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SC Gov. Nikki Haley Says No to NAACP’s Call to Remove Confederate Flag From Capitol

South Carolina Republican Gov. Nikki Haley said she has no intention of removing the Confederate flag that flies beside the Statehouse, despite the head of the NAACP calling it a “contradiction” for Haley, an ethnic minority, to allow the flag to fly.

South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley Says No to NAACP Call to Remove Confederate Flag From Capitol

The Confederate flag has flown beside the South Carolina Statehouse since 2000. Gov. Nikki Haley rejected NAACP President Benjamin Jealous' call Monday to remove it.

NAACP President Benjamin Jealous called on Haley to remove the flag during an NAACP conference in Los Angeles on Monday, comparing African American slavery and segregation to the oppression Haley’s ancestors in India faced under British colonialism.

“Perhaps one of the most perplexing examples of the contradictions in this moment in history is that Nikki Haley, South Carolina’s first governor of color, continues to fly the Confederate flag in front of her state’s Capitol,” Jealous said. “Given the similarities between our struggles to end slavery and segregation, and her ancestors’ struggle to end British colonialism and oppression in India, my question to Governor Haley is one that Dr. King often asked himself: What would Gandhi do?”

Haley’s spokesman, Rob Godfrey, said the governor has no intention of renewing the flag debate, which has come under fire before from the NAACP and others who say the flag represents slavery and white supremacy.

“More than a decade ago, under the leadership of a Democratic governor, South Carolinians — Republican and Democrat, black and white — came to a compromise position on the Confederate flag,” Godfrey said. “Many people were uncomfortable with that compromise, but it addressed a sensitive subject in a way that South Carolina as a whole could accept. We don’t expect people from outside the state to understand that dynamic, but revisiting that issue is not part of the governor’s agenda.

According to South Carolina newspaper the State, the flag has flown on the north end of the Statehouse near a monument to Confederate soldiers since 2000. It was placed there as part of a legislative compromise to remove it from the Statehouse dome.

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  • Whostolemypig
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:31am

    People of color? Did crayola take the white crayon out of the box?

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    • mikem1969
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:54am

      The NAACP is so racist. They always play the race card because they have no other way to spread their hate filled bs.

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    • On The Bayou
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:06pm

      Ben Jealous has more White Blood running through his veins than the average white man. How do the true Blacks allow this to happen to their group. Just like Obama he`s not a Black Man, he`s a half breed.

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    • John 1776
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:12pm

      Erasing the past only insures we repeat it. The flag is know for what it is known. It is part of the state’s history for better or worse. Let it be.

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:25pm

      John 1776

      You said it well….IT’S HISTORY
      Learn from the past and the future will be better.

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    • Ronko
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:33pm

      The NAACP is full of racists but the flag needs to go. There is nothing historical about that flag and I guess the Governor doesn’t care about the African Americans that were enslaved or the power grab that the Confederates were trying to do. The flag has to go.

       
    • MIBUGNU2
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:42pm

      Hold your ground Gov. Haley…Good Call !!
      We are quickly becoming the minority..enough of this
      PC crap, Good Grief, can’t believe these people !!!

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:47pm

      That’s exactly what I was thinking, let it be, whether you agree with it or not, stand strong Nikki!

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    • jimtrees
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:53pm

      The naacp are so full of crab it’s unreal. Get rid of the black caucus first. There’s a start.

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    • Wayner
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:53pm

      The only people who make a racist thing out of the Confederate Battle Flag are the biggest and most hypocritical of all …. the ***** race.

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    • The Big Pickle
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:54pm

      Abraham Lincoln Quote:

      “I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the White and Black races–that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with White people, and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the White and Black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the White race. . . I give. . . the most solemn pledge that I will to the very last, stand by the law of the State, which forbids the marrying of white people with negroes.” – Abraham Lincoln (Fourth Debate with Stephen Douglas at Charleston, Illinois on September 18, 1858, Vol. III, p. 145-146 of The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln).

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    • hurricanerigger
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 1:18pm

      Isn’t fighting for the rights of 1 specific race, Racist itself! I thought we were all equal! As we all know, Africans are the most racist! Through time, we have become more “black friendly” and they have become more “White Haters”

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    • robert
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 1:35pm

      Whostolemypig
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:31am
      “People of color? Did crayola take the white crayon out of the box?”

      What blacks are doing now is pretending that anybody that doesn’t have white skin is on their side. (Even ones like the governor who look white to most everybody else, but blacks apparently) It’s their way of bringing unwilling participants to their side, using just their disgusting black mouths.

      Most people of color want nothing to do with blacks and they don’t need to whine and complain about everything, because they can advance on their own. Blacks can’t. Their only chance of any kind of success is by whining and complaining like imbecillic children. They’re the incompetent squeaky wheels who make noise in order to get oiled.

