Faith

Some Soldiers Up in Arms After Officials Remove Cross From U.S. Military Chapel in Afghanistan

Army Removes Cross From Camp Marmal Chapel in Afghanistan

Image Credit: Politico

Some U.S. servicemen are up in arms after a large cross was removed from outside a chapel on a military base in northern Afghanistan. The base, called Camp Marmal, is German and hosts NATO forces. The chapel in question is an interfaith house of worship that is overseen by the U.S. Army.

Soldiers say that they felt comfort as a result of having the cross visible from the outside of the chapel. In an e-mail to Politico, one serviceman said, “Sometimes the Church and the ability to openly express religious views ultimately gets people through the deployments over here.”

According to this particular soldier, when he asked a chaplain what had happened to the cross, he was told that it needed to be taken down. The faith leader, however, didn’t share any additional information on the matter.

“We are here away from our families, and the chapel is the one place that feels like home,” added another service member. “With the cross on the outside, it is a constant reminder for all of us that Jesus is here for us.”

Army Removes Cross From Camp Marmal Chapel in Afghanistan

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“Not having it there is really upsetting,” a serviceman explained. “I walk by the chapel daily on the way to chow and the gym, and seeing the cross is a daily reminder of my faith and what Jesus accomplished for me. It is daily inspiration and motivation for me to acknowledge my faith and stay on the right path.”

Commander William Speaks, a spokesperson for the Pentagon, confirmed that the cross has been removed, telling Politico that taking it down was a necessity. “The removal was, in fact, in accordance with Army regulations,” he said.

Apparently, the Army chaplain manual prohibits the display of religious symbols. Here’s a portion of the manual that explains these regulations:

Army Removes Cross From Camp Marmal Chapel in Afghanistan

Service members who are discontented with the decision believe that it is an attack on their faith. “I really don’t understand why Christians are always attacked. If it was a crescent moon on top of a mosque, it would never be taken down,” one said.

On a blog owned by a man who claims to currently be serving on the base, the following it written:

What’s next? Are they going to start calling the Chapel the “Faith Center”? Are they going to take “God” out of the very oath we take when we enlist in the United States Military? Are they going to remove our religion on our ID tags? Are they going to allow us to wear a cross while in uniform? Are military personnel going to be allowed to bow their heads and pray before each meal? Are we going to go through and edit all of the quotes from our founding fathers so that they are politically correct and neutral in regards to religion and faith? Are we going to ban the  picture of George Washington praying at Valley Forge?!

The incident has these soldiers wondering where the line on religious freedom and expression will inevitably be drawn.

(H/T: Politico)

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  • snooop1e
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:39pm

    Chalk another one up for the pro Muslim, anti-Christian, Politically Correct, Please Like Us Obama administration.

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    • TDOM
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:49pm

      chock up one for satan – pure Evil

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    • Kristin R Smith
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 5:04pm

      U R correct, “except” it makes our guys a target with a cross that size shrink it to a 6“ x12” and we know and it is as it should be. As Christians sometimes we tend to stomp rather than love people into the faith. Remember we are now under Grace, not the law. ( “the letter of the law kills”) Grace is love. Think maybe they say one thing trying to be all PC and not offend others, but it could protect our people. (maybe)

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    • SLAPTHELEFT
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 5:10pm

      Dear U.S. Service men and women,

      No action, law, or infringement on your faith can ever remove the comfort felt from faith itself. Continue to kneel. Continue to worship. Abide by the current mandate. Be unshakeable in your faith.

      It is an attack nonetheless. It is no different at home. We stand and will continue to stare down evil and expose it for the tyrant it is. The battle that rages against us as Christians and as a people has already been fought and won. Evil is a sore loser that will never win. But it presses on.

      Stay strong in your faith. No man can replace our Lord.
      Happy Thanksgiving to all and God Bless you.

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    • turkey13
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 5:30pm

      This is absurd – what is a chaplin even doing on an army base. Someone should report him to the President. I certenly hope he isn’t being paid with tax dollars and if he is Obama should cut them off.

