Study: Children From Same-Sex Homes Have Lower Income, Poorer Mental & Physical Health
- Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:11pm by
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People on both sides of the same-sex adoption debate have extremely passionate views on the matter. While those who stand opposed to gay adoptions charge that the institution could negatively impact children, individuals in support claim that there is virtually no difference between the kids who come from straight and gay homes. Now, a new study published in the journal “Social Science Research” tackles this very ideal, finding that there are, indeed, major differences worth noting.
These purported discrepancies exist in the areas of social, emotional and relationship measures, Deseret News reports. The study, which is bound to be controversial, found lower reported income levels, poorer mental and physical health and more problematic romantic relationships, among adults who came from same-sex homes. Among 40 measures, there were 25 differences observed among this cohort when compared to kids who were raised in heterosexual households. Deseret continues:
The research does not address why the differences exist. It doesn’t predict if changing attitudes that are more accepting of same-sex relationships will mean that children growing up today with same-sex parents will one day fare better in similar analysis. It doesn’t address stigma or whether the difference is not the sexual preference of the parents but rather how stable the home life was, lead investigator Mark Regnerus, associate professor of sociology at University of Texas Austin’s Population Research Center, told the Deseret News.
“Nor does the study tell us that same-sex parents are necessarily bad parents,” he said in a written statement. “Rather, family forms that are associated with instability or non-biological parents tend to pose risks for children as they age into adulthood.”
His study does challenge long-held assertions that there are no outcome differences between children raised in intact biological families and those with same-sex parents.
In assembling his study, Regnerus used data from the New Family Structure Study (NFSS) to examine adults aged 18 to 39 who were raised in gay households. He compared these results to those found among individuals living with biological parents, co-habiting adults, single-parents, step-parents or adoptive parents, among others. Now, it is important to note that, among the 3,000 adults for which data was available, only 175 said they came from lesbian homes; 73 said they came from homes where their father was engaged in a same-sex relationship.
These numbers represent relatively small samples and, thus, could easily be questioned as inadequate by those opposed to the results. Regnerus, himself, maintains that the lesbian households were more reliable in terms of exploring the situation, because more data was available for them. In the end, lesbian mothers compare most favorably to step-families and single parents — not to intact families comprised of biological mothers and fathers.
Regnerus is careful not to conclude that same-sex parenting accounts for the outcome differences. Rather, his data merely showcases a comparison between the structures. There may be numerous intervening factors that create these issues among children from same-sex homes — issues that have nothing to do with the nature of gay relationships and parenting. Deseret continues:
He eliminated socioeconomics, age, politics, gender, geography, race and bullying as explanations for the gaps he found between family structure types.
Is it the stigma the parents felt? He doesn’t know. “We didn’t talk to parents, and I can’t measure stigma.” Single-parent and step-families have, much like same-sex parents, “a higher degree of instability” compared to intact biological families, he said. It’s probably not just having a man and woman, either, since step-families have those and the kids don’t fare as well.
Beyond the controversy surrounding whether the notion that children from these cohorts are similar in adulthood, Loren Marks, a professor at Louisiana State University, has some critiques for past studies that have been done on the matter. In a separate analysis in “Social Science Research,” he claims that past studies about same-sex parenthood are biased and unreliable. Deseret continues:
He lists seven concerns with the science, including the fact that “well-educated, relatively wealthy lesbian couples have been repeatedly compared to single-parent heterosexual families instead of two-parent marriage-based families.” Single-parent families typically have poorer child outcomes across several measures, so it’s easier to look better against them, he said.
It is important to note that this research differs greatly from past studies that have found no notable differences between children from same-sex households and kids from heterosexual families. You can read more about these studies as well as refutations from those who disagree with the findings over at Deseret News.
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Comments (249)
jackact
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:15pmAnd when they become adults, just like their same-sex parents, they will maintain a higher divorce rate than heterosexual married couples.
Report Post »What a travesty and tarnishing of the privilege of marriage.
This was predicted too.
atechgeek
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:53pmTake God and morals out of the picture and you get this result. Not sure you could expect any more.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 2:11pmI used to pick two kids up from a trailer park, and take them to church with my wife and I. They lived in the home of two lesbians. These kids had a tough row to hoe. I sure felt for them, as they lived in a real mess. Neither of them faired real well in their teen years, but I hear they are doing OK now.
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 2:27pmHa! Not remotely surprised Rangerp would “know” the trailer park. And the kids of the heterosexual people in the nearby trailers were not living in mess but on the cusp of making their way to the upper east side?
Report Post »encinom
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 2:59pmrangerp
Report Post »Posted on June 11, 2012 at 2:11pm
I used to pick two kids up from a trailer park, and take them to church with my wife and I. They lived in the home of two lesbians. These kids had a tough row to hoe. I sure felt for them, as they lived in a real mess. Neither of them faired real well in their teen years, but I hear they are doing OK now.
___________________
Of course the Bible Based Bigotry that you used to assault the parents of these kids didn’t help. But than again hate is the christian thing to do according to your religion.
rangerp
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 3:06pmCesium
Yep, Rangerp knows the kids of the trailer parks, the projects, and the getto. I have spent time in all of them, and it is worth every second. These kids do not forget when you help them, teach them, and spend time with them.
Yes, kids raised in filth, be it homosexuality, drugs, alcohol abuse, gambling, physical abuse, and all manner of evil have a tough time.