      This is why I’m quick to point out that blacks are the lowest performing people in America today, and they’re not judged by the color of their skin but by their ability, and their propensity for crime and violence. Their problems go much deeper than skin color and is confined strictly to the brain. All the other “people of color” do o.k. but them.

      Also, to say “people of color” have the same things in common with blacks is an insult of the highest order which is often acknowledged by these same “people of color,” who want no part of being included in with low black group I.Q.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 1:48pm

      All of you Constitution-touting nutjobs seem to have forgotten that the Confederate flag is a symbol of open rebellion and treachery against the United States of America. How can you consider yourself a patriotic American while defending the symbol that literally attempted to destroy the country as we know it?

      So you folks who would call any tiny thing Obama does treason would defend to the end the right of a state house to fly the flag of a short-lived country that DID actually try to destroy the US?

       
    • RavenGlenn
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:41pm

      @RONKO:

      Whoa whoa whoa! Nothing historical? What in the blazes do you mean? The confederacy stood for states rights over an oppressive government that wanted to rule over everyone else. Yes, they did make use of slavery, but that’s not all it was about. There are still black people out there that carry that flag because of what it stood for. While some people only associate it with slavery, that’s public schools that have brainwashed the patrons.

      @ PUBLIUS

      What?! A symbol of open rebellion? What are you smoking? The south was just as much a part of the country as the north. They dissagreed on how things should be run and a war was fought to determine it. The confederacy was no more a rebellion that attempted to destroy the country then we we as a country were a rebellion that attempted to destroy the country that was owned by Britain/France/Spain.

      You really need to read up on your history again mate. To even call the conferacy a group that tried to destroy the country is idiotic. If anything, you could say it was the north that did that by trying to change the way the country was run. Prior to the civil war movements every state ran things their own way. It was the north that wanted to change that and make a centralized government.

      Note: I am not from the south, nor am I racist or anything else of the kind. I live in Philadelphia and before that, Pittsburgh. I simply don’t like when people spout off nonsense when it comes to history.

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    • apotlicker
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:44pm

      @publius

      I‘m guessin’ you is a yankee?

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    • DSVet
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 5:18pm

      Those that see racism in everything do so because they see everything through a racist lense, making them the actual racist.

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    • UnreconstructedLibertarian
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 5:42pm

      I suspect that when the NLRB interfered with South Carolina’s new Boeing plant, Governor Haley contemplated the true value of the flag – state’s rights!

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    • fliteking
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 5:46pm

      Like it or not, a lot of American Soldiers died defending that flag, which is the real meaning.

      Man up and respect the flag for what it means.

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    • CynicalPatriot
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 5:59pm

      @ROBERT

      “What blacks are doing now is pretending that anybody that doesn’t have white skin is on their side.
      Most people of color want nothing to do with blacks and they don’t need to whine and complain about everything, because they can advance on their own.”

      That’s been my personal experience working with non-black “people of color”(i.e. arabs, asians, and Indians) . They don‘t feel oppressed and don’t understand the caterwauling about racial discrimination. I used to work in a factory full of Southeast Asian people, as a group, they‘re the most racist people I’ve ever met in my life, and they all hated blacks. I had a Cambodian friend who taught me the words in their language so I’d know when they were making fun of the black people. Funny, he didn‘t teach my any of the words to know when they’re talking about whitey.

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    • Nathan
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 6:32pm

      @ publiouspencilman

      Your view is twisted. The “constitution touting nut-jobs” are not hypocrites as you tried to point out. The constitution guarantees state sovereignty and a republican form of government, both of which have been comprimised by usurpation and consolidation of power by the federal government over the last century. Slavery was wrong, but it was for the states to implement their own reforms. The South fought for independence from a growing central power. And the Obama administration’s extreme push to undermine the constitution and state sovereignty is unprecedented.

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    • robert
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 7:34pm

      Cynaical Patriot:

      “I used to work in a factory full of Southeast Asian people, as a group, they‘re the most racist people I’ve ever met in my life, and they all hated blacks.”

      I’ve encountered close to the same thing in Los Angeles, so I’m familiar with what your experiences are regarding Asians.

      The only thing I might add is that I’m not sure what their attitudes are can be called racism, and I‘m saying that because I know of several instances of outrageous bullying by blacks against Asians because they’re small and different. If they dislike blacks……or any other group…it‘s usually always because they’ve been brutalized constantly by blacks or a friend or family member has.

      A Philadelphia school had a flurry of black on Asian attacks a while ago, which prompted the Asians to boycott the school until they forced the administration to protect them. There have been many other similar incidents mostly in the big urban areas since that’s where blacks and Asians go to the same schools.

      Ying Ma has a web site now, but she came out with the first cries of racism in 1998. She has other articles now of recent vintage warning of the same thing. Nothing’s changed.
      http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=21987

      With racism in this country, if you look into it, it’s usually always blacks who are the racists.

      it is blacks who should be considered racist if the term has any meaning now, because they seem to dislike every

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    • VanGrungy
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 9:38pm

      “comparing African American slavery and segregation to the oppression Haley’s ancestors in India faced under British colonialism.”