       
    • Jezcruzen
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 5:36pm

      Kirstan Smith, how about getting a clue, and you can keep your mumbling BS to yourself. Join the military and do a few deployments, then come back and say that crap.

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    • SomeRandomPerson
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 5:40pm

      Nudge Nudge.

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    • Stuck_in_CA
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 5:52pm

      @SLAPTHELEFT Well said. Thanks for your great post.
      Ephesians 6:12.
      But we shall have the victory. Amen!

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    • artistskeptic
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 6:04pm

      So now has even our military been taken over by the progressive, subversive skum, athiests, islamists?

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    • Free2speakRN
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 6:08pm

      SLAPTHELEFT
      Amen.

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    • Mad_as_Hell...
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 6:20pm

      Ahh Yes…Political correctness, that doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of **** by the clean end.

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    • lylejk
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 6:55pm

      I know that BO’s not the anti-christ since I’m still here, but he definitely qualifies as false prophets or satan enabler imo. This blasphemy backing false Christian Muslim lover (if not Muslim himself) needs to be called out for what he is. Perfect I’m not, but I would, first of all, never have stated we are a Muslim nation or allowed gays in the military or do things to the detriment of our chaplains who are serving our country and providing consul to our soldiers in harm’s way. I guarantee you that the 10% or less of soldiers (present and past) who still back BO are either gay or not a believer. Just my opinion from a former soldier who served my country with honor and pride. Sad for us all. BO’s gotta go. :)

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    • Rightsofman
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 8:19pm

      What next ban the Christian Chaplin Corp. entirely? God Bless Amer…..huh sorry no offence meant, just started to slip out.

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    • Faith1029
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 9:21pm

      When I was a little girl, back in the 50′s, my mother told me there would come a day when our Christian freedoms would be taken from us. I remember her telling me someday they would even be taking our Bibles from us. I know now from Scripture this has all be foretold. I think that evil time has arrived. Never thought it would be in my lifetime. Just as a suggestion, I know they have not yet come for our Bibles but I believe that day is soon coming. You can buy wallet size Bibles that you can carry in your purse or put it in your pocket. It has very small print but it is readable. It has both the Old and New Testament. Christianbooks.com has them. This may sound extreme but it is better to be prepared for what may come in our lifetime.

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    • Al J Zira
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 9:43pm

      @Turkey13: he’s there because my son is a christian. If you have a problem with that I’d love to get together and talk about it. And soon.

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    • ghostsouls
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:11am

      Who the hell is running our military a bunch of pansies? They defeated Hitler for God’s sake, and can’t even defeat a few non-christians, even after we save their lives…… sad state of affairs….

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    • Tim Law
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:32am

      Fear not our Blessed young people in our armed services. Fore your, very bodies are a testimony to our LORD JESUS, stand with your feet together and your arms outstretched you form his cross. Every cell in you body is joined to the other with his cross. ( Laminin ) goggle it. They can never remove JESUS or his cross from you brothers and sisters, we are His. May the Good LORD Bless you,watch over you and keep you safe. Thank you for your service, you are in our prayers, and may you all return home safely and soon! Amen!

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    • db321
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 2:54am

      SlaptheLeft – Amen – Preach it Brother! Satan has “Mighty Power” but the Lord has “Almighty Power”

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    • RRFlyer
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 9:46am

      To KRISTIN R SMITH. What size was the cross Jesus was crucified on? It wasn’t 6“ X 12” it was on a hill for the World to see. Why should we do otherwise in proclaiming what He has done for us?

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    • INOGAWD
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:06am

      Muslime in Chief….Just smiling all the way !!!

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 5:28pm

      Obummer dumps on Christians again.

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  • Volsense
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:38pm

    When you have liberals in charge, what else would you expect? DUH!!!

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  • EchoHawk
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:36pm

    Where I inclined to practice Christianity regularly while stationed in Northern Afghanistan I may prefer to hide my light under a bushel as opposed to letting it shine. It does resemble cross-hairs, which is where you want to put it.

