Crime

Stoned to Death: Did PA Man Really Murder Gay Neighbor for Religious Reasons?

A 28-year-old Pennsylvania man has been arrested for allegedly stoning an elderly man to death for making homosexual advances toward him. But new details emerging in the case suggest the suspect may have had more selfish ulterior motives for the crime.

John Joe Thomas told police he murdered Murray Seidman, his 70-year-old neighbor, by repeatedly striking him in the head with a sock filled with stones.

According to local ABC affiliate WPVI, Thomas lived in the same building as the victim and was arrested Thursday on first-degree murder charges.

On January 12, police responded to a report of a person banging on doors and screaming in an apartment building hallway. When they arrived, officers found Thomas sitting in the hallway crying and screaming about finding blood. When officers entered Seidman’s residence, they found dried blood spattered on the floor, walls and furniture.

When police initially questioned Thomas, he allegedly confessed to the crime, telling police he read in the Old Testament that homosexuals should be stoned in “certain situations.”

According to court documents, Thomas claims Seidman made sexual advances toward him over a “period of time.” When he prayed for an answer, Thomas claims God told him to end Seidman’s life. After pummeling Seidman with rock approximately 10 times in the head, he made sure he was dead, threw his bloody clothes in the dumpster and left.

Thomas claims he returned days later to make it appear as if he had just discovered Seidman’s dead body.

According to police, Thomas had spent nearly every day with Seidman and had attained the power of attorney over Seidman’s affairs. Prior to the murder, Thomas met with a lawyer and prepared a will for Seidman, making himself the sole beneficiary.

Did Thomas really murder his neighbor because he thought his religion demanded it? Or is he using religion as a scapegoat for a larger plot?

Comments (122)

  • drattastic
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 9:46pm

    Nut job alert! I’m sure it will be attributed to Christianity though.Same crap different day.

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  • The Gooch
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 9:31pm

    I’d lay money this kid drove pretty strong to the hoop to get the old fellow to take the actions reviewed in the article. I suspect the kid was playing the role of seducer… a poor man’s Anna Nicole Smith.
    Creepy. For him to suddenly have the “homophobic” outburst is a bit too convenient….

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    • vta
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 6:26pm

      Thank you – finally a voice of reason.

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  • RightPolitically
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 9:19pm

    Follow the money!

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  • KL
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 8:31pm

    Religion is NEVER an excuse to commit ANY crime. (especially muslims so called ‘honor killing” what a bunch of BS).

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    • Eblaze44
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 8:52pm

      so, obviously you are just prejudiced against Muslims. go back and read your Bible and what it says to do to Children that don’t obey and talk back to their parents. innocent little brats.

      but again you are correct. it’s not an excuse, and “honor killing” according to their religion, is not a crime. and many things you do IS a crime in their religion. and there are lot’s more of them than there are of you that believe that.

      but then, this ‘boy’ will get his, now or later. If he’d been a Muslim, then you see, it would have been right.

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  • commonsenseguy
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 8:28pm

    to bad we can’t stone him the same way !!!!!!! please gut him,hang him up by his toes and let the buzzards and ants eat on him until he is dead, i know that sounds harsh, but what about how he killed this poor man, if we still had an eye for an eye,we would have as much of this kind of nonsense going on today.

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 9:59pm

      You do know that the Eye for an eye quote is in direct connection to a man damaging an unborn child. ie abortion. I‘ll bet most people don’t know that or just look the other way with their eyes that may be required at the hand of God himself.

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  • Patriot Z
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 8:06pm

    muslims can behead their wives, hang gays stone adulterers, all the while screaming about their religion but if we say anything its bad. rest assured tho that this will be marketed by the left as a ‘hate filled christian killing’

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  • Rubicon Cross
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 8:00pm

    Why does this headline say “Stoniong him to death”? While this murder was horrible, it has nothing to do with and pales in comaprison to the horror of actually stoning someone to death, as is commonly practiced under so-called Islamic justice.

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  • miles from nowhere
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 7:34pm

    He must be a Muslim convert.

