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Should Todd Akin Withdraw from the Missouri Senate Race After ‘Rape’ Comments? (POLL)

Whenever a politician makes a statement that runs afoul of social norms, someone – generally on the opposite side – will call for that politician to drop out of the race for the sake of decency. However, extremely rarely, a politician will make a gaffe that’s bad enough to cause people in their own party to call for them to drop out.

Such is apparently the case with Rep. Todd Akin’s comments yesterday suggesting that victims of “legitimate rape” rarely get pregnant – a statement whose clear falsehood has several conservative observers calling for Akin’s head. Since the comments, Twitter has lit up with furious comments about Akin from the Right, and Redstate blogger neoavatara has penned a blistering attack on Akin calling for his immediate withdrawal:

There are very few things in life that I thought would make me call for the resignation of a politician.  Clear corruption and dereliction of duty, surely.  Treason, obviously.  If they stated “Hail Hitler” on the floor of Congress.

Somehow Rep. Akin found a new one.[...]

Akin must go…now.  I am willing to give leeway to candidates saying dumb things once in a while, things that are a slip of the tongue, or a simple misunderstanding.  This is none of those. The video of this is worse than the quote.  It shows a man that is clueless beyond all measure, and shouldn’t be voted in as a local dog catcher, let along as a U.S. Senator.

Harsh stuff. However, it’s not universal. Conservative Dana Loesch has come out swinging, slamming the hypocrisy of Akin’s critics, though still stressing that she isn’t interested in defending Akin himself:

Should Todd Akin Drop Out of the Race Against Democratic Senator Claire McCaskill?Critics of Akin’s on the Right may respond that they want every instance of this kind of absurdity eradicated, Bloomberg and Harkin’s remarks included. Loesch admits the remarks are ludicrous, but in a longer piece for Breitbart.com, she still defends Akin as better than sitting Democratic Senator Claire McCaskill:

Akin is a pro-life candidate thus leans towards life when discussion abortion. It’s not shocking knowledge to Missourians who selected him as the GOP nominee for senate and lean towards him in the latest polling. Democrats want to make social issues the focus on the campaign as opposed to the economy, where they’re losing, and Akin’s interview gave them them the momentary opportunity they needed to shift attention away from the lagging economy.

Was Akin’s “misspeech” ridiculous? Of course. Is it worse than the misdeeds of his opponent, Claire McCaskill, who rubber-stamps Obama’s war on Missouri coal jobs and tripled our deficit? Not by conservative standards, or any real standard of measurement.

Whatever Akin’s comparative merits, however, most of the conservative political class is still buzzing with calls for him to cede the mantle to someone else. Twitchy reports, in a story headlined “Todd Akin has until August 21 to drop out”:

One of those calling on Akin to step down is Patrick Ruffini, a GOP strategist.

Ruffini says that Akin can withdraw from the race prior to Tuesday August 21st at 5:00 p.m.

His analysis is based on Section 115.359.1 of the Missouri Revised Statutes:

115.359. 1. Any person who has filed a declaration of candidacy for nomination and who wishes to withdraw as a candidate shall, not later than the eleventh Tuesday prior to the primary election, file a written, sworn statement of withdrawal in the office of the official who accepted such candidate’s declaration of candidacy. Any person nominated for an office who wishes to withdraw as a candidate shall, not later than the eleventh Tuesday prior to the general election, file a written, sworn statement of withdrawal in the office of the official who accepted such candidate’s declaration of candidacy. In addition, any person who has filed a declaration of candidacy for nomination or who is nominated for an office who wishes to withdraw as a candidate due to being named as the party candidate for a different office by a party nominating committee pursuant to sections 115.363 to 115.377 may withdraw as a candidate no later than 5:00 p.m. on the fifth day after being named as the party candidate for a different office by the party nominating committee.

In other words, if Akin’s going to sink for this, he’s going to have to sink quickly, or the chances of the GOP to take McCaskill’s seat will have to float or sink with him.

He certainly can‘t count on support from the GOP’s presumptive nominee. Romney slammed Akin in statements to National Review today:

“Congressman’s Akin comments on rape are insulting, inexcusable, and, frankly, wrong,” Romney said. “Like millions of other Americans, we found them to be offensive.”[...]

“I have an entirely different view,” Romney said. “What he said is entirely without merit and he should correct it.”

