‘Smothering’ Pundit: Abortions Can be ‘Moral’ and ‘Unselfish’ for Disabled Kids
- Posted on October 5, 2010 at 9:53am by
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More from U.K. advice columnist Virginia Ironside:
Abortion can often be seen as something wicked or irresponsible but in fact it can be a moral and unselfish act. If a baby is to be born severely disabled or totally unwanted, surely abortion is the act of a loving mother.
(H/T: Hot Air)
The video appears to be the introduction to a video posted yesterday, in which Ironside admits she would smother a child if it was in “agony.”
Who is Ironside? Besides an advice columnist, a quick look at her website shows at least what she is: she describes herself as “Not totally happy,” adding, “but who is? Don’t let’s kid ourselves. Many more of us wake up in the morning dreading the day ahead than would like to admit.”



















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Mikee T
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:39amTo quote Gordon Getko in “Wall Street”….. One thing about WASP’s, they love animals, can’t stand people…. Of course, I am taking that a little bit out of context but it makes you wonder how people who would and do stand up and scream for animals’ rights…..would have the audacity to verbalize this kind of crap……….even if she thought it, a god fearing woman would not publicize that opinion…
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 1:44pmShe is niether good nor God fearing
Report Post »AnAverageAmerican
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:30amThis woman’s comments are pure evil. At the heart of who she is, that she could look at an innocent child, even worse a disabled child, and think it was compassionate to murder that child – it is EVIL. Her remarks about abortion are equally disgusting and heartless – again, evil.
Report Post »gulf4
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:28amI bet Stephen Hawkings is glad this woman wasn’t his mother.
Report Post »SheSang
Posted on December 13, 2010 at 9:57pmHawking was diagnosed with ALS when he was 21 years old.
Report Post »Okiegal
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:27amI am gobsmacked by her way of thinking, she is whacko to the nth degree…
Anyone who condones this is not a thinking feeling loving human being…
God knows when a child or an adult has had enough, He calls them home in his good time.
Why are children born with crippling illnesses? To teach us compassion, to help us find cures, to love unconditionally, to give love to that person, so in her mind death is the kind act? It is a cop out, she has no heart, no soul…
How dare she say you would be ‘smothering a couple cells’…it’s a child.
God will be her Judge.
Report Post »SADworldWEliveIN
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:26amPeople make me sick.
Report Post »5
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 11:26amYa. Some are pretty darn sick.
Without God someone will play Him.
Report Post »napoleon50
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:25amI think we should be buying stocks in Jack Boots, they will go nowhere but up.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:24amThis woman or anyone who believes what she does, has lost their soul, no doubt about it. Semper Fi.
Report Post »TheMarine
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:24amI have come to the conclusion that to have such radical beliefs as this, a person must have a deep mental illness. The attack on life these days is growing out of control.
Report Post »CommunismSurvivor
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 6:19pmThank you! I have been thinking the exact same thing! One can’t spew such rubbish and be in their right mind!
Report Post »Carol in MA
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:24amGinsburg: I thought Roe was to rid undesirables?
Report Post »In an interview with the New York Times Magazine, 7/08/2009….US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg says; she was under the impression that legalizing abortions with the Roe vs Wade case would eliminate undesirable members of the populace, “Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of….so that Roe was going to be set for Medicaid funding for abortion.” She’s talking about RACE not birth defects!!!
This lady is US Supreme Court JUSTICE!!
Mizurax
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:17am“If a baby is to be born… totally unwanted, surely abortion is the act of a loving mother.” What utter and absolute nonsense. What kind of idiot reads that and think there is sense there?
I tell my wife all the time, “I don’t want you to be my wife, because I love you so much.” Makes sense to me…
Report Post »superfide
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:17amHer position has nothing to do with compassion for the child. It’s selfishness, pure and simple. She wants to smother suffering children because of how it makes HER feel when she looks at them, not how the child feels. SHE doesn’t want to be confronted with negative circumstances, so she cloaks her selfishness in compassion. That thinking is a total cop-out. Rather than get involved and do something to help the suffering, she’d rather not be confronted with it, and she is justifying murder by calling it compassion.
Report Post »Rapunzel
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 12:24pmBrilliant analysis!
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:15amOrwell was right: War is peace, Freedom is slavery, Ignorance is strength.
Revolution anyone?
Report Post »Waiting4George
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:11amI am haunted by the photo from One Nation of the little girl holding the Socialism sign. She is one of how many being indoctrinated as we speak?
