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Should Christian Churches Rent Space for Muslim Worship?
- Posted on February 21, 2011 at 2:54am by
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Fox News:
They see it as their Christian duty. But others disagree, saying it extends the hand of fellowship where it was never intended to go.
Two Protestant churches are taking some heat from critics for opening their church buildings to Muslims needing places to worship because their own facilities were either too small, or under construction.
Heartsong Church in Cordova, Tenn., let members of the Memphis Islamic Center hold Ramadan prayers there last September. And Aldersgate United Methodist Church in Alexandria, Va., allows the Islamic Circle of North America to hold regular Friday prayers in their building while their new mosque is being built.
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Comments (550)
FidFed
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:54amNO foolish ones, Christians would never ever be able to worship in Mosques.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:54amSounds dangerous, not to mention stupid… Kinda like the ‘Motorcycles with Training Wheels’ article.
Report Post »Via Dolorosa
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:48ammuslims pray/worship a god named “allah” – that name is not mentioned
one time in the Holy Bible.
muslims read/practice from the quran – that book is not God’s Scriptures.
Christians are instructed to minister to the lost – but I just don’t think God
would approve of allowing persons into His House to kneel and pray to a
false “god”.
The Bible says to abstain from even the appearance of evil.
This has nothing to do with “religion” and being “accomodating” – it has
everything to do with dishonoring God in His own House of Worship.
There is no such thing as a Christian muslim – nor a muslim Christian.
muslims believe and worship their prophet mohammad.
Considering that the muslims/brotherhood admit they want to take over
America, and bring sharia law, and jihad, here – I would say allowing them
into God’s House is a very bad idea.
I pray for all muslim’s conversion to the one true God – and Jesus – and for
Report Post »the preachers and churches that are allowing them in to worship a false
entity.
Sparky101
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 9:22pmWhere is God’s house, as described in the New Testament?
Report Post »komponist-ZAH
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:46amWait a minute…one of the churches is in *Cordova*, TN? Coincidence?
Report Post »LadyLibertykicksASS
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 10:03amVERY interesting……Muslims conquered Cordova in Spain during the middle ages and Spain became Muslim for several hundred yr . The Mosque at ground zero was to be call the CORDOVA mosque. and now we have a cute little mosque in Cordova, Tn. There is no such thing as a coincident when it comes to Muslims…..they are sneaky and coniving.
Report Post »DonaldH
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:39amRent???? something tells me there is more here than “compassion and tolerance” I’m all for letting them worship there FREE OF CHARGE but charge them what amounts to an entrance fee or a user fee is of poor taste……
Report Post »NHABE64
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:38amWhat a crock of crap. Have thsoe people lost their minds ? Does anybody of even a minute amount of intelligence not think that Islam is here to not only co-habitat with us but to rule the world. It is NOT going to happen this country and boneheads like those two Churches better wake up and smell the skunks.
Report Post »BGR38
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:30amNO,NO,NO!!!!!!!!!! What part don’t you understand?????
Report Post »JoeAmerica
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:53amPretty sure it was that first part..
Report Post »justice
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:24amWhen they all come screaming ALLAH and and preach Sharia Law, only then will their eyes be open.
Report Post »lillianrose
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:51amI’m sure when heads start rolling people will get it.
Report Post »Gdawg
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:19amWould God allow Satan to set up an office in heaven ? Would a Rabbit share a cave for the winter with a bear? This is stupidity, Its the apostate church , the Bible says it will happen. JOEAMERICAN< you are neither,
Winston Churchill said;
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hopeing he will eat him last"
Have you seen this headline?
Report Post »"Extremist cleric to lead White House protest calling for Muslims to 'rise up and establish Islamic state in America'
http://Extremist cleric to lead White House protest calling for Muslims to 'rise up and establish Islamic state in America'
Its here gang! This is what appeasing gets you with muslims or liberal progressives, Give em an inch they will take it all.
Its here , be prepared.
vennoye
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 12:20pmThank you!! This entire discussion is senseless…….What part of Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. OR 2Kings 17:35 (Israel) With whom the LORD had made a covenant, and charged them, saying, Ye shall not fear other gods, nor bow yourselves to them, nor serve them, nor sacrifice to them. Is hard to understand?
Report Post »The God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob is NOT the same as the God of Abraham, Ismael and Esau. They may be decendents of Abraham, but the beliefs are different…..bottom line from the believers of Islam is to prove whose God is BIGGER. We will not prove anything to them, Jehovah will when he is ready…..apparently we have a lot of studying we need to do about our own faith. We need to BELIEVE Hosea 4:6 ¶ My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. {destroyed: Heb. cut off}. Because remember, God never lies!
Lone Ranger
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:07amLuke 6:27-36
[27] “But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, [28] bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. [29] If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. [30] Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. [31] Do to others as you would have them do to you.
Any questions?
Report Post »Diane TX
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:18am@ walkwithme1966
I didn’t think that you were a Christian from your other post. Am I wrong?
Report Post »komponist-ZAH
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:22amActually, it’s “If someone asks for your cloak, give him your tunic, also”, i.e., do more than is expected of you.
I suppose this isn’t so bad, but still…why is this necessary?
Report Post »JoeAmerica
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:51amAnd don’t forget Jesus was a Jew.. and most intelligent elder Muslims and Jews will admit they are the same people.. i.e. New Yorkers vs. people who live in New Jersey.
Report Post »Diane TX
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:03amJoeAmerica
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:51am
And don’t forget Jesus was a Jew.. and most intelligent elder Muslims and Jews will admit they are the same people.. i.e. New Yorkers vs. people who live in New Jersey.
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Yep, they come from the same line. The problem is that the “Jewish” son was a product of a marriage, and the “Muslim” son was a product of a master and a slave.
Report Post »MaggieRose
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:44amThat’s what I was thinking, Lone Ranger… How are Muslim’s going to come to know Christ unless they are shown His love? Of course, my knee jerk reaction was “NO!” But the more I thought about it, the more I thought this may be a way to reach even one person for Christ. I have seen many miraculous changes in lives that others had given up on… why not Muslim’s? Besides the true Church is not in a building… it’s in our hearts.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:38pmYes. Why don’t you turn your other cheek and brace yourself?
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 9:28pmYou are correct Maggie. It would be my challenge for all to search the New Testament for any reference to any house being Gods, apart from Solomon’s Temple, i.e. a place for Jews to bring their sacrifices for sin and to pray for atonement. Christ has a different kind of Church, a body of believers, of which he is the head.
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 4:59amWe must assume that the supposed angel of light that muhamad saw was in fact the devil and he always has a counterfeit so in fact allah is the devil therefore theses churches have promoted devil worship in their church “Thou shalt have No other gods before me ”, Maybe his statement was not clear to some yet i have no doubt he really meant it .
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 4:50amThat’s hilariously adorable–I love that they were able to find it in there hearts to treat the Muslims the same as everyone else in spite of their religion.
Report Post »UlyssesP
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:52amThe very hearts that will be cut from their chests.
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 4:45amWell after i heard about Tony Blair starting the World Church in the U.K.and him bringing all faiths together with help from rick warren and several other pastors have joined even the cfr has helped and after hearing recently the phrase chrislam this really don’t surprise me .This is an abomination of desolation on a mini-scale and if it was my church i would find another one or home church .
Report Post »Doctor Who
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:42amPresumably you are referring to the ex British Prime Minister? In which case, I have to say – what the **!* are you talking about?? Keep up the banjo lessons – loved you in Deliverance.
Report Post »Futureorthopod2013
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 4:08amwow…so sad…way to (mis)represent Christianity. And yet people still wonder why people are so skeptical of Christianity, a religion that is supposed to represent the truth of all truths. Many of us seek to call ourselves Christian, yet attempt to justify every sin we knowingly commit, refuse to repent, and continue maintaining a sense of (false) moral authority over those we deem are lower than us b/c they are not Christian.
