Teen Atheist Behind Prayer Mural Ban Threatened with Rape: ‘We Will Get You — Look Out!’
- Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:32am by
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Teen atheist Jessica Ahlquist
Jessica Ahlquist, the 16-year-old atheist who made national headlines after winning a battle to have a prayer mural removed from her high school in Cranston, Rhode Island, continues to receive threatening messages. But the latest letter to arrive at her home would make even the bravest individual quiver.
The message within it gives Ahlquist, who has been praised by church-state separatists but derided by those who supported the presence of the banner at Cranston High School West, legitimate reason to fear for her safety. The writer references rape and pledges to “get her.” The disturbing message also makes a point to note the teen’s relatives, including her sister and father, and advises that her sister “watch her back.”
Ahlquist originally shared the note on Twitter along with the hashtag #christianlove. Of course, there’s no way of telling if the note came from a Christian — or even if the threats are credible. Police, though, are reportedly investigating. Here’s a screen shot of the tweet (via the Friendly Atheist):
“The cops will not watch you forever,” the letter begins. “We will get you good.”
The note concludes with some startlingly strong and threatening language against Ahlquist.
“Get the f**k out of R.I. you bitchin whore. You are nothing more than a sex-toy of a slut,” the text reads. “Maybe you will gang-banged before we throw you out of one of our cars. We will get you — look out!”
So far, Ahlquist hasn’t responded to local outlets seeking comment.
(H/T: Cranston Patch)
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DisgustedinCT
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:07pmI don’t agree with her views and believe she is nothing more than a pawn and now she is learning what being a pawn means.
Report Post »Christians are told to turn the other cheek and not to judge others, but that is being used against us.
At what point do we say enough is enough?
At what point do we stop talking and start taking action?
Now with having said that, I personally believe it is her own group sending her that letter because she is a great pawn to use and this will bring even more attention to these Godless people.
Sorry kid, but you brought this upon yourself.
I would watch my back if I were you, I wouldn’t put it past your own group hurting you and trying to blame Christians for those actions.
Life is tough but even tougher for morons.
Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:11pmI’ve said it before, but it bears repeating.
At the center of every Religionist’s heart is a tiny core of hate.
Thank you for proving my point.
HorseCrazy
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:21pm^^^ I truly am sorry that you feel that way and have been shown by some religious people a side that is rude, uncaring and generally awful. Not all Christians are, just some, but like any large group of people, the rudest ones generally are the loudest about their beliefs and can get very self righteous. at the core of Christianity is that God is Love. LPHP, I know you see love in your life, that is what God is all about. Have a great day
Report Post »DeavonReye
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:23pmUm, . . .why the HELL would atheists do this??? The Reason Rally LOVED her! This can only be the work of a demented mind who was angry at HER part in having the mural down. This “atheists must have done it to . . . . . . .blah blah blah” is SO pathetic.
Report Post »Biddle
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:28pmThere is no point to say enough is enough. Jesus did not stutter. Turn thee other cheek means turn the other cheek. Search the gospels and see. The blood of the new covenant changed EVERYTHING. Mustard seed faith literally moves mountains. Even the ones that pose a viable threat to your safety. Few find it. I am not saying self defense is completely off limits….but its close, and if you have seen Him then you know what I mean. Humility is powerful….its just not your own power, its His. And it works mightily if we can abandon ourselves and truly walk in His strength. Then it is His strength made mighty in our weakness….and only then. When you walk like this, even your “friends” will abandon you, because they are skeptical. You must have an agenda, you must want something, you must be…….NO…..its because you have seen “Him.” And now you know you are dust (and just dust without HIM). Wheat and tares my friend, do not be discouraged. Bless you.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:29pm@lesbianpacking……….I saw nothing hateful in Disgustedinct’s post. He stated a fact. This girl is a pawn, she is being used and she was thrilled by her position of power over Christianity.The liberals and the atheists took one sentence out of the Bible, turn the other cheek, and has used that sentence as a bludgeon for decades. If we Christians had shown a little spine instead if sitting on our pious butts over the years America might not be in the shape it is in now.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:31pmThe only reason this gets in the news in the first place is because she has taken her seat with those who also hate God. I doubt very seriously this came from a real Christian because anyone who has repented and received Christ is not going to do something like this.