Report Post »theninthplanet
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:08amKilling your unwanted child is loving. I can’t find a flaw with this logic [/sarcasm]
Report Post »QweeQwa
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:07amChrist, wasn’t this covered yesterday.
What is worse?
This or Glenn Beck saying that slavery was started with only the best intentions and if it wasn’t for government regulations slavery was…..you know….pretty cool.
This comes from a addict that dares to compare himself with MLK.
AnAverageAmerican
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:27amQweeqwa – I am quite sure that Glenn Beck has NEVER said anything even remotely similar to “slavery was pretty cool,” so I’d love to see your source of that quote.
And your dig at Glenn Beck’s former drinking problem was a low blow. Petty and sad.
Report Post »PatriotRider
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 11:36amQweeqwa- Given your other posts, you probably are of the opinion that Christians approve of this message. I’m going out on a limb to say “Nay! Nay!” and that it is the likes of you who think this is a resonable solution.
Report Post »QweeQwa
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 11:42amhttp://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/glenn-beck-claims-slavery-was-not-really-bad-until-government-got-involved
It was a low blow but after the comments he made last summer about unemployed workers I thought it was warranted
Workers through no fault of their own are on unemployment. In many cases their jobs were outsoursed because of the same policies that Rev. Beck supports. No, contrary to the Rev. Beck, they are not the problem. Glenn Beck through no fault but his own became an addict. See how that works. What is good for the goose is good for the gander..
Report Post »Prospero
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 11:55amQweeqwa blathers mindlessly: “jobs were outsoursed because of the same policies”
Which policies cause outsourcing, and why? How much insourcing exists in America?
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 1:40pmQWEEQUA you should watch Beck and maybe learn somethin before you open your mouth and make a fool of yourself
Report Post »caitlynsdad
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 2:51pmYes, as others have been saying, you’re missing the point. GB’s point was not about slavery–he was using that as illustration of a more general point, which is that it‘s not people’s **intentions** that matter, but the **results**. Global warming alarmism starts with good intentions, and ends in evil, just like slavery started with good intentions though the system itself was evil. It’s not what people are **intending**, it‘s what they’re actually **doing**.
Report Post »itasca
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:05amBecause I believe it is every ones right to end their life. I do not find this woman’s comment to be horrible. She qualifies her action by stating the child must be suffering horribly with out hope for survival. I am a chronic pain patient so I know what suffering is and for those of you who have not suffered protracted pain you do not know what you are talking about.
Report Post »Rapunzel
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 12:22pmDoes that mean you want someone ELSE to make the decision to end your suffering by killing you?
Report Post »Prospero
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 1:04pmItasca writes: “She qualifies her action by stating the child must be suffering horribly with out hope for survival.”
No, that’s not at all what she said. That’s what *you* project onto her, which illuminates your very own revulsion. A revulsion that, despite your pleading to chronic pain, still twists your perceptions.
What she said was, “If a baby is to be born severely disabled or totally unwanted, surely abortion is the act of a loving mother.”
No mention of suffering, no mention of pain, no mention of hopelessness. What she said was if the baby encumbers the mother by being imperfect or unwanted, it would be selfish not to abort it.
In Orwell’s “1984”, this sort of mental dysfunction is called “blackwhite”.
Report Post »AsIWept
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 1:57pmI’m sorry but this statement of yours offends me “Because I believe it is every ones right to end their life”. Not everyone that is disabled is suffering..not only that but they may not be of an age that would qualify them to make that choice. My son was 10 months old and I had to make the choice to take him off of life support. It was THE hardest thing I ever had to do (and I was only 21) at the time. The Dr.’s could no longer keep him such a high presure of oxygen on the ventilator and his internal organs were shutting down. I had no choice, BUT let me tell you those months I had with him were the best of my life! Yes he did suffer, some may have said it wasn’t fair to him, but to see his smile made it worth it all! So I just want you to know that not everyone that is suffering can make that choice because of age. I live with my choice everyday of my life and it kills me a little each day to think about what I had to do! I am also a chronic pain patient and whose right is it to put a pillow over my head to end my “suffering”? Even though I hurt 24/7 I still have 3 beautiful chidren and a wonderful Husband to live for! It’s called making a sacrifice for those that you love above yourself!
Sorry, I just feel so strongly about this! My baby Brandon was an innocent and didn’t ask to be born the way he was, but I WOULD NOT trade those months for anything! IMO he helped make me the Mom I am today! I also believe that he is with me every minute of everyday . He is and always will be my pefect little angel! If you look at my profile, he is my profile pic, now tell me if he deserved to have a pillow put ove his head and smothered!