Keep it up…b/c like another poster said…we will be judged one day as well. What do you think He will say when many of us kneel before him with respect – thinking that we have been humble and faithful servants – and yet still do not recognize our own shortcomings?….The same thing he will say to every other non-Christian….
Report Post »Pragmatica
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:00am^^^This^^^
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:32amAllowing muslims to worship Allah in a Christian church built for the worship of God violates one of the Ten Commandments.
Report Post »HELOVESUS
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 10:48amYou are on point!!!
Report Post »PeachyinGA
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:33pmNot to mention, “Install loud speakers for the Call to Prayer 5 times a day” is not what He told Moses.
Report Post »MaggieRose
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:57amamen… we are forgetting one of the most basic things… Christ’s true church is not made with human hands, but made by the Spirit of God in our hearts. How are others going to come to know Him if they are constantly judged by those who claim they DO know Him?
BTW, good luck in your studies…
Report Post »MaggieRose
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 9:05amthis was a response to “futureorthopod” :-)
Report Post »BacktotheFounders
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:12pm“The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.” (Psa. 37:30)
We are expected to judge. There are 700 mentions of judgment in the Bible.
“Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live: and so the LORD, the God of hosts, shall be with you, as ye have spoken. Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the LORD God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph.” (Amos 5:14-15) How can you hate the evil and love the good if you refuse to judge? You can’t. You are SINNING when you refuse to judge.
Report Post »Akscooch
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:46pmGod wants us to discern good from evil. Judgement involves meting out punishment. It‘s never wrong to know what’s good and what’s not.
Report Post »Ninetailedfox
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:16pmDont mind if I do. Crusades, Holocaust, Inquisition and Witchtrials along with many incidents of serial killers werent done by Atheists you know.
Report Post »Byzantine-Catholic
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 9:15pmLets look at wars and which were done for religious reasons..
WWII = 40M dead
Report Post »An Shi Rebellion = 33M
Mongol Conquests = 30M
Conquest of Ming Dynasty = 25M
Taioping Rebellion = 20M
WWI = 15M
Conquest of Timur = 15M
Dungan revolt = 8M
Russian Civil war = 5M
Second Congo War = 3.8M
Napoleonoic War = 3.5M
Yello Turban rebellion =3M
30 years war = 3m <=== First religious war
Kevin
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 9:07amWell Said… Well said
Report Post »ChiRho4Life
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 1:58pmEven Jesus kicked the money-changers out of the Temple, and Gentiles were not allowed to enter the Temple in His day…nuff said
Report Post »Ninetailedfox
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:11pmshow that christian love. and you wonder why christianity is losing converts.
Report Post »retriever
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 9:59pmThis is NOT about judging the faith of other beliefs, and it is NOT about looking down at your brothers and sisters, and it is not about hate for brothers and sisters. If you truly believe in Jesus Christ, then you must help others to see the truth. Those who do hate and will do harm (even kill) for their beliefs do not belong in God’s house. Don’t be fooled by those who say that they come in peace, but in their hearts hate what you believe and will harm you or your loved ones. The true God will be the judge, not you!
Report Post »BacktotheFounders
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 8:31amNinetail,
I’m reading your comments and laughing. You simply don‘t know what you’re talking about.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=245201
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 10:09pmChristianity is not a religion and Christians know this. It is a faith!
We live under grace and not the law. The Law is for Jews and is the old covenant under God. Jesus is the new covenant for man to live under.
Christians do not have to get themselves all cleaned up and make pretty enough for God to accept them. They turn to God as they are…repent and Christ makes them presentable in the eyes of God. That does not make us perfect but only clean and Holy in the eyes of God which we are hid in Christ.
We are not perfect and I don’t know any Christians who actually walk around and brow beat people into their way of thinking. You sound as if you are repeating old mantras from the past which were designed to malign and discourage people away from Christianity. This would be known as causing others to stumble by misleading and deceiving.
When Jesus spoke about Judging he was speaking about passing judgement in the sense of condemning others to hell. He did explain further about correcting your own faults first before setting your brother right. Thats what I am doing…please take it in the spirit. God Bless.
Report Post »Ninetailedfox
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 8:12amThe first rule of making excuses for religion: always claim the religion and “fundamentalism/literalism” are somehow separate. Never offer any evidence of course, just rely on lack of critical thinking. After all if you can frame the fundamentals of a religion as not part of it, then you will believe most anything.
Report Post »KO
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 5:01pmThe Lord will be saying depart from me I never knew you
Report Post »Diane TX
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:55amI don’t think that Christ would be insulted with Muslims praying in a Christian Church, but I’m pretty sure that Allah would be insulted with Christians praying in a Mosque.
Why is that Christian Churches welcome everyone, but Muslim Mosques only allow Muslims to enter? It’s very hard to be a friend to someone who never reciprocates.
Report Post »Stronge
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:35amWhat are you talking about? I‘m not a Muslim but I’ve been in a mosque. And in a predominantly Muslim country country (albeit a secular one).
Report Post »JoeAmerica
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:36amGood Point Diane, There are Mosques that welcome others. Try searching on the internet.
Report Post »GEW
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:55amstone….did you or where you allow to worship your faith there? Also, you are a man, right?
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:16am@ DIANE TX
Report Post »Just look on YouTube in England how churches are being replaced by mosques , it is so sad , you don’t wanna this to happen do you ?
EP46
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 7:32amI think God would be very unhappy with any group praying to any God other. Remember the FIRST COMMANDMENT. If you let these people into a House of God, then let the devil worshipers in also….what blasphemy to disgrace a place built to worship God!
Christians have held services by the roadside in TENTS for generations. If it is good enough to worship GOD in a tent, then let them pitch a tent and worship allah .
Just another way, along with Social Justice, to take over the Christian religion. When you see EVIL call it by its name. No problem with inviting these people to attend a regular service in these churches, but not to let them worship ‘another god” in the place of worship built for honoring God.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 9:09pmEP46 you say “I think God would be very unhappy with any group praying to any God other. Remember the FIRST COMMANDMENT. If you let these people into a House of God, then let the devil worshipers in also….what blasphemy to disgrace a place built to worship God!” I understand your emotions here, but is your church filled with believers only? Is there a rule at your church that unbelieving sinners cannot enter and hear the Word? (Of course as opposed to beliving sinners.) How do you keep Satan out of your building? Is he afraid of you and your members that he stays away? Don’t you think he stays away 6 days a week because there is little for him to do there, but he makes it a high priority to show up on Sundays? I mean what better time for him to disrupt the unity as the congregations votes on the color of the carpet or the new hymnal. Satan is in there bigtime. You don’t have to invite him, he invites himself. All this is to say that unbelievers need to hear the Word of God, and if not from you and I, then from whom?
Report Post »WAR PIGS CRAWLING
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:44amMaybe they could offer free jambiya sharpening as well……one would hate to be beheaded with a dull knife.
Report Post »JoeAmerica
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:20amWould rather be beheaded then go through life after being molested by the person I trusted the most :(
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:01am@ JOEAMERICA
Report Post »That would be awesome .
FIVEHOLEJAMO
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:43am@Joe …Sorry to hear your dad molested you…explains a lot of things ….
Report Post »rpp
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:42amIndiferetism is considered a heresy by the Catholic church. Only in extremis would a Catholic church share space with another Christian denomination; and then only temporarily, in general. I am unaware of any *authentically* Catholic Church that also permits regular worship by other religions.
It is wrong for any Christian Church to rent, or otherwise permit, it’s worship space to another religion. It is, in fact, a grave sacrilege. Shame on those misguided pastors.
Report Post »JoeAmerica
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:15amJesus sure has a lot of houses.. Last I heard he was a pretty LOVING, CARING, *SHARING*, preachy kind of guy!
