State Controlled Eating-Put Down Your Fork Or Fork Over Your Cash; AZ Gov Brewer Proposes New Fat Tax
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amerbur
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:04pmThis is unbelievable. In fact it is so offensive that whom ever proposed it should voted out of office. Shall we also tax a..holes in government who waste taxpayers money.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 6:53pmI sure eventually they will tax everybody’s a..hole.
Report Post »Cowboy
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 12:26pmIt is actually just a reasonable response to the state being forced to pay for people’s health care according to federal laws….
Report Post »JC5295
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:04pmSee, it isn’t a bad “intention.” I believe that laws like these need to be worked on but to fine someone because they are overweight is basically saying, “Yes, let’s let the government control every aspect about us.” I don’t believe its fair that people on welfare can receive as much as they do, and can buy all the stuff they buy, but change laws on that because welfare is something the government can control, not weight.
Report Post »Cowboy
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 12:30pmThe federal government has already limited freedoms related to health care. Governor Brewer’s recommendation is actually a reasonable response to federal intervention and being constantly dragged into court by the feds. Your objection should be to the federal intervention.
Report Post »5410amh
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:03pmI used to like Gov Brewer but not anymore.
Report Post »concealled9mms
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:11pmme too but not anymore
Report Post »mrsmileyface
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 8:24amJeckel and Hyde syndrome. What happened Gov. Brewer?
Report Post »Cowboy
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 12:32pmYou like paying more for other people’s decisions about their life style?
Report Post »GRANNYMOO
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:01pmI like the Gov. BUT, I hate new taxes anywhere!
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 10:07amWould it be more palatable if it was termed a “penalty”? What if it was deemed a “premium” for those who choose to engage in clearly unhealthy Iand therefore more expensive) behavior?
Report Post »biffo
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:01pmDrug test them and make them provide services for their (our) money. Just like we taxpayers. I am sick of seeing morbidly obese people in wheel chairs rolling up to the supermarket checkout with food I can’t afford and paying with the welfare ebt card, while giving me a ‘howz that whitey’ look. Remove these 5th generation welfare thieves from our pockets.
Report Post »cntrlfrk
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:00pmThis is why Government HealthCare will never work.
Report Post »LibertyWon
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:24pmThis will go down, its not big enough, now a food tax based on calorie count, that might be the end goal. Were already being taxed on the other end to pay for wastewater facilities, they just don’t call it a P ooh tax.
Report Post »Cowboy
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 12:37pmcntrlfrk, you are exactly right. If government is paying for your health care, it assumes the right to control anything you do that could impact your health. Just like any government bailout or subsidy gives government control over your life.
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:00pmAnother glorious day under comrade O and his administration. Keep the opression coming it is glorious day for all.
Report Post »I could write this for half of the articles on here today.
commonsenseguy
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:06pm@let us prey, you left out the beets.whats up, they getting to ya???
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:12pmWe must shed the weight both from our bellies and our backs. The beets are getiing heavier everyday comrades.
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:35pm@let us prey, classic.just classic!!!!
Report Post »love the kids
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:59amDoes this mean the Progressives will now embrace Brewer? “She’s great”!
Report Post »christos
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:57am+JESUS+ said sins would see peoples sin in latter day’s,Gluttony is sin,Woa those people are huge.
Report Post »christos
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:02pmEdit :…….+JESUS+ said you would be able to see people‘s sin in latter day’s,Gluttony is a sin,Woa those people are huge.This maybe their wake up call…….Pray for them to overcome over eating+AMEN
Report Post »The_Bees_Assume
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:06pmEven California has a thousand fatsos now, and there are dozens of fat Christians in every church now, too. The churches are not taxed for their fat food.
We are Taxed Enough Already to pay this bunch of diabetes bills, and pay for their golf carts, but hate big Government, so stay out of it!
Report Post »christos
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:24pm……Some say over eating,over weight,does not hurt anyone except the one doing it,NO WRONG,plenty of disease’s are related to being overweight,if the overweight people are financially destroying our Country it does affect others,just as alcoholism,drugs,cigarettes,they destroy,also,if these people are getting assistance,it is a reasonable approach,our Country is Broke——HELLO—–I agree with Jan Brewer.
