Study: Obama Losing Voters More Than Republicans
- Posted on August 6, 2012 at 8:58pm by
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In 2008, Barack Obama persuaded liberals, independents, and even some conservatives to come to his side. His winning coalition cut across all demographic lines and spoke of a realignment of the country’s voters. Liberal pundits celebrated and proclaimed the beginning of a new liberal era built on this seemingly unbreakable new coalition.
Four years later, that coalition is already chipped, and disintegrating quickly. Yahoo News reports:
A survey of registered voters conducted July 23-29 found that 92 percent of Americans who voted for McCain in 2008 plan to vote for Romney this fall and just 5 percent have switched sides to support Obama. But among Obama’s 2008 supporters, just 86 percent are planning to do so again and 9 percent are switching their support to Romney.
Overall 11 percent of voters who say they cast ballots for Obama or McCain are supporting the other party’s candidate.
To some extent, this is to be expected. Obama had a tenuous coalition in the first place. The big question, however, is whether this enthusiasm gap will be enough to make a different in the outcome.



















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ktmrider1
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:50pmoh wow look a big turd in front of the teleprompters
Report Post »db321
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:45pmCheck your voter registration Card – if your not registered and your State requires registration – sit down and shut up. This is the most important election in our life time. We have one more shot at saving America.
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:53pmCorrect, db321. Ron Paul 2012! But if the LEFTIST gop CHEAT-nominates LEFTIST Romney… Obama gets reelected. Just like they CHEAT-nominated McCain in 08, to ELECT Obama.
WE MUST NOT LET THE GOP REELECT OBAMA!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Honestybefore truth
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:42amThe ONLY thing scarier than Ron Paul is his diehard supporters. Be careful not to let one bite you, it could result in a nasty case of Paulitis, a brain numbing disease that presents with dis-associative behavior and foaming of the mouth. (something akin to Progressivitis which so many of the OWS crowd has contracted)
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:03amOoooopsy, Honestybefore truth. The limp Alinskyite insults roll off, but I can’t let the lies pass.
“something akin to Progressivitis which so many of the OWS”
Report Post »Actually most OWSers are Central Government Planners who HATE the Constitution and Bill of Rights. This worldview is IDENTICAL to Romney and Obama, and is the OPPOSITE of Ron Paul supporters.
mharry860
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:11amBrother Winston Smith, I don’t know what your smoking, but I’m sure Romney is already the nominee.
Report Post »desertspeaks
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:19amWhy is there a nation wide delusion still being foisted on an uneducated public? National election for president? The electoral college chooses the president and the electoral college consists of 538 people and it takes 270 of those people to choose the president!!
Report Post »That’s it! The so called national election for president is a massive waste of time, money and effort!
The national presidential election is an ILLUSION, it’s a feel good participation trophy moment, voters don’t choose the president! EVERYONE in politics knows this. We see these polls, they are just so much drivel and it sickens me that the media perpetuates this FRAUD!
West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:56amDesertSpeaks, The media is part of it. Why do you think they all; Fox, CNN, NBC, CBS and ABC can all project the winner, right after the polls close with less than 1% of the vote, based on the same poll, from the same company, for every MSM station? This has been happening for quite some time and it is impossible! They can even give you the run down on the different factions and ethnicity difference in the vote!! The vote is rigged and that is how Romney is the presumptive nominee even though he leans so far left he is about to fall over!!. The caucuses and state conventions were harder to do this, so the RNC and Romney campaign violated federal law and party rules to keep Paul from delegate seats. Shameful. The most shameful thing is, all you Republicans are either blind or you believe criminal activity in your party is honorable. What is it? How can any of you sleep at night, knowing that you condone criminal activity, especially when it is your children and grandchildren that will suffer from it? I will never understand the lack of spine the Republican Party has in this day and age. It sickens me.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 3:43amYes, I do suppose there are not many AMERICANS, especially those of us who dove under our desks for fear of the COMMIES or REDS taking over, who are very pleased with this Thoughtless, Arrogant, Insensitive LIAR in CHIEF. I mean, What did he say in his First Campaign that was true. He’s NEVER
Report Post »been the PRESIDENT of ALL AMERICANS…in fact, whatever he said, he not only did the OPPOSITE but the EXTREME, and I do mean EXTREME, opposite. He had no respect for us, he called us clingers to our Bible and our Guns (right) but like it was a bad thing. YOU KNOW WHY WE HAVE the 2nd AMENDMENT? Not so we can go ‘a-hunting’ but so no Army, FOREIGN or DOMESTIC can push us around. IF we aren’t armed then they can. No one likes to admit that, but it’s time we did. Because an ARMED COP was on the scene quickly those innocent people were spared more deaths.
HERE’S WHAT WE ALL NEED TO SAY: ONLY COWARDS would shoot an unarmed person or child or woman or group of people. You don’t get fame, you get disgust for eternity. IF you want to go out as a COWARD, a gutless, spineless, COWARD then there is nothing we can do. LIFE is NOT perfect, and if it doesn’t suit you, YOU need to figure out why. AND you need to start with YOU.
Obama will be getting a more clear picture and then he’ll have about 50 years to live with how much he blew….he’ll never get it back. We are going to make sure of that. MAKE SURE YOU ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE and get 2 more people each! GBAMERICA!
dogday
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:58am@ Patty Henry: I would love to believe you are raving lunatic,a conspiracy nut job, fear monger…but sadly, I agree with you. You are so on the mark with your posts. We are at a “tipping point” and it‘s coming in November and it’s frightening how so many people can be so ignorant about the blatant truths going on around them. For all of you voting for Paul, it’s a wasted vote and you might as well vote for Obama. Romney may not be perfect, but I don’t believe for a second that he wants to destroy this country.
Report Post »spikebu
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 5:49amIf you believe any study or poll, you’re twisted. All media studies are controlled (surprise!) by the media. Perhaps we should check our own selves. They use their “data” from their “polls” to direct our behavior. Are we that malleable? I’m not. I will not be molded into a racist. Not going to happen. I will not accept any label they would ascribe to me, unless it’s Freedom Fighter. Not going to happen, either. I don‘t think FREEDOM is in the left’s lexicon.
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 8:50amArpaio Investigation Closes in on Obama Birth Certificate Fraud.
Report Post »https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PseFF1_bzM&feature=player_embedded
loriann12
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:16amOh, 5% will vote for Obama instead (from those who voted for McCain)? That must be how many Ron Paul supporters there are.
Report Post »cbrown
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:26am@loriann12
Ron Paul voters will not be voting. The 5% are folks like me. We are fiscally conservative folks who were not sure if Obama can lead the nation thru the crisis. Now we feel better of him. He played the hand that was dealt to him well. He is more moderate than we expected and looking forward to 4 more years of Obama.
