Taliban Vows Revenge for Apparent Attack by U.S. Soldier That Killed 16 Afghan Civilians
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KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — The Taliban vowed revenge Monday for an “inhumane attack” in which an American soldier allegedly shot to death 16 civilians in southern Afghanistan and torched their bodies – an assault that has fueled anger still simmering after U.S. troops burned Korans last month.
(Original story: U.S. soldier detained after mass shooting of Afghan civilians)
U.S.-led forces in Afghanistan have stepped up security following the shootings Sunday in Kandahar province out of concern about retaliatory attacks. The U.S. Embassy has also warned American citizens in Afghanistan about the possibility of reprisals.
An Afghan soldier is seen in a guard tower at a military base as civilians gather outside in Panjwai, Kandahar province south of Kabul, Afghanistan, Sunday, March 11, 2012. Afghan President Hamid Karzai says a U.S. service member has killed more than a dozen people in a shooting including nine children and three women. Karzai called the attack Sunday "an assassination" and demanded an explanation from the United States. He says several people were also wounded in the attack on two villages near a U.S. base in the southern province of Kandahar. (AP Photo/Allauddin Khan)
The Taliban claimed responsibility for several attacks last month that the group said were in retaliation for the Americans burning Korans. Afghan forces also turned their guns on their supposed allies at the time, killing six U.S. troops as violent protests wracked the country.
There were no signs of protests Monday and it was unclear what the response would be to Sunday’s deadly spree. It may not be as dramatic as after the Quran burnings since the desecration of the Muslim holy book is viewed as one of the worst sins in Islam. Afghans have also faced numerous instances of civilian casualties from coalition military operations, though rarely the kind of killings seen Sunday.
But the attack will likely spark even greater distrust between Washington and Kabul and fuel questions in both countries about why American troops are still fighting in Afghanistan after 10 years of conflict and the killing of Osama bin Laden.
The Taliban said in a statement on their website that “sick-minded American savages“ committed the ”blood-soaked and inhumane crime” in Panjwai district, a rural region outside Kandahar that is the cradle of the Taliban and where coalition forces have fought for control for years.
An elderly Afghan man sits next to the covered body of a person who was allegedly killed by a U.S. service member, in a minibus in Panjwai, Kandahar province south of Kabul, Afghanistan, Sunday, March 11, 2012. (AP Photo/Allauddin Khan)
The militant group promised the families of the victims that it would take revenge “for every single martyr with the help of Allah.”
There are still many questions about what happened in the villages of Balandi and Alkozai in Panjwai before dawn Sunday and what motivated the killings.
Afghan President Hamid Karzai condemned the attack and said the 16 dead included nine children and three women. Five other villagers were wounded.
“This is an assassination, an intentional killing of innocent civilians and cannot be forgiven,” Karzai said Sunday.
U.S. military spokesman Lt. Col. Jimmie Cummings confirmed Monday that the number of dead was “in the teens” but declined to be more specific, saying U.S. forces had not been given access to independently count the bodies.
U.S. and Afghan officials have said the attack began around 3 a.m. in the two villages, which are fairly close to a U.S. base in a region that was the focus of President Barack Obama’s military surge in the south starting in 2009.
Villagers described how they cowered in fear as gunshots rang out while the soldier roamed from house to house firing on those inside. They said he entered three homes in all and set fire to some of the bodies. Eleven of the dead were from a single family.
The burning of the bodies may ignite even more outrage because it is seen as the desecration of corpses and therefore against Islam.
U.S. officials said the shooter, identified as an Army staff sergeant, acted alone after leaving his base in southern Afghanistan. Initial reports indicated he returned to the base after the shooting and turned himself in. He was in custody at a NATO base in Afghanistan.
Some Afghan officials and local villagers expressed doubt that a single U.S. soldier could have carried out all the killings in houses more than a mile apart and burned the bodies afterward.
“It is not possible for only one American soldier to come out of his base, kill a number of people far away, burn the bodies, go to another house and kill civilians there, then walk at least 2 kilometers and enter another house, kill civilians and burn them,” said Ayubi.
