Student Body President at Cal State Fresno Is Illegal Immigrant
- Posted on November 17, 2010 at 11:39pm by
Meredith Jessup
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Immigration activists are cheering for Cal State Fresno student body president Pedro Ramirez for being an example of the potential of America’s illegal immigrant population. But since an anonymous tip to the school’s newspaper outed Ramirez as an illegal alien who has been living in the U.S. since he was three-years-old, critics are demanding his resignation.
(Fresno BeeZ / August 27, 2009)
According to the LA Times, Ramirez learned he wasn’t a United States citizen when his parents revealed the secret as he was filling out college applications. Ramirez carried the secret with him to Cal State University where the 22-year-old now studies political science.
“In a way, I’m relieved,” Ramirez told the Times. “I don’t want to be a liability or cost the school donations. I never really thought this was going to happen. But now that it’s out there, I finally feel ready to say ‘Yes, it’s me. I’m one of the thousands.’ ”
But many are unhappy with Ramirez and are demanding his resignation, saying he wasn’t honest with the student body about his immigration status when he ran for president. “He misled the students … he should step down,” Cole Rojewski, president of the campus‘ College Republicans and one of Ramirez’s opponents in the race for president, said in a television interview.
Meanwhile, Cal State school officials claim Ramirez broke no rules in running for student body president and cannot be forced to resign. “To our way of thinking he hasn’t done anything wrong,” said Paul Oliaro, vice president for Student Affairs.
“This is a very diverse region, agriculture is dominant, and this is going to cause a lot of controversy. But the reality is that these students are … here, they’re legitimate students, and if anything, Pedro shows what they can contribute,” Oliaro said, adding, “We’ll see how this plays out.”
It‘s unclear whether Ramirez’s immigration status was disclosed to university admissions at the time he applied. With no citizenship papers, Ramirez reportedly couldn’t qualify for most financial aid plans. However, he began attending the university after the state’s legislature approved a law allowing any student who attended a California high school for at least three years to pay in-state tuition rates, regardless of citizenship status.
Though the anonymous newspaper tip revealed Ramirez’s secret to his fellow students, school officials had known of his illegal status.
“He personally notified me and ASI advisers about his immigration status, and volunteered to serve without pay as president, since his status does not allow him to receive a paycheck,” Cal State Fresno President John Welty said in a prepared statement.
The revelation of Ramirez’s citizenship status comes as Democratic leaders in Congress are preparing to vote on the DREAM Act before the close of the 111th Congress and just two days after the California Supreme Court unanimously voted to allow illegal immigrants who graduate from state high schools to receive in-state tuition rates at California’s public universities.
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Comments (188)
Veritas
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:46amI planned all kinds of things to say, but what is the point! Our country has decided to let this be a nation of men and NOT laws! I pray we can return it to the opposite!
Report Post »pavnvet
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 9:45amI agree, this just makes your eyes want to bleed.
Report Post »WTH is up with our government
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:45amCA’s debt is because of their own bad choices, I do not want the Gov’t using any of my money to bail CA out of debt for their own financial suicide that happens time and time again. Let Nancy open up her personal checkbook and spread her wealth around if she feels that strong about it. The Gov’t needs to stop giving money to the sanctuary cities to, let them pay for their own generosity. Let‘s see what choices they make when their residents have to pay for their Representatives’ bad decisions.
Report Post »Dale
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:44amOnce it meant something to be an American. The Left has eroded that status, along with every other worthy thing; they devalue the valuable, they deceive because they cannot tell the truth and succeed. Read John 8:44, and you’ll see who leads them: the same being Alinsky dedicated ‘Rules for Radicals’ to. California is but the shining (although heavily patinaed) example of that Kingdom.
Report Post »Alydia
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:42amBoot him…not only out of school but out of the country. P.S., take your family with you!
Report Post »proberly
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:41amCome on! I don‘t care if he isn’t a citizen or not, but to be in this country he is supposed to be a citizen. Either we have immigration laws or no laws. Some one has to make up their mind. The man is an illegal, whether it’s his fault or not. He should be sent back to where his family came from. They aren’t citizens either. So the same for them. He took advantage of our government and the taxpayers. Does the government know what is going on, do they care or are they just stupid?
Report Post »dasmoondog
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:40amunited states President at pennsylvania avenue Is Illegal Immigrant
Report Post »….just replace the names with barry’s…you get the idee:)
amerbur
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:38amThere are many American citizens, who have children who go to college out of state and are not able to get in state tuition. Both of my children, live, work and go to college in Oregon and have never qualified for in state tuition or for any other grants. This just does not seem fair. I am happy this young man did well but I think I may be paying the price for others who should be contributing to the cost.
