Stunning Poll: Cain Up 20% Over Romney, Beating Obama
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Jonathon M. Seidl
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Zogby has just released a poll that is sure to stun many: Herman Cain is not only the frontrunner for the GOP nomination, he’s leading Mitt Romney by 20 percentage points. But there’s more: he’s also beating President Obama 46%-44%.
Zogby has the numbers:
Cain’s share of the GOP primary has jumped 10 percentage points since Sept. 26 and is now at 38%. Mitt Romney is second with 18%, followed by both Rick Perry and Ron Paul, at 12% each.
The Oct. 3-5 IBOPE Zogby interactive poll also matches Cain, Romney and Perry against Obama. Cain led Obama, 46%-44%, while Obama is one-point ahead of Romney, 41%-40%, and leads Perry, 45%-40%.
And here’s how it breaks down visually:
There’s also another interesting side note: of the potential nominees that Zogby asked the above question about, Ricky Perry polled the worse. Obama beat Perry 45% to 40%.
Read the full poll results here.
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cruisemates
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:20pmIf he is the man most likely to beat Obama then by all means. I tend to think Mitt would be better candidate when it comes to pulling in the center in a national election against Obama and we need to WIN this next election, and then means getting the candidate who can appeal to the most people, not just conservatives.
I do think Cain is highly intelligent and would be able to hold his own, though. He did great in his interview with weasel Lawrence O’Donnell on MSNBC. Speaking of O‘Donnels’ the last candidate we need is a Christine O’Donell – My point being I don‘t agree with Michelle Bauchman’s theory that “any conservative can beat Obama this year,” That was what we learned in the mid-terms, you can’t count on the left losing the next election – we have to WIN it.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:25pmAnd if you want to see someone hold up against Obama, Mitt Romney is the likely choice. Look to Romney’s speech this morning… If you want to see a strong Foreign Policy look at Romney’s speech today. And watch the military cadts go crazy over Romney’s attacks on Obama. They loved every minute of those attacks by Romney: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/oct/romney_foreign_policy.html
Report Post »timej31
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:26pmI can place my dirty socks on the ballot against this prez and my socks will win.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:28pmI am still listening to his speech, it gets better with every minute. Listen to him take on Muslim radicals, China, and Russia. He is the strongest candidate when it comes to the economy and now it sounds like foreign policy as well.
Romney/Cain 2012
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:35pmThis is one American citizen who will never again vote for the Republican nominee just because he has the best chance of winning. If there isn‘t a person on the ticket who I can trust to lead this nation out of debt and away from our big gov’t culture then I will write in my choice in shapie and force the poll workers to manually enter the vote.
Report Post »motonutt
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:39pmWe all know Glen is a mormon. And I am only assuming Glen has a lot of mormon followers at this site. I am surprised that there is not more here that are supporting Romney over Cain. I see Cain as the most supported here. Like I said this is only an observation, assumption, don’t blast off at me, I could be wrong about the number of mormons here. If I am right though I see it as a good thing. That mormons are not endorsing Romney just because he is a mormon…that’s showing upright honesty.
Report Post »machgun
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:42pmwith all due respect, the establishment republicans as much or more to do with Mrs. O‘Donald’s loss as anything. They had a temper tanruim when she beat the Rino Mike Castle.
Report Post »Pappypatriot
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:49pm@SGTB,
If you cannot trust Mitt Romney to turn our economy around with his vast experience of doing that many, many times with hundreds of companies and the Olympics you cannot trust anyone. He is a very moral and upright man and has spent his entire life in the service of his fellow man, that should win anyone’s trust over other than a far leftist or someone who is stuck on stupid about his Religious faith. Sorry to be so blunt but Mitt is the real deal and has a tremendous record and life story that is very inspirational.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:53pmGood for Herman.
If he gets the nod, he’s got my vote !!!!!!!
Report Post »fastfacts
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:55pmAre you saying you have to be Mormon to be a Romney supporter?
Funny, my Tea Party group has a majority support behind Romney. We have read through his bill and all the sections he vetoed, through reports written by the Heritage Foundation, gone through his history and local newspaper articles and that is why we support Romney. We are proud to have Romney as someone to fix this economy and fix our standing in the world. Obama had no experience and it has shown in almost all of his policy choices. Romney has a get stance and background when it comes to the Economy, Foreign Policy, even Social Issues, after his change of heart 15 years ago. Did you know that he has always fought for traditional marriage. He has also worked with pro-life causes ever since that ‘conversion.’ It is almost to say he is making amenze for his stance before, that or it looked better while he was the governor.
Then again I still like Herman Cain and his no non-sense answers to questions. Romney is soft in this section.
Sorry you don’t have to be Mormon to be a supporter of Romney and I would be proud to put my check next to his name in the Primary.
As for when it comes to his advisers, I am glad he has people in there with experience of what happens in the White House. Have you seen though, they are not his closest advisers, he has a few within the ranks but he has his own people as his top advisers. That is smart as a businessman, to have people that have experience, be part of the tea
Report Post »Pappypatriot
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:56pmZolby Poll results translation: the far left and Obama are very afraid of a Mitt Romney candidacy. Zolby is a far leftist, very liberal polling agency. They are most likely skewering the results to try to boost Cain in hopes of hurting Mitt Romney kind of like their version of operation chaos.
Report Post »INOGAWD
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:01pmHang in there and Good Luck Mr. Cain ….
We Need You !!
Report Post »Happymommaofalmost6
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:03pmMotonutt, one thing you should know about Mormons is that 95% of us are “radically” honest! I like Mitt, but am not completely supporting him at this point. If he is the nominee then of course I would support him. I consider Mitt in that 95%. Honesty is one of the most important qualities a president can have. Now I do give a small leeway for political figures. The media can screw anything up and with all the numbers floating around it can be hard to discern what is true.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:03pmSHANEMMCC,
We have been through this before, Romney having a few Bush advisers in the campaign is a smart business move. Look at a business person’s perspective. If I am buying out Blockbuster and I am about to start up a service like Netflix, I want ot talk some of their guys to help/advise me on things to do and things not to do. Do I make them my closest advisers, no, I hire them as adviser on certain issues and they can give me more information in what is really happening.
Wait a second, that is exactly what is happening. Dish Network is buying out Blockbuster and starting up a service similar to Netflix. And guess who they hired… some Netflix employees. Now all of us would say Netflix isn’t going the best but Blockbuster can learn from their mistakes. Interesting how that works out so well.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:03pmGingrich/Cain or Cain/Gingrich 2012.
In my opinion, Romney would just be the white version of what we already have.
Report Post »mck05002
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:04pmMotonutt I‘m a mormon and I don’t like Romney for the nominee, and definitely not Huntsman for that matter. Voting for someone because of or in spite of their religion is ridiculous. Cain is my top pick and has been from the beginning. I‘m glad he’s beginning to rise in the polls!
Report Post »ILUVAMERICA
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:04pmEVERY poll you see is a LIE!!!!
Report Post »It’s just another way of contolling the sheeple
RON PAUL
If Ron Paul is not on the ballot in 2012 (if omam hasn’t cancelled elections by then) then I hope the US revolts in every town and every citiy and destroys every government building in the whole US
They want to bring down our government and make us all slaves
If RonPaul is not on the Ballot it means we get to pick from a bilderberg republican or a bilderberg democrat
Either way, WE LOSE!!!!!
They rallied after Cain after Perry’s political past was exposed
OH NO what do we do
They pick Cain He won’t end the fed
They can‘t back Romney he’s the enemy (WINK WINK)
We can back The Tea Party (Cain is not Tea Party, He just jumped on their wagon for his own political Purpose)
We can back Newt, He don’t play the game
We CAN NEVER back Ron Paul!!!! He will end the FED, He will bring our troops home, He will REPEL OBAMA CARE
HE have us all arrested and THROWN in jail (were they all belong)
PLEASE PEOPLE SMARTEN UP!