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  • Pilgrimsarbour
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 7:17pm

    And by the way, God NEVER told this fool to do anything to anyone about another person’s perceived sins or sinful lifestyle except to pray for him and share the gospel of Jesus Christ with him. And God NEVER speaks verbally to people and instructs them to do special things. That was a different era. Now, after the cross, there is sufficient revelation in the Scriptures to guide us principally.

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    • Eblaze44
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 8:47pm

      go talk to Samuel, after you get to heaven. and who are you to say what God does or doesn’t do since the cross, and the resurrection? has he told you? or do you just “know”. Where does it say he doesn’t? did he talk to Paul, did he talk to John (the revelator)?

      I actually believe you, why would God want to talk to anyone these days – no one believes in him. Oh they mouth the words, but their deeds are far from him.

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 9:42pm

      God has no rule in his word that he cannot speak to an individual at any time he may desire. He does have a rule that no man can look upon him without being consumed. By the way he has never verbally spoken to me. But he could if he wanted to. Where are all of these bible experts coming from? Give me your quote where he will not speak if you want to.

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  • ADNIL
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 7:16pm

    I guess the young guy didn’t want to wait once the will was made. The lawyers will get the money and he’ll get his just deserts. Evil greedy person.

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  • Pilgrimsarbour
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 7:14pm

    Whatever your religious views on homosexuality, the Bible NEVER authorizes the average person/citizen apart from the theocratic authorities to carry out any kind of “justice” on their own at any time. No Christian (or Jew) is EVER permitted to take legal matters into his own hands, especially regarding the taking of human life.

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 9:37pm

      Pilgrim

      Wrong, for one God authorizes the individual to kill a man who is trying to rape a girl if it is needed

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 9:55pm

      Hell even the state recognizes a mans right to defend his and other innocent life from fellonious actions to the DEATH.

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  • YouGottaProblemWithThat
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 7:12pm

    For all my liberal friends: We should outlaw rocks. If boys didn’t have access to rocks and socks this tragedy would never have happened. How can a boy get access to a deadly weapon like a rock in a sock in the first place? Shouldn’t there be a 3 day waiting period and a background check before a person can purchase a sock and fill it with a deadly rock? We should confiscate all socks and rocks and only the military and police should have access to rocks and socks. And what about cop killer rocks, they should be outlawed too.

    Classic Stupid!

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 9:34pm

      You got a

      I like where you are coming from.

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    • mrlogan3
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 9:11am

      Didn’t see anything or anyone asking for socks and rocks to be banned. Your statement is hyperbole, and an extremely bad comparison. What is the intended purpose of a gun? What are the intended purposes of rocks and socks?

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    • tifosa
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 3:55pm

      I‘d bet he couldn’t kill six and injure 20 in under 15 seconds with rocks and socks, friend.

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    • YouGottaProblemWithThat
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 11:02pm

      Tifosa and MrLogan –
      The point is this, one doesn’t need a gun to kill another. And if you wish to press the point of the effectiveness of a gun vs the sock & rock, think of a suicide bomber mentality and put him in the cockpit of a 747. Your gun argument is silly. The truth is that the “original use” of an item matters not to the person who is killed. A rock, a gun, a 747, evil men and women will continue to use whatever means to kill each other, but if one is armed and trained in a weapon’s usage, you might be able to thwart the boy with the sock and rock. Checkmate!

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  • Dumbsht
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 7:04pm

    Simple…..this dingleberry thought he could kill him, inherit the money and convince everyone he did it for religious reasons,….and because of religious freedoms he’d get away with it. Courts couldn’t convict him if it was about his religion……

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  • vennoye
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 6:59pm

    Sounds like he made a plan and carried it out……..religion sounded like some type of excuse, other then greed.

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  • SilentReader
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 6:55pm

    It sounds like this criminal had the ulterior motive of getting his hands on this man’s money. It’s obvious that he took advantage of the elderly man and planned this contemptible murder and then made up a story to justify it.

    I hope he is prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

    May Murray Seidman rest in peace. My sincere condolences go out to his family and friends.

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  • mrlogan3
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 6:54pm

    Christians kill Americans too. Everyone kills everyone. That being said, let’s go after Muslim CRIMINALS, not just Muslims.

