Sodomy & Bestiality Bans Will Stay in Military Law Books
- Posted on December 16, 2011 at 5:03pm by
Madeleine Morgenstern
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Language banning sodomy and bestiality in the military has been reinserted into the annual defense authorization bill, which is now headed for President Barack Obama’s signature.
According to CNS News, the provision that would have repealed Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice was dropped in a House-Senate conference committee on the final version of the bill.
As The Blaze previously reported, when the Senate voted to approve its version of the bill last month, it included a provision that repealed Article 125, which specifically prohibits sodomy and having sex with animals.
Pentagon officials had described the change as largely a “legal housekeeping matter,” according to Stars and Stripes: The sodomy ban was struck long ago by the Supreme Court, and bestiality is prohibited elsewhere in military law. But the repeal prompted a storm of outrage, particularly from the conservative Family Research Council, which accused the administration of using the military to promote its “radical social agenda,” particularly on the heels of Obama overturning the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy for gay soldiers.
The provision continued to make news when a reporter asked White House press secretary Jay Carney during a briefing whether the president approved or disapproved of bestiality in the armed forces. Carney brushed the question aside, refusing to comment and said to move on to “something more serious.“ People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals subsequently criticized Carney for treating the issue ”flippantly” and also sent a letter to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, urging the ban be reinstated.
Several senators, including John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), told CNS they were unaware the Senate bill had contained language dropping the ban. The Senate had approved it 93-7.
PETA told Stars and Stripes the organization welcome the decision.
“Even if this part of the statute is for all intents and purposes dormant, the Department of Defense has given its assurance that anyone committing a sexually abusive act with a member of another species will be prosecuted,” PETA spokewoman Colleen O’Brien said.
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Comments (49)
Seneca264
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 10:23pmThe ******* and perverts in our government are doing a great job destroying our military.
Report Post »HawkEyeTx
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:02pm#
Report Post »Hey you congressional idiots, READ THE DAMN BILLS,,,,,please for the sake of humanity.
don young
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:40pmI sure hope so if they don,t you are all as crazy as ron paul.
Report Post »Al J Zira
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:53pmBoth these men were member of the military. While I don’t expect them to remember the entire Uniform Code of Military Justice you mean they can’t pick up a phone and call someone, anyone to find out what they might have overlooked? Sure they caught the sodomy/bestiality clause but what else have they missed?
Report Post »joehanx2
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:17pmSeveral senators, including John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), told CNS they were unaware the Senate bill had contained language dropping the ban. The Senate had approved it 93-7. doesn`t anybody read the damn things before they vote on it
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:20pmNope. Remember the famous words “You have to pass it to see what’s in it.”
Report Post »Vickie Dhaene
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:27pmNo, they are too busy spending money!!!
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:29pmjoehanx2
I noticed the same thing. They are passing stuff without reading it. What is the hurry of passing bills they don’t read.
Omnibus bills are bullsh_t!
The Devil himself could insert language into bills & no one would be the wiser. Realistically though Abramoff or anyone else have inserted language into bills & no one was the wiser.
Get through college without reading a book. Get though law school without reading. Get through congress without reading Bills.
Report Post »Jinglebob
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:50pmI see more and more hints that this president is…a little shall we say, unmanily.
Report Post »cuinsong
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:27pmNo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »cuinsong
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:30pmNo they did not but after all it’s above their pay grade right!!
Report Post »kcinco
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:07pm“Several senators, including John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), told CNS they were unaware the Senate bill had contained language dropping the ban.” What else are several senators missing? Government reform is required.
Report Post »SirBeavis
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:13pmSo, once again, Senators vote for a bill which they have not read and have no idea what’s in it. I’d like a senator to insert I sentence into a bill saying: “For all Senators voting yes on this bill, the yes vote constitutes a resignation of office effective immediately.” I think that would solve the not reading the bill problem.
Report Post »SHIPMONEY100TRILLION
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:16amObama practices Beateality or he would not be for it.
Report Post »jollylama
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 8:57pmOf course he does.. Have you seen his wife? – rim shot!
Report Post »seanpatriot
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:05amSo that SHOULD repeal the repeal on DADT right?
Report Post »carl_in_ohio
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 10:53amso, a soldier can be gay, but can’t engage in sodomy?
Report Post »how does the First Sergeant enforce that?