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:12am@DesertSpeaks and those that like to quote all the conspiracy nutjobs and say how the GOP and the MSM are in on fixing the election for whom they like…I would expect a Ron Paul toadmonkey to actually practice what they preach about the Constitution.. which set up the Electoral College system…
The Electoral College system was a device created by the Founders and set down in the Constitution to AVOID the Democratic MOB mentality that our Founders HATED!! and DESPISED as the DOWNFALL of self governance of Man into tyranny and oppression….They KNEW that if left to the every changing opinion and will of the masses, the President could EASILY become a monarch or dictator with unlimited power….They also KNEW that different nation States would have different goals and those States’ citizens would have different priorities. The Electoral College system was a way to allow the people of each State to have their say.
A simple majority vote for President is absolutely INSANE AND STUPID!! Those that condemn the Electoral College system are ANTI-CONSTITUTION IDIOTS! If all you needed was simple majority, a President today would only have to campaign on the West and Northeast coastlines and winning would be guaranteed. Giving each State an apportioned number of Electoral votes based on population STOPS the domination of the Presidency by the more populus States and GIVES ALL States and People a say… YOU DOLTS!!!
Report Post »Tankertony
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:17amThe brother speaks! and ron pauls supporters drop from 112 to 89.
Report Post »michael48
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:23ambrown…mindless rant…but makng excellant progress to meaningless..but nice try comrade…
Report Post »mtcountrygrl
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:52am@CBrown
Report Post »Fiscally Conservative and voting for Obama! LOL Thanks I needed a laugh this morning. That may be the funiest comment I have read on here. I don’t think you know what Fiscally Conservative means.
mtcountrygrl
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:57amPersonally I think Obama will lose big. His voters are not energized. Anti-Obama voters are counting the days. And personally I think the best indicator of how an election will go is fundraising. The whole “put your money where your mouth is”. Romney continues to out fundraise Obama. If it weren’t for his big Hollywood fundraisers, he wouldn’t be raising ANY money. People are alot less likely to donate money than vote. If they are energized enough to open their wallets, then you can count on them voting! Just my observation. Takes more effort to write a check than to answer a phone poll.
Report Post »mtcountrygrl
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:02pmPersonal note, I live in a VERY LIBERAL College town and I have not seen but two Obama 2012 bumper stickers or yard signs. In 2008, they were everywhere. I actually see more Romney support than Obama support. But what you see the MOST of is anti-Obama bumper stickers. Just like donating money, you have to be way more motivated to go get a yard sign or bumper sticker. I have mine…”Obamacare…If you are FOR IT, you haven’t READ IT”. and “Smallbuisness Owner…And Obama, I DID BUILD IT Myself”.
Report Post »cbrown
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:07pm@mtcountrygrl
Obama is a center left candidate. Let us see Obama’s record. The effective tax rate today is the lowest for past 50 years. Lowest federal spending growth in decades. I can go on if you are interested.
Report Post »cbrown
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:10pm@michael
Be a bit original for a change. Your attacks are have been so shriekingly shrill :)
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 5:13pm@desertspeaks
You are either ignorant, or intentionally dishonest. I know most people don’t understand the electoral college, but you should educate yourself.
Report Post »mtcountrygrl
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 5:54pm@CBrown
Report Post »Dude you need to stop getting your information from Obama.com. Obama is the farthest left president this country has ever seen. And federal spending under Obama has gone from 20% of GDP to 25% of GDP. And the reason the debt has exploded is because tax revenues have gone from 18% of GDP to 15% of GDP – due to the high unemployment and under-employment rate (which undoctored is close to 18%) And Obamacare hasn’t even kicked in yet. Keep drinking the koolaid bro.
Dorugremon
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 5:59pmHonestybefore truth:
“The ONLY thing scarier than Ron Paul is his diehard supporters”.
I suppose you could say I’m one of those “diehard” Ron Paul supporters. We’re making progress, too slowly to suit me, but we are making progress.
“Be careful not to let one bite you, it could result in a nasty case of Paulitis, a brain numbing disease that presents with dis-associative behavior and foaming of the mouth (something akin to Progressivitis which so many of the OWS crowd has contracted)”.
You are wrong about that. Not “Progressivitis”, but the mirror image of “Obamaitis”. All too many Paul supporters are the mirror image of unthinking O-bots who believe their guy can accomplish miracles and fix everything overnight. I’ve always said that electing Ron Paul would not be the end, but the beginning. Ron Paul is a man, a politician, better than the rest, but one thing he’s not is a miracle worker.
Someday we just might elect, if not Paul, someone who shares his philosophy. In the mean time, we need to buy time, and that means Romney for now. That means a lot of unglamorous grunt work at the precinct level.
We can get some of what we’d like from Romney; we get *nothing* from Obama, and after another four years, when all bets are off since O knows there won’t be a third term, I can’t say there will be anything left *to* save.
Report Post »cbrown
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 6:33pm@mtcountrygrl
You have facts and both of them are right. Looks like we both get our facts from reputed org like WSJ. Yes the GDP is low, hence the % of spending to GDP will be high even if the spending growth is low. Do the math.
The GDP is low because the investment in illiquid asset is at a historical low. Builders are not bldg b/c demand is low. This happens after a major financial crisis. It will be a couple of years before we see a major uptick on this.
It is a demand problem but we are working our way out of it. There is really not much the federal government can do about this (cleanse the system out of its excess). They can do some short term stimulus but it only slows the cleansing process.
Report Post »RWCT
Posted on August 8, 2012 at 8:14amNo need to worry if a Barry supporter. He has after all, given himself Executive authority, to call out the troops, in the event of what HE defines as a national emergency. Him losing the vote, I am sure would quakify as such!
Report Post »jon010665
Posted on August 8, 2012 at 8:49amPresident Mr. Hankey—- “Hooowdy Hooo boys and girls- you didn’t do that, someone else made that happen.”
Report Post »Abraham Young
Posted on August 8, 2012 at 10:28amNEOCONS
there is no difference between Obama and Romney. Y’all are being herded like sheep. Republicans good, Democrats bad. Go read Animal Farm.
I’m voting on principle, not on party. GWB was the last neocon I will ever have voted for. I don’t need another GWB on my conscience.
Report Post »shiton
Posted on August 8, 2012 at 11:44ambehind the tele,,, idiots in front
Report Post »6thdegreeblack
Posted on August 8, 2012 at 2:23pmVRW you are correct. I as yourself do get frustrated by the numerous nonsensical comments on this site regarding framework decisions made by our nations founders. Yet history as said by Livy and forward, continues to repeat itself at an increasing cycle rate facilitated by ever advancing technology and information exchange. The only static component I see is the instinctive human ego self absorbed in our delusional vanity. Time and again when we push out belief in a theologic based morality and insist it is us that reigns supreme, despotism ensues as we jockey for that vacant “Chair.”
Keep your powder dry my friend.
BUCK OFAMA
Report Post »DEEP BOW (eyes up)
ktmrider1
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:48pmoh wow look theres a big turd in front of the telepromters
Report Post »plastinoid
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:48pmMaybe all of us Conservatives should focus on getting like minded Conservatives into the House and Senate first, and then worry about who we put in as president. Michigan holds it’s republican Senate primary August 7th, 2012. The Conservative candidate is Clark Durant. All Michigan republicans need to get out and vote. The presidential election is important, but let’s not forget to put the Conservatives in the Senate as well. Otherwise it will not matter.