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  • curtmavi38
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 6:53pm

    First of all God does not tell anyone to kill another person, Jesus said to love your neighbor,this is just an excuse to kill two birds with a sock full of stones,to strike out at God and to take this man’s money. Probably it was just the other way around, he initiated the contact, and after getting this man’s confidence,
    and his will changed decided to kill the man to collect. My wish to him is that he gets all that he derserves
    in spades.meh

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    • Eblaze44
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 8:42pm

      you should go back and read the book of Joshua – then come tell me God doesn’t tell us to kill anyone.

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 9:32pm

      If people got what they deserve there would be dead bodies lying everywhere. So what do you want, luv or what people deserve?

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    • MemphisViking
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 8:21am

      @ Eblaze – Old Testament. The law was different then.
      @ PC – Jesus told us to love each other. God will make sure people get what they deserve.

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 11:28am

      memphis

      You assault me and God will give you whats coming to you through me. I gurantee it. No personal offence.

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    • vta
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 6:30pm

      PC – I’ve got a better idea – why don’t you come out from under your rock for a trip to Birmingham and experience some Jewish Mother justice. I’m sure I could administer it quite well.

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  • mrmikejohnson
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 6:51pm

    We really need to get rid of “hate crimes” and thought crimes once the dumbocrats are out of power. Either you broke a law or you didn’t. Beating up a gay guy shouldn’t carry any more of a sentence then beating up a normal guy.

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 9:30pm

      Should not be any penalty at all if he was a homosexual trying to molest this young man. Thought I would yank your chain.

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    • webpreacher
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 9:40pm

      MRMIKEJOHNSON,

      Hate, has been the driving force for violence since Cain slew Abel way back there in Genesis 4:8 ! So, how do you suppose to get rid of hate crimes, or as you said and also thought crimes? You can’t get rid of that which is part of mankinds makeup, part of our emotional makeup, so you would need to figure out a way to rid the world of the idea of hate, which you will never do. You would have to get everyone to Love everyone else, Love each other, a selfish love, even the Biblically principle of Love, and if you could do that, then you would be Christ like. That is the only way you would get rid of “hate crimes”, for then no one would feel hate toward another, thus no hate cirmes!
      __________________________________________________

      Just so you’ll Know,

      Bruce // servant to King Jesus…………………….. Our ensample on, Biblical Love !….“sacrifice”

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 9:51pm

      Webpreacher

      You have got to be the most lame excuse for a preacher I have ever run accross. The guy was talking about hate crimes and their racist use against Anglo type Americans. Are you that in the dark. FOOL

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  • webpreacher
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 6:50pm

    Murdering a 70 year old,,or ending (murdering) a life in the womb, which do you think angers the Lord God more ? Neither, sin is sin, God is not pleased with any sin, and sin is defined as any action, word and or thought, that is contrary to His holiness and rightousness and that opposes His will and pupose for mankind.
    ____________________________________________________

    Just so you’ll know,

    Bruce // servant to King Jesus……………… my Lord and my Savior

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 9:27pm

      “Sin is transgression of Gods Law”. Thay is the definition from the Bible. Seems you are taking liberties with that definition of yours.

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    • webpreacher
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:51pm

      Exactly PCBEDAMNED, But tell me this, what Laws Biblically speaking, and how many where there?

      Also, did you know that The New Testament believer is NOT under the Law, and do you even know what THAT means, Mr. self righteous ?

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 11:25am

      webpr
      Ten 10 Commandments. Is that clear.
      Since you are not under the law I guess you can kill and commit adultery any time you want. Please someone keep this guy away from children and small animals. FOOL

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  • mpsnknox
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 6:38pm

    Absolutely Disgusting!

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:08pm

      mpsn

      Let me ask a question. Are you as repulsed by a doctor ripping a living human apart while it is still in its mothers womb all the time trusting it has a loving mother who will protect it?

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    • vta
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 9:54am

      PC – Please refer to the above re souls residing with God, to whom they eventually return.

