Soros-Linked Catholic Group & 90 Professors Protest Paul Ryan at Georgetown University
- Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:17am by
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Protesters display an anti-GOP banner at Georgetown University. The banner was there for the majority of Ryan’s address.
Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) delivered an address titled “America’s Enduring Promise” at Georgetown University Thursday morning.
His appearance prompted backlash from approximately 90 Georgetown faculty members and a certain Soros-linked “Catholic” group, both who argue Rep. Ryan’s budget is designed to help the rich at the expense of the poor.
Rep. Ryan, himself a Catholic, has said the Catholic faith helped influence the GOP House budget.
In an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network, Rep. Ryan talked about the Catholic idea of “subsidiarity,“ saying it means ”not having big government crowd out civic society, but … having enough space in our communities so that we can interact with each other” and take care of people.
“To me, the principle of subsidiarity, which is really federalism, meaning government closest to the people governs best,” he said.
But some at Georgetown are convinced the Wisconsin Congressman just doesn’t understand the true meaning of subsidiarity.
As Ryan’s speaking engagement approached, the offended faculty members sent him a letter accusing him of misusing Catholic doctrine to support his GOP House budget: “We appreciate your willingness to talk about how Catholic social teaching can help inform effective policy in dealing with the urgent challenges facing our country.”
“[W]e would be remiss … if we did not challenge your continuing misuse of Catholic teaching to defend a budget plan that decimates food programs for struggling families, radically weakens protections for the elderly and sick and gives more tax breaks to the wealthiest few,” their letter says.
And then there’s the “Catholic” group Catholics United:
…Oppos[e] the Ryan Budget, Which Gives Tax Breaks to the Wealthy at Expense of the Poor.
…a growing drumbeat of Catholic backlash against Rep. Paul Ryan for his immoral budget proposal, Catholics and people of faith
[…]
Faculty at Georgetown University, and now even the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, have condemned Ryan’s budget as failing the moral test incumbent upon people of faith.
But let’s take a deeper look at this “Catholic” group. Although Catholics United claims it’s a nonpartisan group dedicated to social justice, the group’s backing may indicate that it is anything but nonpartisan.
“The Soros-funded Tides Foundation has given $65,000 to the organization since 2007, and has given nearly $200,000 to the affiliated group Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good [emphasis added],” the Washington Free Beacon reports.
Catholic League president Bill Donohue refers to Catholics United as a “Soros-funded front group” which has been “created for the sole purpose of promoting liberal policies” that are contrary to teachings of the Catholic Church, according to the same report.
“They don’t have legitimate membership,” he told the Washington Free Beacon. “But every election year they get resurrected.”
Catholics United was established during the 2004 election cycle as a left-leaning religious group dedicated to the purpose of countering traditionally conservative groups, the Washington Times reports.
Rep. Ryan speaks at Georgetown University
“Liberal folks realized that religion was important to the electorate and if you can’t beat them, not only join them but appropriate their brand,” the Times’ Julia Duin writes.
Therefore, it’s not too surprising that the “left-wing” organization threw its support behind President Obama in 2008, denounced the anti-abortion Susan B. Anthony group as “extremists,” and condemned former GOP presidential candidate Rick Santorum for his “overstated positions on social issues.”’
But this hasn‘t stopped members of Georgetown’s faculty from aligning themselves with this highly questionable group; they are convinced Rep. Ryan has hijacked Catholic teaching as a “rationale for gutting government programs,” according to Fox News.
“Subsidiarity is not a free pass to dismantle government programs and abandon the poor to their own device,” the aforementioned letter to Ryan says.
Rep. Ryan speaks at Georgetown University
“It calls for solutions to be enacted as close to the level of local communities as possible. But it also demands that higher levels of government provide help — ‘subsidium’– when communities and local governments face problems beyond their means to address such as economic crises, high unemployment, endemic poverty and hunger.”
The Ryan budget, they said, “fails to meet these moral criteria,” CNN Money reports.
Rep. Ryan has responded to his “Catholic” critics by politely pointing out increased government spending doesn’t necessarily mean the lives of the poor will be improved.
Read the Beacon’s full report here / See Rep. Ryan’s address here
This story has been updated.
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Comments (171)
SadButTrue
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:03pmDoesn’t anyone at Georgetown have ANY education in economics?!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:17pmJust proves RYAN IS RIGHT!
Watch as the left comes unglued as Obama continues to FAIL!
