‘Stop With the Damn Birth Certificate!’ Beck Delivers Strong Message to Birthers
- Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:00pm by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee published a farewell-to-Glenn-Beck chalkboard earlier this week (read our story about it here). But there was a glaring error on that board, pictured below:
In the bottom right corner, it suggests that Beck is a birther — one of those who doesn’t believe the president was born in this country. That couldn’t be further from the truth. And just in case anyone doubted that, Beck made it quite clear on radio today when he delivered a message to those who do question the president’s citizenship.
“Stop with the damn birth certificate!” he said. “Stop!” According to him, it is a non-issue that only detracts from the real problem in America, which is progressives fundamentally transforming America.
“If you’re going to lose your country– we’re going to lose it on a birth certificate?” he asked. “You have a real opportunity to talk about American exceptionalism … instead you’re going to waste time on the birth certificate?”
“You’re out of your mind if you think that is a winning argument for the next election. You’re out of your mind. You have to go fight the battle on the principles of America!”
Beck said he doesn’t think Obama is a “Manchurian candidate,” and reaffirmed his belief that the president was born in America. Listen to the impassioned plea below:
Beck’s anti-birther position isn’t anything new. As Mediaite notes, he has been denouncing the movement since 2009. In addition, he and his co-hosts often make fun of the idea by joking that it’s just as legitimate to say the president may have been born in Newfoundland.
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JJCon
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:21pmThe Birther issue should not be used to accuse Obama of being a foreigner, but rather it should be tied to Obama’s bigger problem of secrets and lack of transparency.
Trump has usurped the issue and isn’t making a good case of it.
Report Post »felina g
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:56pmTrump is a “Perot Stink-a-roo”.
I fell for that once…………shame on me.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 2:50pmYou can here O say it himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8&feature=player_embedded
Report Post »eat-more-bacon-USA
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:19pmWhen and if Barry ever decides to release his actual birth certificate then the issue will go away – - Until then, Americans should keep asking questions. Perhaps Mr. Beck should direct his anger at Barry, not the American people – ( Barry works for us ).
Report Post »DawnyP
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:39amRight on! This certainly isn’t the issue that is in the forefront of my mind day-to-day regarding Obama, but it is such a simple requirement I see no reason why he should not be required to submit. For those of us who don’t believe that a person should be exempted from complying with the laws of the land simply because they are in a position of power, Beck’s outrage over this issue is quite puzzling.
Report Post »Blipvert
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:18pmOh man, does this mean Beck is a Communist Marxist Liberal as well? Have they converted him!! Oh God help us all!! Only The Donald can save us now!!
Report Post »PaConserve
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:18pmSorry Glenn..love ya on most things, but not this time. It’s part of keeping our principles by wanting proof on this issue.
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:18pmI think “the stink” needs to be put to rest.
I also think that it should be clear that NOBODY gets elected president (going forward) who does not OPENLY qualify for the position.
I also think that this is a matter for the states to handle and they are handling it quite nicely with their new laws surrounding this issue.
I would question anyone’s loyalty to this country, who tells you that you SHOULD NOT back the efforts of the states in ensuring a qualified president be elected. If they tell you to “let the matter drop”, then tell them that you will stop harping about it. But if they tell you that you should try to get your state to drop the issue of ensuring all presidential qualifications are verified and trustworthy, by enacting legislation to force the case — you had better tell them to go take a ‘flying duck’. :-)
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:18pmSORRY GLENN….I know YOU don’t think there is anything SPOOKY about HIS origin…but I sure do!
Report Post »A guy with no childhood friends, pictures, teacher’s memories; several names; using passports at a time when US CITIZENS could not get them; applying to schools for FOREIGN AID, claiming he was FOREIGN STUDENT; Saying so on VIDEO from IL. SENATE (on TAPE) “I am not eligible to run for Pres” in response to some reporters question …was on YOUTUBE; Wife saying “His Homeland (referring to KENYA); Dispute about which of two hospitals this supposedly happend at; Grandma in Kenya saying she witnessed his birth; and people as solid as ALAN KEYES investigating; but more than anything: SPENDING $TWO MILLION dollars to HIDE his Birth Certificate …. Donald Trump is correct…anyone can change any files regardless of how far back they go if they know how….and many do. WHO is this man in the WHITE HOUSE? Why won’t he just show his Birth Certificate.
PPS: This is NOT the main issue…but it could be…he‘s not supposed to be in office or he’s the Anti-Christ (who just appeared) …Since I believe in Revelations’ teachings…I can believe almost anything about him. HE talks like the ANTI-CHRIST; HE moves like the ANTI-CHRIST; HIS EYES (the mirror to one’s soul) are pure EVIL…EVIL. SO don’t YOU go telling US what to believe when many of us have spent a lot of time digging through pages of records and comparing things like the TIME LINE and the US PASSPORT issuing records, and have seen the foreign aid application to Occidental College (Obama’s first) … YOU don’t have to believe it…fine. We don’t say you do. BUT the only people who approved this guy were PELOSI (yeah, right) and FEINSTEIN (more ?) something stinks… YOU stick to educating us about the CONSTITUTION and our FOUNDING FATHERS and the MUSLIM quest to take over the WORLD, we get it that you don’t agree, but since we’re not SHEEPLE…we are entitled to our own belief… there are Millions who agree with me that Obama is a MUSLIM WOLF in SHEEP’S CLOTHING, Sponsored by GEORGE SOROS and Communists/Socialists/Marxists brain washed by COMMIE PLANTED PROFESSORS in YALE, et al and his goal is to destroy EVERYTHING GOD made. I will be the first to apologize if I see a real, and I mean forensic experts (several of them) testimony that it’s real.
Scalzo
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:37pmGood lord! Your post is full of half truths, illegitimate, unsopportable conclusions, and made up “facts”. Please step outside of the extreme right wing echo chamber. That much paranoia can not be healthy.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:40pmGood post, the foreign student thing always stood out to me, I’d like to know if he ever applied for a foreign grant /student aid.
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:42pmSo how is the institutional life treating you? At least you have internet access, but I think they need to adjust the meds just a little.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:00pmScalso, this isn’t a right wing thing. It has zero to do with political philosophy and everything to do with paranoia or conspiracy enthusiasm. The certainty that important things are being covered up and uncovering them is a righteous mission can lead to a total loss of perspective in which one implausible fact becomes as likely as any otther fact.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:45pmWhatever you think of the President’s politics, I think he has nice eyes. Maybe poor Patty is seeing the mirror of his own soul.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:22pmScalzo: Maybe scalzo, simpletruths and islesfordian will take time to address the issues which Patty pointed out instead of just driveling all over the board with their halfwitted comments. I’m sure they have all the truth? lol
Most thinking educated people that are not relying on their welfare checks from obama realize that there is something stinky about this man and the people around him.. More than just common stinky marxists..
btw patty, my reading of the Bible and prophecy leads me to think that the anti christ will be a homosexual jew? Although I realize i’m labled as an anti semite I think that is a pretty common interpretation. Not just trying to be ugly or smart..
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:36pmWOW !! Hate him that much huh ? ummm I don’t like obama in the least either but you need a little help .. really I’m serious go seek help. eyes pure evil. sheesh !!
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:39pmThe Application that OBAMA made to OCCIDENTAL COLLEGE (LA) listed his request for foreign student aid, as a foreign student. IT was all over YOU TUBE in 2009. May still be there. YOU can see the transcript. AND STUPID, HEAD IN THE SANDERS… This is not about HATE, duffus’s this is about LOVE. I LOVE MY COUNTRY and it’s been very difficult watching this jerk who tossed his bouquet at the 9/11 pond on 9/11,2008 and his arrogance, his lies and his ineptness take everything I love and shred it. THAT’S what OBAMA is doing. HE sure as HELL did not grow up in the USA…he knows 0 about our country except what his handlers SOROS and FRANK DAVID have filled him with…and his buddies Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers. YOU DO KNOW that MICHELLE worked with BERNADINE in a Chicago Law firm before OBAMMY joined it… that was about 1989… but he just happened to meet AYERS in his neighborhood 10 years later…right. DOPES. THEY‘VE BEEN PLANNING THIS SINCE the late 80’s. GET A CLUE.
Report Post »Jacent
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 9:24pmPatty, props to you, young lady. GLEN, PLEASE CONSIDER PATTY’S POST. OMG, YOU. OF ALL PEOPLE, SHOULD BE ABLE TO FERRET OUT A SCAM, AND THIS PRESIDENT IS A SCAM. He is a Muslim, as recently evidenced by his taking off his jewelry, watch and wedding ring, during Ramadan. WAKE UP GLEN! And, the evidence is undeniable that he WAS NOT BORN IN THIS COUNTRY. Sheesh, how can it be more clear? Your rants about how to address the problems with the current administration are ridiculous if we can simply impeach him based on non-birth. He will not have second term. If you go on the current course, he WILL have a second term because he has much more money and experts than you.
I am a recoverin alcoholic, like you; please, START A NON-BIRTH CAMPAIGNE AND DON’T LET THE ESTABLISHMENT DISUADE YOU. Don’t you think that the Donald has done even more research than YOU on the subject? Grow up.
Report Post »diggyorange
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:17pmIs funny how glenn spent so much time telling folks to check things out. Leave no stone unturned . Go with your gut. Dont be afraid . He spends so much time laying out the case for us with issue after issue , but this one its just STOP ! Come on people since when has glenn every issued a demand without LOTS and LOTS of proof, black board , props , hours of air time to prove make his case for his positions but this one ………….. JUST STOP . Huh funny how now all of a sudden he has no time.
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:29pmSheesh !! He‘s not GOD he’s not demanding anything of you or anyone else.. Thats the problem, you all think Glenn is like ilsefordian the second coming..
Report Post »miles from nowhere
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:16pmIt is OK Beck you do not need to know, but I am interested from this point of view, if he is not legally a president HE does not belong in thhe most powerful position in the US. We have enough grief from him being anti-American in to many ways. So what is next for someone to be president an illegal alien from Mexico with ties to the DRUG Cartel, good grief people I am really tired of the bleeding heart BS in this country.
Report Post »silquin11
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:16pmNO Glenn! YOU stop it! You have been poundingUS for months telling us to “question with boldness”! Isn’t that what YOU said only like a zillion times? You did not say “question with boldness what I am comfortable with, or prefer to hearing?!” . So, we are entitled to question stuff that is only to your likening? GIMMME A BREAK! Arguments are not simply for your personal enjoyment. You feel entitled to put YOUR opinion out there and question everything you focus on. WE, The People have the same right. So YOU STOP IT WITH the “birther” thing. let it go. If you don’t want to be part of it FINE! But don’t you DARE ASK US TO STOP questioning something we consider as SEEKING TH TRUTH!
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:19pmAmen !
Report Post »Scalzo
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:40pmThere‘s no ’truth’ here. And even if he engaged this lunacy and requested his long form certificate (which he can’t legally obtain from HI according to their law), you’d all say it was a fraud anyway!
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:46pmHe wants you to question with boldness but also know which questions matter.
The latter is what you all seem to ahve a problem with because:
1. You are wriong on Obama’s citizenship. The birth certificate doesn’t matter. Even if it said he was born in Kenya he would still be a natural born citizen under the present U.S. Codes definition of natural born citizen
2. Even if you could prove that he wasn‘t qualified to run as President he wa elected anyway and it’s a pure FANTASY to think any Court is going to throw him out or nullify the actions of his administration. It just won’t happen. stop sniffing the glue and wake up.
3. it distracts us from the real issues that MATTER and makes all conservatives look like obsessed fanatics or forces them to spend hal;f their time distancing themselves from you.
You might as well be on Soros’ payroll because, f I were he this is exactly what I would want my opposition doing. As a conservative Republican it would delight me no end if all the democrats became 911 Truthers. We would barely have to sweat the campaign.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:24pmFor those who are interested in the facts about the meaning of natural borm citizen
http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:40pmsilquin11: I love it! GB’s hypocrisy is being exposed by his own followers!! GB is just wrong on the issue. He’s in on the cover up. Obama’s probably just a Bastard and is ashamed to show the long form but maybe he was born over sees.. But wasn’t his father and Englishman? Woudln’t that make Obama a dual citizen? You can’t be president and be a dual citizen can you?
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 7:39pm“You can’t be president and be a dual citizen can you?”
Apparently, you can. There’s nothing in the Constitution or Federal statute preventing it.
Report Post »ed0315
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:16pmAh I figured this would happen. I was wondering why Becky was cuddling up with the hack O’Reilly. A non-issue, really? I think it is part of the whole problem with this guy and to ignore this countries due diligence and complete apathy toward the issue is actually making part of the whole problem. Maybe he was/wasn’t born here, but the fact remains any other person would have had to supply it and he won’t, as he also will not supply anything related to his schooling. So Becky wants us to only take up what he wants us to and forget the rest? You honestly, with conviction believe he was born here? Seriously? Wow, amazing, so convinced! And on what little Becky? What convinces you? Please share. For a mere brief moment I had hopes for you until I saw you with the Geritol consuming O’ Reilly. Did you also pat Bill on the back for one of the most softball presidential candidate interviews in the history of media? When is it your turn?
Report Post »welovetheUSA
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:14pmLets resolve this……….show the birth certificate, period. And all college paper work..I remember seeing the tape on national TV when the reporters where at black grandmas house….she said on TV Obama was born in Kenya……it was cut off. Why is he going to such huge lengths hidding his personal information….sorry, I want to see it all……..now.
Report Post »OneRepublic4us
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:05pmI believe there are a lot of things in Barry‘s past that his handlers don’t want the American people to know. I bet his faith is listed as Muslim and there’s no doubt in my mind that his school records are hidden because they show he is a card carrying communist and a piss poor student at that.
Report Post »Cabo King
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:13pmthe only reason Obamacus doesnt want his birth cert seen, is because under relegion its marked (m) which means he’s a muslim!!! a koran toting muslim!!!!!!
Report Post »Mr. Nice Guy
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:54pmDoes a birth certificate even list religion? Maybe it does, I don’t know. If so, it would be the religion of the parents because the infant has made a choice.
Assume that he was born Muslim because of his parents. He converted to Christianity in Rev. Wright’s church. At least that’s what he tells us. Why would he lie about that? He hasn’t lied to us about anything else, has he?
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:00pmNot to my knowledge. That information is irrelevant to one’s birth. And actually, as a newborn baby, how could you have a religion? Religion is a choice, not an inheritance.
Report Post »Mr. Nice Guy
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:05pmRight, JJ. I left out “not.” The infant has NOT made a choice.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:13pmRight Mr Nice.
Report Post »And I dont see how something “optional” or choice based would be on a BC.
It’s a factual document.
stormcrow53
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:14pmTaquiyyah. Look it up.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:24amFirst of all, you spelled it wrong. It’s Taqiyya.
Secondly, what does that have to do with the Birth Certificate?
Religion is a choice. Matters of choice do not go on a birth certificate, regardless if whether you want to hide that information or not.
Report Post »gardenerme
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:13pmHow about the misspelling of oligarchy and conspiracy?
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 11:40pmIt‘s a bust on Glenn’s misspells http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-D_S7WOnjg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng9uRpt94Pk etc.
Report Post »Ira WIlson
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:12pmI agree with HAUSCHILD. While I will exert not one ounce of energy toward proving or disproving Obama’s qualification for the Presidency of the United States, I am not about to stop those who are willing to do the digging for me. I have no opinion either way, but am interested in the answer beyond words.
Report Post »TennesseeConservative
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 11:25amThe issue right now, is we have to present our birth certificates, to get a drivers license. If you have moved after the attack of 9-11. I have 2 times. Had to present proof of citizenship, in South Carolina, then when I came back to TN. My daughters also. It seems this man is above the law.