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  • cheezwhiz
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 6:36pm

    Did Thomas really murder his neighbor because he thought his religion demanded it?
    ————–
    Is he a muslim ?
    NO. NO
    Conclusion : he did it for religious reasons

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    • sleazyhippo
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 9:14pm

      Dear Ms Whiz- it is indeed Interesting that your analysis is actually good at explaining why this site carries this “story!” While we almost routinely ignore your regular posts, this time we are just compelled to actually reply and to credit you with a defensible explanation for having this salacious story contained in here. Good Job! (smile) Keep up the good work (grin)! Say Cheese!

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    • eventual
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 12:05am

      SleazyHippo,

      Although it is quite apparent that you amuse yourself, I don’t think anyone else is laughing.

      Bottom line: you’re not funny.

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  • obama_binpharteen
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 6:34pm

    Well I think we all know how this is going to be reported by the lame stream media. White man kills because the Bible told him to.

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  • Mike Whittington
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 6:33pm

    What can you say about a story like this. One can only see the “dark side” of people when you read it. Here’s to knowing that there are still “GOOD” people out there.

    http://www.ISeeDanger.com

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:04pm

      Mike
      Don’t fool yourself, even the word of God says all our hearts are full of lies and murder. Thats you too.

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    • webpreacher
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 11:11pm

      Hey PCBEDAMNED;
      You my friend haven’t got a clue of what your talking about ! Hate Crimes are NOT restricked to “anglo type american” as you so stupidly claim. and it would have had nothing to do with racism since he was commented on the Thomas murder case, that being the subject of this forum. As far as my Preaching is concerned, you know nothing about me nor my ability to Preach God’s Word, especially seeing how that I‘ve only shared some truths found in God’s Word without any “preaching”.

      So lighten up Fella !

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  • J.C. McGlynn
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 6:33pm

    I do what the voices in my head tell me to do. It will be another reason for the (prog)ressives to hate Christianity. Or any religion for that matter.

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    • walkwithme1966
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 7:25pm

      Progressives don’t hate Christianity – many of us are devote Christians just as you are. That is a sweeping generalization and should not be applied to all progressives – I really resent that!
      http://wp.me/pYLB7-KX

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    • The1776er
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 9:43pm

      Not all progressives hate christians, that’s true. But the thing is, true christianity is not compatible with progressivism. After all, progressivism is government based on theft, which is against the ten commandments.

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 9:46pm

      Walkwi

      Yea real christian liberal progressives who rejoice in the womans right to kill their innocent unborn child or rejoice in the lord with their pervert homosexual neighbor or …Talk to the hand

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    • USAMama
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 12:46am

      Right on PC~ It isn’t possible. I can think of 5 commandments right off the top of my head a progressive can’t keep:

      #1. You shall have no other Gods before me. (Progressives worship the earth over God)
      #6. You shall not murder (abortion, euthanasia)
      #7 You shall not steal (redistribution of wealth)
      #9 You shall not give false testimony (such as the world is going to end because of Global Warming)
      #10 You shall not covet your neighbors belongings (again with the redistrubution of wealth, class warfare)

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    • USAMama
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 12:48am

      Oops! I meant that for THE1776ER But what the heck, your both right ;)

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    • tifosa
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 9:32am

      Whatever the brand of “Christianity” that’s represented by many in here is not what I learned growing up Catholic.

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    • vta
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 9:51am

      PC: Your comment:Yea real christian liberal progressives who rejoice in the womans right to kill their innocent unborn child or rejoice in the lord with their pervert homosexual neighbor or …Talk to the hand – this is ridiculous. Nobody is all “Yea, abortion! Let’s all go get one!”. Also, as I recall, aren’t Christians commanded to “Love one another as I have loved you”? And USAMAMA: your comment:Right on PC~ It isn’t possible. I can think of 5 commandments right off the top of my head a progressive can’t keep:
      Let me fill you in on a little something. I’m Jewish. You’re misreading our rules. Your “Old Testament” is our Book.
      You shall have no other Gods before me. (Progressives worship the earth over God): Bullcrap. Google the Shema.
      You shall not murder (abortion, euthanasia): We Jews traditionally believe that one gains his soul when they draw the breath of life. Until then, the soul is with God.
      You shall not steal (redistribution of wealth): You can’t possibly be serious. We were commanded to leave part of the harvest for the poor to glean from the fields. When animals were sacrificed in the Temple, the meat was given to the poor. Google Tzedakah.
      You shall not give false testimony (such as the world is going to end because of Global Warming): Again, Bullcrap. This literally means perjury.
      You shall not covet your neighbors belongings (again with the redistrubution of wealth, class warfare): Bullcrap yet again. This regards being thankful with that which God has blessed you and not cursing your fellow man (and God – think about it) through the act of jealousy, which is the root of many evils.