Report Post »Free2b
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:39pmReally? Fat people are the cause of our economy being in the toilet? What about the diabetics who are skinny but eat sweets. They MUST be part of the problem. But since they aren’t fat, how do you know to not sell them sweets? People with high cholesterol who aren’t fat but eat bacon and cheeseburgers. Skinny people with a calcium deficiency who don’t drink milk. Bulimics who eat everything they want and then get rid of it… Well, we can’t do anything about any of them, but since FAT people are overwhelming society, and let’s face it, are just grotesque to have to look at – LET’S TAX THEM!
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:02pmIt is not about eating too much fatty foods, it’s about a lack of exercise. Therefore the logical thing to do is have a mandatory government exercise program. Those of us who were in the military remember morning PT formations 5 days a week. If you can’t keep up, then mandatory remedial PT. When your weight becomes everyone’s business, what is next. There are hereditary diseases so it is only logical that before you can procreate with someone else you should be subject to genetic mapping of both partners. After all, if the medical costs of your offspring is going to affect the health costs of everyone then it is only fair that everyone should have a say in whether or not you have children. If your I.Q. is not very high then you should not be able to have children since stupid people costs society money. People with blond or red hair, and light colored skin have a tendency to get skin cancer more then others. No children for them. There are certain diseases mainly associated with particular racial groups. No more children for them. Tax all of these losers and don’t allow them to reproduce. We can say this because they just might cost society more then what the contribute. Of course if some fat pig actually pays more into the system then what they cost do they get any of it back? Ben Franklin? We are well into hammering the smokers, now we start on the big fat pigs, so who is next? When did we as a society decide to start putting a price on individual liberti
Report Post »Free2b
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:46pmRickfromIllinois – I think I love you.
Report Post »christos
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 3:02pmNever said fat people were the cause of our country being broke,medical costs related to being overweight are huge & a factor,I said it would be a good idea for people on assistance,it would be saving their life,exercise,helps but it is the kind of food & amount that matters also–vegetables & fruit–whole grains—no processed food 2 experts Amanda M quaid Crawford Veria.Com show “What A RELIEF” & DR. Don Colbert Author book “TOXIC RELIEF” Excellent Educator’s on FOOD SUBJECT,(!) Challenge you eat the way these two do Amanda & Don for 3 months & you will never go back to eating the way you do now,as for the hereditary markers,those can be by passed with lifestyle 180 also,the others you mentioned skinny with diabetes,same thing food detail,all traced back to lifestyle,what you put in your HOLY TEMPLE/ BODY/MIND you shall reap…….PEACE ON
Report Post »christos
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 3:25pmEdit : Amanda M Quade Crawford—T.V. show “WHAT A RELIEF” on Veria also go to Veria.com,another Truth it is easier to swallow 2 k calories than it is the truth,don’t let the door of common sense slam you on the way out,it may break….what are the odds,AMEN
Report Post »Free2b
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 4:10pmIt is not up to us to make these choices for people – even the ones on assistance. The only help they should be getting from us is helping them get off of the dole. Again – what about the people on assistance who have health issues that don’t have visible symptoms? You are picking a group of people based solely on their appearance. THAT is discrimination.
Report Post »Cowboy
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 12:19pmRickfromillinois… We as a society decided to start putting a price on individual liberties when we decided to end personal responsibility for our own actions and decisions, instead placing the cost of those actions and decisions on everyone else.
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:56amand i was really starting to like her tough ways,this is crazy,just tax the fat, how about tax the skinny,they annoy me,that should be taxable. how do you know that all big people are fat,they could be big bone,or have a big frame,like me, i was born this way,so now you are discriminating against my heritage, of big boned and big framed people,{ the bbbfp} are the truth, i really like to eat, but don’t say anything, old george soros will help fund my new group{ not ever } but this just as stupid as mommy obamas idea.
Report Post »bry
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:27pm@commonsense guy…Tax the skinny!! Love it! They annoy me too.
Report Post »Freedom1984
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:52pmYou said it… the skinny really annoy me too. Far worse than any fat person ever has. The way they strut their stuff….
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:56amDon’t know how TRUE this is but I have a solution: GOVERNMENT, GET OUT OF OUR LIVES. NO GOV. Health Care; NO Gov. food police; NO Gov. Medicare. Set a time when everyone is going to have to provide their own health care, therefore will have to take care of themselves.
All people were much better off when we had to WORK for a living not get handouts. There will always be a few who can‘t help themselves and we’ve always taken care of them, but this reminds me of the guy who just won 2 M in a lottery, paid 1 M in taxes and STILL gets FOOD STAMPS.
