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Taking the ‘Southern’ Out of Southern Baptist? Panel Recommends More Inclusive-Sounding Name

Southern Baptist Seeks Name ChangeNASHVILLE, Tenn. (The Blaze/AP) — A panel for the Southern Baptist Convention recommended Monday that its leadership approve a new, add-on description for the denomination — “Great Commission Baptists” — but stopped short of a complete, legal name change.

Officials described the new term as a way to give an official, sanctioned identity to affiliated churches and believers who don’t want to use the term “Southern.”

The Rev. Bryant Wright, president of the nation’s largest Protestant denomination, has said he is concerned that the “Southern” name is too regional and hinders the evangelistic faith’s effort to expand beyond the South.

The panel rejected a complete name change, citing the legal costs and difficulties. They also noted the positive associations many hold with the Southern Baptist name, such as with its well-regarded disaster relief organization.

A recent survey conducted by the SBC’s own Lifeway Research firm gives weight to the idea that the name does drive away some potential members.

Of the 2,000 Americans surveyed, 40 percent of respondents had an unfavorable view of the denomination and 44 percent of respondents said that knowing a church was Southern Baptist would negatively impact their decision to visit or join the church.

Although 53 percent of respondents overall had a favorable view of the Southern Baptists, the high negatives are a concern for a denomination in which spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ is a fundamental to their faith.

While the 16 million member denomination continues to plant new churches in the U.S. and around the world, it has seen a decline in baptisms, church attendance and membership in recent years.

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  • nbark1
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 8:23am

    Labels mean nothing. The Democrats DEMAND that they are not Democrats but ARE the DEMOCRATIC party. A pig is a pig, a cow is a cow.A tiger is a tiger.

    AS for the SBC and a name change …. see above.
    I am a Christian first by the very Grace of God and the shed blood provided by His Son, as a gift to me. Nothing more, nothing less.
    I am a Baptist by Choice.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 8:36am

      The fact that they look at things through POPULUS GLASSES says all we need to know about the heads of the Southern Baptist Orginazation. They want attendance as attendance equals income.
      They’re in the business of religion

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    • Listen_then_think
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:58am

      I agree with smithclar. If it is a christian church with christian beliefs that follows Christ and the scriptures, why is it the baptist church? Jesus said If it be my church it will have my name. So do the southern baptists follow John the Baptist? I honestly don’t know so I am asking. I can ask the same thing of catholics, episcapalians (sp), protestants, evangelicals, on and on.

       
  • izukiddin
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 8:16am

    The Convention will change its name, because as as Bryant Wright said the name “Southern” doesn’t fit it global outreach. It is as simple as that.

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    • poorrichard09
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 8:19am

      Makes sense to me. Now if they drop Southern from Southern Poverty (of ethics) Law Center.

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    • UnreconstructedLibertarian
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 12:48pm

      Its just as logical as Roman Catholics dropping “Roman” and Eastern Orothodox dropping “Eastern”. Shouldn’t they just be one big happy Orthodox Catholic family for the sake of a more effective world outreach?

      I somehow doubt this name change situation is as noble as advertised.

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  • Parnell3rd
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 7:47am

    The Southern Baptist Convention might want to reconsider the name change. Two River’s Baptist Church changed their name and their congregation decreased. Or was if greed for money when they sold land to Gaylord/Dolly Pardon for the new theme park? HHMMMM?

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  • ConservativeChristianB1954
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 7:47am

    Can’t a religious group change their name without all the harsh criticism and hate being spewed at them? I’ll bet these same people would not dare say anything like that against Islam.
    AND…. the SBC is NOT a Protestant denomination. History tells us that there have always been Christian groups operating outside the Catholic Church, therefore they have not PROTESTED anything.
    How do I know this?

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 8:14am

      Actually, I’m a member of an SBC church, and yes, we’re Protestant. You have to understand that the term Protestant is in relation to our worship versus the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches, with which the vast majority of us disagree. Even the Anglicans and Lutherans, the two most Catholic of the Protestant churches, are still Protestant.

      It’s important to note the difference between doctrine (where we disagree) and tenets of the faith (where we agree). Differences in doctrine can be argued and debated, tenets cannot.

      This is why we view the Lutherans, Catholics, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, etc. as denominations and totally differently from LDS, Christian Science, Jehovah’s Witnesses, etc., whom we consider cults.

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    • ConservativeChristianB1954
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:13am

      It cut off the rest of my post… How do I know this? I took church history at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, a Southern Baptist Seminary.

