States Fight? TN Vows Payback on New Yorkers After 9/11 Memorial Gun Arrest
- Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:18pm by
Buck Sexton
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Tennesseans have circled the wagons to protect one of their own arrested in the Big Apple for gun possession, and now New York motorists may want to keep a closer eye on their speedometers.
In response to the arrest of 39-year old Meredith Graves for unlawful gun possession while visiting the newly opened 9/11 memorial, the Tennessee state legislature has taken action.
According to the New York Post, Tennessee’s state legislature has “declared civil war on New Yorkers“— at least when it comes to speeders in their state. State officials claim they may retaliate for the prosecution of a woman who was carrying an illegal pistol at the 9/11 Memorial.
A Knoxville-based legislator, who is also apparently a farmer by trade, is so upset over the Tennessee tourist’s gun arrest last month that he drew up legislation addressing it.
In response to the arrest of Meredith Graves, the Post says “his resolution condemns it as a grave miscarriage of justice— and reminds New Yorkers to “drive carefully” if we come visit.”
The Tennessee House resolution reads in part: “We remind the citizens of New York, especially those residing in New York City, to drive carefully through the great state of Tennessee, paying extra attention to our speed limits.” The resolution– which does not have the force of law even within the state of Tennessee, also requests the release of Meredith Graves, an outcome it claims common sense and sound judgment demand.
A registered nurse and fourth-year medical student, Graves face 3 1/2 years if convicted even though she was licensed to carry a concealed weapon in her home state of Tennessee. Before her arrest, Graves willingly surrendered her weapon to authorities thinking she was in compliance with the law.
Many who believe in a strong 2nd amendment have been outraged by her arrest, and there are no signs yet that New York City authorities are considering dropping the charges.
The resolution appears largely an attempt to bring attention to the case facing Graves.
But when asked about any impact it would have back in Tennessee, the Tennessee measure’s sponsor, Rep. Frank Niceley, (R-Knoxville) told the Post: ”Well, I don’t know that the Highway Patrol would be any kinder or any harsher. But it’s something to think about.”
Resolution 585 should come up for a vote in Tennessee’s House of Representatives next week. If it passes, it will head to the Senate and then the governor’s desk.
Meanwhile, Graves is due back in court March 19th.
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possom
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:08pmGo tennessee!!!!!
Report Post »little big man
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:40pmI have a carry permit in Pa, I can’t take my gun to Ny, NJ, Ct, DE, MA, ME, RI and a few others around here.
If Pa found me okay to carry a concealed weapon aka hand gun then why not the rest of these states?
the 2nd amendment says I have the right to have a gun. last time I check the above states are still in america.
The congress passed last year a bill to make a carry permit in one state good for all states what happened to that bill did haryy kill that also?
Report Post »neverending
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:46pmYes indeed.
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:49pmConstitution honoring states should put tariffs on all food and fuel shipments to states like New York. Just something small like 900%.
Report Post »Dr. Joel Fleischman
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:50pmMore psychobabble from REDNBLACK, aka Encinom Jr.
Report Post »Cheekymnky2
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:52pm@ Little: At least you can get a permit in your state. I have a FL non-resident but MD won‘t let me have one because I don’t have a “need.”
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:52pmLets declare all out war on those arrogant liberal bastards !!!
Report Post »BSdetector
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:55pmSpoken like a true wannabe Slave, ReddenBlack. Now go back to sucking on your government teat and leave the adults to their discussions.
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:01pmRednblk
Report Post »Really? NY. Sucks lust like Cali, Mass and all the rest of the progressive states.
Man purses are for p u $ $ ies not guns silly boy.
PlowMan
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:02pmRedenblack, you know not what you say! If these guys in TN ever get ahold of you………. Lord have mercy on your soul. They don’t call them rebels for nothing. Please don’t talk this way, we don’t need another 1860s conflict. It’s not good for anyone. The constitution is very clear in this area.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:03pmLITTLE BIG MAN
You can carry here in MT as I can in PA…..You should spend your tourist dollars here instead ;)…Just sayin…
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:09pmYah, sure- ‘go, Tennessee’- go ahead and do TSA/HSA and DEA roadblocks checking people for ‘illegal’ contraband, then whine and bitch and piss and moan about one of your residents getting taken down for illegal posession of a firearm.
Report Post »I am absolutely against any form of gun control legislation, for EVERYone, not just the ‘law abiding’, but this kind of snot nosed ‘I’m gonna get you’ mentality coming from people who put up with road checks is ludicrous.
JayCee
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:11pmAre there that many New Yawkers driving through TN?
Report Post »The stupid no gun law only applies to NYC doesn’t it?
the68
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:22pm@ReddnBlack; tell that to the Marines.
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:41pmI love New York, but hate the silly progressive liberal laws here! I don’t even own a gun, but I believe, clearly, this poor woman is getting the shaft!
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:45pm@ReddenBlack
Sounds to me like your one of the obama boys of course with a small b if yo axe mea
Report Post »ThePostman
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:49pm@REDDENBLACK: This time around, we are *begging* you to take our “slaves”. In fact, this may be the next civil war – “take them, or else”.
Imagine the prosperousness of a state that has very few generational welfare moms, illegal aliens, and people who just plain refuse to work. The rest of the states would go bust trying to compete with that. So would China.
Report Post »iannon
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:49pmReddenblack
Report Post »A bit of historical triva. Knoxville..was actually a very Union town as was much of East Tennessee during that time. Just sayin.
WeDontNeedNoSteenkinBadges07
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:55pm“TN Vows Payback on New Yorkers After 9/11 Memorial Gun Arrest”
WRONG WAY TO GO, TN.
Report Post »Two wrongs don’t make it right.
ONCE AND FOR ALL … BRING THIS CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE TO THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT! Unless … dare it be said? … you’re part of the problem of unConstitutional government.
*nudge,nudge*
*wink,wink*
*say no more*
turkey13
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:58pmIf you call all your friends and let6 them know what New York is doing to all the states that passed carry permits and get them riled up. Call it a no fly list. If your are one of the rich fat cats and pay $1200.00 for a temp permit your carry permit from another state will be onered. If all tourisim stops and you hit the whole state it will force the NY hose to amend their law.The Republicians passed a law that would have made a carry permit legal in all states but our friend Dirty Harry over in the Senate killed it.