Report Post »bm1967
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:09pmYou are mistaken. Although your heart is in the right place, this is not the time to let Obama win the second term. Have you forgotten that it is the president who nominates new appointees to the Supreme Court? Also, how is the current gridlock working out for you? Obama simply bypasses Congress by issuing executive orders and through his czars. Wake up and smell deceit! Senate and the House are important but it it IMPERATIVE that Obama is booted out of the office this November. It is the president who sets the tone, remember that.
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:23amBM…You got it right!
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:20amYou think Romney will use the power of his pen wisely? You are living in darkness. Ron Paul is the candidate that if he was elected POTUS, would only use his pen once, to wipe out all executive orders ever signed as he knows it is unconstitutional. But you guys care not, you will give a progressive, just because he has an “R” in front of his name, the chance to mess us up even more with his penmanship. If you continue to do what you have always done, you will continue to get what you have always got. Listen to a real syndicated conservative radio talk show host:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gck0A41e-A&feature=youtu.be
I doubt if many on here have the fortitude to listen to it in its entirety, as many on here cannot handle the truth.
Nevada just finished getting the signatures needed to nominate Ron Paul at the convention, giving him the plurality of delegates there, the RNC, in all its wisdom, is shunning Ron Paul by not giving him a speaking slot at the convention, because Romney would look like the leftist he is. Bad mistake. All of you keep telling us that a vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for Obama, but the RNC has pushed us to a point where we could not vote for Romney, even if we were considering it. It is now an act of war. Romney will not win, we will not let him.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 3:48amGOOD GRIEF!!! IF Obama got anything near a second term we would be totally enslaved immediately!
Report Post »HE wants to be DICTATOR OF THE WORLD. I don’t know who gave him this illusion (I can guess) but
without having to face another election and with all the $$$ and the armed forces at his disposal, this man who has already torn this country’s finances to shreds and our way of life with it… this man (demon) would make sure he never had to face election again. I AM BLOODY WELL NOT going to stay quiet while some people think…oh, well…what does it matter? WAKE UP!!! What part of “OBAMA has told us he is going to transform this country, and by damn, he has” don’t you get????!!!
justangry
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:29am@Patti, The problem is the GOP handed him the legislation that makes Obama a dictator. I mean you keep acting like it’s all the Dems, but Congress could have defunded his ability to dictate since 2010 and the GOP candidate supports all the all the tyranical legislation Obama signed into law. Hell, they could defund Obama care, the DHS, TSA, his drones, civilian army, everything. Niether side of the isle is interested in freedom. You‘re insane if you believe the GOP wants to free us from Obama’s shackles. They merely want their turn at being dictator.
Report Post »capecoralM
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:08amJUST ANGRY – FYI FEB 2011 The Republican-led House voted to defund President Obama’s health care overhaul on Friday during a sustained burst of floor activity, but with the White House and Senate Democrats vowing to block much of that activity, the government remains on a path to a shutdown if lawmakers can’t reach a spending bill compromise in the coming weeks.
The House passed 239-187
July 24 2012 – House has voted now 33 times to defund, to repeal and change Obamacare. Obama said he will veto any bill. Harry Reid said any Bill passed in the House is doa in the Senate and will not bring ANY Bill from the House up for debate or for any vote in the Senate.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:25am@Cape, Yeah they’re playing games for sure. I lost track of an article I read yesterday that said Beohner would most likely not pull the trigger on shutting down funding that wouldn‘t need Senate or President’s approval. Perhaps flooring the legislation or something. All funding for everything the Federal Government does has to originate from Congress. They’ve already funded a lot of big brother for the year. I’ll try to rack my brain and find that article again, but I’m reading WAY too much stuff these days. I do believe the Congress could be a lot more obstructionist regarding our liberties if they really desired to be and they‘re not suggesting they’re really not opposed to the loss of our liberties.
Report Post »fishmon
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:37pmRemember the chatter in 2010? Conservatives screaming to show those rinos we mean business? Third party. Third party. Thank goodness cooler heads prevailed. Cooler heads realized then what we are beginning to see shaping up now. It’s unrealistic to expect we can undo the damage of liberal establishment republicans in one election cycle. Haste makes waste. Once we splinter into different parties we hand victories to to left. Does this practice sound appealing? We will have squandered our chances at real change but at the same time can say yeah but we sure showed those rinos. Is this what we will tell our grandkids? Yes I helped to end the greastest Republic the world has ever known but we sure showed those rinos. Look around. Our principles are steadily and surely taking root. Now is not the time for protest votes. The political wind has changed and I pray will continue to gather momentum but protest votes will present an additional burden that could dampen the hopes of ever getting our country back. Even after Romney is elected it’s not game, set, match. This movement is way way bigger than one or two elections. “Keep your hand upon the throttle and your eye upon the rail.” Our kids or grandkids may even have to finish the job but we will have left them in a better position than our protest votes would.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:49pmIncrimentalism – not going to cut it. Nor do we have the luxury of 30 years to do this
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:50pm@fishmon
“Remember the chatter in 2010?”
Yes, I remember PLEADING AND BEGGING people to vote Constitution Party and Libertarian party. Too bad COWARDS prevailed and we got FAKE-TEA GOPers like West, Bachmann and Rubio, who’ve SHREDDED THE CONSTITUTION. “Patriot” Act, nation-building, food police, DREAM AMNESTY, debt ceiling hikes, NDAA, SPENDING, SPENDING, SPENDING!!!!!!
“undo the damage of liberal establishment republicans in one election cycle.”
INCORRECT. Ron Paul can reverse a lot of it.
“Once we splinter into different parties we hand victories to to left.”
Correct. We MUST nominate Ron Paul, so as NOT to splinter!
“Our principles are steadily and surely taking root.”
Correct. Your FAKE-conservative LEFTIST principles took root long ago and are currently CHOKING the garden.
“Now is not the time for protest votes.”
I agree. While we have Ron Paul as a possible nominee, WE MUST FIGHT FOR HIM.
“Keep your hand upon the throttle and your eye upon the rail.”
Report Post »Good advice. RON PAUL 2012! TAMPA! NO EXCUSES
mharry860
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:14amBrother Winston Smith, wow are you a douche. I love Ron Paul, but he is unelectable for President, put the weed away.
Report Post »Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:41amBrother Winston….I feel you…but here is the problem….WE killed Paul’s chances. We as in we supporters. I am a Paul supporter, because I know Paul stood for something bigger than than the image cast on him by his supporters. There have been quite a few Paul supporters that i have just wanted to punch in the face, and say….we can’t win like that…..Sure we all claimed constitution this and constitution that, but most of our attitudes only reflected that we wanted to smoke pot and buy hookers, and oh yeah constitution and **** YOU!!…….Please there can not be Liberty with irrational people.
Report Post »flipper1073
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:46pmCome-on Guys
Report Post »If Obama Wins His Name will be the ONLY
Name on the Ballot in 2016 !
Obama Wins ReEllection with 99% of the Vote.
The 1% will be Shot as They leave the Polling Place.
