Speaker Boehner Pulls Out of Talks for ‘Big Deal’ Debt Plan
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Speaker John Boehner is pulling out of negotiations for a large-scale deficit reduction plan.
In a statement released by the Ohio Republican Saturday night — just a day before talks with President Barack Obama — Boehner said the “White House will not pursue a bigger debt reduction agreement without tax hikes.”
After speaking with Obama — who is hosting a key meeting Sunday evening on steps forward on the debt issue — Boehner issued the following statement:“Despite good-faith efforts to find common ground, the White House will not pursue a bigger debt reduction agreement without tax hikes. I believe the best approach may be to focus on producing a smaller measure, based on the cuts identified in the Biden-led negotiations, that still meets our call for spending reforms and cuts greater than the amount of any debt limit increase.”
Mr. Boehner and the president met privately at the White House last weekend and the speaker along with the president was a chief advocate of trying to negotiate a large agreement that would include spending cuts, new tax revenues and significant changes to social programs such as Medicare and Medicaid and perhaps even Social Security.
But the speaker, who had suggested Congress could perhaps produce as much as $1 trillion in new revenues, was encountering stiff resistance from fellow Republicans who are determined not to support any package containing proposals that could be construed as a tax increase.
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ontheclock247
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:39pmHow many times can you reach across an aisle and get an arm bitten off before you learn not to reach across that aisle? No compromise! Come on Boehner! This was your first “right” move! No more golf outings. No more talks. No more reaching across the aisle. No more linguini for a spine. Stand firm and represent the people who allowed you to be where you are!
Report Post »bjt141
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 10:43pmhahahahaha yeah represent the people, that 1% at the top, woooooooo……….you people are absurd
Report Post »coryf076
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:38pmhow did he go from 4 to 2 trillion? is that not a cave?
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on July 10, 2011 at 7:58amI don’t have a problem with a tax hike as long as it goes hand in hand with a major debt reduction AND is used properly and not for entitlements or more of MOOcheles vacations.
Report Post »Lone Star Girl
Posted on July 10, 2011 at 5:09pmNot a cave yet. Only a cave if they go for new taxes or raise the debt ceiling more than what they cut.
The problem I see is this: We are out of time! Americans debating the proper role of government is no longer a luxury we can afford. For all practical purposes, America is a car – speeding towards the edge of a cliff. The Democrats have the foot on the gas, confident that the cliff is not real; while Republicans are too focused on meaningless gestures like the recent 38 billion dollar cut in spending, to know how to bring the car to a stop short of the cliff. The issue is that without an extreme change in course there is no longer enough time to stop. It makes little difference to the ultimate result of the crash if we as a nation have the gas pedal pressed to the floor or if we simply coast over the edge. Either way America is a burning wreck at the bottom. Geithner pretends that the world will stop spending if the debt ceiling is not raised but I am not convinced. It is the only tool that responsible legislators have to stop the madness. The Feds should pay the debt service first, and then prioritize all other expenses. Some things will not get paid and that is fine. It will be incentive for the thieves of the political class to find what to cut to make ends meet. If the administration believes that we are unable to even pay for debt service out of receipts to the treasury then we are bankrupt now and should face that fact.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:38pmGovernment programs are like adding software programs to your pc. One doesn’t even use all the programs, but yet keeps them on the pc anyway. Eventually, the hard drive fills up, and crash.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 11:55pmThe democraps love ‘Baseline Budgeting’. That way funding for their socialist programs increases automatically by a predetermined amount every year, and it provides them cover since they don’t have to vote on it. The programs get funded, regardless of whether or not they are functioning as intended, actually need that amount of funding, or the funding is available. If we were only funding constitutional programs, we would have no budget problems and taxes would be reasonable.
Report Post »alansills
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:37pmmaybe i mis-read boehner’s comments…but it sounds to me like he IS caving. whats this nonsense about $2trillion in cuts proposed by that idiot Biden? Why is he even in ANY agreement with Biden??