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:51pmGeorgetown is just following the example set by the The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, the leadership of American Catholics, which sent a letter to Ryan telling him that his budget is in conflict with his faith.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/222003-catholic-bishops-criticize-ryan-budget-cuts-to-food-stamps
Or is the Catholic leadership, that Beck praised when it went after women’s access to healthcare and the healthcare law, now a Soros front group because they told a Republican his welfare for the wealthy budget is not what Jesus would pass.
Report Post »PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:33pmDEMAGOGUE……Demagogue……This word is used many times regarding BO so I looked it up….it’s a noun – A leader who uses the passions or prejudices of the populace for his own interests; An unprincipled popular orator or Agitator…..Perfect descriptive word. KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT RYAN, even though you may seem to be as Paul was “An Ambassador in Chains”. These false, Soros purchased “catholics” are without wisdom, and in bed with evil.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:47pm@PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Sorry, but taking from the poor, the children, the elderly and sick to pay for more tax breaks for very wealthy is against Catholic teaching or so says U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.
The Good Fight is fighting against Paul Ryan and the merry band of GOP congressmen seeking to rob from the poor to give to the rich.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 2:04pmENCINOM: You must be a student of Christ’s teaching to ” take from the rich and give to the poor.” Oh, wait. I think that was Robin Hood . Guess our Far Left Catholic bishops are a bit confused on that one too. You will remember that when Jesus performed the miracle of the loaves and fishes, he didn’t “ redistribute” ( i.e., take/ steal/ rob ) them from some local rich guy !
Report Post »Berbel73
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 2:04pmWell Encinom these bishops are mistaken and are doing a great disservice to the church and society as a whole.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/03/social_justice_and_the_catholic_vote.html
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 3:04pm@ENCINOM
If the poor have nothing, how can I take something from them?
The government takes from me and gives to the poor. That’s redistribution of wealth. If you’re religion instructs you to take care of the poor, great. But don’t force your religion on me. (or so goes the liberal argument).
I would rather live in a country where there are no poor due to the charity of it’s citizenry, not because an all-powerful government forces them to give. It’s a matter of attitude.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 3:11pmbarber2
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 2:04pm
ENCINOM: You must be a student of Christ’s teaching to ” take from the rich and give to the poor.” Oh, wait. I think that was Robin Hood . Guess our Far Left Catholic bishops are a bit confused on that one too. You will remember that when Jesus performed the miracle of the loaves and fishes, he didn’t “ redistribute” ( i.e., take/ steal/ rob ) them from some local rich guy !
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Are you serious, are you calling the group headed by Cardinal Dolan, that acts as the defacto leadership committee for the American Catholic church, the group that Beck praised and pledged to stand with, far left?
The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops issued letter to Paul Ryan and Congress denouncing Ryan’s use of his faith to justify the budget because it favors the rich while targets the poor, sick and needy.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 3:14pmFrom above, “His appearance prompted backlash from approximately 90 Georgetown faculty member and a certain Soros-linked “Catholic” group, both who (sic) argue Rep. Ryan’s budget is designed to help the rich at the expense of the poor.”
The are “arguing” the budget is designed to help the rich at the expense of the poor because that’s exactly what it does. It further reduces taxes for the rich and eliminates programs that benefit the poor.
You know, these Catholics may be onto something. Jesus did talk a whole lot about helping the poor and never to my knowledge about helping the rich become richer.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 3:31pmHistorically… Robin Hood failed… and was hated by the Poor… because the Tax Money that he stole to give to SOME Poor people, resulted in More Taxes upon Everyone… because John was collecting Money to Ransom King Richard!
Report Post »I_Occupy_A_Job
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 3:39pmActually @JZS, you’re way off base. His plan would increase tax revenue, not decrease it. Right now, our corporate tax rate is technically the highest in the world, but through tax deductions, credits, and other “loopholes”, most companies end up paying a much lower effective rate. Ryan’s budget calls for reducing the corporate tax rate to 25% while also closing those so called “loopholes”. So the effective rate will actually be the stated rate. And by having a more competitive corporate tax rate, you incentivize business to do business here rather than overseas, which increases the overall taxable pool. What’s bigger, 35% of $100 or 25% of $1,000? It’s called the Laffer Curve….look it up.
Report Post »Berbel73
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:12pm@JZS, doesn’t it bother you to just blatantly lie like that? I guess not, that would require a conscience and morals which you obviously don’t possess. You know full well that the Ryan budget only slows the rate of growth of these federal programs, and doesn’t leave the poor without any assistance at all. But this is how you progressives maintain your control. You lie and distort the facts to instill fear into the poor and the elderly so that they will continue to vote the democrats into office. You’d rather see these people remain in their current position in life and not be able to become self sufficient. Oh and let me explain a little something to you. No matter how much you want it to be so, the government cannot give something to people that they don’t have, i.e. tax breaks. See the money doesn‘t belong to the government so they can’t give it to the rich or to anyone for that matter. All the government can do is take from one and give to another, but you already know this now don’t you?