Some villagers also told officials there were multiple soldiers and heard shooting from different directions. But many others said they only saw a single soldier.
Cummings, the U.S. military spokesman, also said, “There’s no indication that there was more than one shooter.”
The Afghan defense ministry said Monday that its initial reports indicate one soldier carried out the attacks, but they left open the possibility there could have been be more.
“The Afghan defense ministry requests a trial for the perpetrator or perpetrators of this attack,” said a statement.
The soldier suspected of carrying out the attack is from Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Wash., and was assigned to support a special operations unit of either Green Berets or Navy SEALs engaged in a village stability operation, said a U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity because the investigation is still ongoing.
Special operations troops pair with villagers chosen by village elders to become essentially a sanctioned, armed neighborhood watch.
A spokesman for U.S.-led forces in Afghanistan, German Brig. Gen. Carsten Jacobson, said the coalition has increased security following the shootings, describing it as standard practice.
“Of course we have taken security measures following yesterday’s incident,” Jacobson said.
In the wake of the Quran burnings, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. John Allen, visited troops at a base that was attacked last month and urged them not to give in to the impulse for revenge.
The tensions between the two countries had appeared to be easing as recently as Friday, when the two governments signed a memorandum of understanding about the transfer of Afghan detainees to Afghan control – a key step toward an eventual strategic partnership to govern U.S. forces in the country.
Now, another wave of anti-American hatred could threaten the entire future of the mission, fueling not only anger among the Afghans whom the coalition is supposed to be defending but also encouraging doubts among U.S. political figures that the long and costly war is worth the sacrifice in lives and treasury.
Obama phoned Karzai on Sunday to express his shock and sadness, and offered condolences to the grieving families and to the people of Afghanistan.
In a statement released by the White House, Obama called the attack “tragic and shocking” and not representative of “the exceptional character of our military and the respect that the United States has for the people of Afghanistan.“ He vowed ”to get the facts as quickly as possible and to hold accountable anyone responsible.”
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Associated Press writers Rahim Faiez, Amir Shah, Heidi Vogt and Deb Riechmann in Kabul and Mirwais Khan in Kandahar contributed to this report.
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Comments (111)
Rodney777
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 1:19pmO I forgot Obama will apologize AGAIN AGAIN and AGAIN what a WEAK WEAK president! grow some balls tell then to KISS our ass and give this guy a metal! Or punish him for not taking more ammo with him! Anybody But Obama 2012!!!!
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 5:35pmJust dont forget that this is the republicans baby. We had no business staying in afganistan after we drove out the al qaeda (took what, 3 months?). Republicans kept us there too long and now the democraps have picked up the batton. This is no longer right versus wrong – it is just politics. The party in charge will always want war.
war is the health of the state
Report Post »taxwarrior
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:41pmBring them home. Bring them home now. They know that their commander-in-chief has no clue what victory means. And even if he could define it, he doesn’t want it anyways.
Bring them home before any more of them are damaged.
Report Post »do_it_all_again
Posted on March 13, 2012 at 1:23amTell me again how this is any different than what they have and will do to our
Report Post »civilians and our service men and women?
FourthGenFarmer
Posted on March 13, 2012 at 1:21pmHey Glenn…this is your audience…live with that.
Report Post »Rodney777
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 1:13pmpiss on the Korans! and them Idiots…Stop playing with the turds bomb them back to the stone ages..
Report Post »So one of our guys took a few of them out, so what. Them Idiots bomb people all the time.
I say really piss them off burn every Koran you come across then shoot the first little bastard that open his or her mouth! just my 2 cents worth…lol
Huguenot1732
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 4:46pmIs it all fun and games? An Army NCO has killed 16 people, some non-combatants, and all you can come up is this drivel. It’s a sad situation; for the families of the Afghan people killed and for the family of the soldier. The situation has no upside, some innocent people were killed and the children of the soldier will grow up without a father. The Army has for some time now ignored the invisible wounds of war. Ask the Veterans Administration what effect multiple deployments have on the mental state of today’s warriors, stop by your local Vet Center and talk to some of the counselors to see what they have to deal with, look at the number of veterans in the criminal justice system. The system has failed these warriors; since 9/11 the burdens of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have been on the backs of just 0.45% of the US population. Smaller streamlined flexible forces, is just plain BS, we have pushed too few too far for too long, and this is what happens.