Report Post »Coelitus
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:34pm@ Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
I think at the center of EVERY heart is a tiny core of hate.
Why is it you are packing hollow points? To love thy neighbor or turn the other cheek? To love thy enemy? Why not pack a round that will cause a little less damage?
Religious people are no more perfect than non-religious. We all are human. You can’t put religious people into that category without including everyone else.
The challenge is to try to be like him, Jesus who was perfect.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:34pm@momrules….agreed! Don’t forget the other whip the Left uses! Judge not lest ye be judged.
Report Post »txn4justice
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:39pmPeople please think. Jesus is not an advocate for violence against this girl or anyone. If you don’t believe it; read the Bible.
She is a foolish girl, but most of us are at one time or another.
No true Christian would advocate any harm toward her.
“Those without sin, cast the first stone” said the Lord.
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:41pmWhy would athiests do it? The same reason that blacks were caught burning crosses in front of buildings. It’s done to bring hype, media coverage and sympathy to the “victim”. It’s called a publicity stunt. I don‘t know if that’s what happened or not but, I do know this: whoever wrote this letter is not a born-again diciple of Jesus Christ nor do they even claim to be. It of itself is contrary to every command Jesus gave to His followers. Most christians don’t care. She had mural taken down. Ohhh, that shakes my faith. True believers expect both hatred and persecution just as Christ promised would come because the ungodly hates Christ. So they naturally hate his people. We pity this poor girl, not hate her.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:44pmI don’t care what happens to her. I am sick of these atheists tell the rest of us what is right and what is wrong. Get her. You reap what you sow.
Report Post »InversionTheory
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:46pmThe amount of hate you encounter from someone with respect to their beliefs is inversely proportional to how seriously they take their beliefs and how strongly you reject their beliefs.
A committed atheist who confronts a fundamentalist Young Earth Creationist is going to have a far more negative encounter than an agnostic confronting an occasional churchgoer who believes that God is the perfect answer to any gaps in our current scientific understanding.
Think about it from the theist’s perspective, if they’re trying to save you from eternal damnation, can they justify any actions to that end? They certainly have done so in the past.
Report Post »DisgustedinCT
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:53pmI need to clarify this:
I love it.
Liberal pukes like you p*****ng and moaning in the wind because people like me speak our minds.
Of course because we do, we are hateful,
I put the comma in the wrong place it should be like this and I should have added this.
Of course, because we do we are hateful to people like you,
I’m not truly hateful,
I’m just tired of the bull,
I’m tired of the attacks on the christian faith,
I’m tired of liberals trying to regulate every aspect of our lives,
I’m tired of liberals trying to dicate how I should live my life.
I’m tired of liberals trying to tell me how I should speak and think of others.
One good example: Gay marriage
Report Post »I believe this is wrong completely, marriage is between a man and woman.
What I do believe in is a civil union that allows gays all the same benifits.
We had this in CT but the gays kept pushing it demanding marriage.
Why? they had the same rights in a civil union, why marriage?
To break down traditions of course to make being gay acceptable.
What you do in your house is your business and between you and GOD, when you shove it in my face it becomes my business.
When you try to teach my kids it is an acceptable way of life, I draw the line. Being gay is a choice and a life style not a way of life.
But of course because I am vocal, I am hater, homophobic, etc…
Sorry I don’t care, I will still speak my mind regardless.
turkey13
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:54pmHer parents should be held in jail for child endangerment! Everyone involved in this should be – ACLU.- The judge – Athiests. In the picture of her going in court she looks like a 16 year old ******. What do these people expect? I‘m sure that pretty soon if it doesn’t happen one of the groups will attack and rape her to blame the religious nut who wrote the note.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:19pm@Disgustedinct
“At what point do we say enough is enough?
At what point do we stop talking and start taking action?”
Apparently that point is when a teenager is threatened with rape and you want to tacitly support it.
“Now with having said that, I personally believe it is her own group sending her that letter because she is a great pawn to use and this will bring even more attention to these Godless people.