Oh and Encinom I guess you have no comment on my reply? I also guess that you think that this USCCB speaks for all Catholics? Well they don’t, and therefor your arguement is baseless. It’s just another attempt for you to try and further the progressive agenda by spreading more lies and distortions.
The progressive agenda is being revealed for the communist/socialist ploy that it is and you guys are terrified that your plan will be ruined once again. Too bad fo
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:16pm@encinom
Report Post »Taking what from the poor? By that handle “Poor” they have nothing to take. But they can be used as the foil by Politicians and their ilk such as you to practice group politics. The reality is that the Left couldn’t care less about the “Poor” and in fact needs them to say poor. The Left uses the poor while the Right’s agenda is stimulating the economy thereby moving the poor upward into the Middle Class. So with Friends like you the “Poor” don‘t need Enemy’s
drbage
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:20pmAmazing(wrong word, let’s say, interesting and telling) how the Conference of Bishops come out and condemn Rep. Ryan, yet those darn crickets keep chirping away in regards to defrocked Pope Pelosi‘s stand on birth control and abortion or pulling a page out of the Dems’ playbook and bringing up an event from years ago–the lifestyle of the deceased Sen. Kennedy).
Report Post »jzs
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:25pmI_Occupy_A_Job, okay, I think I know where you’re coming from with the Laffer curve. You give tax cuts to the rich, which stimulates business and job growth, which then actually increases government revenue. That sounds like a great idea, except when you realize that we’ve already tried it. Bush dramatically cut taxes twice. Jobs created? Answer: none. Increase in government revenue? Answer: none. In fact the deficit skyrocketed. Growth in the economy? Answer: none.
Occupy, it doesn’t work. Reagan tried it too, and he had to raise taxes to try to reign in the the skyrocketing deficit. The real curve is that if you reduce taxes 10%, you reduce revenue 10%. It’s just that simple.
Also, if you kept up with the news you’d realize that, yes, the Ryan budget calls for closing tax loopholes but that, no, he doesn‘t say what tax holes he’d close. He left out that little detail. And he left it out for a good reason. Republicans aren’t going to vote for closing loopholes because, in the mind of most, that’s a tax increase. President Obama has already tried to do that remember?
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/apr/05/barack-obama/obama-says-republicans-congress-wont-name-one-tax/
Report Post »ggswede
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:27pmI think the catholic church needs to fully investigate this group and publicly expose where it gets it’s funds to operate.Do this,and it’s credibility will tank.
Report Post »resme
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:33pmRyan = Bush cheerleader. Thanks Ryan.
Report Post »Cavallo
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:49pmIs the theft of one man’s property to give to another a sin? If that man you give it to is needy, is it right? Is the taking of one man’s property to give to another charity? Is it more or less right if one delegates the theft of the property to another or pays them to take the property and threaten the property owner with death? If one man is harmed by the mob so that the mob is enriched, is that justice? Is that Charity? Is that Holy and Righteous? Or is it only Holy and Righteous if I give it a name, or the proper title, like “agency”, or “administration”?
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:55pmIf Soros fears Ryan…that’s all I need to know. Ryan for VP!!!!
Report Post »Berbel73
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:06pmAre you kidding JZS? Your lies know no bounds! Paul Ryan’s plan is to simplify the federal tax code and to actually make it more fair, and to claim that it doesn’t is just a lie! It reduces the corporate tax rate to 25%, but it also eliminates many of the tax breaks that the progressives have put into it that favor their political contributers, so that 25% is actually 25% and not 13,14, or even less. It‘s the progressives that don’t want to reduced the size of the tax code and end these loopholes because that is exactly how they maintain their power. You progressives piss me off to no end. It is impossible to have an open and honest debate with you on anything, and our country is in the state that it is because of your lies and distortions! You don’t care about the poor or the elderly, they are a tool that you use to maintain your political power. You only care about enriching yourselves even if that means destroying our republic in the process. The truth is that if you want to improve the economy and bring more people out of poverty then allowing everyone to keep more of their hard earned money is the way to do it and not by increased taxation and federal spending.
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:36pm“at the expense of the poor”; doesn’t make any sense. Tax the rich, not the poor???
Get a ‘frearless Democrat’ (AKA Scoialist) to come forward; declare that all money is the property of the federal government, and the Fed’s will determine how much YOU are to get…..for starters, giver every one $30K on Jan 1;
Everyone still keeps their job, except they’ve been paid for a full year……..eveyone is the same..DA DA….Utopia is here!!!
