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Soldier Accused in Afghan Killing Rampage Saw Friend’s Leg Blown Off the Day Before

SEATTLE (AP) — The U.S. soldier accused of slaughtering 16 Afghan villagers last weekend saw his friend’s leg blown off the day before the rampage, his lawyer said Thursday.

Seattle attorney John Henry Browne said Thursday night that his client’s family provided him with details, which have not been independently verified. The injured man was another U.S. soldier, Browne said.

“His leg was blown off, and my client was standing next to him,” he said.

“We have been informed that at this small base that he was at, somebody was gravely injured the day before the alleged incident — gravely injured, and that affected all of the soldiers,” he said.

It isn’t clear whether the incident might have helped prompt the horrific middle-of-the-night attack on civilians in two villages last Sunday.

The soldier had been injured twice during his three previous deployments to Iraq, and he was loath to go to Afghanistan to begin with, Browne said.

Browne declined to release his client’s name, citing concerns for the soldier’s family, which is under protection on Joint Base Lewis-McChord, near Tacoma. But he said the soldier has two young children, ages 3 and 4.

The soldier, a 38-year-old father of two who is originally from the Midwest, deployed last December with the 3rd Stryker Brigade, and on Feb. 1 was attached to a “village stability operation.” Browne described him as highly decorated and said he had once been nominated for a Bronze Star, which he did not receive.

But he did say that the soldier and his family thought he was done fighting. During tours in Iraq, the soldier suffered a concussive head injury in a car accident caused by a roadside bomb, Browne said, and he suffered a battle-related injury that resulted in surgery to remove part of his foot.

He was screened by health officials after the head injury before he redeployed, Browne said. He did not know if his client had been suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, but said it could be an issue at trial if experts believe it’s relevant.

He and the rest of his brigade had initially been told they wouldn’t have to go to Afghanistan, Browne said.

Browne and his co-counsel, Emma Scanlan, said they had met with the soldier’s wife and other family members, and Browne said he spoke briefly by phone with the soldier, whom he described as stunned and distant.

His family was “totally shocked,” he said. “He’s never said anything antagonistic about Muslims. He’s in general very mild-mannered.”

Browne said he knew little of the facts of the shooting, but disputed reports that a combination of alcohol, stress and domestic issues caused him to snap. He said the family said they were unaware of any drinking problem, and described the couple’s marriage as “fabulous.”

The soldier is accused of going on a shooting rampage in villages near his base in southern Afghanistan early Sunday, killing nine children and seven other civilians and then burning some of their bodies. The shooting, which followed a controversial Quran-burning incident involving U.S. soldiers, has outraged Afghan officials.

The suspect was flown out of Afghanistan on Wednesday evening to what officials describe as a pretrial confinement facility in Kuwait. Officials have anonymously described him as a father of two who has been in the military for 11 years. He has served three tours in Iraq and began his first deployment to Afghanistan in December.

The soldier asked to be represented by Browne, a well-known Seattle defense attorney, when he was taken into custody, the lawyer said.

Browne said he’s spoken with the soldier, but did not discuss the substance of the allegations. He said the soldier had no prior events in his Army dossier indicating misbehavior.

Browne once defended serial killer Ted Bundy and recently represented Colton Harris-Moore, a youthful thief known as the “Barefoot Bandit.”

Browne said he has only handled three or four military cases before. The soldier will also have at least one military lawyer.

Military lawyers say once attorneys involved in the initial investigation of an alleged crime involving a service member have what they believe to be a solid understanding of what happened and are satisfied with the evidence collected, they draft charges and present them to a commander.

That person then makes a judgment on whether there is probable cause to believe that an offense was committed and that the accused committed it.

That commander then “prefers” the charges to a convening authority, who typically is the commander of the brigade to which the accused is assigned but could be of higher rank.

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Associated Press writer Robert Burns contributed from Washington.