Cain will be just another PUPPET
mad_hatter
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:08pmSHANEMMCC,
Yes I have friends that are libertarian and Mormons also. They are complete Ron Paul supporters but i guess they have seen the writing on the wall and now guess who they have at the top of their lists… Romney… and Cain. I guess you win some and you lose some.
Interesting though, they were willing to read things like the Heritage Foundation articles. They even agreed that Romney was trying to shrink the government role in his health care bill and agree on Romney’s original mandate “You buy your insurance, or you pay your bills.’ That is how they live today. They live without health care, of which I have tried talking them into purchasing it but they still say no. So I win some and I lose some.
Report Post »wysiwyg
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:13pmIf Cain prevails and picks Newt Gingrich as VP running mate, they will have a viable and balanced team that may well engender a winning landslide
Report Post »schmite123oh
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:13pmHere is a thought Herman Cain/ Ron Paul ticket 2012. I like them both equally, and Cain has fewer quirks that turn people off like Ron seems to have, and Ron is right on about 95% of all the issues and is definately the man for the Job regarding the FED and the Deficit.
Report Post »LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:16pmCain is a smart principled man and thats what I like about him. If he gets nomination, he will have my vote. He will need to do his homework regarding forign policy, but I believe he has the Intelligence needed to do the job.
Signed,
Report Post »racist white Tea Party supporter
motonutt
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:16pm@FAST…….I don’t believe I or anyone else said anything about having to be a mornon to like Romney.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:17pmIf Cain were to pick Paul it should be Rand Paul.
Report Post »Mr. Oshawott
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:18pm@SgtB
I with you there. No way I’m basing my vote on a candidate that simply has “the best chance of winning” as well.
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:18pmRAISE CAIN!!!!!!!!!!!
Herman Cains interview (more like an interrogation) with SissySocialistLarryO’DUNNO ROCKED!!!
IF you haven’t seen it check it out.
CAIN is BRIILIANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LarryDunno? Move to some moonbatty lefty ******* world. YOU STINK
NO BO in 2012!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »crazedbanshee
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:21pmI have done enough research on Romney to know I will never vote for him. To me it seems like he flops on an issue to appeal to who he thinks his voters will be. When he was running for Governor he was liberal with many of his views. A few years before he started running for President many of those views started changing to conservative.
He either truly had a change of heart, or it is as I stated. Right now we can’t take the risk, so he is out for me.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:23pmI’m sorry, but Mitt is another Progressive. Sure, he’s a nationalist, but Progressive nonetheless.
Herman Cain is a Conservative who understands 2 critical things:
Business
Freedom
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:25pmRemember everyone, Cain already said he would be interested in a Romney VP, if he would accept his 9-9-9 plan. He has always spoken highly of Romney and they have a great relationship through this process. The best relationship than any other two. Second only would be Gingrich and almost everyone.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:28pmFROM AN EARLIER POST:
I think it is funny that Perry would say something like this considering his flip-flops. What he doesn‘t want people to know about Romney is that he had a ’conversion’ to a pro-life stance before he ran for governor, yes he was still working through it when he battled his opponent for the governorship, he spoke about this in multiple interviews in 2007-2008. As a campaign pledge in Mass. he promised to keep the status quo with gay rights and abortion. (That seems like a negative) BUT when he became governor he stood up against the courts trying to give gays the right to marry. Wrote a strong article in the WSJ and stood strong against bills trying to furthering gay rights.Then with abortion, he vetoed bills such as the morning after pill, Mass leg. overturned him, so he wrote a bill protecting faith based hospitals.
When he left the governorship, until today, he has been actively campaigning for pro-life groups. Such as the… Susan B. Anthony foundation. That is right, the one he couldn’t sign their pledge for because of the wording. Read their op-ed about Romney’s choice (Cain said no to this pledge as well) they even stated that he wanted something amended in the pledge and they denied him the request. So he wrote his own and signed it, so did Cain. The Susan B. Anthony still praised him for the work he had been doing for them over the years.
ROMNEY IS PRO-LIFE AND PRO-TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE, EVEN IF PERRY WOULD LIKE PEOPLE TO FORGET
Report Post »Gary_K
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:31pmMitt is just another prompter reader. Havent we had enough of them already?
Report Post »raiderglenn
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:33pmStupid logic… what good is winning if the guy who wins doesn’t have the ideas and/or will to make the changes we need if this country is going to survive???
Putting yet another crony capitalist in the Whitehouse is going to kill us just as sure as 4 more years of Obama. it might slow it down a bit, but we will be done just the same.
We’ve had nothing but career politicians in the Whitehouse for as long as I can remember, that MUST change!
If my sink is leaking I don’t get a car mechanic in to look at it, I get a plumber. If the economy MUST be fixed don’t hire a politician, HIRE A BUSINESSMAN!
Report Post »jedi.kep
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:37pm@Madhatter, Romney is a flip floppin politician. He’s slicker than slick Willie. He is a worthless republican and even more worthless governor.
Report Post »PoliticalJunkieToo
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:37pmMitt Romney is a RINO.
Report Post »Who is Mitt Romney? Created by NIU Students for Liberty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1wPrsEP2nc
motonutt
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:40pm@HAPPYMOM…….I do know most mormons are very honest, that’s why this subject intersts me.
Report Post »My ex wife of 20 years was a mormon, I don’t agree with your religion, but I do know for the most part mormons are great very honest people. That’s why I wanted to see if there was any pro bias towards Romney just because he is morman, and I know I can get an honest answer. Thanks mom!
Alfred F. Jones
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:58pmAs much as I would like to agree with you on Romney, there are too many people in America that will not vote for him because he is Mormon. Look at how much hate that religion gets. If Romney is the nominee he will have to fight all those bigots who will hate you just because you are Mormon. Believe me it is prevalent in American society and I have been dealing with it my whole life. Romney maybe a centralist, but his religion unfortunately is gonna zing him. Cain may have a better chance than Romney.
Report Post »UncleRico
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 5:10pmCain has my vote over Romney. Hell all of the above including that guys socks over Romney. He is just more of the same to me.
I disagree with the comment that we need someone like Romney to pull in the center because I believe the center and even some center left is and has moved to the right.
I do however agree no matter what we have to give Obummer his pink slip next election.
Report Post »PoliticalJunkieToo
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 5:16pmmachgun
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:42pm
with all due respect, the establishment republicans as much or more to do with Mrs. O‘Donald’s loss as anything. They had a temper tanruim when she beat the Rino Mike Castle.
_____
EXACTLY. Carl Rove, Dana Perino, Bill ORielly, Charles Krauthammer SPENT HOURS trashing O’Donnel and said NOTHING about her self-admitted communist opponent. I am TIRED of “elite” republicans telling me WHO to vote for and they are SHOVING ROMNEY DOWN OUR THROATS. Romney is a RINO.
GO HERMAN CAIN.
Report Post »western_red
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 5:18pmDoes the name “Smoot/Halley Act” ring a bell? The Obama/Romney Tariff Act WILL set off a trade war just like the original labor protectionist act did back during The Great Depression. “The suppression of competition was a matter of deliberate policy in Germany, undertaken in the service of an ideal we now call planning.”( Friedrick A. Hayek, 1944. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_to_Serfdom) I lean towards a consummate leader like Mr. Cain, rather than a smooth politician like Mitt.
Report Post »(PS. I’m neither black nor morman, but the USA is my home, and also my father’s who was a legal German immigrant farmer)
Knives4Less.US
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 5:23pmAll those supporting Romney because of his superior understanding of international affairs need to take a lesson from Bill Clinton: “IT’S THE ECCONOMY STUPID!!!”
Report Post »cvm
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 5:31pmGoing to the center is why this country is screwed up now.
