill may help against breast cancer, it actually increases the likelihood of several other kinds of cancer and some other health issues, so why would a nun or anyone for that matter trade possible protection against one thing for possible susceptibility to others?

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  • Exrepublisheep
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:56pm

    What’s the motivation for taking the drug? Many drugs have positive implications outside of their main use and are taken for those reasons. If a Nun wants to take it as a form of birth control that’s between her and her oaths. On the dark side of thought, who sponsored the testing that finds all of these benefits for the pill?

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  • CulperGang
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:53pm

    ah, pleeeeeeeeeze, we know the deal. it helps them to fornicate without detection.

    Did you know the head Papa is advocating “one world currency and the NOW.” correct me if I am wrong but in revelation one of the signs of the coming of the beast is ONE world gov, with one currency!!!!” I don’t hear an out cry from any Catholics calling out the Pope on this. Do they even realize that the RCC fits the whore of Babylon as described in relvelation to the TEEE. For the Pope to verbalize the call for the beast wow, any Catholics awake out there? Do you even read the Bible.
    I am astounded at the silence by RCC alleged believers.
    If the RCC is the beasts domain the it stands to reason why they promoted pedophelia(by not prosecuting it)

    http://silverdoctors.blogspot.com/2011/10/vatican-calls-for-world-central-bank.html

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    • angelcat
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:58pm

      The Pope is NOT advocating one world currency. That statement was released without his authorization and since the group that released it has been chastised and given a new set of rules.

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    • Caleb-Texas
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 2:43pm

      The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and bedecked with gold and jewels and pearls, holding in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the impurities of her fornication; and on her forehead was written a name of mystery: ‘Babylon the great, mother of harlots and of earth’s abominations.’ And I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. When I saw her I marveled greatly” (Rev. 17:1–6).

      This passage tells us several things about the Whore: (1) She is an international power, since she “sits on many waters,” representing different peoples (17:15), and she has committed fornication with “the kings of the earth,“ and she has inflamed ”the dwellers on earth” with her fornication. (2) She is connected with the seven-headed Beast from Revelation 13:1–10. That Beast was a major pagan empire, since its symbolism combined animal elements from four other major pagan empires (compare Rev. 13:1–2 with Dan. 7:1–8). (3) The Woman is connected with royalty, since she is dressed in the royal color purple. (4) The Woman is rich, for she is “bedecked with gold and jewels and pearls, holding in her hand a golden cup.” (5) She has committed some kind of fornication, which in Scripture is often a symbol of false religion—lack of fidelity to the God who created heaven and earth. (6) She is symbolically known as Babylon. (Cont.)

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    • Caleb-Texas
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 2:45pm

      (7) She is a central cause of “abominations” in the land, abominations being a reference to practices, especially religious practices, that are offensive to God. And (8) she persecutes Christians “the saints and . . . martyrs of Jesus.”

      While the rest of her description could refer to a number of things, the symbolic designation “Babylon” narrows it down to two: pagan Rome and apostate Jerusalem. It is well known that the early Church Fathers referred to pagan Rome as “Babylon”; however, there are also indications in Revelation that the Whore might be apostate Jerusalem. Historically, a number of commentators, both Protestant and Catholic, have adopted this interpretation.

      For the rest of the article: http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-whore-of-babylon

      We can have difference of opinion but making such hateful and baseless accusation won’t get you anywhere.

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    • SavedByTheLamb
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 4:44pm

      Oh for Pete’s sake. We’re awake out here, wishing you would go do your homework on Catholicism and stop spreading ridiculous lies about the Holy Father and the Church.

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    • watchmany2k
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 5:24pm

      @Caleb-texas

      You just described hilary not the Catholic Church
      LMAO

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    • PKama
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 7:12pm

      @WATCHMANY2K

      You just described hilary not the Catholic Church
      LMAO
      ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..

