Suspect in Horrific Norwegian Attacks Tied to ‘Right-Wing Extremist Groups’
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A terrible attack shook the country of Norway early Friday morning. Police have linked one man to both the bombing of government buildings in Oslo and the shooting of numerous young people at a summer camp on a nearby island.
So what do we know about the suspect?
TV2, which is Norway’s largest broadcaster, has identified the suspect as 32-year-old Anders Behring Breivik. He’s at least 6 ft tall and blonde (and partially balding). TV2 describes him as a member of “right-wing extremist groups in eastern Norway.” Norwegian Justice Minister Knut Storberget confirmed the identification in London’s Telegraph.
The suspect’s name and age match the identity of the only director of a company called Breivik Geofarm, a business that works to grow various crops and reportedly employs almost 800 individuals.
The Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet reported that he’s been living in Oslo. It said authorities stormed the suspect’s home after Friday’s attacks:
“Police officers in protective gear armed with machine guns arrived at 23:45 p.m. at a residential building in Oslo,” the report says. “A 32-year-old man has been arrested in two terrorist attacks today in Oslo and Utoya, Dagbladet has learned that the man has been living at that address.”
We also have an eyewitness account: The Toronto Star interviewed one young woman who was so close to the suspect she said she could hear his breathing between shots.
15-year-old Elise (whose last name is omitted in the report at the request of her father) told The Star the suspect was dressed up as a police officer. Not knowing where the first shots came from she said she was comforted by his presence at first. Fear quickly took hold after she realized the “police officer” was the one firing the shots and reportedly killed people in front of her eyes.
So far, the attacks have killed at least 20 people. This has been the worst violence in Norway, the home of the Nobel Peace Prize, since World War II.






















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Brasil2520
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:41amThe same thing was said about Tim McVeigh, that he was in a “right-wing” group.
At the end I think they said he only went to one meeting, and that he was more of a militia movement sympathizer than a real member.
The bottom line is because of a few nuts like McVeigh, we are becoming more like London with more and more camera’s, and the average person pay’s the price with airport security hassles, stress . . .
Report Post »Miami
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:47amHello
European is not anything like American Conservatives. Socialism is the middle, Communism or National Socialism being their extremes and Capitalism being a dirty word in their understanding.
More than likely he is a Nazi also known as a National Socialist
Report Post »Marci
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:01amDidn’t see any proof that he was “right wing” in that article. Either way–the guy is insane and unless he is from the U.S. , the left better not waste their time trying to brand the rest of us. Also, someone else said it best–Timothy McVeigh was not right wing either. Anarchist. Big difference.
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:04amThey always try and say right-wing, but nine times of ten, it seems, they’re disappointed to find it was a left-winger or an Islam extremist. If he’s not left, he’s right, right? Wrong!
Report Post »Whatever he is, he’s a nut.
Brasil2520
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:07amTo MIAMI
I remember you, you got some balls to say “Hello”
Report Post »Your the Cuban that a few months ago kept removing my comments, so since you like to remove comments I guess that makes you a communist, right comrade !
HairOfTheDogSob
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:41amRight Wing Extremist…who doesnt like muslims…thats a big group…
Report Post »Zer0
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 4:35amI agree with Miami…probably a NAZI…..at any rate NAZI, Communist, Islamic extremist….doesn’t matter in the end. I hope they have the death penalty in Norway.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 5:37amdon’t you all see we are all terrorist
Report Post »at least the plan is too label us all as terrorist
and Nazi’s anyone who might oppose the one world
govt. or the endless wars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWwrEEP8EBk
tower7femacamp
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 5:46amThe FBI has told Utah lawyer Jesse Trentadue it cannot find videotapes from the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing and will not continue to look for them. Trentadue sued the FBI and the CIA in an effort to get video taken by exterior cameras on the Murrah building and dashboard camera video from the Oklahoma Highway Patrol’s arrest of Timothy McVeigh, who was executed after a conviction in the case.
Trentadue says the tapes will prove others were involved in the plot that resulted in the death of 168 people.
The FBI claims electronic databases and searches of FBI crime labs, evidence centers and a warehouse in Oklahoma City have not turned up the records. The FBI asserts continuing the search would be “unreasonably burdensome” and could take a single staff person more than 18 months to conduct, according to court papers.
The FBI explanation is “nothing but more of the same institutionalized dishonesty, deception and disrespect for the Constitution,
Report Post »http://www.infowars.com/fbi-claims-oklahoma-city-bombing-tapes-missing/
Thomas
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 6:18amI would like them to define a right wing extremist group? Every time they use that kind of language later on you find out how really they are really based upon left wing ideas. Hitler was a left wing socialist, environmentalist, left wing wacko and yet we are always hear the Nazis called right wing. Its a lie.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 6:47amyep, sure, uhuh, just had to be right-wing. at least they didn’t say he was a conservative and a christian.
altmanblaudio
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 6:49amMiami is correct. What is right wing and left wing across the pond is completely different than here. Just like our measurement system, economic system, our plug outlets and how we tell how friggin’ hot it is. But what really bothers me is that I don‘t care what group he’s from at the most I would like to know why and if you can’t tell me that then no need for the story. And if we can‘t find that out before he roasts then oh well I won’t lose any sleep.