From your comment, I get the feelling that you believe the kids of the poor areas (especially the trailer parks) are some how beneath you. I would bet that you are a democrat?
James 1 27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world
Mark 16 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 3:15pmENCINOM
“Of course the Bible Based Bigotry that you used to assault the parents of these kids didn’t help. But then again hate is the Christian thing to do according to your religion”
You will notice that “hate” and “assault” are nowhere to be found in my post, but they appear in yours. Thus, you make things up.
If someone was good to your child, took them to church, took them fishing, took them out for ice-cream…. would you consider this an “assault”, or “hate” toward you?
There is nothing you can do more to please me, than to do that which is good to my child.
I do not speak of hating homosexuals, adopters, murders, child molesters, rapists, thieves…. I hate what they do, and I call sin to be sin, just as it is called in my Bible. My previous church had a number of women that were saved out of a lesbian lifestyle, to include drug abuse and alcoholism. they were as welcomed as anyone else. I used to shake hands with them, and sit by them.
Homosexuality is not something I would wish on anyone, no more than drug addiction. It is a miserable lifestyle, that includes disease, depression, sickness, suicide, and other problems. Ii would hope that anyone caught up in such a lifestyle would come out. The God I serve can save them, just like any other sinner. He can save you also ENCINOMl, I pray that he will.
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 3:17pmJust more proof that gays and lesbians should not be allowed to adopt or go to a sperm bank and get pregnant, of have a surrogate have a child for them. This is what happens when freaks raise kids.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 3:19pmI tend to believe this…when I am around couples like this…they want so bad to be a “regular” family that they will use children to achieve their goals…its really all about them and their sexuality.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 3:45pm@RANGERP
Good for you and thanks for your service!
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 4:39pm@ENICOM
Perhaps it’s for love the children, not hatred for the ‘parents’ that we protect the traditional marriage so vigorously. The fact that single parent families and same sex families score so low is an indication to us that we are right.
It is interesting to me that people who claim ‘reason’ as the ideal foundation for laws and behavior fail to use it in this instance.
Report Post »red2013
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 4:48pmThere is a credible study that shows that homosexuality is not a normal life style except in the minds of homosexuals themselves. They die prematurely at highest rate with highest stress, suicidal rate and diseases and highest instability when compared to heterosexuals. For further details, please go to this website: http://www.awmi.net/extra/article/christian_philosophy2
Report Post »Constantine Ivanov
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 4:48pm@ATECHGEEK:
“Take God and morals out of the picture and you get this result,” you said.
What proof do you have to assert that homosexualism (an ideology, as opposed to homosexuality as a biological disorder) cannot be condemned on other ground than God?
If and when your only argument against anusophilia (my term, don’t look in dictionaries yet) is God, you inevitably exclude non-religious, scientifically knowledgeable, and common-sense people.
I am not religious, but I strongly condemn anusophilia by several reasons other than God.
There are two types of homosexuals: real, genetic homosexuals, which is a biological deviation, a medical disorder; and those who play homosexuals because of sexual satiety, debauchery, vogue.
Many individuals of the second group often have own biological kids.
Accordingly, those two groups should be treated and considered differently.
The first group is a subject of medical and/or psychological treatment.
The second group needs to be worked with as any other radical movement.
And why I, an atheist, am against anusophilia?
Because by definition, it doesn’t procreate, it’s against procreation, which means, it’s against the keystone of Life – reproduction and multiplication, without which Life simply will extinct.
Even this one is a good reason to be strongly against anusophilia, no God’s interference is needed.
Besides that, there are serious medical diseases spread by that deviation, and many other reasons.
Report Post »Melvin Spittle
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 5:45pm@ENCINOM
“Of course the Bible Based Bigotry that you used to assault the parents of these kids didn’t help. But than again hate is the christian thing to do according to your religion.”
Whether conscious or unconscious, your comment and many others over the last year strongly suggest self deception through your use of ad hominem attacks and sophistry to defend and feed a lie to the point that you obsessively and irrationally waste your time attacking any one that posts from your keyboard of rage. What is your objective? You are either a deeply disturbed fool, or you are getting paid to troll.
Report Post »ronin_6
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 6:18pm@RangerP
“I do not speak of hating homosexuals, adopters, murders, child molesters, rapists, thieves…. I hate what they do, and I call sin to be sin, just as it is called in my Bible. ”
I curious what you mean by ‘adopters’. Not attacking here, just asking.
Report Post »000degrees
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 6:19pmRanger, you represent well and are setting the example. I don’t know you although I know your type and surround myself with your type. Eventually people see this and start to ask questions about their own lives. How many have you already helped with this??? You probably have no idea but they do…
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 8:18pmMan Ranger, I would love to take you up on that bet that I am a Democrat. How much in life savings do you have? I will easily dismiss your other ridiculous accusations as well. The whole point of what I said blew over your head as if you were standing in a wind tunnel. I am always entertained by your assumptions and conclusions that have no base in reality. Good show!
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 8:29pm@Ranger “It is a miserable lifestyle, that includes disease, depression, sickness, suicide, and other problems. Ii would hope that anyone caught up in such a lifestyle would come out. The God I serve can save them, just like any other sinner.”
That’s funny. I know a number of successful gay people in my graduate program. Non of them are sick.. They all appear to have more zeal for life than most even though people like you exist in the world and they are rather ambitious in their medical studies as well. The director of my graduate program is gay and very very well respected in his field. His work could cure family members of yours someday. Your reality is pretty insane but it is entertaining and typical of someone who thinks a magic creator wizard exists. Of these ghettos and trailer parks you go to, how are the heterosexual families doing raising their kids? The morality must be through the roof in comparison!