      Idiot NAACP… before the British, the muslims were WAY WAY WAY worse..

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    • Eff the Poor
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:28pm

      @Fliteking… Here here! Thank you.

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    • Brasil2520
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 12:59am

      An WHOSTOLEMYPIG

      I’m going to give away my age, when I was a kid the name of the crayon that matched our skin color was called “skin color”

      20 years later when I took my kids to school, Crayola fell in line with the political correct indoctrination, and started changing the names of the crayon’s.

      An ROBERT und CYNICALPATRIOT

      30 years ago when I was in the American army, a fight almost broke out in the shower at the army base, the blacks started make fun of the Asian guys for having small, you know what’s, yeah it got crazy, the blacks started saying the Asian’s had “RICE D—K“S”

      Oh yeah it’s a melting pot allright, it just hasn’t melted yet.

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    • shorthanded12
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 1:51am

      Wayner
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:53pm
      The only people who make a racist thing out of the Confederate Battle Flag are the biggest and most hypocritical of all …. the ***** race

      @Wayner Your about 80% right, theres plenty of white politicians, spiritual leaders etc that use the race card to apease to there base. When we still have ppl like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Reverne Wright, Eric Holder, Barry “O” indoctornating the younger generation with there corrupt opinions then there wont be no change in America. Affimative Action has done more to destroy democracy than help. The NAACP in my book is no worse than the Klan, New Blk Panthers etc.

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    • Brasil2520
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:42am

      GOD SAVE THE CONFEDERACY

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqyJrr6o3d0&feature=related

      Now Johnny Rebel stand up and salute !!!

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    • AnAppealToGod
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 2:59am

      You have to think about irrelevant organizations like the NAACP as businesses. The same way firemen need fires and tow truck drivers need stalled/wrecked/etc cars, the NAACP need rebel flags to be flown. They HAVE to be racist. It‘s that or close up shop and Lord knows they won’t do that. ;)

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    • Conservative_Scientist
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 3:03am

      @PubliusPencilman:
      “All of you Constitution-touting nutjobs seem to have forgotten that the Confederate flag is a symbol of open rebellion and treachery against the United States of America. How can you consider yourself a patriotic American while defending the symbol that literally attempted to destroy the country as we know it?”

      Nothing new. Look at our government right now. The top seat in the executive branch is attempting to destroy the country as we know it right now and a lot of the populace is actively helping him do it.

      The difference is that the Civil War was resolved. It’s over. A nod to the past isn’t a bad thing, and they moved the flag to where it is now out of respect for the fact that it SHOULDN’T be on the capitol dome where it WAS before 2000. Try to keep up or else put your head down on the desk and take a nap until the bell rings.

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    • AnAppealToGod
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 3:05am

      PubliusPencilman,

      WOW

      You need a SERIOUS history lesson about the CIVIL WAR. Not what the bs high school books have taught.

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    • Brasil2520
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 3:23am

      An CONSERVATIVE SCIENTIST

      I don’t appreciate your subversive anti-southern statements

      “ICH HAB’S GEWAGT”

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    • texasrose51
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 8:27am

      So true! Why is it everyone in the universe is included in “people of color” except white Europeans!? The NAACP is just one of the many groups that wants to keep “people of color” poor and bitter victims of the past.

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    • hud
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 8:40am

      Naacp playing the stupid card. The flag shown represents the battle flag of the Confederacy. One of two flags engaged in a conflict that cost 600,000 men their lives, many of them negroes. Naacp represents ignorance of the first order.

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    • Jezcruzen
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:04am

      I would much prefer taking the NAACP down, instead. What a racist bunch of vipers!

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    • Linda Vigliotti
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:21am

      Good for Gov. Haley. It is way past time to worry what happened way back when, it is part of our history so live with it. There is more than enough people still crying racist starting in the WH and working it’s way down through the ranks. Stop all this nonsense we need to work on more important things in this state to worry about whether the Confederate Flag is flying at the state capitol.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:00am

      Ha! Looks like I hit a nerve! Unfortunately, no one seems to want to offer a cogent argument other than “blah blah you need to read your history blah blah.” Why is it that you Tea Party-ers like to wave the banner of history, but only have vague silliness to defend yourselves when you are challenged.

      So lets see:
      Southern lawmakers clearly and repeatedly violated the supremacy clause of the Constitution, which states that the Constitution and the laws of the United States are the “supreme law of the land.”
      Southern politicians and military commanders directly attacked the military of the United States of America, leading to a war that cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of Americans.
      What’s more, Southern legislatures established a new government effectively making themselves a foreign country at war with the United States. Therefore, the Confederate flag is a FOREIGN FLAG. Why is it you “patriotic” americans are so eager to allow SC to fly the flag of a foreign country that made war on the US and killed hundreds of thousands of Americans?