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 7:09pmIf you were a member of the NRA you would know what states to avoid because your carry permit isn’t worth the paper your state put it on. Here on Oklahoma you have to pass a class before you get the permit 6 months lator. This is the second year myself and wife wanted to take our 3 older grand sons up thru DC, NY, Virgina, Conn, Phillie and Chicago but can’t carry in all those states. After Heller Decision, thought things would change. Many states will give a permit if you are wealthy enough. I usually spend about 10 grand but with the 3 grand sons probably would have cost 15 grand. I won’t be ripped off just because they want only the rich to be armed along with the felons.
Report Post »angeleyes63
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 7:15pmYeah go Tennessee right to carry laws should be respected everywhere in the U.S. including U.S. territories. Because new joke is so antigun Tennessee should crack down on all travelers from that screwed up state.
Report Post »Grey Eagle
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 7:36pmThis lady is a Nurse and trying to become a Physician. This arrest and if she goes to jail will put paid to becoming a physician. I would suggest that people take vacations elsewhere and avoid spending any money in NY. You would be more than welcome in Florida and Texas and no one would take your gun if you have a license to carry
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 8:10pmThis is how they make examples of gun law violators to keep the rest of us in line through terror of the LAW.
If your a Southern person in NYC you can also expect to be condemned as racist about two seconds after you order a Hotdog on Main St. NYC USA.
NY drivers better stop and swap over their plates to blend in while driving in TN. I’m sure the Fuzz is going to be lookin very carefully at every plate that enters in from the North going South bound on their freeways all along their Northern borders.
Report Post »vampiric aristocracy
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 8:24pmAs a proudly displaced yankee,i support tennessee!!!
Report Post »Atomic
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 8:40pmI’m from NY and I applaud TN! No doubt about it, my states gun laws are unconstitutional and are incompatible with the rest of America. NY’s gun laws makes criminals out of innocent good people… Its sad.
States rights??? Why??? Our Nations Bill of Rights ALREADY grants the right to bear arms TO ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS! Should there be “States rights” for religious freedom, or freedom of speech?
Report Post »Uranium Wedge
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 8:45pmHey New York, do us all a favor and succeed.
teamarcheson
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 8:50pmIn Every American War Tennessee Has Always Been The First To Fight
New Jersey needs to be taught a lesson too. Teach the lesson Tennessee, teach the lesson.
Report Post »wildbill_b
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 9:07pm@Atomic
Our Nations Bill of Rights ALREADY grants the right to bear arms TO ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS!……..
It does no such thing. Your position is the biggest problem facing this country today. Somehow you think the “Bill of Rights” GRANTS the Right. That is absurd. Read the Declaration of Independence. You will find that your unalienable rights come from your creator. You have them because YOU EXIST. “You have rights antecedent to all earthly governments; rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; right derived from the Great Legislator of the Universe.”
Report Post »– John Adams”The whole of the Bill (of Rights) is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals …. It establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of.”
– Albert Gallatin, New York Historical Society, October 7, 1789
RepubliCorp
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 9:24pmJAYCEE no, applies to the whole state. You need a NY permit to carry/own a handgun in that state
Report Post »ltb
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 10:23pmWhen are we going to stop this tit for tat? I live in Texas and I hate guns, but I love the 2nd Amendment. If I did own a gun, though, and decided to vacation in NY (not a chance in Hell that would ever happen), I’d spend five minutes looking up the gun laws in NY, since I’m smart enough to understand that not all states respect the 2nd Amendment like Texas. This lady needs to accept responsibility for not informing herself and TN needs to get over it.
Report Post »thegrassroots
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 10:23pmALL Of The States Should Join Tennessee In Putting The Hammer Down On NY.
Email Your Reps “Don’t Tread On Me” America!
NY Is In Violation Of Our Constitution! Not Acceptable!
Report Post »Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 10:29pmGet r Done….Go TN!!!!
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 10:59pmTennessee should pass legislation that NYer’s speed limit is 10 mph in TN. Thank-you for visiting Tennessee Mr/Ms NY. Smile, your fed taxes will cost you less than visitng TN.
Report Post »TexasKnight
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 11:19pmGo Tennessee! You rock.
Report Post »Wish the bill had even more bite. All NewYork motorist fines doubled.
All NY cars stopped and searched just for the suspicion. Have emisions checked on all NY cars, since they have different laws for pollution there.
Sure it will hurt with tourism, but do you really want NewYorkers defiliing the state anyway?
jzs
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 11:30pmSeems to me that’s a good natured back and forth. It’ll be resolved amicably. And whole lot of people will realize that states, in the good old Constitutional way, have the right to to create and enforce their own laws. And realize that you shouldn‘t assume that something that’s legal in your own state in legal in another. States rights, the Tea Party ideal. Why is anyone complaining? Do want, in this case, a Federal law instead of allowing states to make their own decisions?
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 11:37pmTypical dumb cops. Most of us in the north east are also victims. Why they would want to punish us to prove a point is ridiculous. Count me out from Tennessee, won’t spend a dime there now that these cops have deemed me and my neighbors enemies.We were planning on going on a white water trip kayaking in the spring there, but not now.
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 12:22amgo VOLS, Tennessee will circle D wagons Big Orange blood dann
Report Post »william.wadsworth
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 12:35amIt is unconstitutional for the states to place tariffs on shipments between states.
Report Post »Bowlz
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 1:42amIt sucks that the police and people are pitted against each otherk because of legalistic, bureacratic bs; but NY’s political, elitist mentality has to have consequences. I know NYPD and they don’t care for this crap. Common sense saves a lot of time and money. I hope the TN cops pull them all over and figure out who the ones are that ‘understand’ that rights are not given by the state, the gov’t or the world; tag the ones that don’t and let the ones that do off. Hopefully mayor Napoleon of NY will take a trip to Graceland and pull a Corzine on the way.
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 2:01amThink about this. If you can’t carry your gun legally into other states, then gay marriages are also NOT TRANSFERABLE to other states. Tell them in NY about this.
Report Post »TeabaggingRedneck
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 2:29amBoycott all liberal states. Plenty to see and do in true others. Support good people. Boycott GE while you’re at it.