Sorry kid, but you brought this upon yourself.”
Ah, innocent until proven guilty being thrown out the window. Not even a call to look into finding who sent the letter; just automatic judgment.
I cannot for one second believe you worship Jesus Christ. No one who listens to His words in the Bible would support the things you’ve said. Judging others? Condoning rape threats? “You get what you deserve?” Let me tell you something: ALL humans are flawed and we all deserve an eternity without God. But know what? Jesus forgives and loves us, and gave unto us a new Commandment: to love others as he loves us. Drop the hate. Follow the Lord. I’ll pray that this girl does the same.
Report Post »loveliberty83
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:24pmI agree i think they are trying to get attention or she is writing these herself. what teen would even start trouble like this unless she is craving attention, most lids her age try to get along withothers
Report Post »captaincameron
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:25pm“You brought this upon yourself.”
Report Post »Really?
This little girl voiced her opinion. Her misguided and wrong opinion (but then that’s my opinion).
That should not make her a target for the threat of rape.
Leopold
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:28pm@Lesbian
Do you really believe this girl came up with this idea to remove a mural? She got up one morning and decided, yep this is what I am going to do today?
I don’t believe for a minute that a Christian threatened her with rape.
That came from a sick person. And I feel sorry for this girl.
She is 16, how was she going to know what atheists are really up to. What they would do to her.
This has all been instigated by atheists.
Now they are hiding behind rumors and false threats.
They will use her until they will drop her.
These atheists are shameless people. Full of hate and they don’t care one bit for this girl.
Typical of atheists.
They cannot stand alone in their hate, so they evangelize and use even little children.
What fools. They don’t even know that they are useful tools for satan.
Atheists, who do this to kids have a special place reserved just for them.
Just like muslims, who teach their children to hate and kill.
They too have a special place reserved for them.
But as long as they live they have a chance to change their destination.
GPS-Tech
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:38pm@Lesbian Licking Hollow Parts
Report Post »WoW! A sexual deviant that doesnt believe in religion. Isnt that original.
sawbuck
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:46pm@LPHP
Sorry we Christians gave you the wrong idea
That lead to your sweeping analogy of us.
We as Christians are human too.
We at the present, are witnessing a full assault on Christianity and
our whole way of life..
Please excuse some here, for being a tad short with somewhat callused
opinions toward people, that our Bible shows us,
will be used ;deceived and lead astray , in this war on Christianity .
This Girl put herself right smack-dab in the middle of this war..
And yes this girl is being used..
I do Not condone the behavior of whomever TWEETED her
with such hate …but my first thought of that is ..
Whoever talked like that is NOT a Christian.
there is nobody that has a close relationship with our Lord Jesus..
and carries this kind of conduct …
“Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things
have passed away; behold, all things have become new” (2 Corinthians 5:17)
This person who wrote that tweet ..Follows another..
And is NOT a Christian…We shall know them by there fruits….
Well… this is NOT one of the fruits becoming of a Christian.
We all know as Christian.. We are to hold to a higher standard .
And as such.. We should be careful how we say things.
The Lord Jesus.. Tells us..
.it’s NOT what goes IN the mouth ..But what comes OUT of it..
That defiles a man ..
And your generalized comment broad-stroking the whole Christian
Community …is one of the reasons.
majasdad
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:52pm@LESBIAN PACKING HOLLOW POINTS
Exactly. Well said.
Report Post »Cavallo
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:58pmIt might also be herself who sent it. There have been quite a few false racist attacks staged by activists on campuses to drum up scandal for the activist. With the police investigating it would be wise to wait to see what their investigation reveals. Whoever might have sent it (including if it was herself) they are disturbed and twisted and definately need to seek help.
Report Post »smokie
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:59pmLoveLiberty,
Report Post »Exactly my thought, analyze the letter and her own handwriting together. I suspect the young lady is addicted to attention.
Besides, anyone that would use the word “sexy” in reference to her would write much larger, as the writer would be in need of a pair of Bubbles glasses
encinom
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 2:10pm“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Gandhi
What passes for Christians today is nothing more than a collection of hated-filled, paranoid, bigots led by loud mouths and scam artists.