      And all of this is beside the point that the Confederacy did not recognize as equal citizens or even as humans the African Americans that currently make up almost 30% of SC’s population.

      For all of those who like to wave the banner of history, you seem remarkably blind to the fact that history goes both ways, and that the atrocities of slavery are as real a part of history as the cause of the Confederacy.

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    • Sheepdog911
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 12:20pm

      African Americans assume that all non-whites love them simply because they aren’t white. The reality of life is that many black immigrants hate African Americans more than African Americans hate whites. The most racist, anti-African American rant I ever heard resulted from my asking two black immigrants what they thought of, or how they related to, African Americans. The resulting discussion between the non-AA blacks would have left a die-hard KKK supporter shocked, including the fact that their own civil rights leaders had led them and sold them back into slavery through welfare and affirmative action – there is no drive to succeed, only to make someone else pay their way through life. Long and short or it was that the first thing they made sure anyone knew and understood that they were not AA, and not to judge them based on previous experience with AAs. SO, guess what NAACP – with the possible exceptions ofmulsims and La Raza members, you are alone in your perception of your world.

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    • AnAppealToGod
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 12:28pm

      PubliusPencilman,

      Coming in here and calling people names isn‘t going to win you the respect that you didn’t deserve to begin with.

      You probably didn’t know in 1864, the CSA began to abandon slavery. The Civil War was NOT about slavery. Read history and follow the money trail. The CSA wanted to be independent more than they wanted to hold on to slavery. Lincoln used the Emancipation Proclamation as a war tactic.

      “If I could preserve the Union by freeing none of the slaves I would do it; if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union.” – Abraham Lincoln

      The flag should stay. It represents an important piece of American History. People like you just want to flush stuff down the toilet because your high school history book told you it was “bad”. Try reading real books based on all facts (even the conveniently left out ones) and not just opinions.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 1:29pm

      Anappealtogod,

      Your complete lack of logic here is baffling. By and large, the problem with folks such as yourself is not that you don‘t know quotations or haven’t read a book–it’s that the conclusions you draw from what you read are bizarre, ahistorical and, above all, completely self-serving.

      So, one simple and quite obvious point is: what the Confederate government was doing in 1864 out of desperation has nothing to do with why the war started in the first place. Your vague assertion that the Confederacy “abandoned” slavery makes no sense for a few reasons.

      1) the word “abandoned” is entirely meaningless. It is, in fact, the rhetoric used by Confederate politicians opposed to the arming of blacks in order to fight for the Confederacy. To arm blacks, they claimed, was the same as “abandoning” slavery.
      Georgia Governor Joseph Brown:
      “When we arm the slaves, we abandon slavery. We can never again govern them as slaves, and make the institution profitable to ourselves or to them, after tens of thousands of them have been taught the use of arms, and spent years in the indolent indulgences of camp life.”

      So you see–this was an argument FOR slavery, by a staunch supporter of the institution.

      2) While the US Constitution does not mention slavery specifically, the CSA Constitution explicitly protects slavery.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 1:51pm

      Mississippi: “Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery– the greatest material interest of the world.”
      Also the second sentences of their declaration.

      South Carolina, citing the recent victories of the Republican Party: “On the 4th day of March next, this party [the Republicans] will take possession of the Government. It has announced that the South shall be excluded from the common territory, that the judicial tribunals shall be made sectional, and that a war must be waged against slavery until it shall cease throughout the United States.”

      Texas: “That in this free government *all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights* [emphasis in the original]; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding states.”

      So, are you convinced?

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    • Searreigh
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 4:41pm

      MikeM,
      If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

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    • AnAppealToGod
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 5:33pm

      PubliusPencilman – Assertions and Facts are two different things. Another fact you didn’t get in your high school education (that clearly has failed you as well as your lack of composing anything of substance) is that Blacks were paid the same amount in the CSA. A lot of them faught proudly and willingly. Speaking of books and constructive talk, try reading this one – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpARRtzU6ek

      Try treating others with a little more respect for a change. Even if you think you are higher and more almighty then everyone. It really only makes you look like a fool.

      I won’t be coming back here to feed your ego. You’ve got yourself to do that right now.

      Good luck!

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 5:58pm

      Anappealtogod,

      I am sorry to hear that you will no longer debate–although I am sure that you would never admit that you are wrong, that is pretty much as close as I’ll get to a concession.

      All you have to come back with is some weak beside-the-point argument that some blacks fought for the Confederacy, and a link to a… Graphic novel????? This is just sad.

      Nothing that you have mentioned about these so-called black confederate soldiers disproves any of the points I’ve made. However, I am familiar with this particular claim, and it is tenuous at best. Feel free to offer some real proof (if you are not too busy running and hiding from a real debate).

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    • cromag11b
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 6:49pm

      John 1776
      But don’t you know its better to rewrite history on the fly to fit the current political environment?