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 8:57pmronin_6
Sorry about that. auto spell fix changed my mis spelled Adulterer into adopter. I should have cought it
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 9:05pmCesium
It is you on here knocking the kids from the trailer parks, not me.
You might want to do some fact checking on your gay friends. Start with the Center for disease Control, and then check some FBI crime stats.
The CDC will enlighten you that they gay crowd is 2.5% of the population, but has 64% of the nations syphilis. They had 70% of the new HIV cases last year. Check out the gay bowel syndrome, the rate in which lesbians get STDs. Check and see how bad anal gonorrhea is in the gay community . You will also notice that gays have three time higher rates of suicide, and much higher drug and alcohol abuse.
Report Post »On the criminal side, check out the facts and see that gays commit a third of the nations child molestations. While the MSM does not say so, Mr. Jerry Sandusky is a homosexual. Men that have sex with other males are homosexual, thus is Sandusky.
rangerp
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 9:09pmCesium
“That’s funny. I know a number of successful gay people in my graduate program”
And? There are also successful child molesters, successful rapist, successful thievs. Sexual devience is still a devience, no matter what you portray to your graduat program peers.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 9:11pmRonin 6
dog gone. I mis spelled caught on my last reply. Oh well.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 9:15pm@000degres
“I know your type and surround myself with your type”
I am nothing more than a rotten sinner saved by Grace. I deserve to be in hell with my back broke, but by the grace of God, I do not have to be there.
I do love to help kids. I wish I had more time to spend with kids in bad situations.
Report Post »Independent4233
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 9:24pmOne of the greatest horrors in recent times is the adoption of innocent little children by homosexuals who want them in order to propagandize them into the homosexual lifestyle, because they cannot procreate and must recruit by hook or crook.
If there truly is a God in heaven, surely he will not allow this evil abomination to continue to ruin the lives of our most innocent little people.
http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/DaileyGayAdopt.php
Homosexual Parenting: Placing children at risk
Timothy J. Dailey Ph.D.
A number of studies in recent years have purported to show that children
Report Post »raised in gay and lesbian households fare no worse than those reared in
traditional families. Yet much of that research fails to meet acceptable
standards for psychological research; it is compromised by methodological
flaws and driven by political agendas instead of an objective search for
truth. In addition, openly lesbian researchers sometimes conduct research
with an interest in portraying homosexual parenting in a positive light. The
deficiencies of studies on homosexual parenting include reliance upon an
inadequate sample size, lack of random sampling, lack of anonymity of
research participants, and self-presentation bias.
Cesium
Posted on June 12, 2012 at 12:35am@ Ranger The lifestyles of the shunned and castigated do generally not provide statistics portraying a cherry side of life. My college roomate came from a farming family. He was biologically effeminate and went out of his way to pursue heterosexuality. I couldn’t believe he had girlfriends when I first met him but i just assumed he was gay and I met girls he dated… Until! he finally came out his senior and stopped hiding it. He didn‘t want to be gay did what you’d prefer. Try his damnedest not to be! But Because of people like you in our society who create the stigma, his eventual self-hate landed him in the hospital. Now, if you hate yourself mainly because you know the world hates you, why the hell would you give a **** if you get syphilis or not?
Report Post »kathykounselor
Posted on June 12, 2012 at 2:39amSo, the unfortunate children held hostage by lesbian/**** ‘couples’, do badly in their ‘family life’? Gee-I’m SHOCKED, SHOCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh puhleeze! This bombshell astounds me about as much as those asinine studies which announce, after a 10 million $ grant and years of research, that the sun rises in the East and sets in the West!
Give us all a break, and describe a study like this one in less-astonished terms. No one’s even slightly surprised!
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on June 12, 2012 at 2:52amCesium – It‘s not somebody else’s fault that he chose to commit suicide. Leftists like you will always blame somebody else for your problems rather than fix your own.
Report Post »000degrees
Posted on June 12, 2012 at 7:09amYep…Ranger, that’s the type…
Report Post »Commander8080
Posted on June 12, 2012 at 7:38amHomosexuality is EASY sex. You cannot stop with just one partner
Report Post »Commander8080
Posted on June 12, 2012 at 7:44am@ encinom
So hate does not exist outside Christianity? So, all those century’s with Romans, Greeks, Persians, and the list goes on and on. Does not count? Lets not forget the communist from the former Soviet, China, or North Korea. I guess they do not hate? The kill people because they love them so much?
Report Post »Leader1776
Posted on June 12, 2012 at 10:00am@CESIUM
Wow …….. you’re in a graduate program. If you were you should have been instructed that citing anecdotal stories is proof of nothing more than the experience of those involved in those stories ….. nothing more.
And it was quite obvious you were attacking the messenger in your original post. A bit lame to attempt discrediting RANGER’s reply. He schooled you ……… where your ‘graduate program’ has failed.
Report Post »Timothy_Reid
Posted on June 12, 2012 at 10:52am@cesium That’s funny. You couldn’t argue the stats ranger brought up so you found a way to say it was ok to spread them and not care. You shifted gears because you had no rebuttal of substance. That’s hilarious!
Report Post »JamesinOz1
Posted on June 12, 2012 at 11:54amThe author himself states that his study, as it pertains to gay people, is invalid:
Regnerus is careful not to conclude that same-sex parenting accounts for the outcome differences.