This buying votes with hand outs has to end, so does government interference in any way into our lives. I understand that Gov. Brewer’s job is to be a good steward of the Tax dollars in AZ, but I think this needs some more esplanation by her.
Report Post »ConservativeVegan
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:04pmCan you imagine if only people who paid taxes and not received handouts were allowed to vote??
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:55amI remember the joke How many Biafrans can you fit in a Phone Booth??
All of them.
How do indigent people get that size Glute’s??
Report Post »smak
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:03pmHow many boots can you fit up your as*?
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:34pmAsk Bwaney Fwank (spittle running down his chin )
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:54amThis is absolutely stupid. What a person does in the privacy of their kitchen is none of the government’s business. If they don’t want to pay Medicaid then stop Medicaid.
Report Post »GTurner
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:57pmSigh…
If their kitchen is stocked from YOUR PANTRY, don’t you think you should have a say in what they can TAKE???
Report Post »ShyMan
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:54amWhy should tax payers pay for anyone’s healthcare but their own?
Report Post »Obama Snake Oil Co
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:53amOh, I forgot, now they will be able to increase your healthcare costs as well. I guess people don’t like looking at fat people….like I posted….you let them go after tobacco….santioned. Lets see…handgliding, bicycle riding…walking…running….driving….flying…..you gave them santion to do anyone they pick and more.
Report Post »Dahart
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:06pm@snakeoil
Report Post »They are already trying tax you by the miles you drive
prepper1776
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 4:46pm@snake your exactly right and once obamacare fully kicks in this is how they will do a end run around the 2nd amendment by making gun owners pay an outrages amount for health ins.
Report Post »Diablo4965
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:53amWhy are poor people fat?
Report Post »Sagrim
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:24pmBecause the cheapest food are primarily carbohydrates. So, if you want to feed a family of five — do you buy 5 Rib Eye Steaks for $25-35, or a few packages of pasta with sauce for $4-6? Or, the dollar menus — which, in and of themselves are not bad — but the bread tacks on needless calories and carbs.
Report Post »ipaevavu
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:53amway to go! I hate nothing more than standing in line at the grocery store in line, and seeing big people with basketfull loads of food! poverty my butt! I see them with their brand new smartphones, driving cars with 500 dollar rims. Keep up the good legislation arizona!
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:57amI hope this is a joke.
At what point do you stop legislating away things you don’t like? Where would that end? Do unto the but not unto me right?
Nice job fascist.
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:08pmIt will end …when the federal government runs out of money… So then the people that live off everyone’s else dime will ..get skinny real fast when they have to pay out of their own pocket…
Report Post »siebegorman
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:52amBrewer, have you totally lost your mind?
Report Post »TeaPartyPatriot
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:52amAlthough RINO TRAITOR brewer’s actions on SB1070 are commendable, they don’t make up for the fact that she is otherwise a despicable disgrace to conservatism, who raises taxes to gain support for her re-election from leftist unionist groups and who repeatedly vetoes outstanding legislation passed by the Republican legislature. She is fundamentally a self-serving political hack simpleton (she‘s known as Arizona’s version of alvin greene) for whom fate has provided an issue that she has exploited for her advantage. I, for one, would have preferred an Arizona Governor who defends SB1070 for the right reasons. Maybe the next Arizona Governor will be somebody conservatives can respect and admire.
Report Post »bry
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:58amSure…NOW you tell me! Holy b’geezus…. Next time I donate to Keepazsafe, it will be in spite of Brewer.
Report Post »chfields62
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:02pmGlad I don’t live there anymore…..I have lost all respect for Brewer……….
Report Post »mackycat
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:25pmYou didn’t even bother to watch the clip, did you? All she is doing is trying to get people to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN HEALTH CONDITION if they are on state aid. How can you be against that? You think people dining on the taxpayer’s dime should be able to sit around and do what they want regardless of the cost?
Report Post »EyeofthePatriot
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 4:31pm@MACKYKAT
This argument is fine if you keep it in a vaccuum. However, there is NEVER a vaccuum when it comes to Progressivism. Next they’ll be telling you when you begin receiving Social Security you MUST spend it on buying food, no vacations for the retired. Or you can NOT hold a job while actively receiving Social Security.
The list goes on and on. There is a line there that needs to be governed for people ‘on the dole’… but this is far beyond it.
Report Post »snakeman
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:51amuuuhhhh. OK.
Report Post »ConservativeVegan
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:51amTyranny.