(Hugo Chavez , Saddam Hussein)
Formula382
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:26pmNearly everyone I now that voted for Obnoxious is going to vote for Romney now. Several won’t admit they voted for “O” because they feel like idiots, as they should… That said, my not so bright friends that actually admit to voting for the teleprompter and chief are undoubtly voting for Romney..
Problem is this… the entitlement class has exploded in size and hence O-r.e.t.a.r.d. is gaining market share via the parasitic community that feeds on the poductive hosts.
Gonna be close but if we lose this to the annointeed one, we’re all f-d..conservatives and lib tards alike!
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:50pmThats if we have an election at all!
Report Post »richardlionheart
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:00pmHey 382
Report Post »let us not forget … The entitlement class, are by the most part LAZY and think they got theirs and don’t need to do anything else.
Gonzo
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:40amI would like to know what the 5% that voted for McCain who are now voting for Obama are thinking. I don’t buy that statistic at all.
Report Post »Elizabeth FIsher
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:34amI also thought that was odd. If they voted for McCain in 2008 and plan to vote for Obammy in 2012, they never were “conservatives” or patriots.
Report Post »OHN
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:22pmPlease GOD anyone but obama. PLEASE GOD ANYONE BUT OBAMA.
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:35pmRon Paul is our only chance. If the LEFTIST gop CHEAT-nominates LEFTIST Romney… your “fear” will be guaranteed.
Report Post »muzikant
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:25am@ BROTHER WINSTON SMITH
Man, I cant stand hard-core libertarians like you!
Report Post »Its not Ron Paul who is the problem.
Its the fringe element of supporters like you that disenfranchise people to vote for him in the primary.
I voted for him in the primary, but if he were to be a little younger and was more like Rand Paul, he would probably do much better in the primary.
But, he don’t stand a chance. forget it already!
It’s people like you that make Ron Paul look bad.
mharry860
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:16ammuzikant, I‘m starting to think he’s not. Probably an Obama plant causing trouble for the GOP, that’s the only hope they have is to divide the vote.
Report Post »AnAmericanToo
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:15amHa, ha….love your pleas……
Report Post »IhaveOneToo
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:20pmForget all that nonsense. Maybe a good proof reader is what The Blaze needs
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:13pmHmmm…
Where’s republican candidate Ron Paul?
Where’s Constitution Party Candidate Virgil Goode?
Where’s Libertarian Candidate Gary Johnson?
Seems a pretty damn cooked “study.” …but ain’t they all…
Report Post »SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:19pmOh look it’s Ron Pauls diaper boy !
Report Post »SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:48pmsudo apt-get remove Brother Winston Smith
Report Post »exit
reboot
SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:50pmsudo apt-get install troll be-gone
Report Post »KC1
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:55pmTake note of ScrewWindows comments. I thought it was the Paul supporters who were supposed to be ridiculous and mean spirited?
Report Post »To play the same card the other way, I will never support Romney because of his supporters attitude towards Paul.
SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:04pm@ KC1
Report Post »Can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen
SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:09pmYou Paul bots are like a broken a record repeating the same drivel over and over.
Report Post »Get over it and move on.
RMAC22
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:12pmOH BOY!!!! More Hate from the FAKE Brother …It’s Sister Winston … Time to get a new Foil Hat… … The one you’re wearing is all worn out !!!!! It’s more like a screen hat !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »KC1
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:27pm@ScrewWindows,
Report Post »Im not telling you to turn down the “heat”. You make every one in the “kitchen” second guess themselves on the Romney side, with your six year old insults and bumper sticker rhetoric I bet you have converted more RINOs to the Liberty movement than any Paul advocate.
With your idiotic attitude and loud nonsensical mouth you have planted doubt in many a RINOs minds if they stand with you against Paul. By all means keep it up! In fact, turn up the foolish HEAT!
rcguy
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:12amBrother Winston = Van Jones
Report Post »sbenard
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:16amSALVATION IS ONLY IN PROPHET PAUL! JOIN THE CHURCH OF CONSTITUTIONAL CORRECTNESS OR BE DESTROYED!
Prepare for the Constitutional Mother Ship to rejoin the Founders there!
Freedom is only in Ron Paul! Constitution is only in Ron Paul! The Founders are channeled ONLY by Ron Paul!
Therefore, resistance is futile: JOIN THE CHURCH OF RON PAUL OR WE WILL DESTROY THE COUNTRY TO TEACH YOU A LESSON!
Show your allegiance by joining in the chant: “Pro-phet Paul! Pro-phet Paul! Pro-phet Paul!”
You may bow down and worship Prophet Paul now! Prophet Paul is salvation!
The more I read of Ron Paul followers, the more convinced I become that they are a CULT, not a candidacy!
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:29amYou Paul bashers are the ones who are the first to tell everyone how rude Paul supporters are, how vile, how immature, but all of you, every one of you are the first to call names like children, and the funny thing is, you think you are being smart. This study is bias, it has no bearing. You guys never put up any proof whatsoever that you are right when you say that Romney will win. The polls do not show it:
Report Post »http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
And this is a conservative polling site! Even Fox News and Rasmussen are showing Obama ahead, in fact, at this point last election, the polls were better for McCain. Look at the chart in the middle of the page, scroll down, you will see that Obama is heading up and Romney is heading down, with only three months left. This should be a wake up call for the intelligent voter. ????
West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:42amSBenard, You just do not get it do you? Ron Paul is not the savior, Christ is. Ron Paul is not the only one to help our country, there are many needed at all levels of our government. You fall into the media trap as that is the only place you get your news from. Ron Paul is a catalyst for a much deeper movement than just him as POTUS. He is a catalyst for a grassroots movement to put our country back to our roots and Constitutional principles.
“An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government.” – Ron Paul
You see, if Paul is not able to win, because of criminal activity by the RNC and Romney, there will come another, and another, and another. The Liberty movement has taken many chairs in the GOP state parties and we are not done yet. You can call us anything you want, we will not be deterred, we will not waiver, we will not quit. The time of establishment GOP leadership is on the verge of its demise. Those that condone the criminal acts of the RNC and Romney’s campaign are no better than the liberals they espouse to despise. We will prevail in the end, you will fall into disgrace.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:34pmBy the way, Obama’s polling goes up by +.1 today: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Wake up to reality.
Report Post »jrconte
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 6:35pmwest coast – that composit poll is meaning-less. it is a composite of all the polls of likley voters, and registered voters, over-sampling of democrats as well.
Report Post »conserve48
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:00pmThe reason is he is on TV every stinkin day. Today his staff said he is taking time off before a campaign tour. He was back on TV today. In his whole ‘stint’ as prez has he ever gone more than 1 day without mugging for the camera? Narrcisstic smug arrogant pretty boy..
Report Post »QuincySmith
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:12pmPretty?
Report Post »restoretheusa
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:58pmThis man is a communist. Rich, poor, black or white, we should be concerned about another 4 years. There will be no turning back with another 4 years. He is no good for any of us and I wish everyone would understand that.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:05pmThe problem is the guy running against him is a fascist. Progressives really have a stranglehold on the country.