Akin does, however, have one strong defender, though probably not the one he wants – namely, his prospective opponent, Claire McCaskill:

Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) warned top Republican officials on Monday that any efforts to push Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) out of the Senate race against her, following his galling remarks about “legitimate” rape victims not getting pregnant, would backfire.

“I think for Washington party insiders to come in and try to invalidate the votes of Missourians would be radical,” McCaskill said in a phone interview with The Huffington Post. “I think that would be a very radical thing to have happen, and I can’t imagine how the Republican primary voters would think about that in Missouri.”

“I think there would be a significant backlash,” she added. “I’m not sure that would have a good ending for the Republican Party.”

What do you think? Should Akin stand aside and let someone else face McCaskill? Take our poll below:

 

Comments (203)

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  • TomSawyer
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:04pm

    There are two possibilities:
    1) He is a really Democrat hired to throw the race so Claire McCaskill can win.
    2) He is the stupidest person on earth.

    If he stays in the race then Claire McCaskill wins.

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    • AJAYW
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:12pm

      I go with your number 1 — way to wild to be a mistake

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:13pm

      Or what he said was factual. According to the original article what he said was fact based.

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    • PitaPub
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:14pm

      He made a mistake… he’s a good guy and anyone center to right here in MO will gladly support him. Claire is toast!

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    • americansfightingforcommonsense
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:15pm

      Exactly. Akins was the only guy Claire was attacking during the primary. I live in MO and am a member of the Tea Party and I did NOT vote fo Todd Akins. He is not our candidate. We wanted and voted for John Brunner a business owner who would mop the floor with Claire McCaskill. Something has never set right with me since the primary and I heard Akins got the nod. It stinks to High Heaven. Who really believes that a woman’s body can reject pregnancy in case if rape? Either Akins better turn this around quick or we need Brunner, because McCaskill has got to go.

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    • termyt
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:46pm

      He let his mouth get ahead of his brain. That’s all. Whether his statement is true or not is immaterial when you consider that the statement places the responsibility for the crime on the victim because they apparently didn’t resist it enough. For that implication, he has apologized and strengthened his commitment to victims. That should be enough unless his history implies otherwise.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:58pm

      The problem is that Republicans are in a mess. Our party is so divided that we are going to end up losing everything if we are not careful. If we were to stop listening to rhetoric, and start looking at voting records, pick candidates that are for liberty, freedom and the Constitution, we might get somewhere. But, everyone listens to the slick talking, good looking candidates that move their positions here and there depending on what they are doing right now. Akin’s voted for the NDAA, against the amendment to repeal the indefinite detention in the 2013 NDAA, but we still were looking at him until he makes a stupid remark.
      We had better get back to principles of freedom or we will all be sorry.

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    • VanceUppercut
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 1:14pm

      @TomSawyer

      Another instance of “if a Republican does or says something stupid/sexist/racist, he or she must be a Democrat in disguise!”.

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    • goldmankc
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 1:24pm

      claire has to go but i dont think this guy can do it now
      wheres steelman when we need her

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 1:40pm

      OMG now that dope is holding a press conference. I think everyone should read this:
      http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79867.html?hp=f1 note the content of this article: Obama’s competitive nature, his true nature. I’ve personally seen more obnoxious people than Wasserman-Schultz; Cutter; Axelrod and Plouffe; certainly none more obnoxious than Robert Gibbs..or better at lying with a straight face, Jay Carney is like a Gibbs, Jr. These people think they can say anything, do anything and we’ll somehow buy it. This is Obama’s arrogance. He conned his way into office without any provable credentials and according to this article, this is a life-long M.O. for this punk. Read it when you can : http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79867.html?hp=f1

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    • GoodStuff
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 1:43pm

      @pitapub

      “anyone center to right here in MO will gladly support him. Claire is toast!”

      You’re living in denial. He now has zero chance of winning. He has got to step down!

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    • The Giver
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 1:57pm

      I hope there is still time for the Patriots of MI to replace him. What a comment! We need to win this election (2012), not have a man who may have good intentions but is clueless about what he was speaking about. I don’t think he is a Democrat, he’s just very ill-informed.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 2:09pm

      If you would demand Suicide for everyone whom Errs… George Washington would be the first to go… and Hamilton right behind him!

      Errors & Failures are to be used for Correction… unless you are Too Stupid!