Report Post »freedomweiner
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:50pmRamifications, Folks ???
We are in deep, deep doo doo.
Report Post »GardenoftheGods
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:39pmAgreed! Tyranny…what’s next? Actually, I don‘t want an answer to that question because the gov’t is scary enough right now! What the heck is going on in AZ? First Napolitano (Big Sis) not da judge & now Brewer…WTH?
Report Post »flevan
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 9:15pmNot a tax, but a penalty for people abusing welfare.
Report Post »Watch the video.
The Gooch
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 10:04amGuess what. This story is talking about Medicaid recipients… people who are having their care paid for by Joe Public, the taxpayer. This story DOESN”T mean the private citizen can’t eat, smoke or drink as he/she wishes. Funny how you folks are getting riled up about something private insurance does all the time: Cost-benefit analysis.
Report Post »In no way is making people own their behavior “tyranny.” That is ri-damn-diculous. Read more on this issue, watch the video again, take a deep breath and think real hard about what you’re actually being told.
Obama Snake Oil Co
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:50amSuck it up people. I warned people when they went after smokers they santioned the government to do just this. Next will be the soft drink tax…..
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:58am@snake oil, what do you mean next,heck, they are already do it,next will be time spent on your computing,and then,taxed for every letter you type on your key board.
Report Post »UnreconstructedLibertarian
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:01pmTobacco legislation, taxation, and societal controls – are the exact precedence that enables the government to invade your personal choices in all other areas.
I can’t wait for Michele Obama to open the “Second-hand Fat” argument.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:06pmYou’re right people never look passed here and now to see where given government in power in any personal choice areas can lead. Power once given is never returned willingly and must asuredly will lead to more power grabs. The only real question is how much before the citizen(constitutional armed) will drop the hammer on the government and pull ever tooth out of the wolf Washington has become. I can guranntee one thing it won’t be gradual like their progressive power grab and it will happen.
Report Post »MercyMe
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:07pmAbsolutely! … First they came for the smokers and I did nothing, then they came for the overweight…
Report Post »UnreconstructedLibertarian
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:14pmMercyMe
Absolutely! … First they came for the smokers and I did nothing, then they came for the overweight…
_____________
Absolutely Correct!
Report Post »Clive
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:46pmfirst they came for the smokers (good) then they came for the fat (fantastic).
smokers and fatties are gross, and they cost us a ton of money on healthcare.
so i’m all for it.
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 9:59amArgh!!! Dammit people, this measure isn‘t saying you can’t smoke, drink or eat as you wish. It’s simply saying no one else should own your behavior. Why is your choice to be unhealthy a “right” others must bear? Are you folks not catching the distinction here or are you all Medicaid recipients?
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:50amAh yes, and after this will be exercise sessions at gunpoint. “Freedom is Slavery”
Report Post »GTurner
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:45pmDude, if you TAKE my $ to buy your food, you have to EAT the way I decide. Simple calculus. Don’t like it? BUY your OWN damn food…
Sheesh, people…
Report Post »GTurner
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:51pmIn FACT, the more I think about it, we should just make the law thusly: If you need food from the State, we will provide you with the “vegan raw” diet that Beck was on!
“I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it.”
Report Post »- Franklin
The Gooch
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 9:55amNope. You have a choice to make… that’s all. Either own your own health or don’t, but don’t expect others to pay for your choices. You are engaging in a logic argument that cannot be substantiated.
Report Post »How is enabling a behavior or lifestyle more humane? How is making the taxpayer pay for recipients’ choices more fair?
This is like the expectations put on folks who have to pay for insurance directly; your choices have consequences. Your scenario is a foolish, knee jerk defense for folks being allowed to have their cake and eat it, too. At what point should the fatties, junkies and smokers on the govt. dole be made to own their behaviors? Never? It seems you’re asserting that Twinkies, crank and Marlboros are inalienable rights. Okay… but if you wanna use and abuse, I shouldn’t have the proverbial gun pointed at MY HEAD with govt. and other enablers telling me, “You must pay for this and you may not question the matter!” You see, if I refuse to pay taxes and support these systems, agents of the govt. will actually come to arrest me and take the stuff I actuallly paid for… at gunpoint if the state deems it necessary. Tell me how that scenario is “more fair” than simply making folks responsible for their own health.