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    • P8riot
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:43am

      @LEFTFIGHTER – As you know, I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and its sad that you feel inclined to constantly defame my religious beliefs. I didn’t know that you were a Southern Baptist; but that is interesting. However, hopefully it will help you feel less hostile towards my religion if you know that I completely respect your religion.

      I now live out west where there seem to be less SB, but prior to that I lived in Florida while attending law school and met many SB. I think your church produces some GREAT PEOPLE! I was close friends with many of your faith. They all respected my religious beliefs as well and never claimed that I was a member of a ‘cult’. We worked together as fellow Christians and often had our families gather together for activities. I truly respect the Southern Baptists for their efforts to share what they believe is true… just like my friends respected me for my efforts to share what I believe is true. I never heard them speak of my religion the way you do.

      Are your ill feelings towards my religion your personal beliefs or are they shared by all members of your faith? I’m inclined to believe that they are your personal beliefs since my Southern Baptist friends seemed to respect my religious beliefs as I respected theirs.

      Again, I’m sorry that you feel such hostility towards the religion that I love (as evidenced in your past posts), but I still respect yours – and will never bash your personal beliefs.

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    • UnreconstructedLibertarian
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:44am

      @LeftFighter

      Is that really what the SBC is teaching?

      “Protestant” is a Catholic term used in relation to denominations that were spawned by the Reformation. Baptists are NOT part of the reformation, its beliefs predate the reformation. If anything, the term applies to the Catholic church, as well its progeny, – as THEY protested Biblical faith first. Catholics apply the term to Baptists in attempt to erase any notion that a faith existed before theirs.

      The myth is that Baptists are an extension of Presbyterian belief, Calvinists – this is simply not true. Calvin was influenced by the “Anabaptists” that existed prior to his reformation movement – and before. Calvin took what truth was convienient and infused it into a hierarchy of secular control.

      I implore you to study this for yourself. You may even prefer Calvinism over your current SBC affiliation. If so, please become a Presbyterian. If not, please dedicate yourself to studying the real history of the Baptist belief.

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:51am

      Lefthanded

      I am a Catholic and agree with you fully. While we disagree, our tenents are the same. I know the Southern Baptist Church does much good in Chirst’s name. While I have no vested interest in any name change, I hope that members do not depart.

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    • P8riot
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:54am

      @CONSERVATIVECHRISTIANB1954 – I completely agree with you. I too believe that people should quit “spewing” “harsh criticism and hate” towards other people’s religions. By the way, I like your profile picture – looks like from that painting that you might be a cowboy – I’ve been a team roper (healer) for years! Cowboy on!

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  • M24
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 7:31am

    Its All About The Money

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 7:23am

    “While the 16 million member denomination continues to plant new churches in the U.S. and around the world, it has seen a decline in baptisms”
    Well Bryant, when you don’t offer baptism every week, it hinders a person considering baptism when the Spirit hits them. If you want to get baptized in your church, you have to take a course on baptism and it may be several weeks before you are actually baptized. Let them be baptized the same day the Spirit guides them to be baptized. How many people were baptized when you had the impromptu baptism a few years ago? 365 or close to that? There is no Biblical precedent that requires a class before baptism.

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    • LawrenceHill
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 3:22pm

      I have some questions for the Mormon Blazers. Please don’t get defensive. These are sincere questions. As you know, most Christians do not accept moromons as fellow christians, rather they view the denominationas a fringe group, sect, or cult,for various reasone.
      What is the OFFICAL attitude of the LDS denomination towards other denominations. Do LDS members feel that other denominations are as “legitimate” (for want of a better word) as their denomination is? Or do they look at other denominations as “defective” (again, for lack of a better word) . Can LDS members freely attend others worship services without being considerred “weak” or “disobedient” by their leaders and other members?

      I attend a denominational church. We accept other denominations who are doctrinally part of Christ’s one, holy catholic and apostic church as brothers and sisters in the Lord. We can freely attend each others services (ie. baptist, Pres., Anglican, Methodist, etc.) with no guilt trips llaid on us by our leaders. Jehovah’s Witrtnesses, who claim to be the “true” church, cannot do this. Can LDS members, who I believe stake the same claim, excercise the freedom I have in this regard?

      BTW, if ione belongs to a denomination that claims to be the “true” church, it is a by its very nature a “put down” of other denominations. Why, then, would you take offense at others’ who put you down in return?

      These are sincere questions. I don’t want to start an argument. Thank

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  • ThoreauHD
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 7:15am

    Protestants have 6000 different names. Who cares.

