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Should Maine School Be Spending $200k on iPads for 5-yr-olds?

Should Maine School Be Spending $200k on iPads for 5 yr olds?

PORTLAND, Maine (AP) — Kindergarten classes are supplementing crayons, finger paints and flashcards with iPads, a development that excites supporters but that detractors worry is wasted on pupils too young to appreciate the expense.

Next fall, nearly 300 kindergartners in the central Maine city of Auburn will become the latest batch of youngsters around the country to get iPad2 touchpad tablets to learn the basics about ABCs, 1-2-3s, drawing and even music.

“It’s definitely an adventure, and it’ll be a journey of learning for teachers and students,” said Auburn kindergarten teacher Amy Heimerl, who received an iPad on Tuesday ahead of the full deployment in the fall. “I’m looking forward to seeing where this can take us and our students.”

But the $200,000 that Superintendent Tom Morrill is proposing to spend on iPads – which retail for around $500 – might be better spent on some other school program, said Sue Millard of Auburn, who has children in the fourth grade and high school. She also questions whether kindergartners are old enough to appreciate the effort.

“I understand you have to keep up with technology, but I think a 5-year old is a little too young to understand,” she said.

Maine was the first state to equip students statewide with computers when it distributed Apple laptops to all seventh- and eighth-graders in 2002 and 2003. The program has since expanded, with laptops parceled out to about 50 percent of high school students.

The state Department of Education says it believes Auburn is the first school district in Maine that will give iPads to kindergartners. The school board last week unanimously approved the plan to give all kindergartners iPads next fall.

The iPad is a powerful education tool with hundreds of teaching applications, Morrill said. With its touchpad screen, it’s simple to use and can bring learning to life with imagery and sounds, he said.

“It’s a revolution in education,” Morrill said.

Apple spokeswoman Trudy Muller declined to comment on how iPads are being used in schools, but dozens of school districts around the country have been giving iPads to students. Schools in Omaha, Neb.; Columbiana, Ohio; Huntington, W. Va.; Paducah, Ky.; Charleston, S.C.; and Scottsdale, Ariz., are among the places where kindergarten pupils are using them.

Angus King, the former Maine governor who launched the state’s laptop program, said the idea of iPads in kindergarten wows him. Anything that holds the attention of pupils will help in the learning process, he said.

“If your students are engaged, you can teach them anything,” King said. “If they’re bored and looking out the window, you can be Socrates and you’re not going to teach them anything. These devices are engaging.”

Morrill is convinced that in the end, using iPads to teach kindergarten will lead to improved student proficiency scores.

Heimerl, one of five kindergarten teachers in the district who got iPads on Tuesday, was impressed as she checked out apps for phonics, building words, letter recognition and letter formation.

“The more education teachers have using these tools the better we can enhance children’s learning and take them to that next level,” said Heimerl, a teacher at Park Avenue Elementary School.

Not everyone is sold. Larry Cuban, professor emeritus of education at Stanford University and the author of “Oversold and Underused: Computers in Schools,” said there’s no proof that computers bring learning benefits to pupils that young.

“There’s no evidence in research literature that giving iPads to 5-year-olds will improve their reading scores,” he said.

Peter Pizzolongo of the National Association for the Education of Young Children, based in Washington, said iPads can be an effective supplement to three-dimensional objects, whether they be books or building blocks.

“We can’t say whether what the school district in Maine or anywhere else is doing is good or not good, but what we can say is when the iPad or any other technological tool is used appropriately, then it‘s a good thing for children’s learning,” he said.

The best use of iPads is probably in elementary and special education classes because the devices are so easy to use, said Nick Sauers of Iowa State University’s Center for the Advanced Study of Technology Leadership in Education. There are hundreds of education apps to choose from with a touch to the screen.

Sauers expects a boom soon, with most current iPad initiatives being billed as pilot or experimental programs.

“I think next year is when we’ll see our first big bubble,” Sauers said. “There will be districts next year that implement it school-wide, whether it be at the high school level or elementary level.”

Morrill said most of the criticism has been about the costs during tough economic times – not about whether tablet computers are age-appropriate.

He said he plans to raise the money needed for about 325 iPads and teacher training from foundations, the federal government, the local school department and other sources.