      You just took the words right out of my mouth. LMAO

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  • SpeaknUp
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:53pm

    There are other ways to deal with cancer risk, the main one being diet. If nuns have a higher risk of cancer, it’s probably from the crap-food they eat. I may be wrong, but I‘d bet money they’re not eating organic, and their meals are probably low-fat and 75% carbohydrates, which among other things contributes to cancer risk. With any drug – I don’t care what it is – you trade one health problem for another. Better to stay away from contraceptives if you don’t need them for contraception.

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    • PATRIOTGRUNT
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 3:02pm

      @ SPEAKNUP : My thoughts exactly. I have been to two different Convents in the old country. My cousin was a nun. You wouldn’t believe what their diet was like. I know I couldn’t eat that crap day after day. Also thanks to all of the Catholic Haters / Bashers you have done well today . Great quality of Venom / Hate . God loves you.

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  • Florida_Patriot
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:52pm

    Why is this a story? I don‘t get it at all because it’s completely manufactured.

    First, I don’t see any suggestion that nuns are asking to take the pill in the first place! Someone, not a nun, wrote an article about how nuns should be allowed to take the pill even though no nuns are asking to take the pill. So now, we wait on baited breath for the church to officially endorse or object to nun pill usage?! Why, so we can bash them for their decision either way?

    Secondly, the church does not have a stance on “the pill”. It has a stance on birth control in general but it does allow for the use of the pill (and other medications for that matter) for medical reasons. For instance, Lupron is a medication that puts a woman into temporary menopause, a state of birth control but the birth control aspect is secondary to the primary reason for using the medication, to treat a disease. The church has no problem with its use. People should really do their research on what the church teaches and stop relying on rumor and lies when making their condemnations.

    This article is stupid and I‘m surprised it’s on the Blaze.

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  • This_Individual
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:44pm

    I thought that the Catholic Church was against birth control. Those naught nuns ;)

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    • garyM
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 2:04pm

      Most Catholics can do whatever blows their skirt up because they think they can go the booth, shove a few dollars in the window and a earthly with a white collar man forgive their sins, no one but God can forgive sins, Sins are forgiven through Jesus who is the only mediator between God and man! That is the Gospel according to Jesus and all the Apostles! Even St Peter!

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    • proliance
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 4:21pm

      GaryM, 1) Jesus is not a mediator between man and God, He is God. 2) There is no money exchanged in a confessional. 3) Though all sins are forgiven through Jesus’ death on the cross, He gave the Apostles the duty to hear and forgive sins.

      Protestants, however, make an altar call, say the sinner’s prayer and expect that all sins past, present and future are forgiven, and that they can pretty do whatever they want because they are already forgiven.

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    • catholicagain
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 4:40pm

      @ Gary, Jn 20:20-23? Just out of curiosity, what are your thoughts? This seems to me that Jesus is providing them with the Holy Spirit to act “In Persona Christi” and forgive peoples sins, which is exactly what Catholic Priests are ordained to do.

      “The disciples rejoiced when they saw the Lord.
      Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you.
      As the Father has sent me, so I send you.”
      And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them,
      “Receive the Holy Spirit.
      Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them,
      and whose sins you retain are retained”

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 4:48pm

      proliance, – Jesus is not a mediator between man and God, He is God.

      Does your statement seem in conflict with the following scripture?
      1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all—[this is] what is to be witnessed to at its own particular times.

      How can Jesus be a mediator between God and man, and also be God Almighty himself?

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    • SavedByTheLamb
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 4:56pm

      Proliance and Catholicagain, you are right on. Catholics are expected to share in Christ through the sacraments, with the Priest acting in persona Christi.

      Catholics don’t have carte blanche to sin. We must have a contrite heart, which means the intention to make a sincere effort not to sin.

      Our “altar call” is Holy Communion; through which we share in Christ’s real presence through the Eucharist. We may not receive communion if in a state of mortal sin. Our goal is to become more like Christ.

      Our goal is to get to heaven; and the goal of the Church is to get us there.