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    • phillyatheist
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 2:11pm

      “he’s just very ill-informed.”

      like thinking that MI is Missouri instead of Michigan. i‘d say he’s about as misinformed as his constituents.

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    • Verceofreason
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 2:51pm

      The REAL problem is PAUL RYAN SHARES HIS VIEWS
      and it’s ALL in black and white.

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 4:15pm

      @americansfightingforcommonsense

      Excuse me, sir. Please don’t speak for me. I’m from Missouri, and am also a Tea Partier.

      John Brunner won’t say anything specific, nor would the man identify a single Founding Father. Brunner might be nice, but he’s incompetent. He also thinks he can start at the top, instead of working his way up.

      Akin has a great track record on fiscal issues.

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 4:16pm

      @VanceUppercut

      Thanks, that’s exactly what I was thinking. It’s moronic to hold human beings to an unachievable standard. You’ll spend your entire life bitter and disapointed.

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 4:18pm

      @lukerw

      Excellent point. George Washington was a terrible general at first. He lost several battles and he was horrendously inexperienced, but he got better.

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    • swamp_donkey
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 5:16pm

      yep the dems are the anti abortion crowd , my god you dont even try to make sense

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    • americansfightingforcommonsense
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 6:32pm

      @JAYCEN
      Excuse me “Sir”?
      Obvious you know nothing about John Brunner. He is a small business owner and has employed hundreds of people. He understands the Obama and his over-regulation and anti-business ideology is what is KILLING this country. Brunner understands what it takes to pay the bills and taxes of a small business and could help change the ways our government has been picking winners and losers. “GET OUT OF OUR WAY” and let the FREE MARKET work the way the Founding Fathers intended.
      So, I guess by stating that he should “work his way up” you mean he should be a career politician? NO THANK YOU! Give me a Farmer, a Business Owner, Someone who has worked HARD to better this country from the general public! Please give us John Brunner to vote for and Claire McCaskill will be a thing of the past. GOOD RIDDENS!!!

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    • pandora
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 3:48pm

      I think we are going to see a lot of republicans being either threatened or paid off to throw the election. The progressive communist machine is well organized.

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    • IsThereADifference
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 5:26pm

      The progressive RNC wants him out. The people who voted for him want him to stay. I’m going to side with the people.

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    • ExTex
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 6:14pm

      Third possibility: You’re an idiot. Really? A guy states his view on a topic and everyone is ready to hang him in the town square? So much for First Amendment Rights. I don’t know if what he said is factual or not. Don’t care. Do your homework and find out for sure if it means that much to you. But making knee-jerk comments and crucifying him without knowing the facts is more stupid than anything he could’ve said. I, for one, support his right to say what he said. I don’t agree with it, but I support his right to say it with impunity.

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  • hauschild
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:58am

    What a preposterous notion: Withdrawing from a political race; considering the court of public opinion will decide his fate at the ballot box – which is as it should be.

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    • phillyatheist
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:04pm

      oddly, his views are not very far from mainstream Republican thinking. maybe they should all withdraw. if you don’t believe this to be true, see the Personhood movement. the next step for the right – women who become pregnant will be under 24/7 watch by the zygote police so they don’t harm the “person” in their womb.

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:59pm

      NO PHILLYATHEIST: Again you show your poor judgment. I have never met anyone, of any party, who thinks a woman‘s body knows it’s being raped and therefore won’t conceive. I have also not heard of pregnancies as the direct result of rape except in one case …I’m sure they may be more, but unrecorded. NEVERTHELESS… The statement was made, it is hurting his candidacy and a deal should be struck: When the Congressman who thinks extra people landing on an island will tip it, resigns then this man should resign, if this man resigns then the Tea Party Candidate should be appointed immediately. We need the Senate, we will have the WHITE HOUSE.

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    • phillyatheist
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 1:11pm

      PATTY – oddly, i don’t disagree with much of what you wrote (except for the personal attack on me). i must note that Akin IS the Sarah Palin backed Tea Party candidate. personally, i hope he stays in as it gives the Dems a much better chance of winning.

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 1:55pm

      NO, he is not the TEA PARTY candidate, John Brunner is. IF Palin supported Akin, it was as in opposition to McCaskill…as all of us oppose Claire – misuse of Public funds – McCaskill. Sorry, Charlie, I can’t discuss anything further with someone so self-centered and foolish enough to think there is no God.