Eat what you want, live as you wish. Own your damn choices and stop playing the victim when made to engage in a bit of accountability.
cessna152
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:50amHow about we have an idiot tax for people that write stupid laws about taxing…
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:05pmI will vote YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »TexasTBone
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:19pmi would definitely get behind that!
Report Post »also, just a thought, have you ever seen how many politicians are “well fed” ?
cessna152
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:36pm@TexasTBone
Well fed in food and money. This simply has to be stopped. They simply continue to rob freedoms right before our eyes. As a kid I often wondered how the people of the USSR got into the mess they were in…. now i know.
Report Post »flevan
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 8:54pmHow about you watch the video and realize that this is not a tax, but a penalty for abusing welfare?
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:38pm@flevan,
“How about you watch the video and realize that this is not a tax, but a penalty for abusing welfare?”
True, but you really shouldn’t have to. The title is misleading.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:43pm@flevan,
(Following up on my prior post)
For example, the title says: “… AZ Gov Brewer Proposes New Fat Tax”. But you can‘t really call it a tax when you didn’t earn the money to begin with – it‘s someone else’s tax money that the government stole to give to someone else (redistributional).
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 9:40amThe more logical step would be to limit coverage… make there be a price to be paid for your choices as is done to us in the private sector. Odd to see so much defense of parasites and enablers on this forum, but I get the sense some folks don’t ever wanna be made to own their behavior. This is the mentality that leads to asserting cell phones and computers are a right.
Report Post »ConservativeVegan
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:49amTyranny!
Report Post »DIOS BENDIGA AMERICA ... JESUCRISTO ES EL SEÑOR!
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:55amStick a fork in them – there done!!! Yehaw! Don‘t mess with a fatboy’s food – even Big’un Michael Moore will not stand for this tyranny.
Report Post »BIGJAYINPA
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:58amWhen did Gov Brewer morph into Moochell Odumbo. Stay out of my kitchen you intrusive b****!!!
Report Post »The_Bees_Assume
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:02pmJan Brewer must have a good reason for this – she is entirely anti government so this has to be an error by the bumbling Blaze/Drudge connector, who so often just stir things up needlessly. Anyone who knows Arizona knows this is a hoax, probably paid for by George Soros.
Report Post »Red Meat
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:03pmObviously, Brewer has suffered a stroke and is now like any other liberal.
Report Post »El Paco
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:05pmActually, this is the most common-sense one there has been for awhile. I still think it’s a bad idea, but she’s trying to get people to stop “living off the FAT of the working people” and get them to lose weight. This could potentially save the state a good amount of money, but the whole “doctors are now the moderator of it” is gonna backfire bigtime.
Report Post »Professional Infidel
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:10pmnever have listened wont start now, catch me if you can. its my way. for every rule theres a way around it. a waiver you might say.
Report Post »Indomitus
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:11pmIt’s for Welfare recipients, folks! These are people who are eating food and are provided with health benefits paid for with taxpayer money. Only a relatively rare percentage of people are obese by genetic predisposition. The rest of them are eating their way into obesity by choice. They choose to eat themselves fat, and expect us to pay for the excessive food that makes them that way, and to pay for the additional medical attention it will engender, then they can darned well accept a monetary penalty.
Report Post »I have a better solution than a tax, however. How about we get rid of welfare entirely and allow ourselves, as a free and independent people, to care for oursleves and our neighbors as we see fit, without the interference and coercion from the State?
stoptheliesbho
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:22pmi am ALL for being healthy and the things welfare recipients should NOT be permitted to by. But this IS socialism. a fat tax? what’s next? a blonde tax? a too many daughters and not enough sons tax? what in the eff is happening to American government?!?!?! If this passes, I will not be shocked, but I will be disappointed.
Report Post »The_Bees_Assume
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:27pmIf this is true – and I doubt it is, the money might be going to pay for transplants she denied in 2010 for affordability issues. So Brewer’s planned fat taxes could eliminate her actual death panels.
Report Post »prepper1776
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:28pmi propose a stupid tax, debt problem solved
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:28pmPerhaps now people here will see why I don’t like Brewer, she is completely a political machine without true regard for the ideals we stand for. Nothing she has even done has been done upon personal principals, it’s just whatever buys her the most votes or acclaim.
Report Post »JohnGalt
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:37pmAmen Indomitus! Unfortunately for now it’s wishfull thinking.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:38pmProof positive that being pro-gun does not mean you are necessarily pro-liberty. Consistency apparently isn‘t the Dear Leader Governor’s strong point.