Report Post »Rodney777
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 6:35pmWar is hell! Piss on them people. They hid Ben laden your Obama claimed he was the one who killed him. Stop blaming Rep. It’s getting old! Btw plenty of kids after 9/11 miss there family members
Report Post »So stop with the cring. Muslim and afghan people should be thankful we care enough to even help the retards
Parnell3rd
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:10pmthis year in for cinco de mayo, i will burn a mexican flag and a koran!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »B-Neil
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:54pmProsecute the Staff Sergeant only after the taliban turns over the killers of our soldiers. I see the news media propagating the results of our soldiers alleged actions. Very little attenchen to the Killers of our soldiers. When the revolution starts the media will be held accountable for there actions. Sad but true. GOD BLESS AMERICA and INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 1:27pmAs I recall, our nation went into its first period of civil war affectionately and unfortunately called the Revolutionary War when a group of our own military personnel (redcoats) turned and fired on their own contrymen. So is it any surprise or wonder why when a US military member kills 16 civilians in a foreign nation, it incites the people of that nation to increased violence against us? I think that it is absurd the level of arrogance that our nation has when it comes to these things.
Just ask yourself what you would do if members of any of our military branches patroled your neighborhoods with rifles and routinely bombed the homes of suspected murderers. Then ask yourself what you would do if one of them killed 16 of your neighbors and then burned their bodies. I seriously doubt that you would be worried about what happened to them. There is no way to fight a war against an undefined enemy and we should not fight any war unless we are going to fight using total warfare.
Last point. Do you know who Jose Guerera is or why his death matters? The police in this nation are committing the same type of acts that this rogue service member did but they are doing it on a daily basis and some people still wonder why more and more people have a problem with police.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:38pmIf we had listened to Jefferson, Adams, and Washington…none of this would have happened.
Instead…we listen to NWO shills like the CFR and Obama…and many of you fall for it.
So sad….
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »jblovesAmerica
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:28pmThe Trooper killed civilians-how do we know these were civilians.
Report Post »Men in freindly Uniforms have killed our warriors.enough already
Leave this place-pack them up bring home the equipment and the troopers;let them kill one another-
we do not need anything there.
if another 9/11 event is centered in that God Forsaken Place-Nuke it.
amhc_ret
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:26pmIs this the same taliban that has killed thousands of their own people, or do I have them confused with someone else? Or are these the taliban who killed people for burning a book? I’m confused.
Report Post »ALL-IN
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:24pmI am Dissapointed in this solider. Surely he could have done a better job. I know he is much more capable. Congradulations anyhow!!
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:24pmGee…if we would only listen to the founders wisdom…
http://www.fff.org/comment/AdamsPolicy.asp
Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be.
But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy.
She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all.
She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.
She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example.
She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom.
The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force….
She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit….
[America's] glory is not dominion, but liberty. Her march is the march of the mind. She has a spear and a shield: but the motto upon her shield is, Freedom, Independence, Peace. This has been her Declaration: this has been, as far as her necessary intercourse with the rest of mankind would permit, her practice.
John Quincy Adams
Ron Paul 2012…now more than ever.
Report Post »BackstepAndShift
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:01pmIf only these other tough little girls got their heads out of Hannity and Becks game book, (kill them all) and bomb Iran mentallity we might see the good doctor have a chance at RESTORING our Nation.
Report Post »The parisites I see roaming the pages of the Blaze are just that and should reconize themselves as what they are…. sheep!
A bunch of SHEEP GRAZE AT THE BLAZE!
WANT REAL CHANGE AND SECURITY OF YOUR FREEDOMS.
DR.RON PAUL 2012
LETS GIVE OUR NATION BACK THE CONSTITUTION AND US OUR LIBERTYS.