Report Post »Master_and_Commander
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 3:18amI’m so fed up with New York I could just scream. Every single Southern State ought to join Tennessee in this fight, its time to take a stand against this injustice. Enough is enough all ready!!!!
Report Post »toomuchgovt
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 7:00amAs a upstate NYer I am ashamed of my states ignorance of 2nd Amendment rights. The only people in our state that are comfortable owning guns are criminals and the police. In my experience, legal gun owners are made to feel like criminals for even applying for a permit or obtaining a hunting rifle.
I visit Tennessee often and have thought of moving there. However, two wrongs don’t make a right. I have nothing to do with the crazy liberal politics of this state and try very hard to change it. NY is past the tipping point and I now am just looking for a safe exist. Warning to TN don’t go down the same path, with the same PC policies that got NY into this mess.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 7:37amBefore New Yorkers or left wing 2nd Amendment haters start whining, let me just point out…
Report Post »New Yorkers don’t drive! They “hire car services” or take cabs! LOL
(I’m joking. Get over it.)
TAXEVERYONE
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:07amLove NY?
Report Post »Take I 95 north, and stay there.
It will raise the intelligence level of both states.
ropergirl_00
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:20amTN is acting stupid. If TN wanted to act like this, they should have waited til her court date was past. She probably would have gotten off anyway. TN Gov could have contacted NY Judge on her behalf, if he wanted to do something. We are dealing with Libs folks! I don’t like gun control of any kind, however, we have it to some degree. Each state is different. We all know that, wheter we like it or not, especially licensed conceal carry gun owners, which she was. A RESPONSIBLE gun owner knows the law in a State before he goes. Period. It’s on her, not NY.
Report Post »saranda
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:32am@littlebigman – your name tells me more about you than I suspect you even care to reveal.
Report Post »You cannot carry in those other states because you have not been licensed to do so. How is that so hard to understand.
UWSDWF
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:35amThis is a Slippery slope. Although I agree that If you have a license to conceal carry legally in one state, you would think, it should be OK in all other states? The problem is:
Report Post »We do not want our government governing each state, each state is responsible for itself as it is supposed to be. If they use this as a way to over ride individual states rights, then THEY will surely IMPOSE a lot more unfavorable laws, rules, mandates etc. on us.
The only thing for now for all conceal carry individuals is to get educated with the state you maybe thinking of visiting and check their local laws. There are books out there to help with this. Get the most recent publication. If you feel that your personal safety is at risk in the visiting state, you may want to reconsider other means of personal protect for yourself. Pepper spray, taser etc.
I personally will be emailing to all the NY state representatives my disapproval in this case.
God Bless
sWampy
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:40amIt really ****** me off they passed laws forcing all states to honor gay marriages, even though they involve to mentally ill people abusing each other something that is a clear violation of the constitution, and they won’t force states to honor other states gun permits, something that is clearly protected by the constitution.
Report Post »boomboom
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:43amNannyNannyBooBoo…NY’s momma wears Army boots!
Ha Ha (said Nelson Muntz).
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:11amI’m all about it Tennessee. Sock it to ‘em.
Report Post »2theADDLED
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:03amHow did our original 13 Colonies become so unamerican is it time to succeed the union ?
Report Post »roadking1956
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 12:31pmTennessians, we are the upstate NYers not affiliated with the down state liberals. Us upstaters have no lost love for the hole past westchester county. Yep, you can get a gun permit still pretty easy up hear, thats why we are refered to by the down staters as rednecks and uneducated, which is far from the truth. So don’t treat all of us like we are from NY city. Their is a whole state of hillbillies up hear lol. Oh by the way got to get going to shoot some skeet and pay my yearly due to the gun club.
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 1:08pm@ Littlebigman, the second amendment to the U.S. Constitution does not give you the right to carry a gun. It is the NATURAL RIGHT of self defense that allows you to carry whatever weapon you deem necessary to ensure your own safety and the safety of those around you. Far too many people get confused about this. Even if an amendment to the Constitution was ever signed that nullified the 2nd, your right to carry a weapon would not disappear.
Also, the 2nd amendment never mentions firearms. It says arms. Arms means any weapon. You should take note that the battle of Lexington was fought after the British took control of all of the city’s cannons and munitions. The men who fought the American Revolutionary War knew what they had a right to possess and why. We need to remember that.
Report Post »2theADDLED
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 1:30pmSo under law having a brain with common sense or thought could be deemed an arm ?
Report Post »midnightvelvet
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 1:53pmThe word is “secede” not “succeed”! Dang semi-literates. Someday my head will explode!
Report Post »Iron_TeaBag
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 2:58pmWhat part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED do these ******** not understand?
Report Post »Melvin Spittle
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 3:15pm@SARANDA “– your name tells me more about you than I suspect you even care to reveal.
You cannot carry in those other states because you have not been licensed to do so. How is that so hard to understand.”
Since when should a law abiding citizen need a license to exercise an INDIVIDUAL right? No state may create laws that strip you of your rights based on state residency. All states must recognize that they have no authority to do this.
You need to educate yourself before you make a fool of yourself.
Report Post »Jomil48
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 3:51pmIt’s about time that states take action against socialist northeastern. First of all, I don’t know why anyone in their right mind would ever want to go to NYC, although not all of NY is bad, I would never spend a dime in there. Shame of it is there are good people there who have no voice. Had Ms. Graves been a thug robbing people in the city, the gun charge would have been thrown out already, but because she is law abiding, and a believer in the 2nd amendment, they will throw the book at her.
Report Post »Formula382
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 4:40pmI have a Conceal and Carry in AR, one of the best states on the planet for gun rights, everyone is packing and crime reflects it. Crime rate here has dropped every year since it was passed at the state level.
As for NY, what a POS, I’m glad to see TN make an example of them!
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 6:56pmThe liberals were worried about this registered nurse and medical student carrying a gun.
Pathetic.
The liberals worry about everything.
A conservative rides a harley with no helmet. A liberal rides a Bicycle with a helmet.
A conservative waits till traffic clears, before crossing a road.
A liberal is impatient and darts into traffic without looking.
Then they want the law changed to accomodate their ignorance.
A conservative falls on the pavement and asks for a band-aid
A liberal falls on the pavement and asks for a lawyer.