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  • EP46
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 6:29am

    @lukerw…Southern Baptists believe:
    There is only one true god…God our Heavenly Father
    We believe God created heaven and earth and all therein
    We believe God sent His only begotten son, Jesus Christ, to die on the cross for our sins that all can be saved..thru FAITH…and have everlasting live
    We believe in the Trinity…God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy spirit..which lives within us
    We believe that the Holy Bible is God’s true word
    We believe in the Ten Commandments
    We believe in heaven and hell….good and evil
    We believe that you are saved by grace through faith as a gift of God
    We believe in individual salvation…. not collective salvation
    We believe in “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”
    We believe each person will stand before God on Judgement day and give an accounting
    We believe in eternal life and eternity in heaven
    We believe that all sin can be forgiven
    We believe in baptism as Jesus Himself was baptized
    Simply, we believe in the one true God.
    I know others can add to this…and perhaps describe other Christian beliefs…but we believe that you can only be saved by grace through Faith…and faith is what is attacked by Satan.

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    • Bluegrasstide
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 7:16am

      My goodness… You would think that there are more pressing issues at hand… Maybe a lost and dying world, persecution of missionaries and Christians in other nations, a nation that seems to be more secular/irrational with every passing day. Yet, we (I say this as a Southern Baptist) are having name that church contests. It will CERTAINLY BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THE CONVENTION RESPONDS WHEN THE WORLD FINDS PROBLEMMS WITH BIBLICAL TEACHING AND PREACHING… Surely, that will be off limits… How frustrating.

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    • ConservativeChristianB1954
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:14am

      Amen!

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    • Paladin
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:43am

      @EP46 and the Baptist beliefs: The one true god…? Which one is that? What makes YHWH the big Kahuna and not Bhaghwaan or Brahma or Krishna or Satam or Allah, or Shiva or any of the other gods of the peoples of the earth. Christians don’t believe in those gods and are therefore atheists except for YHWH. As for all the other stuff…same old woo woo. They still are bigoted against homosexuals, still think everyone who doesn‘t follow ’ the recipe‘ for salvation is going to be tortured by their ’loving‘ ’god’ for eternity by burning continuously. This is the writings of madmen and I don’t mean angry. I am a NON-theist but if YHWH were real he’d be classified as being an insane murderous maniac serial killer. Read the bible. Just using the stats given in the bible ‘god’ murdered or had murdered close to three million people. Now there’s a loving father. The Southern Baptists can change their name all they want but it won’t change their anacronistic and bigoted views. PS: I used to be a Southern Baptist deacon and guest preacher until I made the wonderful liberating mistake of reading the ‘good’ book for myself with no concordance.NOt so good. The bibgle is just a book written by ignorant men. How about this: I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
      And don’t give me the old argument that Jesus changed all that…”Psalms 19:7 The law of the

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    • Snoopygirl62
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 4:05pm

      That Jesus was bodily resurrected from the dead.

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    • scarebear83
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 4:07pm

      “We believe in baptism as Jesus Himself was baptized”

      But do you believe baptism is required in order to be saved? (Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38)

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    • LawrenceHill
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 3:05pm

      Bapitst also believe in the autonomy of the local congregation as well as the priesthood of ALL belivers.

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  • EP46
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 5:39am

    Leave my church alone !! A key belief in Southern Baptist is that members come into the church personally, individually, and freely. No one is “born into the church.” Each Baptist church is autonomous, with no hierarchical body telling the local church how to conduct its business. Local churches themselves select their pastors and staff. Therefore, if you do not believe, do not join. Do not change the name, the name stands for the teachings of the church.

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    • jcldwl
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 6:06am

      All the attacks on Christianity going on in the world and now the largest protestant religion, (one I grew up in), suddenly wants to change it’s name for better appeal. I believe that is a prorgressive tactic. Sounds like the SBC might want to look closer at those behind the push to change the name. They might not like what they find.

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    • Choctaw25
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 7:01am

      LOOK UNDER THE RUG. As a VERY Conservative Christian myself, this reason doesn’t pass the smell test. Someone has a motive, an agenda, a bias but it has nothing to do with a name, SBC.
      New members aren’t coming because the whole culture of America is leaving the Church behind. AND some dope comes up with the suggestion that you need a name change??????????
      AND the congregation buys into it, hook line and sinker?????????
      I think it is more the dedication and beliefs or the visable lack thereof in the messengers, than I do in the name.

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    • single stack
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 10:51am

      It’s anti southern bigotry.