Report Post »iceblast
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:36am“Pedro Ramirez for being an example of the potential of America’s illegal immigrant population.”
I think people are misunderstanding something here. I don’t think people think that Illegal Immigrants are stupid, or worthless, or not as good as Legals.
Every other country would prevent, and/or deport someone that didn’t have a Legal right to be there.
There is a Legal way to enter America, and become a American.
Do I think Pedro Ramirez should be deported. No. If it’s true that he was 3 years old when his parents brought him to America Illegally, then he didn’t break the law, his parents did. If he was under the age of 18, he should be deported back with his family, or possibly give the family a chance to earn their citizenships’ depending on each case.
Pedro Ramirez should now be force to start the process to become a legal citizen. He shouldn‘t be just granted citizenship just because he’s a smart guy.
If you come to America, Then you should want to be a American, and you should Pledge to The American Flag, and learn to speak English, and protect the Constitution, and pay taxes. Just like the rest of us should.
Report Post »calijohn
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:28amgood for him.
Report Post »i guess he should have known when he came here (at 3 years of age) he was illegal.
all you white guys out there – you are illegal too, unless you are a native american.
Hill Country Patriot
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:51am@CALIJOHN:
Since it’s obvious you hate this country and how it was founded, why don’t you just leave? As far as us WHITE men being illegal–what kind of logic is that? Last time I checked, before our Great Nation was formed, there was no other single nation holding this land. Oh, you are probably referring to the estimated 12,000 indian tribes that had been fighting amongst themselves for centuries before we got here. You are right, we did conquer them–all of them–but why cry over spilt milk.
Report Post »Docroxall
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 1:01amYou are an idiot…SHUT UP!
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 2:06amYou think “native Americans” were the original people on this land? LOL! Keep showing your stupidity moron. This wasn’t America then and the peoples that lived on this land fought over it also, so again, you’re a pathetic ignorant fool. Land belongs to anyone who is willing to fight for it and defend it, end of story.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 2:54amI didn’t come here………. I was born here. Unlike the Kenya commie low-life in the White House
Report Post »blacksmith
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 3:45amYou are a great psychic! You can tell a persons race by a post on an internet site. Okay now I’ll give you an easy one. How many fingers am I holding up?
Report Post »OKCWoman
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 6:58amOh Please!!!!!!!!!!! So he didn’t know until he applied for college. What do you think his responsibility should have been at that time?? I feel like I live in the United States of America & CA is a whole other country. You guys are falling off a cliff due to your massive debt, and what do you do, refuse to change course. So if you get bailed out, it’s my money that is helping bail you out, and quiet frankly I am tired of doing it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »GrandmaPatriot
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:20amThis is local to me. Our talk shows have been flooded with calls to deport him, fine him, and force him to repay his tuition. Since the Cal University system is just this week actively seeking out of state students, who pay higher tuition, I can see them simply charging him more, as if money can buy a person’s legitimacy. Oh, wait….
Report Post »mrmikejohnson
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:10amCalifornia is a complete joke. I can’t believe that the entire state is incapable of making the connection with the refusal to deport illegal immigrants with their ridiculously bad economic situation.
The media is talking about illegals receiving “in state tuition”. What that actually means is that the taxpayers are paying for the college education of illegal immigrants. In-state-tuition means taxpayer subsidized.
Republicans cannot give 1 cent of federal dollars to help California until California starts deporting illegals instead of giving scarce dollars to educate them.
Report Post »mseljos
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:10amIt’s nothing more than infiltration by foreign powers. It happens just as often with Canadians, as well as people from many other parts of the world. Mexico would like nothing more than to regain control of the American Southwest. America is rapidly losing its identity. The future of our great nation is at risk if we can’t elect people who will take a pledge to stop this. We must also do something about the astonishing ignorance of the American people.
Report Post »rojotx
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:07ammy oh my, He let them know, but hey, its ok he didnt break any Laws! WHAT!!
http://bcast.eamped.com
Report Post »cstcomputers
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:02amBroke? Anyone wonder why?
Report Post »Values101
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:02amDeport.
Report Post »ivdad
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:00amRepay the cost of your education to the people of CA, pack you bags and get out. Go to the back of the line and if you have any skills that would benefit the Countryyou may be allowed in, legally. By the way, lying and wanting to be a politician is not a skillset for the USA. We already have enough of the home grown variety.
Report Post »greggor
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 11:58pmJust how many of them “contribute” to our prison population?
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 2:37amGREGGOR about 29% according to the FBI @ a cost of 3 billion dollars. How many American kids could go to collage with that money?