Report Post »komponist-ZAH
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:26am@Joe–
Yeah, sharing *WILLINGLY*, not by force:
“Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.” —Geo. Washington
Report Post »Capitalist Mama
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 2:11pmJoe, you might want to stop going on what you “hear” about Jesus and listen to His teachings:
Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. “It is written,” he said to them, “‘My house will be called a house of prayer,’ but you are making it ‘a den of robbers.’” Matthew 21:12-13
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 8:54pmCapitalistMama, please recognize the situation you bring to us. Jesus was speaking of the Temple, not the Church. It was before his sacrifice on the cross and his resurrection from the tomb. It was for Jews to use to bring their sacrifices to God and pray for atonement. Christ is our perfect sacrifice, we need no other. He said “It is done.” He meant it. We need no building to worship, we worship the Lord only.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:28amThey will tell you that they shared Thanksgiving Dinner with a Jewish Prayer in Hebrew; that one of their Parrishioners is going to Jerusalem with 100 Jews/100 Christians and 100 Muslims. Ho hum. Just like the Neve Shalom Kabutz…three faiths living together.
NOW HEAR THIS: The Muslim Cultists are told to “SAY ANYTHING” it takes to get their camel’s nose under the tent in the USA. Even if it’s listening to JEWS at Thanksgiving. FOLKS!!! WHEN
Muslims start speaking OUT against their own TEACHINGS about Sharia Law; Honor Killings; Stonings and KILLING INFIDELS (for Heaven’s Sake) then I’ll start listening to them, until then:
They are nothing more than a TRICK of SATAN. Why do any of you think GOD named the JEWS as HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE? Because HE knew in years to come that this was the ONE sure way of knowing who really worshiped HIM and who was pretending. Figure it out!!! But do it fast…they have over 2000 Mosques in the USA now and they are already 6% of our population. IT only took 3% of Russian to achieve the Commie take over. Get the picture?
Report Post »JoeAmerica
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 4:24amPatty get it right.. It’s the Koala Bears that are coming to wipe us of the face of the earth!
Report Post »Curioso
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 1:27pmActually Mr Beck had one such gentleman on his show when he was talking about the twelfth imam.
Report Post »dcwu
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:14amThe fast answer is HELL NO. Beck hit the nail on the head 02/17/11. The justice the muslims intend to mete out at the end of the world is chopping off the heads of everyone else. This is supposed to happen when chaos covers the globe and the mahdi or 12th imam returns. This is why Ahmenidijad opens all his speeches praying for the mahdi’s return. That crazy sucker wants to start World War III to bring back the mahdi – and then start chopping off heads. Remember, the muslim symbol of justice is the sword, not a blindfolded lady with a scale. NOOOOOO.
Report Post »JoeAmerica
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 4:21amBack in the 80s Reagan threaten to end life on this planet if anyone (especially the USSR) attacked us through the launch of tens of thousands ICBMs. i.e. if Russia attacked us we would kill them, along with the Muslims, Asians, Jews, Mexicans, Europeans, Eskimos, and the Palin’s …Who are the crazy nutty ones again? Yikes, that’s me the tax paying American Joe
Report Post »komponist-ZAH
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:16amThe doctrine of mutually assured destruction originated in the ‘60’s…..
Report Post »JoeAmerica
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:26amMAD reached it’s plateau in the late 80s, but yes the craziness began in the 60s
Report Post »JoeAmerica
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:27amI.E. I was born in the 70′s.. so I have been “MAD” my whole life : )
Report Post »komponist-ZAH
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:47amI can tell…
Report Post »;)
Robert-CA
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:10am@ JOEAMERICA
Report Post »if you’re complaining about paying taxes (which I doubt you are) I’ll buy you 1 way ticket to any of your beloved muslim countries .
CatholiConservative
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:11amThe real question is should we continue renting wall space to Joe?
Report Post »JoeAmerica
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:51amThanks ROBERT, I might take you up on that offer. I’ve always wanted to check out Dubai. If you pay for the ticket there I’m pretty sure I can cover the return costs. Oh, just in case your education budget has been recently cut.. MAD = mutually assured destruction.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 7:08am@ JOEAMERICA
Report Post »I don’t need a budget or welfare from the government like you do .
The deal is 1 way ticket & you stay there with your muslim brothers .
Ghenkis_Khan
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:58am@Joe, Lay down the pipe.
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:12pmJOE – Well said. The times are a changing.
Report Post »grandma7
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:08amOur houses are for Jesus only!!
Report Post »pwatkins
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:19amAmen Grandma……enough said.
Report Post »JoeAmerica
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:03amJesus sure has a lot of houses.. And last I heard he was a pretty LOVING, CARING, SHARING, preachy kind of guy!
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:05amAnd this is what Christ would have done? Where in the Bible does it say that church are for Jesus only?http://wp.me/pYLB7-G6
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:42amWell said Grandma! How can anyone claim to be a Christian and willingly support idolatry/Satan worship in their own buildings. Would those same churches allow Satan worshipers to worship there too? It’s the same thing.
Report Post »What a bunch of fools and are completely twisting the teachings of the Bible.
I could have swore the Bible said.
2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
tower7femacamp
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 7:51amActs.17:24 God that made the world, and all things therein, seeing that He is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Report Post »25 Neither is worshiped with mens hands, as though He needed anything, seeing, He giveth to all life, and breath, and all things:
MaggieRose
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:59amBut Grandma, that leaves so many that need Him out on the street
Report Post »Cape_Lookout_RW_Extremist
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 9:04am@walkwithme…aaahhh how ’bout Thou shalt have no other gods before me?” (ten commandments) ….or how about….What fellowship has light with darkness? We could go on for a long time on this with what the Bible says…remember you asked.
Report Post »grandma7
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 4:05pmMatthew 4, Jesus asked Peter & Andrew to, “Follow Me”.
He didn’t ask them to bring another god. Bringing other gods to Jesus‘ house won’t work. Muslims will ALWAYS be welcome to come to Jesus’ house, their gods won’t. My buddist, hindu and muslim friends understand this. We respect each other and wouldn‘t dream of encroaching on each other’s house of worship.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 1:10am@JoeAmerica
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:03am
Jesus sure has a lot of houses.. And last I heard he was a pretty LOVING, CARING, SHARING, preachy kind of guy!
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Report Post »But, did you read the whole story, I remember a few, “Woe unto you’s”, Maybe straining at a gnat and swallowing a “camel”, would fit here, because politics aren’t allowed in churches, or Worship in Public Places, but, you‘d be ok with someone who says they’re the religion of “death” in the House of Worship, for Him, Who said: ” I am the way, the truth, AND THE LIFE” ((Sounds like grounds for dissolution because of Incompatability!”))
Sparky101
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 9:15pmYes, if you are referring to our individual homes.
Report Post »UlyssesP
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:07amSure, until the first fanatic blows one up. Then it‘s the Church’s fault because they didn’t give the Muslim worshipers enough space.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:48am@ JOEAMERICA
Report Post »& who was blowing up mosques during prayer hours ???? …. yes suicidal muslims .
Robert-CA
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:12am@ JOEAMERICA
Report Post »Bin Laden is recruiting & he’s in a such need of traitors like you .
BehindBlueEyes
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:42am@JoeAmerica
Report Post »If you are an American citizen I think it’s time for you to find a new country to live in. It‘s up to you where you go but some how I think you won’t last any where. You‘ll be back scratching at America’s door.
maxedout
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:06amWell, let me fill you in on a small fact……take a little holiday to any muslim country and try to preach the gospel of Jesus in a mosque. Here’s the fact….you’re D..E..D…dead. Matter of another fact, try that in any mosque in America. Odds are, regardless of what the local mullah, imam, whatever, tells you, the results will likely wind up the same….at some point. Good luck.