The sample of his study is too small to draw conclusions; there are also different socio-economic factors between gay men and lesbians. Of course all the homophobic bigots commenting here eagerly grab any opportunity to viciously attack gay people any way they can; what an appalling, disgusting bunch of people.
Report Post »JamesinOz1
Posted on June 12, 2012 at 11:57amOf course the 50-60% heterosexual divorce rate makes all heterosexual marraiges the picture of moral perfection…not.
Report Post »JamesinOz1
Posted on June 12, 2012 at 12:12pmAh yes the 60% divorce rate make hetero marraige such a picture of moral perfection…not.
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on June 12, 2012 at 3:43pm@Timothy Where did I disagree with put forth stats?
For the rest of you, I am quite amused…Some of you probably think I’m a liberal Obama voter too because it is easier for your minds to conclude and fit your model. Don’t worry, I know in your minds I will see the truth someday and your view will be vindicated. It just makes you feel oh so good inside.. Here’s the reality. Homosexuality despite my disinterest for it and your disgust for it, is a biological reality. It exists in the animal kingdom and humans are no exception. It’s as old as human history and not one gay person has appeased the bigots for 1000s and 1000s of years. You think your religion and your muslim brothers will achieve a gay free world in the next 1000? fantasy! The statistics Ranger danger puts forth don’t have to be that way. (if they are true because I didn’t go to the CDC or FBI site to look for myself) If closet gay guys like Sandusky or gays that are attracted to the holy catholic priesthood in attempts to oppose their “gayness” lived in a tolerant accepting world, their life paths would be quite different. People who are shunned and castigated will likely deal with what society hates about them in dark secretive and ultimately and criminal ways… If Sandusky could have led his life as a socially accepted gay man and respected coach not living a lie, you cannot assume his path would be pathological and criminal. Stats don‘t prove to me what hasn’t been tested yet.
Report Post »Dan_o
Posted on June 12, 2012 at 5:31pmNo doubt, this will be grounds for another “social program”. Adopted children of gay parents cannot be left behind!
Report Post »Granny58
Posted on June 13, 2012 at 7:47amDon’t attack RangerP. He couldn‘t have taken those kids to church without the parent’s permission! I think he did a wonderful thing, though I‘m sure I’ll be attacked too for thinking so.
By the way, I also have a teen who visits my very conservative household. He is from a lesbian couple in a trailer park! He’s a nice kid, but already on antidepressants. Additionally, due to my job I have a lot of insight into the amount of adolescents and teens who get admitted to psych wards or are on psych meds and 99.99% of the time they are children of broken homes. Just sayin’
Report Post »MN NICE
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:12pmGeezuz… A little research indicates 1500 species practice homosexual behavior around the world… Is there something in the water, or is a psychological disorder catchy?
Report Post »needmoinfo
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:39pmOnly man makes sex more than just a normal physical function. Homosexual activity in other species is just a craving for that relief irregardless of the means to achieve it. It is just a glitch in the dna, chromosomes, hormones etc. Man is intended to live a heterosexual life style inspite of that shortcoming. However, the world is full of unloved and unwanted children. Anyone who has love and caring to share with a child should do so no matter what. If they are not abusive parents we should applaud the sacrifice they are willing to take on to raise a child.
Report Post »Dale
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 3:31pmMN NICE;
“Geezuz… A little research indicates 1500 species practice homosexual behavior around the world… Is there something in the water, or is a psychological disorder catchy?” Okay, I’ll bite: where is your RESEARCH? It’s easy to say things in a forum, now I call you – where is your RESEARCH?
Report Post »scarebear83
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 3:50pmYes because when humans throw up they eat their vomit, or when they can‘t get to a bathroom they leave little presents on the living room floor or even go and hump a random person’s leg. To look to the animal kingdom as justification of homosexuality means it’s also ok for humans to do the above things mentioned.
Report Post »MN NICE
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 4:50pmWell, I’ll tell ya DALE… My first response to the article was going to be “Is there another mammal on God’s green earth that finds it acceptable to partake in homosexual behavior?”
But I figured someone like you would jump all over that and ask why I hadn’t done any research prior to posting… I was thinking that other than a confused, horny dog, there wouldn’t be any. So I googled it, and LO AND BEHOLD, there it was!!
That’s the extent of my (re)search… Now ease up off my back a little bit.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 8:30pmMN NICE:
Report Post »Do you only date amoebas and do you have to buy dinner?
MN NICE
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 10:35pmLOL as long as it‘s name isn’t Phil MaCrackin. And dinner’s not a problem… Heard they eat CHIPS
Report Post »JoeKing
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:12pmJust to get a gauge on how obsessed with homosexuality you “old covenant bible” people are, let’s have a poll. Vote for one of the following:
Report Post »A. 9 year old kid goes from foster home to foster home for the rest of his childhood without adoption.
B. 9 year old kid is adopted by loving gay couple, which granted is not as ideal as a loving hetero couple but he now has a loving stable home nonetheless.
rickc34
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:31pmAnd a higher risk of being molested. My sister in law takes care of foster kids and she has had 3 kids that have come out of same sex homes that had been molested by the adopted homosexual/lesbian parents.
Report Post »HowardSternIsABigot
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 2:14pmyes yes,c. if they live with a pony and goose that lays golden eggs and has lindsay lohan as their nanny. what about that obsessed christians?