Gene Johnson can be reached at https://twitter.com/GeneAPseattle

Comments (85)

  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 8:01am

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    Pin a Medal on him and send him home, he did no wrong……………

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  • bpodlesnik
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:22am

    No excuse. Someone who can all of a sudden snap, and go on a killing spree should have never been allowed to be in the position he was in. Do you think soldiers in Vietnam, Korean war, or either of the World Wars didn’t see someones leg blown off or worse? This guy needs to be dealt with the most severe way. In my opinion, the death penalty.

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    • Stuck_in_CA
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:57am

      It’s no wonder, after FOUR deployments, these guys sometimes “go off.”
      Thanks to GWB, these two protracted wars, have caused such horrific damage and needless suffering for so many… The military industrial complex Ike warned about, thanks W too.

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    • SpankDaMonkey
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 8:03am

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      They just need to Pin a Medal on the guy and send him home………………

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    • USPATRIOT101
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 8:23am

      “No excuse”?!?!?! I don’t think many on this site are qualified to judge this man.

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    • Maibus
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 8:25am

      Yes people do go off the deep end in war to include WWII, Vietnam, Iraq, and so on. I mean do people seriously think war is nice…that rape, murder, and death are not comon place. You get tired. Your friends die, your family dies, you sit there wondering what “allies” are going to put a round in the back of your head, which road is going to blow up, who is your friend really? Don‘t give me crap that he shouldn’t be put in that position when he was deployed to that position. Its not your place. We do what we do because no one eles will.

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    • StonyBurk
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 8:48am

      The combined effect of Multiple Tours, (you mention Vietnam and Korea. It seems there was an escalation in multiple tours from Korea to Vietnam-to what has been seen in Iraq and Afghanistan. And the down time between hardship tours seems to have diminished.) The maths suggests the combined effect of multiple tours, of traumatic brain injury, typical broken promises by Military leadership, add in the culture shock of being deployed to a nation where one is obligated to submit to a system that has NEVER been compatible with our own Western Civilization( when I was on active duty when we deployed -we were subject to the customs and laws of the host Country -BUT we had Military leadership that generally defended the troops -and our American cultural identity was kept intact) IT seems in both Iraq and Afghanistan our troops have been subjected to Islam in ways exceed anything seen in Vietnam–or Korea– or in Europe WWI and II. And have not been defended as Americans ought be.) In an of themselves-isolated the multiple trauma suffered by this Sgt. might be dismissed. But ONE ought Not ignore the role of Military Medicine and those who screened and evaluated this Sgt. after Traumatic head injury –and prior to deployment to Afghanistan. ONE errs to suggest he alone is the problem. BUT the Military has no reason to change/adapt. A defective soldier
      like any worn out piece of Military ordinance can be DXed and there are always new boots and BDU,and plenty of weapons.

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    • Shasta
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 8:48am

      Thank you Maibus for your response. I agree with USPatriot101 that most of us are not in a position to judge, but moreover, I agree with you regarding the the ravages of war and it’s affect on men and women. Spanky on the other hand is a complet A$$, children were killed creep.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 8:57am

      No excuse,
      you have no idea what this man went through,couple that with a severe head injury and who know what went on in his head. And as for blaming W, 99% OF CONGRESS voted to go into Afganistan after 9/11. AND Remember it was Obama that up the action in Afganistan HE RAN ON THAT PLATFORM IN 2008. bLAME HIM AND THE ******** THAT PUT HIM IN OFFICE

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    • little big man
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 9:27am

      well not saying this was right, but if you’re going to do something like this he should have taken hand grenade along and instead of killing 16 should have had a higher body count like 160.

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    • SpankDaMonkey
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 9:32am

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      SHASTA said; Spanky on the other hand is a complet A$$, children were killed creep.

      They are future Terrorist’s and need to be killed…..Shame the obvious is lost on some people…..

      It’s either Them or US. So who’s side are you on?……I Pick Us……..

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    • Seede
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 9:37am

      Yes – And I saw a lot of guys lose it. Some never recovered and some did. You never know what is in the head of another guy. Battle fatigue is a strange happening and nothing to make lite of.

