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‘Sin Boldly!’: Female Minister Accused of ‘Seducing’ Congregant & Engaging in Naked Skype Trysts on Church Computers

Rev. Ginger Strickland Accused of Sexual Misconduct With Erik Campano

Rev. Ginger Strickland

The Rev. Ginger Strickland, 33, of Church of the Incarnation in New York City, is under fire amid a complaint that she seduced a male parishioner. Erik Campano, the 34-year-old at the center of the controversy, claims that the two carried on a secret affair, which purportedly included hook-ups in a rectory in Paris, France, and naked Skype video chats over church computers.

While the romance was apparently intense, it inevitably ended with Stickland dumping Campano — an act that he claims had a dire impact on him. The New York Post has more about how the alleged affair began:

Strickland, from a Texas oil baron’s family, and Campano, from Queens, met in late 2010 at the American Church in Paris, where she held a job leading a youth ministry. He was going to medical school, attended services, and — at Strickland’s urging, he said — became a church volunteer.

Over several months, Campano says, Strickland first engaged him in e-mail discussions dripping with pastoral concern and advice for coping with his studies and his mother’s cancer. He says he resisted her invitations to socialize.

Finally, alone in a gym after an outing with a jogging club, she leaned over to kiss him, the start of a four-month affair.

In a complaint document that the Post obtained, Campano wrote to church officials, detailing these activities (and plenty of others), claiming that Stickland told him, “God brought you to me.”

“On her initiation, we are naked…over church computers,” he continued, highlighting the alleged Skype “dates” that the two held. If true, this description — especially the idea that the actions were carried out over church computers — will likely cause problems for the young preacher.

Rev. Ginger Strickland Accused of Sexual Misconduct With Erik Campano

Church of the Incarnation (Image Credit: New York Post)

Strickland moved to the U.S. last summer to take a job at the Church of Incarnation. Initially, the two continued their romance via Skype, but Campano claims that the pastor asked for “space” in November and then ended the relationship one month later. He also claims that the preacher told him that further contact would complicate her ministry.

The breakup was apparently very hard for Campano, as he said that he considered suicide in the wake of it. Now, he’s fighting back, claiming that the church should have protected him against the relationship. So, he filed a report and accused Strickland — just weeks before her ordination – of sexual misconduct, hiding her wrongdoing and acting out in an un-clergy-like manner.

“I felt betrayed by my church, which was supposed to enforce rules against pastors having relationships with parishioners,” he said in an interview with the Post. “If you believe your relationship is blessed by God, a breakup means a failure to live out God’s will.”

Rev. Ginger Strickland Accused of Sexual Misconduct With Erik Campano

There’s no telling how much of the story is true, but Campano claims to have e-mails and handwritten notes that detail their sexual exploits, while also highlighting Strickland’s criticism about a seminary course she took about — ironically — sexual harassment. He also claims that she joked about “theological justification” for the affair.

“God does not save those who are only imaginary sinners. Sin boldly!,” she allegedly said. “Be a sinner and let your sins be strong, but let your trust in Christ be stronger.”

So far, the church hasn’t taken disciplinary action against Strickland. The case was, at first, dismissed. Then, Campano won an appeal and an Episcopal panel is now examining it further.

(H/T: Daily Mail)

Comments (179)

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  • Locked
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:46am

    Not sure if people are realizing that the quote “Sin boldly!” is from Martin Luther, founder of Protestantism, not from the pastor in question. Full quote is:
    “Be a sinner, and let your sins be strong (sin boldly), but let your trust in Christ be stronger, and rejoice in Christ who is the victor over sin, death, and the world.”

    Billy Hallowell seems to be misusing it in this case, as it means we’re all sinners but in the end we strive to love and follow Christ. Billy’s usage seems to be saying “She’s proud of sinning,” which would be a false interpretation.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:05am

      That is the worst critique I have seen of a writer here.

      You certainly have a valid point.

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:20am

      Hes just angry he got dumped….. Loser.