Report Post »chips1
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:52pmI read it the same way as you. Somethings not right. My gut feelings have saved me many times and I have that same old feeling.
Report Post »HollyPolly
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 10:31pmI agree with you. But maybe I misunderstood the message he is sending. The fact that Biden’s name was mentioned sent a RED FLAG up for me.
Report Post »Workforit
Posted on July 10, 2011 at 2:31amSmells like politics as usual to me… Somebody‘s cutting a deal somewhere and you can bet we aren’t going get a cut…
Report Post »NightWriter
Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:59pmI think Boeher is right in taking it slowly. O is w-a-ay to quick to jump in with this ‘new’ 4 trillion. Something is not right. The last ‘cuts’ the Dems made were nothing but smoke and mirrors… and they spent on.
I for one, would like to see these ‘negotiations’ done out in the open. As it is now, we just have to ‘try to believe’ what these politicians are telling us.
How’s that been working out for us?
Report Post »101
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:35pmAnd Boehner went Wee Wee Wee all the way home…“look we tried” (Dog & Pony Show)
Report Post »I Stand With Israel
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:34pmThe first thing any of us should do is pray, then we should email or call the speaker’s office and let him know he is finally on the same page as the people, and encouage him. He is up against alot of corrupt, back biting liberals who will lie, lie, lie to get what they want, and to make the people mad. The last thing this man needs is for his supporters to start kicking him. Please let him know.
Report Post »Giri
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:34pmThe Speaker is right in pulling out of the “Big Deal” Debt Plan talks. It is the Dem’s way of sneaking in tax hikes. The Dems can only see higher taxes at every turn. They like to spend other people’s wealth.
Report Post »Hawke17
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 10:30pmYOU ARE EIITHER rich or an idiot …..i say you are an idiot
Report Post »runajam1
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 11:08pmGIRI I say you are one of us, middle class, who have a clue about Obama’s trickle up poverty foolishness.
Report Post »Joker50
Posted on July 11, 2011 at 2:23pmI agree with you GIRI
Report Post »FAL Guy
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:32pmYou never know with the likes of Michele Bachmann and Paul Ryan maybe the GOP will hold strong. The again with the lame stream media conducting biased polls (based mostly in the Northeast), which for some reason many in GOP still pay attention to, that show holding firm on the debt to be unpopular the Republicans just might cave.
Report Post »Hawke17
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 10:29pmyou are a liar ….the polls are based on the entire country …… you people will believe anything …..your country is going down …….BIN LADEN IS WINNING ….THE USA IS BANKRUPT …..LOL
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 11:39pmThe only purpose for most polls is to propagandize and influence.
Report Post »freedoc
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:32pmBoehner: Human Invertebrate.
Report Post »freedoc
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:31pmHrmm.
Let me restate that: It will be viewed as nothing more than a stunt.
Boehner needs to either support the Ryan initiative or clearly propose a Balanced Budge Amendment as part of any deal—-or come up with more than ‘minor cuts’ agreed to thru Biden’s negotiations. His tacit agreement to ‘tax cuts’ is a cop out.
This is really a failure on his part, and it will be spun and derided by all. Mr. Speaker has paid nothing but lip-service to real spending reform, and its gonna cost HIM, US and the American people, in the end.
Report Post »ILUVAMERICA
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:36pmWhy the “Balanced Budget Amendment” is a Hoax – and a Deadly Traphttp://questioningwithboldness.wordpress.com/2011/06/28/why-the-%E2%80%9Cbalanced-budget-amendment%E2%80%9D-is-a-hoax-%E2%80%93-and-a-deadly-trap-by-publius-huldah/
Report Post »Stopit
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 10:22pm@ILUVAMERICA…Hogwash! A balanced budget amendment can be passed without legitimizing unconstitutional income streams or authorizing enhanced presidential powers over the purse strings.
Report Post »Look4DBigPicture
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:30pmGood move Boehner! Stay strong – we’re all behind you.
Report Post »Joshua7
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:30pmI really hope the republicans know what they’re doing.