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 5:31pmPRAISE THE LORD! We’re able to raise Cain. This is the first time in years I’ve felt good about a candidate. Last time I held my nose all the way to the poling booth. If Mr. Cain continues his lead and becomes our candidate for the primary, I’m so overjoyed I can hardly contain myself.
Thank you Lord, we’ve waiting a long time for a trustworthy, honest man like Herman Cain.
For the frugal who kept McCain’s bumper stickers, just cut off the Mc and you got it made. Yea!
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 5:55pmSHANEMMCC,
I will state it again, Romney has always been for traditional marriage. Go back to the letter, have you read it. This is where he speaks on discrimination not marriage. The only negative I see is that, even though he supported Clinton‘s Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, he said it was a way to make it not needed in the future, though he has always stated he did not want to remove it. All the way to today he stil supports DADT and did not want it changed.
Again, the whole letter was about Discrimination. Not marriage. I state again, Romney has always been for Traditional Marriage. This is the dozenth time you have tried to distort Romney’s record, much like Perry constantly does.
All the candidates, minus Perry have spoken up at the debates and agreed with Romney that he is Pro-Life and Pro Traditional Marriage, even Santorum did, unless he wants to flip-flop now, but I don’t see him doing that.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 5:58pmWesternRed, Actually Obama does not support the Chinese repremend. He does not want the Senate to pass it. But what is your suggestion. Let China continue to steal from us, maybe allow them to under price their currency and grow the trade gap. This is why we need to take action against China or leave the economic benefits and jobs going to China… what is your plan?
Status Quo…
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 6:16pmSHANEMMCC,
Would you rather have Ron Paul the flip-flopper, with a horrible stance on foreign policy when it comes to things like a nuclear Iran.
1) What is his stance on the Gold Standard? He is for it. Then why would he tell the US to sell all the gold in Fort Knox. Why would he want to get rid of the gold so there would be no way to go back to the Gold Standard.
2) What is his stance on earmarks? He is for them. Then how can you call him an economic hawk when they are giving away good money after bad policy and bad money. Not to mention the fact that he loves putting in earmarks for his district even though he wouldn’t vote for the bills he puts them in. Sounds underhanded but he wins either way. Why doesn’t he follow the constitution and the laws set and place his appropriates of funds in an appropriation bill like they were made for. That is why it is called an appropriations bill, to appropriate funds.
3) What is his stance on gay marriage and abortion… What about stay out of my bedroom? He is for gay marriage or ‘whatever you call it’. As for abortion… he says he is a strong pro-lifer but then he goes on to say that the states have the option to change that.
I do applaud him at his strong pro-life support but he has fought against federal bans on abortion and then come back to pass the Sanctity of Life Act. Sounds like a flip-flop though I am glad he changed his mind on pushing for a Federal change.
Report Post »jcldwl
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 6:28pmAll of you that like Romney seem to be forgetting Romney care. Cain is the man he talks straight and makes sense. He also is not a career politician and that is what we need to really make a change. Romney is just the same old republican progressive. WAKE UP!
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 6:31pmIn regards to the question of do Mormons support Romney first because he is Mormon or Cain. I am Mormon and I like Romney but I like Cain much better. Knowing Mormons as I do, most will vote for the better person, whether they are Mormon or not. If the contest were close, then they would pick the Mormon over the non-Mormon, just by being human. However, as I already stated, I like Cain quite a bit more than Romney, at least for now. Cain seems more genuine, more on message, and less of a life-time politician. Cain has my vote, for the time being. My magic ticket would be Cain as President and Romney as VP. My second choice magic ticket would be Romney Pres and Cain VP.
Report Post »Jacque
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 6:39pmRomney is a closet progressive. Americans need a conservative to rid our Administation of all the Marxists, Communist and socialists in the govt. acting like they care about our great country. Cain/West 2012
Report Post »djtsb
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 6:52pm@Mad Hatter:
Wait until Herman Cain talks to the cadets.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 6:52pmRomney should have 0% for any Republican or Conservative with integrity or honor would never vote for someone who has flipped flopped on so many issues. Trust is sacred and you can not trust someone who can not stand on principle.
-For cap n trade, now against it
-Pro Choice, now Pro Life
-Romneycare, now obamacare is wrong
-For Auto Bailouts, then against it
-For campaign spending limits, now against it
-For Tarp and now against it
-Against Captial gains tax cut, now for them
-For stem cell research and now against it
-For Amnesty, now against it.
This list could go all day. So again, as a Republican Conservative and those who believe in Christ, how can anyone consider voting for Mitt Romney? Only a fool would vote for someone with a record like Mitts. Wake up.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 6:54pm… we still have a lot of time to 11/2012, but I do like Herman Cain. Why? Because he’s not a smooth, swarthy politician like Romney. Cain is smart. He has proven himself in the business world, and he’s in your face, and rightly so. I believe he would knock the political elites for a loop and not stop until his term was up! American’s needs someone who will seriously kick the ass of the political elites in this country. Then we can go after our media, Hollyweird, muslim immigration, and communism. I think it’s time we outlaw commies … and muslims. Lot’s of work to do, people!! Cheers!
Report Post »PoliticalJunkieToo
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 6:55pmMitt Romney has been running for president longer than Obama did. Both are arrogant jerks. Romney, like Obama will say anything and do anything including flip flopping on every issue to get the POWER of the Presidency. Romney wants to be president FOR HIMSELF not for the country – just like Obama.
Romney thinks it is HIS TURN and that he can buy the election. I keep telling myself I will vote for whoever the Republican nominee is BUT when push comes to shove, voting for Romney may be more than I can stomach and I will vote for the 3rd party candidate.
Romeny/Obama – two peas of a pod. Bad for the USA.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:06pmIf Herman Cain is a Christian man who loves God and follows Him, Herman will address us and tell us truthfully his 9-9-9 plan is a progressive plan.
If Herman loves the Constitution and will require all his staffers to carry one, Herman should as well and open it now to see how taxation was issued from the Constitution. Herman does not do that and his 9-9-9 plan is nothing like the Constitution speaks taxation should be.
Direct taxes are to be proportioned (take total wanted collected and divide by population; we all pay the same)
Indirect taxes are to be uniform (2% tax in OK must be 2% in NY; voluntary tax)
9% Sales Tax
9% Income Tax – Progressive; UnConstitutional
9% Cooperate Tax – Progressive; UnConstitutional
Our founders, Hamilton, argued in Fedaerlist Papers a consumption tax was the best tax for it CHECKED government from taxing/spending to much for if tax is too high, you won’t buy and Governemnt will take in less. Taxation of income discourages prosperity and too easily raised by Government.
Please see, 9-9-9 only leads to Governemnt taxing you on income and consumption. It is progressive and it is unConstitutional. Sounds good, but it don’t hold water….If Cain loves the Constitution, simply follow it and not the Progressive Plan…Please, look yourself….
Report Post »Ronko
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:09pmNone of these Candidates are George Washington but Herman Cain gives us the best chance to save this country. At least he has ideas and isn’t looking to BS us like Obama did.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:27pmmost of the people here are as wishy washy as john kerry…
stick to your guns, half of you are sheep, you just follow some poll, even polls noone has ever heard of.. you are eating right out of their hands.
Cain is for the centralized bank. anyone for the centralized bank is part of the problem… we are going to loose our land… it is only a matter of time before they foreclose on us…
“Give me control over a nations currency, and I care not who makes its laws”
The US Treasury, by Constitution, is to be controlling our currency, backed by precious metals, not a private organization… it’s like giving the FDA to Monsanto and trusting the private company to have full control over our food supply. Dumb…
Give me control over a nations food supply, and I care not who controls its currency or makes its laws. – Future Monstanto
Give me control over a nations water supply, and i care not who controls its currency, controls the food supply or makes its laws. – Future EPA
….