Report Post »People can say it is a non issue, that does not make it true. So Joe average has to show proof for the privilege of driving, but not to be President. This is absurd. No one is above the law. Until now.
Impeach Obama
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:11pmHey, Let the truth be known. One way or the other.
Report Post »lynnissmart
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:24pmImpeach Obama: I am all for impeaching him ……how? Please let me kow if you have any thoughts.
Report Post »StevenL1955
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:09pmWHAT??? I finally dis-agree with Glenn on something?
I still agree with Glenn 99.99% of the time though
LOVE YA GLENN!!!! Don’t stop
Report Post »donh2
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:55pmThese are the kind of positions Glenn takes that expose him as being a wholly owned agent of George Soros and the NWO cult…The ultimate progressive agent co-opting the anti progressive movement . Beck’s mission in life is to steer us into the ditch of failure by making our resistance cowardly and futile. Note how Beck also pulled NPR out of the fire by attacking O‘Keefe’s expose…and all the other things Beck does to backpeddle our gains. BECK is PART of the problem . He is NOT to be trusted. The real Glenn Beck is the man on this book cover… http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/20090824BeckBook.jpg
Report Post »stormcrow53
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 9:25pmI will not speculate on why Beck says what he says or does what he does. He must, as we all must, follow that which is inside us all. I may disagree with some of the things he says or does but I will not disrespect what he has accomplished if for only one reason. I have never heard any other media personality say, “Don’t believe me. Look it up yourself. Do your own homework.” I have been doing my homework since before I had even heard of Beck. I can show you articles about Soros and George Bush and Harken Energy that will give you pause. I think Bush passed that test, intentionally or not. So Soros has bought another politician. But I digress. I don‘t think anyone else has ever said do your own homework and don’t believe me. Look it up yourself. Regardless of what you may believe you must admit that that is admirable behavior. So do it, your own homework, that is and if Beck follows his heart to his own battle with evil remember those honest and singular admonitions and heed his advice. And give thanks for such patriots in this imperfect world. The trolls and flying monkeys will try to diminish and denigrate our will and unity. E pluribus unum, patriots. And the trolls be damned.
Report Post »stormcrow53
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:04pmAnd besides eating twigs and drinking cat blood is bound to make you cranky.
Report Post »diggyorange
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:09pmIts not the birth Cert thats the only issue GLENN ! There is much more. before you knock us who think something is up , why dont you look into it and disprove this stuff .
You not scared of any other issue .
I wonder why you wont take the issue on?
SHUT UP Glenn you dont have the right to tell us what to believe and what not to .
Do a show on it if your so upset over it and prove the “ Birthers” wrong.
Report Post »You’ve got the folks to check it all out, dont you? YOU’VE got the best.
Come on GLENN take the challange.
lainpa
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:00pmI agree with you, Diggyorange. If he as all these researchers, why not disprove the theory? WND.com has done a lot on this issue. Is it a winning issue to hang our hat on? probably not. But it goes to the constitiution. do you stand by it or not Glenn? I hate when he says stuff like this because he is alienating half of his audience. I turn it off then. It almost seems like he is going hostile on us when all we seek is the truth.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 6:18amI think he probably has looked into all this birther stuff and found that it was all a bunch of hogwash. I suspect he turned his research team loose on this a long time ago and they learned that every alleged fact and every crackpot legal argument used to prop up every stupid birther theory was completely and demonstrably wrong. I believe that he’s too honest to do a show entirely based on stuff he knows to be untrue, but not quite honest enough to anger his employers who hired him as an anti-Obama hatchetman, as well as the thousands of fans who are even crazier than he is, by devoting a whole show to telling truth that makes the President look good and his detractors look bad.
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:08pmNothing has been swept under the rug. It’s been a non-issue since the beginning but Tea Partiers and now dumb-a$$ Trump will simply not let it go…just like dozens of posters on this forum.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:17pmmiddleclassprophet
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:08pm
” now dumb-a$$ Trump will simply not let it go…just like dozens of posters on this forum.”
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You fit in this category like a well-made glove!
Report Post »Eblaze44
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:08pmGlenn has essentially marginalized himself. Soro’s has won is the perception if not the truth.
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:24pm@Eblaze44
Get with the program dear. Its a new game of politics. Telling someone that they have been “marginalized” is so retro. It doesn’t work these days, dear. Your demonstrating that you are sorely out of touch with today’s political theater tactics.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:57pm“dear” ?
Report Post »Lucy Larue
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 7:16pmEBLAZE44,
Report Post »Really? Soros has won?
Soros can stand by his mailbox every day. He’s won nothing. His prize “ain’t” coming.
SimpleTruths
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:08pmWow first O’Really and now Beck? Koch brothers, can’t you control your people?
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:15pmI love the Koch Brothers so leave them alone!
Report Post »Scalzo
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:29pmToo bad Dave, cause they don’t give a fig about you.
Report Post »cognitivedissonance
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:36pmNo, don’t listen to them Dave, keep licking the boots of the plutocrats, you can‘t get any scraps if you aren’t under the dinner table.
Report Post »stormcrow53
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:50pmYeah Cognitivediss, tell that to Soros and Spielberg and Sean Penn and all those other Prog million and billionaires who won’t give up a dime but are ready to tax you into serfdom. Your absolute blindness would be hilarious if wasn’t so dangerous to the rest of us. Remember Speiberg’s Lobster fest with Castro? The most important 8 hours of his life? So I suspect he gave up his millions and is living in Havana sharing the 1/4 pound of chicken per month the Castro monarchy allows their plantation slaves so they can take the savings their expats send home and whine and dine the next batch of useful idiots to land there. How is Sean Penn feeling right now with Hugo Chavez’ rule by fiat, I wonder? You can save alot of dinero by emasculating the legislature. But hey isn’t that similar to executive orders and czars? Go figure! What an ultra maroon!
Report Post »Rob
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:07pmBeck, you backed down after you called Obama a racist.. and now you want us to back down from the birth certificate. I don’t care if he has one or not. It ****** off liberals and that is good enough for me…
By the way, I think you WERE right about him being a racist.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:06pmKeep it up, loonies. You‘ll never find a candidate who can beat Obama as long as you keep clinging to this childish fantasy that you shouldn’t have to.
Report Post »Gay Tea Partier
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 5:40pmYou are right Rob, Obama is a racist and Beck should never have retracted that!
I think it‘s obvious Beck takes orders from O’Reilly and Fox should “transition” O’Reilly off the air too!
Remember O’Reilly attending Obama White House functions?
The key here is not DemoNrats or ReSmuglicans but PROGRESSIVES and they hide amongst BOTH parties, look no further that Lyndsey Graham for proof.
Report Post »Tickdog
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:07pmYeah its to late now… He is in the white house. He isnt leaving because of a birth certificate.. Odds are he will be in there for another term too.. So get ready for that. Plenty of idiots voted him with no problem, not like those idiots went away.
Report Post »Bigliardi
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:40pmI am afraid you are right….I remember thinking that Clinton couldn’t possibly win reelection…Seems the American electorate are sound-bite oriented, and vote based on what they hear last…
Report Post »Non-sequitur
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:52pmRemember that people only had two realistic options on who to vote: Obama or McCain.
Given the same choice, even knowing what I know about Obama now, I‘d still vote for him because McCain would’ve been so much worse.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:25pm@Non-Sequitor
Report Post »McCaine and Obama run with the same CFR pack of dogs, so in a sense you are correct. But as we can plainly see neither was a good choice IMHO.
I have no illusions, I know that the FIX is in so to speak. Further more when it all goes down I know precisely what I’m to do.
The only thing that remains to be seen is how many from your side will defect to righteousness before the trumpet sounds. Hopefully you will for your own sake.
stormcrow53
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 7:40pmI have observed that the Progressives always accuse people of doing exactly what they themselves are doing. Hence Ed Schultz and his paid callers scandal recently. So look at the Progressives caterwauling about Bush stealing the elections in 2000. I believe the Progressives are the thieves. From the Kennedy elections through Al Franken in Minnesota to the 7500 miscounted votes due to “human error” in the Wisconsin Supreme Court election. The Progs will stop at nothing to blindly maintain the power and agenda of their masters. The more we wake up to their criminality the more they will resort to violent methods. We see that already. They will not let the deaths of innocents stop them. If anything history shows that they prefer the culling of the herd in their re-education camps.By the millions. Be aware, forewarned and forearmed. They will put our children in their dreadful maw and spit their lifeless bodies out and their propaganda media will blame the tea party. They will commit atrocities and plant evidence pointing to conservatives. The Enemedia will parrot the message of their masters.
Report Post »The enemy is within the walls. I regret the lack of brevity.
Islesfordian
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:07pmBeck is a traitor! He’s sold out to Murdoch! We no longer listen to you Glenn!!!!!
Sorry. I thought I would put that out theer and save the birthers the trouble.
Report Post »freedomsaver
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:17pmGlenn, you asked us to ask the hard questions…. “WHERE’S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE” is a hard question…. as you thought us on your program, the CONSTITUTION is very clear on that subject. and keep in mind that the father of our chief usurper OBAMA is a KENYAN……
Report Post »Bigliardi
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:24pmActually, I am beginning to think that Beck is washed up….If you listened to him yesterday at the beginning of the first hour, for the first fifteen minutes, he and his cohorts on his show laughed and giggled like schoolgirls at this rapping jihadist or whatever. They were like teenagers trying to one up each other on this trivial subject…I think Beck has expended himself, and has nothing left….It was so pitiful and insulting to his loyal listeners, who are there for content and enlightenment, that I changed stations and listened to Laura….
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:30pmHow can Glenn “keep in mind” something that is without concrete evidence? You people leap to conclusions on the flimsiest of evidence.
Besides, it doesn’t matter. The Constitutional requirements are met WITHOUT the birth certificate as his birth mother’s citizenship status makes him a natural born citizen according to the U.S. Code which the 14th Ammendment authorizes for that very purpose.
This is your problem birthers. You acnnot let go of an obsession even when it become pointless. You insist there is purpose to it but that only is so in your imaginations where certain salient facts are ignored.
Report Post »mrclean
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:45pm@bigliardi
I made that same decision months ago. All three of them overuse sarcasm, gigling, and one-upmanship ad nauseum. I’m sick of it b/c he’s wasting our time that he could be filling with more information. Last year I commented that Beck showed signs of backing down and it could be he’s sold out. Don’t know, but I do know his radio program is useless, has been for a long time.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:46pmBigli…. since Pat has been on the radio show it has gone down. I always liked Stu, but Pat and Stu feed off each other and half the time it’s sarcasm and goofy giggling. I can’t listen to it anymore.
Report Post »Joe_Anchorage_True_American
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:57pmIf you think Beck is washed up, Big Liar … Get the hell out of here! Run over to HUFFPO or some other place. We don’t need your kind here.
Let’s take our country back!
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:01pmCalm down Joe.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:04pmHow about some FACTS not fantasy?
http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:14pmGlenn has had his life threatened. If you want to hear what has been discovered, and who all else have been threatened, listen to August 2009 archives of http://www.TheRothShow.com. There are affidavits that have been signed and certified copies made and moved out of the country to a safe place where obama’s people cannot get their hands on them.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:36pmGood Lord people, Glenns radio program has always been much more light-hearted than his TV show so I don’t see the big deal. You should be thankful for time he does give to the issues and questions that the MSM won’t raise or ask. NOBODY in TV and/or Radio has tackled the issues as he has and un-covered more than he has. Glenn is simply a messenger (and a darn good one at that), it’s up to you and I to do something with the info he gives us. You act as if you voted for him and he’s not keeping his campaign promises. FYI… He ain’t running for any office!
Be a part of “the” grassroots Tea Party event of 2011, with all 50 state’s Tea Party and 9.12 groups attending… http://www.americasteapartynews.com/freedomjamboree.php
Report Post »Edgar Bennet
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:14pmI think it‘s a bit silly the way you’re acting on the issue Isles. You don‘t think we have a right to know our President’s records? Toss the birth certificate aside and replace it w/ his transcripts. Don’t be a sycophant
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:58pmEdgar Bennet: I think he’s GBs male lover. A blind follower is worse than a liar.
Report Post »donh2
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:34pmBOOOOOOOOOOOO ! What a Hypocrite ! Rude bully pulpit censorship from a coward who made “ Question with Boldness ” his trademark.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 7:33pmHey Edgar, I am only pointing out that the birthcertificate is irrelevant for determining Obama’s citizenship. Why else do you want to look at it. Why do you think you have a right to look at it unless to determine if he was legally qualified to run. My point is that you still don’t need it to know the answer, therefore you don’t need to see it.
If you are willing to admit that point then I have no argument with you.
Report Post »DemocracyisTyranny
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:04pmYou do not need to be born on US Soil to be natural born. I dont want anchor babies to be our future presidents.
Report Post »Edgar Bennet
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 12:13amI’m for transparency, and when it‘s pretty evident that the POTUS is a Marxist I’d like to double my efforts. If for political gain than nothing else, yes I’d be happy if it listed his race as white or his last name as Soetero.
Report Post »Joe Camel
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:07pmIt would not / does not matter one way or the other. There would be riots in the street it anything were to happen to Obama politically or otherwise.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:19pmThere will be when he is DEFEATED in 2012 anyway .. either way they will riot .. .so what .. that is what we have law enforcement for … to put down violence.
Report Post »Bigliardi
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:26pm@catb…I and others like me would help law enforcement put down lawlessnes should the need arise…The storm has been gathering for some time now….I say let ‘er rage…..
Report Post »carthaginean
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:42pmYou hit the nail on the head. The number one concern for Glenn is to “save/preserve” the nation. If BHO was exposed and removed there would be riots and bloodshed beyond any our country has ever seen. But the threat of thuggery should not stop the truth. It is clear there is something wrong in the Husseins`s past and he and his “Palace Guard” in the MSM are desperate to delegitimize all inquiry. It is hugely disappointing that GB trivializes and mocks the issue. We need to save this Nation and finding out what is at the bottom of this may show us the way out. Glenn has exposed dozens of unsavory people and positions this administration harbors. Is it really that “crazy” to want to know who put this nightmare together. And the real issue is probably little Barry being adopted by Lolo and his mother never doing the legal paperwork upon returning to the States from overseas.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:44pmBring on the riots! But why will they be rioting? The American people have been here for more than a couple of years. Rioting is not going to change the U.S. Constiitution.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:29pm@BIG ..
I am “prepared” also!
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:29pmTHATS socialist for ya, try to suffocate you with BS before a fight breaks out.
Report Post »Kind of like saying ” I’m going to hit you so hard your memories will fracture!”
I’ve always been the quite guy my self…………….. 8{|
techengineer11
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:37pmAnd there should be.. Although it should be Patriots in the street not Obama’s trash.
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:41pm@ JOE … Glenn doesnt run the blaze I hate to tell you… He started it and now its in the hands of others.. Just like the tea party.. he references thing FROM the blaze as a news source just as you and I do. it’s obvious youve never heard him on radio, saying “ this from the blaze today ” then goes on about the story..
Report Post »goku17
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 11:20pmwhy can very few of you people spell words correctly or use proper subject-verb agreement? Oh yeah, you’re idiots. You’re idiots who are blatantly uneducated and have never thought for yourselves in your entire lives. As a moderate and independent you all make me fear for the conservative movement in the US. You are destroying the balance. Just don’t vote, PLEASE.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:03pmHere’s the thing Glenn: I don’t believe anybody is hanging their hat on the birther issue, but they’re also not going to let it be swept under the rug without due diligence.
Obviously, if this were such a non-story, it would have been dead and buried long ago. Instead, it has been resurrected. Let it play out and let it run its course. It bothers me not one iota.
Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:07pmI used to think the Barry Soetoro birth certificate issue was a non issue. I’m not so sure about that any longer. This President is so fundamentally dishonest I wouldn’t put anything past him.
tobywil2
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:09pmObama’s birth place is irrelevant. Unless we rid the country of his tyranny the American Revolution is doomed. http://commonsense21c.com/
Report Post »quarter horseman
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:11pmagreed!
Report Post »butler180
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:12pmNo the controversy would not be dead a long time ago BECAUSE Obama is keeping it alive by not showing his original birth certificate. He is showing the right to be nuts on the fringe with this continued controversy and this also drives clear thinking people away from the right and to him or a least his party
thepatriotdave
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:13pmhauschild
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:03pm
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Very well said. Thank you.
I understand why Glenn does this and I know he means well, but the truth is that many of us have a small part in our brain (not to be mistaken for a small brain) that wonders why Obama fights so hard to make sure the original is NOT shown.
Be a part of “the” grassroots Tea Party event of 2011, with all 50 state’s Tea Party and 9.12 groups attending… http://www.americasteapartynews.com/freedomjamboree.php
Report Post »VegasGuy
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:13pmIMO, even if it were true that Obama was not born in the U.S. (I believe he was), it would not matter to the left including the news media. He would likely be allowed to serve out his term in office.
Report Post »Obama Bin Lying
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:17pmBut you have to think about this. If it did come to light that OhBoy was a fence hopper. That would mean everything he touched in the last 20 years is illegal as well. Bills he may or may not have voted present on, not to mention the strikes on other countries, Obamacare…..it would all be a nightmare
CatB
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:17pmYour right Glenn … Let’s see where he changed his name from Barry Soretoro to Barrack Hussein Obama … when and how did he get a Conneticut Social Security number …. the list goes on and on …..how about the passport that he traveled to Pakistan on? … the list goes on and on !!!!
http://nowewont.ning.com/profiles/blogs/obama-may-have-a-criminal-past
encinom
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:17pmHere is the think Becky-Boy, you have been pushing the Birther issue with the number of articles on the subject you have here on teh Blaze. Now that it is a clear liability and has been exposed as the freak show it is, you are attempting to put the genie back in the bottle.
amero
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:19pmWhy doesn’t he just show his damn birth certificate!? I didn‘t think much of it until it wouldn’t go away, and became bigger and bigger news, and Obama could simply just show the birth certificate, but won’t. So now I truly believe that this guy might not even be a legal president which would meen everything he has done would have to be overturned as soon as its revealed he isn’t an american citizen. I have to disagree with you on this one Beck. Find the truth about this, and it could very well save the country!
momprayn
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:21pmAnother tidbit: The deal where Obama would be considered a natural born citizen if his mother was — at the time of his birth U.S. law required that she had resided in the U.S. for 10 years and at least five of which had to after the age of 16. He was born when she was 18 – so she wouldn’t have met the requirement.
Report Post »I disagree with Glenn on this one. If you could prove this, I think that would nullify the bills enacted plus of course disqualify him from being President any longer. I‘m with Trump on this and I’ve been following it for a long time. Obama’s background & parents are very convoluted, mysterious and just plain weird. He’s paid millions to keep all his records secret – why? Why doesn’t he just show it? It’s a natural question to keep asking. Rush said today Obama was and is a fraud. That’s about right, among other things. His life has been a bunch of lies. Go Trump!
rgranger
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:28pmSo, hasn’t Obama won +50% of his elections due to him finding some odd procedural or technical loop-hole? Well, even if he was born in the USA, if he can’t prove it, we should be saying “HASTA LA VISTA, BOZO!” You made the rules you play by them, even if they are dirty, sneaky and fun.
Report Post »exdem
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:28pmWe are all so hopeful he is not eligible so we can reverse ObamaCare.
Report Post »On the other hand, the left is hoping his ineligibility will not be discovered , so we can’t reverse ObamaCare.
booger71
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:29pmWhether he wasborn does not matter, his daddy was not a citizen, therefore Barry cannot be a “Natural Born” citizen according to the Constitution. His daddy was a British subject and so it makes Barry one too. A Citizen who holds duel citizenship cannot be Commander and Chief.
Report Post »cognitivedissonance
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:30pmYou folks are pretty remarkable, you actually make Glenn Beck look sane and reasonable. Amazing!
Junter
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:31pmHave to agree, it’s not the biggest issue but it does set precedence for anyone else who wishes to hold an office in our government. “Obama didn’t have t show his birth certificate so why should I?” We should expect more from our elected officials not less. The fact the Obama has remained president even though he didn’t show proof of qualifications shows how far our country has sunk.
Report Post »cognitivedissonance
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:32pmWhat is a duel citizen? Are they legally allowed to gunfight?
Report Post »rondawelch
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:33pmAgreed. Too many have ignored the issue vs legitimately investigating it. Credibility is important, let it play out.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:33pmLogic dictates that the “birth” issue is moot.
Report Post »Regardless of Obamas place of birth we have been stuck with him for over three years. No one with a clue thinks he’s good for our country, and most agree he’s detrimental to it.
The only thing a “birth” issue effects is reelection, and it appears the States are taking care of that.
Where he was born, is not nearly as important as when he will leave.
Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:34pm@CatB ~
Didn‘t I send you a copy of the email I sent to Bill O’Reilly?
@Blazers ~
When the Kenyan government discusses in its legislative session the FACT that the man usurping the White House was born on Kenyan soil, when Obama Soetoro cannot provide a long form birth certificate IN THIS DAY AND AGE, when there have been no fires to destroy Hawaii courthouses or archives, when a man has gone to Kenya and has made a sworn deposition to the authenticity of the Kenyan birth certificate he obtained for Barack Hussein Obama II, and when Barry Soetoro admits to being adopted and made an Indonesian citizen as a child and attended school in Indonesia, well, I am INCLINED TO BELIEVE that the man has a LOT to hide. He has spent roughly $2 million to keep the courts from reaching the discovery phase of his past records, and he is letting Lt. Col. Terry Lakin sit in solitary confinement in Leavenworth for six months, rather than admit to being a usurper. The man has no principles, no integrity, no allegiance to America, and no conservative friends.
“Show me your friends and I’ll show you your future.” Obama Soetoro surrounds himself with Progressive Communists.
Report Post »AlmsRace
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:34pmI love you Beck but this is a game you fight against… the right of the people is to express their concerns and passions…… Yes… Arizona just fixed this to put it in the forefront but do not be the man to govern the american people… and the birthers have been your support… Do not get caught up in the noise you helped create… Stay out and be YOU… you are great.
Report Post »Conkuur
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:34pmThe only reason it gets media play over and over is because it has no substance and thats what mainstream media loves. Lets keep laughing at the Birthers and reporting that and stay off the real issues that have real substance. Glenn is saying lets get on the real issues that are right in our faces.
Look if we dwell on the Birther thing up until election time and he does a “Whoop here it is!” It is to late to suddenly turn the people to the issues especially if you got that egg on your face.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:35pm“deal where Obama would be considered a natural born citizen if his mother was — at the time of his birth U.S. law required that she had resided in the U.S. for 10 years and at least five of which had to after the age of 16. He was born when she was 18 – so she wouldn’t have met the requirement.”
You are referencing the OLD statute. It was changed in 1986 making her status qualify to give him legal citizenship at birth. The new overwrites the old, just like with any other law. Look up the present one. Obviously you never have and are going by others’ arguments. they either did the same or they are lying.The pre-1986 statute no longer has any validity.
Report Post »SavingtheRepublic.com
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:36pm^______^______^
I agree its the wrong direction and focus, Rome is burning to the ground and this is what you want to stand on as you go out?! Too many are on this and BHO is playing every single person who falls for this birther thing HE created. Is all misdirection and diversion off his legal identity. Everyone should back off at this point and lets a few states like AZ draw a line in the sand at this point upping the requirements, reenforcing the Constitutional requirement, to prove ones eligibility.
All you have right now is a back and forth, you are a yellow fuzzy ball btwn the 2 sides of the court in this argument. I can tell you BHO or someone very close to him is one of the ppl hitting the tennis ball, you, on this. STOP playing HIS game, get out of the game and change the rules as AZ has done.
BHO or someone close to him is the driving force behind this to keep ppl from looking into whether his LEGAL name is Barry Soetoro or Barack Obama. You just cant change your name and start signing checks, contracts, applications, loans etc etc on a name not legally identified. So if your name is Jon Doe and it gets changed when you’re child to Jon Homemaker as a result of your parent with custody remarrying and you get adopted by the new parent you cant just start signing your name as an adult to the name thats on your birth certificate. You name was legally changed! Pls birthers let this go and find out for sure if his name was in fact legally changed to Soetoro and NEVER changed back when his mothers 2nd marriage failed.
Its not outrageous for anyone to consider and wasnt done maliciously on his or his families part. This makes the most sense as to why in Oct 08 rumors spread like wildfire he locked up his records when he returned to Hawaii when his grandmother was dying.
Find out his legal name if it is Soetoro he is committing identity fraud going by Obama!!
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:37pmCognitive… this story has legs for a reason.
If the only thing the digging does is prevent BO from a 2nd term, I could live with that.
Report Post »I hope the digging does result in something though. Sooner or later something’s gotta give.
Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:41pm@cognitivedissonance
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:30pm
You folks are pretty remarkable, you actually make Glenn Beck look sane and reasonable. Amazing!
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Barack Hussein Obama became a citizen of Indonesia when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro after Lolo married Barry’s mother. Barry could not have attended Indonesian schools otherwise. But, in the event that Barry had not been “formally adopted,” he became a citizen of Kenya on December 12, 1963, the same day that his father became a citizen of Kenya under the new Constitution at the time.
Barack Obama/Barry Soetoro is a FOREIGN NATIONAL. Period.
And, Mom (above), you are correct about the age and residency requirements in effect at the time of Barry’s birth. She COULD NOT pass her U.S. citizenship to her son. Barack Hussein Obama was a FOREIGN NATIONAL when he was born! He is now an ILLEGAL ALIEN.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:42pm“Glenn is saying lets get on the real issues that are right in our faces”
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I don’t get this?? Are people incapable of paying attention to more than just 1 story?
Report Post »Are people incapable of fighting more than just 1 fight?
Just because people want the truth regarding the birth certificate doesn’t mean every single other issue is being ignored. This is a ridiculous theory.
sleazyhippo
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:44pmWHO is HE to tell US what to Believe?
Report Post »BlazingInSC
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:49pm@Hauschild – He‘s not saying there’s no legitimacy for others to ask the question. What he is saying is that it is not a winnable position on which to hang your hat if you’re going to run for president against Obama AND reiterating the fact that he has denounced the “birther” label being placed on him since he’s never supported the fringe elements of the “birther movement”.
I personally agree with you. There is legitimacy to it. There’s legitimacy in supporting legislation that mandates candidates provide a long form birth certificate as part of the presidential vetting process. I also think there are legitimate questions about 9/11 that were never answered satisfactorily, but it certainly doesn’t mean I buy the conspiracy theory of government responsibility. It’s all about looking for closure to glaringly obvious problems. In each case, I would not consider myself to be a “birther” or “truther” – just a curious person who wants to know the reality – and there’s nothing wrong with that – but putting people like me on the fringe (like the DCCC is trying to do to Beck) is where the problems lie.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:49pm@BetterDays ~
I agree with you. However, “this is a program of RIGOROUS HONESTY. “And when we were wrong, we promptly admit it.”
The Progressives have been hammering out their lies in the hope that people will accept their lies as the truth. I hammer out the truth in the hope that people will see through the lies. Perhaps someone who has been drinking the Koolaid can read and understand what is going on; but if we don’t put it out here for them to read, who will tell them? Not a Progressive, that’s for certain.
Report Post »Joe_Anchorage_True_American
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:50pmYou either stand with what Glenn Beck‘s said or you don’t. But I’ll tell you what … far as I’m concerned, if you come on here and openly oppose Glenn, you’re no better than the lowliest troll. No damn better!
Some people are just pigheaded!
We hear what you’re saying, Glenn … and we’re with you. Let’s take this country back on REAL issues.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:51pm@encinom
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:17pm
Here is the think Becky-Boy, you have been pushing the Birther issue with the number of articles on the subject you have here on teh Blaze. Now that it is a clear liability and has been exposed as the freak show it is, you are attempting to put the genie back in the bottle.
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And you are full of BS. The truth is not a liability unless you are a Progressive.
The freak show is coming from the White House.
Report Post »101
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:52pmGlenn is right…what will get Obama re-elected are the Unions votes, the Hispanic votes in hope of gaining citizenship, the blacks will vote color once again, the democrats vote for the messiah of promise, half the independent “libertarian” votes, he has billions backing him and he will spend 500 billion of tax payers money to the organizations that support him, the stock market will be up, un-employment numbers will be manipulated & voter fraud that nobody can prove…with a resume like that a birth certificate is a non-issue!
Report Post »thegrassroots
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:53pmYou’re off here, Glenn. Not because you don‘t think there’s anything to the birther issue — you‘re off because you don’t think obama’s citizenship should be with-out-a-doubt determined. Too much about obama has been swept under the rug and because it’s under the rug, folks are expected to just accept and leave it there.
Intelligent people ask questions. Intelligent people keep asking questions until they are answered. If obama has no official birth certificate, obama’s not an official American Citizen. If obama’s not an American Citizen, that‘s obama’s first violation of his many violations of America‘s Constitution and obama’s the fraud most of America believes he is. If obama’s proven to be a fraud from square one, obama‘s out of the White House and obama’s in prison or deported or? America’s not asking anything more of obama than America asks of all of her citizens.
America Has A Right To Know Who Exactly Is In The White House! That Knowing Begins With: Is obama An American Citizen? And, it goes forward from there! If obama’s not an American Citizen, America’s major problem is over! obama and everything obama is off of America’s playing field!
What I don’t get, Glenn, is why you don’t get it! It’s just basic detective work — ya start at the beginning! And, if ya don’t have the beginning, ya keep looking until you find the beginning. The beginning is usually where the answers are.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:53pm@sleazyhippo
Report Post »Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:44pm
WHO is HE to tell US what to Believe?
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AGREED!
Encinom is a bit over the top, isn’t he?!
JJ Coolay
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:53pmUmm Joe…. you’re off base pal.
Report Post »Part of what makes America great and better than any other nation is the freedom to disagree.
Glenn is not the savior. Some people stand and fall with Glenn. I like the guy, but sometimes he misses the mark—-he is human after all.
Just because there is a differing opinion doesn‘t mean we’re trolls. Get serious.
AKMIIKEUS
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:54pmShowtime, Beck was talking directly at you.
You might want to pass this message on to your Army buddy doing time in the brig for refusing a direct order from our first black President. We all know the real reason he won’t go to Afghan.
Report Post »pappy
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:55pmCan somebody help out an old guy??? If it’s a REQUIREMENT to be a US citizen for eligibilty, and obummer’s eligibilty is in question, and he‘s being ASKED to PRODUCE PFOOF of citizenship and he doesn’t HOW THE HECK IS HE GETTING AWAY WITH IT?!?!? Why is congress, the FBI, the CIA,the treasury dept. and EVERYBODY not calling him out on it? For obvious reasons, the main sleeze media is no help. Why is there no FORMAL inquiry? Had something like this happened 25 – 30 years ago, the country would have come to a screeching halt. Somebody help me out here. Clarify things for me. Right now, this issue is as clear as mud for me.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:55pm“And, Mom (above), you are correct about the age and residency requirements in effect at the time of Barry’s birth. She COULD NOT pass her U.S. citizenship to her son. ”
You clearly don’t understand how the statuatory sustem works. Citizenship is not a material thing that is physically, or spiritually, “passed on” from parent to child. It is a legal concept. That concept realtes to the state’s recognition of the citizenship. When the statute is changed it changed the way the government defined citizenship status. Before 1986 Obama was a naturalized citizen. After 1986 he was reclassified as a natural born citizen. This is analogous to the change in citizen status of slaves with the 14th amendment. Before that amendment they were not citizens. After it they were natural born citizens.