      Anima Christi

      Soul of Christ, sanctify me
      Body of Christ, save me
      Blood of Christ, inebriate me
      Water from Christ’s side, wash me
      Passion of Christ, strengthen me
      O good Jesus, hear me
      Within Thy wounds hide me
      Suffer me not to be separated from Thee
      From the malicious enemy defend me
      In the hour of my death call me
      And bid me come unto Thee
      That I may praise Thee with Thy saints
      and with Thy angels
      Forever and ever
      Amen

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 5:02pm

      catholicagain,

      As a Catholic, you believe in the trinity doctrine. In John 20:21 Jesus said; 21 Jesus, therefore, said to them again: “May YOU have peace. Just as the Father has sent me forth, I also am sending YOU.”

      If Jesus was God Almighty, why did he say his Father “sent” him forth?

      I ask this not to be confrontational, just wanting to ask for the sake of getting the old gray cells working.

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    • SavedByTheLamb
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 7:33pm

      Whitefang, I am also Catholic. I hope you don’t mind me taking a stab at this. I would refer you back to John 14:28-31 where Jesus says a bit more about his relationship with the Father. Jesus is Divine, but a distinct person from the Father who has no beginning. Verse 31 is the only place in the Bible where Jesus says he loves the Father. God came to earth in the person of Jesus, conceived by the Holy Spirit, in the womb of Mary. This is partly why Catholics honor Mary so much — because from a Jewish perspective she is the new Holy of Holies — and her womb is the new Ark of the Covenant. Her free will submission to God — and God always honors our free will — is a model for us to follow. She is a model of purity and a channel of Grace. So how amazing is it that God humbled himself to inprison himself in flesh, within the womb of a woman, to repair his relationship with us? This is also why Jesus is referred to as the “new Adam”. Refer to the Wedding Feast at Cana where he addresses his mother as “woman” — reflects back to the book of Genesis.

      I digress. So as Jesus was sent by the Father, now he sends all of us. Catholics refer to the Church as the “body of Christ.” We are the body and he it’s head. We continue his work of saving souls!

      Awesome stuff!

      Praise God!

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 9:21pm

      SavedByTheLamb,

      After reading the scriptures in John 20:21 and 14:28-31, you came to that conclusion.

      Interesting!

      Have a good night.

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    • Dudley Do-Right
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 11:22pm

      John 1:1-4

      In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.

      Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men.

      From Genesis to Revelations, the bible is full of mysteries and miracles but the Holy Trinity or The Immaculate Conception is beyond comprehension and impossible?

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  • RejectFalseIcons
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:41pm

    I see no reason why nuns can’t use whatever medication they wish to improve the quality of their lives. This is their inalienable right. To say that one use for a medication should invalidate other uses is sort of hypocritical. Afterall, isn’t botox derived from a chemical weapon (Botulinum)? How about using Aspirin to treat heart conditions? Just because you don‘t have a headache doesn’t mean you can’t/shouldn’t use aspirin for its other benefits.

    I really hope the catholic church is on the verge of rediscovering what is truly important. It’s a shame that a bunch of old european dudes decide the faith and fate of over a billion people. Organized religion is collectivism.

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    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:51pm

      Isn’t collectivism a code word for communism/marxism?

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    • Sudsy
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 2:05pm

      The declaration of moral or immoral actions based upon the foundations of which the Church is founded is indeed something they can determine. Free exercise of religion means that those who don’t accept such recommendations can choose to believe differently and either leave and find a new faith, or deal with the moral implications of their decisions (and yes, there are consequences in some cases such as being denied some Sacraments, but does that really impact the secular life beyond making someone think twice because of guilt).

      If you don’t like Catholic teachings, don’t become Catholic. Nothing is worse than someone saying they are of a particular faith, and failing to live up to the teachings of said faith, no matter what the faith or teachings are in particular.

      There are indeed people who will choose to face the greater risk of cancer in order to live their lives, be it because they are organic vegetable freaks who don’t want immunizations or modern medication, or the quiet nuns and monks who decide to cloister themselves to live a life of prayer. Thats freedom, and freedom of religion.

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    • Florida_Patriot
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 2:05pm

      Quote: I see no reason why nuns can’t use whatever medication they wish to improve the quality of their lives. This is their inalienable right. To say that one use for a medication should invalidate other uses is sort of hypocritical.