Either way, I don’t expect much from this congress or even after the 2012 elections. It’s oging to be a long while with a lot of effort from the citizens of America before things truely change up in D.C.
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:30pmI think Boehner is feeling MAJOR HEAT from conservatives. Heck, he or staffers of his read The Blaze. They know that if they went into The White House and came out of there having given EVEN AN INCH to Obama, their arses would be fried. Let’s see if Boehner and the others have courage enough to hold the line. Of course, if default occurs, agenda driven leftist media will put the blame on Republicans but that has to be expected. They had better stand up to it and NOT CAVE!
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:28pmBoehner’s playing us like a knock-off Stradivarius.
He and his worthless RINO’s will cave, but they’ll do everything they can to spin it into a positive with fuzzy math – something like big dollar cuts, but they’ll be stretched over so many years that they essentially will not be cuts.
I’ll say it again: It’s gonna take at least another election cycle before these idiots get it, as well as about 50% of Americans – obviously much to my chagrin.
Report Post »DaytonConserve
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:26pmSpeaker Boehner is staking his reputation on this one and I for one do not believe he will cave on something this important. Way to go John, hold their feet to the fire. Cut, cut, cut!
Report Post »EgoBrain
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:51pmHe’s caving. Again.
Report Post »ronmorgen
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:53pmHe’s doing just what we wanted him to do, cut spending so as to reduce the debt. This is the platform all the tea party favorites are standing on. Good for him. Keep it up.
Report Post »Stopit
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 10:07pmCUT CUT CUT compromiser with the communists, big government RINO Boehner from the Congress you dimwits up there in OHIO. If he was for CUT CUT CUT, there would be NO DEBT LIMIT INCREASE PERIOD!
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 10:14pmThe ONLY Statement from the “Bohener Gang” should have been, “OK this is pointless, so we’re shutting the whole “NEGOTIATIONS DOWN” No Debt Ceiling increase, No tax increases, No Revenue Enhancements. Mr. President, go draw up YOUR BUDGET based on the Status Quo and submit it to the House. And we will take a look at it, when we have time to read all 125,000 pages of it.”
BUT, that won’t happen, simply because there would be just as many “CONSERVATIVES” with their HAIR ON FIRE in D.C. as there would be “COMMUNISTS”. There ARE NOT, TWO DIFFERENT SIDES in D.C. with the American People in the middle. THEY are ALL on the SAME SIDE, trying to ENSLAVE ALL the REST OF US. And it’s WORKING.
Report Post »Stopit
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 10:16pm& RonMorgan…ALSO, this is no cut in spending. It a reduction in the INCREASES IN PROJECTED SPENDING.
Report Post »cous1933
Posted on July 10, 2011 at 12:38amDayton,
Report Post »It’s nice that you have some confidence in your representatives but I promise you that the Republicans will cave in and allow the debt ceiling to be raised. They will gloss it over with talk of compromise and spending cuts (that in reality are less than meaningless) and it is all a farce. Both parties are complicit in this financial mess we’re in. They both are controlled completely by the Federal Reserve because that’s who holds the purse strings. The Fed is an unconstitutional privately owned and operated cartel that has been lining their pockets with taxpayer money for almost a hundred years with the full cooperation of Republicans and Democrats. The sad thing is that very very few of the taxpayers have any awareness of what is happening to them. Trust me, this debt ceiling debate is all for show. It will be raised because 100% of this nations economy, every last penny, is backed by nothing but debt.
Stopit
Posted on July 10, 2011 at 10:34amI apologize to Ohioians & DaytonConserve. Signed off right away after posting because of my bad attitude and being weary.
Report Post »BobParker2003
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:26pmBig Bad John. Hold up the mine John you’re doing a great job!
Report Post »Clarion Caller
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:25pmSound like Boehner needs another spine transplant….FAST !
Report Post »smartgirl
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:24pmDoesn’t take a smart girl: Stop spending. Now.