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:07pmYup, restoretheusa. I TOTALLY AGREE. We have three choices two COLLECTIVISTS (unconstitutional) and one INDIVIDUALIST (constitutional):
Barack Obama – Dream Amnesty
Mitt Romney – Dream Amnesty
Ron Paul – NO DREAM AMNESTY
Barack Obama – Executive ordered sodomite/lesbian marriage
Mitt Romney – Executive ordered sodomite/lesbian marriage
Ron Paul – Get government OUT of marriage
Barack Obama – TARP (that ignited the Tea Party)
Mitt Romney – TARP (that ignited the Tea Party)
Ron Paul – Warned and warned and warned and warned AGAINST TARP
Barack Obama – Signed NDAA
Mitt Romney – Would sign NDAA
Ron Paul – REPEAL NDAA
Barack Obama – PRIVATE Federal Reserve
Mitt Romney – PRIVATE Federal Reserve
Ron Paul – END THE FED.
Barack Obama – Isolationist foreign policy of welfare/warfare
Mitt Romney – Isolationist foreign policy of welfare/warfare
Ron Paul – American nonintervention
Barack Obama – UNCONSTITUTIONAL “Patriot” Act.
Mitt Romney – UNCONSTITUTIONAL “Patriot” Act.
Ron Paul – Fourth Amendment
Barack Obama – Gungrabber (Endorsed handgun ban and limiting gun purchases)
Mitt Romney – Gungrabber (Gun Control flip-flopper who SUPPORTED Brady)
Ron Paul – Second Amendment – Introduced legislation to repeal the “Brady Bill” and the so-called “Assault Weapons Ban.”
Obama – COMPULSORY, SOCIALIST “healthcare.” (Obamacare)
Report Post »Romney – COMPULSORY, SOCIALIST “healthcare.” (Romneycare)
Ron Paul – free-market healthcare
restoretheusa
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:20pmWe are in deep S H ! T….I never considered leaving the country but I am starting to think about it. Too many stupid people here, too many on the take, we are so far in now, i sometimes fear the country is lost.
Report Post »KC1
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:49pmAny takers this time on Brothers comparisons?
Does this not worry any of you Romney supporters, that the two candidates records are so alike?!
@Brother,
Report Post »Keep it up amigo this side by side of the candidates is something I think the Blazers would rather ignore. Dont let them! Keep shoving it their faces so if/when Romney is in office and continues to erode Liberty they cannot claim ignorance.
Silversmith
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 6:49am@KC1 and Brother — So what’s your point? Keep up the complaining on the Blaze? Paul would have been a great President. But you’ve missed the boat on that. For what ever reason, he is not the nominee. Griping here doesn’t accomplish anything. You certainly aren’t winning any converts. If you have a plan to change things then get moving, but the constant ranting is pointless.
Silversmith
Report Post »AnAmericanToo
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:31amBrother Winston Smith’s list on the candidates….
People voted for Obama for slogans (Yes we can; Si se puede (source: Marxist chants but probably the populace were too stupid to know that); and “Hope and Change” (too stupid to ASK for his definitions of “hope” and “change” would be they assumed it was their private agenda). One of the major concerns I had was hearing him declare that “he” would RULE by Executive Order. The office of the presidency is NOT a position of ‘ruling”. Those I knew who voted for Obama were white folks who thought it would be ‘cool to have the first black president’ — I thought that sounded rather racist but they couldn’t see their desires for show casing their token person in the White House. Others voted for Obama for the other slogan “A vote for McCain was 4 more years of Bush” (jokes on us all — as Obama is 20 times what Bush was). Never heard ANYONE tell me that they voted FOR Obama for leadership skills, character, etc.
Folks I am hearing from will either write in Ron Paul because they believe in constitutionally framed government — limited with respect for individual rights; or they will be voting THIRD PARTY.
These folks are thinking “anyone but Obama and his continual unconstitutional actions — running to the United Nations for MORE war (even Bush didn’t do that!; ObamaCare; no college records, no passport records, etc). But they can’t vote Romney — fails to respect Constitution too.
Report Post »Critters58
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:39pmI don’t understand how anyone can vote for someone who finds it so difficult to tell the truth. He can’t even be truthful about where he was born or who his real father was. In his book he makes up girlfriends and events. What is wrong with America that they are so blinded?
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:55amCritters58, Obama is a liar I will grant you. He moved his poitions that were dear to his heart in prder to get the people to vote for hom, kinda like Mitt Romney:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWDJEc92d38&feature=youtu.be
If a candidate has to move his positions to the left right or center in order to win your vote, they are LYING to you.
Read Brother Winston Smiths post above to see the similarities to Romney and Obama. What he posts is totally the truth.
Report Post »TexOkie
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:39pmThe picture line reads: “Obama losing his grip on voters”
More like a stranglehold.
Report Post »thatsafact
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:38amObama will not have the votes to win this election. Noone I know will vote for him. My whole familoy is voting for Romney and I just voted for Cruz and he won. Obama has awakened a sleeping giant and we will not rest until he is out of office. I am going to register as many voters as I can and I am doing all I know how to tell people the truth about this president and his abuse of power. We have less than 100 days to end this nightmare. And, I say nightmare because I am fifty seven years old and have never seen a president operate in office like this one does. As if none of the laws of the land apply to him.
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:37pmIn 2008, people in my county adored Obama and I’m pretty sure Obama won here, but judging from the people’s discussions this year, it sounds like Romney will win this time. People have had enough of the lies and the divisiveness and they have been disillusioned.
Report Post »Therese
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:08amIts one thing to say your going to vote for someone. Its another to get up and register to vote.
Report Post »I am sometimes shocked at the number of young adults who are Not registered.
You can begin voting 42 days Prior to the Nov. 6 Election…
oicu814me2
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:37pmI just love to polls of likley voters. i have talked to alot of people that nomally dont vote intill now. I think some will be suprised to find out just how many unlikley voters that will be voting this year. and its not for Obama.
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:31pmHmmm… where’s Ron Paul? The LEFTIST democrat party and the LEFTIST republican party KNOWS their monopoly has just about run it’s course. If Ron Paul is nominated, Obama is gone. If Romney is CHEAT-nominated, Obama is INSTANTLY REELECTED. (the dirty little secret?… it NEVER was ABO… it’s ALWAYS BEEN ABP)
Report Post »MAULEMALL
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:38pmracist homophobe stab Ronald Reagan in the back party quitter libertarian ron paul?
Report Post »MAULEMALL
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:38pmsupports brad manning ron paul??
Report Post »KC1
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:46pmSpot on Brother. ABP has been the bi partisan message since day one.
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:58pmMAULEMALL DISSECTED:
DESPERATE ALINSKYTE LIE:
Report Post »“supports brad manning”
TRUTH:
Ron Paul supports the FIRST AMENDMENT AND A TRANSPARENT GOVERNMENT, NOT necessarily individuals who use those freedoms. The same Alisnkyite smearing has been tried with the RIDICULOUS “Paul want heroin for kids” garbage.
Paul on Manning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAnvBn3S1OY
SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:33pmHey your master is calling he needs his Depends changed.
Report Post »DSTSS2010
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:33pmRon who?
Report Post »DSTSS2010
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:36pmYou sound just like a whiney Al Gore supporter. Waaaa!