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    • Kerbouchard
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:45am

      Ah, so we are assuming the original use, and possible misinterpretation, is Hollawell‘s and not Strickland’s? That would be a huge (strong, bold) leap… and probably a sin, but what the hay? Let’s sin with strength and boldness!

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    • Locked
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 12:01pm

      @Kerbouchard

      “Ah, so we are assuming the original use, and possible misinterpretation, is Hollawell‘s and not Strickland’s?”

      No, the original use was Luther’s. Nowhere in the article, except for Billy Hallowell’s article title, is the phrase used.

      “That would be a huge (strong, bold) leap… and probably a sin, but what the hay?”

      Not sure how that’s a sin. Unless you‘re saying Billy’s purposeful misattribution of the quote was a sin. I suppose that makes sense.

      “Let’s sin with strength and boldness!”

      I’d prefer to love and follow Christ with strength and boldness, enough so that my sins are forgiven when I repent. You know, like Luther suggested.

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    • Wayner
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 12:04pm

      License to sin just because we‘re saved by God’s Grace is definitely something that Paul preached and wrote epistles against… His words? “God fordid”

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 12:46pm

      Does a true minister engage in fornication? She should be thrown out. It is NOT do as I say, but not as I do. You are to be an example of Christian living. Her burden is much heavier as a minister than a lay person.

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    • Uncurable wound
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 1:14pm

      Women are not to lead churches!!!!
      Spare the hate,dont believe me read you Bible!

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 1:17pm

      WAYNER… exactly right.

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    • SREGN
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 1:38pm

      Uncurable, you’re right. Women have very important roles but leadership is not one of them. Speak the truth unafraid.

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 1:54pm

      Satan doesn’t stalk SKID ROW, Satan stalks his greatest enemies, the churches. This woman is not going to like her encounter with Blessed Jesus Christ. Silly, silly people. Do you honestly think you’ll never be brought to justice in front of our Lord??

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    • KickinBack
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 2:25pm

      -Detroit Paperboy

      Yep, that sums it all up. And this man is 34 and whining like a little kid told no that he couldn’t have his candy.

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    • Drives Like Jehu
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 4:29pm

      Many atheistic trolls on the Blaze have recently whinned about Christians criticizing homosexuality more than any other sin; I guess that all the negative comments from Christians against ADULTERY in general on this thread puts the lie to the atheists’ whine.

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    • Bruce P.
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 4:47pm

      DRIVES LIKE JEHU — you don’t organize boycotts against businesses that employ adulterers. You don’t want to pass laws forbidding adulterers from getting married (though Jesus makes it clear that anyone who divorces and gets remarried is an adulterer). You don’t have pastors saying adulterers should be killed by the government, or rounded up, or little boys singing, “all adulterers are going to hell” in church.

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    • StonyBurk
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 5:51pm

      Is your comment rightly directed? My impression is the 33 yr.old female Preacher was the one quoted–not Billy Hollowell the writer of the story.Did I miss something?We do agree that the quote came from
      a long dead Protestant — but way I read the story I thought the suggestion was clear that the fornicator
      was the one saying “sin boldly.” and therefore the one who misapplied the quote.Again did I miss something?

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    • koyettsu
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 6:30pm

      …so wait wait wait. The guy slept with the woman, now feels the church is at fault for the two of them sinning? That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard, sure she should be punished, probably removed from her position but the church isn’t your parent. Grow up and start acting like a man.

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    • Yeah_Buddy
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 1:45pm

      God bless web cam sex, the new truely disease-free method.

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  • sizzler2220
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:36am

    Another reason to ban all women from the pulpit.

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    • Locked
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:47am

      … because some men will complain when they get dumped and create a scandal rather than self-reflect?

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    • brother_ed
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 12:51pm

      @SIZZLER2220

      Should we ban men from the pews?

      It takes two to tango.

      I may have a reasons why women aren’t priests, but your reason isn’t one of them.

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    • aggiebrewer
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 2:07pm

      If you want to say women should not preach because of the biblical prohibition then say so. This tryst is just humans guilty of sin. Just like me, you and every other human, we are all sinners. There are men pastors that have sexual affairs. Should we ban them too?
      Sizzler…don’t be obtuse in your statements.