As bullish as he is on the kindergarten iPad, he cautions that it needs to be properly supervised and isn’t a panacea.

“I’m not saying they should be on this 24-7,” he said. “The students still need to move, get up, dance, socialize.”

Comments (111)

  • Salamander
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:54pm

    Why not! It‘s JUST the taxpayers’ money! And, with progressive income taxes, not only do the ‘rich’ taxpayers get ‘stuck’ for ‘their fair share’, they have fewer children in the public schools, so the ‘poor’ kids get more computers per capita than those nasty rich kids! Social ‘Justice’ at its best!!! All people are equal, but poor people are more equal!

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  • parlayer
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:33pm

    CAUSE you can play games!!!

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  • teddrunk
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:32pm

    Well they could of spent the money on pink nail polish for the little boys. So I guess this isn’t so bad.

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  • neverending
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:31pm

    I believe some of the funds to buy these come from obama’s Race to the Top program. A program that needs to end but from what I have read he made sure it did not get cut from the budget battle. Biggest waste of money because the administrators of the program win big and as usual our kids lose.

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  • thegreatcarnac
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:24pm

    I agree…they can buy as many as their little hearts desire…I don’t live there.

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  • teddrunk
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:24pm

    Well if it the Milwaukee Public School System the teachers would be demanding that money be used to pay for their free Viagra. So, I Pads seem like a pretty good deal by comparison.

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  • etecs
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:19pm

    I wonder how we ever made it through K-12 without laptops and iPads? Sniff – Sniff …. I smell some kind of a Federal brainstorm here…. I wonder if this money came from DC,,,, Like other states, Maine is slashing teacher positions and consolidating schools to save money…….. And they find this kind of money for kindergarten kids………????? What happens to the warranty when little Johnny uses his for a Frisbee?

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  • Dannowood
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:17pm

    It could be a great tool for parents who want to homeschool. We could shut down more indoctrination centers.

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  • Cherynn
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:09pm

    Its soooooooo easy to spend other peoples money. I wish I could do it one day. Maybe I could get an iPad too.

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    • DisforDingleberries
      Posted on April 13, 2011 at 11:00am

      Identity theft is becoming a career for some people…. but an easier (and entirely *appropriate*) way to do so would be to join congress yourself…

      *appropriate in terms of legal with absolutely no ramifications

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  • debbdi
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:08pm

    In answer to the title from this Mainer…NO, NO, NO!!!!! Nor should they be given laptops in 7th grade (as they are and have been for many years)..

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  • riseandshine
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:05pm

    they can knock themselves out. i don’t live in maine

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  • champton
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:00pm

    Easy to use??? How hard is it, to hold up flash cards? Or, to fingerpaint? Dumbing down the children. Let the computer give them the answers.

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  • Phaeton
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:59pm

    That is a lot of money to give to some big rich corporation. Apple should donate all of them. Very UnLiberal.

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  • LadyIzShy
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:59pm

    teachers need to do thier job and stop looking for a way out of it.. if you do not want to teach get out of the classroom

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  • Islesfordian
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:58pm

    “Maine was the first state to equip students statewide with computers when it distributed Apple laptops to all seventh- and eighth-graders in 2002 and 2003. ”

    Working as a Sub in the Maine schools I have seen how students often use their computers. Their time could be much better spent. BUT it takes a load off teachers who can just tell them to search the internet for stuff rather than leading them through more didactic methods like lectures or textbook lesson. It’s rather like the educational opportunities of TV. Just plop your kid in front of THAT and he”l be entranced for hours.

    How could it hurt? (cough, cough)

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  • musinglife
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:56pm

    In answer to the title: NO. I live in Maine and I have not been able to get an ipad yet and the kindergartners are getting them? Now if we can do away with the teachers………

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:54pm

    mind and soul control.

    The answer is NO!

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  • Psychosis
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:52pm

    ive got a better idea …………..get rid if teachers

    take a look at this site, and the curriculum it offers …………….for FREE

    http://www.khanacademy.org/

    my son who is now in 6th grade, had a heart attack and viral meningitis when he was 3 mo old, and he has some learning difficulties ……..was doing really poor in school, until i found this site and now he is growing in leaps and bounds

    its not what is being taught, its how its being taught ( of course im only talkning about the 3 R’s, not hte social crap they are also indoctrinating into our children )

    i suggest parents check it out, and even adults that need a refresher ……it goes all the way to some college math courses ……………….enjoy

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    • psycodad36
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:02pm

      thanks for the link

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    • Showtime
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 10:24pm

      I recognized the word “Algebra.” Everything under it was written in a foreign language. Either that or I developed instantaneous Alzheimer’s disease!