Report Post »GeorgeWashingtonslept here
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:05amWTF? For your sake I hope God has mercy on your worthless soul………….
Report Post »LadyIzShy
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:05amsad that people thnk like this.. May God work in thier heart to change how they think
Report Post »truthortradition.com
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:04amWhy don’t we abort her? Would that be moral and unselfish?
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:03amSurely this proves your mother must not have been loving or else she never would have raised the monster you are. How pathetic that this is the way you value life and love and find that the only way you can gain acceptance (a platform) is by becoming a monster. It is close to Halloween so maybe this is just your own personal horror show – it is for many that have viewed you and disagree. You sound like you are suffering in your own psyche – pillow anyone? (a joke)
Report Post »Iamtheoracle
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:02amIt is a contradiction. I love you so much I will kill you before you even have a chance to live. Because certainly I dont love you enough to love you and nurture you through the precious time you may have in life. It is the ultimate act of selfishness and the idea that we should just kill things that we don’t want…
Report Post »JehovahJireh1
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 2:12pmIf we are looking for perfection, guess what none of us should be living. I had a friend whose grandson was severly disabled and only his eyes moved. He has to be cared for 24/7. They didn’t throw him away or put him in a home to hide him (or Kill him). When they came out with the computers for the disabled they hooked him up with one and found he had the mind of a genius and is one of the top computer tekkies in the state. He is highly paid now and has his own nurse to care for him. Just because someone is trapped in a body that they can’t control or looks offensive too others does not mean they are not a viable human being! Life begins at conception! You can tell she is no christian. She has no compassion but for her agenda! May God’s mercy endureth forever!!!!!
Report Post »BQI
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:01amThe decline is here. The world is at a crisis moment with people like this. Sad!
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Report Post »Waiting4George
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:08amBQI–You’re scaring me. Thanks. We all need to be.
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:24amThanks BQI, love your site. Am spreading the word to all I know.
Report Post »BQI
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:33amThanks to both of you but Glenn is the man. I’m listening to him now and he is discussing the very thing I will report on later today.Check out the blog later today for some real troubling video. NOT trying to scare but inform :-)
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Report Post »Tomr
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 12:02pmInteresting site…I will check it out daily
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:01amNot having an abortion selfishness??? NO IT”S MURDER!!!!!
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 1:35pmI am a single mom who does not receive any help from my babys father (kids 13 now) and though it was frightening and out of my budget to raise a child I never considered murdering him. Adoption was considered until I heard his little heart beat and I fell in love. Thank God I am not so arogant as to think He didn’t know what was best for me when He put this beautiful child in my life, I have never been as happy in my life as I have been in the past 13 years.
Report Post »caitlynsdad
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:00amSanity to Ms. Ironside: It’s a human being, not an animal. You euthanize an old and suffering pet, or a horse that has been wounded beyond hope of recovery. Not a human being. Your “morality” is sadly lacking in understanding the crucial distinction between human beings and animals.
Report Post »ME
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:30amYes, talk about smothering a cat, dog or God forbid a tree and watch the world come undone but just a kid or the handicap and your an enlightened progressive. Oh I am sorry I said kid not fetus did not mean to actually think that they might be a living thing not just some kind of zit that needs to be removed from your body.
Report Post »NoName22
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:45amLife is life, whether or not it is human or animal. The only difference between humans and animals is humans can reshape their world. We are better because our brain is bigger?
Swans mate for life……Mother emperor penguins attempt to steal other young penguin chicks if they happen to lose their own chicks.
You’re no better than a dog or cat……I would go as far to say cockroach, but I kill those things because they just scare the hell out of me, so even I’m a bit hypocritical. Life is life, no matter what.
Report Post »NoName22
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:46amNot that I agree with her in anyway, she probably does not even have kids.
It’ll make you think twice when you watch 300 again though.
Report Post »caitlynsdad
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:47am@Me
I always get perplexed by this standard moonbat line: “A woman has the right to do what she wants with her own body!”
Sure, except that the “fetus” is **not** “her own body.” The baby has its own body. It has its own bloodstream independent of the mother, its own DNA independent of the mother, it can feel pain or pleasure independent of the mother. It is a separate, individual human being; it may depend upon the mother for its survival, but so does a newborn, so does a young child.