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  • cookcountypatriot
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:24am

    if u 2 wanted to have pig sex,,,you should have both removed yourselves from that church and started rutting….now look what you did…..eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew

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  • rpp
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:23am

    While I think the guy here is a real whiner, and the “reverend” is a serius loser, at least it highlights the innate problems with many offshoots of Protestantism. The quote in the headline, purportedly used by Strickland, is not original. It is directly from Martin Luther, one of the “fathers” of the Protestant Revolt in the 16th Century and the founder of the Lutheran Church.

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    • eehoback
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:54am

      RPP, I like your points. You mention this article highlights the problems with some offshoots of Protestantism, but I would go further. I believe it highlights the problem with humanity. Romans chapter 3 says we are all sinners, everyone. Only Jesus Christ was perfect, which makes his sacrifice so amazing — It covers our imperfections.

      Everyone needs Christ and everyone who has accepted Christ as their Savior needs trust Him daily. This shows that all people (pastors, plumbers, young & old) are all imperfect and need Jesus daily to overcome sin and temptation. James chapter 1 talks about Christianity being a lifelong battle to overcome sin in our life — It starts with becoming a Christian (Christ follower), but doesn’t end until death.

      Humanity is flawed, not just one denomination or sub-section. Pray for both of them — the whiner (lol) and the pastor. I am more concerned with them realizing their sin and getting it fixed with God and man, than who did the sinning.

      “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.” ~Romans 3:23-24

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    • greengablesmb
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 4:07pm

      As an Episcopalian who has left her church, I will alo say the article is tellin about what is wrong with the western part of the Anglican church, ie. Episcopal church in American, the Church of Englad, etc. I am not including the African Anglican churches in this.
      First, the episcopal church probably doesn’t see a lot wrong with this if the two were unmarried. The church takes a wishy-washy stand on pre-marital sex, just as it does on abortion. Obviously, the Episcopal church now ordains women (and openly homosexual men and women). I’m old-fashioned. I think that women aren‘t God’s first choice to be pastors. In the Anglican Church, there are places of leadership for women–they’re called convents.

      I am not sure though that S. could be said to be “praying” on C. She was a youth minister. He’s a year older than her. Copeland needs to grow up. Hot affairs that resemble something out of Shades of Gray don’t last.

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    • WilkowonGBTV
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 7:11pm

      One thing alot of Catholics don‘t seem to understand is that Protestants don’t care what the “fathers” of Protestantism said. We can read and understand the Word of God for ourselves, we don’t view the beliefs of our founders as scripture.

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  • Mr.Fitnah
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:20am

    What a whiner.

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  • wkw58
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:19am

    It‘s Bush’s fault.

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  • 321481
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:09am

    You will know them by their fruits, her fruits are speaking volumes about the kind of person she is.

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  • HumbleCitizen
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:00am

    “Sin Boldly!” comes from satan.

    “Go, and sin no more”, come from Christ.

    Too many today can not tell the difference.

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:20am

      Martin Luther actually, though some might say that’s the same thing.

      One of his more well known utterances.

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    • mtfunk
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:49am

      Nzkiwi, actually the precepts of the Bible and actual words of Christ trump anything Luther hd to say, right or wrong.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:23am

      I could not find her Sin Boldly in the bible anywhere….no wonder because its not and shes a false prophet. They come in all forms. Satan came to seduce mankind, Jesus came to save his mortal soul from damnation. I pick Christ, how bout you?

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    • TEARS FOR AMERICA
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:42am

      Exactly, what is happening so very much in churches today is “enjoy sinning and living like hell” but attend church to appease the conscience…Jesus said go and sin no more…a life of rebellion against God will have consequences.

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  • VoteRightDammit
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:55am

    The Episcopal Church, again.

    What a shock.