Report Post »restorehope
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:41pmDoesn’t sound like something she would support. I’d wait to judge until more info comes directly from her.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:42pmIF…and I do mean “IF” this is being correctly reported…I could not disagree more! There are many other ways to go about this…
Report Post »Clive
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:50pmWhats wrong with fat people kicking in some extra money to cover what their fat a$$es cost us?
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:58pmStay out of my kitchen. I will eat what I want, when I want, how I want. You will not get an extra dime from me.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:59pmWhat the hell…?
Imposter!
Report Post »orkydorky
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:00pmSounds to me like another smear campaign form the left to discredit an enemy of George Soros. Now that you’ve heard their side, you might want to here Brewers side before throwing her under the bus. I see a lot of knee jerk reactions on here, take a deep breath, slow down, get your facts right and then make a sensible decision. You folks are being spoon fed all sorts of propaganda by the left and have a great need to recognize it!
Report Post »Deanna in Missouri
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:03pmI think drug testing would be better.
Report Post »realjohn
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:15pmIMO there are three important things this tells us:
Report Post »1.) It is being reported by a network that everyone (almost) knows is not to be believed.
2.) It is being commented on by a Democrat whose sole purpose in life is to bring down Conservatism
3.) When we ask for the end of the public paid for Welfare State we should know that this is what it looks like.
Tip of the iceberg
Soylent_Green_Jobs
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:28pmTime to throw them all in a meat-grinder to make up a few appetizers. Deep-fried Lefties is one of my favorite things to feed the hogs and gators.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:36pmWhat the hell? What happened to Gov. Brewer?!
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:37pmFirst drug and alcohol tests for anyone on welfare…
Report Post »stifroc
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:43pmThe Govt. has no business telling ANYONE what they can or cannot eat.
The Govt. has no business telling ANYONE what kind of light-bulb they can or cannot have.
The Govt. has no business telling ANYONE what kind of car they can or cannot drive.
I am getting so fed up… we need a right-wing Che’
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:59pmOh, it’s WELFARE RECIPIENTS!
Just get the public sector out of the economy and you won’t need welfare programs, which are unConstitutional anyway because they are redistributional (treating people unequally, and stealing from one to give to another).
Report Post »Sam Brown
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 1:59pmYou can have my fork when you pry it from my cold dead hands LOL
Sam
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:25pmDoc…If they take my money, then test them for drugs and if they are using illegal drugs stop the money and let them pay for their own damn drugs!!! What the hell is wrong with that?
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:46pmI eat what I want and want what I eat. Nobody has the right to tell me other wise
Report Post »101
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 3:05pmSounds a little twisted “(D) spin” I don’t believe a thing this guy said and until we get the details straight from Jan Brewer herself (this is a non story)
Report Post »101
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 3:27pm@Dustyluv
Doc…If they take my money, then test them for drugs and if they are using illegal drugs stop the money and let them pay for their own damn drugs!!! What the hell is wrong with that?
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Shouldn’t be allowed to collect tax money if you test positive for drugs…let people use their tax money for their own damn drugs : )
We need less government control and an end entitlement programs, not laws governing food consumption!
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 4:04pmBefore they try to implement this they should drug test people getting welfare checks. This makes no sense to me, frankly, but have only heard one arguement.
Report Post »GODSAMERICA
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 4:58pmFIrst and foremost, the demoncrats are against it so that speaks a lot of good for this. We should not have to pay for these people to eat like pigs. If they are getting that much money from welfare to eat like that then they are absolutely getting too much welfare. I would say that instead of a fine, that they start reducing the amount of welfare that these people get until they have just enough money to eat enough to stay healthy. This idea is based on the premise that the state won’t just get rid of the welfare rolls altogether which would be the best thing to do. Also, if they do get money from the state like that, then let them work for in for the state. I’m sure that there are a lot of things that they could do to earn the welfare money they are getting, and working like that would help them get healthier.
Report Post »My Two Cents
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 5:07pmArizona you can do better. Raise the tax on tortillas and generate some real revenue.
Report Post »GODSAMERICA
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 5:18pm@The_Bees_Assume
Report Post »The idea is to either prove to or fool people into thinking that you have intelligence and common sense in what you say. Perhaps you could try again?
El Paco
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 5:30pm@ 2 cents: Hey, even gringos love tortillas!! NO TORTILLA TAX!!! :P
But people have shown good points here. The dems hate it, so there’s something more to this than just a “FAT tax”.