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    • phillyatheist
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 2:14pm

      “Sorry, Charlie, I can’t discuss anything further with someone so self-centered and foolish enough to think there is no God.”

      i guess it’s not self-centered to think that an Almighty Creator gives two bleeps about you in this vast universe/multiverse. i’ll leave it at that. have a good life PATTY.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 4:05pm

      The GOP is in a Panic… the Sky is Falling… one stupid statement will Lose the Election.

      Yet… Biden goes on… and Obama lies. What a bunch of Cowards head the GOP… and Hannity sucks!

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    • swamp_donkey
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 5:20pm

      he is toast, when will you troglodytes realize that your views are toxic just like your morals

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    • Contrarian51
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 6:32pm

      @PATTY HENRY

      Please stop misinforming. Akin’s Tea Party backing dwarfed any that Brunner got, and Palin backed Steelman. I suspect you aren’t from Missouri. If you are, you were paying no attention during the entire primary season, in which case you are dangerously ignorant.

      @AMERICANSFIGHTINGFORCOMMONSENSE: It’s “Akin” not “Akins.” It was hard to get excited about Brunner when, in his early commercials touting his experience as a manufacturer, he was unable to pronounce “manufacturing” properly. It took me a minute to figure out what, exactly, the “mannafaxshurrin binness” actually was. The fake crowd cheers in the background of later commercials didn’t do anything for him credibility-wise. Yes, it’s superficial noise but impressions do matter.

      The irony is that this issue is meaningless anyway, from a vote-counting perspective. Anyone whose most important issue is pro-life vs pro-choice has already made their mind up and nothing will change it, period. Akin and the Republicans need to get this discussion back on the economy, spending and taxes asap, lest Akin become the next O’Donnell or Angle.

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 3:09pm

      Contrarian51; Palin backed BRUNNER, per her own web site; Tea Party did not back Akin (at least during Primary) …you must work for Akin. I don’t like him, already, for accepting ads and $ from
      Claire McCaskill….I hope he manages to make it past sleazy McCaskill and helps ROMNEY/RYAN have both House and Senate to clean up the mess that Obama, NWO DICTATOR WANNABE, has made.

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    • flipper1073
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 6:49am

      @ PHILLY
      Hi, I must disagree with you on who Sarah Palin
      Backed in Missouri it was not Akin. Sarah backed
      Sarah Steelman just for the record.

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  • AverageBear
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:58am

    Barack Obama was only able to be elected as the Senator from Illinois stepped out of the race for stupid reasons. Republicans have to less eager to destroy their candidates because they do something stupid. We all make mistakes. This guy made a beauty, but he is admitting it and learning from it. He will be a better candidate for it.

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  • Smokey_Bojangles
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:56am

    If Politicians dropped out of Races for being stupid,Obama would be out for calling Romney a Murderer.

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    • phillyatheist
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:06pm

      yeah, b/c a pro-Obama Super PAC ran a web ad Obama should resign. can a person really be as stupid as you and still know how to turn on a computer?

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    • kansas hawks 3
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:29pm

      @phillyatheist, You talk about stupid, You have not said one word that was intelligent and just look at your user name that says it all……………

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    • SquidVetOhio
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:32pm

      @PHILLY

      So you’re cool with your racist VP talking down to blacks and scaring them with slavery? Especially since the people who owned slaves were DEMOCRATS. You’re a joke.

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    • phillyatheist
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:59pm

      KANSAS – what about my username? are you suggesting that b/c i‘m an Atheist i’m therefore stupid?

      SQUID – slave owners were only Democrats? wow! way to re-write history, Barton style! and i guess you’re saying that Biden is racist against white people? that makes zero sense.

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  • mlimberg
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:52am

    Normally, I think he should stay, but this year the gloves are off… he’s got to go so McCaskill is replaced…..

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:02pm

      Patrick Ruffini is a Bushite, non-conservative Republican. Don’t be a wuss. Have some ****** and stand by those who are imperfect but sincerely conservative.

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    • SquidVetOhio
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:30pm

      Exactly. I am sick and tired of our side throwing our guys under the bus so we can feel better about ourselves. Man up. Besides, he’s factually correct. He was arguing against killing babies who’s crime was their father was a rapist. They child didn’t hurt anyone, why does it need to die? If you don’t have the testicular fortitude to stand behind our guys, vote for the liberal.