Report Post »blair152
Posted on August 8, 2012 at 3:35pmRon Paul doesn‘t stand a snowball’s chance in hell of getting the nomination. Stop drinking the Ron Paul
Report Post »Kool-Aid and see the reality. Republicans are about to take the Senate. Romney’s tied with Obama in
most polls. He’s ahead in another. Romney could win in a landslide. If Ronald Reagan, (the Ronald Reagan from 1980, not the one who couldn’t even remember what is name was), was running for President against Obama, would you support him, or hold out a forlorn hope for someone who mathematically, doesn‘t stand a snowball’s chance in hell of winning the nomination?
vtxphantom
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:29pmIf one goes too far right or left, one loses a grip on reality not just voters. obama jumped that shark long ago. It just took awhile for the ripples to reach the people.
Report Post »garbagecanlogic
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:26pmWatch his eyes lately when giving his lie speeches. There is nothing but fear in them.
Praise Be To Obama. Psalm 109:8
The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
Report Post »The U.N. Out Of The U.S.
team1blazer
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:54pmAmen!, may he and his family be cut off.
Report Post »sndrman
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:25pmJust a thought whenever liberals post here, all they’re doing is to distract us, and run us in circles posting proof to de-bunk them. I think the best thing to do is simply say liberal go away and not answer any of his/her posts……we come here to post and exchange idea’s and info….so when liberals come here sent either from dnc,or obama’s truth(police) website….if we do this consistently the liberals hopefully will go away…..the more we feed into liberal posts the more they win and get us running in circles…trust me it upsets me with their lies and untruths etc… but I think this is our only recourse.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:23pmI agree, stop responding to them. I’m so sick of reading the arguements back and forth and nothing is accomplished. Stop responding!
Report Post »SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:39pmWhere is the “Troll Be Gone Button” ?
Report Post »aldojon
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:23pmreally, who comes up with this crap? and why am i never polled? WTF?!?!?!?! if you voted for McCain you will be voting Romney; where they come up with 5% switching is B(arbara) S(triesand).
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:21pmWhere did I put those voters now, when I came in the Whitehouse, I swore I left them on the table. Oh well, I will just have Rahm go the graveyard and “Dig” some more up.
I am Barrack Obama, and I WILL steal this election. By the way, if you think the Washington Monument is big, wait until you see MY statue, My chin will be higher than the Big W. Monument.
Report Post »Too_Far_Gone
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:20pmIt’s inevitable, they will get desperate ..
Report Post »jzs
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:09pmWith margins error with this small sample, it’s dead even.
That‘s why Romney won’t release his tax returns. You have my word on that. If he did he’d lose the election. You know that, and I know that.
Report Post »Too_Far_Gone
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:15pmHello Idiot #3 ..
Report Post »Dougral Supports Israel
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:18pmThink about the Scott Walker recall election. All the pollsters, the learned pundits said it was too close to call. Well, it turned out to be anything but and Walker won and the unions were left sucking their wounds. It could be the same for Obama.
Report Post »sndrman
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:20pmnice way to divert from the issues,unemployment,economy,fast and furious,holder,radical assocs.,anti-ISRAEL,setting the world on fire and putting extremist muslims in leaderships etc etc i can go on and on………..
Just a thought whenever liberals post here, all they’re doing is to distract us, and run us in circles posting proof to de-bunk them. I think the best thing to do is simply say liberal go away and not answer any of his/her posts……we come here to post and exchange idea’s and info….so when liberals come here sent either from dnc,or obama’s truth(police) website….if we do this consistently the liberals hopefully will go away…..the more we feed into liberal posts the more they win and get us running in circles…trust me it upsets me with their lies and untruths etc… but I think this is our only recourse……
Report Post »Verceofreason
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:20pmThe question you folks should be asking is why Mr. Spotlight, John McCain isn’t condeminng Reid.
Report Post »If you need a hint – McCain HAS seen Romney’s years of taxes.
Individualism
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:22pmyeah the fact he is not releasing them will increase suspicion and hurt him in the polls especially during bad economic times when class warfare is an effective strategy. its more and more likely Romney may not have paid taxes as he holds it out, most presidential candidates release their tax forms and stuff now a days.
Report Post »sndrman
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:23pmJust a thought whenever liberals post here, all they’re doing is to distract us, and run us in circles posting proof to de-bunk them. I think the best thing to do is simply say liberal go away and not answer any of his/her posts……we come here to post and exchange idea’s and info….so when liberals come here sent either from dnc,or obama’s truth(police) website….if we do this consistently the liberals hopefully will go away…..the more we feed into liberal posts the more they win and get us running in circles…trust me it upsets me with their lies and untruths etc… but I think this is our only recourse……
Report Post »Hobbs57
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:25pmActually, Romeny comes out 1 % ahead, but you are probably right JZS, when we add in all the illegals and dead people who voted for Obama last election, obviously, ‘they couldn’t participate in the polls for obvious reasons, so Obama may even be ahead !!
Report Post »team1blazer
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:34pmYeah JZS, and if Odumbshik ever released his college transcripts, he’d be in jail.
Report Post »Dougral Supports Israel
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:40pm@Verceofreason Perhaps its just because Mc Inane has a lot in common with Reid. To enlighten you, McCain is not a shining example of conservatism and is in fact a progressive Republican, RINO if you will. You guys can have him because we don’t want him.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:47pmteam1blazer says, “Yeah JZS, and if Odumbshik ever released his college transcripts, he’d be in jail.”
Yeah, I can imagine that people like you think that anyone who graduates from college should be put in jail so the dumb people can take over. That’s been tried lots of time lots of times before (Mussolini, Pol Pot) but it never works out very well.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:06pmKinda like the “margin of error” between the massive support for Chick-Fil-A last Wednesday and the couple of protestors on Friday? You mean that kind of error?
Report Post »Dougral Supports Israel
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:08pm@JZS I think there are a lot of questions about Obama’s college record. For example did he register and accept aid as a “foreign student”. Why is there this air of mystery and smoke about his grade at Columbia? And why after his illustrious career at Harvard was he relegated to such a subordinate lecturer position at the University of Chicago?
Report Post »mecanic
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:03pmidiot.
Report Post »dblaess
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 5:00amThat is why Obama will not release any of his records. If he did and people saw the truth of his past he would lose. You know this and so does Obama. George is this you again or is it dr. silas.
Report Post »AnAmericanToo
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:59amTexOkie — you say anyone who votes “Third Party” doesn’t understand the consequences of their actions which will bring back Obama for a 2nd Term. You have not read the writings of John Adams who stated that one should vote for one’s principles. In other words — don’t vote for the lesser of two evils but to vote for the person who best understands the Constitution and has moral character to live by high standards.
Folks I know are so fed up with the two party trap which George Washington was against that while they could not vote for Obama (they were wise enough and educated enough to see through the nonsense of chants and slogans and the LACK of life disclosures (no college records, no state legislative voting records, no birth certificate, no adoption records, no passport travel records) and they were darn well NOT voting for the simpleton idea of “vote for the first black president’ that thousands of others were too gullible and got swept up in the hype —- but, they can’t bring themselves to vote for Romney either based upon his record (links to the corrupted Olympics in Utah; he record as governor of Mass (health care) etc.) That means they will be looking at Third Party candidates ….writing in Ron Paul is also an option.