Report Post »Time for a drink.
JoeAmerica
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 4:51amAny Muslim country? What about the UNITED IRAQ OF AMERICA? Heard good old G.W. had a great Thanksgiving Holiday there. Ok, guess he wasn’t in a Mosque. But hey! who needs a Mosque when you own the whole country!! Yeeee Hawww
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:52am@ JOEAMERICA
Report Post »You loon if we owned Iraq oil would be free for us , but guess what it’s not , we pay for their oil in full .
You need to get off the bottle .
CatholiConservative
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:05am@ Joe- Hilary, is that you?
Report Post »Fina Biscotti
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:00amWow – I wonder – when the mosques are built, will the Muslims allow space to be used in their place of worship – if other religious groups do not have enough room or are waiting for their churches to be built?
Report Post »grandma7
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:09amAnother Italian? Love my Biscotti
Report Post »JoeAmerica
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 4:43amSilly American, we don’t need space in Muslim Mosques for worship.. We’ve invaded and took over two of their countries that tens of thousands of Christian (soldiers, doctors, nurses, contractors..ect.) pray in everyday. We have plenty of Muslim space to worship on…. Silly American.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:59am@ JOEAMERICA
Report Post »Cry baby cry & how many suicidal muslim bombers did you loose so far ?
Don‘t worry they’re enjoying the 72 hookers .
old white guy
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:58amfor sure . just check out how many christians churches there are in saudia arabia. they don’t need churches because they are allowed to use the mosques. sarc/
Report Post »Welcome Black Carter
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 9:18amOnly seems natural to have the mooslems in a church where Jesus is worshiped… acording to the *******, Jesus will return to behead all who do not submit to islam. The religion of peace…
Report Post »chips1
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:55pmWill they have two different doors like they do in restrooms and have a picture of that freak moHAMmad on one of them? I think you can find a picture in SOUTH Park!@!!
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 8:42pmSuprising to me how many people seem to worship an idol – a thing, a building. The temple was destroyed in AD 70. That is where God was worshipped. When Christ died, the veil was torn. There was no longer an isolated Holy of Holies. All Christians have direct access to God because of the atoning sacrifice and resurrection of Jesus. Check out Acts 7:47-49, Romans 16:5, 1 Cor 16:19, 2 Cor 5:1, Col 4:15, Heb 3:6, 1 Pet 2:5. These verses describe a much different sort of “house.” Your building is not God, nor is it his house. The Bible says God’s house is now in heaven (John 14:2). Jesus says he is the bridegroom, we are his bride, He is the head, we are the body. No house here.
Report Post »Fina Biscotti
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 2:58amEventually, the Muslims will take over the area – demand the church property to be turned over to them – just like in France.
It is in their DNA.
Report Post »JoeAmerica
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 4:36amIt’s in Muslim DNA to take over American churches, like it‘s in American’s DNA to take over Muslim countries. (is that right? this DNA stuff is confusing)
Report Post »komponist-ZAH
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:14am@Joe–
Report Post »Would you care to explain how it is that we’ve “taken over two muslim countries”, and yet they have retained their sovereignty?
GEW
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:30am@joe
Report Post »….and you are talking about what country?
JoeAmerica
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:45amPretty sure under Pres. Bush we used force to remove the governments of Afghanistan (Taliban) and Iraq (Saddam) and made sure of the installation of U.S. friendly Governments (Nation Building). Don‘t see how your sovereign when your country is controlled by guys riffles who don’t even come close to speaking your language. Seems quite the opposite. Are they to celebrate the equivalent to our July 4th.. The days when a Texan G.W. Bush decided they were his countries to build ??
Report Post »komponist-ZAH
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:56amNow you’re obfuscating (ho-hum, so predictable…). Just because we invaded and deposed authoritarian governments to establish more liberal ones which we then supported by military means does not mean we “took over”. If we had taken over, they would be territories of the U.S., i.e., they would have lost their status as sovereign nations.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:57am@ JOEAMERICA
Report Post »it‘s obvious that your DNA is a muslim one or you’re still confused about it , my best advice to you is the Maury Show & don‘t worry I won’t tell anyone .
JoeAmerica
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:35amWow..KOMPONIST.. you think we have the right to those countries to establish Governments because G.W. thinks so? Some of the oldest civilizations known to man. Pretty sure if I grab my gun and take over anything in this country that isn’t mine I would be arrested or shot. Remember that guy at the School Board Meeting? I will give you one thing KOMPONIST, although Iraq’s population is majority Muslim, Saddam ran a strict secular Government (i.e. the number 3 in his Government was a devoted Christian). So you may be able to say Iraq wasn’t a Muslim state. After the invasion WE became the government. WE had to run things.. WE had to police the place. WE had build the infrastructure back up (power plants, schools, police forces, army, ect..) and WE had to act as its Army protecting it’s borders… Don‘t know how you can’t define that as a “TAKE OVER” ???
Report Post »komponist-ZAH
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:46amI didn’t say we had right to “nation build”, I said we didn’t take over, i.e., there was no conquest, we do not “own” Iraq.
Report Post »912828Buckeye
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 7:27am@ FINA…….I don’t believe its in their DNA but it is in the teachings of the Koran.
Report Post »Kind of like letting the fox in the hen house.
Cobra Blue
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:08amJoeAmerica..
You spelled your name incorrectly. It’s spelled Joe “Anti” America. Course you liberals are all about form over substance. I ask myself why bother commenting. The Bible speaks against arguing with a FOOL. My bad…
Report Post »SilentReader
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 2:57amNo.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:03amShould Black Churches rent space for KKK meetings?
Should Rats rent cage space to snakes?
Should we elect socialist to the sentate?
All stupid questions, but not as stuipid as, should we allow the govt. to tell us we must buy a product.
mcfinch
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:14amA simple no… they are 2 different religions.
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Report Post »TheBMT
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:21amAhhh liberty. Whether we like it or not, they have the right to do so.
Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:22amNo.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:32amI’m sure muslims are dying to open their mosques for Christians to hold Sunday mass
Report Post »home_of_the_brave
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:37amInterestingly enough, I find no coincidence here. These two will merge. Check out http://www.worldtocome.org and watch the white horse episodes, I think theres three parts. He has some very interesting info on the Catholic church and the white horse from revelation.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:41amThere is no mandate in islam that the namaaz has to be offered inside a mosque.
Report Post »Muslims have been known to gather in open spaces and streets to pray , all over the world. They even did so in DC .
But now since they have this :
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/09/20/mosque-in-a-box/
they don’t need to offer namaz inside a church to claim it as a conquered place of worship in the name of islam , which is what the actual motive is here.
patriotwoman
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:41am@Tea Bag: “We” all know that do we? Well I don’t know that and I doubt that the majority of the readers here would agree with you.
It seems from your comment that you yourself have little tolerance either for Christian Churches or members of the Tea Party. Perhaps you should take the advice of a very wise man, “Judge not lest ye be judged.”
cheezwhiz
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:45amtea bag patriot
Report Post »Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:18am
Of course not.
We all know that there is no room for tolerance in christian churches.
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Tolerance is a two way street.
When it is just one way, its called submission.
BTW do you know the meaning of the arabic word — islam ?
JoeAmerica
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 4:29amI don’t mind.. But i think we should MAKE them sign a WAVIER that the church is NOT responsible if their young men (boys) get molested!
cheezwhiz
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 4:38amSo will the church remove the cross and all idols , and all the pews to make it islam-friendly ?
Report Post »Since muslims wouldn‘t feel comfortable in a kafir’s holy place , and we are all about making them feel comfortable !!
walkwithme1966
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 4:55amYes, it is the Christian thing to do – it is what Christ would do. It is the same as a Baptist Church letting a Jewish congregation have services in one of their rooms. http://wp.me/pYLB7-G6
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:02amFor all the anti-Christian trolls, here is a story .