      I just love the judgement you throw down calling the church hypocritical when you have no idea what the church actually teaches. The church ALLOWS for the use of a medication if the secondary nature of it is birth control if the primary use of that medication is for important health reasons. One use DOES NOT validate the other.

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    • SavedByTheLamb
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 7:45pm

      The Catholic Church knows what is important. That is to reject the ways of this world, putting ourselves secondary to the service of God Almighty through Jesus his Son.

      God gives us free will. He wants us to use that free will to serve and obey him. This is why they say the gates of Hell are locked from the inside. Selfish, sinful, self-absorbed souls go there because they can’t stand the light of God.

      These nuns voluntarily take a vow of obedience. This is done in phases over the course of years, to make sure this is the life they really choose. Those that take final vows are MODELS of dedication to God.

      People, please do your homework. Or at least ask a Catholic. You can find plenty of answers to questions about Catholicism out on Catholic.com.

      Remember, the goal is to get to Heaven and spend our eternity in glory adoring God.

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  • COFemale
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:31pm

    So let me get this straight, the church has to stay out of everyone’s else business, but it is okay that the government get in the business of the church. When did separation of church and state mantra change? Did I sleep through a new amendment to our Constitution.

    This is the most ludicrous suggestion I have ever heard of; suggesting Nuns take birth control. How about shut up and stay out of the church’s business. You want the church to stay out of your business, then stay out of theirs.

    I am fed up, I am fed up with this. I am like Glenn, I am getting so angry, my head is going to explode or I will give myself a heart attack. However, I have to rise above this anger, because this is the left’s intent. They want to anger us, they want us to react and we need to scream loudly in our homes and then go out in public and face these __________heads calmly.

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    • encinom
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:42pm

      Did you even read the article, actually can you read? The article is not about brth control, but about the benefit the pill has is prevetning some forms of cancers.

      Are you a person or just an over train attack dog for Beck.

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:42pm

      CoFemale,

      What makes you think the “church” stays out of government business?

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    • SavedByTheLamb
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 7:47pm

      The Church is obligated to “butt in” in all matters of faith and morals, especially if it is within the government. Likewise the government is obligated to “butt out” of religion. This is the true meaning of “separation of Church and state.”

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  • fronco
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:29pm

    Topics like this are not really conversational. its sad that someone thinks irresponsible as this.

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  • Dudley Do-Right
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:28pm

    Today is a holy day of obligation for Catholics as we honor Our Blessed Mother on this, The Feast Of The Immaculate Conception. Is this some kind of sick joke aimed at Catholics? I’m deeply offended!

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    • commie_LOVER
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:39pm

      “Today is a holy day of obligation for Catholics as we honor Our Blessed Mother on this, The Feast Of The Immaculate Conception. Is this some kind of sick joke aimed at Catholics? I’m deeply offended!”

      This is similar to how there are more anti-catholic articles during Holy Week. The devil is trying really hard to distract folks from the Truth.

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    • kentuckypatriot
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:41pm

      Amen Dudley, me too! After reading the article and reminising ( sp ) about my Catholic education ( 2nd grade – 12th grade ), I was thinking about all the nuns who were older than dirt when I was taught in the 70′s, so IMO, this suggestion for nuns to protect themselves from cancers with BC pills are irrelevant because to me, nuns seem to live a very long time… maybe because of no men in their lives! LOL
      Merry Christmas!!!!

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    • sta
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 2:52pm

      This morning, Glenn announced that when he read The Blaze he saw a story about a mob of girls. He was taken aback that the discussion turned to how the mob was black. He was horrified and chastised the posters. He told us to love, love, love.
      Well Glenn, this article on a Catholic Holy Day, with all the posts allowed to stand (don’t you have mods?) just lets us know your love for Catholics. Or your lack of moderation, I’m not sure which.
      A headline with Nuns and Birth Control is quite a shocker. If your staff were not looking for such a “Love filled” Catholic story, they would see that just because a medication can control conception, doesn‘t mean that it’s a “birth control” pill for those who do not have sex. But hey, all you Catholics, feel the love.