What a bunch of BAAA!!! SHEEP!
Senior Viking
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:05pmThere are mindless savages – they’re easy to identify, they all wear rags on their head.
Where is the outrage for the mulims killing Americans over the koran burning? Where is 0 there?
I hope there is mercy and understanding for this poor Ameican patriot who reached his breaking point.
He had too many deployments. All our troops have been asked to give more than they ought. Maybe we need to look at a draft. We can beef up our troops and also start culling liberals at the same time.
A win win.
Hopefully, this soldier will get a presidential pardon by whomever replaces the 0 in 2012.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:18pmI am for the draft! Even though I was a volunteer and that system has worked relatively well but for many years we have seen the strain of repeated deployments and the gutting of our career enlisted ranks because of it. We live in a very different world now and since 911, we cannot keep rotating people into hell and back and expect them to maintain their personal sanity. We can in fact ask too much of them and I believe we have been doing so for several years now. Suicides are up, Divorces are up, mental breakdowns are up and the toll on these guys is unimagineable. Does this excuse this man? NO of course not but it can explain him. A draft would spread out the contributions to this War effort that is supposed to make our lives safer at home. The home that these soldiers are dying for however is being dismantled while they fight for it.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:30pmA draft for a NWO Boogiyman?
Good God…listen to yourselves!
This Boogyman that you fear so greatly is the very reason you have been hoodwinked into accepting the destruction of the Bill of Rights, and with no BoR…what on earth is worth saving if we all live as prisoners in our own land?
You have been hoodwinked by stooges for the NWO, and all you need to prove this to yourselves is to ask yourself a simply question…Is your foreign policy position closer to that of Obama and the CFR, than it is to Jefferson, Adams, and Washington’s?
Hopefully an intelluctually honest reflection will open your eyes.
Report Post »woebegone
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:03pmLet’s face it, the Taliban vows revenge if they stub a toe on a brick. I am not making light of what happened it was terrible. But the Taliban vowing revenge?, it might be newsworthy if they vowed forgiveness for a change.
Report Post »formidable_foe
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:33amThey don’t know what forgiveness is. That’s something infidels do. All they understand is hatred, rioting, violence, and raising their kids to be just like them.
Report Post »IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:13amMy thoughts and prayers are for the innocent that have been killed and the guilty should be punished by our military court as soon as possible. ANYONE who kills for revenge or pleasure will not be pleasing to God either, So may the judges be true and just and God Bless.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 10:24amGolly, and the Taliban was just about to be our friend too.
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 10:32amI feel like my girlfriend just dumped me for the star quarterback. Screw these savages. This troop was probably tired of getting slapped in the face and having to take it in this modern day Vietnam.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 10:43amIt’s easy. Get out. You, we, don’t belong there.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:34amI want… a Gun… that goes Bang… FASTER!
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:39amSo… this is all just Friendly Fire :)
Report Post »flik221
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:19pmgonzo, u look like my old friend bill, worked at CMI together minturn co, u him?
Report Post »Originalist
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:46amBut it is OK (or at least ignored in the media and Muslim world) for an Afghan soldier to slaughter civilians and US citizens? I am waiting for the day when it is OK for Americans to be as outraged about Muslim atrocities as we allow for them to be a the rare instances one of our does something like this. Where is our rage against the burning of bibles and our flag? Oh right, that would be racist and not politically correct. We need to be able to allow our troops to be as ruthless as the enemy, and get the bleeding heart, anti-American liberals out of the media. We may win all the battles, but our media loses the information battles for us. I am so sick of double standards.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 10:06amIf Afghans were doing that in America, you’d have a point. What part of perspective don’t you get?
Report Post »Originalist
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 2:32pmThey do kill us on our soil, as well as thiers. Just since 9/11:
Report Post »3/19/2002 USA Tuscon, AZ A 60-year-old man is gunned down by Muslim snipers on a golf course.
5/27/2002 USA Denton, TX Muslim snipers kill a man as he works in his yard.