Report Post »what a great argument.
crypticguise
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 2:26pmGet a life. If you wish to ignore the obvious no one can help you. Homosexuality is not a good lesson for children to learn or be indoctrinated in.
Report Post »red2013
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 4:40pmI have seen credible research on homosexuality and how it has been destroying the homosexuals. They die prematurely at extremely highest rates; highest suicidal rates; disease; stress etc. when compared to heterosexuals. For further details, please go to this website: http://www.awmi.net/extra/article/christian_philosophy2
Report Post »JoeKing
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 10:38pmI’ll take that as A. from all of you. You make me sick. Indoctrinated in? Really? So you can persuade someone to be gay? Why would anyone choose that lifestyle and be treated the way society treats them. How is sexual orientation a choice? So I guess if someone brainwashed you enough, you could become gay? You said it not me.
And you can’t tell me that homosexual molest kids more than other hetero foster families. That’s just bull.
Anyways, I say we round em all up and stone ‘em. Yeeeeeehaaaaa!
Report Post »welovetheUSA
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:04pmNo kidding………gays are Unstable, period……….doctors have proved this for hundreds of years…they are creepy.
Report Post »txdave22
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:16pmAlthough he is a devout Catholic, he is the author of the two most important pro-gay-rights decisions handed down by the court. In 1996, in a case called Romer v. Evans, Kennedy wrote an opinion ending Colorado’s attempt to repeal local laws protecting gays against discrimination. There was no plausible explanation for Colorado’s action, he wrote, beyond “animus” — judicial language for plain bigotry. In his 2003 majority opinion in Lawrence v. Texas, Kennedy and company threw out all remaining state laws against sodomy, saying that how consenting homosexuals express their love is none of the state’s business. (The verdict prompted Justice Antonin Scalia, in an indignant dissent, to warn that Kennedy’s argument “dismantles” any constitutional case against gay marriage.)
Now two lawsuits are inching toward the Supreme Court. The richer opportunity comes from California, where Proposition 8, banning gay marriage, has already been overturned by a three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.
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Also Congressman Polis and his husband (from Colorado) are worth about 100 million dollars, and no one that they are creepy. They have adopted a child.
Average income among gays and lesbians is much higher than US population. We, too, love the USA, but unlike the republican right wing, we believe in liberty and justice for all, as did the FOUNDERS OF OUR GREAT NATION.
Report Post »Helloagain
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 2:09pmDave: I am sick and tired of morons like you trying to frame all republicans as homophobes. As a republican with many republican friends, I can think of none of them that has any sort of problem with gays. It is the hatred of the vicious lefties like yourself that try to promote that false premise, as fomenting hate is all you’ve got, since logic eludes you. By your own admission, gays and lesbians make more than the general population tells me gays aren’t doing too badly in this mostly conservative world are they? Stop trying to create enemies of people YOU don’t like.
Report Post »DogTags
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:00pmWhy is a study considered “controversial”? Is it because its conclusions are offensive? Is it because someone dared ask the question of whether adopted children of same-sex couples do as well as children in stable marriages?
Even though the truth is staring them in the face “Regnerus is careful not to conclude that same-sex parenting accounts for the outcome differences.”
The Truth is that the best thing for children is for biological mother and biological father to love each other. Children aren’t necessarily doomed if subjected to divorce, cohabitation, same-sex relationships, “blended families” or other such less desirable situations. But, we should be honest that there is no equal substitute for biological mother and biological father loving each other and caring for their children.
Report Post »mtcountrygrl
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:16pmIntact, stable married (one man and one woman) families are the best for children. That is the case and will always be the case. We need to encourage this. Every study that has ever been done has shown this. They left out one of the largest statistics, prison time. Children from stable homes are WAY less likely to commit crimes.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:26pmAgreed.
These studies seem to take the basic fact – biological families are best – and ignore the reality while attempting to exalt the virtues of everything BUT a biological family. It’s like people are out there saying to themselves, “Yeah, but…”
But what? The facts are the facts. Stop trying to push your ideological nonsense on the rest of the country. Stop trying to generate excuses for people who screw up their lives and the lives of their children. Stop trying to make the rest of us feel bad for our GOOD CHOICES.
Report Post »mtcountrygrl
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:46pmI would like to see an additional study to expell another liberal myth (sparked by the feminist movement)…How much better children do in homes where a parent stays home. EVERY child I know who has a two parent (mom & dad) stable home and either mom or dad (usually mom) stayed home, has turned out well. Add in homeschooled or private schooled and wow, the success rate is through the roof. We need to return this country to the traditions that made us great and get away from the social experiments that are destroying us.
Report Post »Nancys Red Diaper Doper Babies
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 3:25pmPerhaps there‘s a reason homosexual couples can’t procreate. Or is that just a stage of evolution that man has yet to reach?
Report Post »Bolo2811
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:59pmAs i’ve said many times before, liberals are a contradiction unto themselves. Nothing will EVER make them touch base with reality. They’ve been chasing a socialist utopia for centuries and it is STILL yet to be found, just like their “missing link” and “homoexuals are born that way”…ad nauseum…..Liberalism is a mental disorder fueled by anger and disdain for the very way of life that has ALLOWED them the freedom to be mentally disabled. You will always hear the myth that “science has proven homosexuals are born that way”…..oh really? maybe in the Liberal of Oz but not in reality. You do NOT need to be an educated rocket scientist or a genetic/molecular biologist to KNOW that the ACT (for thats what it is) of homosexuality is neither “natural” nor “normal” and there is ZERO evidence to suggest otherwise.