Rome, hit me!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzqBj8rh03A (must listen)
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 5:34pmAnother “patch” for a solution instead of just a final solution…It’s a progressive thing, you know, like ID’s, regulation, and rhetoric over fixing illegals…
How about before getting welfare your big happy butt has to “weigh in” to see if you qualify…Only those who are in poor weight/health get food given to them, not a check…
My grandpa told me bout the soup lines in the 30′s…Wasn‘t no fat obese people there and there wasn’t money changing hands either, just food for those needing it…They didn’t care what it was…
When you give a lazy person money you can’t expect the lazy person to be thrifty with it…A needy person will take anything offered, food…A lazy fat person just has their hand out, for a check…
Socialistic America has to realize she is cutting her own throat and making nothing but worthless people with their hand out…Let’s tax fat people to pay for grandmas Medicare…It’s hilarious the crap we come up with…So shameful all the way around.
Report Post »Stljarhead
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 8:00pmThis is hardly tyranny. If those fatbodies are gaining weight off of government assistance, then obviously they’re getting too much money out of my taxes. I’m okay with feeding them bread and water–and not a damned thing more. Tyranny is telling me what I can and can’t eat with MY money, that I EARN. These people haven’t earned a damn thing.
Report Post »No1YaKnow
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 8:02pmInsanity. Weight should not be the factor—let’s go with actual factors that are against the law—like fraud. She just won herself a ticket right out of office. She just qualified as a Moonbat.
Arizona resident
Report Post »flevan
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 8:46pmTitles like this is what happens when Glenn hires a HuffPo and leaves the country for a week.
Report Post »It is not a TAX, it is a penalty for abusing Welfare and draining Medicare/Medicaid.
Code_Orange
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 8:47pmThe GOVERNMENT is the Beast that must be Starved!
Jan is stepping up Government by starving the People.
Brewer is a pre-lung cancerous chain smoker who goes “one day at a time” and has NO long term vision, because she lives alone in her four walls of wine spotted personal confusion and fear with teacup Chihuahuas and toy poodles.
Report Post »jackrorabbit
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 10:51pmSince the state is getting squeezed by the Fed over the Medicare/Medicaid pay out, and the up coming health care, I think that this bill is being put forward to warn the people there that this IS coming, because the nation is BROKE
Report Post »BlazingInSC
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:02pmListen to the reporter guys. He stated that she proposes to slap the tax on WELFARE recipients… You know, the ones who are burdens on our tax system anyhow… I think it sounds like a good plan. It might even create enough of an incentive for these folks to get off of the government doles. Listen before you leap folks. I would bet a dollar that more than half of you who are railing against Gov. Brewer and this proposal only read the headline. C’mon Blazers… I expect more from you all — but then again, your posts have become paranoid and inane lately, so…. Hey, I‘m just sayin’
Report Post »IAMINFORMED
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 12:37amWhen I go to Walmart and watch the wellfare bumb in front of me with 3 carts of food pull out one of those food stamp cards, I want to scream. They are always have better clothes, drive newer cars than I have and get their groceries for free. My measly half a cart of food cost me $175 dollars. I work 60 hour a week to run my own business and pay thousands of dollars in taxes at the end of the year so they can live FAT of the hog. I say if you are able to work, but produce nothing to this society, you should be removed from society or forcefully put to work for the state (like the prison peeps cleaning the roads).
My idea to get control of this is to take a big chunk of land in the middle of the country, in Oklahoma maybe. Put 50 foot walls up and build a city that will be run by private companies. When you have to take ANY public assistance, you are forced to move to this city. You have to work 8 hours, go to school 4 hours, and have manditory excercise. The city would be 100 percent self sufficient where they farm their own crops and meats, make their own clothes, fix and repair all of the facilities – all JOBS that can be fullfilled by them. They get a 8 x 10 cement walled room with NO TV, NO Internet, maybe a radio. Their labor will produce additional products to sell as a profit and they will get paid $1.00 per hour for their work. This money will be saved in an account that they can take when they leave. If you leave, you can never come back. Tuff luck.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 12:58am@IamInformed
Uhm maybe somewhere besides Oklahoma….Most of us not living in the city here in OK take care of our own…besides we already have cows grazing the land!Â
How about instead of “taxing” those taking government money, food is given to them to eat…Ever heard of beggars can’t be choosers? Each month instead of getting $800 of food stamps you get a crate of food…Thats it…You don’t like it or eat it all in one day, your loss…Foodstamps can be sold for cash and many do it…
“Taxing” money given out by Government would be really inefficient and does not fix the problem…
Report Post »ecurbyy
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 3:56amHow about a stupid tax!