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 9:50am

      he should be sent to gitmo to be around muslims and afghans.he’s angry the iraqis threw us out .now he’s gonna whine about ptsd-sure- anger that he didn’t have a green light to commit genocide-that’s what prsd-is all about.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 10:06am

      Maybe they would let you take his place BPODLESNIK

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    • klg1956
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 10:19am

      I say we give it the same term as they gave Nidal Hasan, the Islamic Ft. Hood murderer of our military men (did Karzai or Iraq apologize for those murders? NO)…..they ruled Nidal Hasan’s murders “a work related violence”…akin to a disgruntled postal worker….he‘s still hasn’t been brought to trial and he’s changed lawyers again…..we need to give the same treatment to “our” soldier; the best medical care for his brain traumas and the best psychiatric care (hopefully not an Islamic psychiatrist) and the best defense attorney money can buy, just like we did for Nidal Hasan…don’t you think? Just to be fair that is! I say we take our sweet time with this young man and give him every benefit we’ve given Nidal….I can‘t remember any Taliban or al Qaeda terrorist being brought to justice for killing our own over in Afghanistan or even one apology from Karzi for some thousands of our soldier’s deaths, can you? Yet they got an apology from our President. It’s crap, and you smell like it! You make me sick! I’d like to deploy your ass!

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 10:42am

      The man was over there fighting for my country. I’m not going to bash him when I have no idea what 10 years of war does to a man. We’ve never had a 10 year long war before so, the military doesn’t even know what to expect. This was a bad thing, bad things happen in war. My heart aches for that Sgt. and his family. Quit bashing him and pray for the man, he was over there for you.

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    • warrior21
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 11:19am

      What happened to this guy, and why he deliberately killed 16 people I have no idea. I have served in two wars, Korea and Vietnam. Two tours in Korea 1950 and 1952, and two tours in Vietnam 1966 and 1969. In Korea I served with the 24th and 7th Infantry Divisions. In Vietnam the 5th Special Forces Group. I figure I am qualified to have an opinion on this incident. First I am completely confused on the stories the media is reporting. I can’t understand how he got out of his compound alone in the earlier hours of the morning. Secondly, it has been reported that his buddy had his leg blown of in the compound from an explosive device. How did an explosive device get inside the base? These bases are under extremely tight security? If he was standing next to his buddy when the device went off why wasn’t he also wounded? In my humble opinion there is more to this story than we are being told and I for one will wait until the facts come out before making a judgment.

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 11:35am

      @Gonzo

      Considering you praised the soldiers who peed on the dead bodies, I’m not surprised you would defend and pray for a cold blooded killer.

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    • Onowicit
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 12:08pm

      @SpankDaMonkey 100% right. We should make this guy a general. Granted he went “ballistic” but what ever happened to shock and awe. This so call WAR has gone on long enough. Sounds like this guy just wanted to finish it himself. When he is in prison after serving his country, we need to make sure that he wants for nothing while in.

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    • Disabledvet
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 12:13pm

      Got to disagree with you, if you have not lived it, you should not pass judgement. I lived it and watched friends die, Send him home and set him free, incase you forget it was locals that hid Osama Bin Laden, Not saying the that these were guilty of the same type of stuff, and in all the other wars you listed there were many times people just snapped and killed others, it is called a war. I am sorry for the kids but what the heck they train the little ones to hate americans and kill us solets give them a reason. The way you talk it sounds okay when they kill our people and nothing is done but our man must be punished.

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    • Huguenot1732
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 12:58pm

      How many tours in Iraq and Afghanistan have you done? The cost savings of a smaller military is to blame. Multiple tours take a toll on a person. There are soldier suicides, suicide by cop, and unfortunately soldiers who kill others happening all too often. You can’t judge this war by others, in WWII a soldier served years overseas, but did not come home and go back repeatedly, that takes an emotional toll you can’t understand. Twelve years of war, and since 9/11 the burden has been carried by 0.45% of the US population. I can’t dismiss his actions, but then I’m not going to judge him either.