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    • Psychosis
      Posted on April 13, 2011 at 4:40am

      @ showtime ……………………lol

      i hear ya times sure have changed, lol

      you could always self learn lol but trust me, not even the politicians in washington go above 4th grade math……………………….have you seen their budgets, and their explanations? they should be taking this course lol

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    • sister1_rm
      Posted on April 13, 2011 at 10:31am

      Thanks for the link. I’m planning on homeschooling my kids and am screening websites for teaching resources (my oldest is three and I’m already giving him pre-school at home and we’re loving it).

      I definitely need the math for myself. I’m going to give your link a closer look when I get the time.

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  • stifroc
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:48pm

    Seriously?
    How bout teachers actually do their job and teach the alphabet and, the color wheel, and other fundamentals instead of letting some app do their job. But hey, school districts are so strapped for cash right now that everyone has to vote YES to approve the local school dist tax levy or else they will be “forced” to cut sports and music from the curriculum…. but at least the kindergarten kids will have iPads.

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    • psycodad36
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:59pm

      yeh,you notice how it’s always sports and music.in schools.and cops &firemen in (town state city)budgets that are ALLWAYS the first on the chopping block?

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  • psycodad36
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:48pm

    Hey ,if they can afford through they’re taxes to turn the kids brains into sheeple.if thats the prevailing mannerisms there,what do i care,aint my kids not learning to think and do for themselves.my children got they’re hands dirty and learned from the environment around them to rely on themselves.
    I wouldnt allow my children to be brainwashed,they can and will survive.
    now if this is just recess play stuff,(kinda expensive) then so be it .books are for learning.

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  • roostercogburn
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:46pm

    No wonder we are BROKE, wonder how many of these kids can read and write after all this money is wasted, impeach and recall these clowns now, this is an insult, just stop wasting our money NOW.

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    • hauschild
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:03pm

      Too late. Most of us slept when the damage was occurring and did nothing to stop it.

      What I am sheepishly looking forward to is now that the dirt bags are damaging “our” way of life, what they are doing to this country will also have a negative effect on “their” way of life, in the not-to-distant future. Too bad these people are too stupid to realize they’re soon gonna be hanging in their own nooses, and I‘m gonna be kickin’ back lovin’ every minute of it.

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  • Ellbee
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:46pm

    “If the students are engaged…”????
    If the teachers are doing their jobs, the students will be engaged.

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  • lovenfl3
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:45pm

    Let me answer that question…..no! The kids have enough distractions as it is. Giving them iPads is no substitute for good teaching. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF5CL4gmeOw Good teaching is what we need, not bribing the kids with more toys.

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  • BetterDays
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:44pm

    BUT I DON’T WANT TO TAKE A NAP, SMASH…CRUNCH……bill to parents.

    I guess this is the business of that school district and it’s parents.
    I do know ( I was once a 5 year old too) that little boys like taking stuff apart……..bill to parents.

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  • Showtime
    Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:44pm

    Do they have webcam capability? Are they going to be like the school that photographed students in their bedrooms and denied it?

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    • BetterDays
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:48pm

      HI SHOWTIME:
      : ( …now that is a sick and sad thought.

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    • hauschild
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:49pm

      The people trying to arm them with these devices will be the first ones whining for government help when these kids can‘t see when they’re 30 years old.

      How about teaching these kids something the government is scared to death of; finance. Or, the time value of money, compounding interest, etc.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:49pm

      Of couse that is more cost efficient than paints and crayons. This way the teachers can just upload a video and let the children watch, while they snooze. Less work for the teacher and it keeps the little rats quiet until Mom and Dad pick them up. How dare anyone think this isn’t for the childs benefit.

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:53pm

      NO What part of no do you not understand… the “N” or the “O”

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    • Brasil2520
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:55pm

      Maine’s tax payers a_ _ just slam shut !