A conservative wants a chance to succeed financially by hard work and determination.
A liberal is determined to somehow get a portion of the Conservative’s earning.
A conservative wants to grow carrots and sell to their neighbors.
A liberal wants to get inbetween the buyer and seller to reguate both parties, and get a portion of their Money.
The liberal tells the Buyer they may get sick from an unregulated carrot.
There are two types of people in this world.
Report Post »Those who want to be left alone, and those who won’t leave them alone.
Liberals are the latter.
2theADDLED
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 9:04pm@ midnightvelvet
Report Post »My bad you got me but you got the point.
blazer809
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 11:37pmAbsolutely….GO TN!!!!!!!
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 2:25am@ eagle2715
You can carry here in MT as I can in PA…..You should spend your tourist dollars here instead ;)…Just sayin…
Report Post »~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
And I bet the fishing is better in MT as well. I like your state; no sales tax.
1911EOSGarza
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 3:24amPlease show some respect, it’s Tennessee with a capital T as in, “Tennessee – America at Its Best” God bless everyone!
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 8:04amlittle big man
Report Post »Go to NRA site, it’s up in the Senate soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!
common cents
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:06pmI hope this sets up a Supreme Court challenge so we can get the 2nd amendment enforced in all 50 states. If this is challenged, they will probably drop the charges so it won’t result in another situation like Heller v/ DC I wish the Supreme court would have clarified the 2nd amendment ruling to all states.
Report Post »Of course “we the people” already know what it means.
ProudPatriot1776
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:11pmSo no more states rights?
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:16pmProudPatriot…
You need to do some reading of the Constitution bud, States rights don’t include the right to super cede the US Constitution….Was kinda part of that deal of becoming a state…In case your don’t want to…here ya go, as I’ve seen you say this a few times now….
Article VI Section 2
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.
States can’t take away your 2nd Amendment anymore than your first or any of the others….And as of a few years ago, the Supreme court decided that the second amendment applies to the individual, not just a “militia” as the progressive loons would like you to believe…
Report Post »We are Americans
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:22pmYes. Let’s punish the average citizens
Report Post »for a law that they had nothing to do with
putting on the books. This should be great
for Ten tourism. I’m for states rights unless
I disagree with them. I’m for a limited federal
government unless I disagree with a state law. Lol
Everybodies crazy anymore.
ProudPatriot1776
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:23pmGood point, and since I believe a well regulated militia is needed for the United States, if she wants to form a well regulated militia with her guns, she should be allowed to.
Report Post »Earmarked
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:25pmINDIVIDUAL rights AND the CONSTITUTION both trump states’ rights my friend
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:30pmEARWIG . . . That is so darn cute, you talking about the Constitution like a big boy. Now it’s something kinda new for you, so don’t worry when you get stuff wrong, like now.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:35pmShe doesn’t need to form a militia for the second amendment to apply, read my later part of the post….
Report Post »defow99
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:38pmProudPatriot1776: This is not a states rights issue. The 2nd amendment is part of the constitution and cannot be infringed upon by the Government which includes the states. Can any state or local government legally take away your right to free speech or freedom of religion? How about your rights against illegal search and seizure or take away your right to a trial by jury or your right to remain silent? Then why is OK for the states and local governments to take away your 2nd Amendment rights???
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:49pm“The 2nd amendment is part of the constitution and cannot be infringed upon by the Government which includes the states.”
And yet we accept limitations on every other right in the Constitution when it comes to public safety. For example, we limit free speech, and certain states and communities have their own profanity laws. So, your argument is simply untrue.
Report Post »Lamarr01
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:51pmI think it’s against the law to protect yourself in NYC. That’s when the police and Homeland Security are for. Injuring a rapist or mugger may result in some serious prison time.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:54pmPUBLIUSPENCILMAN
Your argument is based in a misrepresentation….I accept not limitations on those rights…But I don’t know of any of them that result in 3.5 years of jail time right now, so this one takes precedence…
Bring the attention of other limitations imposed by the states that aren‘t fought and I’ll agree with you on those too…. Most being 1st amendment, in which the ACLU is all over those….Unless your 1st amendment includes christian religious beliefs or conservative ideals, then you have to find another activist group…
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:16pmIn part, “…the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
Report Post »Show me where the Second Amendment says only hunters or target shooters, or only the good ‘law-abiding’ people have the right to keep and bear arms.
Then show me where it says this is a state’s rights issue. Go ahead- I dare you. Just like TN wants to make threats to New Yorkers over an infringment of a resident’s rights, yet will allow illegal roadblocks and searches of vehicles and persons on their roadways.
Sounds to me as though TN will only enforce the rights they want.
Thecoolhandluke
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:28pmIn fact when the the Constitution and Bill of Rights were first written, they limited ONLY the powers of the federal government, Not the states. In other words, before the nationalization of the Bill of Rights, New York could have outlawed guns and been totally within their authority as a state.
This is evident in cases like Barron V. Mayor of Baltimore (1833), where the U.S. Supreme Court denied Barron his 5th amendment rights not to be “deprived . . . of property without due process of law“ and to receive ”just compensation” for property taken for public use–even though Baltimore ruined the value of Barron’s wharf. Not only was the decision unanimous, but Justice Marshall said in his ruling that “These amendments contain no expression indicating an intention to apply them to the State governments. This court cannot so apply them.”
Then there was a War Between the States and a 14th amendment which provided a new basis to make the Bill of Rights binding on the states because of those phrases “No State shall make . . . nor shall any state deprive . . .etc.” One by one the Supreme Court has reinterpreted the previous amendments in light of the 14th and ruled that they are now binding on the states. The 2nd amendment, however, has yet to be nationalized like the rest of them as states are currently allowed to make their own gun laws (for the most part). And in all likelihood the 2nd amendment never will be nationalized.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:44pm@ProudPatriot, Eagle and Defo
Actually, this goes beyond the Constitution. The founding principle behind the Bill of Rights is found in the Declaration of Independence: “We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness…”
Note the words ‘AMONG THESE’. We have a Divine Right to not only our Life, but the protection of it. It‘s not a ’law’ in the Constitution, it’s a God-given or natural.
The Bill of Rights wasn’t written by politicians granting us certain things, it was demanded by THE PEOPLE to ensure the federal government knew what it couldn’t legislate away from us.