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    • jeffile
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 1:04pm

      To Warrior`21
      You state you went on multiple tours in Korea and Vietnam and it didn’t affect you. Unfortunately not everyone is as mentally strong and secure or possibly just indifferent to the suffering of others. Perhaps you didn’t experience a serious head injury. Excuse me but numerous people went to Vietnam and returned with lifelong PTSD causing them to be completely disabled. And you asked how did an explosive device get on the base? I agree you have many valid questions but it was hardly unexpected when an explosive device went off on a military base in Vietnam. I should know as a spent 58 months in Vietnam.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 1:31pm

      Audy Murphy… did the same… and received a Promotion and Congressional Medal of Honor!

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    • bpodlesnik
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 4:15pm

      Every generation of my family has served in the military. My brother is currently in Afghanistan. What I said has nothing to do with not respecting him for fighting for this country. The guy left his base and murdered 16 innocent people. Something like 9 of them were children. Children! If it was the Afghanistan army in our country and one of their soldiers did the same thing, every single one of you would be calling for his death.

      You want to defend what he did, fine, that’s your choice, but I think the military should not go lightly on his punishment.

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  • carbonated
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 6:58am

    The purpose of the military is to go in and destroy the enemy. We can do that quickly. The military should not be used to engage in a nation-building experiment. Due to the ridiculous length of this engagement we have Americans who’ve spent their entire adult lives in combat. Its all they know. I’m afraid that even if they survive combat, we will have destroyed the lives of many of these Americans. We‘ll never ’restore’ peace to that region – they’ve never had it – and its not our job to be the world police.

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    • blanco5
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 7:11am

      The troops are never allowed to do their job fully. The gov ties their hands behind their backs. Otherwise, they could finish the job and get out quickly.

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  • BuggiOlleo
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 6:55am

    Guilty until proven innocent? Innocent until proven guilty..in the military, a general rule is definitely the Guilty first.always has been..this fella must prove that he is innocent..none of us will know what happens until it happens..which is also the military prerogative; however, due to the conditions of our duly empowered elected Oduma(u=oo) he will TRY to ensure that everything becomes inverted, confusing, and dangerous…including and not limited to the military–especially!
    Do I feel for this guy; well, yes. Anytime politics gets in the middle of a military operation–soldiers become pawns not the tip of the sword. What would you do surrounded by an angry mob of koran desecraters..this is purely an infidel issue..It is long time over due…we leave as soon as humanly possible…bible…??? Why does my spell check activate if I do not capitalize koran?! try bible—nyet?! Who wrote this speell czech? bunch o freakin Commi…okay, so its a conspiracy–what isn’t nowadays!

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  • speedyjerry
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 6:21am

    Four years ago the nightly news was showing our troops building schools, fixing roads, improving hospitals, training security forces and teaching them how to irrigate land to grow crops other than poppys.

    Then Obama troop surged them?
    No one questioned it?

    Pres. Bush knew a troop surge would never work for exactly the reasons that has caused us to loose that war after we had already won it.

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  • DividedWeFail
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 6:18am

    What is sad is this enlisted grunt is going to be tried by several officers (and maybe few enlisted) who probably never saw UP CLOSE SUSTAINED combat in their life but are desk jockeys who stuck their big toe on a combat zone just long enough to get the tax break (is income still tax free in a combat zone?). I know I cut many orders for moron officers at the end of the year who found excuses to go to a combat zone area and stayed just long enough to qualify for an entire years tax break on their income tax. To prevent this misuse – the time over there was extended to qualify but I am sure that cheezy low-life officers still finagle a way to get over there and stay in the safest area until they qualify for that tax break. Whoever puts the military on a pedestal needs to know they are people just like anyone else and they lie cheat and scheme and scam just like everyone else and the more rank they have- the more they can get away with it.

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  • ThePostman
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 6:16am

    The United State Government – turning law-abiding clean-cut fine young men into murderers since the sixties.