Report Post »BIGJAYINPA
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 7:00amRight Wing, Left Wing–who gets to decide which wing you belong to?? Hitler was a socialist yet Nazis are always right wing. Stalin and Mao were communist mass muderers yet they are called left wing. IF this yoyo is the sole(?) player in this tragedy he is one very resourceful dude. Able to amass the matierials to build a carbomb, park that carbomb in front(??!!??) of the Primeministers building without arousing suspicion. He then travels out of the city to an ISLAND(?) dons a police uniform, gains acess to the island where he alone proceeds to shoot 84 people and then get off of the island. He is arrested AT HIS HOME by the police after they somehow figure out it was him that did the deed. There are way too many loose ends here for me to decide I’ve heard enough. Yes I was one of those who immediately jumped on the MUSLIM DID IT bandwagon. I do not take back anything I’ve said about Muslim Extremists, just because they may not be involved here does not make them any less dangerous. I still belive we are entering strange and dark times and I would not be surprised to find Good Ole Spooky Dude Soros crouching in the center of this web. I will be watching with great interest how the Lame Stream Media spins this over the next few days, and never forget–WATCH THE OTHER HAND–Odumbo is still trying to wreck our economy under the guise of the debt ceiling. As I said in other posts..I will be watching out for myself. Leave me alone, I will leave you alone…Just sayi
Report Post »Mango Mangone
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 7:01amApparently this is the “middle aged white man” Janet Napolitano warned us about. He obviously had a gun, did he also have a Bible?
Report Post »nysparkie
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 7:44amThey send the same thing about Randy Weaver before Ruby Ridge. He attended one White Supremacist meeting, didn’t like it and never attended another. ATF trumped up a bunch of lies, entrapped the man by illegally asking for a shotgun to be cut-offed too short. Then went after him. US Marshall’s murdered his 14 year old boy. FBI Sniper Lon Horiuchi then murders Weaver’s wife while she is holding a infant in her arms. FBI altered on scene, their own Use of Force Policy, to shoot to kill on site anyone with a firearm on person. Weaver does like 90 days and wins a law suit for 3 million. Nothing except termination of employment for any Federal Employee who murdered anyone.
Report Post »One US Marshall was killed in the beginning of event by Weaver’s 14 year old son or a family friend. Don’t remember which. Marshall shot the kids dog when it was barking at him giving away his hidden position. Kid or friend don’t know what is what so they shoot into the bush hitting the Marshall. Idiot agent.
Lesterp
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 7:58amThey always start with Islamic terrorists or right wing fanatic. It is almost always NOT a right wing extremist! Time will tell but my money is on “nut job”.
Report Post »bearfoothillbilly
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:00amMiami
I don’t agree, all country’s have laws and rules for living in them. If your country thanks that Hitler was right wing and another country thank the opposite, then look at history and that will tell you the truth. And no mater how you try to skew the answer the truth will always be the truth no mater wear on GODs green earth you are.
Just because Europe is basically Socialist dose not make Socialism of any kind right wing. If Europe it to blind to see that than thy are the ones blinded no we conservatives.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:04am@Miami
Any who has watched Glenn will agree with you. I remember the train tracks explanation. The government here would like us to believe that National Socialism is the extreme right, but that’s a European political view, not us.
Report Post »Deuteronomy22
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:09amI wonder if he ever poted his right wing hate on here. I’ve seen too many veiled statements, by those with military type screen names especially, regarding murdering liberals here that it is a possibility a Tea Party mentality was responsible.
Report Post »Devil Dog 7175
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:42am“Right Wing” has a different meaning in that part of the world.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:55amYou mentioned McVeigh; while he was most likely involved in the OKC bombing, I think it’s pretty evident by now that he was not alone. Why was all the camera evidence on nearby buildings confiscated immediately and has never showed up? If there is nothing to hide, would not the feds allow that video evidence to be available?
Likewise, the attack on the Pentagon on 9/11 — do the feds expect intelligent people to believe that there is no video evidence of the plane that allegedly hit the Pentagon – one of the most secure buildings in the US and there was only 1 camera with [non]evidence of a plane hitting it? I believe it was stated there were 80 some cameras on/around the Pentagon that, again, where confiscated immedately by the feds after this event and have never been made available. Why?
Something is very, very rotten in Washington.
Report Post »Ronko
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:55amI don’t think it matters what wing he is, he’s a murderer and that right there is all I need to know.
Report Post »Dustoff
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:06amJezzz you ever read. He was a loner with just one other person helping him. He belonged to NO group.
Report Post »thecrow
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:09amhttp://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/valor/
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:11amEU has gone full circle on the right left thangie to the point that it is confusing to discern the truth about these nut cases.
Either way, STAY CHILL and keep our nation from doing the same.
Report Post »The Big Pickle
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:46amNot to condone his actions but the attack was on the effectively Marxist Norwegian govt who flood Norway with migrants.
The attack on the youth camp was it seems a secondary target after an assassination attempt on the PM (who was due on the island)
The youth camp was a political camp to groom future multicultural politicians to open Norway up to more non White thrid world immigrants.
My guess is that multiculturism drove this White human insane.
Report Post »junkmaninohio
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:51amEver think maybe he was a member of a LEFT WING group?
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:01amTo OLD WHITE GUY: Uh, actually yes they are starting to call him a conservative, christian…predictable, isn’t it?
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:05amSeveral points to consider given the facts that the National Media is entirely under Jewish control, there is clearly a plan taking us toward a Global Gov’t supplanting our very own Constitution which should be punishable by death, and given the fact that our own unconstitutional DHS is trying to classify Patriots as terrorists:
1. The upper echelon of the Norwegian Gov’t is on record voicing very strong anti-Israel sentiment even to the point of encouraging boycotts of Israeli goods.
2. Norway while critical of Jewish slaughter practices passed laws condemning it even before Hitler did and I believe they are still in effect.