      With friends like Republicans, who needs Democrats?

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    • GoodStuff
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 1:49pm

      @squid

      “Exactly. I am sick and tired of our side throwing our guys under the bus so we can feel better about ourselves. Man up. Besides, he’s factually correct.”

      He threw himself under the bus. He has zero chance of winning now and the only way Claire McCaskill wins now is if he stays in the race. Do you want to win the Senate or not? You’re the one who need to man up. Why would you willingly allow the Dems to keep control of the Senate?

      Factually correct?? A woman’s body “knows” when her pregnancy is the result of rape or not? What the hell are you talking about? His comments were nonsensical gibberish and there’s no recovery from that. He needs to step down now!

      WIN THE FREAKING SENATE!!

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  • duane38637
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:49am

    Akin will not just cost the GOP the senate but Romney the presidency over this WTF was he thinking!

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  • Listen_then_think
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:49am

    I do support abortion in the case of rape or incest. But the dems are politicizing his statement and take it out of context of the medical doctors he was referring to.

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  • Mutiny
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:49am

    In politics you never apologize. I honestly dont care about his views on rape, I care about politicians views on overspending, wars, and freedoms.

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  • Sirfoldallot
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:43am

    Notice how the Lib’s r all over ever story on Todd Akins ?

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    • duane38637
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:51am

      Yes and now they are trying to use it against Ryan!

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    • Locked
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:11pm

      Notice how you came out and called a bunch of consistently conservative posters liberals and trolls when they called for a Tea Party candidate to take his place instead? This guy will be a poison, not a prophet. Get rid of him before the poison spreads.

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  • Listen_then_think
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:41am

    All you democrats who want to fry this guy for his comment when seen in the video and in context KNOW that he was talking about what medical doctors have told him concerning rape victims. In the medical context he was speaking, that was a legitimate statement. The hypocrite democrats “conveniently” left the rest of the statement that he wants rights FOR the victim not the rapist. You hypocrite democrats also conveniently forget maxine waters comments and Andre carson statements about hanging blacks from trees and the new black panthers murderous/terrorist comments about blowing up babies.

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    • JJohnGalt2
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:47am

      What freaking Medical Context?
      There is no Medical Context for Akin’s comments.
      Tell us WHAT MEDICAL CONTEXT

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    • JRook
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:50am

      “runs afoul of social norms” Really I don’t see him quoting physicians or physicians coming forward to reinforce nothing more than an ignorance that occasionally peaks through ideological filter that seeks to bend reality around what people want to belief and want to think. And your attempt to put this back on liberals or democrats is similarly ignorant. Deal with the statement, recognize the ignorance of the mind that would make such a statement. And let’s not let this guy get attention the way M. Bachmann, Ann Coulter do by making ridiculous statements that are ignorant as they are self promoting.

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    • JoeInMaine
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:55am

      My wife, an MD agrees that his statement has been clinically proven to be correct and yet somehow politically suicidal.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:56am

      @jj

      From the original article.

      “A 1996 study published in the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology said approximately 32,000 pregnancies result from rape each year in the United States and that about 5 percent of rape victims are impregnated.”

      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/gop-senate-nominee-victims-of-legitimate-rape-rarely-get-pregnant/

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    • encinom
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:06pm

      JoeInMaine
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:55am

      My wife, an MD agrees that his statement has been clinically proven to be correct and yet somehow politically suicidal.
      ___________________
      Please post your wife’s name and where she practices, others should be warned that they are being treated by a fool.

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    • phillyatheist
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:08pm

      JOEINMAINE – your wife should have her medical license taken away. this has been a conservative angle since the 1980′s and has been proven demonstrably false over and over again. i didn’t know Liberty University or Oral Roberts had a medical program.

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    • JJohnGalt2
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:13pm

      5% of 32,000 is 1,600 babies. Akin says a women can self-abort after a rape is the DUMBEST thing I ever heard a candidate say in a political race, with the most severe consequences for a campaign ever.