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    • ThePostman
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 6:17am

      Anyone who knows directly anyone who has served over there knows that our entire mission is totally whacked, destined to failure. We will leave, and when we do, the Taliban will declare victory. Until then, we will fight as an occupying invasion. Foreigners in a foreign land.

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    • USPATRIOT101
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 8:26am

      thepostman This is our modern day Vietnam. Failed leadership under barack has cost way too many American lives. bring’em home so we can prepare for when the terrorist start the next “conflict”.

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    • Shasta
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 10:09am

      USPATRIOT101

      This is our modern day Carter administration. Failed leadership under barack has cost way too much in lives, treasure, morals and national conscience.

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  • jujubeebee
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 5:53am

    The media can spin this any way they want to but any person with common sense can see what happened here. This man snapped. I feel bad for him and his family.
    If the reaction there is derogatory and those people have no insight into this other than anger, it is time to bring them all home and quit this nonsense.

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    • DividedWeFail
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 6:09am

      If this soldier is a white male Christian – Obama will have him chucked into prison for life IF he is spared the death penalty.

      If this soldier is a black male Christian – Obama will find some way to help him out.

      Is this soldier was a white or black Muslim soldier killing American Christian soldiers – Obama would hire him a a czar or flunky and Holder would let him go saying not enough evidence.

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  • RougeFastFingers
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 4:56am

    You can’t keep sending people back to these hellholes over and over again without some of them snapping.

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  • sawbuck
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 4:54am

    Yep.. Bad Things happen in time of war…!
    And when people are pushed to the brink ,that’s when it really starts getting ugly.
    It goes all the way to the top and Oblamer owns it.
    He’s been salivated for something like this to happen and you watch how he uses this
    to further his agenda.
    All this can be placed at the feet of the PC n Chief.
    Lib Pukes need-not- reply…!

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    • Kisses6350
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 6:43am

      Bush sent them over, under false pretense I might add, Obama is bringing them back…………****Smirks****

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  • Ron_WA
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 4:46am

    I’m a vet of 3 combat tours over there & suffer from PTSD as well as self-medicating substance abuse & understand that someone can snap (I was waaaayyy wrong at one point) but it is still not an excuse for massacring women & children.

    If guilty he needs to be held accountable, given the death penalty but possibly stayed due to extreme duress.

    And yes his chain of command & the docs screwed up sending him back too soon or even at all – they should share some of the blame …

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  • Apple Bite
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 4:25am

    Can’t blame Republicans for the rules of engagement. You have to go back to the 60′s and the Vietnam War to know why our military is basically an arm of the U.N. right now…courtesy of the Liberals that touted “Peace, not War”.

    The irony is that everything that‘s been happening over the last decade is nearly identical to the 60’s…

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  • MatrixRedPill
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 4:22am

    Soros & friends want these wars going on.

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  • disgustedAmerican
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 4:11am

    While I don’t condone any action like this, there is a flip side to the coin. The terrorists have been murdering not only our soldiers but their own civilians with IED’s and body bombs for a long time. That is enough to weigh on anyone’s mind to make them want to react. Our rules of engagement make it almost impossible to defend against these miscreants that have only the drive to kill. We need to revise how we deal with this threat so we can help eliminate our cut down the collateral damage. In a combat zone, political correctness is not viable, it is detrimental to the cause…

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  • SageInWaiting
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 3:56am

    I don’t condone what this soldier did. My son was a casualty of a tour in Iraq; his heart was torn out by an unfaithful wife. I suspected that there was an event like this that set him off. The rules of engagement and the double standards they must endure push our fighters to the mental brink. I pray for him and his family. This military has had a history lately of inquisitions rather than fair trials; our service men have become expendable in battle and to political expediency. Our officers are murdered by their Afghan “allies” while our administration grovels and destroys the careers of innocent servicemen for taking out the trash. How much are our young people expected to endure? So, just in case, we NOW disarm our Marines when the SOD appears on base… WHAT A SLAP IN THE FACE! I guess Chicago gun regs are now extended to our troops in Afghanistan.