Report Post »Read it and tell us what the moral of the story is
http://www.allaboutfrogs.org/stories/scorpion.html
RAS
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:16am@SILENTREADER, you have the right answer. It’s “no” and as simple as that. There is no “right” to access private property, Christian churches or otherwise, and it would be inappropriate to use any house of worship for other than for its intended faith.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:27amDo these Churches happen to be “ social justice” Churches?
Report Post »GEW
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:27amStrange, really strange. Kind of like running towards the tornado, then wondering why you where sucked up and spite out. Strange that the Muslims would set foot on the infidels floor.
In both Gospel of Mark and Matthew, Jesus condemns those who have been using the sacred temple as a marketplace, proclaiming that they have “made it a den of thieves.
Report Post »CatholiConservative
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:54amWhat ever happened to keep your friends close& your enemies closer- if they start radicalizing- they’ll be found out at a Christian church & if not, it’ll be an opportunity to extend a hand where it rarely goes
jbl8199
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:01amI agree with you there.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:10amThe virus of radical Islam lies dormant within the Islamic religion and is passed along to others within the Islamic faith. One never knows when or where it will surface.
Report Post »goldstox
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:37amHow much easier it will be when they say ” Mahdi give me aplace to worship …. THIS one !” what are the owners to do, but comply ….alas poor Yorik
Report Post »JCofPA
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 7:04amI agree with silent reader. No.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 7:07amanything for a buck
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 7:08amNo! These people want to exterminate us. Their “religion” orders that we should die or convert to their perverted beliefs.
Report Post »Would a Christian be allowed to enter Mecca???
Stupidity in the name of tolerance will NOT have a positive outcome.
Stuck_in_CA
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 7:22am@cheezwhiz
Report Post »“The Scorpion and the Frog”
Ain’t that the truth? Perfect!
tower7femacamp
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 7:27amgee won’t God strike those heathens dead for denigrating
his holy home ? I mean God has killed for with holding the tithe before
how could he allow Islamic religion in his house ?
A man named Ananias, however, with his wife Sapphira, sold a piece of property. He retained for himself, with his wife’s knowledge, some of the purchase price, took the remainder, and put it at the feet of the apostles. But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart so that you lied to the Holy Spirit and retained part of the land? While it remained unsold, did it not remain yours? And when it was sold, was it not still under your control? Why did you contrive this deed? You have lied not to human beings, but to God.” When Ananias heard these words, he fell down and breathed his last, and great fear came upon all who heard of it. The young men came and wrapped him up, then carried him out and buried him.
After an interval of about three hours, his wife came in, unaware of what had happened. Peter said to her, “Tell me, did you sell the land for this amount?” She said, “Yes, for that amount.” Then Peter said to her, “Why did you agree to test the Spirit of the Lord? Listen, the footsteps of those who have buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out.” At once, she fell down at his feet and breathed her last. When the young men entered they found her dead, so they carried her out and buried her beside her husband. And great fear came upon the whole church and upon all who heard of these things. (Acts 4:32-35; 5:1-11) New American Bible
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 7:29amshould we use them for bingo or bake sales ?
Report Post »BuckOfama
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 7:35amUnfortunately too many Churches worship a different God, the almighty Dollar……..
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 7:37am.
Report Post »Send no more money to the Heartsong Church in Cordova, Tenn., or Aldersgate United Methodist Church in Alexandria, Va. Cut off thier funds these are the same kind of people WHO KILLED JESUS.
Ironmaan
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 7:39amWTF is going on? Why not invite Satan in as well? The pastors are complete fools and the congregation should confront these fools and lay down the law! No Muslims! This insidious infiltration of this so-called religion must be stopped.
Report Post »http://guerillatics.com
SlimnRanger
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 7:53ama huge NO
Report Post »Cobra Blue
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:00amQuestion? What did Christ do to the momey changers in the temple. The Muslims are no different. Everything they stand for is anti-Christ. In my opinion, these congregations have taken compromise to a whole new level. As the prophet Samuel said to Saul…”behold, to obey is better than sacrifice.” It’s almost like they are defiling the temple i.e. the church. GOD help us and forgive is for our compromise.
Report Post »John_Free
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:07amNot if they are REAL Christian Churches.
This is something the Presbyterians, Anglicans and Unitarians would do.
Report Post »Xcori8r
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:08amThe moment I saw the story headline I thought of the scorpion and the frog – I see Cheez, did too.
On the same vein, should unions be allowed in government? Who is the public servant and who is the publics master?
How about gun stores in prisons?
AA meeting in a bar?
Brothel in a convent?
This is where liberal sentimentality corrodes common sense.
A mosque in a church will be OK the day they put a cathedral in Mecca.
Report Post »ozz
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:10amWe are instructed to love our neighbor as our selves.
Helping some one along the path to hell is not loving thy neighbor.
It is akin to knowingly loaning some one your spoon to eat poison.
I’m not even gonna touch the obvious desecrating the lords house with worship of false gods issue.
Report Post »Jeff
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:10amRight on…….Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Report Post »enduro
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:11amGod lives in my heart. There is no room in my heart for islam. This is the religion of satan and the christians are selling out and cowering down to the dark force. As glenn said, right is wrong, up is down. I don’t recognize this place anymore. Whats going on?
Report Post »JimOhio
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:26amShould CPAC schedule CPUSA speakers? Good grief NO! I will pray that Allah the moon god WILL NOT be worshipped at the UMC I attend. This is one more example of how Liberals are constantly picking at every fiber of life in order to make secularism acceptable. Rather than accepting and adhering to the word of God, they would rather shape Gods word to reflect current culture values. One more way they can feel good about themselves without themselves having to change.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:26amNudge, nudge, push, shove. Absolutely not, they can find their own place to rent and hold services.
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:29amOnly if they want a fire-eyed Jesus turning tables over. Just sayin’.
Report Post »Jackers
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:30amExcellent point, Cheezwhiz… Tolerance is “supposed” to work both ways; but in this case, it will not… Islam and Christianity are like oil and water – They just don’t mix.
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:32am@WALKWITHME
Report Post »You continue to astound. Jesus, the Son of God, would want a group of people who follow a false religion where they OPENLY DENY that Jesus is the Son of God to come and worship their own god in His house?!? Have you ever read the book of Revelation?? Do you have any sense of understanding at all?!? Other than the Huff-Po and Media Matters sites, of course……
pdh42
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:44amThey have the right to rent their churches to whoever they want…. I would just question why a so called Christian church would allow a so called religion into their church to use it???? Do they think that God would allow them to worship in His Holy of Holies knowing that they were worshiping something other than Him???? I don’t think so…. No matter what some may say Islam does NOT worship the same God that Christians do….
Report Post »Ghenkis_Khan
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:49amPerhaps the Muslims should let some Christian or Jewish people use their mosques for worship.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 9:03am“@Yes, it is the Christian thing to do – it is what Christ would do. It is the same as a Baptist Church letting a Jewish congregation have services in one of their rooms. http://wp.me/pYLB7-G6”
Um…no, not really. Unless you mean the post 1960‘s Hippy Jesus that was invented to make Jesus into some guy without values who walked around putting flowers in people’s hair while playing folk music.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 9:08amUsing their logic if satanist had no place to worship they should rent them space as well.
Report Post »Curioso
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 9:33amI must disagree with the no’s I see because the Koran says that Jews, Christians and Muslims worship the same one and only god. If you don’t believe me do your own research. This is a good way to promote understanding and cooperation between non radical Islam and Christians. Makes perfect sense to me.
Report Post »http://www.dtl.org/treatise/islam/christianity-1.htm
independentvoteril
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 9:54amNO.. what are they NUTS…?