Report Post »Alessandre
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:40pm@Encinom, the letters the Bishops sent to/re Ryan’s budget are their “2 cents” as any other citizen or group of citizens add, Ryan, as well as every other faithful Catholic knows it. The one area where they are correcting Ryan is subsidiarity. It’s not the same as federalism. Subsidiarity calls for the most local community in society (usually the family) to fulfill their own needs. When the family is unable to do so, the next level (friends/community/church) fulfills it & so on. The last level is the federal govt & should only be involved when no lower level can do the job. There is no Catholic teaching that requires the federal govt to provide food stamps or even to feed the poor. The requirement is that those who cannot care for themselves be helped. How we care for the poor is a prudential judgement that ought to be addressed on the most local level. That‘s what Ryan’s budget & his statements are all about. There are those, including some bishops, who see the federal govt as responsible for charity & believe in a “0” sum game wherein it is necessary to take from the rich to help the poor. That is totally contrary to Catholic teaching which calls socialism & communism great evils. Charity is always voluntary. You might read the Church’s encyclicals on social teaching http://sao.clriq.org.au/cst/cst_intro.html & note: the Catholic social teaching proposes principals but is not a blueprint: not what we must do but what might work best; the Church is open to better id
Report Post »inblack
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:41pm@ENCINOM
Maybe you need to stop sniffing glue.
Slowing down the growth in no stings attached give-aways to poor people is not stealing from them.
People are poor because they don‘t have a job and don’t produce anything.
Giving them all of their needs plus luxuries will only encourage them to not work. If they don’t work, they have no pride and no dignity.
If you believe social justice crap then dignity is what you want to magically give away to people who have no dignity – it doesn’t work.
If Obama would stop crippling the country and the church would focus on feeding the truly needy themselves, we wouldn’t have poor people.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:46pm@SADBUTTRUE
No, of course not. Who would pay $60,000/yr for going to Georgetown when they can get the same education for $10,000 at a state school?
In fact it is immoral for these Catholic students to waste that $50,000 every year instead of taking care of the truly poor – those incapable of working. This is what the Bishops and the so called faculty should be demonstrating about.
The church has rejected it‘s mission to serve God’s people and now just runs communist training camps like Notre Dame and Georgetown.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:09pm@Berbel73
Report Post »Actually the Conference of Bishops is at the top of the Catholic power structure in America. So yeah, they state the position of the Catholic Church unless the Pope says otherwise.
Berbel73
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:41pmWell Encinom since you obviously didn’t bother to go to the link that I provided that totally disproves your arguement allow me to enlighten you some with a small portion of it. I‘ll also provide the link again just in case you’ve missed it.
Blessed Pope John Paul II, in his 1991 encyclical Centesimus Annus, said:
[D]efects in the Social Assistance State are the result of an inadequate understanding of the tasks proper to the State. Here again the principle of subsidiarity must be respected: a community of a higher order should not interfere in the internal life of a community of a lower order, depriving the latter of its functions, but rather should support it in case of need and help to coordinate its activity with the activities of the rest of society, always with a view to the common good. By intervening directly and depriving society of its responsibility, the Social Assistance State leads to a loss of human energies and an inordinate increase of public agencies, which are dominated more by bureaucratic thinking than by concern for serving their clients, and which are accompanied by an enormous increase in spending.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/03/social_justice_and_the_catholic_vote.html
Report Post »Alessandre
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:50pm@ENCINOM This is a better site for the Catholic social teaching encyclicals, it provides links to the encyclicals themselves: http://www.secondexodus.com/html/vaticandocs/volumedirectories/socialteaching.htm. Happy reading. (I do hope, even though you seem to be a troll, that you are interested in the truth.)
Report Post »Berbel73
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:01pmI wouldn’t hold my breath Alessandre, these two are so indoctrinated in progressive ideology that they no longer can accept the truth. However, I think that they must be intellectual masochists for them to come here and get smacked down with the truth as much as they do.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:56pmBerbel73 says, “doesn’t’t it (sic) bother you to just blatantly lie like that? I guess not, that would require a conscience and morals which you obviously don’t possess.” That’s a stretch Berbel, to say that I have no conscience or morals. What is you basis for that statement, and what’s your basis for your statement that I told a blatant lie? What lie did I tell?
Seriously Berbel73, when someone starts a post saying “you’re a liar, you have no conscience and you have no morals” one thing is certain. You refuse to actually engage in an exchange of ideas and, mostly likely, you have no argument that your willing to defend. Those kind of statements are an admission that you’ve dismissed anything the person has said or might say right up front, and you’ve closed your eyes and ears, and refuse to even consider anything you disagree with you might say.