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    • Shasta
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 10:18am

      Excellent post. And if this soldier snapped, and I firmly believe he did, I hope he gets the help and peace he needs.

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  • girlnurse
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 3:18am

    I think it is a tragedy what he did. I can’t even imagine how I would hate Americans if one came in and shot and killed my entire family!!!! But, I blame the military industrial complex, our politicians, the whimpy liberal political generals, the UN., and Oblama!!! On this point Ron Paul is right: We need to get out of ALL these endless wars! If we are truly in a war-end it and get out! If we are nation building-get out! Bring our military home, work on America, bring our jobs back, get rid of the unions…lets get back to the business of being A free America again! For the first time in my adult life, I am NOT proud of my country!

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 4:26am

      “For the first time in my adult life, I am NOT proud of my country!” I am not proud of our government. We failed by letting the 20-30% Lib base have way to much power over us. In your wildest dreams could you picture Obama saying “Ask not what your country can do for you_ ask what you can do for your country” That is the job for the rich. Free lunch for the rest. Ron Paul is a NeoLib that panders to kooks….http://www.therightscoop.com/jeffrey-lord-on-mark-levin-show-ron-paul-is-a-neo-liberal-not-a-conservative/

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 6:10am

      REPUBLICORP. Yep you nailed her.. this is the Ron Paul left.. not much different than the Obama and Michelle left when it comes to the anti-war/ anti-Military/ anti-American/ Code-Pink style talking points. In great numbers here on The Blaze, they will say they were in the Military and are Ron Paul’s expert Military strategists, should be listened to… and write from experience… they were here… they were there…

      I say BS. Most of Ron Paul’s disgruntled Vets for peace in the world and prosperity here at home crowd are disgruntled Adam Kokesh type Vets who continue to show their poser arses time and time again. They are as transparent as Obama’s teleprompter…

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    • THXll38
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 8:12am

      Repub and Paul Loser -

      Get your collective neocon heads out of your war mongering asses. True constitutional conservatives and true little r republicans do not support wars that are intended to nation build and spread the US version of democracy. War is about kicking ass and taking names and then leaving. There is no reason for ground troops in the 21st century. If you need ground troops they should only be used to take care of all the living humans that are alive after the air strikes. Now do I sound like a neolib to you? I don’t think so.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 8:39am

      THX. Yes… actually you write just like a liberal/neo-lib with your “neo-con/war-mongering” John Kerry Presidential run Dem talking points. Ron Paul is a non-interventionalist… meaning doing nothing, absolutely nothing. To think Ron Paul would go anywhere in the world to fight any righteous battle in America’s interest or her allies… to kick @ass… take names as you put it… is blustery BS from the fox hole of cowardly pacifists handbook.

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    • ianmc002
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 9:28am

      TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12

      What is it about the ‘uneducated’ speaking the loudest? Let me help you.
      Define “non-interventionalist”;

      Non-Interventionist means resorting to the use of force LAST…NOT FIRST. We are not afraid to use force…just choose to use it LAST, as opposed to you NeoCons using it FIRST. Diplomacy first…whats wrong with trying to talk ‘talk’ things out first? When did we get to be so dumbed down Time? Got it? Yeah I doubt it.

      You read that Glenn?

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    • ianmc002
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 9:36am

      TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12

      BTW Time is Iran a threat to the US? Yes. Is Iran a credible/legitimate threat to the US?…NO!!!

      What are you NeoCons so scared of? The ‘possibility’ of Iran getting a nuke? lol Yeah lets spend billions or trillions of dollars preventing them from getting one since they are SURROUNDED by them.

      Read that Glenn?

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 10:11am

      IAN. “You read that Glenn?” I’ll wait for Glenn to get to you first, then I’ll follow up.

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    • ianmc002
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 10:15am

      TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12

      lol you make me laugh.

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  • GoodFellas
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 3:11am

    My heart goes out to the 16 innocent men women and children this demented man killed, hopefully he gets what he deserves.