Report Post »IronSights
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 10:02amUh……NO, it’s a house of God, where people worship, praise, and lift up His name. It’s not a REC hall to rent out. To bring in an opposing religion would be to desecrate His house of worship.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 10:13amWhat fellowship may light and darkness have. Not surprising given most churches don’t practice true biblical discipline within their own congregation even though it is commanded in Scripture. The church has been swept up in the wave of PC and as a result has lost most of it’s “saltiness” as community preserving groups. Due to misunderstood biblical passages mandates of true love have been exchanged for the gushy “don’t offend anyone“ ”warm fuzzies”. The Church should be about proclaiming the gospel of Jesus to these people for they are destined for an eternity in hell apart from the revelation and acceptance of the gospel of Jesus Christ. This is a perfect example of why the American church has become so weak and largely ineffective, because she has abandoned her post of preaching the truth and has in many instances bowed her knee to the alter of PC. The justification of extending a hand to these people is just that, a justification. Of course they have the freedom to do such a foolish thing, but they also have a responsibility before the Lord that they will give an account for someday.
Report Post »Curioso
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 10:15amHere is a link to the actual Qur’an read 29:46 itsays it all.
Report Post »http://www.submission.org/suras/sura29.html
Docrow
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 10:18amNo
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 10:36amI think this article really misses the more important question:
Report Post »Should Fox News take it upon themselves to police the way individual congregations in America practice their faith?
So people here aren’t concerned that this same network that airs horrendously degrading reality shows is taking it upon itself to ask “is this Christian?”
watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 10:47amnice attempt at diversion PPMAN
Report Post »Blacktooth
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 11:22amWhat fellowship does Light have with Darkness?
Report Post »Didn’t Jesus tell us to beware of false prophets?
Polwatcher
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 11:42amIf you like Satan, you will love Islam. Why on earth should a supposedly Christian church share quarters with Satan or the Anti-Christ.
Report Post »brinksmom
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 11:51amNO NO A thousand times NO!
Report Post »UPSETVET
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 11:58amAre Muslim Mosques going to open their facilities for Christian Church services ? Of course not, since Muslim policy is the extermination of all infidels or Non-Muslims. How about the NAACP sharing their facilities with the Klu Klux Klan or McDonalds with Burger King, Walmart with K-Mart etc.. Who came up with this brilhant idea, Barack Hussein Obama or Michelle Obama ?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 12:04pmI am not surprised that one of the churches is a United Methodist .. I quit them years ago because of their “liberalism”. (actually I am surprised they aren’t both / more)
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 12:26pmI checked out Heart Song Church website and if you investigate their own messages I think you will see quickly that they pride themselves on being different and “inclusive” to the point they are the PC church poster child. A programmized church with the “warm fuzzies” trying to tell people how special they are (which we are) without telling them about the need to repent of sin. What a shame that they would let a religion whose spiritual puppet master is Satan to worship in their building. Would they let psychics have events in their building, yet the same force that’s behind one (psychics.divination) is behind the other (Islam). No wonder Scripture says of leaders in……….Israel’s ( and USAs) watchmen are blind, they all lack knowledge; they are all mute dogs, they cannot bark; they lie around and dream, they love to sleep.
http://www.heartsongchurch.net/#/about-us
Report Post »gobluebuckeye
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 12:52pmThat is just the dumbest suggestion in quite a while. If this was done over time they could make a case that it was there building and they have a right to worship there, would it be true? no. Would they try to claim it, yes.. Also, how about —-Thou shall not have any other Gods before me??? In a place that worships the one true God, the practice of a false religion in a building that was set aside to worship God, does not sound like a good idea.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 1:02pmWatchtheOtherHand,
If you are accusing me of trying to divert a bunch of Beck bots away from attacking a small group of people exercising their right to practice their religious beliefs according to their own consciences, then I suppose I don’t have any problem with being guilty.
So this is what the Tea Party is about? Keep the government out of everything so that Fox News and The Blaze are free to criticize how individual communities practice Christianity?
Report Post »Kookaburra
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 1:03pmI love all these blogs. You people are great.
I am sick sick sick of this rhetoric! What idiot would rent space to Muslims? Have they not taken over enough imposing their vermin on the world? I don’t care if you are one denomination of Christianity or another. When will people understand that Islam is a faith of the Devil, diametrically opposed to all forms of Christianity. They worship the demon god of the Moon whose name is (get ready for this one…) “Sin.” His wife is the Sun goddess and they have daughter children who are the stars of the sky. A direct mockery of what the Lord told Abraham that He would make his descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky. ———- And you let them in your houses of worship? You Christians???
Abraham’s legitimate son Isaac was to inherit the Promised Land. Abraham’s illegitimate son Ishmael was not to inherit that land. This was God’s plan. Read about it. Isaac went the way of his father and the faith of the Hebrews, the Chosen People. Ishmael headed the Ishmaelites, pagan idol worshippers, who are today’s Muslims. Ishmael’s own mother, Hagar, was an Egyptian, of pagan persuasion. The Old Testament even speaks of the Ishmaelites decorating their caravans and camels with the symbol of the crescent moon after their false god of the Moon, Sin. To this day, the Muslims who were yesterday’s Ishmaelites, use the crescent moon and star on their Islamic flag.
Are you getting the picture? That’s right, keep letting them into your homes, schools, churches, government, and see what else happens. It will make 9-11 look like a walk in the park.
This is a Holy War folks. How surprising that most people never saw it coming. However, the Jews always saw it coming. They are always fighting on their own, being squeezed out of their land. They are one tough people who won’t give up on that Promised Land God gave them. I just wish they would accept the Messiah Jesus for who He is. They would save themselves a lot of grief.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 1:07pmIslam enters in peace and makes it theirs and holds it in violence!
Report Post »BecksTheMan
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 1:12pmThe leaders of those churches are absolute boneheads for even considering this. Muslims worship a different God and therefore that would defile their church. This is in violation of the first commandment.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 1:27pmPPMAN I am suggesting exactly that…you are guilty of a diversionary tactic. Assuming that you are not a Christian based on some of you other postings I am sure you don’t understand the problem of a Christian church doing something like this. No one has argued that they don’t have the freedom to do it. But as a Christian when you see what many regard as anti-biblical practices then it behooves those that hold those truths to expose the error and false behaviors that stray from that truth to preserve the integrity of the original message. Please don’t give the tired argument “ show me where that is in the Bible”. Obviously covering this very specific example it is not. It is when the Bible is read and taken as a whole that guiding principles and example can very easily be understood and applied to all types of scenarios in life. It amazes me how many think they are bible scholars and misquote, take out of context, and twist the meaning of scripture when they detest everything it stands for, do not practice it, or read it. (not necessarily you PPMAN) . If I am mistaken about your “faith” then forgive me for my presumption, but I still think you diverted from the topic to try and make another point. No one said they didn’t have the freedom that I read anywhere.
Report Post »Old Truckers
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 1:27pmNever, never invite a camel into your tent.
Report Post »Don’t ever pet a flaming dog.
tvaf2010
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 2:09pmShould mosque in the middle east rent space for christians? I don’t think we would see that question being asked over there.
Report Post »DirectlyUnPCman
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 2:30pmWhy would muslims want to worship in a christian house?
Report Post »GODBLESSOURCOUNTRY
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 2:48pmI thought Christians were the “Devil”? Aren’t they afraid they are going to burst into flames stepping foot in a Christian place of worship?
There is no place for Muslims in a Christian house of worship.