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    • Wool-Free Vision
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:34pm

      Notice that the loudest and most incensed commentors on this topic are the exact same people who loudly defend Bloomberg, Harkin, Waters, and any other Dems spewing outrageous garbage. Yes, that’s right: Liberal hypocrites politicizing, twisting facts, obfuscating truth with ears plugged and mouths running. “CONTEXT? WHAT CONTEXT? WHAT PROOF?” Then you present them the proof and they refuse to see it.

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    • Locked
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 1:08pm

      @jj

      “5% of 32,000 is 1,600 babies. ”

      Reread the quote. 32,000 pregnancies occur annually in the US as a result of rape. 5% of women who are raped are impregnated.

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    • JJohnGalt2
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 1:36pm

      Can you multiply 32,000 times 5%?

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 2:24pm

      JJohnGalt2
      Can you multiply 32,000 times 5%?

      Yes, we can also read. It said that 5% of rapes result in pregnancy, not that 5% of those pregnancies result in babies. You can multiply 32,000 by 20 if you want to know the number of rapes, but multiplying it by 5% won’t tell you anything.

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    • JJohnGalt2
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 3:01pm

      Jeez
      Every pregnancy is a conception. Every conception is considered a baby. Sure there are miscarriagies, or stillborn. Only way to stop a conception from becoming a baby 100% is abortion.

      Stop while you are still sane. 32,000 times 0.05 = 1,600

      Some people throw out bullsh!t when they lose an argument. Just like the democrats.

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    • Locked
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 3:34pm

      @JJ

      “Every pregnancy is a conception. Every conception is considered a baby. Sure there are miscarriagies, or stillborn. Only way to stop a conception from becoming a baby 100% is abortion.

      Stop while you are still sane. 32,000 times 0.05 = 1,600

      Some people throw out bullsh!t when they lose an argument. Just like the democrats.”

      One of these times it‘s going to click and you’re going to go “Oh… oops.” There are 640,000 rapes annually in the US. 5% of those results in pregnancy. That means 32,000 women get pregnant each year from rape. It makes absolutely no sense that you’re cutting that number again. We aren’t talking about how many women who get pregnant from rape abort, miscarry, or carry to term.

      Also not mentioned (and much more practical to the discussion) is how many women are raped and receive emergency contraceptives like Plan B… which Akin also opposes. Hence why his comment that women who are “legitimately raped” can somehow turn off their reproductive capabilities is so horrendous. Plan B likely lowers that 32,000 number from something much higher if Akin had his way and outlawed Plan B for rape victims.

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    • JJohnGalt2
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 8:22pm

      Do you get it?

      32,000 rapes of which 5% results in pregnancy.

      Get it?

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    • Wool-Free Vision
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 4:48am

      Holy cow, JJohn, you are the most stubbornly obtuse person I have seen since Paulbots. READ. COMPREHEND. POST. In that order. You continue to post without taking the time to comprehend.

      32,000 is the number of rapes that result in pregnancy. It is 5% of the total number of rapes, which is 640,000. GET IT?

      There are 640,000 rapes reported annually, 5% of them result in pregnancy. GET IT YET? If you still can’t grasp this, you should really think about retiring from the internet. Comprehension is the key to communication.

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  • JJohnGalt2
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:40am

    When a candidate makes such a stupid comment, he/she must step aside, other wise the other side will pillior them till the end of time. There goes Missouri to Obama and Romney can ill afford to lose Mizzou. This dumbA$$ just gave Obama and the Democrats the 2012 election.
    Akin was pandering to the Evangelicals and shows you how the Evangelicals are hurting this country BY GETTING DEMOCRATS elected. Yep, I said the Evangelicals are as stupid as Akin.
    Damn right Akin MUST WITHDRAW.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:52am

      If Mr. Akin must step aside then so should Romney. The way his campaign has been run and the constant gaffes he and his team have made, he should have already stepped down.

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    • JJohnGalt2
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:00pm

      Romney gaffes? Be specific. You are as bad as Akin throwing out non-sense when you have no basis.
      Akin’s was not a gaffe, it was an attempted pander to the Evangelical and shows what a dumbass he is.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:35pm

      “If people had been in Massachusetts, under Governor Romney’s health care plan, they would have had health care.”

      - Andrea Saul, Romney’s campaign press secretary (8/8/2012)

      “There are a few things that were disconcerting,…”

      - Mitt Romney, London, UK (7/26/2012)

      “It’s almost like an etch-a-sketch, you can kind of shake it up and we start all over again”

      - Eric Fehrnstrom, Mitt’s Campaign Senior Advisor on CNN (3/21/2012)

      “Trees are the right height.”