Report Post »Jamestown
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 5:02amFor every penny mexicans pay in taxes….they receive 31 Cents from state governments
Report Post »mrlogan3
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:02pmFewer than the number of white Americans
Report Post »SpklerMan
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 11:58pmRound them up , send them back, make them pay a fine,make them do it right.
Report Post »starman70
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 7:20amThe INS agents are sitting with one thumb up their anal canal and the other in their mouth. They change thumbs every 5 minutes!
After all, what else can they do because BARRY won’t let them do their jobs!
Report Post »SaintGeorgeGentile
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 11:56pmI must be really out of touch, when did they start paying people for these positions? From the Salt Lake Tribune’s website running the LA Times story:
Report Post »“After his election last June, he told the administration he would serve without pay – a $9,000 stipend – because he could not lie on employment papers. On Tuesday, an anonymous tip to the college newspaper forced Ramirez to go public.”
NoName22
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:35am“This is a very diverse region, agriculture is dominant, and this is going to cause a lot of controversy. But the reality is that these students are … here, they’re legitimate students, and if anything, Pedro shows what they can contribute,” Oliaro said, adding, “We’ll see how this plays out.”
I’ll clip it again.
“This is a very diverse region, agriculture is dominant, and this is going to cause a lot of controversy.”
Racist? Oh wait……when you use stereotypes to PROMOTE diversity, it’s called progress. My bad.
Report Post »CaptainSpaulding
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 11:55pmThere are several laws I don’t like: can I ignore them?
Why not?
Why am I punished when guys like this can walk?
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:07amExactly.
“I’m an income tax avoider. Accept me”.
I’m willing to go with that. What’s the problem after all?
Report Post »Eagle07
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:06pmYes we can say no one told us for the last 20 yrs that it was illegal not to file taxes.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 11:51pmIt’s California, wouldn’t expect anything else from that corrupt, broke state. Place charges all along the San Andreas fault line, blow it, let it fill with water and send all the communists there and let’s see how long it is before they completely implode.
Report Post »BoilitDown
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 4:34amCalifornia needs to change it’s stationary to Mexico and be done with it. The rest of the country needs to treat California according to their behavior — A Foreign Territory.
Report Post »We’ve got to cut our losses and erect a border fence around the state.
With the re-election of Brown as their governor, it became quite apparent that Californians are incapable of learning from their mistakes. There is no use in continuing to believe they will someday achieve consciousness and fend for themselves. They must be removed from reasoning, decent and lawful society as you would any individual who cannot correct their behavior. We cannot afford to keep expending resources and energy on them.
Eagle07
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 6:58amMaybe when California goes bankrupt we should just sign it over to Mexico.Heck the economies would be about the same and the are already almost entirely Mexican.
Report Post »Hill Country Patriot
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 11:49pmSo is I.C.E. going to do its’ job here and deport this criminal and liar? No, I didn’t think so.
Once again, selective enforcement of our nation’s laws is on display.
Report Post »Jamestown
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 5:32amIce takes orders from bary…police in ca are union and have never upld the law…its ca employers that hire mexicqns…employers that hire illegals are illegal…replace govnt. Prostitutes and refuse to bail out mexifornia..
Report Post »what4
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 11:47pmWell all I can say go to mexico and get in line, or fix that toilet down there and become Presidente!
Report Post »EP46
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 6:31amWhat will he do when he graduates? He is illegal, he has no legal social security number, he cannot legally go to work in the US. So does he take this great expensive education we paid for and go to some other country?
Report Post »JGP
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 7:12amHe won’t get a job. He’ll be an activist for La Raza getting an income from Soros. He’ll be active in turning this country into another hell hole like Mexico, a country his parents thought they needed to leave. Where do we go when the progressives destroy this country? Can someone point out the country that is a progressive utopia? It does not work, never has, never will. It only works for the politicians that don’t have to live by the laws they create. People on the left, why do you want to be ruled? Why do you settle for the crums doled out by big government?
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:48pmWith the dream act he will become legal. The question is, did he ever apply to become a legal citizen after he found out he is breaking the law? Maybe he is waiting for old dingy Harry to fix his immigration status for him.
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 11:46pmNot a news for CA but it’s costing the state a lot of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Report Post »HUGGINGMYBABIES
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 11:52pmAt least he saved some $$ on his tuition right?
Report Post »nsblues
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 11:45pmIts not about what they can contribute its about the law.
Report Post »MAULEMALL
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:03amThats ok… In this country they don’t ask for a birth certificate when they run for any pres office
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:06amSo, um, deport him and his parents. Next?