Report Post »raiderglenn
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:28pmOkie from Muskogee, you need to be clear on 2 things.
1. The amendments to the constitution are part of the constitution. So the income tax is constitutional at this time and a new amendment needs to be passed to end it.
2. A progressive tax is a tax that is based on income levels, it takes more for those who earn more (at a higher %)
The flat 9% on both income and corporations would be a giant step to making things fair again in this country.
Report Post »waggie
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:34pmMOTONUT = Idiot. We are not all Mormons who visit this site. And who cares even if we were? We are mostly people who are SICK AND TIRED of the path this country is taking.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:37pm@shanemmcc
Ron Paul is as solid as concrete. he is the ONLY candidate who can and will restore our foundation.
Report Post »there is not another person in congress or candidate who has the wisdom of our founding fathers and the deep understanding of our Declaration and Constitution as much Ron Paul does. he lives and breaths freedom, charity and liberty. not one bad thing can even be said about the guy. they ALL, i mean ALL people who, “do not like him”, in the media and everything, resort to name calling, without ANY justification for it. NOTHING he says is far fetched if you care about liberty and freedom, he explains his answers FULLY and they make sense… unlike every other candidate.
loriann12
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:48pmRmney is a RINO. The only reason Democrats would vote for him instead of Obama is because he’s more middle of the road. If you stand in the middle of the road, you get run over. If Cain is out ahead, we need to ditch the RINOS. And don’t start in, Ron Paul Zombies….you scare me out of voting for Paul. If it weren‘t for people who can’t articulate why they like someone besides tearing down other candidates, I won’t vote for that person. I agree with about 80% of what Paul says, but his zombies scare me away.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:50pm@RaiderGlenn
You are right. The PROGRESSIVE income tax amendment was added to the Constitution, therefore it is legit. Truth also is it was created and passed by PROGRESSIVES. Cain supports an amendment for marriage so why couldn’t he support an amendment to repeal the PROGRESSIVE income tax?
Correct, PROGRESSIVES divide, not unite as seen in their PROGRESSIVE tax policy that taxes people differently similar to taxing by color, or weight, or IQ.
A flat 9% is not fair or Constitutional pre 16th amendment for 9% of 100 = 9 and 9% of 1000 = 90, it discriminates; we do not pay the same; it is Progressive…..
If Cain is honest he will say his plan is Progressive and is based off the PROGRESSIVE income tax amendment. 9-9-9 plan is not in line of the founders and Constitution before Progressives jacked it up. If anything, the 9-9-9 plan is a revamped Progressive tax policy enabling a tax not only on income but on all goods sold.
So I ask you, is Cain’s plan a progressive plan based off the progressive income tax amendment? And why should we vote for anything Progressive?
Report Post »ccr
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:06pmWhere’s the Blaze……..TRUTH……….about Perry’s crony Baptist preacher MAKING RELIGION an issue in this election???
http://mittromneycentral.com/2011/10/07/is-rick-perry-intentionally-seeking-the-anti-mormon-vote/ Watch the so-called Christian pastor exercising bigotry over Perry’s biggest competition. The hypocrisy of a preacher……..IGNORING the Constitution in spirit on Article 6……..introducing Perry and sending out “ALERT CODE” for his fellow evangelicals is sad. He should be ashamed of himself. IF Perry has ANY integrity he should denounce Jeffress BECAUSE he made RELIGION an issue politically. BUT……..as you can see in the video…..Perry is PLEASED with the knocked it outta the park introduction!
BLAZE……………….WHEN WILL YOU REPORT THIS TRUTH?!?!?!
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:29pmActually, the poll had an error margin of +/- 2.5%. That’s what is known as a “statistical dead heat.” And IMO, Cain‘s numbers may go down once people realize he’s stopped running on the anti-Islam platform that initially appealed to people (smarter campaign heads prevailed I guess).
In any case, I hope America improves education in the area of math at least.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:30pm@ShaneMMCC
Howdy!
Why am I being put in time out? Did I say something inaccurately?
As for a sales tax (indirect consumption tax), if Government abused it Government would be biting the hand that feeds it. A consumption tax is exactly what was argue for to keep Government from taxing too much. What did you think the below meant?
“It is a signal advantage of taxes on articles of consumption that they contain in their own nature a security against excess. … If duties are too high, they lessen the consumption; the collection is eluded; and the product to the treasury is not so great as when they are confined within proper and moderate bounds. This forms a complete barrier against any material oppression of the citizens of this class, and is itself a natural limitation of the power of imposing them.” Hamilton
Report Post »CatB
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:48pmCain/Rubio 2012!
TEA!
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 9:10pm@ShaneMMCC
I see my error. A sales tax is on everything at a % and it should be excise tax which is limited to certain goods at a certain set price. I always lump those as the same. My bad. So truthfully all of Cain’s plan is not in line with the founders!
Ron Paul is the answer cause Cain ain’t Able!
http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/taxes/
Report Post »scarebear83
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 9:28pmBeen on the Cain train since before he announced he was running! I remember when he announced it. So keeping with Cain is starting to pay off! If anyone “cain” turn this country around Herman “Cain.” lol Yes we Cain! (Overkill? lol ok I’ll stop… anyone notice how his name kinda rhymes with “hurricane?” He’s a force to be reckoned with!)
Report Post »raiderglenn
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 10:04pmOkie from Muskogee,
Sorry, but that logic doesn’t hold water… you say 9% of 100 is 9 & 9% of 1000 is 90… While your math is correct, your saying it is progressive is not. Under your premise someone who made $10,000 and paid $900 should expect someone who made $100,000 to also pay $900? That would make the tax rate 9% for 1 and 0.9% for the other… that’s insane.
Let’s be real here, you can’t wish away the income tax overnight. Not even if pope Paul won the election. So let’s keep the discussion where we can really go in a 4 year span. Having 100% of the people pay the same tax rates across the board would be a giant jump in the right direction. Wishing that fairy-tales could come true isn’t going to do anything for us, and that’s what the idea of going from our mess today to 0 income tax tomorrow is… a fairy-tale!
So enough of this “if he is a Christian and would be honest” crap, OK?
Report Post »mrst
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 10:09pmhow does hiring Romney constitute a win? I say we do like Bachman says and DON”T settle again. The country is on the brink. We just put our money on Cain. I am reading his book and very impressed. This guy has got it, too bad the media is trying so hard to pretend otherwise.
Report Post »aint it grand
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 10:33pmRomney; Perry….more of the same old blown-dried political horse$#it. PLEASE let Cain / West beat back this socialist government.
Report Post »ConTex
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:18pmAll you need to know about Romney can be seen here as he tries to out-liberal Ted Kennedy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9IJUkYUbvI
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:37pm@Raider Glenn
What part of proportioned by the population do you not understand?
We want to collect $1000
Population of say 2 states equals 100, 70 in one state 30 the other
$1000/100=10 per person
State with 70 collects $700
State with 30 collects $300
How much you make is irrelevant, not part of the equation. The Government decides how much revenue it needs to operate. Government then tells you how much you owe. Your duty is to get a job and pay that tax. Encouragement. We have been taught how much you make is part of the equation since 1900′s or so by Progressives.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. 9-9-9 plan is the same Progressive tax so why should we expect a different result?
Believing in the founders vision and Constitution is not a fairy tail. It is sad you say that, but that is only defeat in your mind. Some of us will continue to speak the Constitution and TEA even if you do not know what either mean. We are speaking for you to hear.
Christian men are honest. I take that to heart. If I see someone lying or distorting truth I don’t just shut up and not say something, I speak. Not to speak is to speak. So until Mr. Cain declares his plan progressive or you can show error, I stand by my words…A fairy tale would be to believe Mr. Cain’s plan would actually end any differently if not worse then we are now. Have a great night!