3. Mossad motto: By way of deception thou shall make war.
4. The immediate emphasis on his blond hair and non Arab ethnicity. It’s as if the Media wants this really bad.
5. He attacks the Left with terrorism including bombs and guns providing more excuses for tighter security there and abroad.
6. He creates a Face Book page 3 days prior claiming that he is Right Wing and a Fundamentalist Christian. He lists two Conspiracy books as his favorite books including 1984.. lol
7. Finally he’s taken alive.
Like the aim of Janet and the DHS, worldwide Gov’ts are looking for reasons or excuses to further clamp down on personal liberties and freedom.
Bottom line is that the official story thus far is very suspect.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:13amnysparkie: Given the recent posting on the Blaze of the lunatic cop in Ohio threatening to fill a US citizen with bullets for being “stupid” as a result of a misunderstanding over a permit, one can only assume that the FBI, ATF, and other Police agencies have their fair share of these types. That’s why we are supposed to be a Nation of laws but some of these agencies have simple gone rogue. Look no further than the recent Fast and Furious case!
Oh how we need someone like Ron Paul in the White House!
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:25amDo a majority of people nowadays even understand what a “right-winger” is???
Apparently not.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:25amThe Big Pickle: Your explanation could very well be the case. Sooner or later people are going to have to take a stand. As awful and dreadful as killing the supposed innocent is there comes a time where you either conquer or be conquered. Glenn Beck is playing the bumbling fool in trying to persuade people that if we all pretend to be Gandhi and the Media’s construct of MLK, then everything will be ok. It is not going to be ok. If we in America intend to maintain a mostly White Christian Constitutional Republic where life freedom and independence are the aims, then we are going to have to fight for it. And no there is no possible way for a Multicultural society to ever achieve those aims.
This guy could have very well been laying down the gauntlet. A conspiracy to flood your Nation like here in America with millions of third world immigrants among many other egregious acts leading to the creation of a more Global Gov’t is an act of War in my opinion. Bottom line sooner or later we are going to have to fight for our Freedom because there are dark forces working against us.
Report Post »rodertrudis
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:30pmAttention, MIAMI:
MORONIC STATEMENT FROM THE IGNORANT: “….Capitalism being a dirty word in their understanding.”
GERMANY HAS THE FOURTH LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD; THE THIRD LARGEST IN EXPORTS. FRANCE’S AIRBUS, JANUARY THIS YEAR, SIGNED THE LARGEST CONTRACT IN COMMERCIAL AVIATION HISTORY;
I could list hundreds of examples which put the LIE to your statement that Capitalism is a dirty word in Europe. The fact is, you don‘t what the hell you’re talking about. Your really ought to just STFU and go climb back into that black hole of ignorance you crawled out of.
Report Post »Steal Your Face
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:30pmMcVeigh was anti-government, depending on what spectrum one employs, that is the ABSURD extreme end of what we refer to as right-wing (on the American spectrum). Anarchist? maybe, but definitely delusional and clearly homicidal. Somehow our cousins across the pond adopted the view that national socialism is somehow associated with the American right. It seems that any opposition to blind adherence to the all knowing, all powerful, all compassionate state is now the extreme right….welcome to 1984, someone shouldve told our friendly government minders that it was a warning, not an instruction manual.
Its irresponsible and agenda driven journalism (in my humble opinion) to associate a shooter with a political mindset; fringe notwithstanding, period. Especially before the victims are even cold. I live in Pittsburgh, where 3 city officers were killed by a gunman a few years ago. Beck, Hannity, Rush etc were all listed as being motivations for the shooters mindsets. How bout, hes an a$$40le, who might think x, y, z but thats not why people are dead. The SHOOTER is why they are dead.
Report Post »Miami
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 4:28pmBrasil2520
I‘ve never removed anyone’s comment nor would I, ignorance out‘s it’s self
Report Post »Miami
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 4:38pmbearfoothillbilly
Hello
It’s not American version of left or right but the European which the European newscaster is commenting on. This maybe hard for you to grasp but they do not see the world through the American point of view.
Our Conservative is not even part of the conversation.
Report Post »jorge_washington
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:11pm“I would like them to define a right wing extremist group?”
People from the social economical background.
People from the same religion.
People from the same political group.
People that call any a person who disagrees with their political and religious ideology, a communist, socialist, Nazi, a troop hater, America hater, a threat to America and the like.
People that protest a president 3 month into office yet never once raised the voice in protest to the previous administration who happen to be of the same political persuasion as they.
People who protest against a president a few month in office by carrying signs showing that leader as a Hilter, a Nazi, a voodoo doctor, a monkey and the like.
Shoot out the offices of their political opponents.
HOW”S TAKING BACK “OUR” COUNTRY WORKING OUT FOR YOU?
Questioning with BOLDNESS
Report Post »Uranium Wedge
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:47amThis guy just looks like he wasn’t able to “get any”.
Report Post »He should have come to my place. I would have taxed his ass six ways from sunday.
gentugo
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 8:47amCommunism and National Socialism are both to the left. For years the Biased media has been pushing the idea that nazi’s are right wing conservatives. Not true. Nazi’s are socialists one step removed from communists. The media and the Liberals here in America will use this clown as another excuse to demonize conservatives, the Tea Party and Law abiding gun owners. They will get their one world government one way or another. Now those loyal to the constituion are the terrorists and the terrorists are the government, go figure.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 11:48amPeople keep comparing him to McViegh. McViegh saw ATF agents shoot an incendiary device into the branch Davidon compound and burn 52 citizen to death over legal weapons purchases. He tried to tell everyone what he saw no one would listen. Two years after oklahoma it came out that indeed a incendiary device was unaccounted for after the stand off. Why Mcviegh actions were unforgivable they were the actions of a man against a wall.