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    • Hanner
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:08am

      Homosexual ministers, and just plain out whores for ministers. Could the Episcopal church do any more to bring shame to God’s name? This church is absolutely void of God and his teachings. These people are not of God nor do they obey the word of God. Absolutely disgusting. As far as the whiner that got dumped…if he thinks that this is a good church or that whoring around is a good doctrine then he’s got bigger issues than getting dumped. I know…..why don’t he try getting SAVED first.

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    • rickc34
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:14am

      Sin Boldly ,,, sounds like something Satan would say. Gays as reverends in the Episcopal Church, what do you expect, she is guilty of sexual sins, it is the thought not just the action according to Christ. This is not a Church that honors Gods word but practices Sin Boldly.

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    • Cavallo
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:21am

      They seem to have a doctrine of doing whatever feels good physically, rather than following traditional doctrine and seeking spiritual health through the teachings of Jesus. Rather it seems to have become a socio-political club for those who want to pretend to be Christians without any real moral or truthful commitment. Maybe they should just switch completely over to the worship of Belial, because at least then they would be honest, rather than trying to find some harmony between Jesus and Belial.

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  • Kaoscontrol
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:53am

    Pastor “Ginger”? I would have preferred “Pastor Mary Ann”.

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    • HappyHaloHousewife
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:39am

      Another great laugh…

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 12:00pm

      I know of 3 sexual industry professionals named Ginger. Certainly, the name seems to be associated with certain affinities.

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  • searching for the Truth
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:46am

    I think that both their computer screens ought to be flogged. I don’t know where the “ sin boldly ” came from – folks ! Read your Bible ( only the King James ) .

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    • molon.labe
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:11am

      Ahhh, how I love the King James legalists. I was unaware that Jesus and the Apostles spoke Shakespearean English. All this time I thought they used Greek and Aramaic. If you really want to read from the inspired text then learn the ancient languages, if that is too much trouble, then research one of the many fine versions of the Bible that are accurately translated into modern English. If you really believe that the KJV is the only translation, then I assume that you are opposed to bibles that are translated into any of the other languages spoken elsewhere on the planet. Do you believe that we need to teach the lost to read olde English before we can give them a bible?

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    • makamae
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 12:05pm

      “Searching…” – if you would read a decent translation, rather than sticking with the archaic English, poor translation, and Catholic undertones that make up the KJV, perhaps you would have already FOUND the truth.

      Jesus said: “I am the way, the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but by me.”

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    • brother_ed
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 12:55pm

      @MOLON.LABE

      I think it would be great to be able to read the Bible in it’s original form.

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    • Watchingtheweasels
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 6:31pm

      I suspect that the driving force for most of the KJV people is that they don’t want people like Pastorette Ginger translating the Word of God.

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    • searching for the Truth
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 6:51pm

      Actually, I was being sarcastic – but, I’ll let you read other works if you wish — How about , “ The Cat in the Hat ” or ” A Bag Full of Nothing.”

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    • Sgt_Rock
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 8:19pm

      @Bro_Ed…well, I hope you can read Greek.

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    • chips1
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:42pm

      Who is this King James guy and what other books did he edit? Did he pick and choose the Bible Verses that suited his own ideas? Sort of like the Readers Digest version.

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    • chucksue351
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 4:51am

      kjv is just as flawed as other translations, it has a cult like following of adherents who think that they have a closer walk with YHVH because of their stance, the best version of the scriptures is the one that you read and then obey. the original messianic scriptures were most likely written in hebrew and aramaic as that was the language of the region the reason that the greek manuscript do not agree in toto is due to the fact they are all translations of the original, when looked at as a whole we can get a concenus of the meaning of the original intent. the kjv is a good translation but only that.

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    • searching for the Truth
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 11:41pm

      I believe they got a coloring book that will help you guy’s .

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    • searching for the Truth
      Posted on July 10, 2012 at 11:52pm

      Putting all kidding aside – there is quite an sacred history behind the King James, But I have already written on it, and besides you probably couldn’t empathize.

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  • CapnBill
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:43am

    I don’t see any sinning here!! Man and woman both single, a little kinky for a pastor but whatever.