Report Post »Treaty
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 2:34pmI predict she authors a book in the very near future LOL.
Report Post »kadster01
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 2:48pm@TXN4JUSTICE, I can safely say I have never in my life been a foolish girl. I have, however, been a smart ass man on many occasions. :-)
Just trying to insert a little humor…
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 3:11pmWhoever is making the threats needs to face the penalty for such threats.
P.S.
At the center of the LGBT movement there is a very big core of hate.
Parting shot: How is it that Hillary Rosen adopts twins & she & her partner split 3 years later? What is up with that situation. These are 2 mature, englightened non-judgemental adults.
Report Post »seanscythe
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 3:43pmThe phrase “Turn the other Cheek” isn’t what some take it as, it means to insult the person that just slapped you on the face. Because it forces them to use the other hand or the back of the hand that hit you. It’s an insult to them, it doesn’t mean to look the other way as many have come to take it.
Report Post »seanscythe
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 3:45pmIf the persecuted person “turned the other cheek,” the discipliner was faced with a dilemma. The left hand was used for unclean purposes, so a back-hand strike on the opposite cheek would not be performed.[4] The other alternative would be a slap with the open hand as a challenge or to punch the person, but this was seen as a statement of equality. Thus, by turning the other cheek the persecuted was in effect demanding equality.
Report Post »Pearsontech
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 3:48pmWow that is just horrible I do feel sorry for her even if I totally and utterly disagree with her she doesn’t deserve that. Nothing in the note says it came from a “Christian” however not everyone that says they are a “Christian” truly is one or even knows what it truly means to be Christian. Anyone can say they are a Christian but the proof is in their fruit and if the person that wrote that letter to the girl ever claims to be a Christian then it is nothing more than talk and they are not Christian by any stretch of the imagination
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 3:58pm@ Coelitus:
You posed the only question to me of any real substance. Bravo.
I carry hollow points because they have proven stopping power. Not killing power. Not maiming power. Stopping power. If god forbid (to coin a phrase) I am ever pressed to defend my life with deadly force, I want that defense to come in the form of hollow points because they have the greatest likelihood of stopping my attacker with a single hit.
Were I to defend myself with a simpler round, ball, truncated cone, etc., it becomes highly more likely that I may fire at my attacker, hitting them, and yet not terminating their attack on me. That will necessitate firing another round, hitting my attacker through a completely different wound channel than before. If my attacker is hopped up on drugs or incredibly persistent, I might even have to fire a third time, forming yet another wound channel, doing even more damage to their vital organs before their body experiences enough shock to force them to terminate their attack upon my person.
All of this greatly increases the probability that I will have had to actually kill my attacker in order to preserve my own life. I don’t want that.
A JHP round, because it forms a larger, single wound channel and imparts all of its energy to my attacker, is far more likely to terminate their attack on me with far less damage to themselves, increasing their own likelihood of surviving their foolhardy attack. There’s also the issue of over-penetration to consid
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 4:04pmTo Lesbian Packing -
There have been numerous cases where people have made claimed a hate crime was committed against them and then upon investigation, it turned out that they staged it themselves.
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/12/02/another-fake-noosehate-incident/
http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/UNC_Chancellor_Hate_Crime_Report_Was_Fake_119745429.html
http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=2457
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna_Constantine
I truly hope that the police are able to track down WHOEVER is responsible and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. This particular letter seems to be overflowing with hate. No one should be threatened like that, but it happens every day.
There are people who want to make a point, so they ratchet up the emotions and have people, particularly the police, running around in circles. I hope the police nail the author right and tight.
Report Post »Leehweht
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 4:31pm@ Lesbian. What is your point of saying “every religionist’s heart”? As if…….… It is ALL of mankind’s heart, saved or not, religious or not. It is his nature. For it is written. Jer 17:9 The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Report Post »Crazyotto
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 4:51pmFirst of all no one knows if the letter is real and who sent it.. from the langauge it appears to be the work of the NBPP and one King Shabazz-a-bub… If it is real I would bet it is the work of some gined-up pimple faced kid who lack of testicular manhood would prevent him carrying out the act…Most the Christians I know may be angered by this (rightfully so) but would never attack the girl who is probably as equally clueless as the author of the letter..