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    • chris.duncan
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 6:50am

      isn’t there something in the bible (somewhere) that says pretty specifically -not- to hide your faith…. even in the face of death?

      just a thought…

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    • iwalkalone
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 7:53am

      chris duncan the idiot

      hey why the …….. at the end? trying to impress us? trying to show how smart you are?

      instead of saying its in the bible (somewhere) , why not look it up and make proper citation?
      what a fraud and simpleton you are.

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    • INOGAWD
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:23am

      @ EchoHawk
      I would prefer to let it SHINE, to let these freaks know
      we are there in all our Grace and Glory,
      Happy Thanksgiving Troops, Semper Fi. OORAH !!!

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  • TheCalvinistPastor
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:36pm

    here is the government dishing out more political correctness!

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    • Kristin R Smith
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 5:05pm

      Does look like it.

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 11:00pm

      So what next, our men and women who risk their lives for our country will not have the right to whorship God? That cross was a symbolism of hope, security,strength, and protection.Our military deserves ANYTHING that gives them comfort. Those who are offended need only to look the other way. No one forces them to enter that chapel or believe in God.

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  • certified ethical hacker
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:35pm

    http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/a/gangs.htm

    http://www.militarycorruption.com/

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    • NSDQ
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 10:47pm

      Hmmm wondering if I work with you NRT?

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  • Psychosis
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:35pm

    grrrrrr im soooo tired of this crap

    AND BLAZE ………………….YOU NEED A BETTER SPELL CHECKER

    IT IS “ SOLDIERS” NOT SOLIDERS

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  • 1389AD
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:34pm

    Who came up with those regulations that forbid the display of the Cross?

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    • SpankDaMonkey
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:39pm

      .
      Obama you Silly………

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    • CharlesMartel
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 9:20pm

      Actually, if you read the part of the regulation cited, it is talking about the interior of the Chapel. It basically says that inside the chapel, symbols should not be permanently fixed to facilitate change between services (Protestant to Catholic to Jewish, etc.).

      The cited regulation references another regulation that deals with the chapel buildings themselves. I assume it has similar wording.

      Personally, I have seen many military chapels of all branches of the services that have had steeples (more Masonic than Christian), but none had anything that implied they were exclusively for any faith. That was true even where I had Basic Training and one chapel building was commonly called “the Catholic Chapel” and another was called “the Protestant Chapel” because that made it easier to direct trainees to the place they preferred. They looked identical on the outside. It was almost 40 years ago, so I forget which one had the Jewish services on Saturday.

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  • capecodsully
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:34pm

    The day a liberal family member told me that I should have to hide my cross before going into a public building so as not to offend anyone, I realised how dangerous these commie libs are. I really thought they were just a bunch of fools up to that point, not realising that they were out to destroy everything America stands for.
    The attack of our military is in full swing. When Christians are no longer welcome in the miltary, we are all done, and the commies know it.

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    • harleyman
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 6:46pm

      If standing up for what I believe offends someone then I say “frankly my dear I don’t give a damn”.

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    • Cape_Lookout_RW_Extremist
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 9:15am

      I knew the military was in trouble when they put chaplains in to represent witchcraft.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:28pm

      But yet left wingers can offend others all they want and they don’t have to tone it down.

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  • garbagecanlogic
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:33pm

    Who in the h*ll made this decision? Rev Wright???

    The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
    The U.N. Out Of The U.S.

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  • certified ethical hacker
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:32pm

    Our military is strong, other groups know they can not attack us with a military so they attack us within. They get as many of them here in the states as possible vote them into office and many of them serve in our military so they get a strong voice there to. that is how they change America into what they want it to be. In one of the military times newspapers this week it told of many gang bangers that are now infiltrated into our military. That is where they get their training. Our troops are all going to crap anyway , has anyone noticed the explosion of incidences of insubordination and commanding officers getting relieved?

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  • elkfeva
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:29pm

    Very sad indeed. We need to start pushing back.

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    • elkfeva
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:30pm

      Thank YOU brothas that put everything on hold to serve this country.. we love you!