      - Mitt Romney, Detroit Economic Club (2/24/2012)

      “Corporations are people, my friend.”

      - Mitt Romney, Iowa State Fair (8/11/2011)

      Or we can just go on his political views.

      Pro NDAA.
      Pro Patriot Act.
      Pro Gun control laws.
      Pro FED.
      Pro Ben Bernanke.
      Pro Abortion. Oh, well he did say he was pro life for political reasons now.
      Pro bailouts.
      Pro TARP.
      Doesnt cut Federal spending at all first year and doesnt cut enough to stop our coming bankruptcy.
      Pro amnesty.
      Romney believes Iran to actually be a threat to the United States.

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    • JJohnGalt2
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:59pm

      Thanks for your effort. But……I see NO gaffes in your list. What Akin said was no gaffe …. it was stupidity.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 2:25pm

      And you support his political views also? Well there is another guy who has those same political views and his name is Obama.

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  • Witness1974
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:39am

    Rape is second only to murder in acts of tyranny; as Americans we should hate tyranny and give tyrants what they derserve–death. However while having to carry the child of a rapist is a tragedy, in any rape resulting in pregnancy there are two innocents, the woman and the child. Those who would make rape an exception for abortion are punishing the wrong person. Let the innocent child have life and take it away from the rapist.

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    • phillyatheist
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:57am

      people who think your way are sickos. if your daughter was the victim of a rape and she got pregnant i can’t imagine you feeling this way. the only reason you feel like this is your belief in a soul. since no such thing has been proven to exist we are left with an incomplete group of cells that is not a person. furthermore, what right do you religious folks have to push your religious (and kooky) positions on others. need i remind anyone that abortion is still legal?

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    • JediKnight
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 5:21pm

      @Philly: Given your example (assuming the daughter is under 18), he most certainly would have the right to keep his daughter from getting an abortion. Or are you suggesting that parental rights (it is his daughter) should be trumped by the State? Perhaps his daughter feels the same way. Perhaps is daughter would want some good to come from a bad event (like many women believe).

      Whether it’s abortion or gun control we always seem to want to punish the innocent survivors instead of the criminals. It isn’t sickening to want the rapist to be given the death penalty. The rapists survival will be a daily reminder to the woman as it is. Punish the rapist, not the baby.

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  • Man-On-A-Mission
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:36am

    You guys are funny….this is absurd. It’s just the regular GOP insanity. What world do you guys live on. Your party is extreme and you will not win. A women should have the right to choose what to do with her body. Could you image a bunch of women politicians deciding that men masturbating is a crime and should be abolished……….I thought you guys stood for FREEDOM!!!!

    Oh…your definition of freedom…..which is slavery to your opinions!!!!!!!!!

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    • hayesstephen
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:42am

      Man on a mission. What utter non sense! Blow it out your barrack bags!

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    • contkmi
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:46am

      Uh, yeah, extreme. That’s why Republicans won the biggest turnover in House history during the midterms.

      Go spout your crap somewhere else.

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  • MrButcher
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:34am

    It was a stupid comment that gives the Left ammunition to distract.

    He should step down and quash this before it gets worse.

    Don‘t think they won’t try to tie this to Romney, and all repubs in general, and they will have help doing it.

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    • encinom
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:44am

      Akins is already linked to Ryan, both co-sponsored anti-women, anti-choice legislation that would restrict all abortions except for case where the mothers life was at risk. Ryan’s statement this weekend attempting to distance himself from Akins was dishonest given their past. Ryan supports punishing the woman given birth to a rapists child.

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    • CatB
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:45am

      Yes this just gives the lamestreme media something to talk about .. while they IGNORE Joe Biden’s racist and other comments …. along with the shooting at the Converative Family Research Council …

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    • hayesstephen
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:52am

      I agree. Twenty twenty five or so years ago a member of one of the houses of Congress made pretty much the same idiotic statement. I can’t remember his name nor the state, but I think it was one the Eastern Sea Board in the South. Come on people help me remember. I’m a conservative and here is the difference between a conserv and libs. When a conserv does something wrong and needs correcting I’m for correcting them, when a lib does something wrong they circle the wagons and beilive it or not attack libs!!