Gary Johnson’s problem is he is an open borders guy — among other problems.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:05amDougral Supports Israel, no, there really aren’t. Where is Romney’s birth certificate? Perhaps he registered for college as a foriegn student? Did Romney claim to be a minority?
Sorry Dougral, but you and I both know the reason these questions are being raised, questions never before asked about any Presidential candidate in history.
On the other hand, Presidential candidates have released their tax returns for the last 60 years or so. Until now of course.
Report Post »www.TopTheNews.com
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:09pmSo whoever loses the least amount of voters will be victorious?
I’m not sure about Romney. I would think the RNC could have come up with about 25 better candidates…People are not passionate about their candidate on either side, just a lot of hatred for the other party…
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:23pmyeah they managed to pick someone even worse than Obama, can you believe it?
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:36pmSo they are saying this is an election of attrition, who bleeds the slowest wins. That makes me feel warm and fuzzy. I hear Vancouver is a nice place to live.
Report Post »KC1
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:43pmWell, I dont doubt Obama is shedding voters every day. It would explain why Romney has no concern for Tea Party support and has shunned the movement at every turn, he believes we are not necessary for a Republican victory in Nov.
Report Post »I think Romney may be a bit cocky, perhaps his white horse prophecy fixation has distorted his view of the current situation.
justangry
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:06pmI seen a poll that said 80% of Americans would consider voting 3rd Party. With the choices we have this time around, I think the time is right. I really wish Ron Paul would run as an independent, but we really can‘t expect any more out of the guy considering how much he’s already done for Individual Liberty.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:12pmJust : Yeah, sure. Voting Third Party would accomplish the Divide the Dumb Republicans ( Democrats Election 2012 : Plan B ) and assure that Comrade Barack Obama would win. Dumbest idea I’ve heard in ages.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:18pmGary Johnson 2012, i know his platform is not as good but he is more experienced and competent than Paul.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:31pmINDI: You guys are amazing. Divide the Dumb Republicans by voting Third Party Johnson will only benefit the Obama DEMOCRATS. Duh. . Why don’t you guys just admit what you are trying to do? It is so freaking obvious. And you have spent so much time trying to accomplish this divide deal. (There is also the “Shrink the electorate” Plan of the Democrats you guys might try ! That’s when you say “Romney is the same as Obama so stay home . ” Oh, wait…you guys have also tried that but not as much !) LOL
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:31pmyea, the deadline for filing as an independent has already passed. Ron Paul is committed to not running as 3rd party.
Good news is that Gary Johnson is already hitting 5% without any coverage and without spending a nickel
Report Post »http://newmexico.watchdog.org/14809/gary-johnson-scores-at-5-3-nationally-against-obama-and-romney/
justangry
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:43pmThe dumbest idea I’ve ever heard of is Republicans shutting out a certain segment of Republicans from the process. I’ve never been politically active until this time around yet my welcome to the process was a great big “no constitutionalists allowed” sign. How will someone that can’t even unite his own party unite the country? Nah, man I’m not the one trying to divide the “dumb conservatives” it’s the establishment and the liberal, progressive, warmongering draft dodger Rominee that is doing that. I’m not welcome, so I’m just trying to get some like-minded people to join me.
Report Post »TexOkie
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:43pmAnyone who votes third party does not understand the consequences of an Obama’s re-election. Might as well commit suicide.
Report Post »KC1
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:55pm@Baber
Report Post »Constitutionalist are evidently not welcome in the GOP and we are reacting accordingly.
Being on the winning team is not our top priority (unlike Romney supporters) we simply want to vote for a candidate we believe will legislate within the confines of the Constitution.
Im sure you can understand our plight.
copatriots
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:57pm@ JUST and other Ron Paul followers (no disrespect intended…..just identifying to whom I’m directing my question)
I haven‘t read all the comments on this one but I’ve been wondering something since our conversation yesterday. I was wondering if you all are active on liberal websites. It would seem it would further your cause more to go after disillusioned 0bama voters and Independents who voted for 0bama in 2008.
Not trying to get rid of ya, by any means. Well, not those of you who are genuine anyway. :-) It just seems to me you’d have a greater impact helping restore this country (which is your stated goal) by changing the hearts of the Dems and Indy’s.
Conservative are voting 0bama out. There will be no convincing us otherwise.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:09pm@copatriots
Personnally, not me. I have been listening to Glenn Beck since 2004 and admire his independent streak (which is diminshing every year). I have liberal friends that i have convinced to vote 3rd party but this is the only place i reside. I would feel really uncomfortable in a socialist bastian
After the republican convention, assuming Romney is the nominee, I will be campaigning for Gary Johnson. It’s a good idea, i promise to go into the liberal wilderness. Where do you suggest? Its gotta be somewhere not too popular or a voice gets drowned out.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:28pmGood for you, SOY! I don’t have a clue which liberal website to recommend. I stay away from their propaganda as much as possible. If you find one, I’d be curious to know if you have an impact there.
Best wishes!
Report Post »KC1
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:29pm@CoPatriots
Report Post »Dont you think its quite a stretch for progressive dems who believe in a looter/moocher society to jump over to a constitutional limited govt mind set?
I thought our efforts would be best spent on conservatives who consider themselves Tea Party. Considering Paul is the grand father of the Tea Party I thought our constitutional principals would be widely accepted amongst the crowd who professed the same principals. I have obviously been proven wrong. It seems limited govt and the Constitution has given way to legislating morality in this group.
I believe you Romney folk would find better fishing in progressive waters considering the beliefs of the two candidates is in almost perfect alignment.
copatriots
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:45pm@KC
That’s the problem……we are already like-minded. Our strategy and timeline vary to get to the accomplished goal. Where we differ is that we aren’t willing to risk giving 0bama another 4 years. And we don’t view Romney anywhere near the Prog Communist 0bama is.
I see you having an impact with moderate Dems and Indy’s……both of whom are most disappointed in 0bama as this article advances.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:52pm@Copatriots, When I set up my account here GB was much different than he is now. He even called himself a Libertarian. Even though I’m more a libertarian leaning Constitutionalist his ideas were closer to mine than the rest. I almost bailed on the Blaze because of the censorship, but have grown fond of many of the folks who post here. I do work the lefites close to me, but don’t think I could handle all the gun control freaks at the huffpo.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:16pm@ JUST
Agree with you regarding fondness of several Blaze posters. This is overall a nice community….especially when the trolls aren’t out en masse. :-)
I still think Glenn leans more Constitutional Libertarian. Like the rest of us, I think he realizes the importance of getting 0bama out of office. Despite other reservations I have, Romney will be good for the economy. He is a very skilled businessman after all. He surely knows macro economics (again, no disrespect but he clearly knows it better than Dr. Paul) whereas 0bama is out to destroy this country.
Thanks to all for your input! I still think you all would make huge progress with the moderate Dems and Indy’s. They are surely less absolute about who they are voting for and may sit out the election altogether. With your passion, I am convinced you could sway many of the disillusioned to the Libertarian Party. Especially since it is highly doubtful they would vote Republican. Just a thought…..