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    • PASSIONFORCHRIST
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:36pm

      wE’LL HAVE THEM ON OUR SIDE SOON ENOUGH!!!!!! GOD BLESS OUR MILITARY IN JESUS NAME!!!!!!!!!!

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:54pm

      Indeed.

      The problem with Socialists, Communists, Fascists, and Tyrants is that they assume all power resides with the State first, and the State then benevolently grants us our freedom. Conservative thinking is completely foreign to socialists because they believe that they must petition the government for their rights, while conservatives believe that our rights are God-given, and that the State’s job is to safeguard those rights in the individual, not exploit them.

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    • NOBAMA201258
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 5:37pm

      Yeah we take too much crap from the non-believing morons and they wouldn’t dare do this to muslims !

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 6:26pm

      *Correction:

      Conservative thinking is completely foreign to socialists. Socialists believe that they must petition the government for their rights, while conservatives believe that our rights are God-given…

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:25pm

    .
    O Lord in your wisdom and with your good aim, could you please strike those responsible with a small to medium size Lighting Bolt?

    Amen…………..

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    • TheWatchmanSeeth
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:39pm

      Maybe not a lightening bolt, but, maybe if the ground just opened up and swalled those responsible. But good news everyone, my bible says We win in the end!!! and the devil and his boyfriend are already defeated!

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  • vicalo
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:25pm

    Removing the physical Cross does not remove it from our hearts and soul and mind. This assult on the Cross is getting out of control. The devil walks too and fro looking for those he can devour or destroy. But Praise God Jesus has over come the world and we win in the end. God bless the military.

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  • freedom4ever
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:23pm

    it made me cry – this so called leader has torn our country apart and destroyed our faith, nation, and way of life – i this year am not thankful for our president and leaders who sold us down the river. sad day people:(

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    • louise
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 5:36pm

      I cried too. Dear God when military takes away the symbol of their risen Lord…the cross… and then the chaplain does and says nothing.

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    • American Soldier (Separated)
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 7:40pm

      The military has more than just Christians serving it. I am an Agnostic and I served my country proudly. This is not a christian army, it’s the American Army. America is not comprised of nothing but Christian and you need to accept that. If you don’t, you are no better than those that persecuted our ancestors. They escaped those persecutions and created America for what? So that their off springs can turn the table? I’d like to believe our founders had no intentions of being hypocrites.

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    • louise
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 7:11am

      To American Soldier,
      Today is Thanksgiving Day, and I am thankful you served in the military. And I mean that.
      I hope you will think about my next comment.

      If we tolerate all things, we stand for nothing.

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    • Latter-Day-Soldier
      Posted on November 25, 2011 at 3:52pm

      It is my firm belief that America was a land chosen by my Heavenly Father to be land for Christians to live in and our Founding Fathers were definitely men who loved God and sought inspiration through Him while fighting for our independence.
      Regardless of the knuckle-heads in power, I also firmly believe that as long as there are Christian men on the front-lines fighting for our country, our Heavenly Father will still bless and protect our nation….so long as we keep His commandments, these evil people in positions of power will eventually be brought to justice…be it this life or the next.
      Regardless of whatever turmoil our nation is in, there will always be righteous people who will help to steer this country back to her moral foundations. We just need to keep our faith strong and our good deeds never-ending.

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  • geomann
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:23pm

    I have read that the federal government intends to begin appointing atheists to chaplain posts, as not to discriminate. Maybe this was one of the first.

    I’ve got to give credit to the extreme left; they are enjoying much success tearing us down from within. Too bad that enjoyment will not extend into the afterlife.

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    • changedone
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 7:18am

      There are many who believe that after the Rapture, Islam will ultimately prevail, or some form of Islam, like Chrislam. Mainly because the Christians that oppose Islam will no longer be on earth. What will the politicians and our so-called “civic leaders” do then, when they are forced to pray to Mecca five times a day? They will long for the days of the past when they had religious freedom!