7/4/2002 USA Los Angeles, CA Muslim man pulls out a gun at the counter of an Israeli airline and kills two people.
9/5/2002 USA Clinton, MD A 55-year-old pizzaria owner is shot six times in the back by Muslims at close range.
9/21/2002 USA Montgomery, AL Muslim snipers shoot two women, killing one.
9/23/2002 USA Baton Rouge, LA A Korean mother is shot in the back by Muslim snipers.
10/2/2002 USA Wheaton, MD 1 0 Muslim snipers gun down a program analyst in a store parking lot.
10/3/2002 USA Montgomery County, MD 5 0 Muslim snipers kill three men and two women in separate attacks over a 15-hour period.
10/9/2002 USA Manassas, VA A man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas two days after a 13-year-old is wounded by the same team.
10/11/2002 USA Fredericksburg, VA Man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas.
10/14/2002 USA Arlington, VA A woman is killed by Muslim snipers in a Home Depot parking lot.
10/22/2002 USA Aspen Hill, MD A bus driver is killed by Muslim snipers.
8/6/2003 USA Houston, TX After undergoing a religious revival, a Saudi college student slashes the throat of a Jewish student with a 4″ butterfly knife, nearly decapitating the young man.
Originalist
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 2:35pm12/2/2003 USA Chicago, IL A Muslim doctor deliberately allows a Jewish patient to die from an easily treatable condition.
Report Post »4/13/2004 USA Raleigh, NC A Muslim man runs down five strangers with a car.
4/15/2004 USA Scottsville, NY In an honor killing, a Muslim father kills his wife and attacks his two daughters with a knife and hammer because he feared that they had been sexually molested.
6/16/2006 USA Baltimore, MD A 62-year-old Jewish moviegoer is shot to death by a Muslim gunman in an unprovoked terror attack.
6/25/2006 USA Denver, CO Saying that it was ‘Allah’s choice’, a Muslim shoots four of his co-workers and a police officer.
7/28/2006 USA Seattle, WA An ‘angry’ Muslim-American uses a young girl as hostage to enter a local Jewish center, where he shoots six women, one of whom dies.
2/13/2007 USA Salt Lake City, UT A Muslim immigrant goes on a shooting rampage at a mall, targeting people buying Valentine’s Day cards at a gift shop and killing five.
1/1/2008 USA Irving, TX A Muslim immigrant shoots his two daughters to death on concerns about their ‘Western’ lifestyle.
7/6/2008 USA Jonesboro, GA A devout Muslim strangles his 25-year-old daughter in an honor killing.
2/12/2009 USA Buffalo, NY The founder of a Muslim TV station beheads his wife in the hallway for seeking a divorce.
4/12/2009 USA Phoenix, AZ A man shoots his brother-in-law and another man to death after finding out that they visited a strip club, in contradiction to Islami
Originalist
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 2:36pmWhy was my list of Muslim attacks on Americas deleted?
Report Post »Originalist
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 2:40pmSorry for the above (must have been network error).
I’ll end the list there, but it does continue to this present day, and there were hundreds before that. It doesn’t even include those tortured and beheaded in Iraq and Iran. Remember Daniel Pearl and Nick Berg?
Report Post »However, we Americans are not allowed to be angered when our own are slaughtered or our symbols desecrated.
The_Jerk
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:11am“Taliban Vows Revenge for Apparent Attack by U.S. Soldier That Killed 16 Afghan Civilians”
What human being wouldn’t feel this way? We had a legitimate reason to attack Afghanistan. We have no right to occupy Afghanistan. This concept of invade and occupy is the fatal disease of America. It must stop.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:34pmFinally…a voice of reason.
I’d love to see how these war happy foreign aid lovers would feel if the shoe was on the other foot.
We are quickly heading down the exact same road that Rome did, and as we exhaust our treasury in vain efforts…the sheeple cheer.
Report Post »ThePostman
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:03amThose of you who have not used night vision will not appreciate just what a slaughter this was. With night vision, you see everything and your victims see nothing, they never have a chance. You are shooting people who are just peering into the dark and they see nothing. It is an extreme form of advantage.