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    • VoteRightDammit
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:57am

      Not a Pastor – an Episcopal Minister.

      Given the Episcopal Church is no longer a religious institution at all, but merely a social club (esp. for gas, eyc.), I AGREE. Nothing out of the ordinary here.

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    • SREGN
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 3:21pm

      Fornication (sex outside of marraige) is a sin, Cap’n.

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  • teddrunk
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:30am

    A woman pastor? Now even God is forced to accept a token.

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    • battles
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:52am

      What is it again that God instructed concerning women becoming ministers?

      1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

      Tit 1:5 …and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:
      Tit 1:6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
      Tit 1:7 For a bishop must be…

      Elders refers to church elders, bishop refers to ministers. Both must be the “husband of one wife”, therefore men.

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:00am

      and then I hear people say that the Bible treats women equally as men.

      Give me a break.

      I can just see you having a daughter.

      “Mommy, Daddy, can I be anything I want when I grow up?”
      “You sure can dear, anything you want!”
      “Even a Pastor?”
      “ehhhhhhhhhhh, well no, not that.”

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    • AlmostaCowboy
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:39am

      @moderation- why attack the poster? Your argument is with God. I‘m sure He’d like to hear from you.

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 8:59pm

      @ALMOSTACOWBOY

      I can‘t attack something I don’t think exists.

      The only thing that I can potentially attack is the people who follow such mind-limiting nonsense.

      If a God did exist, and it told me that women weren’t allowed to be Pastors simply because they are women I would choose to not follow such a sexist and evil monster.

      Please don‘t tell me that the Bible doesn’t preach the subjugation of women, the owning of slaves and the hatred of homosexuals when many believers are so willing to say “You can’t be something(a pastor) simply because of the way you were born(a woman).”

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  • canadianlady
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:22am

    Looks like this woman picked the wrong man, one who will kiss and then tell when things don’t go his way. I hope the church ignores the man.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:09am

      The man is 34 years old. OMG he has an affair & because he is not getting anything anymore he gets even. Pathetic.

      34 y/o man says she is an authority figure so it clouded his judgement. Right then & there I decided that a person would not want to have him as their doctor.

      The affair was wrong, but he comes across as weak, insipid & vindictive.

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  • SocialistSlayer
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:22am

    It seems the Episcopal church is out of control. Mostly Commie-Crats. The one in Falls Church Virginia, (Santa Maria) is a haven for illegals. They have all kinds of wild parties in the basement involving alcohol and their Pastor is very much involved. Just a really revolting situation.

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    • Todd P
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:35am

      That’s why some of us in the Episcopal Church are calling ourselves “Anglicans” as a reference to the traditional Church vs the new Church. Others are joining the Catholic Church. Some just go along – but many are heartsick about it and have no voice in the affairs of church administration.

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    • Cavallo
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:01am

      You may have to break off things more than that. Have you heard some of the crazy stuff the Bishop in England has been saying? The Catholics in England are actually winning quite a few converts from the Anglicans because of the Anglican loose sexual moralities. More and more it seems that the certain denominations are adopting “Do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the law.”

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:21am

      Todd, The Episcopal church has no monopoly on Christ. Find a new church.

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  • SamIamTwo
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:21am

    LAODICEA

    I know all about you: how you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were one or the other, but since you are neither, but only lukewarm, I will spit you out of my mouth. You say to yourself, ‘I am rich, I have made a fortune, and have everything I want’, never realizing that you are wretchedly and pitiably poor, and blind and naked too.

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:30am

      I had to look that up to understand it, Sam.

      Nice.

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  • nzkiwi
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:19am

    Hell hath no fury like a parishioner scorned, it seems…

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  • AIDANMAN
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:11am

    liberal male… looking for a payday

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    • chips1
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:57pm

      I hope the closet door dosn’t hit his a$$ on the way out.

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  • WillG
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:10am

    That is surprising. You usually see the situation going the other way. By no means shocking though.

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  • Baddoggy
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:09am

    We have a lot bigger problems than this….
    Executive order signed on Friday. FULL CONTROL of all communications….