But if you want to insist that citizenship is a reality apart from the law, then there is no reason why you shouldn’t conclude that Obama was a natural born citizen regardless of the statute at the time. You could easily conclude that the new change merely recognized the reality that was always there. This is silly, but no sillier than saying that his status is frozen even though the law changes.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:57pmI’m 100% with you on this birther issue.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:58pm@JJ Coolay
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:37pm
Cognitive… this story has legs for a reason.
If the only thing the digging does is prevent BO from a 2nd term, I could live with that.
I hope the digging does result in something though. Sooner or later something’s gotta give.
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Thank you for that comment. If you want to get to the truth, go here:
http://homelandsecurityus.com/feed
Mark it as a favorite because it is updated constantly. Just read, go to the links it has, and you will have to hold your jaw shut! Check the site frequently, too. Doug Hagmann will be on the radio this Saturday night (8:00 p.m., I think). The link is there, too, for the program.
Report Post »pappy
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:01pmIf, in fact, obummer is not eligible for the presidency, wouldn’t the lack of citzenship automaticaly disqualify him? It sounds like the fastest way to get this guy outta there before the country is completely down the tubes. Personally, I question if we’ll make it to Nov. ‘12…
Report Post »1959
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:02pmGlenn says, “Stop!” According to him, it is a non-issue that only detracts from the real problem in America, which is progressives fundamentally transforming America.
But the birther issue is a manifestation of Americans being too complacent and “asleep”
to notice what was happening right under our noses before Obama was elected into the office. So it is a part of the real problem and it is rightfully a huge issue.
I don‘t think there is a birther out there who thinks it makes a winning argument for the next election but shouldn’t we question with boldness why Obama has spent millions on covering this up? I think the American people have the right to know the answer to that question.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:02pmCheck it out if you really care about the truth.
http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:07pmShow… thanks for the link.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:08pm@pappy
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:55pm
Can somebody help out an old guy??? If it’s a REQUIREMENT to be a US citizen for eligibilty, and obummer’s eligibilty is in question,
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THERE’S the rub! You’re thinking “citizen” for eligibility. The term in the Constitution is NATURAL-BORN citizen.
Obama did not even have U.S. citizenship from his mother when he was born. He could have been born in the lap of Abe Lincoln’s memorial statue, but his FATHER was a British subject at the time.
If Obama had been born on the US mainland, he would have DUAL citizenship. As it happened, he was born a full British subject BECAUSE his mother did not meet age and residency requirements in effect in Hawaii to pass her own US citizenship to her son. For that reason, Obama has no Hawaii birth certificate. He was born in Kenya, according to newspaper articles in Kenya, and the Kenyan government’s own records.
Report Post »I Love Section 8 Housing
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:10pmYou birthers are really overshadowing the 9-11/JFK/Roswell crowd and they don‘t like that and they don’t like how you’ve thinned their numbers.
Report Post »AmericasContract
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:11pmIt also could be that Obama keeps letting it resurrect is that he wants everyone against him to take up the cry for the birth certificate, esp. tea party people. I think he has it and when the hue and cry rise up as a big issue, he’ll pull it out and the silence will be deafening. It‘ll show that the right and independents can’t focus on real issues and without leftist shepherds the nation will go into the toilet.
Report Post »The Scarecrow
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:16pm@ Toby
Report Post »The birth cert is irrelevant? The constitution says a president has to be a natural born citizen and it’s irrelevant?????
godlovinmom
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:18pmI will stop wondering when obama produces his original BC, I have mine, and then when he does, what took him so long, and why has he spent TWO MILLION dollars trying not to show it..I think the reason this issue is still going on, because we Americans still aren’t sure where our president was born. So Glen, you can do what you want, I still want to see his original!
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:19pm@PAPPY ~
Report Post »Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:01pm
If, in fact, obummer is not eligible for the presidency, wouldn’t the lack of citzenship automaticaly disqualify him?
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It’s not a matter of “citizenship!” It’s a matter of not being a “NATURAL-BORN’ citizen. obama is a foreign national. He is a citizen of either Indonesia or or Kenya. He does not even enjoy “dual citizenship.”
beckwasfox
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:21pmTrump is tying it to the larger issue of lack of transparency. Obama has spent over 2 million covering something up. I like Beck but he is a fool on this issue and I suspect this is why he had a ratings drop on fox. Why hasn’t he been on television all week?
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:23pmSorry Glenn, but if the Communist and Chief refuses to do something simple like show the certificate, then obviously there is something wrong……I think Donald Trump is right on this one
Report Post »pappy
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:26pm@ SHOWTIME —> Thanks, that helps. My mistake on the terminology however, where’s the public outcry? Where’s the inquiries? Why wasn’t this splashed across the front page of every paper in the US? Maybe I really have outlived my time but I firmly believe if he’s supposed to comply with the RULES & requirements to hold public office & he isn’t, it sounds like disqualifiation, inquiry & jail to me….
Report Post »Let me put it ths way….
If it was you or me, we’d be doing time in Levenworth.
How in God’s name is he getting away with this & again I ask, Why are WE THE PEOPLE not demanding compliance or OTMFD?
Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:26pm@The Scarecrow
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:16pm
@ Toby
The birth cert is irrelevant? The constitution says a president has to be a natural born citizen and it’s irrelevant?????
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THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE ***IS*** IRRELEVANT!
He did not receive U.S. citizenship from his mother; his father was a British subject. If he could not be a (dual) U.S. citizen, he is a foreign national, an illegal usurping alien in the White House. Any way you cut it, a “natural-born citizen” does not have dual citizenship!
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:26pm“You birthers are really overshadowing the 9-11/JFK/Roswell crowd”
You just don’t want the truth exposed that aliens gave birth to Obama on the grassy knoll and took down the towers to destroy the evidence.
You see, we’re on to you.
Report Post »GONESURFING
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:27pmObama, the Manchurian candidate is sure hiding something. Trump is doing the country a service on this one, and Beck, you just keep on doing what your doing, but just keep quiet on this one if that’s how you feel.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:28pm@SHOW ..
Yes and I sent it to O’Reilly also .. at his “insider” email address. He used to have that one available to all .. luckily I put it in my address book. ;-)
STRENGTH IN NUMBERS!
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:32pm@Showtime
Ah, the one where we truly grow into ourselves when we become most vulnerable to those we have harmed, I love that step!
I know, in a sense I spoke to myself as well. For it is no state secret that I like to raise a needless fuss with the trolls. I guess the quote often bandied about in church basements is applicable here as well.”for those who understand, no explanation is necessary. For those who don’t, no explanation will ever do.”.
Report Post »One area I’ve yet to research on the “birth” issue is; how will law signed into law be effected should it turn out Obama was not in fact eligible to be president and was in fact a fraud?
I haven’t “let go” but I have “let go and let GOD” on the issue.
I am also looking forwards to hearing what the Donald found.
Also I read a report that Hawaii is refusing all request for ANY long form birth records and has made them unavailable to request.
I Love Section 8 Housing
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:33pmWhat will be great is to let all you right wingers get so jacked up about the birth certificate and then whip that sucker out in october of next year and make all the swing voters think that you are an incredible bunch of wackos. Yes, that will indeed be great.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:35pm@PAPPY ~
“Where’s the inquiries? Why wasn’t this splashed across the front page of every paper in the US? ”
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The media people have been threatened. Their lives and/or careers were threatened.
It’s worth the time to listen to Doug Hagmann on the Roth Show. I put the link in somewhere, but it’s the archived shows for August 2009. You can skip over the commercials and breaks with your cursor. Also, skip over to where he’s talking. http://www.TheRothShow.com is the link. August 2009 archives. Enjoy.
Report Post »rndmrambler
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:37pmWe all agree that Mr. Obama’s mother was an American Citizen at the time of the birth. Even if this
Report Post »birth might have occurred outside the 50 states, Mr. Obama is still a US citizen. There are many
children of missionaries that are born overseas, and at birth are US citizens.
bm1967
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:40pmThat’s how I see it. Are we a country of laws, or are we a banana republic? Why everyone is so afraid to ask for what is simply required by law (for those who are fuzzy on this, our Constitution is the supreme law of the land), that is a proof of being naturally born US citizen to US citizen parents. Nothing more, nothing less. There is a reason for this clause in the Constitution. It is to prevent foreign interests from taking a hold of the highest branch of our government in order to serve them and make us subservient.. Libya, anyone? This is a taste of things to come if this impostor stays in the White House.
Report Post »stormcrow53
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:40pmOne of my principles is honesty. In war you attack on every front possible. Beck is starting to sound like Alinsky in his ridicule of birthers. I am greatly disappointed by that development. Make the Foreign Dictator spend some more of that billion dollars on his lawyers in court instead of bribing his union thugs and buying elections. Strike everywhere you can, at once, relentlessly. Do not give the Foreign Dictator a moment’s rest. Remember how Palin, Bachmann and anyone else who dares raise their voice are villified by the Foreign Dictator’s flying monkeys. Time to monopolize the airwaves. We have been much to reactionary. It is time to stand and fight on every front.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:43pm@rndmrambler
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:37pm
We all agree that Mr. Obama’s mother was an American Citizen at the time of the birth. Even if this
birth might have occurred outside the 50 states, Mr. Obama is still a US citizen. There are many
children of missionaries that are born overseas, and at birth are US citizens.
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You have not been reading what I have posted.
Go back to the top and look for “SHOWTIME” and READ!!! You will then understand.
Report Post »No1YaKnow
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:45pmI agree that we need to focus on other things—and not to worry, we DO. However, there are two people who can and should clear this up. First and foremost–let’s not forget who brought it up. HILLARY CLINTON. How about she comes to the forefront and says she was just engaging in dirty political tricks? And Obama himself. How hard is it to just release the damn thing? We know you don’t buy into it Glenn. That’s fine. But we have to ensure it never happens again. It goes to the core of the fact that the media and the DNC refused to put forth everything that should have been known about Obama. For those of us who do our own research before we head to the voting booth, this is a non-issue. However, for the fence riders, those driven to their opinions solely by media and the people who support this American hating fool out of hatred for capitalism need to know everything there is to know about him. Yes, many of them won’t care, but quite a few of them will care.
Report Post »ds7
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:45pmit might not be a “winning argument” but you have to admit it’s odd.
my guess…some other black dude is listed as barry soetoro’s baby-daddy on the birth certificate. imagine if all the “dreams of my father” were really just an illusion. that would be absolutely hilarious.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:46pmHas anyone noticed that the trolls have NOT DISAGREED WITH ME?
They know that I have more to back up what I’m saying, and they don’t want to “prime my pump!”
Report Post »Edgar Bennet
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:48pmWhat happened to questioning with boldness?
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:51pm@tobywil2
Report Post »Obamas‘s birth place isn’t the issue. His natural-born citizen status is, as is his constant attempts to avert the Constitution.
sleazyhippo
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:52pmGlenn did NOT create the Blaze (a true burning bush) so that he would be Disagreed With! If you do not want to obey, please take your ungrateful self to the huffy postpartum of daily callgir. If you LOVE Glenn you will do as he says! Not negotiable!
Have you seen our “Stand in the Blaze” Tees for only $25.00 plus tax that can be ordered by clicking at the “Blaze Store” button at the bottom of the page? These lovely Brown Shirts will wear well and look great on women and men – a wholesome ADD to the family Easter Parade!!!
Report Post »sleazyhippo
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:58pmWhen you are a birther you have a problem with Glenn.
Report Post »sleazyhippo
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:01pmShrewTime knows much more than Glenn and his research staff. You must read all SHOWTIME posts so you will understand, until then just sit down and shut up. This is a RULE for being on the Blaze. WWTGOCFD?
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:03pm@Islesfordian
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:35pm
“deal where Obama would be considered a natural born citizen if his mother was — at the time of his birth U.S. law required that she had resided in the U.S. for 10 years and at least five of which had to after the age of 16. He was born when she was 18 – so she wouldn’t have met the requirement.”
You are referencing the OLD statute. It was changed in 1986 making her status qualify to give him legal citizenship at birth. The new overwrites the old, just like with any other law. Look up the present one. Obviously you never have and are going by others’ arguments. they either did the same or they are lying.The pre-1986 statute no longer has any validity.
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The new law is not retroactive. What is in effect now stays ineffect up to the start date of new law.
What was in effect in 1961 STAYS in effect UNTIL the new law changes the requirements for those born on or after the start date of the new law. But the changes are NOT RETROACTIVE.
Report Post »beckwasfox
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:05pmWhat did happen to “question with boldness”. Does anyone know why Beck hasn’t been on his show all week? He is really the only reason to watch FOX News. I guess I will be cancelling Direct TV early.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:08pmCould not disagree with Glenn more…There is a reason why Obama has spent so much money to keep his actual birth certificate hid…we THE PEOPLE have the right to know…I’d love to find ANYTHING that could send him out of the WH in total, complete disgrace…It would be a totally different matter if the man’s life were otherwise an open book…but it is not and it has not been…he lies on a consistent basis about so many things and “pretends” to be something that he is not…SURE Glenn…it isn’t the ONLY thing…and it may not be the most IMPORTANT thing…but…the devil is ALWAYS in the details…cause my Mom said so!
Report Post »timeout
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:08pmglenn and all those who have skirted this issue are not being very attentive to why this is so important. i am sorry that glenn keeps bringing this up. i know exactly how he feels about and he needs to stop with the swipes. i have a right for the president of the united states to prove where he was born!
so back off, glenn, on this subject. other than that i have little to complain about.
Report Post »ktywack
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:13pmTotally agree with the issue not being dead.
Love you to pieces Glenn, but now I want to see your birth certificate too!
Fundamentally dishonest is a flattering description of our dear Barry.
As one of the talking heads on Fox said recently, the actual birth certificate might say Barry Sortaro (sp) in which case he has been committing fraud by using his pre-adoption name.
If it really exists and someone has seen it, they would be able to announce which hospital he was born in – at the very least. I have a copy of my birth certificate and my children’s – they have a raised official state seal on them. Come on Mr. President, quit with the games. . .
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:14pm@sleazyhippo
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:58pm
When you are a birther you have a problem with Glenn.
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I am not a birther. I am a “show me how you are a natural-born citizen” person.
When a man cannot refute the fact that his father was a British subject, the Republic of Kenya has it in their records that Obama was born in Kenya, newspapers in Kenya have printed articles about his birth in Kenya, his grandmother said she was present when he was born in Kenya, I TEND TO BELIEVE THAT OBAMA JR. IS A FOREIGH NATIONAL AND AN ILLEGAL ALIEN!
I don’t need a birth certificate to set Reason in her seat!
Report Post »MASTER YODA
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:15pmGlenn, you know I love you. But so wrong on this, you are. Major issue and we need to stop cowering, the birth certificate is when called a “Birther”. It louder I say shout.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:16pm@SLEAZYHIPPO
Dear sir madam:
Whereas I can see that you’ve a degree in sarcasm and insipid tripe that is most impressive. I think you fail to comprehend why I would post this story to be commented upon. Comprehension is important not only in reading skills but in basic communication as well so I will they to help you to comprehend. I said what I said today on the radio, and then posted the story on my own website the Blaze, correct? Now why would I do either, if I truly wanted the “birther” issue to be dropped?
Do you understand that by speaking the way I did has only caused the folks here to behave in the exact opposite manner? Are the questioning even me with boldness? They better or I will know that all my work was for nothing. Is incitfull information based in solid research being used in the arguments, yes. Thank you for listening America, the next issue I don’t want to talk about any more is George Soros.
Respectfully: the mind of Glenn Beck as seen through the lens of BetterDays.
p.s. if at all Possiable be at peace with all mankind. Be quick to forgive and remember forgiveness is first an action then a request.