That’s how we got bin Laden (if the story is even true, ha!). We “won” in Iraq and Afghanistan because we could see them but they could not see us. It really isn’t a contest to fight at night, and this is why you are constantly hearing about raids staged at night.
It really is just like shooting a blind man while he sleeps. He has no chance to defend himself.
For those of you who sense an impending implosion here – you had better get your night-vision scopes while you still can, because it will be nearly impossible to get one off of a dead “enemy combatant”.
Report Post »SoupSandwich
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:20amThat, or stock up on flares and buckshot. Unless you have stock in a NVG company and loads of disposable income, many other place to blow mula. The tech has become cheaper with the return to predator hunting, but good stuff ain’t cheap.
Report Post »ianmc002
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:03amTIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
So list those reasons…all that fraudulent material about Dr. Paul (such as Amendment 318) so I can debunk the master Becker who’s anti-troop, anti-military. Ron supports our military and their rights to defend themselves…you obviously don’t.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:09amNot a Paul Supporter, although support many of his domestic policies, and we should get the hell out of Afghanistan before we have more innocent American blood needlessly shed. Yesterday might be the proper timing!
Report Post »ianmc002
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:43amcarbonyes I don’t support Paul 100% but very close to that. Nothing amazes me more than people like Time2end spreading disinformation on Dr. Paul. Either he is ignorant…or he is being duplicitous. Glenn Beck did this to with Ron and Earmarking (there is a completely legitimate reason for it, and Ron has never voted for an Earmark) I have yet to find a single vote I disagree with Ron on. There has always been a reason he votes the way he does, or says the things he says.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:56am.
I told ya’ll we should have “Killed Them All” to start with. This playing at War has cost the USA alot of treasure and alot of good men……
In the future ya’ll should ask me to set-up the ROE. We might win for a change…..
Report Post »Boycott the Media Let the People Decide
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:13amSurprise, Surprise another Ron Paul prediction comes to fruition….more people are finally grasping the only logical foreign policy!
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:34am“LOL” pretty much sums Ron Paul up. Every time Ron Paul opens up his yap he insults The United States, apologizes to Islam for us, echoes Bin Laden, Al-Qaeda, the Taliban and insults our Active/Reserve and Guard Forces along with every Vet who has served since WWII. Ron Paul and Obama have a lot in common with each other, except Ron Paul is the foreign policy PROGRESSIVE. At times, Ron Paul has sounded just like Rearend Jeremiah Wright. Yes, Ron Paul is just the man America needs… to test tin foil for the “Nimrod Hall Cooper Foil Co” (real company btw).
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:42am@Time2end
Change your user name to…
I_Am_A_Fool_For_Obamas_Money_And _Mamma’s_Basement
or..
I_Hate_The_Constitution_Freedom_And_Liberty_But_Love_War_and_Welfare_
Yea…the shoe fits….
Report Post »Boycott the Media Let the People Decide
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:43am“First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win.”
― Mahatma Gandhi
Thank you in getting us to the final step TIMETOEND!!!
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:57amBADDOGGY. Ron Paul insults you. You are just too “limited” to see it.
LTC? Lol. Maybe in the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. Say hello to AhmaJimmyCarter’sDad.”
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:59amBOYCOTT. You’d be more believable if you quoted Martin Luther King, but he’s not a Ron Paul Newsletter favorate.
Report Post »ianmc002
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:01amTIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
To bad you don’t have any real dirt on Paul. Why do you hate him so much? Because he wants to cut ALL foreign aid (yes even Israel’s) and use that money here? Because Ron wants to bring our troops home and protect our borders? Why Time?
Report Post »poorrichard09
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:06amThere is a lot we still don’t know about this. THIS SHOULD BE CALLED “WORKPLACE VIOLENCE” LIKE THE FT HOOD MASSACRE, RIGHT?
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:15amIANMCOO2. I’ve got all kinds of dirt on Ron Paul. You just ignore the dirt like most Paul supporters ignore the dirt. I call that a character deficiency in the average Ron Paul supporter, not to mention intellectual dishonesty.