Report Post »cmr396
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:17amyeah this doesnt show us what they can contribute. it shows me how well they can cheat our system. He’s using our schools. probably went to public school throughout his life. And didnt have to pay taxes into it. Oh thats just great. Im glad to hear that this man is so honorable that he would knowingly lie and rip off the country that has been so good to him.
CALIFORNIA = JOKE! and i live here -_______-
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:20amOnce again California demonstrates going over the PC cliff at full speed with a jet powered sports car and the ocean facing you below.
Report Post »cmr396
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:21amthe worst part is this is all out in the open. Pedro Ramirez who goes to Fresno Sate is an illegal immigrant. NOW DEPORT HIM!!!! he’s not a U.S.
Sorry Pedro, but the truth is you have no RIGHT to be here…
Report Post »CatB
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:23amSadly I am not surprised … when can we deport him ..illegal is illegal.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:38amPut him on the next bus out!
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:59amI say make an example out of him and run his butt out of the country.
Report Post »Maybe he can make a difference in his native country!
Sorry for the attitude, but when I break the law, I pay the price. So should he!
independentvoteril
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 2:37amand now we have another waste of tax dollars that SHOULD have gone to a AMERICAN CITIZEN.. and they are proud.. any taxpayer in this country should be really mad..and double if they paid for full freight for their kids education..
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 3:20amnsblues
Posted on November 17, 2010 at 11:45pm
“Its not about what they can contribute its about the law.”
Elegant and to the point. Thank you!
PatriotShops.com
Report Post »Jamestown
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 4:27amOh that’s nothing…I know this guy from two or three different races of people…hell he doesn’t even have proof he went to shool…neither one of them paysthe tuition…taxpayers I…ifits notskuts ir byrrutos…wh do people gi to Ca
Report Post »Jamestown
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 4:30amOh that’s nothing…I know this guy from two or three different races of people…hell he doesn’t even have proof he went to school…neither one of them pays the tuition…taxpayers do…if its not sluts or burritos …why do people go to Ca
Report Post »SummerB
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 4:35amCMR396, can’t you read? He only found out that he didn’t have legal citizenship from his parents WHEN he was filling out college apps, so it was shocking news to him.
Proberly, “he” didn’t take advantage of our government and the taxpayers — he was only 3 years old when he was brought here. His parents did. I have no problem with the parents being deported, but this kid has been here for 19 years &, legal or not, this kid was raised believing he was an American citizen & should be allowed to apply for citizenship. There will always been extenuating circumstances like this where people are literally caught in the middle. With every rule there is always as exception. This kid shouldn’t have to pay the price for his parents actions.
Report Post »Jamestown
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 5:09amMexicans are very honest…..AFTER THEYGET CAUGHT….I can’t believe you turncoats….this is what progressives bringto you….shove the mexican in jail orsend him to the land that approves of felony….quit forcing me to pay for your mexican friends…you have no legal right to forgive illegal mexicans
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 5:58amIllegal and proud of it. We’re no longer a country of laws. Our Justice Dept. has been selectively enforcing the laws for a long time.
Report Post »How will we ever turn this mess around?
Devil in Arkansas
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 6:31amLet’s face it– this is why we are having an illegal immigration problem. We’ve allowed them to get away with it because of a bleeding-heart-liberal attitude, and they’ve taken the queue for a generation or more. We have to send the illegals a message– enter this country the correct way, just as we must do if we want to come to yours, or suffer the consequences. Since there haven’t been any consequences, their numbers have grown. If this Ramirez kid is so smart, then he should do well and pass his entrance exam with flying colors– in the meantime, TAKE YOUR PARENTS HOME, AND FILL OUT THE APPLICATION FROM MEXICO!
Report Post »Eagle07
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 6:45amSUMMERB They all should be deported.I don’t care how long he has been here.If you just deport the parents and allow him to become a citizen than thats what the dream act is trying to do.He will than sponsor his parents and as many brothers and sisters and we will pay for it all only differance is it will be legal.If me and my wife murdered someone my kids would be put in foster homes Government wouldn’t give us special treatment because we have kids.He should be made to go to college in Mexico and apply like every other person.
Report Post »thesixfour
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 7:10amAnyone have the phone number for ICE?
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 7:12amHe’s been through our whole school system….why not become a citizen now? He‘s 22 and can say he didn’t know until a little while ago. Or is he willing to risk deportment to a country that he’s never known? No, he’d rather study law and find a way to let all the illegals in.
Report Post »AnnMarie
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 7:57amWhen will this end and the law of this land followed???? The illegals know what they have to do to become legal, yet do nothing… Why?? Because they do not have to. They can get things that legal citizens get so why bother. This really sickens me. I hope that this new Congress tackles this immigration horror… Ends once and for all this sliding amnesty nonsense and gets down to business in protecting this nation against those who want to harm us and those who are here illegally.