Report Post »This man had more than half of Europe already knowing about his complaint,He77 the German PM. JUST CAME OUT RECENTLY AND SAID multiculturalism isn’t going to work on a group that has no intent of become part of the culture,She was referencing the islamist within her country.
bearfoothillbilly
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:39amIsn’t it amazing how the media will always come to the conclusion that a deranged individual who sloters a bunch of innocent people must be a Right-Wing Extremist.
Thou out recent history, all maniacs wear liberal, socialist, or Muslim. The history of violence in the world is almost always perpetrated by the left. Yet the media will always clame the right did it or that the prep, was some how linked to the right. Look at the shooting in Arizona, the press jumped to the conclusion that the shooter was a right wing not job only to have to eat their word later when it came out that he was a strong lefty.
History proves that conservatives are not mad dog killers just wimpy do nothing till you get in their faces then thy fight hard till thy win. Then thy will always be the first to help their attackers rebuild their lives.
ATTENTION LEFTIST MEDIA TYPES: Try reading history for a change and stop rewriting it to suite you socialist agenda.
Report Post »Veritatis Dicentis
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:12amIn Europe, a Right Wing Extremist would be like a NAZI. They use different terms than Americans do
Report Post »bearfoothillbilly
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:27amSorry but I only go by truth not leftist jargon. The Nazis wear leftist and I don’t care what the European socialist do to bent words so thy can make the darkest time in world history seem to be a right-wing event. It can not change the truth of what thy wear and are. You want a one world government then lets have truth about history and not spin to make socialist feel better about them self’s.
Only the truth can set you free. With out truth you get Europe and the Ussr, china, n. Korea. Ect.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 5:41amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKsQKc2eP-8&feature=related
Report Post »bearfoothillbilly
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 6:02amI have to say it, the term “Right – Wing” is a term that the left came up with to denigrate any one who is conservative. Their is no “Right – Wing” as their is no “Left – Wing”
Their is only Conservative and Liberal (Progressive, socialists, Marxist, communist, as well as many other titles used to cover up what thy really are and confuse the uneducated.) We must stop letting the left control our actions by mincing words and hiding behind negative nouns used to describe the right.
What say you
Report Post »spikebu
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 6:19amNazi’s were actually left wing.
Report Post »spikebu
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 7:10amIt’s impossible to see politics when you see all the dead. They were so young! I cannot comprehend the loss. It is truly unimaginable. Norway, you are in our prayers. I still don’t understand how someone like this can exist. Why did he go after children? If he wanted to make a point, he failed. I don’t get it. Why kids?
Report Post »bearfoothillbilly
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 7:34amspikebu To answer your question. Maniacs always go after the easy targets like children, elderly and those who can not defend their self. People like this shooter are not even human only animals on two legs. Regardless of their appearance; this type of activist is what brings hatred to what ever group their with.
Report Post »And it is not a mental disorder. A killer of this magnitude is thought to be this way by others. A simple ghoul like Ed Gine would be mentally deranged. But to kill so many at one time (out side of a full scale war) takes a person who knows what he or she is doing and has the mental state to fallow a plane.
This was not a lone gunman.
audaxrex
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:15am@Veritatis Dicentis :” In Europe, a Right Wing Extremist would be like a NAZI. They use different terms than Americans do”. No, the terms are the same – tho’ alternates might include KKK Tea-party John-Birch bigots.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:18amHe looks like a Beck protoge!
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:28pmBut Nazi were liberal, pro homosexual, pro abortion, almost as conservative as Obama himself.
Report Post »rodertrudis
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:37pmhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017851/Norway-attacks-gunman-Anders-Behring-Breivik-right-wing-extremist-hated-Muslims.html
RIGHTWING EXTREMIST, LIKE TIMOTHY MCVEIGH, GEORGE W. BUSH, DICK CHENEY, JARED LAUGHNER, ETC.,
Report Post »HanginOn
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:36amDoesn’t bother me who this nut is tied to. The Tea Party is NOT a “Right wing extremest group” no matter how many times the proggie zealots scream it is. Just shoot the POS and send the message of what happens to malfunctioning units like him, they get shut down permanently.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:23amMy feelings exactly.
It does not matter WHAT his political ideology is, he is not “right” in the head.
A WACKO from any side can go off like this.
My prayers are with the wounded and the families of the deceased and all those affected by this wacko.
Report Post »BIGJAYINPA
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 6:11amEver hear about the Reichstag fire? How about the SS wearing Polish uniforms attacking a German radio station on 31 Aug 1939? Ever hear of an Agent Provacateur?? Ever read the Overton Window?? Don’t belive everything you hear, don’t belive everything you see. Search for the answers yourself and never, never, NEVER take anything the Lame stream Media says at face value…do your own research and always watch the other hand…Just sayin’
Report Post »bearfoothillbilly
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:52amI don’t thank this guy was or is a wacko. That is a way to easy excuse used by unscrupulous defense attorneys. I thank he is an intelligent person and that is what scares me the most. Wackos pop up from time to time but this type has more like him being trained to fallow him in the future.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:11amTo faaaar leftist extremists, the mainstream (Tea Party) looks like an extremist movement. It’s a matter of perspective (or lack thereof). Remember, these are the same sort of people who complain because the New York Times is TOO CONSERVATIVE!