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 11:22am

      Vta
      You state my case again. What a load of crap you believe in.

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    • vta
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 2:38pm

      So, Judaism is a load of crap?

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    • vta
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 2:47pm

      And, PC – what EXACTLY is a load of crap?
      Were Christians commanded to “Love one another as I have loved you” or were they not?
      Do you think you know the Ten Commandments and all the ennui involved in those more than I? Again, to point this out:
      You shall have no other Gods before me. (Progressives worship the earth over God): Bullcrap. Google the Shema. DID YOU GOOGLE IT? DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT IT MEANS?
      You shall not murder (abortion, euthanasia): We Jews traditionally believe that one gains his soul when they draw the breath of life. Until then, the soul is with God. DID YOU EVEN GOOGLE THIS? The BIG TEN were address to Jews. Judaism traditionally holds the above stated believe about the soul – did you look up anything about this??
      You shall not steal (redistribution of wealth): Does the Bible demand that apart of the harvest be left for the poor to glean from the fields or not? When animals were sacrificed in the Temple, the meat was given to the poor. Google Tzedakah. DID YOU GOOGLE IT??
      You shall not give false testimony (such as the world is going to end because of Global Warming): Again, Bullcrap. This literally means perjury. AGAIN: The BIG TEN were addressed specifically to Jews. They are the rules for civilized society. Perjury (the taking of an oath and then proceeding to LIE) is a no-no.
      You shall not covet your neighbors belongings (again with the redistrubution of wealth, class warfare): Bullcrap yet again. WHY DON’T YOU JUST GOOGLE “COVET”?
      Do you even know what google is? It can be a good source for general info. Do yourself a favor and at the very least do a google search b/f you make the amazing comeback of “what a load of crap you believe”.

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  • marine249
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 6:32pm

    this kid is just plain sick

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 6:35pm

      Does it matter why someone commits murder? It is still murder, no matter what the reason.

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    • GBMBulletsSKNRD
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 6:45pm

      Fisrt off this is no kid and he needs a first class gas attack. Then rot in hell where he belongs.

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    • Robert-CA
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 6:47pm

      Death penalty , I don’t want to pay for his food – drink -medical care for the rest of his life , again death penalty he deserves it .

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 6:50pm

      Murder is murder, simple as that.

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    • Lucy Larue
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 6:53pm

      Using religion as a scapegoat? Did anyone really need to ask that question?
      Scapegoat, schmapegoat, his reason ain‘t flyin’.

      He murdered a 70 year old man with a sockful of rocks! Those are the facts.
      When you’re 28 years old and a 70 year old man makes sexual advances(If the poor guy even did),you just say “Nah,I’m not that kinda guy”.
      John Joe Thomas is a murderer! May his trial be soon. May justice be swift!
      Poor, poor, Mr. Seidman. So sad.

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    • Patriot Z
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 7:17pm

      darmok…actually yes. Y? becaue when the left runs with this they will say “see you evil christians hate homosexuals” when he gets to court his lawyer will say “see he heard voices hes crazy and not responsible”. but really this was just prob about money or some lil punk that was so scared of being called gay. either way if hes convicted..i was gonna say i hope he is killed. but for him i hope he is thrown into prison where he is raped and beaten on a daily basis with no hope of ever changing. sorry but im tired of toleration and pity

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    • thetreyman
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 7:19pm

      so mr hubert wont be on family guy anymore?

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    • Creestof
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 7:40pm

      If he is worried about homosexual advances…he is just going to HATE prison life!