Beatrice
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:18pmMr. Beck:
You are wrong. As Margaret Thatcher said once to the first George H. Bush who was wavering before the first Gulf war “Don’t go wobbly on me now George”. Don’t go wobbly on us Beck.
If the occupant in the WH was not born in the USA, he is NOT QUALIFIED to destroy this Country.
On this issue, do not get reckless. Let the cards fall where they may. To have a man who is not an American citizen intentionally obliterate the American Society, per his disgraceful speech last evening, ….IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:22pm@sleazyhippo
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:01pm
ShrewTime knows much more than Glenn and his research staff. You must read all SHOWTIME posts so you will understand, until then just sit down and shut up. This is a RULE for being on the Blaze. WWTGOCFD?
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You are a joke.
A stupid joke.
A typical liberal.
Mentally ill.
Spewing hatred.
What can you expect from a Koolaid drinker?
Sleaz, I haven’t been threatened.
Report Post »Glenn Beck has. He even said so on his television show, and he was visibly shaken when he told us about it. Sorry, but you missed my button to push it, AGAIN.
ClunkerT
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:24pmI am ashamed of you Glenn. You claim to be a lover of our Constitution and now you want to discourage people from wanting to know if this Dip Dung-in-Chief is a Natural Born Citizen. The FACT is he isn’t based upon whom he claims his father is . Of course we don’t know for sure who that may be since we do not have a legitimate Birth Certificate and must rely on his book. But if the man he claims is his father Hopey is not a Natural Born Citizen since his father was not an American Citizen. End of constitutional debate. Maybe you should have your staff catch up to the issue, they are lagging behind in the details.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:28pmGlenn,
Report Post »Just as you say the spending and broken promises of this administration has awakened the sleeping giant called the Tea Party, so have they awakened us to save justice, truth, and the American way that this regime has been trying to transform into socialism. We will not lay down and leave his boot on our neck another four years. If his “natural-born” status can be verified, then so be it, but it must be satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt. Our land is a land of laws, not men.
BetterDays
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:28pm@Showtime
Another benefit, thick skin and self esteem based upon GOD and not man.
I think Glenn might be using a bit of “back door” inciting on this. He is not stupid so Glenn had to know we’d have this reaction, yes?
Report Post »Skippy Toes
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:33pmAgree. I’m all for Beck. but I think Obama is a fraud. He’s trying to get his four years in before he is found out or impeached. Obama is not clever enough to use the birth certificate as bait.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:34pm@rndmrambler
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:37pm
We all agree that Mr. Obama’s mother was an American Citizen at the time of the birth. Even if this
birth might have occurred outside the 50 states, Mr. Obama is still a US citizen. There are many
children of missionaries that are born overseas, and at birth are US citizens.
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Let me rephrase my response, since SleazyHippo took exception to what I said before. I apologize, too, for my frustration, after I had tried to answe3r questions and clarify. I, along with others, have been researching Obama/Soetoro for two years. I have a computer full of document copies, links to information and copies, and have connected the dots.
I have no problem with Stanley Ann Dunham’s U.S. citizenship.
You said, “Even if this birth might have occurred outside the 50 states, Mr. Obama is still a US citizen.” The requirement is not to be a citizen but to be a NATURAL-BORN citizen. With regard to missionaries born overseas who are at birth citizens, I’m not so sure about “natural-born” citizenship when one of the missionaries is a foreign national. If BOTH parents are U.S. citizens, the child would have U.S. citizenship, but he would not be born in the U.S., giving him dual citizenship. Now, what do you think?
Report Post »OneFootRandy
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:34pmGlenn, Obama made this an issue. He demonized the Bush administration for being secretive and hiding the truth from the public, and then spends millions upon millions keeping this and his education records hidden.
Your a fool to dismiss others as fools.
Report Post »MASTER YODA
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:36pmIn a force induced trance and saw pat carrying a pod into glenn’s house, was I. Been acting so out of character, now I know why glenn has. Yes, hmmm.
Report Post »WHITE LOTUS2x
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:36pmHauschild… My problem with the birth certificate issue has to do with the refusal to present one, not that i am strong on him not being a citizen, I dont know that. To me the problem starts when a canidate doesnt provide a legal document that all other canidates have to and do provide that same document. He is not above the rules of the game. The prez could stop all this by following the rules. Lotus.
Report Post »LOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:38pm~~~~~~~~ amassing ~~~~~~~~~
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:39pm@AKMIIKEUS
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:54pm
Showtime, Beck was talking directly at you.
You might want to pass this message on to your Army buddy doing time in the brig for refusing a direct order from our first black President. We all know the real reason he won’t go to Afghan.
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Hmmmm. Better to smear the man to stands up for America than to smear the one who is usurping the White House, huh?
Lt. Lakin had 18 years as a physician and has been deployed to Afghanistan before. He would have had no problem with continuing his military service. He decided to stand for his own honor than take an order from a bogus POTUS.
Obama is not a legitimate POTUS.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:40pmNobody is hanging their hat on this issue? I guess you haven’t noticed but there’s some kind of bloated loudmouth real estate tycoon from New York – the name slips my mind, Dump? Chump? It’s something like that. Well anyway, this lunatic thinks he could run for president and he’s doing exactly that – hanging his hat on the issue. And since he’s doing much better than he should be in a few polls, this is causing people who should know better than to touch it with a ten-foot pole to ruin their own chances of running for higher office by giving stupid opinions about this same stupid non-issue.
Report Post »Redd
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:45pmHey Beck, who are you to tell us what to do? We can actually do two things at once, unlike you. We can fight the commies and soros as well as scream about dunham’s ineligibility. We question with boldness, so leave us alone.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:48pmLET’S SEE IT!!!!……………..Then I’ll shut up about it!
I am not a birther, but I just want to see the darn thing and put the issue to rest once and for all!
Report Post »If there is nothing wrong with it, then why not show it and be done with it.
I’m sick of the excuses!!……I’m sick of hearing about it!!
Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:50pm@BetterDays
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:28pm
@Showtime
Another benefit, thick skin and self esteem based upon GOD and not man.
I think Glenn might be using a bit of “back door” inciting on this. He is not stupid so Glenn had to know we’d have this reaction, yes?
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Yes, indeed! And, BetterDays, that was a classic letter you wrote through Glenn’s eyes to Sleazy! Really a classic. Enjoyed it.
And, I’ve just figured out WHY he “back-doored” this!! —–> He knew that those with proof would ome out of the woodwork with links and angles and information for Donald Trump to HARVEST!!! Not much time left, and he has to get his “case” together before the election. Brilliant move by Mr. Beck, wouldn[’t you say?
Report Post »8^)
MustComment
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:51pmI agree that this is definitely NOT a winning argument for the next election. I don’t believe anyone with commonsense does BUT we Americans eat A LOT of crow with our leadership. We only have our voice and our vote to deal with a changing America – that no Patriot I know, wanted. SO if we ask a few questions, vital questions (his birth certificate being only one, voter fraud being another) we have EVERY right to do so. Like Hauschild says: no sweeping it under the carpet!
Report Post »cycloid
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:54pmGlenn always told us to follow a premise to its conclusion and ask, “But what it it’s true?” I have no clue why Glenn overlooks the fact that the citizenship and identity of Oboob’s sperm donor are not known. The president must have 2 parents, each with American citizenship.
I think there‘s something about Trump’s gambling establishments (perfectly legal) and Glenn’s religion and backgound that has him disregarding all the advice he continually gives us. “What if it is true that Oboob’s father is (a) unkown, or (b) not a U.S. citizen?” Answer us, Glenn!!
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:55pmsleazyhippo is a typo. He originally wanted to sign up as sleazyhippie but he hit the “Join” button too fast and could not fix his typo. Either way, his name gives me a visual that ain’t pretty!
Report Post »sleazyhippo
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:59pmBecker or Birther? Birther or Becker?
Can we be both? Or do we need to choose one?
Glenn Beck is all-knowing, but so are the Birthers!
It’s a conundrum wrapped in an enigma – enough to make the average Ankle-Biter yap. yap, yap until it’s time for the show to start! (Actually it‘s 2 minutes until Glenn’s Fox News Show Time! Gotta run!)
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:03pm“The new law is not retroactive. What is in effect now stays ineffect up to the start date of new law.
What was in effect in 1961 STAYS in effect UNTIL the new law changes the requirements for those born on or after the start date of the new law. But the changes are NOT RETROACTIVE.”
that is simply not true Showtime. Nowhere in the U.S Code does it mention that the change is valid only for those born after the changes. All qualifying statutes of this kind are retroactive only making exceptions where those born before would be disqualified by the new. That is a process called “grandfathering”.
You are just making up legal definitions and pulling them out of your a**. I refer you to the actual Code here:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401—-000-.html
and to a handy explanation of its meaning here:
http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html
Arguments are fruitful if you can reference actual legal definitions. Try it sometime.
Report Post »Outland9
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:03pmAMEN – Hauschild,
Report Post »Glenn – Understand, the birther argument is a TOOL! We need to use it along with every club in our bag. How many people golf with one or two clubs, you have to use everything you have. Attack, Attack and Attack again! To get off an issue or let something go – might be in your nature (think quiting your TV show here), it isn’t in the nature of everyone else.
techengineer11
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:09pmI knew it would it only be a matter of time before GB joined all the other Neo-cons claiming that the birth certificate is a non issue.. Hell it gets in the way of slaughtering Arabs right? lol We can’t let anything get in the way of the War Machine! lol
GB you are a pathetic damn hypocrite plain and simple.. You go on and on aboubt the Constitution but you are not even willing to demand to see the President’s birth certificate? Even if the Commie was born in HA then big deal, the burden should be on him.. Regardless it was only a matter of time. The entire Jewish controlled Media is covering for Obama on this issue because they know it will tear the country apart immediately. Big cover up. YOu should be shamed GB! Crybaby.. Can’t wait to hear you cry for the Jews tomorrow GB.. lol Won‘t matter though because they’ve already fired your rear end.. lol
Report Post »Eris
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:24pmhauschild
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:03pm
“Here’s the thing Glenn: I don’t believe anybody is hanging their hat on the birther issue, but they’re also not going to let it be swept under the rug without due diligence.”
Exactly right. Too many missing records, too many unanswered questions. We‘re told over and over if you criticize this guy you’re a racist, if you ask questions your’re crazy. I call BS! We’re college-educated professionals, not kooks, so Glenn, you’re the one who should be asking questions.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:24pm@Showtime
To quote a Sarah “you betcha”.
Hey are you the Dr.? If so we are neighbors.
@Sleazyperson
Report Post »keep trying you’ll get something right someday, the law of averages says so.
Here’s an enigma wrapped in a quandary wrapped in a perplexity for you, what never changes?
techengineer11
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:25pmWhy doesn’t GB, Levin, Oreilly, Wilcow, Hannity, Bortz and others (probably shouldn‘t even include Oreilly because he’s just a damn dumbass) (I will say that Mike Church has been consistent on all issues.. he’s single handly carrying the mantle of Conservatism currently!!) analyze the birth certificate issue with the same amount of logice and reason which they use to analyze other issues?
Yeh ole GB won’t question boldly on this issue will he? lol He simply says there was a birth anouncement and their’s a short form… that‘s enough for GB and these other pundits but there’s much more to it. Jerome Corrsi PhD has questioned boldly and has taken the time to write a book so idiots like GB and the other so called conservative pundits will understand..
GB Levine Oreilly Bortz and Hannity have basically lost all credibility on this issue alone. They are in on the cover up! Read Corrsi’s book on Obama coming out soon!
Report Post »I Love Section 8 Housing
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:28pmman, if anybody is drinking the kool-aid around here it’s you birthers. you’re bathing in it.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:30pmEris:
Report Post »Right on! GB is the uneducated one and he’s acting like a ignoramous on this issue. I spent almost 7 years going through a rigorous engineering program. .graduated w/ honors even earning a master‘s in my field and yet I’m suppose to be a kook or a simpleton for asking a few simple questions about the President’s records which have been kept secret?
No you are right Eris. There‘s a big coverup and although I’m a Rand Paul fan, I‘ll support Trump if Rand doesn’t run on the birther issue alone.
Islesfordian
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:33pm@Showtime, It would help if you could provide any evidence at all that you have actually personally read yourself the U.S. Code statutes that define natural born citizenship. As of yet I have seen no such evidence.
Report Post »janedough1
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:35pmYup, Hauschchild, you got it. Making sure the President is a natural born citizen is part of the Constitution and a founding principle too. It needs to be subjected to the due diligence that was denied before the election, and it needs to be put to rest, not dropped and ignored. If you ignore it, it will happen again. If you put it under the microscope, the next guy will be careful to establish that he is a citizen.
Report Post »carnifex
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:37pm@Sleazyhippo… My goodness your almost there… Now apply that question to every liberal politician who ever spoke to you.
Report Post »anniyan428
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:43pm@SHOWTIME
I would like to see the proof that he was born in Kenya and the claimed newspaper articles, Kenyan government, etc. I would also like you to point me to the law exactly that would make him ineligible for natural born citizenship. According to Dread Scott v. Sanford, a Natural born citizen is dependent on “place of birth” not lineage or blood. So the nationalities of his parents would be irrelevant. Furthermore, what do you say about the newspaper clippings and Hawaii state governments confirmation that he was born in Hawaii. Do you think that they are fabrications? You think they decided at birth upon a conspiracy to have baby Barack elected to the title of President. I want hard evidence (photocopies, pictures, legal documents, websites, etc.), not a conservative blog or a website run by a news organization. I want primary sources.
Report Post »ENCIINOM
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:47pmNobody seemed to care that goerge bush wasnt a citizen
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:52pm@Chet Hempstead
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:06pm
Keep it up, loonies. You‘ll never find a candidate who can beat Obama as long as you keep clinging to this childish fantasy that you shouldn’t have to.
………and……..
“by giving stupid opinions about this same stupid non-issue.”
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That’s just pure funny, Chet. Obama/Soetoro is afraid that the American people look at the wreckage of our economy, that they will scratch their heads and ask, “How could I have been so stupid as to vote for this guy? Maybe the people who claim that he’s a usurper are right. Why else would he do this much damage to the economy and Constitution with his socialist agenda?”
I am not giving “stujpid opinions about this stupid issue.” I am giving the proof that he is a usurper. And, when a foreign national has usurped the White House, the issue is ANYTHING BUT stupid. It is CRIMINAL!
Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:10pm@Islesfordian ~
Posted at 5:03 p.m.
“Arguments are fruitful if you can reference actual legal definitions. Try it sometime.”
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Well, this just blew all your links all to pieces. Nowhere in the U.S. Constitution is “natural-born citizen” defined. You can forget that link for that purpose.
‘The Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law’ as U.S. Federal Common Law Not English Common Law Define What an Article II Natural Born Citizen Is
The link to the article, written by an attorney at law, is here:
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/08/law-of-nations-and-not-english-common.html
Enjoy, Islesfordian.
Report Post »Truthseeker09
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:12pmI agree that the Birth Certificate contraversy is not the main issue facing our nation, but I do not like to be told to “sit down and shut up” when there is a legitimate question about the validity of the certificate in question. I think by screaming loudly to anyone who sincerly wants to know and telling them that they are crazy- is wrong!. Let me ask, who is more crazy the one who believes without seeing any proof of the one who is the skeptic?