Report Post »stevoschmidt
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:31amhow about calling him for what he is a nazi just like the crazy egyptians waving the nazi flag everywhere. glenns right nazis and jihadists are cool with each other for now like hitler was cool with stalin and the muslim leaders of the middle east and north africa. why? they hate all thats not in accordance with thier extremities including, jews, hindus, christians. glenns been banging the nail on the head for years now about extremists working in mutual agreement to stamp out freedom and liberty to impose thier radical beliefs and systems on us. third riech, kymer rogue, and every other communist, facist, marxist regime thats ever existed there theyll be in the shadows creating fear and confusion. this is the darkside of the force at work here. trying to pit us against each other bye using the term “right”. to me its blah blah blah. i say hes a nazi and has nazi sympathies as well. so now they wanna lump him in on the “right” that may be european terminology but over here OVER HERE WE CALL IT LEFTIST, COMMUNISTIC TERMINOLOGY. so take your label and put it where the sun dont shine. they wish and try at every attempt to classify everyone under a label. since most republicans are RIGHT leaning conservatives then that must means were all potential wackos. im sick of reading history and seeing it misconstrued bye labeling the most brutal dictators as the usual conservative right-wingers. im not calling them the left anymore theyre just simply WRONG thats right theyre WRONG c
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 5:38amwhy would the Nazi’s attack them selves ?
Report Post »264win
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:30amLet’s see he was raped as kid by the camp instructors?
Report Post »stevoschmidt
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:44amlmaorofloloalomaolmaoroflol
Report Post »poetopoet
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:23amThe boy with the Dragon Tattoo?
Report Post »NotFooled
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:29amTimothy McVeigh was a white supremacist and followed the KKK philosophy. The KKK was started by the Red Shirt Democratic society in 1875. Their job was to keep black voter from voting Republican like so many were. This was due to the fact that Lincoln was a Republican. Now that we established that Timothy McVeigh was a leftist now we can move on to the truth. The left need a violent act committed by the Right to create chaos and decent among the uneducated public. Divide and conquer. Hitler was a Socialist who over threw the Right –Winged Government in Germany. White supremacy is a leftist-winged movement. So I ask the question again. What does the Norwegians consider Right-Winged?
Report Post »great.work
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:44amMcVeigh was not a leftist lol – he was definitely right wing . . . furthermore, the parties of the mid 19th century do not align with what they are today. In fact, they were almost opposite their designations now.
Report Post »stevoschmidt
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:46amthe who? wewontbefooledagain. great post. right on oops i mean RIGHT ON!
Report Post »NotFooled
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:00am@Great.Work. And your Hypothesis on Mcveigh is supported by???? LOL That’s right. NOTHING. So the liberal left don’t race divide anymore? LMAO. It’s a tradition they have followed for over a hundred years. Your right in one aspect. The Limousine liberals have cleverly hid their racist history by stating over and over again that it is the Right who is raciest. Question though? Why are there so many abortion clinics in ghettos and the projects?
Report Post »Lana40
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:26amApparently this “National Labour Party would be a kin to our Democrat party. (This monster shot up their youth camp) Enviromentalists, just recently stopped all fur trading, ummm…Norway has a lot of oil (I didn’t know that before), but pushing alternative energy….has a Socialist Labour Youth, yadda yadda. They have a Democrat-christian Party, a Progress Party (That’s what they call right-wing) Against welfare, any government control, immigration of Arabic peeps, becoming a very large group in government.
Report Post »Isn‘t it weird to ya’wl though that, Homeland Security just came out w/ the terrorist‘ video staring ’white men’ ??
NotFooled
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:40am@ Lana, Interesting. Thanks. Regardless of the guy’s political beliefs, I think we all can agree that this guy need to be executed.
Report Post »Nick84
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:59am@NotFooled-
Timothy McVeigh was a registered Republican and a member of the NRA. He really sounds like a liberal to me…
Report Post »Lana40
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 4:15am@ Notfooled
Report Post »Yes, he needs to take a slow trip through hell.
Back to this ‘Progress Party’. The lady that leads this group now considers herself a ‘liberal conservative’. Which means they are for smaller government, low taxes, strong immigration, but for gay marriage, abortion, etc. The thing that sticks out to me is………A main principle common to most liberal conservatives is that COLLECTIVE traditions, practices or customs are crucial to a moral life. I‘ve heard that collective thingy before and it sure wasn’t from any conservative that I know :)
bearfoothillbilly
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 4:18amNICK84: Please note, A Republican dose not a conservative make.
Report Post »Their are only two was of thinking Liberal and constrictive. Liberal leads to socialism and conservatism is its own end. To rely on labels like democrat or republican is to fall for the lie of politics. Thy are only party names and not what the members are inside. Only throe their actions can you tell what thy really are.
As for the NRA well I am a gun owner and I am not a member of the NRA. That only means I do not wish to join. It dose not make me Right or left just not a member and $34 a year richer.
audaxrex
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:26amNotfooled – what UTTER hooey! You can’t seriously believe that?
Report Post »But wait:”Now that we established that Timothy McVeigh was a leftist now we can move on to the truth.” – well at least you cleared that up First the big lie, then move on to the facts, right?
Lloyd Drako
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:28amMcVeigh was not a racist, though he had had contacts with racist groups.
He was not a Christian fanatic, though he had been raised Roman Catholic.
He was an extreme enemy of government whose main concern was apparently some perceived threat to the right to bear arms.
He regarded himself as a “soldier” fighting for a cause.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:41pmLloyd DrakoL: I believe it was more than a perceived threat against the right to bear arms. It was the slaughter and mass murder of the Davidians. The ***** Reno had already had the guy’s family up at Ruby Ridge slaughtered and she and the ZOG was clearly drooling for American blood at Waco. The ZOG and Reno got their slaughter which they were looking for and McVeigh got his revenge. It’s really that simple.