Report Post »floridabeeker
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 7:07pmDoes a state have the right to imprisision the innocent?
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 8:55pmMany States Like New York and New Jersey Has Technically Repealed The Second Amendment.
Now you cannot purchase CO2 cartridges or even BBs in the State of New Jersey. The US Supreme Court promised it would look at all the anti-gun laws in the cities, towns and states. The 14th Amendment states that everyone is a citizen of the United States not the State they live in so why can States control the Bill of Rights and the Law of the Land?
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 12:40amYOUR SENSEI
Seriously? Trying to talk to me like i’m some little infantile youth? It’s funny man, I get raged, wish I could stomp on your face for being so stupid and ignorant, then I remember that your whole self endowed purpose in life is to agitate and piss other people off on the internet…Your pretty good at, I’ll give you that…. But in the end, your just some dude who gets his jollies off on the internet making other people angry……
I thank you though, you give me a lot of practice in which I use to deal with the 12 year old kids I talk to who don’t understand real life…..
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 2:24amEAGLESTALON3000 . . . My my my, such violent imagery. DO stop, Mr Man before you turn my head, you cutey patooty.
Report Post »HumbleMan
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 8:57pmStates rights have been crushed, and should be restored, but this is not a 10th Ammendment issue. The 2nd Ammendment is clear. We are all, as Americans able and entitled to bear arms.
Do you need a license to breathe? To speak? This is supposed to be a guaranteed “right”.
Report Post »TexasKnight
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 4:02amI agree, it is a state’s right issue.
Report Post »NY does not have the right to remove constitutional rights of citizens.
BUT TN does have the right to take action against NY.
Why are most on here only worried about NY’s state rights.
If TN wants to punish NYer in its state, it should be allowed to!
Go VOLS!
cozmo fox
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:05pmIf you’re looking for a bit of sanity to come from NY; trust me, you won’t live that long.
Report Post »bastone
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 8:04pmlooks like tn is catching up with ny
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:04pmThere‘s only one part of this story I don’t get; why would *anyone* *ever* visit NYC?
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:33pmBecause it’s amazing. It’s like no other place on Earth. It’s the worlds most influential and important city – financially, culturally, historically. That’s all.
Report Post »godhatesacoward
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 7:00pmJust to know how good they got it when they leave!
Report Post »conbones
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 7:26pmand yet it has fallen so far.
Report Post »because of people like you.
you make me feel ill, sensles.
your sensei
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 7:34pmCONBONES . . .actually it’s been a genuine renaissance in NYC for a couple of decades. Just ask Rudy. (He likes the open marriage thing too)
Report Post »Lucifers Hammer
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 7:42pmAmen! There is only one good use for NYC. For details check out “Escape from New York” and we can start by dumping all the anti-American, anti-freedom, anti-capitalist vermin there.
Report Post »rto
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 7:50pmTalk on Sensei and keep proving my point, New York City people are rude and not worth knowing. Your days of being supported by the people you dislike so much will soon be drawing to an end, and you’ll have to pay for you culture all by yourselves.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 9:01pmThe JFK International Airport
Many flights to other nations can only be gotten at JFK. Since only the USSC can free us from this Democrat tyranny, we are doomed. In the Middle East none of those nations have any gun-control. The Islamo-terrorist nations give their citizens more inalienable rights than US citizens have>
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 9:43pmI use to live in Tennessee and New York drivers are the WORST. They are so use to driving in huge traffic jams that once they hit I-40 —–they start to gun their cars like maniacs. Too many NYorkers think they live in the center of the universe while actually they live in a smelly corrupt cesspool.
Report Post »Went there once—NEVER AGAIN. People rude and pushy with NO MANNERS. Plus their crappy MayorBloomie is a moonbat.
Redhandpaddy
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 10:01pmNew York City is a decaying overtaxed overrated **** hole populated by unhappy liberal returds, minorities and thieves who have persuaded themselves that it is something more.
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 10:02pmRTO . . .Nobody suports me, least of all poor white trash welfare meth heads on The Blaze. So just keep polishing your pennies.
Report Post »Mad Engineer
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 11:15pm@Your Stupid,
Report Post »NYC is indeed an influential city…it leads the way in denying constitutional rights (i.e. 2nd amendment rights), overactive government (i.e 10+ years to rebuild the WTC), idoit politicians (i.e. Mayor Bloomin’ Idoit), just to name a few. Do everybody a favor, quit being an onager, grab the back of yoru head firmly, and give us waring so we don’t go deaf from the sonic boom resulting from pulling your head out of your vertical smile.
GPS-Tech
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 3:04am@Semenstain
Report Post »Of course you think New York is amazing, so many gay men and so little time for you to get pounded by all of them.
GPS-Tech
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 3:06am@Semenstain
Report Post »Yeah you dont need no one to support you. You make plenty of money bobbing your head up and down.
GPS-Tech
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 3:11am@Semenstain
Report Post »It must have been real tough on you growing up gay in the mid west.
ProudPatriot1776
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:01pmWhat would make you think a New Yorker would want to go to Tennessee? And don’t try to compare the states, there is no comparison. And whatever happened to individual state rights? Guess it doesn‘t matter when you don’t agree with the state.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:13pmindividual state rights ………………. STILL have to adhere to the constitution
Report Post »mmabri
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:24pmGee Proudpatriot did you not read Eagle2715′s reply back to you in case you missed it here it is…
From Eagle2715:
ProudPatriot…
You need to do some reading of the Constitution bud, States rights don’t include the right to super cede the US Constitution….Was kinda part of that deal of becoming a state…In case your don’t want to…here ya go, as I’ve seen you say this a few times now….
Article VI Section 2
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.
States can’t take away your 2nd Amendment anymore than your first or any of the others….And as of a few years ago, the Supreme court decided that the second amendment applies to the individual, not just a “militia” as the progressive loons would like you to believe…
Report Post »Seabass82
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:28pmI would take Tenn. over NY all day every day!
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:36pmIndividual states rights do no supercede the constitution. Period. NY’s ban is a violation of this young ladies civil rights. I hope she sues and I hope it costs New Yorkers millions. Since New Yorkers voted for the morons that put this unconstitutional law in place, we should boycott New York all together until this is fixed. I’ve been there, and frankly it’s a cesspool. I for one will not do business with any business in New York until this travesty is rectified.