Report Post »jbl8199
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 6:03amI expect something like this from California, but Arizona? .
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 8:18amBS!! Drug test Welfare Recipients!! That aught to open up a HUGE surplus!!! All the people in the video are grossly overweight but THAT won’t be the only “fatties” charged by the state!!
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 9:14amIt’s bet this bill is a joke, Mississippi introduced something along these lines, but if you read it, it was just a joke to get people talking making fun of a democrat bill to offer gastric bypass surgery to anyone that wanted them.
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 9:34amUm, Brewer isn‘t saying you can’t be a fat, disgusting pig. Brewer is simply stating you aren’t going to be a fat, disgusting pig on the taxpayer’s dime without some ownership of your own health. Many of you folks are confusing a rights issue with a choice issue.
Report Post »Deb C
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 10:32amShe’s going at it bass ackwards – everyone knows that toxins are stored in fat. No fat, the toxins go right to the organs, causing disease. How about you clean up the food supply first – like the poisons that monsanto and others are using. Ever read a haz mat sheet on that stuff ?
Report Post »Cowboy
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 12:06pmGovernor Brewer isn’t making anyone eat or not eat anything. But as long as the federal government makes the state pay for people’s health care, why is it wrong to make people pay for their own life style decisions rather than push the resulting cost of those decisions onto everyone else?
Report Post »leahasevedo
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 1:04pmwhat i am more concerned with is all the people who worry about how muslims feel, and christians feel, and mexicans feel, but yet they find it perfectly fine to constantly chastise an overweight person. tgeh fact is that most children who get bullied are bullied for being fat. these bullies learn their ways from their parents. i think that no one should get a monetary hand out like welfare from tax payers. the foodstamp program would be useful if it helped people like single working parents who just need a little help feeding their families because they don’t earn enough to pay bills and buy food. i am sick to death of people belittleing others who don’t fit their supermodle standard. i am also sick to death of people who use diabeties and heart disease as an excuse to fire upon overweight people. these 2 things have been proven to be genetically based for the most part. diabeties runs in my family. my grandmother was the picture of health but diabeties killed her. my aount died of heart disease but she took extremly good care of herself. she ate right and exercised. there are several other first hand experiences i have had with these 2 medical issues and i can say with my personal knowledge that no one is safe from these medical problems. i think its very stange that when my grandma was diagnosed that we were told and studies showed back then that it was genetic, but now its cuz you are fat. its kinda like the milk thing. 1 min. its good for you next min. it causes cancer
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 2:06pmNext, there will be a discrimination class action suit brought forth by ‘a fat coallition’ and they will base it on, why overly skinny people (who are pose another set of health risks) are not taxed.
Then the ‘skinny tax’ will also go into affect.
After that, there will be more suits that unfairly target poor people and a tax would be levied on a class of rich people to equal out the percentage of people being taxed. (Afterall, we should not tax different classes of people unfairly, now should we? ;;tongue-in-cheek;;)
Then finally, EVERYONE GETS TAXED, and all the Progressives live happily everafter!
After that, most of America
Report Post »imreddog
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 2:19pmWasn’t this butch once a conservative? It seems to me that she morphed into a commie/nazi dumocrap. They must have threatened to reveal something that she doesn’t want known.
Report Post »Home Schooling Dad
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 7:04pmI think it is a great idea. It is not a tax, it is only charged to those individuals who are on welfare and overweight. These people are getting government healthcare paid for by us (the taxpayers). Therefore, if they choose to be on socialized healthcare, we should require some attempt from them to stay healthy.
If you purchase life insurance and are overweight, you will pay a higher premium. Why do health insurance providers not charge different rates for people who make healthier choices and higher premiums for those who make unhealthy choices. If you do not smoke, do not abuse alcohol, do not do drugs, exercise regularly, eat healthy and stay at a healthy weight shouldn’t you pay less for health insurance and life insurance?
I have a hard time believing that any conservative would be against this!
Report Post »Partygirl
Posted on May 20, 2011 at 12:47amAnother rino bites the dust. Hope she doesn’t attempt to run for president. What is happening here. All politicians are coluding to be dictators in training?
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