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  • KingCanon
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:22pm

    Never thought I would see the day when average people would fight so hard to destroy our Savior. Satan really is alive and well on planet earth. Wow…

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  • commonsenseguy
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:21pm

    well what one expect when the government is against christianity and when they let the non believers rule everyone else life, I’m sorry, i mean free thinkers or whatever they are now, what i don‘t understand is if only a few get offend by the cross or religion it’s self, then why do they continue to seek out things like this, if you don‘t like it don’t look, don’t go and just ignore it,but again what would you expect from a government who only wants to pees there on,by letting a few have the final say over the majority.i just wonder when this country is under communist rule if the free thinkers will still be bitching, i bet not.

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    • SLAPTHELEFT
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 5:29pm

      The free thinkers depend on man to give them their rights. Meanwhile infringing on the rights of others as Constituted. The freethinkers are scared poopless(don’t want to get censored) of Islam.

      The sword of conversion is razor sharp. It’s shaped like a crescent moon. There may be no Christians left to protect “free thought.” best of luck to ya, mr free think.

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  • Secessionista
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:19pm

    These soldiers may be confused about where the line is drawn, but it is crystal clear to me – our federal government ALWAYS sides with the infidels. No, not “us” infidels, “those” infidels.

    Christians are actively being persecuted in this country. It won’t be long before a church cannot have a cross that is visible from a public road. And next they won’t allow churches within 500 yards of a school. And church members will have to register in a database registry, just like sex offenders.

    Is there any doubt the source of evil? The best way to rout out this evil is to vote for a politician that will reduce government to the absolute minimum, where it is not powerful enough to infringe on our rights like this.

    Do I really have to repeat his name?

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    • SLAPTHELEFT
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 5:32pm

      No you don’t. But again we have been reduced to putting our faith in one man. I think we all know how it’s goin down at this point. Do I have to say it?

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  • TommyGuns
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:19pm

    I’ll probably get some flack for saying it, but I agree with the decision to remove the cross. Unless the military is willing to erect structures for every religious group, then the reasonable alternative is to have a single structure for all religious groups. That being said, I would think that they could have come up with a covering for the cross instead of removing it altogether.

    I also wonder if having a structure identified as a religious meeting place, regardless whether it is for a Christian, Jewish, Mormon, Buddhist, or whatever religion, would not make the structure a target. Islam is very intolerant of non-believers, and it would make one hell of a statement if they were to target this structure when services were being held. They could get a lot of mileage out of having killed the so called Crusaders who have invaded their land!

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    • bikerr
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:23pm

      @Tommyguns——–“every religious group”……Didn’t start this country. Christians did. That’s the truth. You should maybe change your mind.

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    • Secessionista
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:28pm

      Yeah, but what about the atheists that are offended that there is any religious structure there at all?

      What about radical feminists who want all men emasculated? Should we neuter our boys in uniform to make the feminists happy?

      What about KKK members? Should we hang the black servicemen outside the base?

      And I bet there are more than a few muslim servicemen – should we gas the jewish servicemen out of a sense of not offending the muslim servicemen?

      What about PETA, shouldn’t we force all of our servicemen onto a vegan diet?

      The constitution says the government is supposed to stay out of religion, it doesn‘t say religion can’t get all up in government’s face. Big difference. All we really are talking about here are haters. Who would ever hate a church, except a hater?

      These groups who are all offended are hardly truly offended – they simply have a deep-seated hatred. They are filled with hatred, and they use the law and the courts as their passive-aggressive means of hating without ever admitting their hate and never EVER admit the evil inside their souls.

      I don’t hate you for taking the other side, I really don’t. I am glad you stood up.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:31pm

      If every Faith in the World had their say in the founding of this Nation, we would be in much a bigger mess than we are today. It was the Protestant Christians who created the most prosperous and freest Nation to ever exist. No other People or Faith has ever come close to accomplishing the same.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:38pm

      The Majority rules by Vote… the Brave by Weapons… and the Weak & Minorities suck hind tit or relocate.

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    • rickbob
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:39pm

      Gotta agree with you, TG. When I was stationed at Fort Leonard Wood (25 years ago) the main post chapel had no permanent religious symbols on or in them. There was a cross on a rope and pulley that could be raised for faiths that didn’t use the cross in their worship service. There were menorahs and Stars of David available for Jewish service members. Don’t know about other faiths, but I am sure there were accommodations for them as well.