Report Post »jessix
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:58pmNice attempt to appear unbiased, BUT …
Income: Until gay marriage is accepted, each and every gay couple will be minus $2,000 -$5,000/’year in average FEDERAL FINANCIAL BENEFlTS, available ONLY to heterosexual couples.
All the other differences result from the skewed comparison where finances CANNOT BE COMPARED EQUALLY. Homosexual families, all else being equal, are down by $2k-$5k per year between tax breaks and survivorship benefits NOT AVAILABLE to them until gays can legally marry. These benefits are part of the marriage contract and they were initiated to provide financial security to married couples.
PS … I believe it was MA where the first same sex marriages were allowed. This passed after hearings where gays in long term relationships explained to the court how their children were negatively affected by their inability to provide them the same financial benefits as straight married couples could provide.
SORRY GUYS – ONE MORE CASE OF APPLES AND ORANGES PRESENTED TO ILLUSTRATE AN INCORRECT HYPOTHESIS. Maybe these reaearchers should use the same data to show the differences in income and where these differences come from to present an excellent case to legalize same sex marriage?
MARRIAGE EQUALITY is necessary to provide financial security to ALL MARRIED COUPLES, not just the straight ones.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:03pm@JESSIX
Wrong.
The study did not look at the gay family, it looked at the adult children of the gay family.
Report Post »The laws you mention do not impact the adult children’s income.
Fubared
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:05pmSo you would need lots of data on turkey baster pregnancies, and maybe massage some more numbers here and there and make it all pc and forget about the kids, huh? All about the kids right? No need for special interest interest, just make up some crap, and well golly gee, as soon as we get prison numbers from the females we can assert out real percentages? Is the ocean level accounted for in regions where granola is a food group 3 times a day and do rainbow stickers on a smart car account negatively or what? So many special questions for the special groups. What is CAIR’s stance? That I will listen to. When CAIR has the Rainbow coalition under that big new happy huggy progressive tent, then, we will revisit the already massaged numbers. Cool?
Report Post »SuaSponte
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:14pmJessix marriage equality? Are you serious? Alright, let me explain this, so you and all the other weirdos understand. Marriage is a SACREMENT OF GOD! It is not intended for finabcial fain of sexual deviants. ROAST IN HELL!!!
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:22pmIncome: Until gay marriage is accepted, each and every gay couple will be minus $2,000 -$5,000/’year in average FEDERAL FINANCIAL BENEFlTS, available ONLY to heterosexual couples.
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Let‘s be generous and say you’re right and it’s $5K per year. You don’t know the reality of any of the homes in the study, so you have no clue how dire anyone’s situation is. What if every gay family in the study was knocking down over $100K? You think $5K a year is a deciding factor for them?
You’ve got no data, but you’re willing to jump to conclusions. That’s a very scientific approach.
Report Post »TexasGodGunClinger
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:29pmI’m curious, Jessix. You make the closing statement as follows: “MARRIAGE EQUALITY is necessary to provide financial security to ALL MARRIED COUPLES, not just the straight ones.” Are you willing to discriminate against marriages involving multiple people, parent/child, siblings, children, animals, insects, inanimate objects (idols), etc. This is where your thought process naturally leads, anything goes.
We, who would define marriage as between one man and one woman, oppose gay marriage on moral (Biblical) grounds. It is unhealthy for society and harms the children involved.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 2:08pmWrong, you get the exact same benefits if you file head of household.
Report Post »hi
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:54pmI’m surprised. I thought two working gay guys were the wealthiest families.
Children who are adopted have a right to a married mother and a father.
I realize the gays have a way around this and there is nothing you can do about it. But, only a married mother and father should be able to adopt.
Report Post »NJBarFly
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 2:47pmThere are many, many children in this world who are unwanted, unloved and/or living in horrible orphanages around the world. Wouldn’t they be better off in a loving home, even if the guardians are homosexual?
Report Post »charles116
Posted on June 12, 2012 at 4:03amYou forgot to factor in the 50% hetero divorce rate
Report Post »and that more single women are having babies.
That FAIRY TALE of the 2 parent married family
DOESN’T EVEN EXIST IN THE HETERO WORLD.
dadsrootbeer
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:53pmAnother major reason and support that marriage is a bond between a man and a woman.
Report Post »Melika
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:52pmWhat I find really interesting with this study are the large numbers of children from homosexual households who have been sexually touched by a parent or adult (23%), those who have been raped (31%), and those who self identify as bi-sexual or homosexual (39%). I can’t help but wonder if there really is a strong link between homosexual behavior and sexual abuse.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:08pmI found this very disturbing as well.
The common line is that there is no connection between gays and child abuse.
The study has no detail on this, but a common concern about gay relationships is that there is a revolving door, which would mean no biological connection between the visitors and the child and less feeling of obligation or protection of the child.
Report Post »olduffer
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:45pmThere are good reasons for the notion that people of the same sex should share a household, but pretending that those ideas extend to ‘marriage’ and a ‘family’ with children is self indulgent selfishness. What anyone does in their bedroom is no-one else’s business but please…the business of raising children is best left to a family unit with a mother and father. When we realize that emphasizing the ‘family’ as the basic and valuable cornerstone of a ‘society’ we will begin to heal as a nation.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:37pmSure, non-biological parents pose greater risks to children; why else the stereotype of the abusive stepfather or the wicked stepmother? No evidence is presented here that same-sex non-biological parents are any worse (or any better) than opposite-sex non-biological ones. Even if they are worse, are they SO MUCH worse as to make gay or lesbian adoption necessarily a bad idea, as opposed to single-parent, foster or institutional care?