Report Post »You have to recall that the Clinton administration was almost entirely Jewish and they were simply doing what Jews do.. They slaughter and they snuff out any Liberty in which Patriots may desire to cling to!
Nick84
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:41pmbearfoothillbilly-
“To rely on labels like democrat or republican is to fall for the lie of politics. Thy are only party names and not what the members are inside. Only throe their actions can you tell what thy really are.”
It’s pretty funny that you would try to “correct” me, while completely ignoring the comment I was responding to:
“Timothy McVeigh was a white supremacist and followed the KKK philosophy. The KKK was started by the Red Shirt Democratic society in 1875. Their job was to keep black voter from voting Republican like so many were. This was due to the fact that Lincoln was a Republican. Now that we established that Timothy McVeigh was a leftist now we can move on to the truth.”
Report Post »DaveOregon
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:26amIt’s a shame and a mess – no one really know or will for sometime. It’s all conjecture at this time. Keep you mouth shut and see what comes out – less you look like a reactionary fool.
Report Post »David, the Constitutional Libertarian
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:22amIn Europe, Right Wing extremists are national socialists! That is what Nazi’s were.
In Europe, they consider national socialists to be right wing, they consider socialists to be left wing.
I do not understand why they put them on the opposite sides of the spectrum.
In the US, Right wing is small government purveyors. Not the same.
Of course we are already seeing the leftists here in the state’s attempt to equate the two as the same. Just proves how frelling stupid they are.
Report Post »Vet with Vendetta
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:25amI like your Farscape use of language :)
Report Post »touch
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:27amPeace and Love baby, let’s just all Coexist – NOT!
Report Post »David, the Constitutional Libertarian
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:41amV with V, sometimes I use fracking from Battlestar Galactica.
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:46amIf someone’s not for smaller government, they are not Right-Wing. If you disagree with that, frak you.
Report Post »MAProg
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:25am@constitutional libertarian: that’s because national socialist and socialist are different things. You’re equivocating.
@lesbian: not necessarily true. there are a lot of liberal anarchists. equating “right” with less government and “left” with more is a new construct.
Report Post »bearfoothillbilly
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:40amMAProg
Correction:
Report Post »Right-wing (conservatives) believe in small government
Anarchists are for NO government
Lloyd Drako
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:50am“I do not understand why they put them [Socialists and National Socialists] on the opposite sides of the spectrum.”
They do it because they were: Nazis and Socialists–and among the latter, especially Communists–were the bitterest of enemies in the 1920s-30s.
The Nazis regarded the both the Communists and Socialists as enemies of the Fatherland, because of the way the left cultivated class divisions among “racial comrades” who should stand united, and the Communists especially as stooges of Moscow (which they were).
The left regarded the Nazis as stooges of reactionary elements (Army, landed aristocracy, and big corporate capitalists) and as enemies of organized labor, which they were.
Most of the violence that rocked Germany in the last days before Hitler came to power was Nazis (extreme right) vs. Communists (extreme left).
Ask anyone who was there–a few are still alive–and they will confirm this.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:35amDrako: “The Nazis regarded the both the Communists and Socialists as enemies of the Fatherland, because of the way the left cultivated class divisions among “racial comrades” who should stand united, and the Communists especially as stooges of Moscow (which they were).”
That’s not true. Racial comrades? He opposed divisions based on “Class” not race. There would be no Negros, Jews, Arabs or even Slavs in Hitler’s Germany.
Why would you state an obvious falsehood? It was about Unity. The Unity of the German people. You know there may be something to that notion since polls show that the Chinese are the most conent with their Gov’t. I‘d say it’s probably true because they are the most unified people on earth.. I know anyone can dispute anything coming from China but I believe there’s nothing more healthy for a peopel than a sense of Unity. If only we had it in America? But Unity can never exist in a Multicult society.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:59amTech:
Yes, exactly.
The Nazis appropriated the term “conrade” from the left much as they appropriated the “socialist” in their party name, red for the color of their flag, and much else: partly as a provocation, partly because it expressed the longing for solidarity with a collective–in this case, a racienot a class.
You are right that there was no place for Jews, Arabs, Negroes, Slavs or anyone else who was not Aryan in Nazi Germany, though in practice, “Aryan” as time went on mostly came to mean “not Jewish,” allowing for Frenchmen, Albanians and who have you to enlist in the SS.
Aryans were to constitute a “Volksgemeinschaft” or “racial community” in which all would be “Rassengenossen,“ sometimes translated as ”racial comrades.”
I suppose they did not use “Kameraden” (as in “Ich hatt einen Kameraden”) because of its French origin.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:43pmLloyd Drako: Ok, I see what were you were saying now.
Report Post »lonewolf57
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:18amHe’s a cutie.My Rott would love this boy.
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:09amI just hate the beginnings of news stories and investigations, all the information is so fluid, its constantly changing. I also would like to know what right-wing extremism means over there. Is he like a Timothy McVeigh type? I guess that makes me smack-dab in the middle somewhere because I don’t believe going on the offense. I will protect myself when threatened, however.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 4:05amTim McVeigh came home from the military, saw a govt out of control and freaked out. He saw the FBI murder those nut job Branch Davidians and blew up a govt building where the Branch Davidian killers were hiding and yucking it up. He didn’t mow down kids playing badmitten at a camp. McVeigh was definitely a hard right wing operative. This clown, is a NAZI. A left wing prog nut.