Report Post »We are Americans
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:36pmSo y all do support a large federal government?
Report Post »Thought so.
Tyler520
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:23pmStates cannot violate Constitutional rights, moron. A federal judge has already ruled that gun-ban laws such as that in NYC are illegal.
Report Post »rto
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 7:09pmYour right New York City sucks. The people are rude,they live like sardines and they don’t care about anything except themselves. When I am forced to go there on business I stay only long enough to take care of business and get out. I’ve gone to Ten. a few times and enjoyed myself and the people every time. I’ve traveled the world and New York and Paris have the worst people, even Moscow was better.
Report Post »rto
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 7:37pmAnd this guy talks about other people being knowledgeable, must have gone to a New York City School.
Report Post »whitelr
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 11:23pmWith an outlook like that I begin to understand why your masters won’t let you play with guns.
Report Post »whitelr
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 11:30pmWith an outlook like that, I begin to understand why your masters won’t let you play with guns.
Report Post »flatbroke
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:00pmMY tourism dollars will from now on only go to states with concealed carry receprosity. I live in MO so i will only travel to Texas, Tennesee, Arizona, Fl, OK, any some others. So i will not need a passport to go to NYC.
Report Post »Proud Stray Dog
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 4:37pmNo, Saranda, that’s Kommiefornia. They’ll even let you marry your dog.
Dinkiecb
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:00pmI would think it would be mandatory to carry a weapon into Ny if you were from out of state just to keep the freakin idiots off of ya there in NYC.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:09pmAnd Philadelphia….
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:00pmFight back with your dollars,boycott New York tourism,until they respect our 2nd amendment rights..
Report Post »boats
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:15pmabsolutely!! we used to go to NYC all the time, but no more. If this is how they are going to treat tourist then we all need to take our money someplace else. This is the only way Bloomburg will do anything to change this. Money talks
Report Post »goengo
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 1:24pmBoycotting NY because of their position on gun control would not cause NY to change their laws. I believe strongly in the 2nd amendment, and have a concealed carry permit, but tourism and gun control are unrelated issues.
To boycott NY for this (or any other) reason would only be effective if the boycott were nationwide, and if people who would normally vacation in NY went elsewhere. For those who NEVER go to NY but say they will boycott NY, makes NO difference in NY’s economy or their gun control laws.
Report Post »Concerned Green Beret
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:59pmAs much as I like this, It will do little to deter the stupid jacikassess in NY. They will look at their motorists getting nabbed for speeding as collatoral damage in their war against the constitution. Well let me rethink that statement they are too stupid in NY to realize that it is their constitution that is being shredded. They will probably just shrugg and say eeey is Snookiy on tonight???
Report Post »stm62
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:59pmHer arrest and incarceration is mostly an expression of a left wing cities contempt for the right. If the left wants a fight, bring it on.
Report Post »LeadNotFollow
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:58pmGrab a bowl of popcorn and pull up a chair. This just might get interesting.
Report Post »Don’t p*ss off the people of Tennessee. Payback is H*LL.
encinom
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:05pmNew Yorkers are shacking in their boots over what some red neck, moonshine guzzler has to say. Maybe if their folks were smart enough to follow the local laws they wouldn’t find themselves in these messes.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:12pmShacking? What is the definition of Shacking?? The process of building a Shack?
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:15pm@ encinodork
what exactly is “ shacking” in their boots ???
dumb a$$
Report Post »Dr. Joel Fleischman
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:45pmEncinoIdiot flunked the 5th grade… 9 times.
Report Post »Dr. Joel Fleischman
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:46pmNo doubt EncinoIdiot lives in that left-coast cesspool known as Kalifornia.
Report Post »Bill Rowland
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:27pmEncinom refers to the 3d grade as the hardest 6 years of my life. Not only had ro learn about shacking, but there, their and they’re. Monicne still thinks they are interchangable.
All the states to issue CHLs should join TN and ticket any speeder from non permit states.
OMG
Report Post »Anadara
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 6:36pmActually, Encinom is a male name in the dialect of Adirondack meaning “small penis.”
Report Post »OklahomaBound
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:57pmI would suggest that their strict enforcement of TN laws extend to all vistitors or people passing through who have plates from any state in the northeast, CA or ILL.
Report Post »Skrewedretiree
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:15pmFor what it’s worth, living here in Washington State, where we have concealed carry and I understand we respect at least some other states concealed carry licenses, I have one policy that I keep:
If I see a broken down motorist on the side of the road that needs help, I pass them by if they have license plates from Enemy States (enemies of the Constitution), such as California, New York, New Jersey, Massachusettes (hell, any of the Eastern states!). If they need help, call the Feds or go without. Shouldn’t be much of a problem though, I’m sure one of their transplanted commie Kalipornia immigrants will stop and help.
Report Post »arx
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:28pmRemember retiree there are a lot of good people living under these mini dictatorships (liberal states) that cannot move for one reason or another.
Report Post »bastone
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 8:02pmof course theres the chance that that motorist is a disabled vet.
Report Post »youMUSTstand
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 6:13amPlease don’t lump Maine in with the rest of the northeast, I know we’ve had our problems but at least we were smart enough to elect Paul LePage as our Governor. And we love our guns. Now if we could just get rid of Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins we would be doing pretty good.
Report Post »goengo
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 1:43pmUntil the last election, my state (a “swing state”) had a very liberal governor. But I’m a conservative no matter which party holds the office of governor or state legislator. I think it is wrong to refuse to help me if I were stranded on the side of the road, simply because of politics.
Report Post »All Pro
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:55pmHow about a federal permit good any where in the United States?
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:01pmKinda a good idea, but then it would be up to Washington D.C. to make the rules of that permit…Having judges actually apply the constitution and slap down laws that limit the 2nd amendment would be peachy….
Report Post »TheLeftMadeMeRight
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:03pmHow about no permit needed anywhere , if you are legal to own a gun you are legal to carry it.
It’s called Constitutional Carry.
Report Post »its_time_to_arrest_our_government
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:03pmhere in Arizona we dont need no stinking permit! try and take my gun all youll get is my bullets. well placed and one at a time.