I’ve heard moonbats all outraged when abortion doctors are called “baby killers.” Well, you can really only object to that if you think it’s something other than killing, or something other than a baby. I’m not that intellectually dishonest. The problem starts with the denial that all human life is of equal worth precisely because human beings are made in the image of God. Once you deny that, then human beings are only worthwhile because of their advantage or disadvantage to other human beings, or to the state.
Report Post »caitlynsdad
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:47amNo Name, you miss the point. We are not better because our brain is bigger. We are better because we are made in the image of God. That’s true even of trolls and moonbats.
Report Post »CoFX
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:58amCan you imagine how many Liberals would be rioting in the streets if she had suggested smothering a sick kitten with a pillow?
Report Post »ME
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 11:34amcaitlynsdad
100% correct
NoName22
I am sorry but I grow up on a farm and still raise and kill animals to eat. I do not kill for trophies but I still do not begrudge those that do. Butchering chickens, slaughtering sheep, cattle and pork I butcher much of our meat myself, making sausage from the shot to the head to the plate all without it leaving the farm. Do you think your hamburger comes from a burger tree?? You may be a vegetarian but ether way please understand animals are here for food then pets and don’t let your emotions blind you from the truth.
Report Post »NoName22
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 11:39am@Caitlyn’s Dad
So in what image did God make other creatures? Just because God enlisted Adam to help name all the animals and plants does not make them lesser than us.
On the issue of abortion: I’ve been pro choice most of my life based mostly on the fact that if it is made illegal, women will still attempt to do it (clothes hangers). Pro-life is the ultimate goal, I don’t think anyone can deny that, but while on here last week, I saw someone write this, and I’m paraphrasing:
“Why is it that abortion is legal, yet if a pregnant woman is murdered, it’s double homicide?”
Which to me means, either it’s a single murder killing a pregant women (Pro-choice) or double homicide (Pro-Life)……Kinda made me rethink my stance. You can’t have it both ways. That’s called being a hypocrite.
Report Post »NoName22
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 11:47am@Me
I’m no vegan. I guess I just misread CaitlynsDad…..Like you said, trophy killings are what I do not care for. Just remember to eat all the food, that’s a huge problem in America. Eating half a steak then throwing it out. Not accusing either of you, but I cannot stand watching the fat guy on the travel channel eat a 6lb burger, for entertainment. It’s really like Jabba the Hutt, in a moral sense.
Report Post »Prospero
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 11:51amNoname babbles ignorantly: “Just because God enlisted Adam to help name all the animals and plants does not make them lesser than us.”
“And God blessed [Adam and Eve], and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.” – Genesis 1:28
Kindly refrain from publicly displaying your abject ignorance.
Report Post »caitlynsdad
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 12:08pm@No Name
In answer to the first question, we are told that God created human beings in his own image–that was the purpose of his creating them. We are left to presume that God made the other creatures in an original form that he invented at the moment of their creation.
In answer to your point about abortion, your reasoning is false. Lots of things are illegal, and people still try to do them anyway. So you’re really making an argument for making everything legal. If stealing a car is illegal, and someone steals a car anyway, that doesn’t make me a hypocrite for believing that theft should be illegal. It makes the thief and the thief alone guilty. What you have going on here is an amazing transfer of guilt from the person who committed the crime to the person who outlawed the crime.
Report Post »NoName22
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 12:23pm@CaitlynsDad
I understand your reasoning. And I am saying that after I read the quote that I paraphrased, I am currently rethinking my stance on the abortion issue. In other words, leaning more towards Pro-Life.
Granted, I may have misspoke, but I’m certainly open to listening to good ideas and intelligent thoughts, which you seem to have. But sheesh, burn me at the stake for attempting to learn.
@Prospero
Again, I thank you for your input. But please, don’t burn me at the stake
Genesis 2:19-20
Report Post »19 Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name.
20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field.
Rapunzel
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 12:25pmProspero, while your correction of NoName was accurate it was certainly unkind!
Report Post »caitlynsdad
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 12:37pm@No Name
Report Post »Good to know you are keeping an open mind–you are a cut above a lot of others I’ve spoken with. And I’m certainly not trying to “burn you at the stake”–sometimes my passion about a subject gets the better of me, and I can appear uncharitable. My words were not meant that way, so I apologize if they seemed to be.
In terms of the question of treatment of animals, God gave human beings authority over them, but certainly not the authority to slaughter or mistreat them. There are humane ways to kill animals for food, and certain animals are off limits for food (such as dogs or cats). My own reason for making the contrast was simply to point out that while it is right to mercy-kill a suffering dog, it is not right to mercy-kill a human being. Human beings are made in the image of God, dogs are not.
caitlynsdad
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 12:38pm@Prospero
Report Post »Good to see you back. I trust Caliban’s been tamed? Gotta watch out for him. Is he posting over at Media Matters? I thought I detected the whiff of savagery over there.