You say, “I guess you have no comment on my reply?” Sure I will, but what’s the point? You’ve specified up front that anything I say is a lie. You’ve already stated that everything I say is a lie, and that I’m immoral and despicable.
My opinion? You know your shallow arguments won’t stand up to scrutiny (especially because because they are all borrowed), you’re insecure, and you don’t have a firm, intellectual basis for your beliefs. That’s my opinion.
Report Post »Berbel73
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:02amJZS said, “The are “arguing” the budget is designed to help the rich at the expense of the poor because that’s exactly what it does. It further reduces taxes for the rich and eliminates programs that benefit the poor.” LIE! Name the program that it eliminates JZS, name it. It doesn’t so you LIED.
Report Post »JZS said, “Occupy, it doesn’t work. Reagan tried it too, and he had to raise taxes to try to reign in the the skyrocketing deficit. The real curve is that if you reduce taxes 10%, you reduce revenue 10%. It’s just that simple. ” LIE! I usually don’t use wikipedia as a resource but in this case its right on so I will.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Reform_Act_of_1986
So as you can see JZS I am basing my assertion that you not only are a blatant liar and also have no morals what so ever on the fact that you lie unabashedly. All of your arguments are based in lies and pretense. So yes I have dismissed the things that you have to say, and no I won’t have any sort of “exchange of ideas” with a liar. What would be the point? As for your opinion of my beliefs well I think you know what they say about opinions. So if you want to have a serious debate then my suggestion to you would be to grow up, put on your big boy pants, and stop with all of the childish lying. Oh, and unless you and Encinom are the same person, and for all I know you very well could be you seem to be at least sharing the same brain; my later comment wasn’t even direct towards you.
jzs
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 2:11amBerbel73, you’re overly fond of the word “lie.” That declaration is a convenience for someone like you who can’t defend their opinions in any other way.
I read your wiki reference (and congratulations for actually trying to look up something) and there isn’t one single word about the topic in question – raising government revenue. You didn’t go to college did you? In support of your argument, which as far as I can tell is only that I’m a “liar”, you’ve given a link that has nothing to do with your Laffer curve or government revenue or anything else under discussion. Sorry, you get an F for that. Reducing taxes doesn’t raise revenue, and never has. Berbel, calling me a “liar” 10 times in a post doesn’t make me a liar. Saying (to yourself really) 10 times that I’m immoral, doesn’t make me immoral. Posting a link that is irrelevant to your opinion doesn’t prove your opinion – it only shows that you either didn’t read the link or that you are incapable of understanding the content of your link.
Berbel, you’re lost on this topic, and calling names and making accusations doesn’t help your case. Maybe you should look up how that Laffer Curve worked out with the Bush tax cuts?
Report Post »str8blues
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 5:41amENCINOM Every post I‘ve ever read of yours I’ve considered lunacy. This one is no different. If you knew anything about economics OR the era of Ronald Reagan. When you cut taxes on those of us who pay for your welfare…..it increases income to the government because rather than TAKING from the MAKERS…….the same dollar is circulated through the economy and taxed over and over as people whose hands those dollars pass through pay taxes every time they spend the dollar. Its proven over and over and you Robin Hood wanabes just don’t get it. Well we’re going to prove it once again in January when Romney begins implementing the policies of Reagan who will have the same affect as they did 30 years ago. Grow up….educate yourself.
Report Post »str8blues
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 5:48amJZS…….you forgot one thing in your misguided rant…..it should have started out with “Once upon a time in a far away land……………” Reagan cut taxes 7 times in his first term. Created the longest economic boom in American history that went all the way through GHWB, Clinton and 6 years into GWB until the Democrat house and senate pushed to force lenders to provide home loans to those who couldn’t afford homes…..and the rest is history. BUT…..luckily since you didn’t get it the first time around……you’ll get another education come January when President Romney begins to implement the proven Reagan policies of letting people keep more of their own money. Even the EVIL RICH.
Report Post »Berbel73
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 8:10amWell JZS you prove my point once again. I’ve shown how your arguments are all based in lies and misinformation and all you can do is attack me now. You’re beyond pathetic, and just like a child who responds to everything with “I know you are but what am I” you responses reveal your lack of a defendable position. You know that you are a liar and you are perfectly fine with it, so I will waste no further time on you as you are not worth the effort.