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  • MammalOne
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 3:04am

    We now have confirmed reports that he was in an active war zone.

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  • walkandtalk
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 3:02am

    This is a tragedy. I am wondering if this soldier received another brain injury when his friend sustained the horrific injury the day before. Being a decorated soldier and described as serving for 11 years the action that took place does not match the character of a person who has served his country in military service. This soldier means help something just doesn’t fit.

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  • cuinsong
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 2:28am

    I feel sorry because of the reported health issue under which this soldier was expected to function seems to be a mistake. Either the doctors or commanders may have made a bad decision about his readiness for combat and that may be why this happened!
    Now it would seem that because of this one act every thing will be completely undone!
    All the good will and US sacrifices over the last 10 + yrs. may be for nothing!
    The way these people see the world is thru a different prism.
    Even though they them selves have killed and continue to kill innocent women & children in this stupid war they see it as worse then what they do.
    I think that we just need to bring our troops home and let them determine their own fate.
    If they decide to try another attack on America we should just bomb the crap out of them.
    I wrote this song to the Muslim people about their culture and teaching’s called “That’s Not Right” http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_10789999
    The Muslims in this country keep pushing for acceptance of their religion of (so called) piece but turn a blind eye to the Jihad atrocities committed in the name of their god.
    Such hypocrisy must be called out and that is why I wrote the song.

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  • Cooperm707
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 2:27am

    He shouldn’t have been sent out again, there’s no reason for it. I bet the military regrets sending him to Afghan.

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  • TheObamanation
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 2:26am

    This poor guy isn’t a criminal … he’s clearly suffering from a mental breakdown. He needs mental care and rest from everything he’s been through. His family is suffering as well. Time to bring him home and give him the help he needs.

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    • Liberal_Teacher
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 3:31am

      He killed 9 children. If you think that isn’t criminal, you’re the one that needs help.

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    • burnteye86
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 4:03am

      how many children have Muslims killed? Say, for instance, in Israel? On school buses. Or what about the Fogel family?

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 4:42am

      @burnteye86

      So, according to you, it is OK that he killed all these children because our enemies do it? Aren’t they the ones you label as evil because they does things EXACTLY LIKE THIS?

      If the US is supposed to be the ones standing up for humanity and setting an example for the world to follow, things like this cannot be condoned.

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    • THXll38
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 8:21am

      You sound like a modern day liberal. I then assume you would say the same to any human that had a traumatic life and went out on a killing spree. Don’t give this guy a free pass because he was a solider or use irrational thought to protect him.

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    • TSUNAMI-22
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 2:20pm

      @ Liberal_Teacher

      He killed 9 children. If you think that isn’t criminal, you’re the one that needs help.
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Now you understand how conservatives feel about abortion.

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  • petitFleur
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 2:12am

    what Americans AMERICANS is that we struggle to understand how/why one of us could commit such a horrendous act of violence. this is truly horrible & devastating

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  • abbygirl1994
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 2:12am

    Seeing your friends leg blown off is no reason to kill 16 people.. but justow much can our serviceman take with these senseless wars.. Wars that they are very capable of finishing quickly, not decades! Lord help them all!

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    • TSUNAMI-22
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 2:17am

      Walking a few miles in his shoes might yield a different insight as to what necessitates “reason”.

      The whole thing is unfortunate – especially for the children that were lost.

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    • npbreakthrough
      Posted on March 16, 2012 at 2:56am

      “reason” usually has nothing with decisions made under this kind of direst,..and “reason” has even less to do with war.

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  • welovetheUSA
    Posted on March 16, 2012 at 1:54am

    This solider was doing 4 tours…..he did not want to do this last tour…..soliders in past wars only did one tour and could sign up for another…..but never 4 tours…..this was a stressed broken down solider who was under Obamas…don’t shoot unless you have to ,,disgusting that this war is some how more imporant to some for reasons unknown to the many who want to get our boys out of this God forsaken country.

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