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:44pmMad_Hatter,
Yeah but how long until Romney flip-flops and goes the other way….. again?
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We CALL upon ALL veterans and veteran organizations in America, who still believe in their oath to protect and defend, to unite with us at once – in this Declaration to Restore the Constitutional Republic.
We CALL for ALL citizens who still desire freedom and liberty, to stand with us in peaceful protest, and carry our demands to right the wrongs against our nation in the preservation of freedom, liberty, justice and the rule of law.
Help us save our Nation. Start here… http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/forum/topics/just-this-minute-launched-a-declaration-to-restore-the-constituti
Report Post »brachypelma
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:50pmOh yeah. The military, that’s the votes we want. A bunch trained to-obey people in a bubble who total up to .004 of the population (1.47m of 311m). Who do the intelligent people think would be best? That‘s who I’m voting for.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 12:15am@MAD_HATTER Thank you for posting Mitt’s speech…
Report Post »jameswhite1969
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 1:04amI say all of them should be in the white house. 1 President, 1 Vice President, and the rest will fill the cabinet to help the the President. I tell you the Democrats would do anything to stop that from happening.
Report Post »ccr
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 1:11amThis Zogby poll is ridiculous! Heavily democratic. Of course, they want Cain or Perry to run!!
BLAZE…………….WHERE’s the STORY about the Baptist anti-Mormon preacher pulling the Religion card in his INTRODUCTION of RICK PERRY at the Values Voters Summit????
WHERE??? Perry can claim whatever he wants to ACT “guiltless”, but he knew. He knew. Listen to the end of the video where Perry is sooooooooooo appreciative of the great introduction and for “knocking it out of the park”! Perry’s ignorance is NOT credible in any way.
http://mittromneycentral.com/2011/10/07/is-rick-perry-intentionally-seeking-the-anti-mormon-vote/
Here’s Perry USING religion to PROMOTE himself politically. Perry’s dirty politics are NOT what we want in the WH!! His lies on Mitt’s book, his lies on his own stories (I’ve supported AZ immigration law, the hpv cancer victim……..both lies)……Perry’s integrity is sorely lacking.
Cain……….I like. But this poll……….NOT credible. And the Blaze……….where are the OTHER polls that bring some perspective to the facts?? Oh……….“the truth has no agenda”………must not apply here?>???
Report Post »wfo
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 1:18amUmmm… Mitt is just a white Obama. If you don’t believe it, watch…
Liberal Mitt’s Greatest Hits: What Romney Doesn’t Want You to See
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 1:30am@ CHAZMAN — actually, Herman Cain is much MORE “swarthy” than Romney — but Mr. Cain is certainly NOT more “smarmy” than Romney (who, in turn is less smarmy than Perry).
Also, Herman Cain dealt well with Larry O’Donnell, but Mr. Cain put in a virtuoso performance against a pack of MSNBC’s lefty pundits right after the Reagan Library debate. I don’t have the youtube link to it, but you folks might want to look it up.
Report Post »pamela kay
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:08amI do agree with you. I think the next few months will give us a better idea on where each candidate stands, and if they are willing to have the kahuna’s to hold their ground. We need a strong candidate and if Cain can bring it, he will have my vote.
Report Post »raiderglenn
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 3:15amOkie from Muskogee,
Your plan just won‘t work because it doesn’t take all factors into play… I’m a water plant operator. I moved from upstate NY where I got $35,000/year to the bay area in Cali where I make $110,000/year to do the same job. So the higher cost of living here is directing my pay to be much higher than in upstate NY… Should I still pay the same as a guy still there making so much less? No, because the buying power of my dollars here are less than his, that’s why I get so much more. My food costs more, my house costs more, my car insurance costs more, ect… however my total cost of living shown as a % (debt to income ratio) would be about the same.
So you see for me to pay the same in taxes as someone in a lower cost of living area I need to actually pay more dollars, but still the same % of my income as they do.
A flat tax with no loopholes would be the best thing to start with. Once EVERYONE is paying taxes (even if the guys making low income are paying small amounts) EVERYONE will take a lot more interest in what is being done with that money by the Govt.
As for your honesty charge, the man having a different take on the matter doesn’t make him dishonest unless you feel everyone MUST agree with you or they are liars…
Report Post »MichiganPatriot
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 7:55amThe only candidate that any American should vote for should be the one who holds the constitution closest to his policies and stands firm in upholding its original intent. Romney is so far from that he might as well be Obama. I do not conform to any party I look at what each candidate has to say. The only 3 that make any sense is Bachmann, Paul or Cain. The rest are weak and are easily compromised as Romney already has been. Perry is a bilderberg lackey. The others are not even worth mentioning. No one who introduces a socialist policy into law at the state or federal level will ever get my vote. America does not need more socialism we need constitutional rule end of story. The parties can all kiss my butt. Any American that trust a party to decide for them is just another useful idiot.
Report Post »MandM52
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 8:15amIf everyone thinks that Romney, AKA progressive lite, is the best choice, perhaps you should look again and read what Romney really stands for. Romney is the best candidate why? Because he is now considered an experienced politician? Whatever happened to citizen legislatures. Those people who served and then went back to ther respective professions? Romney and those like him are part of the problem and not part of the solution. Please get a clue before it is too late .
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 8:58amIm voting for anyone other than Obama, i like the fact Cain is an outsider, good pizza too!!!!
Report Post »libslayer
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 10:14amI see your point, however; this is a critical time in our Nations history and right now we need another Reagan and Herman Cain is the closest we’ll get to having another Reagan. He can beat Obama and get this Country back on the right track. I think a Cain/Romney ticket would be unbeatable.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 10:56am@Raider Glenn
It is not “my” plan, it is the Founders Plan and it is located in the Constitution. You are saying the founders are wrong and the Progressives and you are right. Do you not see that? How has the Progressive plan worked thus far?
What part of how much you make is irrelevant do you not understand? Whether you make 100k in a big city or 10k in a farm town, you both owe the Government the same. You both cost the Government the same to operate. Government is to see us as Americans only, not as 100k American over here and a 10k American over there and tax you differently. That’s discrimination. It would be the same as saying Government can tax the black man less than the white man or the fat man more then the skinny man. Progressives divide, remember.
Taxing by how much you make and progressively has led to our mess today. Continuing it is doing the same thing again expecting a different result, insanity.
Without knowing it you came and said the founders were liars. Their plan won’t work and YOUR PROGRESSIVE way is the right way. History has shown for 100 years now the Progressive plan of dividing does not work and leads to Government overspending and wanting more. Do yourself a favor, open a Constitution and read it. If you are a Progressive, just say so. Have a great day!
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 11:38amHERMAN CAIN WAS SAYING THAT THE ECONOMY WAS STRONG IN 2005, WHEN RON PAUL WAS WARNING US OF COLLAPSE.
HOW IN THE HECK DO YOU THINK THAT A GUY WHO NEVER SAW IT COMING, IS GOING TO HELP FIX IT?
Apparently Mr. Rocket Scientist/Federal Reserve lackey/Mathematician/Pizza guy couldn’t figure it out, but Ron Paul predicted it.