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:14pm@techengineer11
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:09pm
I knew it would it only be a matter of time before GB joined all the other Neo-cons claiming that the birth certificate is a non issue.. Hell it gets in the way of slaughtering Arabs right? lol We can’t let anything get in the way of the War Machine! lol
GB you are a pathetic damn hypocrite plain and simple.. You go on and on aboubt the Constitution but you are not even willing to demand to see the President’s birth certificate? Even if the Commie was born in HA then big deal, the burden should be on him.. Regardless it was only a matter of time. The entire Jewish controlled Media is covering for Obama on this issue because they know it will tear the country apart immediately. Big cover up. YOu should be shamed GB! Crybaby.. Can’t wait to hear you cry for the Jews tomorrow GB.. lol Won‘t matter though because they’ve already fired your rear end.. lol
Report Post »~~~~~~~~~~~~
Techie, the birth certificate is not an issue. EVEN IF he had a Hawaii birth certificate, it would be sealed when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro. All evidence points to his Kenyan birth anyway. Obama/Soetoro is busted every way he turns.
Soldiers_Son
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:23pm“Trust, but verify.”
We are just trying to verify the part of Obama’s constitutional eligibility to be President. Why is it bad to make sure that the person leading the country meets the constitutional requirements to do so? And why would Barry spend so much money to hide it, especially since he is currently running the most transparent administration since… well, forever (according to the media).
But, I can also understand why Glenn says to drop it. He feels that since Obama is already elected and has sat on the throne for three years, that it is not the most important thing we should be focusing on. He also feels that it distracts from other enemies and issues that pose a more immediate threat. I can empathize with that thinking, but I also agree with JJCoolLay that we can focus on more than one thing, and just because we want to verify the legitimacy of Obama’s eligibility does not mean we are not watching the other hand, or paying attention to other issues. The two are not mutually exclusive.
I think the birth certificate/natural-born citizen issue is important because it is a constitutional issue. And if we let it slide here, then where do we draw the line in the future? And what kind of precedent does it set? If we find out that he is not a natural-born citizen does that set the precedent that others who are not natural-born can now run because we did not stop it in this case and just let it slide because it wasn’t that important? How could the courts twist this to allow other things that are unconstitutional? Does this show that the constitution is becoming irrelevant (as Obama has said it is)? Since I do not have a crystal ball I cannot answer these questions, but rather offer them as rhetorical.
But, regardless of Obama’s natural-born status, I revert back to my original quote… “Trust, but verify”. We still need to verify on the grounds that it is a constitutional issue.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:25pmGlen Glen while you were getting drunk, I was voting for Reagan. I look at you as Johnny come lately. I like you but I don’t take marching orders. I was thinking long before you came along.
Report Post »From a fan………….
SamAdamslives
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:28pmHey Glenn, stop with the over-simplified thinking. No one believes that his birth certificate will make or break his Presidency; who would have the guts to throw him out if he was born in another country? Boehner? McConnell? Please…not from the impotent right. Why don’t all the anti-birthers address the secrecy and cover up of all Obamanation’s academic, medical documents? Who spends millions on wiping all their records off the books?! Glenn, get back on TV and fight your agenda as you choose before you yell at us to stop with birther accusations. At least Trump has the cohones to stick it in their eye….
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:31pm“Well, this just blew all your links all to pieces. Nowhere in the U.S. Constitution is “natural-born citizen” defined. You can forget that link for that purpose.You can forget that link for that purpose.”
So you admit the Constitution itself doesn’t define “natural born citizen” but yet you refuse to see what the U.S. Code might say about it. How convenient. Yet you reference a book that might have historical value yet which is NOWHERE listed within the Constitution or in Federal law as being authoritative on this matter.
It’s nice when you can make up your own facts and rules.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:33pm@anniyan428
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:43pm
@SHOWTIME
I would like to see the proof that he was born in Kenya and the claimed newspaper articles, Kenyan government, etc. I would also like you to point me to the law exactly that would make him ineligible for natural born citizenship. According to Dread Scott v. Sanford, a Natural born citizen is dependent on “place of birth” not lineage or blood. So the nationalities of his parents would be irrelevant. Furthermore, what do you say about the newspaper clippings and Hawaii state governments confirmation that he was born in Hawaii. Do you think that they are fabrications? You think they decided at birth upon a conspiracy to have baby Barack elected to the title of President. I want hard evidence (photocopies, pictures, legal documents, websites, etc.), not a conservative blog or a website run by a news organization. I want primary sources.
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Obama’s FATHER was a BRITISH SUBJECT. Regardless of where Obama/Soetoro was born, he has dual citizenship. IF he was born in Hawaii, he is NATIVE-born, not natural-born. His father was a British subject, canceling out the possibility for natural-born status. Where Obama was born does not matter.
Email Chuck Kolb at Chuckolb@bellsouth.net and ask him to send you the last emails he sent out on Obama’s eligibility. That is his email address that he uses for that purpose. It is full of links to documents, papers, research, etc. There’s also a video that shows the articles in the newspapers in Africa. The articles were either scrubbed or deleted later, but there are photographs (I have photographs, too) of the way things were reworded against the original wording.
Report Post »darkknight91
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:40pmShut up, Glenn. You pick your battles, we’ll pick ours.
Report Post »JRsas2000
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:40pmI totally agree with you. While it is not an issue that should be front and center of the next elect, it IS something that needs to be resolved. Back when Clinton got caught with Monica, the biigger question was that he LIED to the American people. Why isn’t that important now? Why should all the other things be stand alone issues? There are PLENTY of reasons why he should not be reelected, but not being eligible is certainly one of them!
Report Post »reckless
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:54pmObama spent over $1 million to keep his birth record from the public.
Report Post »This, is prima facia evidence to support the fact that one does exist. One does not spend that kind of money to “hide” a document that does not exist.
So, the question remains, what is so damaging to Obama that requires him to spend an inordinate amount of money to keep the public from viewing an ordinary, run-of-the-mill birth certificate?
Erkel
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 7:06pmThank you BOOGER71.
You summarized it just right. Finally, someone who gets it.
The BC is practically irrelevant (may even be purposeful misdirection). He could have been born in the Lincoln bedroom of the White House but since ‘both’ of his parents were not ‘citizens’, he cannot be a ‘Natural Born Citizen’ thereby making him ineligible. He could meet the definition of ‘citizen’, but not NBC.
Report Post »“DO YOUR HOMEWORK” Glenn. Reference legal analysis by Leo Donofrio.
pappy
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 7:08pm@SHOWTIME – Thanks much for the link & info. You’ve been most helpful.
Report Post »P.S> re: trolls, nonbelievers & idiots – Stay on ‘em. You’re doing an EXCELLENT job of keeping them straight & on their toes.
Thanks again.
Pappy
checkit
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 7:08pmBeck says seek the truth do your research, check it yourselves, in other words get involved and find the truth, but then he says NO stop, DO NOT seek the truth to your questions?
Something is wrong.
Report Post »anniyan428
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 7:21pm@ SHOWTIME
I don’t think you understand the law. A natural born citizen is one who is born in the United States, regardless of the citizenship of the parents or their nationalities. Even if his mother on Mars and his father Pluto, he would be born a United States citizen (natural born) with opportunities for multiple citizenships in the other countries. In this case, he was eligible for dual citizenship with Kenya, as his father was a Kenyan citizen (declared after decolonization), but he lost the right to have dual citizenship when he did not declare so by age 23. But, besides that, even if he was born with dual citizenship, it did not make him ineligible for the office of Presidency. You only have to be a “natural born citizen” which means you were born in this country. Even if he had dual citizenship (which technically he didn’t), it wouldn’t have mattered. You need to read the U.S. Code Title 8, Section 1401. I will provide the link so you can read yourself. He was born here so he is a natural born citizen, regardless of what his parents were or dual citizenship or anything else. I don’t know how much more clear I can be.
http://uscode.house.gov/pdf/2008/2008usc08.pdf
Report Post »sleazyhippo
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 7:41pm@BETTERDAYS
You are forgiven, please come home (hug).
((You gotta admit, your Beck-POV essay was kinda creepy – but unique.)) Well Done,
Report Post »ltb
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 7:44pmI’ll lose interest in Obama’s birth certificate when I find out why he has spent $2 MILLION trying to hide it from the American People. Obama refusing to show his actual birth certificate is just another instance of him spitting on the Constitution.
Report Post »APEXIdaho
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 7:49pmHere is another link to an article that explaines why Obama is not eligible to be President no matter where he was born. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=134881
The SCOTUS should (if they were to do their job) remove him from office and void everything that he has signed!
Report Post »Paleo Archer
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:01pmTrue that, let it see the light of day….along with many other things…..
Report Post »bobodu
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:06pmPlease keep it up…pressure Obama for the paper!!!
You make wonderful fools of yourselves. All you need for a complete fool show is Palin and Trump on “Survivor DC”.
Report Post »Hey….did you know ( I heard it on Glenn Beck) that Obama is a hermaphrodite? He also swam here from Kenya using the gills under his arms.
Wolf
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:07pmAs if the birth certificate ISN’T one of the Founding Principles of the Constitution?
Report Post »Glenn is showing more and more he‘s not on the Republic’s side.
He‘d better do some serious pedalling if he wants me to think he’s on America’s side rather than just being in it for the money.
Stuck_in_CA
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:12pmEven Glenn can get one wrong occasionally. There‘s way too many questions about BO’s hidden past.
Report Post »fatboyspiffy
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:15pmAs Andrew Wilkow said today,”Ya know the Clintons are like the mafia. If there was something to be found about the birth certificate then they would have used that when she ran for President”. Get off this crap people cause we have a country to save!
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:18pm@Islesfordian (I think)
All your pretty words and links do not a case make!
Obama may or may not be a “citizen,” depending upon where he was born; but Obama is not a “natural-born citizen” due to his FATHER’S BEING A BRITISH SUBJECT.
It’s really very simple. Obama is a FRAUD, on the American people.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:35pm@SLEAZYHIPPO :
Thanks for the inadvertent compliment, but convoluted thinking has always been why I debate so well, thank GOD. And your thinking it was creepy makes it all the much more better (come on you can’t resist, you know your the grammar police). I often freak people out by telling them what their motivations are. Yours, you believe in a wide variety of view points. You consider yourself centrist but often despair over the decisions of your own party and have often considered becoming an independent. You don’t switch because of family and tradition. You strongly believe in helping others, even when it hurts you to do so. You believe in GOD. You come here to debate, but find that many are unwilling to consider an opposite viewpoint which irritates you. When irritated you exhibit passive aggressive behaviors in your remarks ( me too!). You think most conservatives are old, white, and have bad breath. You drive a compact car, yellow I think. You are female, and most likely work or worked in healthcare or care giving.
HUGS back at you, and PEACE.
If at all Possiable be at peace with all mankind. Be quick to forgive one another, forgiveness is first an action and then a request.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:36pmShowtime, did you read ANY of those official statutes and explanations? Did you check out any of the official government sites? Did you examine ANY EVIDENCE?
You claim they don’t make my case. I just showed you step by step how they do. And how do you refute me? Do you dismantle my case point by point? No. Do you mount any kind of argument why my case if flawed? You don’t. You simply deny there is an argument that needs refutation.
That is the greatest act of willful blindness you can demonstrate. THIS is the problem with you birthers. YOU REFUSE TO EXAMINE THE EVIDENCE. You just ignore it. You prefer as “evidence” private opinions written on internet blogs by individuals with no official authority to declare the truth on this matter.
Obviously the Truth doesn’t matter to you. Truth may have no agenda, but YOU GUYS certainly do. Your agenda is to keep shouting accusations without proof and ignore any evidence that discredits your argument. Frankly, having you guys on our side is not an asset. It is a handicap, or a handycapable pain in the a**. You are the tinfoil hat wearers that we shy away from and don’t bother to engage in conversation because no rational conversation can be had unless we are agreeing with your fact-free rantings.
If you had ever bothered to examine the evidence I presentede, evidence not of my making but drawn fro official sources i might have had some hope that you were willing to be rational. Alas, no. You are committed to being a closed minded self-righteous and smug ignoramus.
Let me know when you decide to be otherwise.
Report Post »home_of_the_brave
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:53pmThis is the one time I disagree with Beck…. I do believe the birth certificate is a very valid issue, if by letting this slide it sets a president for other potential candidates. However, I do agree that it distracts from the real serious issues, our budget, universal healthcare, deficit, anti-oil policies, increased taxes ect. I think what Beck is saying is… regardless if the POTUS was born here or not, it’s not a winnable argument nor something you can campaign on in 2012 because it is such a hot button issue it will not win independent votes, and if anything sway some undecided voters to the democratic party because it is generally viewed as ludicrous by the MSM. Instead we should focus on the real “Issues” and the principal behind them, that is how you campaign and win an election. But if states like AZ pass birthed laws, all the better, lets close the loophole for 2012.
Report Post »Patriot Z
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:56pmbut it is a non-story. Unless you can come up with conclusive proof that he was not born in america, all it becaomes is conjecture and speculation. Obama wont release it because its the perfect weapon that we use on OURSELVES. this topic marginalizes us and put everything we work for in jepordy by making us look like fools. There are way too many REAL problems with obama and too many real conspiracies with the progressive movement that we dont need this. we may not be ‘hanging our hat’ on the birth issue but we shouldnt be doing anything with it because its a pea shot against them and a cluster bomb against us. its like the peeps at the tea party rallies fighting on wheter they should dress up tlike betsy ross and george washington. sure its fun, sure it grabs attention but in the end all it really does is make us look like wakos which kills our message. Obama isnt stupid hes using this against us. he has maginalized this so much at this point he could come out and say he was born in kenya and NOTHING would happen. use real issues to stop him, not this nonsense
Report Post »jzs
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 9:08pmO’ Reilly called it nonsense, Beck says give it up, Rove says this is bad issue to run on and even Palin and Bachmann aren’t making this an issue. Rove would say run with birther issue, regardless of his personal opinion (he didn’t get where he is on the strength of his ethics) if he didn‘t realize that this promoting this issue turns voters off because it’s so absurd.
So go with Blazers! Team! But it puts you not just on the fringe, but even on the fringe compared to Beck and Palin, which says a lot.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 9:26pmIt should be LAW in every state, that any one running for or is in a political office, That ALL personal, school, and business records must be on Public display for any US citizen to see and read as proof of their honesty and citizenship.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 9:35pmShowtime
Report Post »You link to some whacko on the internet giving a complex argument for defining natural-born citizen in a way other than how it has been defined by the Supreme Court, but that doesn’t change the fact that it is still not the definition given by the Supreme Court. The whacko himself admitted that in U.S. v Wong Kim Ark, the most recent ruling on the subject, the Court drew its definition from English Common Law, not from some other system of law like you want them to. In English Common Law and in their ruling there is no difference between native born and natural born citizens, and you don’t even have to have one parent who is a citizen at the time of your birth – you just have to be born here. If you don’t believe me, read the decision and the majority opinion. They’re actually easier to understand than the whacko who has confused you so much.
missbosslady
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 9:40pmApparently, we are only to “question with boldness” that which has been approved by Glenn Beck first.
My, my Mr. Beck, you certainly are showing us something here. Disappointing.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 9:42pmHow can these moron liberals keep spewing their crap about others looking like loons. You would have to be the most ignorant thing on earth to not question, several members of his own family have stated he wasn’t born here, dozens and dozens have said over and over that they saw his birth in Africa, Hawaii can’t find his birth certificate, no hospital there says he was born there, a hospital in Kenya says he most definitely was born there, at least one family member who swore he wasn’t born in Hawaii, suddenly became ill and died under most mysterious circumstances.
There are only 2 qualifications to be president, and here is major doubt that he meets one of them, that should be of major concern to everyone.
The liberals are doing what they have done in all their battles to destroy this nation from the great society to the obama election, call names, promote hate, promote fear, lie, and ignore the truth. We don’t need to loose this battle also, in 60 years of liberal domination, we have gone from the greatest most educated nation in the world to a laughing stock, that 90% of the population of the planet knows is being lead by a foreigner, and we are so sad less than 50% of our population is smart enough to figure that out.