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    • neverending
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:55am

      @JCLDWL –I totally agree with you. Sounds like the same lame excuse Campus Crusaders for Christ used when they changed their name. Satan is in overdrive!

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  • loneindividual
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 5:17am

    Evangelicals = Progressive “Christians”

    The “True” Church would have gotten the name right in the first place. LOL

    Screw Catholics, Roman Emperor CONSTANTINE forced Christianity on everyone…and he wasn’t to nice to the Jews. :)
    Screw Evangelicals, they are the BASTARD CHILDREN OF CHRIST. They murder their God by spreading lies about Mormons…lies breed hate, hate breeds violence.

    The South is full of HATE. The entire country knows it! Sexists, Racists, Homophobes, Bigots….oh my!

    I’m ex-Mormon gone Deist btw, but please, don’t let that discourage you Mormons. :) YOUR BACKS ARE RIDDLED WITH KNIVES! Trust me…I have heard ALOT behind the scenes.

    Progressives/Democrats made the Confederate Flag.

    YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR NAMES! BUT YOU WILL NOT CHANGE WHO YOU REALLY ARE!

    Keep flying that disgusting flag of traitors.

    Joseph Smith – Abolitionist before Lincoln
    Abraham Lincoln – Abolitionist

    Both Assassinated by Southerners. (Cuz the Masons of Missouri followed the Mormons to Nauvou Illinois)

    THERE ARE GOOD MASONS (many without affiliation) AND BAD MASONS (lotz of Warlocks/Oath Breakers)….just like there are Republicans and Democrats…except the lines are blurred and you see more than just Red and Blue.

    Regardless…I hardly consider any Church on this Earth to be CHRISTIAN…especially since most Churches are managed by SINNERS.

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    • Choctaw25
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 7:16am

      As a Christian, Veteran, Mason and yes living in the Capital of the Confederate you are one lonely and pathetic person. You sound like you don’t belong anywhere, because of your bitterness in your heart and soul. You were rejected, because you are a pathetic whiner. Man up and grow a pair, everyone doesn’t see eye to eye with my beliefs, buy I don’t whine like a little baby because of it.

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    • izukiddin
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 11:16am

      ALL churches are managed by sinners.

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    • loneindividual
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 3:50pm

      Choc…lol

      You’re right. I’m not meant for this world. I’m not even meant for a perfect world!

      Lonely? Hell yeah, but not because of bitterness. I’m bitter because everyone is caught up in a spell….including the masons who lay bricks with a melancholy mortar.

      You have built the world its tomb and have grown the walls of the Great Whore’s womb.
      All in her that now scream or yearn, will there at the end to cinders burn.
      Within that castle of isolation, by the fires of desolation!

      And guess who’s fault it is. :) *points finger* Your very “Brotherhood” in all of their gracelessness and treachery.

      It isn’t even the original. Nothing we have today is original! It’s all been corrupted!!!

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  • John_The_Beloved
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 4:17am

    My idea would be to take out any name that separates us and tries to make us different from other christians. Time kick out bad doctrines that have crept in and decieved the flock. And be one simply as the church of God and adhere to what the apostles and scriptures say.

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  • lukerw
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 3:42am

    Please execuse my ignorance… but exactly what differentates the Southern Baptists from other Christian Sects?

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    • 1casawizard
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 3:58am

      DawgGone if I know. The Christians are the city. The So. Baptists are from the country.

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    • 1casawizard
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 4:57am

      Ya got a good point there LUKERW. So. Baptists and Christians among others believe that a man called Jesus was killed because of his beliefs 2000 years ago. He was the only son of Supreme Being, God. or other names you might call him. Jesus, is his only son. That is this the basis of Christianity. There is countless encounters with afterlife. All stories are very similar. My 15yo son under anesthesia on 05nov2011 stopped breathing during a bone set and had an out of body experience. He floated above his body and saw his parents. He saw dead relatives and was told that it was not his time. Thank You, He can show others now what not to do while riding bicycleson the road . Thanks again.

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 5:27am

      The main difference evangelism and mission – the support for Missionaries by the whole assembly of member churches. Southern Baptists support them financially so that the missionaries can use all their time ministering and winning souls rather than having to take time off to fund raise.

      Here is the link to the Southern Baptist Faith and Message http://www.sbc.net/bfm/bfm2000.asp

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  • Chet Hempstead
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 3:41am

    The current name does have the advantage of accuracy. We have a lot Baptists up here in the North, but I don’t think most of them are all that anxious to be lumped in with their Southern counterparts.