Report Post »AmazingGrace
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 8:04amAmen to that! When will they get it?!
Report Post »JKN
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 10:06amDeport him and his family… And blame his parents for breaking our laws… Actions do have consequences…
Report Post »The Giver
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 11:08amANNMARIE- You sound like you genuinely want to understand why they keep coming here illegally. I heard on Stossel that because it’s the low skilled Mexicans that want to come here, it would take over 100 years to be approved for entry.You have to have skills that this country needs. They don’t all have family members that can sponsor them. Yet I agree with NSBLUES. It’s about the law. Too bad we have all these government programs that kill the spirit, and the possibility of the Dems buying votes with the giveaways. I came here legally from Cuba as a child. We waited for years to get out of that island prison. The Socialist Utopia of Cuba. This great country adopted me. I paid to get through nursing school. You have to give back, when a country like this opens its arms to you. Not Take. These American and Mexican Socialists want to equalize us all. But some will always be more equal than others. We can see that from the $179,000.00 salaries the Congress pays itself. Even Bush betrayed the trust.
Report Post »Grozy1
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 11:13amDon’t know if anybody else did this but if you want to go to this website http://www.csufresno.edu/studentaffairs/contact/index.shtml, click on email Student Affairs and let Paul Oliaro, vice president for Student Affairs know how you feel. He obviously needs a lesson on the law.
Report Post »TheFreeMan
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 11:23amAgreed my friend. Its similar too gangsters justifying their crimes in the name of “survival”.
Report Post »angryinms
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 11:50ami want to know how in the hell illegals get college funding to go to universities!!!! this is absolutely mind blowing
Report Post »slimster
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 12:04pmIt is about the law! Good rules and laws should be followed, other wise there is no justice or liberty. That being said, we all know how messed up the government is and how many bad laws there are. Even the good ones that we have are not followed or obeyed all the time.. if government kept the integrity of our boarders then we wouldn’t have so many illegals, even more if government didn‘t create the federal reserve we wouldn’t have subsidized agriculture which makes it hard for other countries to compete in a fair and balanced manner.. a lot of our governments bad policy over the last 100 years has created the desire for people to immigrate here, even if they had to do it illegal.
Bad laws need to be appealed. The Nazis were following their laws when they murdered millions of people. That is why it is so important that we vote to put people into power who have the moral character to lead by implementing and enforcing “good” laws. And have the courage stand up against and remove bad laws.
To every one saying that, “Illegals need to be deported and go apply to come back in the legal way.” You are right, but consider this. The same people who set up the new TSA airport security, are the same people who set up the immigration process. I know they are not the same individuals, but they are the same government with the same mind set, and yes, they like to grab people by their “junk” and make the whole process completely ridiculous.
That being said.. We as a country need to continue taking back our government and we need to fix our immigration/financial system. it is sad that a child has to suffer because his parents didn’t obey a broken system. and it is not just 1 child, it is millions.. in 2009 more children were born in American hospitals belonging to “immigrants” than to natural us citizens.
Report Post »God bless.
stage9
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 1:04pmThe law? What’s that? Liberals don’t obey laws.
Report Post »keogh12345
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 6:18pmcan we just cut california off the U.S. mainland and let them drift out into the pacific ocean?
Report Post »Compete or Lose
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 7:22pm.
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THis is about DISHONESTY
When is it OK to LIE?
What is the message that this sends???
silentwatcher
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 10:45pmand now that we know????? He lied (yes-omission of the true is a lie) so do the right thing…which, by the way, is adherance to the law. I’m sick and tired of seeing lies and corruption being forgiven while the rest of us pay for the mistakes. Our system is breaking down because of it. And who, pray tell, paid for his extended education?
Report Post »valricoslash
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 8:16amThe Dream act is just a back door way of legalizing illegal immigrants. While it seems innocent on the surface that these kids were brought to this country by their parents, many as small children, the fact is that this will open the flood gates for citizenship for not only these kids but in the end for the illegal parents and then eventually for every member of their extended families. Additionally, why should an illegal get a tuition break over a student from another state that is an American citizen? Is this fair? And, how come the college and universities are not doing a credible job of background checking these students prior to admission? Finally, now that he has outed himself, why is he still at the school and does the school plan on getting back tuition for what is owed? Why has he not been picked up by the INS? Also, how does an illegal pass the background check to get in the military? I can understand those with green cards, but ILLEGALS? And if he is an illegal, regardless of the degree he gets, how des he plan on acquiring a law license? It seems to me we are granting too many special favors to people that should be deported.
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