Report Post »jcldwl
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:10pmNo No No keep the Feds out of the concealed carry permit. We all want smaller government but yet I see people all the time wanting a Federal Permit to carry concealed. Are you nuts? I don’t want the feds having anything to do with concealed carry permits. Keep it at the state level. Know the state you are visiting and whether or not they have concealed carry and what their laws are. And by all means avoid the communist states of Illinois, California, and New York.
Report Post »Conservative New Yorker
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 12:13pm@JC-
ITA with your post. Initially I thought it was a wonderful idea but after speaking with some long time gun owners, they brought up the same concerns. We don’t want the Fed involved- they can use the legislative power it to enforce greater gun control/bans.
I wish the best for those who carried in NYC- I’m behind them.
And I think the best thing is for all of us CCW holders to read and know the laws of the states we choose to visit.
And yes, NYC does suck!
Report Post »flatbroke
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:54pmAnd the “ south has risen again” Amen, and AMEN!
Report Post »encinom
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:07pmthe South needs another reminder? Do we need a new General Sherman to abort the Southner’s racist dreams.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:18pmSeriously?….because this is helpful to the cause in so many ways……….extreme sarcasm intended….
Report Post »Raven249
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:42pmI doubt that’d word, Encicon. The South has most of the military. Also. Fort Benning, home of the infantry and Airborne. Location: Georgia. Fort Bragg, home of the U.S. Army Special Forces. Location: North Carolina. Hurlburt Field, USAF Special Operations Command Headquarters. Location: Florida. Eglin AFB, the largest military base the U.S. has, home of the F-22 and F-35. Location: Florida. Not only are the majority of military services members from the South or Midwest, but nearly every elite unit we have is based in the South. Any attempt to ‘remind’ would fail miserably.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:14pmDon’t forget the 101st Airborne in Clarkeville, TN / Ft. Campbell, KY
Report Post »GPS-Tech
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 3:23am@jizonme
Report Post »Sherman’s tactics are the only reason the north won. The battles in the north were spectator events. The locals would actually go out and watch the battles from the sidelines because the southern gentlemen didnt believe in attacking the civilians. If the south had followed a scorched earth policy it would have been over with really fast. I actually thought about that this past week and thought that would be a good policy for the south to follow this time. One thing you should consider is that back then all the production was in the north. There is a lot manufacturing going on in Tennessee and here in Texas now. Outside of detroit what is the north making now? Texas and lousiana have the majority of the nations oil refineries and pipe gasoline up north. There is an off valve on the southern side.
girlnurse
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:54pmJudge rules against Obama–pass it on!
Report Post »http://lgstarr.blogspot.com/2012/01/judge-rules-against-obama.html
chips1
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:59pmThank you!!!!!
Report Post »oldoldtimer
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:09pmNow I wonderdwhy this is not headline news? I bet Obama refuses to show up.
Report Post »Since Tn has I-40, I-81 and I-75 frequently used by New Yokers I would advise they do not exceed the speed limit. I can assure you there will be no lowering of the clocked speed to save you bucks. Thank your draconian gov’t and you anti gun laws. Next time we find the illegal Bloomberg sting liars at Tn gun shows it will not be pretty. I am sure they are breaking laws recording people without their permission..
Diego Roswell
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:45pmGRL – Good luck and best wishes in court.
Report Post »Planet Bob
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:52pmFor a crime to be committed, intent has to be there. She had no intent to commit a crime. She was trying to do the right thing. ALWAYS check carry laws before traveling out of your state/town/county.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:59pmYour using common sense man, common sense fails to exist once you cross any of those bridges…It’s bizzarro land there…
Report Post »its_time_to_arrest_our_government
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:01pmbetter yet never give up your gun to anyone. all gun laws are illegal anyway the constitution says it clearly that our rights to own and carry guns SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!
Report Post »encinom
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:09pmignorance of the law is not a defense. Her intent was to carry a gun without the proper permit. I hope she enjoys her stay at Rikers’.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:19pmUnfortunately I have to agree with you for Once Encinom…Unbelievable as it may seem….
These people should know better….
Report Post »arx
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:43pmI won’t bother responding to encinom, but Eagle, would you have said that to the colonialists who were ‘disobeying’ King George III? You do know they were a bunch of outlaws of their day. Should they have “known better”?
These ‘laws’ directly contradict the US Constitution (…shall NOT be infringed), which these tyranical states are obliged to respect, but don’t. Our founding fathers recognized the inalienable right to self defense, whether its criminals you may come across on the street, or in the government.
Pull your head out.
Report Post »Dr. Joel Fleischman
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:47pmEncinoIdiot you are an *******
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:01pmARK, read my others posts carefully brother…I’m not arguing the law is right…
This is a different situation the scenario you lay out 200+ years ago…
Regardless of his generally idiotic behavior, he is right on this…The law is unconstitutional in the fullest degree and if she had done this in protest to the law than your argument and mention scenario applies…She was not, she was ignorant of the law, and got arrested for breaking it. Wrong or not, it’s still the law and will be applied and enforced by the agency responsible to do so….As other laws like Obama-care are being…
Hopefully this will institute a court challenge to the law and further the 2nd amendment across the country. If we can bring down the NYC law, others will crumble…
Please don’t insult me in a veiled manner either….We have encinom/monicne, Rose-ellen, and others to do that…
Report Post »Rayblue
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:05pmNice suck up, 2715. Real nice.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:54pm@2715
Even a Marine can be right once and awhile.
Report Post »arx
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 6:59pmRayblue. Did you ever think maybe I meant no insult and Marines are sometimes too blunt? Maybe you would have got your purty pink panties in a bunch, but Eagle just showed a level head and you ought to give him some respect for that.
Report Post »arx
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 7:03pmApprently this post never go through before..so trying again…
Eagle. I was too blunt at the end. No insult was intended.
In 200 years we’ve come full circle, and then some. But this time the tyranny is even less forgiveable because it doesn’t originate from a far away King used to having his way. No, this time it comes from despicable hypocrites who abandon their own oaths, and blatantly and tyranically contradict the Law of the Land at every possible turn. And not only with regard to the 2nd, but also through taxes, regulations, and harrassment.