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    • sleazyhippo
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 9:07pm

      Here we go again, more news, by the way “Please buy Gold” -we need the revenue to bring you more news.

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    • LAM2
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 9:15pm

      Let’s see….prior to the murder the killer received power of attorney and became sole beneficiary of the victim’s will. Can you say premeditated??

      His chances for exoneration would be higher if he claimed he was striving to be Sharia compliant.

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    • colonial10
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:01pm

      I guess the kid forgot to look at the ten commandments. Thou shalt not kill. It doesn’t say thou shalt not be gay. Anyways after Jesus came he said that he is the way, the truth and the light. That no man could enter the Kingdom of God unless it was through his name. Being gay is looked down upon from man but man has a choice. They can either suffer the consequences of being gay or not. It is not up to us to judge anyways. Poor kid, someone taught him poorly. He had many bad role models I assume.

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    • PlanetXenu
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:39pm

      it also doesn’t help that the old testament speaks out against homosexuallity (read Leviticus) so it is believeable that he would plan to murder him, but gain his stuff. sounds like the kid might have done some sexual things to get close, use the power of attorney and then murder him and save face by not admitting sexual encounters. this kid is evil.

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    • Hobbs57
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:59pm

      It’s all BS, they were having a sexual relationship, period. The kid felt dirty about it and being the benificiary of the man says it all. He though he could pull it off and had to come up with a reason. He couldn’t just say he did it for the money. Who knows the whole story here, either way something very fishy is going on. Did the guy put him in the will as hush money ?? I mean, something isn’t adding up.

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    • USAMama
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 12:35am

      I don’t believe the gay smear, I think he killed the guy in cold blood for his money and then added insult to injury with the gay story. Yes, the left will use this, unfortunately, to paint all Christians in a bad light and it will be held up as a hate crime/ terrorist attack. May God help us all.

      Its truely sad what people will do in the name of money, this crime was not commited because this guy was worshipping God, this crime happened because this guy was worshipping money. You can not serve two masters.

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    • NancyBee
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 12:38am

      He looks like a kid…….but he’s 28 years old….he is not a kid……he’s a murderer…..but I do believe something was going on here

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    • Sparhawk
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 2:12am

      @Robert-CA: If murder is bad, why is state-sanctioned murder (oops, the “death penalty”) OK? A bit hypocritical, don’t you think? Are you saying that some people just deserve to be murdered? I was under the impression that “an eye for an eye” was discontinued back in Christ’s time.

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    • t00nces2
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 7:37am

      Damn religious nuts, clinging to their socks and stones!

      Whan will people realize that stones need to be outlawed!

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    • MemphisViking
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 8:09am

      @ Sparhawk – maybe you should familiarize yourself with a dictionary. Murder is the unjustified killing of a person. Execution by the state is not murder. Or are you one of those people who always refer to self-defense as murder too?

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    • My-Hero-is-Allen West
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 8:42am

      It’s simple, a bullet in the head will fix this. No need to waste time and money on him.

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    • tifosa
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 9:24am

      EEENTERESTING!! The comments would be VERY DIFFERENT if he was MUSLIM I’d wager!!

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    • tifosa
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 9:27am

      AND, I’d bet this thread would have gotten more comments :)

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    • Mee the People
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 1:41pm

      according to the facts he was “socked” to death

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    • jzs
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 9:22pm

      I believe the relevant passage from the Bible is, “If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB). If you believe that in that the Bible in its entirety is the Word of God, the punishment for homosexual behavior is clear and unambiguous.

      Somewhere on the internet there is the radical Muslim equivalent of the Blaze, and there is posted this same story. And the people that post there say that murder for homosexuality if the command of the Christian God. And they say further that all Christians believe this. And they say they everyone who believes in Christ, if they are true Christians, believe that all homosexuals should be killed. And then they talk about how evil the Christian religion is and how all Christians want to kill homosexuals, and adulterers (Leviticus 20:10 NLT) or anyone who follows another religion – Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB).

      And they talk about how evil Christians are and say every Christians is evil.

      And you know what? They sound just like the Islamaphobes on this website. Like you.

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