Don’t make another mistake America. PLEASE don’t get fooled again. Just because they present you with another puppet that is darker than the last one, don’t fall for it. “Nothing in politics happens by accident” FDR
“You could write a book just on how poor the coverage has been of the alleged housing bubble.” Herman Cain 2005
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jjoy
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 12:11pm@PAPPYPATRIOT
“If you cannot trust Mitt Romney”…
Sorry Pappy… romney is a liberal “ringer” that pretending to be “conservative” in order to win the nomination…
He has done nothing to earn our trust…
Report Post »jjoy
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 12:13pm“CAIN UP 20% OVER ROMNEY”
…fox “news” is still calling romney the “frontrunner”…
Report Post »MBridOKC
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 2:44pmCRUISEMATES…. With all due respect, your reasoning is the reason Conservatives keep losing. We do not in any way need a candidate that will “pull in the center”. This is what has happened to the Republican party over the last 30+ years. We need someone who will clearly and unapologetically convey the conservative philosophy. Reagan didn’t try to “pull in the center” or appeal to independants or any of that crap. Cain is gaining ground because this is what he is doing. The majority of this county is more in appeal of the conservative philosphy, individual responsibility and American Exceptionalism. People like yourself are the reason we lose, and I actually detest your comments. A true conservative does not give ground in order to gain “center” votes… “CENTER” is just another word to describe people who don’t know what they believe in…. A well articulated conservative message is the message that will bring those people in. The Conservative Message is the WINNING message and philosophy for America. “Center” is another excuse for mediocrity and compromise.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:08pm@TIMEJ31′s DIRTY SOCKS FOR PRESIDENT ! !
lol
Report Post »raiderglenn
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 5:27pmOkie from Muskogee,
I’m not calling anyone a liar. you are the one who puts it out there that if someone’s view isn’t the same as yours (or your view of the founders) is being dishonest (a liar).
The stuff you are talking is in theory very good; but in practical application, a fairy tale.
Do you think that we will have a 2/3 majority of both the house and senate after 2012? I don’t think so and that kills any dream you have of putting thru an amendment to do away with the income tax. Right now there are WAY too many people who don’t pay anything! So why would they want to change the fact that they get everything for nothing????
Change that so they all feel the pain of paying these taxes and you might build a nation that will be willing to do away with the income tax again.
All the Ron Paul supporters I know are the same in that regard… You all are RIGHT on how things should be in a perfect world. But none of you seem to realize that this isn’t (and won’t become in 1 election) a perfect world.
It took the progressives 100 years to get us to this point and it will take more than one election to get it fixed. It must be done a step at a time or the push back will make it imposable to ever get us back to where we need to go.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 6:44pmActually you are calling the Founders a liar. They setup taxation and it was right and non divisive. Progressives said the founders were wrong and convinced many like you these last 100 years to think their ideas were only plausible in an utopia when in fact it is the Progressives striving to form the utopia and you are championing their policy or scheme by saying as such.
The 16th amendment only allows Congress the power to tax how they want but does not guarantee it’s approval. Do you think either House will have a 2/3 majority to over ride a veto? The IRS can be structured however ordered to be since they are not part of the Constitution but simply an agency created.
I understand how far we have progressed and that we will not be back to how we were to be tomorrow. We will never reverse the progression until we begin tugging back. Simply taking baby progressive steps instead of big progressive steps only means we progress slower. We are still progressing.
The sooner more stand in truth and principle against progressives the sooner others begin to see truth and follow. The way to expose progressives is with truth, not taking baby steps with them. Enjoyed the conversation!
Report Post »raiderglenn
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 7:35pmAgain, I’m not calling ANYONE a liar… not you, not the founders, not anyone…
If I had a time machine that could one step us back to the fiscal policies of our founders in 1 step, I’d use it in a second. But that is not an option.
Taking steps backwards from where the progressives have taken us IS stepping in the right direction. The only thing we disagree about is how to get us where we both want to be, and how realistically our different plans are to work right now.
The “Overton window” works both ways. It dictated how fast they could take us away from the founding principles, but it also dictates how fast we can move ourselves back the other way. History shows that when you try too much, too fast the population can’t handle it and pushes back.
Anyway, agree this has been good talk.
God bless.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 8:48pmYeah, well he needs to explain his 999 plan. The way I figure it the poor will pay more and the rich will pay less. Without any details that’s about it. So I doubt his 999 plan would make it thru congress. I guess it’s time to be thinking about the impact of his plan….anyone want to enlighten the masses? Cause I went to his website and it is void of details. All of the economists are agreeing with me so far…and you only get two deductions, charity and those living in an Empowerment Zones (aka Ghetto)
I guess his 50k example that he mentioned was predicated on someone living in an empowerment zone?????
I pity those retired people…this plan needs to be discussed.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on October 9, 2011 at 12:35amAnd why not?
He is taking the war right to Obama were we have wanted this war to be fought. The GOP Ruling Class refuse to attack Obama be cause he is black and the GOP fears being called racist. The GOP will sit on their hands and allow our enemy to destroy our people and nation as long as no one calls them racist. Bouchman is the only other GOPer who has the balls to take the war to satan’s Oval Office too.
Report Post »IntransigentMind
Posted on October 9, 2011 at 1:39amThis is because Romney is a big freaking joke:
Report Post »http://markamerica.com/2011/10/09/mitt-romney-wont-get-my-vote/
V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 9, 2011 at 10:07amStunning truth…
Ron Paul is the Frontrunner.
#1.
Report Post »reddmann13
Posted on October 9, 2011 at 10:48amHerman is just what the doctor ordered. We dont need another “John McCain” to run against Obama and lose. Mitt will not do the tough things to get the United States of America back on her feet. In my opinion, all the other canidates just seem like they are trying to get promoted to President. We are going to need a President to be like Presidents Harding And Coolidge and cut the federal goverment by 50%. That is just my opinion. We can vote for whom ever we want to vote for and my vote is for Herman Cain. I know every Consevative canadate will be better than Obama, I just want to vote for someone that i really believe in!
Report Post »stopspendingourmoney
Posted on October 9, 2011 at 10:49pmThe problem I have with Herman Cain he is a former federal reserve chairman, and does not see the fed as a problem and does not think it needs to be audited, I find this strange, doesn’t anyone else think this is a problem?
Report Post »I am still with Ron Paul audit this corrupted private banking system we call the fed it is the core of all that is corrupt in Washington.
Ron Paul 2012 its time to restore America.
Pigpen
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 1:35amI live in a predominantly Mormon community, and I can’t find a single member of the LDS faith that DOES like Romney. And for everyone who is NOT a Mormon, let me tell you what every Mormon wants you to know: The Romneys are NOT typical Mormons. They most definitely are NOT those same Mormons who most Americans refer to as that “nice family down the street that keeps inviting us to Church and knows a lot about canning their own food.” The Romneys are firmly entrenched in the political class. And Mitt is a technocrat, card-carrying member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission. NO WAY I would ever vote for him just because he is a Mormon and therefore presumed to be conservative.
Report Post »slimster
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 1:37amlets see, should we vote for a lawyer, an ex fed reserve chief employee or the dr. who delivered more than 4000 babies? Romney/Cain/Ron Paul…
Report Post »dtbox
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:20pmHe seems like a good man. I’d vote for him. But, I fear for him. If he becomes the nominee, the left and the press are going to do terrible things to him. There is nothing more frightening to them than African-American conservatives.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:27pmI’m not sure how that would play out. A sustained attack on Justice Thomas is one thing. But against a man who can, and WILL, fight back I think the tactic will backfire. Only ten to fiften percent of blacks would need to be turned off by such a campaign of smearing him to fundamentally change the racial dynamics of the parties. If the Democrats begin to lose their lock, ever so slightly, on the black vote that would be a sea change, a political tsunami.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:41pmThat’s just it islesfordian,
They treat blacks like this subhuman, super-cohesive voting block that cannot think for itself. If I were black this is the biggest thing that would make me jump their ship. All the race-baiting and using blacks as pawns in the game. You are 100% right, a concerted attack on Cain implying any kind of racial issue will cause blacks to jump to his side in a tsunami they cannot imagine.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 9:05pmI’m more afraid of his tax plan that adds 9% on all purchases – we know how quickly that will become 20% when the Dems once again control the government – and his foreign policy ‘doctrine’ that will clearly name who America‘s ’friends and enemies’ are. I’ve also yet to hear how he will reduce the size of government. And since he’s a friend of the Fed, I expect a QE 3, 4, 5, 6….