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    • Showtime
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:56pm

      Hi, BETTERDAYS!

      Do you ever feel like you’re swimming uphill in a downhill life?
      I think I’ll call my sponsor and/or read the Big Book!

      You know, if Obama/Soetoro were a self-admitted alcoholic, I think he could be reasoned with. All I hear in the news is how Obama(/Soetoro) has lied. You know how we are — we just get so tired of BS because we see right through it.

      Report Post » Showtime  
    • Rational Man
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:57pm

      Start the propaganda as early as possible I guess.

      Is it just me or does it seem as if sanity in the world is like water running through our fingers and we can’t stop it or get it back.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:01pm

      Oh hey!
      So who do you think struck up a deal with Apple? While we are sinking deeper and deeper, Obama’s friends are getting richer all the time!……ON OUR DIME!

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:01pm

      Teach the kids to use their brains…using penile, paper, writing, math and use Real Books…

      NO computers…NO calculators… NO machine to do the thinking. Teach kids to THINK.

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    • jhaydeng
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:04pm

      I don’t have a problem with them introducing it to them, but as a primary tool..no way. My 6 year old had to show me how to turn on my ipod even though she never used it before. Hard fact to face that technology is farther than most of us know!

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    • Showtime
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:04pm

      @Rational Man
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 7:57pm
      Start the propaganda as early as possible I guess.

      Is it just me or does it seem as if sanity in the world is like water running through our fingers and we can’t stop it or get it back.
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Thank goodness I’m not alone! Did you read what I said to BetterDays above?

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    • waggie
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:11pm

      How about books instead? Now there’s a novel thought!

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    • Cemoto78
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:11pm

      If it’s Maine taxpayers who are footing the bill, I don’t have a problem with this, but, if this is coming out of federal funds than I am a resounding NO. Speaking of federal dollars, why don’t the congress defund and do away with the Department of Education? Just asking.

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    • hersey10
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:15pm

      I am all for the elimination of school books and replacing them with ipads , it‘s far cheaper BUT 5 years olds I’m not so sure of . I see the positive side of kids learning how to use the electronics at a young age as it’s an advantage they will have for when they are in high school and beyond .

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    • BetterDays
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:19pm

      Show:
      Both suggestions sound real sound to me, pardon me if I treat you like an old timer and take a hint….rule 62 is the only way I get by these days, that and thinking through the actions before I take them…..not that I do anything perfect.
      I’m just another frustrated conservative, tired of the lies and the BS, the fix is relatively simple but I think the FIX is in.
      You can’t con a con it is said, and Obama is nothing if not a con man.
      I was thinking how great our government was structured like our meetings, no one rules towards a common goal worth achieving, It’s how my church is structured, denominational elections by members and it’s been around for far longer than Bill and Bobs idea.
      I was also thinking about one thing I love about meetings, no matter what religion someone is we are all in recovery together, the lifeboat as it were.
      Now come on, it’s okay to call me a “jaywalker” if ya see me go off on a tangent……you could be my “Blaze sponsor” , yes?

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    • Nick84
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:19pm

      Is it really any more than schools spend on computers, or a fancy new sports stadium? I understand that schools have multiple students per computer, but the Ipad really does seem like a good device to help young children learn. It would be nice to be able to follow this story and see if the Ipads pay off for these children.

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    • Nick84
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:24pm

      Also, another thing to point out (obviously children this young won’t be using it yet) is the software cost. Being a college student, I could have purchased Microsoft office for around $120. Apple’s 3 similar apps (Numbers, Keynote, and Pages) are sold for $10 each. Like I said, children this young won’t be using those yet, but it would be interesting to see the differences in the cost of things like software and energy bills compared to desktop computers.

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    • Cemoto78
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:31pm

      @hersey10

      It’s a good idea to get the kids prepared for advancements in technology with the use of Ipads, etc., however if you do away with the books and pens, pencils, crayons, when the electricity goes out they will be lost. Another dumbing down of youth who will be dependent on someone else and unprepared in an emergency.

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    • American Soldier (Separated)
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:39pm

      To be fair, my three year old daughter loves the iPad. It has a lot of learning tools and games that she is doing really great learning how to spell and read. She’s three years old! She was playing with our iPhones, playing games, picking apps, downloading youtube videos, taking photos at less than 18 months.