Signing off for tonight. Good night and man blessings!
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 3:28amRomney is a very skilled businessman, geez. This is one of the problems that we face. The government is not supposed to be a business. It is supposed to be so small that we hardly notice it is there. I get it. I know why you all do what you do. You all say you are for the Constitution, but when you get down to the brass tax of it, you all are actually socialistic thinkers. You want big government. You do not care that it will cause our country to fall and you do not care that your offspring and their offspring for generations will live in misery and heartache. That is selfish thinking if you ask me.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 5:49amRomney is a communist nobody wants him.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:14am@ WCP,
Again, we differ on strategy.
Whether you like it or not, America has been involved in business for over 100 years. Hell, most tax-paying Americans pay between 35% to 60% in taxes on what they earn between federal, state and local taxes. Corporate taxes are paid by most business (unless your a friend of the government, i.e. GE). So, yes, Romney’s expertise in business is a plus as we work on the rest of Congress in righting the mess America has become. The key is not only the Presidency but, as important, Congress. In the meanwhile, I’d sure rather have Americans working and jobs for the dependent class as we cut them off the government dole.
The problem is you have a candidate who will never get enough votes. How in the world did he not even win Texas? And somehow you think he can win the country?
Far too many of RP’s followers are inflexible and/or antagonistic calling others “socialistic” because they differ with you on how to get to the same place. I knew that risk asking the question. Many of you do his movement a disservice by arguing vehemently with those who share many of your same views but don’t agree with you on strategy. FWIW, your approach seems to divert as many people away from RP as you would attract.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:35amCopatriots, lol you’re right and West Coast is as passionate as they come. I think he’s a true patriot, but can see your point. Of course, you‘ve seen the names we’re being called constantly, and how we’ve been shut out of the process, and you have to admit the media blackout was sick. I mean you bring up TX, but Romney had to cheat to win delegates in his home state and there‘s basically a huge fight there that media won’t pick up on. And by the time TX primaries were held anyone who doesn’t really dig for information thought Ron Paul was already out of the race. It would help if some of the establishment folks would help us in throwing the BS flag where it needs to be thrown, so we an have an honest discussion on strategy.
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Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:33am@ JUST
I don’t know what happened definitely in Texas. Anecdotally, I have family there, Conservatives, who do not support RP regardless of the blackout. Many Texans just don’t see him as a leader and, I’m sorry, but that’s putting their words kindly. I’m not disagreeing with you that establishment cheating was likely involved…..I’m only saying RP not carrying the state is not entirely due to the perceived blackout. Speaking of the establishment and support, I was glad to see the headline this morning of Rand getting time at the convention.
As to name-calling, sadly, it happens on both sides and seems unbeneficial. Typically, I jump over most comments when I see the names involved as it’s the same argument on every thread. I only entered the fray on this one because I was curious if you all considered advancing the cause of liberty to disenfranchised 0bama voters. I think there are many among them who voted for the first time in 2008. I don’t think they were bad people……just that they got caught up in the idealism and made a horrible decision.
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Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:12am@ JUST……back to establishment cheating for a moment. I’m on record saying, and I will repeat it here, that in a fair election that Romney would win……or any of the original field of R candidates would win. Heck, Mickey Mouse would win. I just don’t think we are going to have a fair election. I do not think progressives are about to give up the power of the presidency……especially with the Exec Orders 0bama has been putting in place revising martial law and government control over communication. I am not sure what is in store in the next couple of months but I am very concerned. In addition, something seems awfully strange about Dems telling their members to not even attend their convention. I REALLY hope I am wrong but I fear something evil this way comes…….
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:17pm@CoPatriots, I’m not denying a lot of people dislike RP. Especially in Texas. A lot of people here hate him too, primarily because of foreign policy and vice legalization. Both positions have been distorted, but that’s beside the point. I mean arguing that now is moot. A lot of the GOP cheating/fraud during the primaries isn’t made available by the MSM, so most people aren’t aware of it, but it did disgust me enough that I want all those responsible for it purged out of the system. GB not picking up on it and going with the media blackout is what has so many RP supporters mad at him. We thought he was honest and different, but he showed his hand during the primaries.
Obama’s executive orders firghten me too, but what really frightens me is the GOP gave him so much power, and they’re refusing to do anything about those exectutive orders. I mean the Republican congress can defund his ability to exucute them if they wished. They control the money. It’s too late to do anything about it now, and we‘re not going to change each other’s minds, just keep what we’re saying in the back of your mind for 2016. We think the police state is being constructed by both sides.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:28pmYes, I am passionate about the Constitution, individual liberty and fighting to keep it from slipping away from our grasp forever, which is what is happening from both Democrats and Republicans. I have been through nine elections for POTUS and have seen my share of election fraud, but none so blatant as the RNC in this primary. You talk of Obama and the Dems doing election fraud to win? Well maybe the GOP deserves it, who knows.
As far as demonizing me for calling anyone socialistic, let us define a socialist. A socialist is anyone who believes in big government. That is it. Obama believes in big government, Romney believes in big government, they just have slightly different ideas on the governments role in that big government scenario. If you believe in either of these two candidates philosophies, that makes you a socialistic thinker. I am a small, very small government thinker and believe the government messes up everything they try to manage. I am a conservative libertarian that has been a registered Republican for over 36 years, and I am, for the first time, considering leaving the GOP and registering Independent as the GOP philosophy of big government will not ever sit well with me.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:07pm@WCP, Yeah, I’m going to register as an independent after Tampa. I don’t want to have anything to do with the GOP as it stands right now. I hope they get sent away when/if the RICO case goes through.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:06pmsorry, no one who voted for mccain will be voting for obama
they may do a write in
but many many people who voted for obysmal will either be staying home, or voting for romney
its fun watching the democrat party implode
Report Post »Verceofreason
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:24pmThey will be staying home.
Report Post »Lots of progressives and lefties are disappointed with Obama.
But, I assure you, they won’t be voting for Romney.
Romney will declare war on Iran (he’s more than hinted to feed the MIC and justify no cuts while
enriching military contract campaign contributors.
Cheney and Bush are war profiteers.
soybomb315_II
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:32pm@Psychosis
Report Post »Just wait till Obama starts bombing Iran…you will see a lot of those moderate McCain voters switching to obama. sad
barber2
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:37pmVERCE: I think there is a greater chance of Iran declaring ( oops . they would not declare they are too sneaky for that ! ) war on Israel. Or the crazy Muslim fanatics continuing their undeclared War on the West …
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:43pmSoy: Sorry to disappoint you, but conservatives do NOT do ” anti-capitalism” and Big Brother Government..bombs or no bombs..
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:00pmBarber
Report Post »Who said anything about conservatives?
barber2
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:34pmSOY: a moderate McCain voter is still a conservative compared to Karl Marx Obama. And they will not vote for Obama. Nor will the average independents. Obama has gone Far Left and he is in deep with them
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:52pmand a moderate McCain voter is a progressive compared to a tea party candidate or constitutional candidate. Now you see where you fall into the grand scheme of things – somewhere in the middle
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