Does the history of Constantinople ring a bell with anyone? The “it won’t happen here” mentality has to stop, because it DID happen here – i.e. 9/11. Let them pray to Allah in their homes – not our places of worship.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:33pmMy two cents…I believe Jesus would be HIGHLY disapointed in America’s so called Houses of God…I think he would say…why not..they already belong to satan…organized religion is a man-made enterprise and you would be hard pressed to find a biblical church in America..but…where two and three gather in my name…these I will bless…
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:33pmWatchtheOtherHand,
While you are accusing me of creating a “diversion,” you‘ve completely avoided addresses what I’ve said with both your responses. In fact, the bulk of your last response had nothing to do with me! And you call me evasive! So you think that Fox News should be interrogating the issue of whether one or another Congregation is being Christian or not?
“as a Christian when you see what many regard as anti-biblical practices then it behooves those that hold those truths to expose the error and false behaviors that stray from that truth to preserve the integrity of the original message.”
So, you think Fox News should also be exposing the “errors” in Judaism? Or Hinduism? You don’t want government to tell you what to do–you want to tell OTHERS what to do and how to worship. That stinks of hypocrisy my friend.
Report Post »AnnMarie
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:37pmOnly when they build Christian churches in the Muslim countries..
Report Post »CONAN THE CONSERVATIVE
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:44pmSure. Why not.
Report Post »Let the Baal worshipers rent too.
Let the Satanists rent space too.
Rent it out to anyone who would defile; it can’t hurt to make an extra few bucks.
God and Mammon…
watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:56pm@ PPMAN……I am afraid you are missing the point I was trying to make and it is not off topic at all. I was explaining that no one is telling them they can’t do it as you are wrongly asserting I am doing. But as a Christian when an organization representing that faith strays from fairly mainstream principles then it is the duty of those who want to protect the original intended message to speak up. Not to limit those peoples right to practice their faith that way, but to be an alarm to those that would be “led astray” by a false or damaging instruction. If I would stray from the truth I would want someone else to be critical of me. And as far as Fox news or the blaze commenting on this…….they do it because it is a controversial subject matter that most definitely reflects current issues with regard to Islam and this nation including Christianity. I do not read anything in the article or in ANYONES comments that they are saying these people don’t have the freedom to do this or worship however they want to. So your hypocrisy statement is infantile and not dealing with the facts of others or what I have stated. But it sure sounds like a good slam when you are arguing with someone. BTW you do realize PPMAN that by railing against me you are telling someone how they should act and what they should do and how they should live their faith by essentially saying sit down and shut up. That my friend is a logical contradiction you are guilty of. Accusing me of doing what you just argued for against me. Just so you understand….I am not evading anything you have said….NO ONE is saying they can’t do it, just pointing out to others the error in what they are doing so as to protect truth. Also Fox news/blaze reporting on it did not point out any error but the controversy surrounding this topic because of the tensions in the world involving Islam particularly in this country. And BTW news agencies point out errors in religion every day sir. Molestation in Catholic priest cases. Abortion stances of politicians and clergy responses, Radical Islam and how it so differs from the “peace loving” Muslims. They constantly talk about religion of the Middle East and how it effects social and political events. I sure hope you could acknowledge that at least.
Report Post »ProgessiveFail
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:58pmLOL at the trolls here, I love when they call us anti Christian. I personally think this is politcal correctness run amok.No religeon should be practiced in a christian church other than Christianty, they can worship outside but you don’t worship Allah in the house of Christ, sorry…
1. I am the Lord your God, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery;
Do not have any other gods before me.
Oh and all the commie marxists out there should take a look at 9, and 10.
Report Post »charliego
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:59pmNo
Report Post »theCREATORisGOD
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 4:02pmAbsolutely not! Our churches are God’s temple, as Joshua said “As for me and my house we will serve the Lord.” Not We will serve the Lord and then when we are not serving rent the building out to Mooslems who worship another god and some plot our demise.
As the Muslim cleric in London said “one day there will be an Islamic flag flying over the white house…” this is just another step to Islamasize America, but let me say this, over my dead body would a Muslim flag EVER fly over my White House!!!
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 4:10pm“BTW you do realize PPMAN that by railing against me you are telling someone how they should act and what they should do and how they should live their faith by essentially saying sit down and shut up.”
I am doing nothing of sort. Starting a debate on the subject is exactly the opposite of telling you to sit down and shut up. Please, stop playing the victim. My point here is that for all the Tea Party griping about the “nanny state,” a lot of you Blazers seems perfectly alright with critiquing and pressuring people who don’t agree with you.
Report Post »ProgessiveFail
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 4:45pmPubliusPencilman says..
“My point here is that for all the Tea Party griping about the “nanny state,” a lot of you Blazers seems perfectly alright with critiquing and pressuring people who don’t agree with you.”
Ridiculous, there are people whom I simply don’t agree with, then there is Islam. They are worlds apart. Islam is not compatible with Western values, fact. We tolerate Islam, Islam does not tolerate us, fact. It’s Islamic appeasers like yourself who are willfully ignorant to Islam. Read the Koran sometime. The liberals will be the first to loose their heads if they’re not careful.
Google “Eugene armstrong beheading”, watch the video, then tell me if what you see is pure evil or not. We need to remember what they did, and what they want to do to us all, “allah willing” Don‘t let Eugene’s horrible death be in vain.
Report Post »Islam is evil.
Can you handle reality? I think not…
watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:31pm@ PPMAN ……Let me re-state again that you were upset with me (and others) saying …”You don’t want government to tell you what to do–you want to tell OTHERS what to do and how to worship.“ What I pointed out was that you were just as guilty of ”telling others what to do and how to do it” when you were arguing against what I had done. That is a logical contradiction according to the logical order of debate. And to state one more time …..no one has stated anywhere I have read that they don’t have the right or freedom to do what they did, but like wise I have the same freedom to point and critique what I feel is a gross error concerning the principles found in the Bible and thus make others aware of what I believe is a harmful practice so they may not be influenced by Christian error. This is not in contradiction to wanting a government to protect our freedoms by staying out of our lives as you put it. We have not attacked those people’s freedom to worship any ole way they want. But we have called into question there wisdom in dong so. Just like you have the freedom to do the same thing when you feel people are somehow unfair in their critiques. You may be wrong or in error and we can debate that but you have that freedom. We have done nothing more or nothing less here nor has the blaze or fox news done ANYTHING that any other news outlet does and there is more than enough proof if you really want to go there. Neither have any of these commentators done anything that you have suggested in your previous posts. No one has said, “they have no right”, “they can’t do that”, or “stop those people”. They have simply pointed out those churches actions do not seem to be consistent with what most Christians consider an authoritative source on their faith…..The Bible.
Report Post »Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 5:32pmIf one wishes to make ends meet by invite Satan to be worshipped a a house of the Lord so be it.
Report Post »Thank goodness the Lord doesn’t remain in buildings like in the old testament. remember the rendering of the curtain? it is the Holy Spirit who resides in us. the buildings will have every stone overturned.
txbigfoot
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:09pmHell no
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:11pm@GODLUVINMOM….while you are most definitely right that we are the temple of the Holy Spirit and the buildings we worship in are no more sacred then our homes. We should be very careful about the purposes we use the material things we have. Would you approve of allowing the building to be rented out as a strip joint? It is an extreme example but as a God lovin’ mom I think you recognize that this would be entering into a relationship with those stripping and thus probably would not send a good message or represent your faith in an appropriate way. As a false religion that promotes doctrines of demons and will be responsible for the condemnation of many many souls for eternity due to the deception that is preached according to Christian belief, Islam is no less evil and no less desirable to enter into this kind of relationship.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:13pm@ GODLUVINMOM…..If I misunderstood your last post then just ignore me because I agreed with the other things you posted. I think I just misunderstood what you were trying to say.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:16pmsorry libertyluvnmomma not godluvinmoma
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Posted on February 21, 2011 at 6:19pm@ PPMAN I guess we and the media shouldn’t be interfering with the WESTBORO baptists and how they want to practice their faith either huh? I will speak against their twisted sense of the Christian faith in the same way. They may have the freedom, but we have the freedom to challenge them and we will. and BTW I think you will see every news outlet has reported on that sir.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 7:00pmwatchtheotherhand…I said orgainzed religion is pretty much crap…but totally agree with libertyluvinmom…not too much we can do about it…until these churches get their houses in order and stop putting money before Jesus…well there you go…
Report Post »getalong
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 7:06pmThe bible tells you exactly what happens “when the sacrilegous object is placed in the Lord’s temple….” It ain’t pretty.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 7:28pmI know GODLUVINMOM….got you and LIBERTYLUVNMOMMA mixed up sorry and I agree with you on the state of the American church taken on a whole. We should not be surprised at all ……1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. 2 Peter 2. That is why our churches are in a mess because of false teachers.