Report Post »joe3
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 9:42pmprove it beck, prove he was born here. otherwise be honest, none of us know either way, and if he was not its being used to blackmail obomber. we have the right to know if the president is being blackmailed. obama is selfish, he needs to clear this up now.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 9:51pm“How can these moron liberals keep spewing their crap about others looking like loons. You would have to be the most ignorant thing on earth to not question,”
The reason people call you loons is that when you question you then refuse to look at the answer when it is given to you because it’s not what you wanted to hear. I have numerous times pointed out the official law relating to natural born citizenship and no one on the birther side bothers to examine it. You would rather cling to your private opinions dressed up as expert analyses when they only come from internet sources with no more authority than you or I have. What the actual federal Law says, you don’t care.
THAT’s why you are loons.
Report Post »veruca salt
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 9:59pmI thought you stood for Truth, Glenn. I thought you loved the Constitution, Glenn. So then why are you shying away from this story? Who’s side are you on, Glenn? Who’s paying you to look the other way? Unlike your other stories on Piven, Soros, the Caliphate… stories that could be years in the making before they tear down our America; here we see our country being torn down by an usurper in front of our face and yet you do nothing. You do Nothing, Glenn!
Report Post »JustTheFactsPlease
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:39pmDear Glen Beck. PLEASE SHUT UP!! it’s Ironic you tell us ALL THE TIME to question with boldness, trust… BUT Verify. This birth certificate thing, if he has commited treason. Then I think we all know the punishment for that. If he has broke the law, WE ARE A NATION OF LAWS. what’s wrong with us validating IF… IF he broke the law of the land. Asking us to stop talking about this, it’s OFFENSIVE! So please glen, SHUT UP! stop asking us to be quiet.
Report Post »frodis
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:40pmI like Glenn MOST of the time but I agree that Obama is hiding something. It doesn’t matter because the damage is done but still. I still want to know the truth. Maybe if you guys on your morning show acted a bit more mature and trimmed the commercials a bit that would make us happy too. Most radio shows go to their first break at 21 minutes after but Glenn averages 16 minutes before he says “our sponsor today is”. As for the birther thing just get over it and move on. It‘s kinda like you ranted for days about the Gainsville pastor even though you didn’t mention once that You Tube has a ton of koran burning clips. He had every right to do it. That’s his business and you helped glamorize it. So don’t tell us to stop with the “damn” birther issue.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:42pmThis is an unusual departure for Beck. We all know that Beck tells us the Truth. He doesn’t take sides, he’s not partisan, he just tells the Truth, God’s truth. I’m not saying he is a profit, or has privileged access to the Mind of God. But I do know he tells us the Truth, the solid, absolute complete truth.
But this is confusing to me. We know President Obama wasn’t born in this country, and Beck was saying to let go of the issue.
Could it be that he has another plan? Some way to pounce on birther questions at just the right time, a time that will inflict the most damage on Obama? That’s what I think. Beck tells of the Truth, but maybe he has a higher purpose on this. Maybe from God?
Report Post »paleoconservatarian
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:43pmAbsolutely. Glenn is spot on. Tactically and strategically, there’s no winning end game with being a birther. It paints the advocate as a inveterate bitter ender whose other arguments can more easily be dismissed because there’s no assumption of good faith in them (which is very likely the case). Policies approved under his presidency won‘t magically go away if by some lucky happenstance birthers pull off the impossible and actually prove a negative and it’s actually not suppressed by a overly partisan press. Hilary Clinton’s campaign ultimately understood this which is why the (D)s are perfectly happy to have dropped it and allowed others to pick up the rotten apple.
The birther issue is a toxic loser; anyone who wants to waste time on it is tramping off into the weeds when what needs to be debated are the core principles of capitalism and republicanism. Obama has real power to effect those things so that’s where people efforts ought to be directed. Don’t think you can get out of the larger argument on a technicality because Obama is just one person in a long line willing to debate the other side of rugged individualism and constitutionalism. Soros backed Obama, but he also backed Edwards and Clinton and others – hedging his bets; same with other moneyed backers and entire sectors of the electorate. They have a vested interest in keeping the budgetary spigot flowing to fund their creeping crony socialism; their machinations aren‘t going to be stopped over the issue of one man’s birth certificate. Like a wack-a-mole game, you can’t ever stop the gophers from popping up with a hammer. You need to pull the plug. If you have a winning argument, as all indications are that conservatives do since the country is gradually becoming more and more conservative, we should continue to make THAT case and not become distracted with legalisms.
Report Post »EducatedAmerican
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:51pmWhy stop on the birth certificate, that is real principles right there. The birth certificate is a constitutionally mandated law. This will not remove him but is another illegitamacy in his presidency that will fundaentally change election requirements in the future. This will be a reason to change election law so we can make sure only Americans are president. This man has spent more in a couple of years to hide his identity than most people will make in their lifetimes. He is a fraud and needs to be proven so. Glenn is right on most things but I think this is wrong. This needs to be finished. I want to see a birth ceritficate.
Report Post »xme
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:10pmThe birth certificate is a giant ruse. He wants to keep the birthers in a frenzy and he has been successful in marginalizing them as ‘crazies.’ Your missing the important question focusing on the form. The question should be “can a dual-citizen child grow up to be the president of the united States?”
Report Post »Joe Tuesday Dienstag
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:31pmCould not have said it any better.
Report Post »I AM ENCINOMs THERAPIST
Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:35pmOK Blazers here is the deal……ENCINOM suffers from a rare condition where in hating himself so much he projects his self-loathing onto an external object….in this case GB. He then becomes obsessed and fixated much in the same way sick sociopath becomes fixated. At first we tried to combat this with meds but just so every one knows we are doing everything in our power to jolt him back to reality we are going to begin aggressive shock therapy. Now open wide ENCINOM and bite down on this wooden stick…………… Oh you may want to go relieve yourself first !!!!!
Report Post »Theophilos
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 12:00amThe real issue with the BC isn’t so much where he was born–although who the hell knows?!–it’s who his parents are. If his parents really are who he’s told everyone they are, then he IS NOT A NB CITIZEN and disqualified UNDER THE CONSTITUTION to hold the office of POTUS. Beck claims to hold the Constitution so dear, so why the punt on a Constitutional requirement?!
Report Post »Terre
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 12:50amYeah, Hauschild I agree. I don’t think anybody should make this a major issue – but it‘s like a gnat flying around and just won’t go away. It’s irritating. One phone call, and badda-bing – Obama could end this mystery but he refuses to. WHY? Is he trying to hide something? Is this a game? What happened to transparency? Let somebody with a big speaker (Donald Trump) do the askiing. Let the chips fall where they may. People should be prepared one day, if you get your wish and this matter would be resolved and what that means. What if it’s what you expected? What if it’s not what you expected?
Report Post »Tea Party Conservatism
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 1:04amEt tu, Brute?
Report Post »TheSoundOf Truth
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 1:52amHere:
http://www.infowars.com/president-obamas-real-name-barry-soetoro-tops-google-trends/
I know this is Alex Jones-some people love him and some hate him. But he makes one heck a point here….Check it out and decide for yourself.
Report Post »CT032098
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 2:55amI agree with most of you guys here about the eligibility of Obama holding office but in defense of Glenn I must say a few things….
Report Post »What would happen if it is proven that he is ineligible to hold office….what difference would that make really….in the end he would some how get off from being prosecuted for fraud one way or another…dirty politians/people always do (especially when powerful). As far as what he has done in office, not all those things can be reversed. So lets flip it now, let’s say we continue this trend and demand proof…whose to say someone with this much power and power friends can’t produce a fake one. I‘m sure it’s not that hard because money and influence gets you whatever you want these days. Secondly, if he does produce one at the last minute (fake or real), it‘s going to aid in his reelection or the right’s agenda at the time. I don’t know if Obama was born here or not, if he is legally allowed to be in office or not (frankly I think he is a deciever myself on many aspects) but Glenn does make a valid point that there are other issues also, like the Islamic uprising, the plot to collapse or economy, the distancing of being friends with Israel, and how the whole world (including the US) is abandoning God and the one and only King of Kings – Jesus Christ. Look at the other story on the Blaze how it’s now okay to teach homosexuality history in schools….but you can’t say the pledge of allegiance due to the word God in it. Crazy. Blasphemies everywhere now, on TV, in the media, everywhere. Brothers and Sisters listen closely, Our King draws near, his hand is on the door handle – its turning. I have followed Revelations for 14 years and remained silent (may God forgive me). All these things are unstoppable for they have all been written and will come and are coming to pass. Generals pick there battles wisely….Glenn is just saying pick yours wisely. Stand up for Almighty God – Yahweh, and His beloved Son/the Lamb of God, Jesus Christ – Yahshua. Praise his name wherever you go, and stand up for him against those around you who don’t and speak blasphamies against him…… May God bless us all and our country
Mee the People
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 3:33amits about him showing the piece of paper like everyone else does
Report Post »Mee the People
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 3:40amglenn must need this vacation from his work
Report Post »its about showing your piece of paper douchebag, like everyone else does,
not where the hell he came from right now
GETLIFE
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 4:08amBeck obviously has his own good reasons for distancing himself from this one.
Doesn’t mean there is no need for bold questioning. How can we allow this precedent to be established? A presidential candidate does not have to prove LEGALLY to the American people that he/she is eligible to run? And don’t be naive, there are all kinds of ways people weasel around the system to get prized American citizenship for their children.
Trump lives in a world where legalities matter. We should not be having to look into it, a candidate should have to present the proof. How can we let such precedents be established?
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 4:13amThis is not an election argument. It’s a standard that needs to be clarified for all candidates.
Report Post »slade37
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 5:16amBeck has never been a Birther. He’s argued this point before, and I remember hearing it. Just because he publishes articles that mention or discuss Birthers doesn’t mean he supports their views. He publishes mainly articles with some editorials. He’s reporting news that other sites might not touch. It’s only a liability if he says something false as if it were fact – not whether he shares their views or not. There is no genie to put back in the bottle. You’d know it was never out if you pay attention. Beck himself has never been a Birther. You have never heard him ask about a birth certificate.
Although the birth certificate is important, it is a distraction. Obama could easily be refusing to show the birth certificate to keep us distracted. Ever consider that? The more we focus on his citizenship the more likely we’ll miss something else going on.
I am not a Birther. I don’t trust Obama and most other politicians. He‘s going to continue to refuse to answer and try to keep us distracted in the hopes we won’t notice something he’s doing. It serves a purpose as long as he avoids answering it. You are playing into his hands as far as I’m concerned.
Report Post »WeimMom
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 7:26amIt can not be ignored as it is just one small part of the Obama lie. Everything about BO is a lie, the most corrupt, non-transparent in history!
Report Post »helicop
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 7:30amI agree. Glenn, we don’t care anymore about what is a “Winning Argument”. We are concerned about principle and what is just and right. And by God, we want to see proof of the damn birth certificate.
There can be no logical reason for him to keep throwing money at this issue to keep it covered up if there is really a birth cirtificate or at a minimum, there is not an issue with the birth certificate.
The way I read the citizenship laws, it wouldn’t matter if he was born in Kenya anyway because of his mother being a U.S. citizen at the time. However, it seems to be just another lie he is hiding behind and I am tired of Obama and the democrats getting away with their version of the truth.
Report Post »Love Bandit Bestid
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 8:28amI feel lost without beck on Foxnews and ABC radio in NYC.
Report Post »HELPUSSAVEAMERICA
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 8:44amI am having Glenn Beck withdrawal already, love Beck. But, I agree with this poster, this issue must be settled. Why would a Presdent go to great lengths to lock up his personal information if all was legitimate. He should be forced to provide it, problem is, we don’t have the political power to force him, and the Dems back him all the way, no matter WHAT he does. Case in point: Libya
Report Post »TAXLORDCOMETH
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 8:54amObama is safe on this issue only as long as the courts and media keep protecting him. Glenn is missing a bigger point here — if the birth certificate is valid as White House rumours suggest, it means Obama is highly susceptible to blackmail from people who have the power to turn the media on him.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:13amNobody is hanging their hat on this issue? I guess you haven’t noticed but there’s some kind of bloated loudmouth real estate tycoon from New York – the name slips my mind, Dump? Chump? It’s something like that. Well anyway, this lunatic thinks he could run for president and he’s doing exactly that – hanging his hat on the issue.
Report Post »_____________________________________
@CHET: Wrong!!
Trump hasn‘t even officially thrown his hat into the ring so if he’s not even IN the race how could he hang his hat on this??
Besides, this is not a platform issue. This is to determine whether the sitting president should even be THE SITTING PRESIDENT.
StonyBurk
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:10amGlenn Beck saying Stop with the damn Birth certificate-it’s not a winning issue. I believe is like a drug rehab social worker telling an alcoholic under the influence of drugs and /or alcohol they need to forget WHY they drink –or why they mainline or snort or whatever their method of choice is that need to just stop drinking–or doing drugs. EVERYTHING– EVERY ISSUE with the 0 –you cannot name a single
Report Post »American issue with th e0 that cannot be reasonably linked to the root cause -he is not a “natural born citizen.”Talk about any issue you like and it tracks back to this issue.
scooby2.5
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:38amHere is the whole enchilada. Every document and article WND (the main researcher on this issue Joseph Farah) has ever published on the subject.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=98546
Report Post »Jo-Georgia
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:59amAgreed
Report Post »Timekeeper
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 12:05pmGlen has lost it on this – he’s wrong and needs to just shut-up!
Report Post »Glen – let folks decide for themselves. I see NOTHING – NO PROOF
that Obama was born here. I see Obama spend Millions of dollars on a
team of attorneys in order to HIDE all documents that may show something.
I see polls where this does resonate with Americans.
WE have a right to know – and Glen – be quiet about it.
imreddog
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 1:08pmHey Glenn, for someone that claims to support the Constitution of the United States of America, you don’t seem to support it enough to make sure that presidential candidates are Constitutionally qualified. You would make a good Commiecrat… AKA Demoncrap.
Report Post »Gtoland
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 1:15pmIt really, at this point does not make a difference if he is, was born in Hawaii. He is the President now. Lets come together and show his true colors and listen to his way he wants to lead this country. Lets find someone that will get the spending under control and show some real leadership.
Report Post »its_time_to_arrest_our_government
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 2:07pmmr beck check your facts mr obama is not i repeat NOT a natural born citizen. where he was born is irrelivant his mother could of had him on the steps of the white house and he still wouldnt be eligible. for one to be a natural born citizen of this country you must be the child of two (2) american parents. not one american and one kenyan, but two americans. thus the term natural or by nature. you must be a pure bred american. not a mix of any other country. so mr beck your wrong by denouncing the birthers the only reason we want his b/c is because if you were to take that phoney thing obama posted and called his b/c to your local dept of motor vehicle and ask if you can get a license with it, youll be laughed out of the place. but then glenn dont take my word for it check it out for yourself. obama is ineligilbe to hold the office of president.
Report Post »William113
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 2:10pmWhats a matter Hypocrite Beck are your handlers going to take away your radio show to if you don’t support the jewish cartels puppet.
Report Post »scraper57
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 2:34pmCouldnt agree more were are about to topple under the weight of beauracracy, and governmental red-tape. I picture those huge rocks like in Arizona sitting atop a frail undersized pinacle, its only a matter of time. Your right Glenn, stop with the birth certificate!
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 2:48pmWatch it before it’s pulled!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8&feature=player_embedded
Report Post »BocaBaby
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 3:05pmI agree with you all…….Glenn, we love you…..but we are just not gonna let this one go.
The fact of the matter is that you are attacking Trump, and he maybe a master of marketing, but even he is smart enough to know two things:
1. This issue does NOT pass the smell test…..no matter what republican govenor signed off on it.
2. That there are other MUCH MORE IMPORTANT issues at hand.
Trump at least has the COURAGE AND CONFIDENCE in himselfto know that he can expose this issue-bring credibility to it, and you are SO not giving him credit for one great thing he has already done……he has helped greatly to legitimize the Tea Party.