Report Post »Sugabee
Posted on April 27, 2012 at 8:57am@ CAVALLO: You have the most succinct and poetic answer to all of this. I love you.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:02pmThe left wants just enough capitalism, in order to fund its socialism, but the working people are at the breaking point, every time I turn around there is a worthless government agency with its hand out for 500 or a thousand bucks… I’m sick of it, and we don‘t need it and we can’t afford it…..
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:57amIt’s easy being poor, try starting a business and employing people, those are the folks that need our help and support, not malt liquor drinking, crack smokin, welfare suckin, air Jordan wearin Democrats!!!
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:11pmPeople who are drinkers (and I’m not) but it isn’t a reliable gauge to determine whether or not someone is a Socialist. It’s in who they want to steal from to support their habit. But if someone is a drinker, and they only steal from themselves to be a drunkard, well, you can hardly steal from yourself.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:17pmI think rather people who abuse life destroying drugs that it’s more of a result of friction within themselves, and the joy of the numbing effect out weighs the side effects. Because their are many many wicked people who use no drugs, don’t smoke, and don’t even drink alcohol period.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:55amOnly a liberal would have a mind small enough to accommodate this kind of crap.
Report Post »Optimist4now
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:54amOnce you give ‘em free stuff, it’s hard to take it away. Thought the “Catholics” were the promoters of charity, not the police of others charity — welfare is not the job of good government.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:50amJust remember, according to the liberal theologians, Jesus came to put a chicken in every pot . And to punish the rich and redistribute their stuff. ( forget that love message / out of vogue today ) …You go, liberal Catholics…
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:50am.
Report Post »Let’s just Starve the Poor and get it over with, I’m tired of feeding them………..
Itsjusttim
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:55amYou don’t need to starve them, because they starve themselves.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:59amWhy do you think rich Socialists are so quick to want to give handouts to poor whiners? Because they are brethren, except rich Socialists will hardly use their own money, but instead they steal the wealth of those who have God given fruit, and give that to the whining poor. And it hasn’t been until recently that Socialists really began giving handouts to Native Americans.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:00pmBecause Native Americans weren’t whining, which means they were not like the flesh of Socialists.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:49amYou know what, I no longer give a ratsass about the poor, most of them are content with being poor, and most if not all are poor for a reason, and if you gave everyone of them a million dollars, they would be poor again in 6 months….. I like the work or starve doctrine, I’ve been hungry before, it‘s no fun but it’s an incredible motivator….. I was 17, in a new city, on my own and broke to the bone, went hungry for two days ! Those were the two most valuable days of my life !!!!! Wouldn’t trade em for anything !!!
Report Post »doomytram
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:47amNo surprise here. Paul Ryan doesn’t want America to fail and is a Free Market Capitalist, and the Vile Soros and these Marxist Communist are Oblamer’s bunch.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:52amI don’t care about the professional poor, they do it or a living…. At our expense…they will always be poor, the Democrats wouldn’t have it any other way ! They need em way to much!!!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:58amHe just wants the Bill of Rights to fail.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:17pmThe U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) is criticizing the House Republican budget authored by Rep. Paul Ryan , not a Soros backed group but the official voice of American Catholic Bishops. Beck is cherry picking the facts here. While a liberal group protested in Georgetown, they are following the lead of the Church leadership, the same leadership that Beck praised when it went after women’s healthcare. The Bishops rejected the notion that Ryan was acting within the teaching of his faith.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/222003-catholic-bishops-criticize-ryan-budget-cuts-to-food-stamps
Report Post »socialism.rocks
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 2:50pmyou really dont know what free markets are…silly ayn rander
free enterprise is when the people decide the value of products goods and services
republicans are anti-free enterprise to the core anti free markets to the core
they want to few to decide over the many~
Report Post »paul ryan is anti free enterprise to the core anti liberty anti free market
justangry
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 3:08pm@Socialismrocks, Some of us are actually trying to purge the GOP of your kind.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:34pm@STUPID.SOCIALIST
No idiot you are describing the Free Market.
Free Enterprise is when individuals are free to own and invest in the tools of production and run a business without competing with the govt. The opposite of socialism.
Paul Ryan is for Free Markets and Free Enterprise.
Are you being paid to say this stuff or are you just so stupid that you don’t get it?
Report Post »justangry
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:26pmHe’s actually kind of right. Many Republicans are corporatist not capitalists. Ryan included.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:03pm@corp
Present your evidence that Ryan is a corporatist.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:51pmDoes he want to get rid of the PRIVATE federal reserve?