Report Post »C.Gallicchio
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 11:39pm@mad hatter/ Maybe you should go read Dr.Ron Paul’s speech at the Value Voter straw poll . thepage.time.com/2011/10/08/paul-values-voter-summit-transcript/
Report Post »capecodsully
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:20pmNothing “stunning” about it. He’s smart, capable, moral. Americans trust him. Everything that has been lacking in politics, Americans can find in Herman Cain.
Report Post »Champ
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:23pmI’ve been a Herman Cain supporter for a long time. Pretty much since he started his exploratory committee (that was back in January). Being an Iowan, we get a lot of attention from presidential candidates. I didn’t go to the Ames straw poll, but I did throw a kernel of corn in his jar at the Iowa State Fair. :) I watched my wife stand there in front of all the other candidate’s jars. She was undecided at the time, so she just threw hers in Cain’s jar also.
I’m so excited for the idea that we could see someone who had success in the private sector (turning around Burger King and Godfather’s Pizza) have a shot at implementing his problem solving skills to fix the Federal Gov’t. It doesn’t hurt that his Masters degree is in Computer Science – same as me except mine was a BS, and a Masters.
Report Post »PoliticalJunkieToo
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 5:19pmshanemmcc
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:33pm
Romney wants to start a trade war with China through Executive Order on his first day in office. That is the scariest foreign policy I’ve heard yet. I may start calling him an isolationist now since he is proposing protectionist foreign policy (although the title would only be half correct). He has also hired Bush’s economic team and foreign policy team. I tend to doubt that people want to vote in another Bush
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If this is true about Romney and China – THAT would be the ONLY REASON I would vote for him. Screw China.
I …..FEAR …..Romney because as Governor HE ONLY APPOINTED LIBERAL JUDGES!!! We don’t need another LIBERAL JUDGE IN THE SUPREME COURT or anywhere in our federal system.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 9:28pmYou trust a man whose tax plan increases taxes and doesn’t do away with the IRS? You trust a man who has no problem with the Fed, being a Fed man himself? You trust a man whose foreign policy doctrine will name America‘s ’friends and enemies’? You trust a man who doesn’t know the difference between the Declaration of Independance and the Constitution? You trust a man who will throw away the 2nd Amendment and allow states to control/regulate gun ownership?
Report Post »The government is not and was never meant to be a business. It may ‘employ’ people, but it doesn’t generate profits, only debt. You can not run the government like a business.
Ron Paul is the only candidate who will restore American principles to what our founders envisioned them to be. He has proven his love of this country by writing legislation that would restore American principles. Legislation includes getting the US out of the UN and the UN out of America. He has written a Constitutional Amendment stating US citizens are those born of US parents or people whose allegiance is with America. Paul believes in States rights as per the 10th Amendment and that States should regulate drug and marriage laws, not the Fed Gov. Do you have any idea how much money would be saved if the ‘war on drugs’ was left to the States and not the Fed Gov? The cost this year alone will amount to at least 23 BILLION.
Cain supporters are sheep being led to the slaughter. VET HIM BEFORE YOU MAKE A HUGE MISTAKE!
Ron Paul 2012
johnpaulkuchtajr
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:20pmIn my neck of the woods, we’re telling folks to….
BEAT OBAMA WITH A CAIN IN 2012!
Go ahead, use it, I got a million of ‘em!
Report Post »mauijonny
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:42pmLol!
Report Post »Fantastic Four
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:23pmyeahhhhh!!!! or like doward dean YEEEE HAAWWWW!
Report Post »Rajabear1
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:37pmThank you, Sir. I will use it, but I’ll let it be known it is once again another witty conservative Blazer that came up with it. Ya know that whole ‘give credit where credit is due’ thing. Man, you guys are always quick witted w/o being nasty like the libs are. Somehow, that passes for funny with them.
Report Post »truthseekerusa
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:37pmBeen donating to Cain since I first heard him speak and then learned about the history of his life. I send $10 every time it looks like I have that extra in my budget from careful grocery shopping.
Cain is living proof that the American Dream still lives and is an example to every young person that is willing to work hard for what they believe in, that this is still the land of opportunity for those who are willing to climb the ladder of success, one rung at a time.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 12:50pmThanks for the license to use it because I LIKE it!
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Claw1951
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:19pmI’m in!! Sending contribution to the Cain team today!!
Report Post »timej31
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:26pmJust gave $50!!
Report Post »vichoff
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 6:08pmJust sent in mine!
Report Post »ILUVAMERICA
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 6:39pmLiars
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:19pmGame changer?
Report Post »Banter
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:05pmThe game changer was Palin. With her out, you may be correct about Cain. I may have to change my avatar.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:52pmI fully expect Sarah to be out front on the issues. She’ll be a great asset after the nomination, and she might even lend her support BEFORE the nomination.
Report Post »Banter
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 5:03pmFully agree. I think she will be instrumental in getting the right candidates elected, just like in Nov. She is and will remain a force.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:19pmI do not like polls nor do I put much stock in them.
That said, they are a useful indication of trends and the one here is entertainingly informative! Check out Perry’s tailspin!!! Romney and Paul are fairly flat straight across, I believe this is a good indication. Cain took first Bachmann and then Perry’s voters. I believe he represents the Tea party ideals and he will continue to climb now that the field is all but set.
Report Post »Docrow
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:46pmThe only polls that counts are the ones taken at the ballot box on election day.
Report Post »vichoff
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 6:13pmTrue that is the only poll that elects. However, polls do have a funny way of raising money and getting interviews. So this is huge for CAIN! Love it and looking forward to riding the Cain Train to the ballot box!
Report Post »ILUVAMERICA
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 6:40pmTo Bad Our Votes Don’t Really Count
Report Post »dutchy
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:19pmCain for President!!
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:17pmSadly, ZOGBY has never been that accurate. Not to say that the PEW Polls are that accurate either but they have Romney at 22%, Perry at 17%, and Cain at 13%. So it all depends on the Poll. Though Cain needs some more boosts when he can get them. He and Romney get along the best out of all of the candidates.
And if you want to see someone slam Obama in a speech, look to Romney’s speech this morning… If you want to see a strong Foreign Policy look at Romney’s speech today. And watch the military cadts go crazy over Romney’s attacks on Obama. They loved every minute of those attacks by Romney: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/oct/romney_foreign_policy.html
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:23pmEven if you take Zogby as being less accurate, he still shows Cain rising rapidly. So translate Zogby’s percentage rise for Cain to other polls and we should see some substantial improvement for Cain.
Report Post »BSdetector
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:31pmIf you want a good speech, then either Romney or Obama will do.
Report Post »If you want to creep ever closer to Socialism/Communism, then either will do.
If you want someone to turn this country around, then neither will do.
KTsayz
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 9:00pmI was impressed until he started detailing what he would do. Work with the UN? The evil entity started by communists to spread communism? Set up military camps outside of countries he deems troubling? If that isn’t a threatening action nothing is. Beef up the military industrial complex?
I don’t think so. And Cain’s foreign policy ideas are even worse! His ‘Cain Doctrine’ is to clarify American’s friends and enemies!!!!!
Only Ron Paul takes the correct foreign policy stance and it mirror’s that of George Washinton who said in 1796:
Report Post »“The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign Nations is extending our commercial relations to have have with them as little political connection as possibel. So far as we have already formed engagement let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop.
‘Tis our true policy to steer clear of permanent Alliances with any portion of the foreign world. So far, I mean, as we are now at liberty to do it, for let me not be understood as capable of patronizing infidelity to existing engagements (I hold the maxim – that honesty is always the best policy). I repeat it therefore, let those engagements be observed in their genuine sense. But in my opinion, it is unnecessary and would be unwise to extend them.
Taking care always to keep ourselves, by suitable establishments, on a respectably defensive posture, we may safely trust to temporary alliances for extraordinary emergencies.”
qpwillie
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:16pmGet ‘em Herman!!!!!