    They now have more control than HITLER did!!

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/07/06/executive-order-assignment-national-security-and-emergency-preparedness-

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    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:23am

      Hitler. I said HITLER PEOPLE! HITLER!!!!

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:31am

      Yeah like a church who is messed up and messing up hundreds is not an issue??? It is a major contributor to what is going on…

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:48am

      EXECUTIVE ORDERS•

      A. EO 10995 provides for the takeover of the communications media.

      B. EO 10997 provides for the takeover of all electric power, petroleum, gas and other fuels and minerals.

      C. EO 10998 provides for the takeover of all food resources and the nation’s farms.

      D. EO 10999 provides for the takeover of all modes of transportation, control of highways, seaports etc.

      E. EO 11000 provides for mobilization of all civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

      F. EO 11001 provides for government takeover of all health and welfare functions.

      G. EO 11002 designates the postmaster general to operate national registration of all persons.

      H. EO 11003 provides for the government to takeover airports and aircraft.

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    • NJBarFly
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:48am

      Is it possible to have one Blaze story, just one, in which some idiot doesn’t mention Hitler?

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  • CaptMickeyd
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:09am

    Another instance where the Bible is being misused. I recall one of the qualifications of being a preacher that he be a man. No offense intended to you spiritual ladies out there, but God has an order of things, and women as pastors and preachers is not permitted, at least not Biblicly.

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:22am

      Umm… not wishing to start a theological squabble, but I have read the bible (a long time ago, admittedly). Where does it say that?

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    • canadianlady
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:23am

      Amen!

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    • jman-6
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:33am

      Amen!

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    • jman-6
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:36am

      2Timothy

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    • DoctorRon
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:37am

      If you read the Bible, you will find that the Apostle Paul appointed several women to lead churches, including Lydia and Prisca. The prohibition against women priests did not begin until the 4th century and it was socially based, not Biblically.

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:38am

      nzkiwi

      Start here and do your own study of the subject:

      God is a God of order and balance. He has established order within the family (Gen. 3:16; 1 Cor. 11:3; Eph. 5:22-33; Col. 3:18-21 ) and the church (1 Tim. 2:11-14; 1 Cor. 11:8-9). Even within the Trinity there is an order, a hierarchy. The Father sent the Son (John 6:38) and both the Father and the Son sent the Holy Spirit (John 14:26; 15:26). Jesus said, “For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me,” (John 6:38). It is clear that God is a God of order and structure.

      In creation, God made Adam first and then Eve to be his helper. This is the order of creation. It is this order that Paul mentions in 1 Tim. 2:11-14 when speaking of authority. Being a pastor or an elder is to be in the place of authority. Therefore, within the church, for a woman to be a pastor or elder, she would be in authority of men in the church which contradicts what Paul says in 1 Tim. 2:11-14.

      Additionally, in the Old Testament in over 700 mentions of priests, every single one was a male. There is not one instance of a female priest. This is significant because priests were ordained by God to hold a very important office of ministering the sacrifices. This was not the job of women. Therefore, from what I see in Genesis 1-2, 1 Timothy 2, and Titus 1, the normal and proper person to hold the office of elder/pastor is to be a man.

      Start there and get back at me.

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:57am

      Well, you guys are right.

      I’m certainly being schooled this morning.

      Well, it was a long time ago as I said (school days, in fact), but I guess I should have known better than to question you guys about a biblical matter.

      Thanks, Sam, for going to that trouble. I appreciate it.

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    • VoteRightDammit
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:59am

      None of that pesky “Bible Stuff” applies when dealing with the Episcopal church.

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    • R4M0N
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:09am

      @DoctorRon

      The bible never says the Lydia and Priscilla (I assume you meant Priscilla) were pastors or priestesses. They opened up their houses for the church to meet, but it never said they were running the church as pastors. They couldn’t… Not because they weren‘t worthy or didn’t have the skills, but because it wasn‘t their part in God’s plan. It has never been. And they knew it and also knew their worth before God wasn’t dictated by their position in church.