Report Post »inblack
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:45pmYou are wrong.
The data does look at Intact Biological Family, Lesbian Mother, Step Family and Single Parent.
Report Post »On the listed areas, there are three tiers – Biological family is best, step and single parent are middle, lesbian mother is worst.
OneTermPresident
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:33pmDo us all a favor… stay away from OUR children.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:36pmChristians shoudl stay away from children all they do is teach them hate.
Of course the articel fails the mention that The Witherspoon Institute, a right wing foundation, that funds many anti-gay groups funded this study, so they go the results they paid for.
Report Post »Fubared
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:45pmEncinomom
Report Post »Also proper use of english, don’t forget that. And how to pay taxes for the other lazy ass 50% demanding new rights and entitlements every day ending in Y. Lest you forget and all. Wankers unite! How is OWS this week or was that just a passing fancy?
charles116
Posted on June 13, 2012 at 1:44amI’ve seen your children.
Report Post »That won’t be much of a problem.
Gonzo
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:28pmPlease Blaze, more gay stories! We’re not getting enough gay news!
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 2:51pmSeriously, and all this over a group that composes only approximately 1.5% of America.
Report Post »Hova
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 6:38pmBecause minorities are never important, ever.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 10:36pmHova – Being a minority group makes you noble or a victim entitled to government benefits.[/sarcasm]
Report Post »bankerpapaw
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:27pmIsn’t it a shame that these children have to suffer because homosexual people are trying so hard to make their
Report Post »relationship look NORMAL? God will not bless these families because homosexuality is an
abomination to Him.
encinom
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:41pmThe only children are suffering are the Christian ones taught to hate. This study is bogus, a right wing foundation bought and paid for the results they wanted. the fact that the research admits to using a same sample size and it flys in the face of every other study demonstrate how bogus this research is.
Report Post »Fubared
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:59pmEncinomom-
Report Post »Jesus doesn’t tell us to hate you, you get that all by your own work and endeavors-just being Encinomom. Kudos. How soon will the Rainbow CAIR coalition be in making commercials for the tele?
inblack
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:00pm@ENCINOM
The study is NOT bogus, it was an independent study by a university.
You seem to be harboring a fair amount of hatred yourself.
You obviously know nothing of the study, I suggest you at least read the overview at elsevier.
The study is different in that rather than asking the parents to assess the impact, it asks the adult children of the couple. This is a more objective method.
While it is not conclusive, it does raise some real concerns about the long term impacts.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 3:02pm@Inblack
The study was funded by The Witherspoon Institute, a major donor to many anti-gay groups. The extremely small sample size ensured the Foundation got the study they paid for.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 5:38pm@ENCINOM
Wow – you are wrong again.
Professor Mark Regnerus used data from the New Family Structures Study (NFSS), a large nationally representative sample of just under 3,000 young Americans aged 18 to 39, to compare how children raised in eight different family structures fared on 40 social, emotional, and relationship outcomes.
“This study, [is] based on a rare large probability sample.”
Previous studies were based on sample sizes of 30, 66, 74, etc. Also previous studies asked the parents of the children for their opinion of the child’s growth and development. Obviously asking the adult child themselves is more accurate.
Report Post »Hova
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 6:39pmHey, InBlack. Here’s a quote from the study.
“The available data, which are drawn primarily from small convenience samples, are insufficient to support a strong generalizable claim either way. Such a statement would not be grounded in science. To make a generalizable claim, representative, large-sample studies are needed—many of them.”
Report Post »inblack
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 7:40pm@HOVA
Nice Try.
Remember those reading comprehension tests that your school teacher forged for you in Atlanta. Well they were intended to tell you to pay attention to the subject and object of all those little sentences.
See, what you quoted was the critique of the EARLIER (APA) studies.
“The review by Dr. Loren Marks from Louisiana State University finds that much of the science that forms the basis for the highly regarded 2005 official brief on same-sex parenting by the American Psychological Association (APA) does not stand up to scrutiny. ”
Dr. Marks reviewed studies published between 1980 and 2005 cited by the 2005 official APA brief which asserted that: “Not a single study has found children of lesbian or gay parents to be disadvantaged in any significant respect relative to children of heterosexual parents.”
“The jury is still out on whether being raised by same-sex parents disadvantages children”, explains Marks. “However, the available data on which the APA draws its conclusions, derived primarily from small convenience samples, are insufficient to support a strong generalized claim either way.”
Report Post »inblack
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 7:44pm@HOVA
The study that we adults were talking about was the NEW study.
“The new study by University of Texas sociologist and professor Mark Regnerus, provides compelling new evidence that numerous differences in social and emotional well-being do exist between young adults raised by women who have had a lesbian relationship and those who have grown up in a nuclear family. ”
“In his study, Professor Mark Regnerus used data from the New Family Structures Study (NFSS), a large nationally representative sample of just under 3,000 young Americans aged 18 to 39…”
Report Post »Hova
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 7:53pmFinally! Someone who has read the study! Great! Now, can you please show me the part of the study that concludes that the reason for these lower incomes and psychological scores is because the parents were homosexual?