Report Post »GiGi80
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:01am@Mil-Dou
Report Post »“He didn’t mow down kids playing badmitten at a camp.”
No — he blew up babies in a day care center.
bearfoothillbilly
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:33am“Right-wing” is a title that the left came up with to describe any one who dose not agree with them.
Report Post »JTMailman
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:08amNo, Nazis were anti-religion of all kinds. They only used those ministers they could dupe.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:33amNazi Germany was 2/3 protestant 1/3 catholic …a whole nation was duped!
Report Post »Charles
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 6:48amHitler and his nazi pals at the top were occultists.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:04amBetter to say Nazism WAS a religion: it had its martyrs, its feast days, its priesthood, its distinctive iconography, its holy scriptures and much else characteristic of religion.
The same, of course, applied to Communism, with the difference that Communism was aggressively atheistic and materialistic and Nazism was not.
Report Post »sissykatz
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:08amFunny how you get a picture in your head of what a “Murderer” looks like. They said he had blonde hair but I wasn’t expecting him to look like he just walked off a college campus. I was expecting more
of a shaved head, tattooed, lanky looking outsider that would say he had been “Bullied” all his life
If he in fact is the “Monster” that did this I wish they would fry him..
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:13amOh but they won’t. He is just misunderstood. Perfect candidate for rehabilitation.
Report Post »NotFooled
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:05amHas it gotten so bad in Norway that Socialist Liberals are considered Right-Winged there? Europe is F***ed.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:27amWell let me say this, as an American example: if you consider the political spectrum as a circle, with the Constitution at the top center. The extreme right (libertarians/anarchists) and the left come together at the bottom of the circle.
Report Post »David, the Constitutional Libertarian
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:50amViet Vet, I am a Constitutional Libertarian. Look up the Nolan Chart- http://www.nolanchart.com/
It is the best graph to explain political positions. Except the one I made a while back.
Anyway, here is how I describe political positions.
The left is statist and the right is individualist.
The left extreme is totalitarianism and the right extreme is anarchy.
Now, there are two subdivisions of freedom, economic and personal.
Libertarians, Anarchists, Modern day liberals (not classical) believe in personal freedoms.
Libertarians, Anarchists, Modern day social conservatives believe in economic freedoms.
There are mixtures and such that obfuscate the beliefs but everything I have mentioned so far is pretty straight forward. Now, the Anarchists I mention are the Anarcho Capitalists, not the communist Anarchists that go to places to like the G20 and cause mayhem. They are a perverted belief type that call themselves Anarcho socialists which they are really just communists. See the Mises institute for clarification on Anarcho Capitalists.
Later man.
Report Post »stevoschmidt
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:30amwhen we label we segregate and everyone cries unite unify as soon as desegration sets in everyone reverts back to thier segragated past. churches, schools, families, government. its our name calling and generalizations of one another thats got everything so screwed. federalist or anti federalist, slave and owner. it boils all down to an individuals conscience is it clear and consice or do you have a guilty conscience. thats why we must eliminate party affiliation when in the voting booth, we must know why your voting for that person and if we can be swayed by labeling and generalizing the system is enslaved to a controlling party. thus resulting in the creation of the federal reserve and a economically controlled society.
Report Post »bigdawg
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:44amMy humble view:
Report Post »In the American idealogical spectrum, the left extreme is totalitarianism (total government control) and the right extreme is anarchism (no governement control). The left half of the spectrum could be simplified as the “big government” side and the right half, the “small, limited government side.” Nazis (National Socialist) could never exist in the American right wing, small, limited government side. It was a totalitarian style government. However, in Europe the spectrum (simply stated) is different. Our uniquely American, limited- government model doesn’t exist there. Their spectrum is Nationalism on the right and Internationalism on the left. Hitler’s Nazis were Nationalist seeking to spread the German language, culture, race,etc throughout the world. Internationalist, on the other side, seek to spread government control throughout the existing nations and cultures. Ergo, the term “right-wing Nazi” is only accurate in Europe. In America, he would be called “left-wing Nazi”. And we all know a few of them.
godlovinmom
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:04amIs it just me or were Nazi’s considered right wing christian extremist…evil comes in many names.
Report Post »EZDOZIT
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:08amSo this is what Jesus would do…right?
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:16amno…this is definetly not something Jesus would do.
Report Post »Enuff Zenuff
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 4:14amBeck pointed out in one of his programs that the NAZI’s were actually very close to being communists – that they shared many values in running totalitarian governments… but Hitler often blamed the communists (also Jews, and others) as scapegoats to help unify the country. NAZI’s & Communists certainly shared a love for big government.
BTW, Timothy McVeigh’s act was in fact an Islamic Terrorist attack as was reported by Oklahoma City TV reporter & journalist Jayna Davis in her book “The Third Terrorist”, and confirmed in a declasified FBI memo:
http://patriotsunion.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=6376701%3ATopic%3A5456&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 5:51amhttp://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/missing.html
Report Post »bearfoothillbilly
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 8:27amThe left will always need to blame others to get what thy want. And the right is the perfect target. Their quit, thy don’t fight back and thy seam to always help the left when the left gets caught with their hands in the cookie jar.(so to speak)
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:31amMe personally, I don’t care what this son of a swine believed in, he’s a child murder, and any horrific form of punishment I could imagine for him to suffer would be far too merciful for what he has done.
Report Post »OldOllie
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:02amFive bucks says this summer camp was a gun-free zone. Any takers?
Report Post »lindathepatriot
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:58amI would like to know the names of those so called “right-wing extremest groups” that he belonged to. Are they called CNN and MSNBC?