Report Post »normbal
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:23pmSo this is his prelude to caving in to the boy king’s demands?
Report Post »frustratedwithgovt
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:22pmI’m not confident that the conservatives will hold the line. But I hope, I pray, that they do. Its potentially painful but we have to stop the ponzi scheme at some point. If not now then when?
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:22pmIf the GOP caves they are finished as a national party. More and more candidates will be identifying themselves with the Tea Party and fewer with the GOP.
Report Post »Salamander
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 11:02pmSounds to me like the GOP needs a good house cleaning, too!
Report Post »EyeofthePatriot
Posted on July 10, 2011 at 2:31amIts too bad… I really really want and wish the Tea Party to stay as a watchdog for the Republicans. I will NEVER believe that a third party can win a National Election. There are just far too many people that vote for that stupid ass ‘R’… then the people like us that would vote for the “TEA”… and the Dems run with it.
Report Post »BehindBlueEyes
Posted on July 10, 2011 at 6:08amThe progressives would like nothing better to see a third party candidate to split the vote. That would virtually guaranty the re-election of Obama. He would then finish fundamental transformation of America (aka destruction of America).
Report Post »Then its on to the new world order. That’s where Soros says “America we find its place in the new world order. I’m sure Soros has a place reserved for America in his new kingdom.
BobEd
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:21pmYep, the Republicans will cave and here is why:
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/07/09/why-republicans-will-cave-on-the-debt-ceiling/
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:32pmIts do or die time.
Report Post »I’ve never seen dems cave on ANYTHING. Ever.
Why should the Repubs ? How difficult it is for Rs to be united in their actions, for once in their lifetime atleast. Idiot RINOs , always ready to ruin the country to please the libtwerds .
For once Repubs, do the right thing. Let the Ds be responsible for their decisions. Don’t give them a reason to come back and say this when the country goes to hell :
“but the Republicans supported it ”
ILUVAMERICA
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:32pm@BobEd
Report Post »THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT INFO and rhe new place for the REAL news!
$ick&Tired
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:33pmI have never been a birther but that makes just enough sense to be scary.
Report Post »brewer55
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:45pmSorry, but that is a totally absurd assertion. I cannot in my wildest imagination see that as one bit plausible.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:45pm@BobEd:
Thanks, this is the one time the conservatives have the fed’s over the barrel with a barbell attached to them, and they are going to give it all away for empty promises.
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Grandmadar
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:51pmthis makes a lot of sense……and if it does happen or is true – we are in for a big mess. Well, we are anyway. If the Prez actually announces his illegitimacy and does it publicly, he will laugh straight in our faces.
So what‘s this about the new law that didn’t go thru Congress that on July 15th it will be illegal to buy or trade gold or silver??? Anyone read or hear anymore about this?
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:18pmI guess he must have learned the old addage, “When you argue with a fool, no one can tell either apart”
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:17pmRepublicans who are determined not to support any package containing proposals that could be construed as a tax increase.
Report Post »—
A big muuuuuuuaaaaaah to all of you :D
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:21pmNo new Axes! Wait that’s the capital one commercial.
Dealing with Dems is like dealing with a big pile of poo, all you do is get stink all over you and no one wants to come near you after.
Report Post »MEESHEL
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:26pmHear Hear Darmok
Report Post »randy
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:16pmI still think the RINOS will cave
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:18pmI think so too .
Report Post »They are too eager to see Obama succeed in his plans
MEESHEL
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:25pmI’m nervous they will cave.. but gotta hand it to boehner this time… maybe… just maybe… he has the backbone to do this. Wish he was a strong(armed) as Palosi…
Report Post »million
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:27pmThey need one more day on the links and Obama will have Boehner sobbing to the tune of $2trillion in new spending along with false dept reductions.Obama is a long legged smack daddy flim flamman and Boehner is blinded by the spot light he has forever pined for.
Report Post »Tea anybody ?
Pelling1020
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:29pmNo doubt in my mind! OB loves the RINOS.