Report Post »inblack
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 8:21pm@HOVA
“Now, can you please show me the part of the study that concludes that the reason for these lower incomes and psychological scores is because the parents were homosexual?”
No.
This study only shows a significant correlation, not conclusive causation.
It provides evidence that a correlation exists, but goes no further into understanding why.
Report Post »Hova
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 8:29pmGreat! Then there is no reason for anyone to take this study as a front against families with homosexual parents! That’s great news! Thanks!
Report Post »charles116
Posted on June 13, 2012 at 1:44amWhat does god have to do with this?
Report Post »Is this some kind of religious zealots site?
AmericanStrega
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:27pmMy opinion:
Report Post »Children brought up in a home where there are two “parents” of the female sex may be taught a more “victim” mentality than a two “parent” home of male sex partners. My reasons? It seems that lesbians are more apt to have a victim mentality than their counter-parts. Why? I’m not sure. Maybe it’s because the majority of lesbians (in my opinion) are angry towards men and that‘s why they’re lesbians. Where their couinter-parts (gay men) are not angry towards women, they’re just not sure of their sexual identies. Honestly, my opinion again, I think two gay men would be better “parents” for a child then two angry lesbians. (BTW, I am a hetro-sexual female who believes two consenting adult having sex is no one’s business. But to raise a child in an angry environment is not conducive to a good upbringing).
girlnurse
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 2:16pmYea but how are two queers gonna teach a boy to be a man??? They will squeal like a lil girl if they see a mouse and the boy wont have any good role models to learn to be a manly man. Boys are already being persecuted for their testosterone and the global elites are trying to feminize everyone.
How would lesbians teach a girl to be feminine? I guess they could teach her to change the oil in the car and hang keys from her work belt….sigh
King David was a man after Gods own heart. He made many mistakes in life but he repented and trusted God. He danced and played harp–yet he slew Goliath…
Report Post »Hova
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 7:02pmWell, at least it’s a better household than yours, considering all that rampant incest you practice, not to mention the cocaine use…. Oh? You don‘t like me making up traits that don’t represent you? Too bad, you’re just fine with it.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 10:29pmHova – That kid would be better off in a crack house than with a bunch of whack jobs like you.
Report Post »Maxim Crux
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:24pm…and are more psychologically effed up than other kids
Report Post »Jas0n
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:23pmNo point just a comment. There is a boy being raised by two gay men in my neighborhood that none of the other kids will play with. When asked why the answer is usually, “He’s weird.” He may be weird regardless of who his parents are as there are plenty of weird kids from oppositte sex couples too.
Report Post »bankerpapaw
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:21pmIsn’t it a crying shame that these children suffer because of their queer parents? God will not
Report Post »bless that “family” because homosexuality is an abomination to Him.
minni
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 9:00pmA female leaves the husband for a lesbian n takes her dau.age 9, now dau. is 16 and said to her mother when she complain about her Father that is now seeing his first teenage love again, that she did not like for him to see his ex cause that was his first sweetheart. The dau. told her lesbian mother, get over it, you had your chance and you blew it, this is the lifestyle you wanted so stick to it. Later she tells her grandma, when I am 18 I will go to live with my dad, What is she teaching me? She then said I cannot stand her lifestyle. This says it all. At age 16 she finally said what she wanted to say all along.
Report Post »biffo
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:21pmA real adult, professional study has surfaced to show the fact that homosexual lifestyles are destructive to children. The other studies having been done by the commie liars of the climate change type and are used to further an agenda, rather than present factual analysis. The homosexual lifestlye is destructive start to finish.
Report Post »In 2010, in the 46 states with long-term confidential, name-based reporting, man on man sex accounted for 78% of estimated HIV diagnoses among all males aged 13 years and older, and 61% of estimated diagnoses among all persons receiving an HIV diagnosis that year.
You are sending your children to government education that is run by the same radical homosexuals who provide those deadly life ending facts. They promote this deadly, disease ridden lifestyle to your children as a wonderful, free choice. Ask the parents of the 13yo HIV infected children what they think of these ‘educators’.
damnedifwedont
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 1:18pmNo surprises here. It’s just common sense,something it short supply in America for sveral years.
Report Post »Hova
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 7:41pmtswi
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:21pmhere we go…
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:20pmHow about the next step in our social engineering experiment, do a study on the kids in a polygamist relationship, a beastiality relationship, and a gender swapping relationship. They can do it all on one family, Obama’s.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:26pmIt’s coming.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:17pmNormal children should not be placed into abnormal homes. It’s a life sentence.
Report Post »nappy
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:16pmdoesn’t surprise me at all. Most gay parents adopt kids to make themselves feel better or to prove a point. The actual lives of the kids aren’t a concern.
Report Post »ThankYouFounders
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:23pmI agree. They adopt kids for the same reason the aging hippie buys a Prius – it’s a status symbol within their community.
Report Post »AmericanStrega
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:34pmI agree with you NAPPY. I think it’s sad that hetro-sexual couples who cannot have children are not first in line for adoption. Although, I guess a gay couple can always get David Crosby to donate sperm for their want. Hmmm, wonder if Octo-Mom will donate the egg? Geez, I just made myself sick thinking about that. Sorry.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on June 11, 2012 at 12:14pmWell, and no s***! Come on folks. You live with satan as ruler of your life and expect good, wholesome results? Not going to happen. Check out the rulers of darkness of this current age. They are as vacuous as bubble wrap and one of these days, one of these days….
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