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:31amANY BETS on how long it’s going to take the MARXIST Obama and his dummie Napolitano to say …“SEE they are not ALL Muslims”… ANY bets? The Answer: Correct…not ALL are MUSLIMS…just 99% of them . NAZI’s were NOT CHRISTIANS. HITLER was NOT a Christian…they suckered people in just like the Muslims are doing now. At any rate: I’m very sorry to hear about this senseless slaughter…. we’ll stay tuned and get the facts…but we all know that MSNBC‘s TALKING DIP S’s are already wishing it were MONDAY so they could spew anew.
Report Post »nowhereman
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 4:23amI wondered how long it would take before Obama’s name got dropped into this.
Report Post »Cold War Vet
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:51amAt this point, I don’t know the full gist of what happened there. I’ll hold my judgements until I know more. I’m not about to start getting all lathered up with opinions.
I’ll not support a gun-control argument, nor be quick to blame anyone, but I recommend that we all take a civil and respectful approach to this issue.
Report Post »lindathepatriot
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:56amI’d like to know the names of those “right-wing extremest groups” that he belonged to.
Report Post »Are they called CNN and MSNBC?
drphil69
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:59amCould it really be a “right wing extremist?”
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:23amCivil and respectful approach? What’sa little massacre of children and bombing of a building when not done by a muslim?
Report Post »nptden
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:50amMaybe people will think differently about the ‘Death Penalty’. They will probably give him a ‘Pulitzer Prize’. Europe and America better wake up. They are coming! Time to deport all Muslims back to the Middle East, then Nuke them. It can be called, The Great Crusade’.
Report Post »drhunt
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:50amI can just read it now…leftists are going to blame Sarah Palin for this catastrophe, much like they did in AZ.
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:48amUh oh. Must have been a leftie plant.
Report Post »CHEWYRUNTS
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:47amGod be with the families of the fallen and be with the victims who survive as well. this world is going to hell in a hand basket!
Report Post »Baron_Doom
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:46amAre “extremist” groups automatically right-wing? They call the Nazis a right-wing group yet their thinking was very left-wing.
Report Post »mharry860
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:48amYeah, funny how that works.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:34amThe only thing right wing about them, was they called themselves ‘nationalist’. The left, who are bereft of patriotism (as evidenced by the Harvard study about the 4th of July parades, and now regarding the American Flag, they’ve actually admitted it), often put patriotism down by referring to it as nationalism.
Report Post »bigdawg
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:15amBaron_Doom: See my explanation above… hope it helps…
Report Post »AlanOfPC
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:45am“right-wing extremist groups in eastern Norway.”
Oh boy, this ought to be good. Leftist blabbermouths coming right up!
(rolls eyes)
Report Post »Baron_Doom
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:50amI don‘t understand what’s considered right-wing these days, especially considering the Nazis were considered right-wing even though their ideals were totally left-wing.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:18amLet’s not quibble over the terminology when we have a murderous attack like this. It may well be now that this guy was a McVeigh kind of terrorist, with a hatred for the ruling liberal regime in Norway. Nationalist or neonazi may more accurately describe him.
I doubt that he is part of a larger movement if he isn’t connected to Islamic jihadists. For that we should be glad. that means this isn’t the beginning of another campaign. Though the possibility remains that, if they didn’t do this, Jihadists may be inspired by this to coppy its success.
If this is a Norwegian Oklahoma City It is still a very bad thing for Norway because now it has to deal with the threat of violence from both sides.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:23amThere’s very little if any difference. At the start of WWII The Soviet Union and Nazi Germany/Fascist Italy were allied. And they would have stayed that way if Hitler hadn’t decided he wanted to rule the world alone. Today’s left has all the characteristics of this: socialism, totalitarian/dictatorial, anti-semitic, control education, anti-gun, collectivism, glorifies government, nationalize industry, anti-corporation, etc., etc.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:38amIslesfordian, it’s foolish not to think the Islamofascists are planning all the time to launch attacks. There are still hundreds of Islamist attacks in the future, in all parts of the world.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:42amNationalist on the part of an american, you call patriotism;on the part of everyone else you call nationalism.The world is not fooled though. You love to pompously fool yourseves with your self seving rhetoric [your constitution can be interpreted any way you like].As the advanced europeans move away from nationalism[patriotism] ,via the EU and such, america is embracing rabid nationalism[at least its right wing brainwashed tea partyers and republicans]
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:45amIt says the police stormed his apartment with machine guns and protective gear. I thought they apprehended him at the scene.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:44amOn the other thread, the police are quoted as saying he wasn’t connected to any of the right-wing extremist groups, only that he was against multiculturalism, and muslim immigration. Maybe TV-2 is like our MSM.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 4:15amYou can’t blame the guy for being against multiculturalism and muslim immigration. But, man, killing kids like that is ill.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 5:39amnow the TSA can profile White guys at the Airport….
Report Post »HumbleCitizen
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:56am@Tower. TSA already targets white people. Almost all of the incidents involve white people. I have seen NONE for Hispanics, Asains, Muslims and only 1 black.
I agree, isn’t it odd this occurred only 2 days after DHS said white people were terrorists.
The media is owned, I won‘t believe a thing I read about this incident because we won’t find out the “true” facts for another 20 years when the “real” story gets leaked out.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:14am“He was against multiculturalism, and muslim immigration.”
So, if he had been an American, he would most likely have been a regular viewer of (choose 1):
a. PBS
b. MSNBC
c. Fox News
d. Nickelodeon
Just teasin.’
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