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    • SavedByTheLamb
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 4:57pm

      I think you’re right on, Dudley.

      Sad.

      jh

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    • watchmany2k
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 5:55pm

      move on nothing to see here.
      it’s just the militant LDS following orders.
      of course it’s just a coincidence that this is published on
      The Feast of The Immaculate Conception.
      I could say more but I won’t, this is a modus operandi with Beck & the Blaze.
      I normally agree with most of what they say/do, but this continued Catholic bashing prevents
      any material support of their efforts.

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  • Uncle Tom
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:24pm

    Well, since the pope isn’t infallible, because he is human, there really is no moral reason why a nun couldn’t take the pill if she chose.

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    • COFemale
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:32pm

      Are you really this ignorant?

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    • commie_LOVER
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:41pm

      The infallibility is only in regards to matters of faith and morals.

      http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07790a.htm

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    • watashbuddyfriend
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:43pm

      COFemale
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:32pm

      “Are you really this ignorant?”

      Ok, Colorado female, enlighten me on your comment! grin

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    • angelcat
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:59pm

      Why don’t you inform yourself with the truth before you make yourself look foolish in print?

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    • SavedByTheLamb
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 7:39pm

      Nuns take a vow of obedience, chastity, and poverty. Some take other vows like those of charity. The vows obligate nuns, priests, and religious to follow their bishop and the Pope.

      All Catholics are obligated to follow the teachings of the Church. This is because Jesus charged Peter — the first Pope — and the Bishops with leading the Church. The teaching authority of the Catholic Church is called the Magisterium. This along with the sacred tradition — as recorded in the bible and elsewhere is what we follow. This teaching authority keeps order and stability within the Church – as pointed out earlier, infallibility only applies in special cases and is not invoked gratuitously. It is believed that the Pope, Cardinals and Bishops are guided by the Holy Spirit in these matters.

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  • Rosanne Martin
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:23pm

    God Almighty. “the Pill” is a Hormone, (not whore moan). And is used for more an preventing pregnacy.

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  • hi
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:21pm

    This is bogus scientifically. There are so many side effects of taking birth control pills! The best thing they can do is to use NATURAL, NOT synthetic, progesterone to offset the estrogen dominance which increases the risk of cancers.

    I am advising my daughter not to use the pill when she gets married. It is NOT safe. Moreover, it is not a health pill whatsoever!!!

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  • commie_LOVER
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:19pm

    This is an absurd article. They would not be taking the pills to “control birth” but for another purpose entirely. The catholic Church is not against the thing (little pill) but the action of stopping/destroying life and thwarting the procreative aspect of sex within a marriage (which a celibate nun would never have to worry about anyway). I expected better from the Blaze than this simpleton drival.

    The real story here is why would doctors suggest that women should ingest a Group 1 carcinogen to help prevent cancer.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IARC_Group_1_carcinogens

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    • Locked
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:24pm

      “This is an absurd article. They would not be taking the pills to “control birth” but for another purpose entirely. The catholic Church is not against the thing (little pill) but the action of stopping/destroying life and thwarting the procreative aspect of sex within a marriage (which a celibate nun would never have to worry about anyway).”

      This is pretty much the exact comment I was going to post. Well said!

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    • COFemale
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:34pm

      You two are you really this ignorant? God help us all.

      COFemale  
    • Locked
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:55pm

      @Cofemale

      I‘m not sure I understand what you’re commenting on. Are you saying that the Church is against processes that stop pregnancy, even if someone is celibate? For example, would the Church be against hysterectomies because they make a woman never able to conceive?

      Also, is your name like “Co-female“ or a play on ”Coffee male”? Just personal curiosity on that point.

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  • Sister Miriam
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:18pm

    I am a 35 year old nun and I think this “study” is ridiculous. I would never do that to my body! Yikes!