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    • IanWright
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 8:06pm

      pubicpencilman,

      There is nothing to debate here. The civil war was not about slavery. Any person who has actually read and researched the civil war should know this. Besides that for better or for worse both sides fought for God and Country. The flag should stay. It is Dixieland. Get over it ya nutjob.

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    • IanWright
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 8:10pm

      Of course the NAACP is racist. duhhhh

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    • ericthebarbaric
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 9:25pm

      This has been the problem for years. We too are people of color. We are pink!

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    • Master-of-Disaster
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:14pm

      Thread Winner right off the bat!

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  • elvisroy0000
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:30am

    elvisroy0000 i am going to shock you i think he should take it down.then repaint the capitol bldg to look like the confederate flag.elvisroy0000blogspot.com

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  • EdgeOfForever
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:28am

    Well, it the flag is so racist why are there approximately 100,000 blacks that are members of the “Sons of Confederate Veterans”. Slavery was an issue the North used against the South (propaganda) as the North had slaves as well. Only your richest plantations had slaves as the South in general was poor and most people did not have slaves. People also forget and don’t know that when Lincoln signed the “Emancipation Proclamation” it only freed slaves in the South, not the North or Northern controlled southern states. The main agenda for the South was double taxation. They grew the cotton and got taxed. They sent the cotton to England to have it made into textiles and on its return, was taxed again. The South said enough, the North said get over it and then Fort Sumter happened.

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    • Quencher
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:43am

      Good to hear from someone who presents the true cause for the Civil War. The revisionists have presented the Civil War as “The War to Free the Slaves” which it was NOT. The Confederate Flag we see today and that is flying as stated, is a “battle flag” and was NOT the flag of the Confederacy. It properly represents the fallen soldiers over which it flies. ——-So much for the school system in our country and so much for the LAZY, LameStream Press!

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:00pm

      I posted this reply to someone else.. meant for you… The NAACP needs to actually KNOW history before they try to ignore or change it. Some people have suggested that as many as 30,000 blacks took on the uniform and actually fought for the South! http://civilwargazette.wordpress.com/2008/03/13/did-blacks-fight-in-combat-for-the-confederacy/

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    • ozkmtnrbl
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 1:30pm

      I am glad that there are still people who still care about the reality behind the civil war. Abraham Lincoln was the closest thing to a tyrant this country has seen, and it is absurd to hold him up as a champion of the blacks. Prior to issuing the Emancipation Proclamation, he allowed every northern state to pass laws banning freed blacks from living in them, and in some cases like Illinois from even passing through them. He was a politician, pure and simple, and a liar. Here is a quote from his inaugural address that illustrates what a hypocrite he was; ” Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government and form up a new one. This is a most valuable and sacred right- a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world.” He then ordered Kansas Regular and militia troops into Missouri in order to block ratification of Secession, and in the process many farmers, women, and children were killed. Want more hypocrisy? In the same address, we see this jewel, “Resolved, That the maintenance inviolate of the rights of the states, and especially the right of each state to order and control its own domestic institutions according to its own judgement exclusively, is essential to that balance of power on which the perfection and endurance of our political fabric depend: and we denounce the lawless invasion by armed force of the soil of any State or Territory, no matter what pretext, as the gravest of cri

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    • starman70
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 1:41pm

      Slavery never has been, is not and never will be right!

      The Civil War wasn’t mainly about slavery, as many of the ultra liberal textbook writers and publishers would have you think, it was about STATES RIGHTS along with the double taxation issue. The Southern States didn’t want the Federal Government interfering with how they ran their states. (A lesson we need to relearn today.) Slavery as such was used by the north as a rallying point to garner public opinion for the war effort just as the ultra libs are trying to use it today.

      The “Confederate Flag” displayed on the capitol grounds in South Carolina is the Confederate Battle Flag and represents ALL southern soldiers, both black and white.(Many African Americans fought for the south and many died heroic deaths defending the cause.) The flag is a reminder of a tragic war. It is also a strong reminder to all citizens, North, South, East, West, Black, White, Asian that we must never allow slavery to rear its ugly head again anywhere in the world.

      The NAACP should let the flag stand as a reminder for future generations of a chapter of history that many Americans would rather forget.

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  • drattastic
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:27am

    Millions of Black Americans addicted to the entitlement state and the democrat party happy to keep them as poor and obedient as sheep, no real future and their leaders like them that way .70+ % of black babies born to unwed mothers with the government acting as daddy ,black youth awash in gangsta culture where their lives are cheap and so are yours. Cities run by democrats and the likes of Jealous and Sharpton and Jackson for decades yet somehow nothing has gotten better but worse. Oh yeah Ben Jealous the real problem is the Confederate Flag ,getting it removed will fix everything. Keep them outraged and pointed at everything but you and your ilk.

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    • Master Sergeant Malone
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:33am

      Yo Drat….no truer words. Preach on brother!!!! Great stuff!!!!