Can a gay soldier wear a female soldier’s uniform?
Git-R-Done
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 10:58amThen what’s the point of letting homosexuals serve in the military? Why not just go back to pre-DADT?
Report Post »suffolkva
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:39amExactly my question Carl In Ohio!
If a homosexual can’t engage in sodomy, just what DO they do when they have ‘sex’? With all the BS over homosexuals being normal-folks-next-door types who shouldn’t make you feel uncomfortable if your kids ask what those men are doing when they see them in a restaurant billing and cooing with each other like a normal man and woman might do….. with all this BS that pretends that they can have normal families and are merely choosing an alternative lifestyle which is equal and as legitimate as normal heterosexual existence… with all this…. how many people actually stop and really dwell on what it is these people do? It is fundamentally dirty. This is why it causes diseases such as hepatitis and AIDS. Think of what goes where and when and in what order.
This is not normal behavior and it has been banned in the military for good reason, and so it should remain!
Report Post »Falindraun
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:51ammales and females wear the same uniform there is no difference, except Army Service Uniform (formal suit and tie style uniform).
Article 125 is usually enforced when a soldier goes to the hospital with rectal or anal damage or is caught in the act.
Report Post »SirBeavis
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:30pmUCMJ (uniform code of military justice) articles have “elements of proof.“ All of the ”elements” must be present and provable to charge someone with whichever specific crime. Article 125/Sodomy has 3 “elements of proof.” which are:
(1) That the accused engaged in unnatural carnal copulation with a certain other person or with an animal. (Note: Add either or both of the following elements, if applicable)
(2) That the act was done with a child under the age of 16.
(3) That the act was done by force and without the consent of the other person.
So basically, if it’s not sex with an animal, it applies to sodomy with a minor and or non consensual contact.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:59pmI heard an doctor with a radio show exclaim if you really can disinfect a needle injection site with alcohol swabs or with other treatments because of all the nooks & crannies that skin has.
So I wonder if homosexuals can really keep their stuff clean?
Heteros are just as dumb if they do the same thing.
Can you really get it clean of microbes?
http://www.springerlink.com/content/f07k66j6×27g4645/
http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?12983-Subq-Injections-amp-Alcohol-Swabbing
http://journals.lww.com/op-rs/Abstract/2009/05000/Botulinum_Toxin_Type_A_Injection_Without_Isopropyl.3.aspx
Report Post »Bronco II
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 10:39amLike I said GOD SAID I HAVE FORETOLD YOU ALL THINGS. HAVE YOU READ IT.Remember what he did to SODOM he will do it again we are at that door am I afraid NO he isn‘t made at me it’s his enemies and his childrens enemies that need to be afraid.It still may not be in my life time but those birth pangs he told us about are getting CLOSER AND STRONGER those who have spiritual eyes and ears know it and I look forward to the LORDS DAY.WOE to those on earth that cup of WRATH is going to poured out.See GODS WORD you can count on it HE IS THE SAME YESTERDAY,TODAY AND FOREVER he doesn‘t flip flop and he definetly isn’t POLITICALLY CORRECT he does what he says SHALL BE no IFS AND OR BUTS.As he has said over and over SO IT IS WRITTEN SO IT SHALL BE.
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 10:37amPeople for the Ethical Treatment of Animals subsequently criticized Carney for treating the issue ”flippantly” and also sent a letter to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, urging the ban be reinstated.
Really? PETA? Oh, yeah … Islam requires that the animal be killed after MoHAMad has sex with it.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 10:35amIsn’t it wonderful that our federal government sees that our military teaches their recruits what they had not learned at home….
Report Post »barber2
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 10:20amHello congress and Mr. President : and for this you are being paid by the taxpayers ? Talk about abuse of office….
Report Post »Airdoc
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 9:55amObama just signed an executive order this week amending sections III and IV of the UCMJ. Section III refers to apprehension and IV refers to disposition of charges. The amendments are NOT available in the Federal Registry (which is updated daily). Could this have anything to do with the apprehension of U.S. citizens?
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 9:21amin that case we just have to burn the books.
Hosannah!
Report Post »CANADAUSAPATRIOT
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 8:21amJohn McCain and others didn’t know this had been repealed? Are any of them reading anything they are voting on?