Report Post »texashayden
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 7:38pmLets see, why not just invite a child molester into your home and let them share a bed with you daughter. ARE THESE PEOPLE INSANE!!!!!!
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:02pmI can see a case for this if it is not the sancturay being used. It would be one great way to make friends with Muslims and introduce them to the Gospel. I don’t know if that is in the minds of these churches, but Jesus died for Muslims too, and the church exists to spread the Gospel not just to worship Jesus by itself.
We should remember the primacy of the Great Commission. Without evangelism the church has no reason to be.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 8:32pmwatch..thats exactly why I pray for wisdom when I read God’s word for myself…enjoy your comments…
Report Post »DisillusionedDaily
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 9:08pmThose Muslims that are not trying to impose their beliefs on us and who would not want to see Sharia Law imposed upon American society should be accepted as equals. I think the idea of churches reaching out to help our Muslim friends goes a long way toward solidifying good relations.
Report Post »democratgirl
Posted on February 21, 2011 at 11:25pmThe moment my church does this, I will drop all financial tithing I provide and leave. Jesus does not want our compassion misguided. THERE IS ONLY 1 PATH TO HEAVEN (John 14:6, Acts 2:38, Acts 4:12) and that is through Jesus Christ. Islam is the faith of Satan.
Report Post »TOPHERnBRLA
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 12:19amThe Mormons should let Muslims use their temples to worship. Both are made up religions/cults and are satanically influenced. That way the stink of Muslim feet wouldn’t defile real Christian churches.
Before you Deseret dogs attack me; do your homework on how Muslims came to have the 1/4 moon on top of their mosques- the symbol of the ancient moon God “Attah”- and then find out who Joseph Smith admired and emulated… hint: Starts with “Mo” ends in “med” and has a “ha” in the middle…
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 12:43am@cheezwhiz
Report Post »Posted on February 21, 2011 at 3:32am
I’m sure muslims are dying to open their mosques for Christians to hold Sunday mass
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Don’t know about their attitude about it, but, as a Christian, I’d be afraid of a bomb being detonated in the middle of the service.
Islammustbestopped
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 1:35amWhy is this even a question? Do u want terrorists moving next door to your home? That’s what the question should be. Come on this is ridiculous. How could you guys even ask that question. How about this, go ask any mosque in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, or Iran if we can rent out their mosque and use it to worship. They would behead you. What is it about the west I thought we were smart? Start studying and learning about how evil the religion is before you make ignorant questions or comments.
Report Post »Brooke Lorren
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 1:51amI know that my church wouldn’t. Nor would most of the churches that my church associates with.
Would some churches rent out mosque space? I wouldn’t doubt it. There are plenty of “Christian” churches out there with wishy-washy ideas that don’t really stand up for the entire Bible. The number of Christians that really stand up for what the Bible believes and won’t compromise is fairly small, compared to the number of churches out there.
Report Post »colonial10
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 2:24amIf they can prove their allegiance to God and the Constitution then yes. We have to be mindful that all Muslims are not Jihadist’s. If they don‘t show allegiance to God and the Constitution they shouldn’t be here.
Report Post »1marinesthoughts
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 7:37amWould they Let these same Christians hold worship and prayers in their mosque?
If the mosque leaders say yes then Iam OK with this in the name of religious tolerance and what Jesus teaches us that we are to love thy neighbor.
If the mosque leaders say no then all the Christians are doing is making them selfs look weak to the Muslims.
Report Post »thorkyl
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 8:07amI think our church should, we attend a Cowboy church.
Report Post »They are more than welcome to go pray in the cattle and hog pens out back behind the Church
DrFrost
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 12:27pmAs THEBMT pointed out, if a christian church wants to rent space to muslims, they are, of course, allowed to do that. But to address the original question: SHOULD they? I have to agree with Silentreader. Christians should be neighborly to those in need. And they definitely need to show God’s love towards these muslims. But they should never compromise the christian ideals in doing so and it seems to me that renting space to them for religious services helps them further their religion… a decidedly non-christian religion… Which is NOT something that Jesus would have done.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 12:57pmWatchtheOtherHand,
That is a good point about the Westboro Baptist lunacy, but I think your inability to tell the difference between that and this Tennessee congregation is exactly the problem. While they were certainly exercising their Constitutional rights, Westboro was staging a public event deliberately designed to provoke people and spread hate. The media circus surrounding that event was that nutjob preacher’s intention.
This issue in TN is quite the opposite. Fox News and The Blaze are trying to drum up national controversy based on whether a small congregation in TN is acting “Christian” or not. Again, I’ll ask whether if you and Fox are so compelled to police the truth of your particular practice, should Fox be reporting on how “wrong” the Jews or Hindus are?
Report Post »luvlibertylady
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 5:03pmI strongly disagree with the churches that do this, simply because this is NOT what it means to be a Christian. A Christian professes his faith in Jesus Christ and is commanded to “witness” to unbelievers of the saving Grace of God .Christians are to tell or preach the Gospel(Good News) to those unbelievers. It sounds great to some that those churches are opening their doors to Muslims,so the can worship in that building, But are the church members telling the Muslims of the Salvation of Jesus Christ?? If not, then they are 100% WRONG.
Report Post »extreme001
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 6:36pmThe koran is a guide to take over the world,plain and simple. Word of beheading the unbelievers is in this book. This book and this religion is in no way associated with christianity except that the koran is the complete opposite of the bible. NO KORAN IN A CHRISTIAN CHURCH,EVER!.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 8:07pmIt is my understanding that the Church of Jesus Christ is not a building, it is the body of believers. We worship Jesus and endanger ourselves when we begin to worship a building. The building is only a tool, if one is available. A Church can worship outside a building, in a home, in a school, in a stadium, in an arena – anywhere two or more are gathered in His name. Aside from that, there are sensitivities involved, and I don’t think Islam and Christianity are on such friendly terms. However if we were to show love, perhaps some Muslims might get interested in our faith. Would it be worthywhile if one were saved? Two? Well, you get my point.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:02pmsparky..I too believe in reaching out…but…poring your pearls to the swine?…like so many agrue with ABC..KILLA..BROKER…etc…do you really think you will change the minds of these people…I think not…all things are possible…but don’t think so on this…just like no matter what obama does…the same libral fools will vote for him…I just pray more independents are waking up.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 12:05amGodluvinmom, no, I do not think i will change their minds. I think the word of God will change their minds. But they won’t listen if I am abrasive, mean and nasty, or let them think I look down on them. I must try to love them as Jesus does, and remember his words “Father forgive them for they know not what they do.” They don’t know. It isn‘t their fault until they’ve heard the word of God and rejected it. They won’t hear the word of God unless I earn their respect and the right to tell them. I cannot do that by shutting them out. I can only do that with love. God’s word will not return void.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 1:06amsparky..I hear ya…sometimes I forget what compassion our Saviour had for all…I do enjoy the debate though!
Report Post »homeschoolnetcast
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 8:38pmWell said. I think many people take a very liberal view at tolerance.
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