Report Post »bastone
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 8:07pmnot true.. people kill for fun now
Report Post »antiencenom
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 10:03pmThis little ***** encinom is probably making doobie money for each post
Report Post »Thanks papa george
eagle2715
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 12:32amI know man, I figured as much… Semper Fi brother
Report Post »joan k
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:51pmJust one more reason to move out of NY state. If I would have been able to I would have been gone by now. I can’t wait to leave NY State. I don’t live in NYC but it is getting just as bad in some of the cities here in the Upstate region.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:53pmThe state wouldn’t be a bad place to live if they cut off NYC..Give it to Jersey, they’ll fit together just fine….The idiots in that City overwhelm any common sense that comes out of the rest of the state…
Report Post »Bookster
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 10:28pmI live in upstate NY also and we are chomping at the bit to get the @$#% out of this state. We moved here 10 years ago and have since realized what a huge mistake it was. The area is beautiful, the people are wonderful but the politicians, taxes and regulations are idiotic. Once we decide what FREE state to settle in and get our house sold, we are out of here with no plans to ever set foot in the state again. Once we leave, NY can fall into the ocean as far as I am concerned.
Report Post »Don
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 12:51amummm anyone have a bomb that will wipe out only the progressives of new york handy? ohh Never mind just wishful thinking.
Report Post »rcguy
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 8:25amI left New York many years ago and moved to New Jersey—-just as bad. Left New Jersey about 20 years ago and I am a happy gun owner and carry a concealed permit here in Florida. I could never live in the northeast again where only the police and bad guys carry guns.
Report Post »Balthazor
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:50pmCan we just give Manhattan back to the indians? Here you go, it’s all yours, don’t care what you do with the current tenants.
Report Post »Timsincali
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:49pmF&({ them all to hell, and I mean every one of them. There are no innocents.
Report Post »Charybdis
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:47pmIt works for me!
Report Post »MS-GlenNBC
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:52pmI’m sure if Glenn could take a second out of his rants he could find a way to make this the fault of Newt Gingrich.
Report Post »roastbeefman
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:54pmLong live us rednecks!
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 7:33pm@roastbeefman—you are not a redneck,Rednecks don’t use computers to post with. They use them for boat anchors!
Report Post »Gatorslide
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:46pmDaddy likey
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:46pmANOTHER ONE? This is happening SO much now, including to the Tea Party’s Mark Meckler and the Marine. Time to fight back! http://www.markmeckler.com/nyc-gun-charges-dropped-now-i-can-speak-out/
Report Post »Gatorslide
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:45pmDaddy likey.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:54pmHey, Missouri!!! Our neighbors need help.
Report Post »cuinsong
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:45pmThe city and the state have an obligation to provide travelers a work around option to protect them from crime traps like the speed traps that have been found to be unlawful. This is wrong and should be challenged in the courts. Lib’s in NY are out of control just like Obama they think they can make any law or proclamation to force us into obedience like a good socialist population should act. Well I guess this is just another reason for me to use my music to enlighten people that something is amiss and we need to wake up’ pay attention and vote B.O. out. I wrote this song. it’s called “what’s wrong with this song” Because of all the B.S. that is part of this admin. We are under attack and are being regulated out of existence with unreasonable, unworkable stupid requirements. All with the help of congress which does nothing but wring their hands like they are impudent to stop Obama and his illegal czar’s http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_9134749
Report Post »Diego Roswell
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:18pmCUIN – I like your style but when dealing with elitists like Bloomberg and Obama, the progressives do not care what is right or fair. They have an agenda. Here is a great example: If you ever watch the Discover Channel program “Gold Rush”, in a recent episode, 2 of the 3 gold claims were shut down by the federal government for “mine safety violations”. One of the claims had been in operation for over 20 years without an inspection or accident as it had been run by the owner, a 91 year old gold miner. The federal government knows whats best for the claim owners, right? The closures cost the miners their livelihoods. All because of a federal regulation. You can’t fight it, it is like talking to a bag of rocks.
Report Post »arx
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:32pmCuin. Agree with everything you say. But the word is impotent. :)
Report Post »Cameraman
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 1:05pmGood Song..says alot enjoyed your list as well! Semper Fi
Report Post »SingerGuy
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:45pmA mandatory reciprocity between states would go a long way in helping this situation. But then again, so would building a wall around New York City.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 4:51pm….Then filling it with water….
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:02pmAnd sharks.
Report Post »drago
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:12pmAnd alligators……
Report Post »magadog
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:13pmCareful…remember what John Rocker said about NYC and what happened to him? He was crucified for sharing his [spot-on, accurate, unembellished] opinion of NYC.
Yeah for RockyTop! Cover them Yankees with tickets!
In the meantime, I suggest we boycott those rat’s nests of liberalism like NY, San Fran, the entire northeast from Maryland to Maine, etc. Punish them for making stupid choices (Schumer, Pelosi, Clinton, Dodd, Frank, gun laws,…)
Report Post »jcldwl
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:16pmWhere is Snake Pliskin when you need him?
Report Post »OutofSympathy
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:25pmNew York, Chicago, Atlanta, Los Angeles, San Fransisco, Seattle, Portland OR, Madison WI… just saying those are some of the most liberal cities in the country.
Might be time to give these left wing idiots The entire left coast so the rest of us can live in peace without the liberals DICTATING how we live. Just saying.
Heard some moron telling Mark Levin he should be shut down and taken off the air by the Obama administration the other night… Hey Mark it’s really not a bad idea brother, I mean we lose ONE conservative voice now and in 10 mos we lose:
Bill Maher
Rachel Maddow
Keith Olberman
Ed Shultze
Al Sharpton
David Bender
Alan Colmes
Thom Hartman
MANY, MANY OTHERS…
Just saying what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, may that idiot get what he wishes.
Now I am being fececious but common sense (something I know liberals have a difficult time with) tells me that IF you happen to censor one of ours we’ll come after ALL of yours.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on January 20, 2012 at 5:38pmMAGADOG
Fear is a very powerful tool, one I will not oblige to my enemy…
Report Post »GPS-Tech
Posted on January 22, 2012 at 2:53amTennessee is quite impressive in the spring. When I drove throught the mountains there two years ago the first thing that came to mind was America the Beautiful as sung by Ray Charles.
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