      I don’t see how fault can be found by following regulations that have been in effect for who knows how long. The officer/NCO who put the cross up in the first place should be given a good talking to. . .

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    • woemcat
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:48pm

      well said, BIKERR. christians, jews and catholics are the main folks who started our country. muslims started attacking our country from day 1—the Barbary Pirates war that lasted 30+ years. so, cut out the PC BULLCRAP about putting EVERY “religious emblem” up on stuff or none of them. cross and star of David and NOTHING ELSE!!!!

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:50pm

      @TommyGuns How about the Atheists who for the most part don’t believe in any religious activity, practice, or display? Should we just ban anything religious, to appease those irreligious folks? I mean if I didn‘t believe in God or religion and there’s a chapel on the base, that be pretty offensive, right? This is the same BS argument the Marxists try to pull off. We have always been a Christian PEOPLE, even before we ever became a NATION, and we had always guided our Nation as a Religious and Godly People through our Christian Faith and Christian Principles. It was the Spirit of Liberty so uniquely found and displayed in the New Testament, and adopted and practiced by us, that led and influenced our forefathers and ancestors in their fight for Liberty and Independence, and ultimately inspired them to establish the most just and freest Government to ever exist in the whole history of Mankind. The naysayers only have these past 40-60 years to prove an alternative story, which by the way is only defended and promoted to benefit Marxists beliefs. These naysayers use as proof our modern day very liberal Government and progressive Courts to justify their notions of our forefathers being a secular People and absolutist Government. The distortion and corruption in our institutions of learning, in these past 40-60 years, has led to this current ignorance and arrogance among our youths, and even among post baby boomer generations.

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    • SLAPTHELEFT
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 5:37pm

      Secession

      Well said my friend.

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    • Free2speakRN
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 7:49pm

      colt1860
      True indeed.
      You know, Soloman had it all. Power, Wealth that would make Gates look so-so, Women!!! anything and everything that would satisfy ‘the delights of man’. In 40 years, by the time he died, any good was in ruins. The Kingdom divided, war, human sacrifice, one bad after another. In 40 years!!!
      And it started alot earlier. How long since the 60′s?
      Also one doesn‘t put up a cross to ’cover’ it. That almost seems worse.
      As far as being a target, they couldn’t hate us anymore than they do.
      How hard can it be to keep the Cross, put up a couple more or so tents with the Star of David, Budda, etc, even the Cresent Moon and Star, the latter right next to The Cross and the Star of David? ie. To show American Union. The atheists’ tent can have a big empty frame.

      The clowns that want ‘Festives’, (which are most likely atheists having to make a point), lump them together according to the population on the site. Or do at least what RickBob said. It‘s just that it’s Christianity that is alway on trial the last 50 years in America.

      The Spirit of America has always been the Spirit of Christianity. The generousity, helping others etc. The others religions wouldn‘t even have this country if it wasn’t for the Christian Spirit to start with. Besides Christ Himself, when Constantine had the vision of the Cross, winning a losing battle, he declared Christianity as the Religion of Rome. Finally…the USA.

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    • SLAPTHELEFT
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 9:05pm

      Colt

      Well said my friend.

      Amen

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    • GeorgieBaby
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:32am

      You were courageous to post this on this forum. There isn’t a whole lot of religious tolerance amongst the general population of people who post on The Blaze. I respect the choices of people in what they believe and how they practice. Not many people afford others the same. It is better to build bridges and find commonality than to tear down, persecute, and incite mistruth and hate. Unfortunately, many of the “mainstream” Christian denominations in this country do this from their pulpits regularly.

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    • changedone
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 7:22am

      “Islam is very tolerant of non-believers”? Really? Tell that to the families of the victims of Nadal Hassan, the so-called “soldier of allah”. I will not diginify allah with a capitalization!

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  • lukerw
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:19pm

    That’s it! — Our leaders tell us that we are not a Christian Nation… the Miliatary is not Christian… and the Graves are not Consecrated!