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Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:16am@ TimeToEnd You are RIGHT…..here is quoting Mr. Luther King….Thanks for the remind it’s good advice! That is the best way to compare Dr. Paul to Dr. King….
http://youtu.be/0fyRVa4lzRo
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Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:20amTIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
List it. Let me hear it…then I want you to show it to Glenn.
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Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:24amBOYCOTT. Nice spin, nice cover… lol.
I can cut and paste Ron Paul’s Newsletters referencing MLK, (which would spam this topic so I won’t)… but of course he didn’t write them eh? One of his very closest friends and maybe mentor did right? This one little area shows Ron Paul… who couldn’t manage a Newsletter… certainly can’t manage a nation.
Oh that’s right, forget about the real man behind the curtain… it’s all about ending the Fed. Lol.
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Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:27amTIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
List your ‘dirt’ Time. Let me hear it. Then you can read the rebuttal. Clearly Ron’s nay vote on Amendment 318 was justified. Was it not?
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Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:28amIANMCOO2. Been listing it (dirt on Paul) for months… like you haven’t been paying attention right? Lol.
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Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:36amOh snap TIMETOEND, I thought you were portraying yourself as intellectually honest, if that were true you would know who wrote the newsletters, because I’m generous in educating the poor unable to do it themselves it is explained here>>>http://youtu.be/1SwKixWPz4Q
If that is your biggest attack you can come up with 20 year old newsletters (like the rest of the media you get your information from) I think Ron Paul is in good shape!
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Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:37amTIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
I haven‘t been on this forum for ’months’ so I need you to sum it up for me.
I gotta tell ya though Time…I have been way, way down this road. Every time I check out Paul‘s vote or ’stance’ on something it checks out…just like amendment 318. So lets hear it. Sum it up.
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Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:50amLMAO! Okay BOYCOTT. Aren’t you guys ever embarrassed? Send an Alex Jones video from YouTube next time also… lol.
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Posted on March 12, 2012 at 10:01amTIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
AJ vs. Glenn Beck? AJ any day. I’m no fan of either really but AJ teaches the most important lesson that could ever be taught…THINK FOR YOURSELF.
Why does Glenn not teach this lesson to his mindless myrmidons?
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Posted on March 12, 2012 at 10:10am@Boycott the Media Let the People Decide
Surprise, Surprise another Ron Paul prediction comes to fruition….more people are finally grasping the only logical foreign policy!
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Hmm. The only surprise is your username. The People have already voted to send RP back to his ranch in TX. You can all move down there and build another WACO, while Obama — whom you will help re-elect — sets his new Active Denial heat-ray to six seconds in your direction.
BTW, the main point of contention between the Ron Paul cult and libs vs. the rest of America is not Afghanistan. It’s Iran… you know, the country Ron Paul visited in 2009, aka the most active sponsor of terrorism in the world. The one that can’t wait to wipe Israel off the map. Yawn, who cares.
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 10:43amWho makes up Ron Pauls district in Texas? Who are the the folks that continue to vote him in and why? (spare me the flag waivin’, constitution crap) Just curiouse.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 11:59am@Patriot…Yea that CONSTITUTION thingy sure gets in the way doesn’t it??????
Change your name to COMMUNIST why dont you?
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:08pmWhat you all need to know is….TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12 works for the TSA, and knows that if Paul is elected there will be no more warrantless strip searching of 88 year old women…and that really is upsetting to this Police State worshiping tool.
This hack is simply worried about an immoral job…thus the obvious desperation.
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Posted on March 12, 2012 at 3:48pmOh NO Kryptonite brought up the illusive Iranian boogyman and the famous “they have weapons of mass destruction” we cannot have that!!!! Quick everyone overreact…..again…
We’ve already seen these story play out, we don’t need to repeat history…..
Report Post »freedomofspeech
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:06amwell of course they will, that’s all they do. I don’t believe them much anyway. Time to cut our losses and get out of there. Longer we stay the more our troops are in danger, and I really don’t see the feds having their backs. something smells fishy.