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:44amIf it’s linked with Soro, it can’t be Catholic ! Think it’s time for the Pope to revisit that old “ excommunication ” thingy. ( Pelosi probably the first to go ! )
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:42amThe people who are poor now (and yet they complain) because they are slothful, are people who are supposed to be poor now. It’s the way the spirit becomes flesh.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:44amAnd they have no reason to complain because the way was left in the Testimony of Jesus Christ.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:47amThe same way the spirit became flesh in the 12 Apostles.
Report Post »momsense
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:38amAnother bunch of entitlement babies whining because they may just have to stop sponging from the pockets of the tax payer.
Report Post »Dde13
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:38amLet the propaganda begin. Soros is a commie……There will always be poor. Our poor, have a roof, food stamps, free health care, free cell phones, free education, BUT SOMEBODY IS PAYING, THE WORKING….
Report Post »They need a job and out of the nanny state.
inblack
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:44pmThe Catholic Bishops need to stop pushing their mission off on unwilling tax payers or resign.
If the church cannot afford to feed the poor then they need to stop running Georgetown’s communist propaganda factory and turn the profits of Notre Dame football over to charity.
They are morally bankrupting the Catholic Church by not demanding that the faithful take care of God’s people. If they won’t stand up and make a difference themselves, why do we need a Catholic church? Let’s just completely replace the Catholic Church with the govt.
Sadly the bishops want to tell people how to live, but take no responsibility for implementing it themselves. Hmm sounds a lot like washington.
Report Post »Alessandre
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:14pm@Inblack, Catholics feed more people than any other organization in the world. 30% of all hospitals in the US are Catholic & many of them offer free healthcare. Catholics care not only for other Catholics but for non-Catholics – we care when we see need.
Some Catholic bishops do make a great deal of confusion w/ statements that are opinion & not Church teaching. Some of them see the federal govt as responsible for the poor when it ought not have anything to do w/ charity. And yes, too many bishops forget that the job of the Church is to care for the poor & complain that the federal govt fails. But Catholics do care for the poor which you could discover w/ a simple search of the net.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:03pm@ALESSANDRE
1) You will note that the statement against the Ryan budget came from the USCCB. If that is so then it was not some willy nilly liberal priest message. It was a statement ““The House-passed budget resolution fails to meet these moral criteria.” from the bishops, representing all the bishops or at least their consensus.
2) I never said Catholics were not generous. I am in fact a generous, though could be more generous, Catholic myself and I am irritated by the bishops talking more about govt social policy than our obligation to charity. It is not our duty or our right to steal from non-believers or the unwilling using the coercive power of the govt. If we cannot win men’s hearts then we must fail, NOT take away their free will. We know this because this is what the Father did – gave us free will.
3) All of the troubles with the govt and church have been from partnering with the govt and letting them tie strings to the church. Don’t speak you conscience or we will take away your tax exempt status. Don’t stand on your religious beliefs or we will force you to break them.
The power that the church bestows on the govt by handing off God’s mission is the same power that the govt will use to coerce and destroy the church. We prayed for 50 years that Stalin‘s Socialist USSR would fall and free the Christians within it’s border and then we support a govt that is headed down the same path as Stalin.
We should know better. Some of us do.
Report Post »Sharon Rose
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:32amThese so called Catholics should be ashamed of themselves.
Report Post »oldguy49
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:43amthey think they are poor now……………if we keep going toward socialism they will know what poor really is
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:51amyes they should. that sign/poster is blashphemous. Mr Ryan is a Catholic, I watched him on EWTN, World Over Live discuss his feelings of being attacked by some in his church. Disgusting to see people of faith attack him when he is simply trying to keep our country from going bankrupt.
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:32amI would love to see the total pay package of each and everyone of those professors and just how much they give to charity.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:32amGeorgetown University is an institution that has long supported racism… anti-white racism.
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:32amI’m so sick of hearing about the Catholics lately. They helped give us Obama. I like Ryan but he’s an idiot to bother to even speak at Georgetown, considering “Living Jesuit Values” today, means being a Communist.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:53amYou are talking about the dumb Catholics. The ones who don’t know history of Marxism , Communism and do not know their own Catholic dogma which is based upon the dignity of the individual not that of the State.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:15pmBarber2
These Catholics are not DUMB caholics,they are Catholics-in-name-only paid for by billionaires like Soros and leftist special interest groups. These Catholics-in-name-only are the ones that support abortion and same sex marriage within the church…..something that is contrary to the doctrines of the Catholic church.
A new acronym CINO-ha ha ha ha.
The Catholic church..the REAL Catholics need to condemn the practicing CINO’s and excommunicate them from the church.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 2:05pmSLR: Agree. I meant they were “ doctrinally” dumb!