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:21pmCain is Able baaaaaaaby!
Polls are obviously often wrong and subjective to phrasing of the questions, but Cain is riding the crest of a wave that’s going to sweep communism out with the power of the surge.
I hope he selects either Ron Paul or Gingrich as his running mate.
Report Post »Delete the Elite
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:34pm@THE10THAMENDMENT
Report Post »He would never choose Paul. Ron would audit him and his bankster buddies.
Fantastic Four
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:12pmit’s our time to RAISE “Cain”……..Imagine Herman schoolin‘ O’bama old school style it will be classic.
Report Post »resme
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:09pmYa, Cain is just another candidate to help the bankers. Can you say vat tax?
Report Post »pairadice3007
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:16pmOhhhhh, so NOW online polls matter… lol
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:20pmNot really. The proof is in the trends and not the individual numbers.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:20pmWhere do you see an internet poll? This is the results from a Zogby poll.
Report Post »Delete the Elite
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:37pmOf course polls matter now. LOL, hypocrits.
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:15pmCain / West…….Cain / Rubio…..sounds good to me. Finally we will have our first black President.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:21pmI do not think West or rubio will run. I love West, and would pick him for president over anyone but Palin, but I do not think he would be ideal as VP on Cain’s ticket. Like it or not the reality is two black men would cost too many votes.
Report Post »JohnGaltSpeaks
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:23pmAs much as I would love to see those tickets, West and Rubio are both freshman to the House and Senate and most likely would decline any offer from any candidate to be the VP – but I have been wrong before.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:24pmI think West is a good mind, but he’s a military mind and a huge backer of the Patriot Act, and for deploying the Military in Police actions. Not a good thing. He’s useful in Congress, but would be extraordinarily divisive as a National Policy voice.
Report Post »timej31
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:28pmI want a strong black man with a totally black cabinet!!!!
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:36pmA VP pick is usually made to balance the ticket. Pick someone who has qualities the other lacks. Cain should pick an experienced politician. Newt might be a bridge too far. I think Santorum would be great. Ryan might work, ut he might not want to run. Sen. Thune would be excelent.
Report Post »Delete the Elite
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:38pmHerman strongly backed the patriot act too.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 5:37pmCain backed Paul on the killing of al-alwaki being unconstitutional — then backtracked. Wonder who “got to him?”
Report Post »resme
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:10pmAll cain does is back track, Another candidate saying what you want to hear.
Report Post »welovetheUSA
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:14pmCain is saying all the right things, this is true……..we have 14 months to go, One thing I do know for sure……..Obama will never be re-elected reguardless of whos ahead in the polls in the next 14 months.
Report Post »western_red
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:51pmProblem is he’s trying “Wag the Dog” with his support of commies protesting all over the country. And for those Bush haters, what would happen if the US got hit hard by terrorists before the election? hmmm?
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 12:01am‘Saying all the rights things’ he knows sheeple want to hear. There is no way a true TEA Partier would fall for this guy. Taxed Enough Already means taxed enough already. What honest, true, patriotic TEA Partier would condone a brand new national tax of 9% – that we all know will be raised down the line – on top of stae and local taxes? I cannot understand what the hoopla is all about. Cain is McCain without the ‘Mc’.
Report Post »kevinthewriter
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:14pmI can’t wait to see Cain go head to head with Osucka in a debate.
Report Post »capecodsully
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:23pmMan vs boy, sure to be entertaining.
Report Post »daniel73
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:13pmyou ask me who i would vote for today and i would say Mr.Cain as my vote..
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:19pmLIBERAL THOUGHT: “But he is a racist…wait….he’s black…wait…. he’s against advancement of colored people…wait…he makes sense… yes, that’s it… bash him because he makes sense…wait…..”
Report Post »liriadavila
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:12pmHerman Cain is not a politician; that’s why people like him
Report Post »Chappy123
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:52pmTime to elect a REAL BUSINESS MAN. Not another POLITITION. We all see what polution’s have done.
YES WE CAIN!
Report Post »western_red
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:56pmSorta what successful businesses(like the NFL) do: hire the guy who you feel you can trust, and also knows his job as well, or better, than the next alternative, no matter whether he’s green, yellow, white or purple.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 5:02pmAnd he isn’t a freaking lawyer! But most of all he isn’t Obama
Report Post »oitsugina
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:12pmYay!
Report Post »machgun
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:10pmha! Take that geogette mosbacher
Report Post »Grady Curve
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:09pmI guess you cant use the word bull **** on this site ????
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:08pmY’all know about Cain though, he worked at Burger King at one time! In fact, he ran a whole chain of them! So y’all know what that makes him, right?
A buildaburger!
Alll ABOARD! Hahahaahaha, ride the Cain Train!
Report Post »trueblueday
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:26pmOhhh yeaaahhh!
Report Post »Delete the Elite
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:40pmlol, that was pretty funny.
Report Post »M13
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:05pmThat’s awesome. Hahahahahahahah
Report Post »Grady Curve
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:07pmI live here in Atlanta and have heard his message loud and clear… He IS THE NO ******** person we need to get us back on track… Lets get him in there and END the REIGN of TERROR from these life long political elitist and the Marxist who currently has invaded our country…
Report Post »bonnie00000
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:07pmat the moment i would vote for Cain. or bauchman
Report Post »Bluefish49
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:13pmThis scares the Dems to death…..Happy Halloween
Report Post »4freedomssake
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 12:04amBachmann/Cain or Cain/Bachmann would be my choice. They are both real!
Report Post »I shudder at the thought that Cain might pick Gingrich, as he suggested in the debate. Gingrich is already hinting that he would accept. Gingrich has already thrown Paul Ryan and every Republican House member under the bus, he is Joe Biden redux. Gingrich as VP might sink a Cain candidacy, he is so disliked by right and left and middle.
I also have reservations about this poll, tho I like the numbers.
I was a Romney supporter in 2008, before Dem/ObamaCare brought attention to RomneyCare.
OBTW, we ought to refer to it as Dem/ObamaCare to include all the Dem snakes who voted for it against the wishes of the majority!
Annie Fields
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:05pmI’ve had a “Send Herman Cain a Check” link up on my blog for MONTHS now – GO CLICK IT! You can even set up recurring donations – even if it’s just $10 every payday – HELP HIM!
http://www.anniefields.com/blog
Report Post »trueblueday
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:28pmGreat, Annie. I was just going to look for a link… thanks
Report Post »Bluefish49
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:03pmCain and Rubio in 2012…..the dream team…as in “The American Dream Team”
Report Post »vichoff
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:47pmABSOLUTELY! Romney’s past support on many issues is a complete “political” turnaround designed to pull in the “base” He will then swing back to a say what it takes depending on the audience….just like Obama did. Cain is the main…add Rubio and they are undefeatable!
Report Post »Ferrarello
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:03pmThe Cain Train is picking up steam. Yes we Cain !
Report Post »Just_One
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 5:43pmHA! That’s great. “Yes we Cain”! I am stealing this and putting it everywhere.
Report Post »football lady
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 9:16amAnd let’s RAISE SOME CAIN!
Report Post »gracentruth
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 6:52pmAmen.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:30pmHow about a Cain/Paul ticket? I never really considered that till someone on page 1 posted it.
Ideally, I love the idea, I think they are a great balance. Paul would keep any president straight though. But I do not think it would win voters.
Report Post »Delete the Elite
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 3:44pmOr a Paul/Cain ticket! That way when Paul audits the Fed, he can rub Cain’s nose in the books, like a puppy that just pooped on the carpet.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 5:40pmEveryone knows that I’m a Ron Paul fan, but I‘m cheering on Herman Cain that HE’S ahead of the other GOP candidates (that I didn’t think much of AT ALL).
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