Prospero
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 12:56pmNoname writes: “Genesis 2:19-20″
You have difficulty with simple English? Let’s review:
Noname wrote: “Just because God enlisted Adam to help name all the animals and plants does not make them lesser than us.”
A reading of this sentence by anyone with fifth-grade or higher English skills reveals your assertion that our dominance of the animal kingdom is a product of being empowered to name them.
Nobody has commented on our having named them. I demonstrated that our naming them is not what grants us dominance. Thus, your argument is based on a false premise, and is void. We are, in fact, explicitly given dominance.
If you continue having difficulty with simple English comprehension, there are surely many community colleges in your area offering remedial classes at reasonable rates.
Rapunzel writes: “Prospero, while your correction of NoName was accurate it was certainly unkind!”
I have no remaining reserves of kindness for those who equate humans to cockroaches. People like that are enablers of infanticide, the barbaric scourge of our age.
Report Post »daf45
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 1:01pmNo Aninals have more protection now a days then any of the Children unless they need them to save a goverment program then they want the child.
Report Post »NoName22
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 1:01pmGuess you don’t believe in forgiveness. I believe in being wrong.
Don’t let your passion burn up your empathy.
Report Post »TrollHunter
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 2:45pm@ Prospero
argumentum ad hominem…It’s not the most effective way to argue a point; it’s just irritating (…I wonder if that’s why politicians use it so often). Please use facts when you expostulate rather than trying to create a link between an individual’s grammatical proficiency and the strength of his/her argument.
Report Post »Melvin Spittle
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 5:58pm@NoName22
“On the issue of abortion: I’ve been pro choice most of my life based mostly on the fact that if it is made illegal, women will still attempt to do it (clothes hangers).”
I find some fault in your logic. The slippery slope logic error to be exact. Please provide a valid argument.
Report Post »Texas.7
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 11:52pmThat is what happens when rights don’t come from God. If there is no God, there is no eternal life, and then there is nothing immoral about killing another human being. Now, I am not saying that atheists don’t instinctively have morals- they do, if they are normal. I’m just saying that if you take God out of the equation, you COULD decide that YOU have the right to determine the value of another human life. That is why God is always removed from communist systems… He gets kinda upset about the whole genocide, abortion, persecution thing… If they can convince themselves that their is not God, then humans elevate themselves as gods, selecting a ruling class who measures power, wealth and justice to all.
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:00amHow in the world was this woman taught love or should I say the lack of it. Sorry but she and her progressive friends are so cruel. It‘s a wonder the word love doesn’t burn their mouths as they speak it. This is just beyond me.
Report Post »Mikee T
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:35amEven if this wacko felt that way it is unconscionable to verbalize it. They have no consciences …period. They are amoral, agnostist in their very fabric and being. Even if something like this goes on, it shouldn’t be publically supported by anyone. If a woman makes a decision like that (I am male) that’s between her and her maker……I don’t support it, I don’t condemn her, I just dont’ want to know or hear about it and certainly, don’t want left wing broads trying to convince me of it.
Report Post »5
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 10:51amThis Lady is only thinking of Her self. She doesn’t want to be working with Her sick Kid.
Report Post »Selfish people all think this way.
I can’t have a baby right now. KILL IT.
This isn’t a good time. KILL IT.
It doesn’t have a hand. KILL IT.
It doesn’t have a toe. KILL IT.
It looks kind of sick. KILL IT.
It doesn’t have blue eyes. KILL IT.
It’s not as pretty as I thought it would be. KILL IT.
You are a sick and very selfish person, <- – KILL IT.
caitlynsdad
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 12:23pm@Prospero
Report Post »Good to see you back. I trust Caliban’s been tamed? Gotta watch out for him. Is he posting over at Media Matters? I thought I detected the whiff of savagery over there.
jtread
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 5:43pmI just have to say that I was 38 years old when I gave birth to my daughter. She was perfectly healthy and a blessing!!!!!! I refused all genetic testing while I was pregnant because it would not have changed the outcome of her birth AT ALL!!! I would have given birth to her no matter what so why the testing??? I would have worried while carrying her and that could have been detremental to her health. I just prayed for her every day.
Report Post »Mr.Beno
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 9:27pmThere is a special place in Hell for people like her!
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