    I posted a blog about it here: http://soltsisters.blogspot.com/2011/12/nuns-on-birth-control-pill-outrageous.html

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  • tmplarnite
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:18pm

    I had buddy in the US Navy, in the 60′s, bulleted in Boston, who was dating a nun and he wanted me to date her friend, a nun, never happened because but we got transferred to virginia before it happened…Oh well. Yes… they should be able to take the pill for whatever it is they need it… medical, wayward priests or us wild sailors!

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    • commie_LOVER
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:20pm

      You have no moral foundation whatsoever.

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    • tmplarnite
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:48pm

      @Commie Lover… Your handle tells us all we need to know…your a self righteous ignorant idiot… I do not get to judge others they choose their own path….nor do you! If a Nun is dating it is her personal business…a woman… is woman… is a woman…

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    • CulperGang
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 2:14pm

      sex is rampant in the rcc…….and it is not just the priest. lets get real. celibacy is unnatural. abortions is probalby becoming rampant behind closed doors. this will fix the problem. the rcc for centuries participated in orgies amongst the order. the facade is crumbling. nothing the rcc does remotely relates to who and what the Rabbi Yeshua was about.

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    • catholicagain
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 4:20pm

      @culpergang: “sex is rampant in the rcc”, “abortions is probalby becoming rampant behind closed doors”, “the rcc for centuries participated in orgies amongst the order”…where did you get your ‘facts’? I think i have heard bill maher say this, and the da vinci code, and the borgias on showtime. all reliable sources from reliable theologians. thanks for your enlightenment

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    • SavedByTheLamb
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 7:55pm

      Those that violate their vows of Chastity will have to face God Almighty. The Catholic Church is full of sinners, but the Church absolutely does not teach or model immoral behavior.

      Culpergang, you need to get real. While these things may rarely happen, they are not the norm. Please don’t do the work of the Devil.

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  • Stoic one
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:17pm

    One can view this much like aspirin. 81mg -> heart health…..200mg pain abatement

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:14pm

    How the matter comes down to the line in birth control is this — a matter of a persons free choice and how they see it in the realm of faith.

    The good book teaches both of life is to be treasured and yet also of personal responsibility; if this contraceptive can reduce the chances of the listed cancers and such, and they chose to remain abstenant then as far as I can see there is no ethical or moral problem.

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  • NHwinter
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:14pm

    Aren’t there a lot of other very serious side effects to using the pill? I would opt out of that remedy.

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    • Locked
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:26pm

      Potential side effects. I had a friend who refused to take the combination pill because it raised her chances of having a stroke (which ran in her family anyway). I believe she ended up on a progesterone-only patch instead, and was pretty happy with it. She used it until she was married and she and her husband decided to try for kids; they now have a happy 1-year-old girl without any side effects :-)

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  • goatrope67
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:12pm

    Yep. And they should also be allowed to have sex with priests…might cure two problems.

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  • thekuligs
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:12pm

    And birth control comes with a whole list of potential side effects so… pick your posion?

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  • pap pap
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 1:11pm

    If the nuns are truly celibate then the pill would not be a contraceptive (or a contraceptive in name only) but just something to help preserve them, hopefully. So why should this be a big deal change the name of the pill and it would probably be okay with the church.

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  • Exrepublisheep
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 2:15pm

    Excellent post.

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  • chaberthy
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 3:33pm

    Please be educated folks. The article referenced Pope Paul IV, so here is a great site on the facts of taking the pill to solve everything, including ACNE – its a hoax folks. http://www.popepaulvi.com/. Also so subjects on Theology of the Body.

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  • Hickory
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 4:09pm

    You are correct. This is just another jab by the Liberals and Obama at Christians.

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  • SavedByTheLamb
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 4:34pm

    Thanks, Floridacracker. The story is gratuitous and unnecessary.

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  • thegreatcarnac
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 5:07pm

    You did not go to Catholic schools. However…the comment was said in fun. The nuns were grouchy…but they were our grouches…..and we liked them anyway.

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  • 3monkeysmomma
    Posted on December 8, 2011 at 9:27pm

    Well said, *******!

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