      A person’s worth to God has never been determined by position: Abraham was the father of God’s nation but he was not the Priest, Melchisedec was.

      Moses led israel from captivity and received instructions directly from God daily…but he wasn’t a priest, his cousin was.

      Esther saved the Jews from extermination as the queen of Persia, but she wasn’t the spiritual leader.

      David was a man after God’s own heart and king of the whole nation, but he was not the priest…

      There were 12 tribes in Israel, but only one was allowed to work in the temple, not because the others couldn’t do the work or were not worthy or loved by God.

      God is the God of order is hierarchy. Not our kind of hierarchy though that derives worth from positions… Women are just as worthy as man in God’s eyes and they can be and are instrumental pieces of his plan of salvation, but they were not called to be shepherds of the flock.

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    • Bearfoot
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 12:48pm

      Excellent comments from all, in this comment stream!

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    • DissenterKnight
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 1:00pm

      Those who oppose women in the pulpit traditionally fall back on “let them be the husband of one wife”.
      However, this is generally considered to be an admonition that the pastor have only one responsibility; that they be focused on the business of Christ. it also flys in the face of Priscilla, who Paul called his equal in service.

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  • netmail
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:08am

    She’s ugly. He’s stupid. I just love churches with ‘EASY’ buttons too: “Sin Boldly”? Yep, there’s a church for that.

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    • TEARS FOR AMERICA
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 12:11pm

      Why are all women “ugly” if they are not in stilletto heals, tight jeans and have a perfect body and perfect face? Good grief…some of you guys are pretty lame…some women may not be Raquel Welch but they love from their heart, they are hard workers and deep dedicated companions…get over the outward entrampment and seek a woman of true value…this preacher woman-maybe not so much.

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    • Bruce P.
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 4:50pm

      TEARS FOR AMERICA — it has nothing to do with what she is wearing. People on the Blaze always comment on how ugly a woman is when they do not agree with her actions or politics.

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    • Watchingtheweasels
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 6:37pm

      That’s the southern use of ugly, Tears. As in she is being ugly. As for where she is loving from, it ain’t her heart.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:06am

    Since the Episcopal church allows practicing homosexuals to serve, I guess “Be a sinner and let your sins be strong, but let your trust in Christ be stronger.” is church doctrine. What can they say to her?

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  • JQCitizen
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:01am

    Campano: ” I felt betrayed by my church, who is supposed to enforce rules against pastors having relationships with their parishioners.”

    And I feel like I’m listening to a WHINY BABY, instead of a 34 year old MAN! LIVE AND LEARN Mr. Campano!!!

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:19am

      That’s it pretty much in a nutshell. I certainly have no sympathy for his whining either. He should have been adult enough to know better.

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    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:25am

      Agreed.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:09am

      It is said that Jesus turned water into wine and that He said All this you can do and more.

      Campano’s Bible must have a typo…. whine.

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  • sWampy
    Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:00am

    At least they were both adults and of opposite sexes.

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    • muddpuddle
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:44am

      TThats what I’m talking about!

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    • Locked
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 9:55am

      “At least they were both adults and of opposite sexes.”

      Last time I checked, sex when you’re not married is still a sin…

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    • VoteRightDammit
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:01am

      “Last time I checked, sex when you’re not married is still a sin…”

      Not for the Episcopal church.

      They are all progressive and whatnot, and have shucked off the yoke of being transformed. The delight in God’s desire for us to all be cozy and conformed to the ways of man.

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    • edmundburk
      Posted on July 9, 2012 at 10:09pm

      Okay all you hypocritical protestants, 1. I don’t want to read another post about the catholic sex scandles sin is sin, especially when it involves the clergy. 2. I don’t want to read about how protestants
      follow the bible only, when it says in the book of Timothy that you should not have a woman above you.
      (meaning no women clergy.) 3. I don’t want to hear what a whiner this guy is. could you imagine the outrage you protestants would have if we call all the victims of the priestly sex scandles “whiners”?!

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