As you can see by the comments here…..most of beleive in our gut, that something is wrong with, and not having the courage to pursue it along with other issues, well basically says we are all doing this…….it really ignores the fact that if all of us have been praying, fasting , etc etc, that maybe well God has braught a very UNLIKELY figure to bring darkness to light.
Seriously, Glenn when God brings answers, it is rarely the way WE think it is gonna be.
If there is truly something wrong with the birth certificate issue, why the heck would we want to stop truth from coming forth.
Allow the issue to play forth. We have been under far too much deception for far too long.
Report Post »Gay Tea Partier
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 3:40pmI sit on the fence where “birthers” are concerned.
I do wonder why Obama spends so much money to fight it when it’s his constitutional responsibility to prove his citizenship.
But this is a PERFECT example of why i NO LONGER support Beck and am GLAD he is being let go, err “transitioning” from Fox news.
Many in the birther movement have supported Beck in the past and he doesn’t have to SUPPORT their position but he CERTAINLY SHOULD NOT be attacking them.
Again Beck I USED TO like you, now i see you for the TWO FACE you really are!
Report Post »denise55
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 4:01pmWhat can we use that would cause the extreme left to react the same way as the birth certificate. THE THING IS THAT THE BIRTH CERT. ISSUE WAS STARTED BY HILLARY CLINTON PRIMARY SUPPORTERS, NOT REPUBLICAN’S.
SO WHAT DRIVES THE LEFT CRAZY, WE USE IT AGAINST OBAMA. We need to us his crazies against him.
Report Post »ShyMan
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 4:13pmI wonder if the genealogy experts in Mormonville could use a birth certificate?
I bet they would consider it important.
C’mon Glenn why spoil the fun?
Of course it’s not a deciding issue of the cam“pain” but the fact that Obama has to defend himself is pure unadulterated glee.
Report Post »jiba
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 4:33pmTo bad Glenn, Just to many un-answered questions. You tell everyone dont believe me research yourself and I have can not find the proper information to believe he is or isn’t a US citizen. Matter of fact more is leaning toward he is not. like everything else in this country we will find out 50 years from now when its unclassified.
Report Post »I do know for a fact you flip flop when money is involved
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 4:52pmWake up!!!
Any of you that have PROOF bad BO is illegitimate show it, provide your FACTS….Contact Trump with your evidence and he will gladly show it to the world….Until then you have nothing but a THEORY, just like the big bang THEORY…..
Bad BO may or may not have been born here or may or may not be illegitimate and if you find it prudent to spend your time finding FACTUAL evidence, feel free to do so….
If you think you can ouster bad BO by electing or using his legitimacy in this next race as a reason you will LOSE and bad BO will reign over you for another 4 years….
Think and don’t be stupid. There are many FACTUAL points against BO that can be used in this election to win besides something none of us piss ants can PROVE……Think and don’t be used by some full of crap politician. If you vote on the basis of a birth certificate your an idiot and an useful one for bad BO! Think!
If you think this country can be restored or returned to the past your ignorant. NEVER in history has a Nation “restored” itself because it can not be done… You either have to shed patriot blood or be a part of the Beast it has become….Think……Come out of the Beast…..
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 5:13pmSo FOX will let GB shill for the Jews but he can’t discuss all of the Marxist Jews in the US Government? lol
Report Post »Ok, and we are not suppose to believe that we are under a wicked Jewish Apartheid? How much do they pay you to cry for Jews GB?lol So FOX is going to let him come back a few times a year to shill for the Jew? lol
ABBEBABE
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 5:16pmI think Trump is the only man that has the guts to confront the the birth certificate issue if you love this country then show this country your longform birth certificate…..Instead of being “transparent” Obama has spent Millions on a Cover Up…………….Our Country has been Hijacked…….Glenn God Love you…..Went to see you last night please see that Trump has the best intrest of America in his Heart I never really cared for him but I now see a different man with a plan he is the best Man for 2011 I Hope and Pray that he runs and that he Wins it is Time To Take Our Great Country Back!!!!!! Wake Up Amercia we are Sleeping time is running out for us all!!!!
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 5:31pmwhy should the Democrats stop lying at this point about Glenn Beck they make a living at it
Report Post »paleoconservatarian
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 7:27pm@denise55
What can we use that would cause the extreme left to react the same way as the birth certificate. THE THING IS THAT THE BIRTH CERT. ISSUE WAS STARTED BY HILLARY CLINTON PRIMARY SUPPORTERS, NOT REPUBLICAN’S.
SO WHAT DRIVES THE LEFT CRAZY, WE USE IT AGAINST OBAMA. We need to us his crazies against him.
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Principled, conservative argumentation. It get’s the left sputtering incoherently every time. But then, you have this…
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@helicop
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 7:30am
Glenn, we don’t care anymore about what is a “Winning Argument”. . . by God
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No birther could have put it more succinctly. They wouldn’t mind at all throwing away victory if it gave them more grist over which to complain. Look up the etymology for the word bigot, BTW. In it, you‘ll see why reason isn’t particularly important to these people.
The fight is not about Obama. It’s about progressivism. Let‘s all just hope that the birther issue goes away when Donald Trump’s bubble bursts.
Report Post »moonfish
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 7:49pmDon’t tell us how to think. I am a huge supporter, but you need to avoid the issue or address it. You have taught us to not be summarily dismissed because we have a different opinion. If you think I’m stupid, then you’re no different than the leftists. Look at what has happened toTrump’s numbers… He is not trying to force PC on us. Don’t become part of the elite. I don’t care where he was born… Natural born citizen means both parents are citizens.. Right?
Report Post »triquad
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:10pmGlenn: I do agree with you so far as this should not be an issue to try to hang your hat on to beat Obumdo however, I do consider myself a truther to the point that I wish for only the truth be told and not all this cover up that seems to be going on here. I think that at least we should look into this to see if in fact Obumdo is truthfull in what he is saying. Our commander in theif is taking this country for a ride and should be exposed.
Report Post »Jediusetheforce
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:41pmYour Wrong On this One Glenn!!!!
VERY QUIETLY OBAMA’S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT
AP – WASHINGTON D.C. –
In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has Released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College … Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama’s legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, “Obama Eligibility Questioned,” leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama’s first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president.. Donofrio‘s case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama’s citizenship or qualification to serve as president.
Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. Attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter…
LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON’T !
Subject: RE: Issue of Passport?
While I’ve little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi ?
So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?
And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?
The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama’s citizenship a rather short and simple one.
Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.
Q: What passport did he travel under?
A: There are only three possibilities.
1) He traveled with a U.S. … Passport,
2) He traveled with a British passport, or
3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.
Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.
If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims.. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.
Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a “natural born” American citizen between 1981 and 2008.
Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.
If you Don’t care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Deletethis, and then lower your American Flag to half-staff, because the U.S. Constitution is already on life-support, and won’t survive much longer.
If you do care then Forward this to as many patriotic Americans as you can, because our country is being looted and ransacked!
Report Post »goku17
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 11:00pmFor the idiots out there who don‘t know how to ’google.” For once Glenn Beck is right. But of course, even the blind monkey sometimes finds the banana. Below you‘ll find a link to Obama’s publicly released birth certificate. It’s the official Hawaii form. IDIOTS
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Report Post »southerncross
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 11:13pmRegardless of where obama was born, his father was a british citizen at the time of his borth, and his mother was too young to have tranfered any citizenship to him what so ever via her own status given the fact that she did NOT meet the legal criteria to do so………….so Obama was never, even though the record states it as such, a DUAL citizen at all……….he was born a full fledged BRITISH citizen, even if he was born in Hawaii. Being a ‘citizen” is NOT the same as being an NBC, and you can NOT steal a british citizenship and replace it with an American one AFTER THE FACT, ie, the birth of Obama………….. I hope this helps you understand the real issue Glenn………. an ENGLISHMAN working for the QUEEN is being aided by your good mate GEORGE SOROS to reignite the ROMAN EMPIRE under the queen of Englands crown! any questions, Glenn?
Report Post »Lamarr01
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 11:33pmPlease remember: Facts Don’t Matter.
Facts:
(1) The Certificate of Live Birth and the Birth Announcements were created in PhotoShop.
(2) A Long-Form Birth Certificate will be “discovered” at a critical time.
(3) The authorities that would investigate and prosecute are involved in the cover-up.
(4) Obama loyalists are told what to believe, do and say.
(5) Constitution doesn’t matter anyway.
(6) Obama will prevail as long as he serves the puppet masters.
(6) The “shadow” Federal Government is a criminal and corrupt organization that serves itself.
Welcome to the New World Order.
Report Post »Tea Party Conservatism
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 11:34pm@ Islesfordian
You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting. In what world could you possibly justify disseminating such subversive misinformation?
You ceaselessly expound on the law as a self anointed expert, critical and condescending of others to a fault, yet you are decidedly not a lawyer. Furthermore you fail to mitigate this contempt for others with source references remotely supporting your uninformed opinions arrogantly presented as fact.
You errantly stated, “You are referencing the OLD statute. It was changed in 1986 making her status qualify to give him legal citizenship at birth. The new overwrites the old, just like with any other law.”
New or amended laws are not automatically retroactive. They do not invalidate violations of prior laws or statutes in force during the time in question. For example, if the tax laws are changed, one is not penalized for not meeting the new statute prior to it’s enactment. If you get a speeding ticket and then later the speed limit is raised, the change does not result in your driving record be expunged of the violation and your fine returned.
When others have tolerantly provided you with credible links hoping to illuminate the truth for your enlightenment, you obviously ignore their generosity as so many pearls cast before swine.
One pearl was a site by Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
Natural Born Citizen – A Place to Ask Questions and Get the Right Answers
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/08/law-of-nations-and-not-english-common.html
This site discusses the U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 1, “natural born Citizen” presidential eligibility clause. For example, ‘The Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law’ as U.S. Federal Common Law Not English Common Law Define What an Article II Natural Born Citizen Is.
Try your troll tactics there with Mr. Apuzzo and see what happens!
Another expert recommendation was:
Why Obama is ineligible – regardless of his birthplace
By Leo C. Donofrio, Esq.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=134881
Yet you continuously reference the site usconstitutiondotnet/consttop_citi.html, designed and maintained by the infamously incorrect unknown Steve Mount, listing no expert professional credentials or deserving of any authoritative academic recognition or oversight. Apparently your attraction to his obscure less than scholarly site, is that Steve knows no more about the Constitution than you do.
It has also been pointed out to you with, no less than a link To Cornell Law, that US Code Title 8 Section 1401, which you so often abuse in your hot headed fever addled arguments, makes no mention of a natural born citizen – at all.
In addition, Obama was never, “reclassified as a natural born citizen” and as for the Constitution and a natural born citizen… oh what’s the use, great googly-moogly, the errors in your deluded deliberate deception maliciously meander mindlessly to infinity and beyond.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:52amTea Party Conservatism
Report Post »The argument advanced by Mario Apuzzo is not a new one. It was argued before the Supreme Court by the LOSING side in the case of US v Wong Kim Ark. They heard it and didn’t buy it. They decided that the definition of a natural born citizen of the United States would be based on English Common Law, not the Law of Nations, and that anyone born here was a natural born citizen even if neither of their parents were citizens of this country at the time of their birth. If you want to overturn a major precedent setting Supreme Court decision made over a hundred years ago, you need a new argument, not the exact same argument that already lost the last time they considered the issue.
Chet Hempstead
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 2:32amTea Party Conservatism
Report Post »Your claim that US Code Title 8 Section 1401 does not include the exact phrase “natural born citizen” is a meaningless flimflam. The phrase that it does use – “Citizens of the United States at birth” means exactly the same thing. There are only two kinds of citizens, natural born and naturalized. Any argument based on an attempt to attach some new special meaning to the phrase natural born other than what it has always been understood to mean is entirely bogus.
arnash
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 3:24amPeople, representatives, Senators, commentators and anchors have arrived at an opinion about a very serious legal matter based on zero verifiable evidence in support of their conclusion, unaware that they’re taking a position based on unproven “common sense” presumptions instead of facts. Such subjective beliefs are held without regard for whether or not they should be supported by verification in order to not violate the U.S. Constitution. It doesn’t matter what anyone believes. Beliefs are irrelevant. Don’t tell me what you believe, show me what you can prove.
Report Post »But regardless of the fact that there is no certified documentation or testimony that he was born in Hawaii, he is ineligible to be president even if he was born in the White House. The Constitution doesn’t require that he be born in the U.S., it requires that he be born to U.S. citizens, that he be a natural citizen by reason of birth to citizens. Anyone who is more than a citizen, i.e. a hyphenated citizen, a dual-citizen is prohibited because their citizenship is passed from father to son, and a foreign father is a subject of a foreign power, along with his off-spring. Obama senior was a subject of the British Empire, as was his off-spring who is thereby eliminated from eligibility for the presidency, (though he can serve in any and every other capacity, even Supreme Court Chief Justice, but he cannot serve as Commander-In-Chief). When (if) this fact becomes widely known he will not be certifiable by the certifying committees of the Democratic Party in each of the 50 states and will have to withdraw from the race, being replaced by Hillary Clinton. He could serve as her Vice-President though. And, strange as it seems, that might actually happen. For better or worse, he was not born as a natural US citizen and his election is in direct violation of of what our nation’s founders explicitly prohibited. http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/03/minor-v-happersett-88-u-s-162-1874/ http://theobamafiles.com/ObamaCOLB.htm P.S. He believes he was born in Hawaii because no one ever told him differently, but he knows he doesn’t have a birth certificate (from Hawaii ) because he, like every person does, has tried to obtain a copy and was not able to. (my explanation for why he won’t/can’t reveal it)
ItsintheBible
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 9:11amIt amazes me how easily people are willing to jump on the bandwagon. If Glenn is against this, there is probably a good reason. All of this is just a distraction and taking time away from what is important. We need a new president! If Trump’s investigations gets Obama out of the white house sooner, good, but that has nothing to do with his qualifications as a president. As far as I’m concerned all candidates need to take a lie detector test to show their true intentions. They would need to put their heart and soul into protecting this country and it’s people from our enemies. And to stand with Israel! We need to get serious, people! We don’t have time for distractions, and we certainly can’t afford a mistake!
Report Post »Deane
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 9:42amsorry Glenn…you are wrong on this issue…someone has to pursue this until his birth certificate is authenticated….period!
Report Post »Tea Party Conservatism
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 8:59pm@ Chet Hempstead
Thanks for the invitation to play whack-a-mole but the burden remains on you to initially support your own claims by offering more than mere personal opinion. Mean while, here’s a few helpful tips.
First, attorney Mario Apuzzo‘s law expertise stands very well on it’s own merit.
His site is entitled, “Natural Born Citizen – A Place to Ask Questions and Get the Right Answers”
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/08/law-of-nations-and-not-english-common.html
Second, your hopefully unintentional misinterpretation of U.S. v. wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) and your curious omission of the related case of Minor v. Happersett (1874) 21 Wall. 162, 166-168, merits reading attorney Leo Donofrio’s highly informative and concise article, “Why Obama is ineligible – regardless of his birthplace.”
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=134881
Leo Donofrio is the author of the excellent Natural Born Citizen blog.
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/
You may also wish to consider “TheObamaFile” regarding Obama’a ineligibility.
Report Post »http://www.theobamafile.com/
IllShowYouMineIfIBDaPrez
Posted on April 18, 2011 at 10:24pmOh, Glenn, you sneaky Mormon you! I LOVE you to pieces! Kissy, kissy! You’re throwing all the Lefties in a tizzy! They hate you and don’t believe you. And then you say Obama is an American. And now they’re questioning their Chosen One! They’re dumping him left and right! Come here, big guy, and let me give you another big kissy! Mmmwah!
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