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    • drattastic
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:57am

      @ Master Sergeant Malone
      Thanks my friend but more importantly THANK YOU for YOUR SERVICE .

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    • sfcscott
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:18pm

      God bless ya drat, you give me hope that all is not lost yet, keep up the great comments.

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    • drattastic
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:58pm

      @SFCSCOTT
      I don’t feel all is lost ,I think the worm is turning and WE will get this country back on track If SFC stands for Sergeant First Class then I know You’re Ready and Able to do whatever heavy lifting is necessary to make that happen. I know “We” current or former Military have our heads screwed on tight.

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    • starman70
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 2:03pm

      BEAUTIFUL POST!!!!! We still have slavery. The black Americans who are enslaved to the government welfare state. Enslaved to the government for food, shelter, medical care and a host of other enslavement programs, all designed to perpetuate the feeling of hopelessness among the receiptants of the welfare and keep them under the thumbs of the Democrat’s oligarchy. This also insures the re-election of these rulers of the enslaved for fear that they might lose their free tickets.

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    • EdgeOfForever
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 4:21pm

      Amen!

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    • crapgame
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 10:45pm

      Drat, You are truly a wise man, and all that read Your words, are wiser for having done so. I thank You Sir.

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    • An AmericanMom
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 10:55am

      True words!
      People need to take responsibility of their our actions…… and stop blaming the past….I wasn’t alive back in the Civil War nor were you so why should I still carry blame for slavery?

      I don’t blame you for my Grandma being robbed at knife point by a black person, 40 years ago….this race baitors are the worse…THEY SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH hate crimes!

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    • 65Mustang
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 11:46am

      I agree with you totally.

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  • 48vintage
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:26am

    The U.S. stars and stripes flag flew for over 80 years over our nation while we had slavery – the Confederate flag flew for only 4 years 1861~1865 during the Civil War . . which flag promoted Slavery more?

    I don’t see why the Confederate Battle Flag is being singled out, and no one says anything about the real Confederate Flag. The Battle flag was only adopted to eliminate confusion between it and the U.S. flag on the battlefield

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  • Vernon Black
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:21am

    620,000 People Died in the Civil War on all sides…That flag commemorates those who lost their lives from the losing side…Can‘t those Soul’s have at least that much respect??

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  • kapnkd
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:18am

    Stand firm Nikki!!! We’ve ALL had enough of this “PC” garbage and especially those belonging to the NAACP!! THEY are the ones who are actually the bi goted ra ci sts!

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  • armywife77
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:16am

    Heritage Not Hate. Let’s hope the NAACP starts caring about real issues that face African-Americans, such as the extremely high abortion rate, the high unemployment rate, the pathetic public schools in poor-urban areas, the high rate of single mothers, the drug/crime problems in african-american communities, and the large percentage of African-Americans on public assistance.

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  • bill oswald
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:16am

    If the Black population would study their history books they would find out that 95% of confederate soldiers did not own slaves and just fought for the south, period.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:51am

      That’s true but the problem is the books they read were written and approved by progressives,people who engaged in revisionist history.They have an interest in showing America in a bad light,we‘re the cause of all the world’s problems and progressives are just informing us how bad we are,it’s all BS
      what they’ve spewed over the years.Fly the flag if the naacp or anyone else doesn’t like it too bad.

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    • Av8tor056
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:21pm

      Bill, you’re mostly correct. The majority of the Southern soldiers didn’t fight for the South though…they actually fought for their State. Virginian’s fought for Virginia, Georgia fought for Georgia, and so on. I don’t think that same spirit existed in the North. They fought to preserve the Union.

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  • teacherskj
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:15am

    While the Confederate flag is part of U.S. and South Carolina history, it is not good history. It should not be flying anywhere near any state capital. Imagine if it was so worthy that the President thought it should fly over the capitol building in D.C. What would people say? Should the Nazi flag fly near the capital building in Germany because it historical? The confederate flag is a symbol of divisiveness and exclusionary thought. This message should be desplayed prominently next to the flying the flag on the same grounds.

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    • MinnesotaMARINE
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:40am

      It is HISTORY So leave it intact and face what we have done as a country ALL OF IT good and bad.Unless you would like to “change our history”. Like Michelle Oboma tells us that the king (Barack) must do.

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    • Whostolemypig
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:44am

      The naacp will have a hissy fit about silently flying a flag, but NEVER do the condemn these modern day black racist yelling kill whitey. So do the democratic thing and compromise. Just run a New Black Panther up the flag pole.

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:49am

      AS much as we don’t like this part of our HISTORY, you can’t just CHANGE it or forget it.. you can only LEARN from it. Those who died in that war were just soldiers doing what they thought was right at the time. Hindsight is 20/20. Remember or repeat the mistakes of the past. Be PROUD of what the end result was for us as a Nation.

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    • SCgunner
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:02pm

      divisiveness and exclusionary? that sounds exactly like our president.