@Jaylew; The prohibition is required to stop the muslims from engaging in the practise. The koran has a whole section dealing with the protocols of sexual intercourse with animals.
Off topic; Why hasn’t the Blaze posted anything on the detention bill?
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 8:39amSuspension of Habeas Corpus and Authorization of a Posse Comitatus… pops up now, and then, off topic! We know that they are granting Tyranical Tools to a Dicatator… but these are the Idiots who we elected and who are still in Office. We are caught between a Rock & a Hard Place, without Recourse!
Report Post »navypop
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:19amwe pay our law makers money for this kind of crap !!??? where are the MEN in our government ?
Report Post »i never needed to be told it was wrong to have sex with an animal.
BSdetector
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:26amI would be more worried that someone(who somebody elected) thought that it was inappropriate to ban sex with animals and actually had the ban repealed…
Report Post »Grace1798
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:06amWhat I mean by that is that if we have to make laws to keep the freaks from sexually abusing other young men, we don’t want our grands in there either! We will do whatever we can to keep them away from these kind of immoral freaks.
Report Post »Grace1798
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:05amBecause of this, we will encourage our grandsons to NEVER go into service. Thank the corrupt for this!
Report Post »jaylew
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:56amGosh you mean I spent 4 years in the United States Army in the early 70′s and never knew there was a ban on having sex with animals? I must be a complete dolt. I guess it was because I never even contemplated having sex with an animal….and so I ask you all to re-read the last paragraph in this article and allow me to ask a question. Did that PETA woman actually heave a sigh of assured relief because having sex with another “species” is now continued inappropriate? Where do these people come from? Why would we even have to be discussing or negotiating this sort of thing? You know….the most conservative among us were perfectly correct regarding same sex marriage….the ink on most of that legislative crap has not even dried and here we are discussing barnyard antics and fun on the farm….just exactly what conservatives said would happen. What’s next? Infants? Ummmmm….the last time I checked….dog kennels smell like poop and pee…cat boxes smell like poop and pee…barns smell like poop and pee…and I can’t even imagine what those shiny orange butt things on baboons or mandrills smell like….so that means animals tend to stink “down there” Who among us would even think about going there and getting busy in any way with an animal? Are there really creeps that have sex with animals…creatures that cannot consent to anything? That is almost worse than rape..and it’s surely just as totally creepy and nasty. Humans are vile sometimes.
Report Post »the hawk
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:49amthats Good cause a soulder sodoimsing a Beast on the batt , well hell anywhere would be distracting !
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:48amWhat a perfect example of why religion is dangerous.
Report Post »BSdetector
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:42amReligion is dangerous because Harry Reid wants the army to have sex with animals?
Report Post »Seems like you’re a fine example of why Public Education is dangerous…
Tankertony
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:37amBut why? (stomping feet). Didn’t Commander obama say its ok now to hump that camels back, or my foxhole buddy joe? Doesn’t Commander obama want us to become a more tolerant, diverse bunch of battler’s? Can’t we be fair and open, I mean commander obama knows better, he fought in the streets of chicago didn’t he? (stomping feet)
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:34am” . . . the Department of Defense has given its assurance that anyone committing a sexually abusive act with a member of another species will be prosecuted,” PETA spokewoman Colleen O’Brien said.
Report Post »But, of course, sexually abusive acts with a human being are fine as far as the Democrats are concerned.
hidden_lion
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 9:23amDemocrats are another species…so don’t sleep with them
Report Post »spfoam1
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 1:26amSo, the commander in chief is prohibited from having sex with his wife until 2012. Sexually abusive act? I this case, I am not sure which one is the victim.
Report Post »AzCowboy
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:52amNo, I can‘t type what I’m thinking. LOL LOL
Report Post »jaylew
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:05amNow watch the trolls come out of the woodwork……I can hear the little pitter patter of their claws on the linoleum even as I type this….let‘s see first you’ll be called a racist…then you’ll be called a hater….and of course a hick or some other ad hominum verbiage ……simply because of a joke…..as if no mother-in-law was called a beast by a liberal spouse. So get ready SPF0AM1…I can hear the libs keyboards a clicking…..
Report Post »spfoam1
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 9:22am@ JAYLEW….You are right. The hordes of Weiner groupies and Media Matters dung beetles are sure to attack. I am always happiest when I know I have upset them.
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