      Modern technology is amazing.

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    • Nick84
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 8:46pm

      It should also be pointed out that Portland is the largest city in Maine, with a population of over 66,000 and it has a high median income (over $42,000).

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    • Gold Coin & Economic News
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 9:24pm

      Okay, I’m trying to think in the liberal mentality here: My wife is from Maine, I once went to kindergarten, I‘d like an iPad and it’s not fair that someone else gets one for free and I don’t.

      I think I’ll call Tom Morrill and demand my iPad now.

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    • Anti_Spock
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 10:07pm

      Yes, if that is what Maine citizens want. Provided they are paid for with Maine tax dollars, not federal.

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    • Showtime
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 10:09pm

      @……..Betterdays ……….~

      Excellent idea! We could be reciprocal sponsors! I would appreciate that.
      (It’s so much easier to “tend to someone else’s business“ than it is to ”tend to our own!”)
      And thank you for your message. Received and welcomed!

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    • pappy
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 10:25pm

      Shouldn’t kids learn about paper, pencils, BOOKS, writing, THINKING and such before they learn to play with electronics? I guess our society is prepping the next bunch of illiterate Americans. I see it happening in my grandkids. Ask them what they’re learning in school, they tell me of things that are completely useless. None of them can tell me when the Declaration was signed, even at the age of 14. Scary stuff….

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    • wolfgang von hess
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 10:26pm

      Follow the money and you will find the truth.

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    • Secret Squirrel
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 10:49pm

      …….
      I did the math.
      $200,000 / 300 + $666 each.
      Hmmmm…..

      Besides that, I don’t suppose the school could possibly go to Apple and say, “How much for an I-Pad if I buy 300 at a time?”

      This reminds me of the morons in Detroit that paid $1200 each for laptops for students. (50 K I believe.)
      I can buy a Dell (1) for $499, and the school can’t find one less than $1200 when they buy 50,000?

      Maybe it’s time for a clean sweep of these dunces. (criminals)

      Taxpayers! Enough is enough! No more.

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    • restorehope
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 11:27pm

      So kindergartners need to be ‘engaged’ so that they do not get bored? I thought that was the job of the teacher….to skillfully keep their minds focused on learning. I fear that these devices will become babysitters, just like the video games the kids play at home. Why are we taking the human factor out of everything in our society? Sounds like a typical progressive objective: spend a lot of money and not necessarily for the right reason.

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    • leftcoastslut
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 11:30pm

      all the news stories seem to involving the and schools,

      ipods one school, no homemade lunches chicago, teachers union vote to back that cop killer?

      just like we saw the fury in the stock market, home values plumeting and now they are using the children, our children to promote their agenda

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    • dr_funk
      Posted on April 12, 2011 at 11:51pm

      A five year old’s ability to learn has NOTHING to do with the physical tools in the classroom, and has everything to do with the teacher’s ability to hold their attention.

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    • thepatriotdave
      Posted on April 13, 2011 at 12:10am

      “Should Maine School Be Spending $200k on iPads for 5-yr-olds?”
      ————————————————————————————————

      If it means they can get rid of all the teachers I would say yes!

      The Tea Party Revolution Continues…
      http://www.AmericasTeaPartyNews.com

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    • crazytalk
      Posted on April 13, 2011 at 9:56am

      Why don’t we ask the children of exposed n-hexane workers in china what they think. Go apple…go libs…not.

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/22/chinese-workers-apple-nhexane-poisoning

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    • Clive
      Posted on April 13, 2011 at 3:00pm

      the answer is yes. obviously. cheaper than books, kids can use a computer interface at a young age, as its pretty much a certainty that they will be using the same thing later in life, and in their careers, wouldn’t it make sense to know how to use technology sooner than later? Besides people don’t get their news or information from books or magazines, i see no reason to make them use traditional books just for the sake of nostalgia. i suspect the people that are against it are just old, and afraid, as usual.

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    • jackrorabbit
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:30am

      Well, let me put it this way. If the school can afford it, because they budget it and the parents/taxpayers don’t mind, then it doesn’t matter does it. If however, they are like most of the US, in debt up to their eyeballs, then NO !!! Let their parents handle that part of teaching.

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