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  • Wool-Free Vision
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:31am

    Wow, Dana Loesch is awesome. I didn’t even know who she was until HONOR007 linked her podcast in the Tom Morello thread a few days ago. Now, here she is again saying what needs to be said while others flail about.

    Dana, you rock.

    HONOR007′s link: http://www.971talk.com/dana/podcast.aspx

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  • lylejk
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:31am

    No room for idiots who can’t step over manure. If you want to fire McCaskill, you need to put up another candidate. The guys an obvious Democrat mole or an idiot. Either way, has to go. :)

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  • MODEL82A1
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:30am

    Template: Republican makes a provocative “gaffe” = Immediate demands for his/her resignation – or worse.
    Democrat makes a provocative “gaffe” = Circle the wagons in defense and loudly proclaim that critics are too stupid to understand implied meaning – or worse.
    Got it?

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  • bandi9
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:30am

    yes, he should, and do it now. the other 2 possible candidates are also ahead of McCaskill. those are idiot comments, and probably wont be the last.

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  • 1snake1
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:28am

    Keep up the war on the poor/women/science/reason/etc etc etc. Enjoy November.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:54am

      And to you, keep up the war on liberty, success, free will, the constitution, and economic sanity. Enjoy serfdom.

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    • phillyatheist
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:00pm

      sadly only about half of the electorate are smart enough to realize this is what’s going on.

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    • phillyatheist
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:16pm

      ROTH – i didn’t know that success and economic prosperity have been outlawed under Obama. i still make 6 figures, and my IRA has doubled since Obama took office. maybe i’m the exception. also, not one little piece of my liberty has been eliminated. please tell me how your freedom/liberty has been violated under Obama.

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    • VanceUppercut
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 1:19pm

      @Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve

      Oh, I just hate liberty! It must be destroyed! Blah!

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 4:51pm

      @Philly,

      How many examples would you like?

      Here are a few.

      1. Whenever I try to exercise my right to move freely (Article IV Section 2) in this country by entering into a contract for services with a company to provide it for me, the government feels the need to enter that agreement and send some mouth breathing HS dropout to either put his hands in my pants or take naughty pictures of me while irradiating me. (Amendment 4)

      2. Should I decide that I do not wish to buy health insurance, I shall be charged a fee/tax. If I refuse to pay said fee/tax then men will come to my domicile, extract me at gunpoint and imprison me.

      I could go on, but I’m going to wager that a country requiring a citizen to purchase a product from a private (debatable) company that has been deemed acceptable by said government in order to remain unincarcerated is a pretty compelling argument for my point.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 4:52pm

      Conversely Philly, given your cheer of support to the original premise I’d love to hear how non-democrats are waging war on women and the poor and reason.

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  • doomytram
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:25am

    McCaskill’s has been an abysmal disastrous Obozo like failure in the Senate. Sorry JZS’s of the world, but the People of Missouri would vote for a Conservative Blue Hat over the ridiculous Obotic McCaskill.

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  • Sirfoldallot
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:25am

    Should Joe Binden withdraw ?

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  • cookcountypatriot
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:25am

    this guy belongs with biden and pelosi,reid,waters,cleaver and all the rest of the progressive retards ..and he belongs in thier party……NOT THE TEA PARTY…GET THIS TURD OUT!

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  • Verceofreason
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:25am

    Even if you‘ withdraw’ it’s still rape.

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  • The_Jerk
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:24am

    The making of a non-issue into an issue for political purpose.

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    • 1snake1
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:29am

      You think someone thinking that a rape victim should be forced by the state to carry her rapists spawn to term is a non-issue?

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    • phillyatheist
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:02pm

      SNAKE – his user name says it all. these lifers are simply religious zealots who want to impose their antiquated beliefs on others. they are crazy and dangerous. god help us, lol.

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    • VanceUppercut
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 1:17pm

      @The_Jerk
      “The making of a non-issue into an issue for political purpose.”
      1. Obama didn’t wear a flag pin.
      2. A Muslim community center is being built in NYC.
      3. Michelle Obama wants kids to eat healthier so they don’t die of diabetes.
      …and about a thousand other things that Cons have used to stir of hate and trouble for political gain.

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  • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:21am

    We already know Dems flocked to the poll and nominated this guy, now he seems to shoot himself in the foot…..things that make you go hmmmmm.

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