Report Post »PrfctlyFrank
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:34pmThey’re all cowards still.. The guys that get on board for this will get taken apart.. Why do we talk the truth, while the democrats scream lies?? Why is it that Chris Christie, as a new Governor, tells the unions to go to hell, and anybody else that challenges what he knows is right, and gains national recognition and popularity, while the rest of the Republican party wets itself in the corner for fear they’re going to make somebody mad?? I am sick and tired of spineless idiot rinos and democrats screwing our Nation up unchallenged!! I am tired of the game being more important than the consequences of those the game does damage to.. When conservatives stand up and scream truth, things will change but with players like boehner in there, ain’t gonna happen..
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:34pmReduce the debt by 3/4 and taxes set at no more than a flat 10%
Report Post »right-wing-waco
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:36pmAnyone that votes to increase the debt ceiling 1 cent must be voted out in 2012.
Report Post »the hawk
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 9:59pmCut spending ! Bring home troops ! LAY OFF COPS and TEACHERS ! FLAT TAX FOR ALL !
Report Post »Close IRS ! cut ATF, DEA, EPA BY 50% CUT TSA ! CLOSE NLRB-COMMIES, PRIVATIZE TSA CUT CORP,tAXES 1/2 % BELOW LOWEST ON PLANET ! CLOSE BORDERS WITH TROOPS! MEXICAN ILLEGALS WILL NEVER BE LOYAL TO U.S. Deport everyone not willing to give up their allegiance’s to any other country!
tHAT IS WHAT AMERICA IS ! AND TRUE AMERICANS WE WILL NEVER SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS! ! ! ! ! tell BOHNER,McCONNEL,BACHMAN, repPAUL AND HIS PAPA ! McCAIN ALL OF YOU ! ! !
TELL THEM NO -NO -NO- ! IF THEY DO ALL THOSE CUTS THEY’LL HAVE PLENTY ! ! !
AND STOP OBAMMA FROM GIVING ANYMORE OF HIS BUDDIES RAISES! NO EXEC ORDERS!
LAWS MUST BE MADE BY CONGRESS AND SENATE not self involved aginences ! ! !
PeterThePainter
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 10:03pmBoehner was placed there as speaker of the house for a reason…..go golf with the Pres. He is not a advocate of the Constituion or at a minimum trying to resolve the direction this Country is headed. Not one TV is made here, nor a DVD, Cell Phone and little furniture or steel products. They are made where labor is paid sometimes 17 cents an hour…..O yes…let us compete. This adminsitration wants high unemployment, declining home prices and high food/gas/energy prices to break the sysrem. GM, on the tax payers dime just opened up a plant in Mexico at 500 million, How many Pontiac are made in Canada. Here in Calif. Brown gave the Prison Gaurds “carte blanch” for their benefits and retirement. In California….earthquake country, we have one desalination water plant that is active. There are over 15,000 worldwide. If San francisco had and earthquake….Southern California would be done. Well maybe thats what they want. There is talk about separating the elititled in San Fran and making So Cal a separate State. Gotta wonder about the people in power.
Report Post »Hawke17
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 10:38pmPRFCTLYFRANK
hey idiot ….obama beats the fat man of NJ …55 to 34 in the POTUS polls ……LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Report Post »the fat man will be toast next election in NJ
jb.kibs
Posted on July 9, 2011 at 10:55pmi don’t understand who lets their children raise their credit card limit, let alone get a credit card without their consent. just saying.. it’s a complete scam.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on July 10, 2011 at 1:38amIf they do .. they seal their own fate!
http://patriotupdate.com/videos/limbaugh-obama-re-elected-if-gop-caves-on-debt-ceiling
TEA!
Report Post »junkmaninohio
Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:18amThey already caved. Boehner has sold us out again. Can’t fix stupid.
Report Post »Sr Newk
Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:57amWe will see Boehner crying again when he is at his next re-election campaign, but the crying won’t be about becoming Speaker of the House, his crying will be because he won’t be returning to Washington DC.
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