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    • nelbert
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 5:05am

      First, Southern Baptist has over 16 million members, it is the largest Protestant body in the US, the second largest Christian body in the US (after Catholics), and has churches in 41 of the 50 states.

      Second, you say that “We have a lot Baptists up here in the North, but I don’t think most of them are all that anxious to be lumped in with their Southern counterparts.” And I have no doubt those Southern counterparts are similarly grateful.

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  • 1casawizard
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 3:16am

    Why can’t we combine the black gospel and white banjo, piano gospel together in one center? That’s my two favorite music. Why can’t some of these big mega churches host both?

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  • Irongardenia
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 3:07am

    I have always been a Southern Baptist and I always will be! I wonder how many people cited in that poll have ever been to a Southern Baptist church? Perhaps they are so ignorant that they believe Westboro Baptist Church is really a Baptist church. It is NOT! Those people at that “church” don’t have a clue to what a Southern Baptist really is! Leave our name alone and stop listening to stupid polls. If we live our lives as we ought and adhere to what we say we believe, then others will want to visit our church. They will then see the light and love of Jesus. If anyone does not want to attend a church because it has “Southern” in it’s name, they have deep issues and need our prayers!

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    • 1casawizard
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 3:53am

      That’s right. I hear ya brother. Whether it be white gospel with the banjos or black with the roof raising singing it is all glory to behold. There is beauty in both types. Why can’t they be in both structure. In the same venue? You can feel the energy with each.

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    • neverending
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 9:56am

      Amen to that.

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 2:51am

    Hey blaze, ummm can you please take down the pictures and the video of the dude with the caved in skull, i mean enough already…. Its over a week now, we get it….its gross.

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  • pwatkins
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 2:23am

    We all need to start living like Christians and stop worrying about whether we are from the south, north, east, or west…we all came from the same direction…from the Father above us. It is time political correctness stopped controlling the Baptist church and they turned it over to worshipping the One and Only God. If you move to the south you become a southerner anyway…what is the big deal? I guess it is like an African American that has never seen Africa…all just want to claim their own title these days…division is on the rise…but we all claim to want to hold hands. The people from the north and west sure like “southern” fried foods and have no complaints getting or calling them our southern recipies.

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    • RevDarwinEllis
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 3:08am

      Amen brother

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    • USAMEDIC3008
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 3:16am

      Yeall come by after church this Sunday,
      The wife’s fixen
      Great Commissioned Chicken,(Fried)

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    • 1casawizard
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 4:27am

      Fist off. Where ya from? Just kiddin. Just be yourself and know you are with folks that love you for being there with them at that moment. They are people just like you. Holler loud if you feel like it, whenever you feel like it. Relax and let it flow. Don’t worry about it. You’ll meet friends next to you.Tell‘em it’s your first time there or second. They had their first and second time there to. Don’t worry about singing because some of the worst are in the choir. P.S. Don’t tell em “This is the way we did it up north”.

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  • hogtrashhd
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 2:22am

    they fell into the trap too.. but then again they have pretty much been all about the benjamins for decades if they always..

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  • godlovinmom
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 2:15am

    Call it whatever you want….until churches stop “tickling” your ear and get back to preaching the gospel…it is not the house of God…the only church that I have been to (and there have been many) independent baptists don’t beat around the bush…they actually use God’s word throughout the whole sermon.

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  • YippeeKiyay
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 2:10am

    What a lame-brain idea.

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    • TurboCat
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 4:58am

      Leave the name alone. For one thing, it is an accurate historical description of something that has been around for a long time and if they change it, there will be no sense of what originally was there.

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  • Captain Crunch
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 2:01am

    There is nothing wrong with the name. Keep it.

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    • TSUNAMI-22
      Posted on February 21, 2012 at 2:15am

      Exactly. If it works, break it – in favor of something less effective.

      Is there racism against people from the south, or something?

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  • Vastidious
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 2:00am

    We moved to Oregon a few years back from the south, and we looked specifically for a Southern Baptist church here and found a few in the area. I personally am proud to call myself a Southern Baptist. I think it helps us clearly state our belief system and it shouldn’t be changed.

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  • LeadNotFollow
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 1:52am

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    More political correctness running amuck.

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  • Andy Cooper
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 1:46am

    Instead of worrying about branding, why not try preaching the gospel for a while.

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  • Razorhunters
    Posted on February 21, 2012 at 1:45am

    no thanks…this aint mikey d’s or tgifridays…

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