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  • kuhl
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:12am

    A racist organization calling for an end to something they say is racist. I don’t believe there are white, Latino, Oriental or American Indian members of the NAACP….Nuf said?

     
  • Fiddlesoup
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:10am

    That’s not the Confederate Flag. The Confederacy had three flags: “Stars
    and Bars” which resembled the original U.S. Flag but had three stripes, and 7-13 stars. Second, “The Stainless Banner” which had the flag up there (a battle flag) in the upper left corner of a white field. Finally, “The Bloodstained Banner” adopted just before their defeat added a single vertical red stripe to the right side of the previous design.
    Personally, I’d prefer it if none of these flags were flown, but that doesn’t mean I can force that on others.

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    • the_ancient
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:16am

      Actually your right and wrong..

      You right in the description of the flags but they had more that 3 flags

      The flag shown in the photo is a Alteration of the Confederate Navy Jack Flag or Battle Flag.

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    • Fiddlesoup
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:28am

      @The_Ancient
      Yeah I actually know about the other battle flags, I was just covering the three main official flags. I’m writing these messages on my iPhone from a line for a ride in EPCOT. Didn‘t mean to imply there weren’t others.

      Also, to clarify, I don’t believe that people who like those flags are racist, I was just expressing my personal preference.

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    • blkold7
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:08pm

      Check this before you decide which flag is which

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America#Battle_Flag

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  • RootsOfTruth
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:09am

    The flag is a reminder to all of our history with slavery. This is just another attempt to erase our history so the people forget.

    Thank you Gov Haley for letting the flag fly!

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  • Napkin
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:08am

    Right off hand, I can’t think of any Confederate slave ships.

    If memory serves…..most slaves were sold in the Northern states, where the flag of the United States was flying. :)

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    • 1proudAmerican
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:30am

      The slave ships were from Portugal. So many people think that Americans went to Africa for slaves and brought them back here. Why do we get blamed when the Portuguese started it?

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    • Fly Old Glory 24/7 365
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:24pm

      yeah well, I heard that it was George Bush‘s ancestors that owned all the ships therefore it is George Bush’s fault…. :)

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    • 59 Fender Pro
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 5:22pm

      Actually Obammy’s ancestors owned those ships, but it was Bush’s fault because his great grand daddy left Kenya in a recession.

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  • loadingmyclips
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:07am

    screw haley, screw india, hang gandi. who cares the stars and bars is ours. Fly it with pride!! The fall of the South was the worst event in our history.

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    • kuhl
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:10am

      Perhaps you misread the article. Its says Halee will NOT remove the flag. Read before posting.

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    • The Big Pickle
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:13am

      Shut up NAACP!

      Demand Segregation Now!!!!

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    • teacherskj
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:18am

      He didn’t misread. He is hung up on dehumanizing one group over another and the confederate flag is his emblem of authority to believe so.

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    • Vernon Black
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:20am

      620,000 People Died in the Civil War on all sides…That flag commemorates those who lost their lives from the losing side…Can‘t you grant those Soul’s at least that much respect??

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    • Fly Old Glory 24/7 365
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:32pm

      I don‘t think he read it cause I’m not sure he is smart enough to read. FYI to all Blazers. This guys post is the sentiment and education level of a lot of ppl here in SC. They are still fighting the war.

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    • concealled9mms
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 1:39pm

      I think you should reread the article you are not writing down anything that makes sense

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    • freethinker52
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:40pm

      why are you loading your clips? I hope you are not planning any type of terrorist attack.

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  • Southernguy
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:06am

    Boo hoo hoo, y’all need to get a life and let the past go.

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    • flagbearer
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:28am

      It is not a question of letting go of the past. Even Abraham Lincoln said, “Poor is the nation that has no heroes, but beggared is the nation that has heroes and forgets them.” This attempt to discredit and disgrace the South is abhorrent. The flags were never seen as symbols of slavery. If that is the case, then so is the U.S. flag, as there were four slave states that remained in and fought for the Union. So, is it also a symbol of slavery? Ulysses S. Grant owned slaves. There were NY businessmen who owned plantations in the South, especially around Natchez. If you choose to see these flags as symbols of slavery, you are just showing ignorance. The attack on this flag is nothing more than one more little shove or nudge to move the political window so that eventually things will become the norm. They attack the flags of the South now, but don’t doubt for one moment that the U. S. flag is next on the agenda. Don’t take this threat and attack lightly. Stand firm and resist.

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    • freedom_gurl35
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:49pm

      There’s an old saying: “Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.” I suggest you take this to heart and open a history book.

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    • Southernguy
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 12:37am

      @ FREEDOM_GURL35: History is a hobby of mine. I don’t need to go study it.

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    • Southernguy
      Posted on July 31, 2011 at 12:43am

      @FREEDOM_GURL35: Oh, and being from south Mississippi, I can assure you that I know way more about racial tensions than you do. If you’d bothered to read my comment in context with the article, you would have seen that I was addressing it to the idiots that want the flag brought down. PS: I fly one in my front yard, right under Old Glory ;)

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:04am

    Hey Nikki, fly the Christian flag on the other side of the building and really make them flip.