Report Post »ChildofJesus
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:04amall the more reason to get the heck out of dodge. What are we waiting for? we got what we wanted in Saddam and Osama!
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:04am.
Do I smell a Obama set-up? Would not surprise me to find out this Sgt. voted for Obama. Quran burning, now this and why women and children? Why not a street full of men protesting? Something does not smell right, smells like Obama………
Need to watch his family to see if they get paid……
Report Post »nolefan2
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 10:25amI wonder the same thing. What better way to stir up the Afghan people against the Americans than for a soldier to kill civilians. We need more information on the background of this soldier. Also, it could be revenge for the soldiers killed after the Koran incident.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:02amI agree and disagree with YOUGOTTABEKIDDING comment. As an individual who inspires to enlist in the military you have think critically and at times be polite to encourage civilians accepting your troops in their county. Even if I agree the Taliban and other militant terrorist groups kill civilians the difference is how we fight. American troops are moral compared to the terrorist whose backwards logic is all to common in the countries in the Middle East. Now I’m not 100% correct but you can understand where I’m coming from on how war is fought on and off the battle field.
Report Post »SoupSandwich
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:12amDo you inspire others to join in your stead or are you aspiring after finishing a liberal arts degree in order to visit strange lands, meet interesting peoples, learn their cultures and then kill them? Peace Corpse is hiring too. Homage to the big 0, you dig? I was inspired in turn.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 7:57amGet our troops out of there and bring them all home. Let the Middle East have it’s Muslim Civil War.
Report Post »This is the result of not declaring war on an exact enemy, Nation building andd giving goodwill to Barbarians…Leave them alone, they will kill each other.
Locked
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:05am“Get our troops out of there and bring them all home. Let the Middle East have it’s Muslim Civil War.”
Agreed. If they wanna fight themselves to death, go for it. Bring our guys home.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 10:51amyes our guys need to come home now. I am amazed that this story is getting so much more reporting time than the story of the afghans killing our US soldiers over the past few weeks. I think this guy snapped. He is from my local base. Its time to get out of there it is a war that cannot be won. The afghans don’t want to change they like their savage country we need to go. Can’t wait for more of the Presidents apology tour on this one. I feel for anyone that loses a child but I feel our government disregards the american loss of life over there.
Report Post »Abraham Young
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 7:56amLet’s send more tax dollars overseas to “defend our country and its honor”. Yeah, that’s a great idea Glenn Beck and Rick Santorum. Let’s patrol the world and wipe out anyone who disagrees with us on any issue, rather than take care of our mounting debts at home.
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:24amGiven free choice, how many do you see adopting kids from other countries other than “our own”? How many groups travel to these small countries on a mission in the name of helping the “less fortunate”, meanwhile Americans starve here at home?
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:27amagree! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2NsXQcBtOQ&feature=related
Report Post »drago
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:45am@abraham young aka encinom.
Report Post »Your comment about Beck and Santorum, wtf are you talking about idiot?
ashestoashes
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:55am@DRAGO Wow! You don‘t get what he’s talking about? He’s talking about them wanting to police the world and nation building..that’s what..there is only one man running with the courage to stop the insanity of the trillion dollar futile wars and who will get this country out of debt..one man…
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Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:58amYoung-
Report Post »We need to put a stop to all aid/blackmail in the Mid east, zero African aid, no Euro bailouts, nada para Mehico, and get 90% of our own malingerers off the dole to even make a dent in our current debt. Shirley, we can at least have a week long mad minute before we pull out completely and leave the Afghans zero in equipment also. We could leave a large contingent of libs for police/security training though just for the entertainment factor.
yougottabekidding
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 7:52amLet me get this straight:
Report Post »These savage primatives that wipe their butt with their hand, behead their own people, bomb their own places of worship with other people of their own religion and distroy Korans in the process. ALL THE TIME!
Are calling us what? Because of one wack job.
Was he a Muslim?
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Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:17amOh no here comes a Fox News Channel diatribe…..
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