    Death to Tyrants & Traitors!

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    • Skrewedretiree
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 5:27pm

      Here’s one veteran who swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution from ALL enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC. Stock up, load up.

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    • Faith1029
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 8:27pm

      SCREWEDRETIREE: “Here’s one veteran who swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution from ALL enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC. Stock up, load up.”

      I have the utmost respect for you and all the men and woman who are serving or have served our country to help keep us a free nation. Thank you so much. You are definetly appreciated. May God bless you for your service.

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  • NOBALONEY
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:18pm

    The regulations have been around for some time. Veterans Administration has a similar policy.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:23pm

      This about… a Representative Government… that no longer represents the Majority… and creates Atheistic Support “regulations” (to make everyone Regular, thereby conforming to lowest level)!

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    • Skrewedretiree
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 5:35pm

      Yes, the regulations have been around for some time….since the Carter regime at least. Under Nixon, when I served, I was REQUIRED to attend religious services while in basic training at Great Lakes Naval Training Center.

      During the Civil War era, you would be REQUIRED to attend religious services on Sunday or forfeit one third of a dollar as a penalty per offense. Read “Hardie’s Infantry Tactics” from that time. Copies are readily available from suppliers (sutlers) to the Civil War re-enacting community.

      If you read the Constitution, you will find in the Bill of Rights NO “separation of Church and State”, just a prohibition against the State IMPOSING a religion (like the Church of England- the reason for mention in the Bill of Rights) and if you read further you will find the words “NOR PROHIBIT THE FREE EXPRESSION THEREOF.” !

      It seems the modern Socialist Demonazis have no problem promoting islam, a cult of oppression and death, but wish to eradicate Christianity in all its form and expression.

      If the Left is looking for trouble, they found it.

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  • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:17pm

    I still see a cross on the doors. The chaplain, or one of the soldiers, should take a permanent marker and outline it.

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    • woemcat
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:52pm

      i agree, but they’d probably get in trouble for “defacing” gubbermint property. and like many have said, if they tried to remove a crescent, all hell would break loose. i’m tired of this war on christianity and judaism.

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  • 762x51
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:16pm

    Proof positive that the US military has contracted the liberal disease of political correctness.

    We are doomed.

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    • PATRIOTGRUNT
      Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:46pm

      @ 762×51: I couldn’t agree more. Besides the Christians are easy to **** on.We take it well.

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    • MetalPatriot
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:17am

      Some of you may know the non-politically correct phrase “Everybody in a fox-hole believes in God.” Truer words are seldom spoken.

      Christians are being shat upon (think, past-tense) in every corner of the planet. It’s just that we have access to know about it know. The problem is that the USA is now more hostile to it than ever. It sickens me that we’re supposed to be tolerant of everything under the sun EXCEPT Christianity.

      No, it’s not a “Christian” Army, but everybody I know (past/present) who have been in harms way asks whatever version of God they know for help/strength/courage/safety/etc. What’s wrong with that? Islamists want to kill in the name of their God. At least we don’t ask/pray to be martyrs.

      BTW: All of us SHOULD prepare for hard times as best we can. Those here that talk loudly about killing people on their porch haven’t had to take a life and life with it. It might have been for the right reasons/cause, but that doesn’t make it easier to do or live with.

      We don’t need “tough guys” …we need people that can do what’s necessary if the times call for it, but still be able to lend a hand when we can. Isn’t that what our ancestors did? Isn’t that one of the character traits of who we brag to be as a nation? Isn’t that why our men & women are strung about the planet helping defend these cultures we despise & their evil regimes, famines, natural disasters?

      Keep it real.

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  • JDF10487
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:14pm

    They should be up in arms! The stealth Muslim in the White House continues to add insult to injury.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on November 23, 2011 at 4:11pm

    I have to be honest on this post — this stinks to high heaven of Obama and his cronies seeking to make the military at ticked off as ever; for the sole purpose of forcing an incident to happen that he can use as another excuse to break them once and for all.

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