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    • Southernguy
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:06am

      Now that’s a good idea!

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    • flagbearer
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:18am

      And remind them that there is now a gay flag flying in Richmond, VA, at the Federal Reserve Building. Tell them when it comes down and all the others across this nation, including those of La Raza, they might have some room to make demands–but not until then

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  • Charb
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:04am

    I find it hilarious that the the president of the NAACP is Jealous.

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    • TennesseeConservative
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:49pm

      If this is S.C. only problem, then they have no problems. Free speech my foot. You are only free to speak if you are atheist, black, mexican, or sexually perverted. The rest of Y’all move on.

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  • cookcountypatriot
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:03am

    people like ben jealous are perpetually stuck on stupid..the flag stays..lol

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  • Southernguy
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:02am

    Stand your ground son, it’s just a flag.

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  • Cemoto78
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:02am

    Is there ever going to be an end to the NAACP and it’s continual use of the “race card” in everything it does and says. This organization does nothing to promote the betterment of their members, but is there to maintain their status quo, akin to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, and play off of injustices which occurred decades and centuries ago. The NAACP would like nothing better than to keep race a divisional issue in society in order for their leaders to get rich off of pushing their propaganda.

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    • Southernguy
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:05am

      That’s all those people know to do ;) And yes, I said “those people”.

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    • Ready2Rumble
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 9:25pm

      The NAA(L)CP, Jesse Jackson Inc., and Crown Heights Al simply don’t know what to do. At one time, they were civil rights crusaders….now they are simply worthless, racebaiting, poverty pimps and RICO artists. They are are stuck in a time warp….to them it’s still 1965 and there are fire hoses, dogs, and batons coming their way. They are so steeped in racial politics that, now that racial inequalities have by and large been erased, they don’t what to do. Well, they *could* address the problems of illegimacy, illiteracy, drugs, feral children, lack of morality, violence, hopelessness, and government dependence in their community, but it is just easier to point the finger at someone else, isn’t it?

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  • mrsmileyface
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:01am

    Years before I was against the flying of the “Stars and Bars” because of my strong belief that since the “North” (my side) won. We should get the spoils and they would have to remove the flag of defeat. But now since its making the NAACP go wacky crazy insane. Heck they can keep flying it as far as im conserned.

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    • the_ancient
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:12am

      Umm, they do not fly the “Stars and Bars”, the flag known as the “Stars and Bars” is a Flag very similar to Old Glory, except only having 3 Bars (instead of 13) and 13 stars (instead of 50)

      the Flag in question here is an alteration of the Confederate Nave Jack Flag or a Rectangular Version of the Confederate Battle Flag

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    • sWampy
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:17am

      The wrong side won the civil war period, the entire civil war was over the rich northern liberals being upset that the south no longer need their factories on fast moving northern rivers to manufacture cotton into finished goods, saw timber, etc since the steam engine had been invented. Then like now, they saw the wealth leaving the red states flooding to the blue states, the power mongers in the north used the same techniques Obama is using now to work up the morons in the blue state so they hate the people in the red states. Let‘s hope the new battle doesn’t end with the blue states killing 1/2 them men in the red states, raping most of the women above 10, stealing everything they can steal, and burning what they can’t like last time.

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    • flagbearer
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:43am

      @Swampy
      I do believe that if Robert E. Lee could have seen into the future that he would have fought to the very last man. I also believe that Lincoln, Ulysses S. Grant, and many other Union soldiers and generals would have very different stances. Our nation has lost its moral, political, and financial compasses, all of which would greatly disturb and disappoint them in us, their posterity. The South was wrong on some things, but so right on others.

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  • Mess23
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:00am

    Let’s take this one step further and dissolve the Democrat party because they supported the KKK.

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  • sWampy
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 10:58am

    NCAAP and ACLU must be charged and tried for the crimes against freedom and crimes they commit daily the people of the United States.

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    • MBA
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:20am

      There’s a name for what the democratic party and their followers are doing–treason. The politicians just have no stomach to call a spade a spade. Although I think Gov. Haley could. Good work.

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  • knockered
    Posted on July 30, 2011 at 10:56am

    Stop crying racism and move on with life, isn’t it about time. Slavery happened many years ago and all those people are gone now. Wake up and live life instead of blaming everybody else..just saying

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    • whatthecrazy
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:03am

      Not going to happen they are never going to give it up no matter what. Im sure one hundred years from now we wil still be hearing this crap.Cant win for losing.

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    • BlazingPatriot
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:03am

      Stand Fast ….Keep flying the flag and don’t give in to the minority.

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    • NancyBee
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:11am

      Gov. Haley…….keep up the good work…….I’m with you! This crazy stuff has to stop….

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