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:30amThe only war on the poor is being perpetrated by the POOR………………AND THE WEALTHY, VERRRRRY WEALTHY DEMS AND LEFTISTS………………………hellllooooooooooooo/
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:30amIt’s the oddest thing, but when Jesus did his teachings, most of the rich maintained their wealth through tyranny, and yes a Socialist mindset. But people don‘t understand that just as they don’t understand the mindset of people even 200 years ago, and people judge them through modern eyes.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:29amSo… we know who should be Fired & Excommunicated! So, what? — The people with Power… either Agree or are Too Scared!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:49pmI thought we were at war with women, now we’re at war with the poor? I thought I was at war with terrorism, but now I‘m told that’s over. I‘m going to need a daily memo to tell me who I’m at war with.
Report Post »drphil69
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:28amYes, it is immoral to not borrow from our children and grandchildren until the entire economic system collapses. The moral thing of course is to allow it all to collapse so that millions starve to death or die in the chaos.
Many of these bishops will not like where they end up at the end of their lives. My guess is it will be pretty warm.
Report Post »Alessandre
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:20pmMany of the bishops seem very silly. Faithful Catholics learn the Church’s teachings & follow them & we pray for the silly bishops & that they might retire & be replaced by men of God who actually know & follow the teachings of the Church & who live in reality.
Report Post »marybethelizabeth
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:27amCatholics United was started to oppose John Kerry because he was pro abortion.
They are not a Soros funded group.
Report Post »KrebsCyclist
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:33am“Catholics United was started to oppose John Kerry because he was pro abortion. ”
Exactly backwards. CU grew out of a 2004 effort to contend that it was morally acceptable for Catholics to vote for Kerry the pro-abortion lefty.
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:33amOh really? Answer this question for us…Who is Chris Korzen?
We can start there and work our way backwards.
Report Post »marybethelizabeth
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:40amWhat you wrote is false.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:46amMARYELIZABETH…we appreciate you lying for your cause..I wouldn’t expect anything less from a lefty troll sent here by media matters.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:05pm@MARYELIZABETH
–They are not a Soros funded group–
“The Soros-funded Tides Foundation has given $65,000 to the organization since 2007, and has given nearly $200,000 to the affiliated group Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good”
You may have missed this part.
It doesn’t say Soros started it, but to deny he funds it is, well, denial.
Report Post »KrebsCyclist
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:06pmMARYBETHELIZABETH wrote: “What you wrote is false.”
Talking to yourself now?
Report Post »sooner12
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 2:47pmSo why are they still in existence, since Kerry is now just a memory. Are you part of Citizens United? Just what is your bent?
Report Post »Texasexpat
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:51pmAny group that takes money from Soros,has to do his bidding. Soros then calls the shots and group ends up being socialist/communist/marxist (choose one; they could equally apply).
Report Post »As far as the Church spouting communist crap,(I, too , am a Catholic), whatever happened to “God helps those who help themselves”? No where does He say,“Line up and take everything from others”
thenizzutz
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:25amThe poor in the country contribute nothing. The vast majority want something for nothing… free stuff for everyone!
Report Post »marybethelizabeth
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:39amThe poor seem to be serving a function for you: a group you can malign with derisive comments so you can feel better about yourself.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:47amMBE: Well, the Democrat politicians seem to be having a pretty great time using “ the poor” to malign the American taxpayers with “ derisive comments ” so they can feel good about themselves AND BUY VOTES FOR 2012 !
Report Post »drphil69
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:28pmRe-elect OBAMA! The crash of the entire economy will STARVE THE POOR!
It always amazes me that the left doesn’t understand that wealth must be reproduced! If the farmer doesn’t grow food – YOU STARVE! When the incentive to create wealth disappears – YOU STARVE!
But to all my lefty friends, no worries, I’m just a crazy right-winger clinging to his God and guns. So please don’t prepare, don’t buy guns, don’t store food, don’t have an escape plan.
To all my “crazy” right wing friends, BE PREPARED, and remember, DON’T FEED THE LIBS, THEY MULTIPLY LIKE RABBITS! (at least they will, when abortions are no longer readily available)
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:25amAmazing that baby destroying leftist “Catholics” would be stupid enough to think Jesus is on their side.
Report Post »LLATPOH
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:24amMeh. I’m sure Paul Ryan can handle the tripe from this bunch. There’s going to be rage against the changing of the status quo, and we all need to be prepared to face it.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:15pmThe rage will be beyond most peoples imagination; what we are seeing is the ongoing preemption of battle by the left and the admin to try and prevent another 2010 smash of the status quo. We need to stand strong until we can get Obama out of office this Nov.
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