To the “Lesbian packin hollow points ” I may not be a Christian but I sure don’t hate them like you do .. I have read a lot of your postings and if it has to do with Whites, Males, Christians you can bet you will be slammin them and hard… It always amazes me how much the left likes to hate those with whom they disagree with or that won’t buy into their B.S.. It sounds like you need to work out a little frustration on the range…
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 5:09pm@MIL-DOT
Are you serious? Christians make it their life‘s mission to tell us what’s right and wrong.
To say you have no problem with this 16 year old from being gang raped and thrown out of a (more than likely) moving vehicle is sickening. These are Christians in anger over a prayer mural, willing to commit multiple crimes!!!
She didn’t commit a crime yet you have no problem having her body, her property, being violated against her will.
Who are you people? How is a lowly Agnostic like myself have more compassion for those that have a difference of opinion then the great followed of compassionate Jesus Christ?
All I can say is…. face palm.
Report Post »Crazyotto
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 5:24pmIf it is in fact real I would imagine it was written by a pimply-faced young boy who lacks the testicular fortitude to even approach the girl let alone carry out the hideous act of rape… it truly sounds more like the incoherent rantings of either Calypso Louie or King Shabazz-a-bub of the NBPP… True Christians would not get angry with the girl but rather pray for a different outcome and against the satan that is behind it… Can’t say for sure as I am not a true Christian (at least not according to some)
I will say that “Lesbian packing hollowpoints” needs to lighten up on Christians.. I realize that you hate those that don’t buy into your lifestyle B.S. but you need to give to Christians a break.. they aren’t the enemy. Try hitting the range and shooting off a few hundred rounds of your favorite ammo…
Report Post »Neo Con John
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 5:38pmLez gitn packed in the hollowpoint,
Report Post »It amazes me that that you can make such a blanket statement about people of faith, when in fact it is the your crowd on the left that has no acceptence of any opinions thar differ from your own.
As for the young lady in the story, NO ONE,BUT NO ONE should make such a remark regarding any woman being violated or attacked. God speed to the authority’s in catching this sick person.
I sure she now knows that even at the young age of sixteen, she has put herself into a world of attention she never knew existed. I pray for her safety.
VanceUppercut
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 6:28pm@DisgustedinCT
“Life is tough but even tougher for morons.”
Life must be extremely tough for you then.
Report Post »FoxholeAtheist
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 6:59pmDo tell me, Disgusted, when exactly did you choose to be straight?
Report Post »Kane Freeman
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 7:01pm@Biddle Right On! It’s nice to know their are Christians that actaully try to follow the Gospel.
Report Post »lordjosh
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 7:18pm@ txn4justice
I was a foolish girl at one time. How did you know?
Report Post »22hornet
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 7:25pmThey will eat their own just to get noticed.
Report Post »wdittgasn
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:55pmWhy should her religion trump any other
Report Post »stephenmarkovich
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:55pm1. That Christians are taught to “turn the other cheek” is meant to mock the aggressor. Offering the other cheek states that violence will not solve the problem at hand. HOWEVER, Christians are commanded (yes, commanded) to use self defense even deadly self defense against an aggressor. In this case, this woman IS an aggressor and her attackers, to a certain degree, could be justified.
Her fate would serve as a warning to others who wish to trample God’s name and works.
2. And while the Bible is clear humans are forbidden to judge anothers SOUL, we are commanded to judge their ACTIONS – particularly GRAVE actions like hers. Ezekiel 33: 1 – 9 makes this VERY clear. If she is not warned that what she does is grave and she dies with this sin, we are responsible for her death. But if she is warned and persists, she will die (the second death) and Christians will be save.
3. That said, Christians must become more militant in their defense of Christ. Not necessairly violent, although violence does have a place, albeit rare. We are comanded to speak and act FEARLESSLY throughout the Bible.
4. She mocks Christ and Christians. She turns from this or seals whatever fate comes her way.
Report Post »gragra
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 10:12pmI believe when you believe one thing that has no evidence to support it, then you can easily believe other things that have no evidence.
Report Post »thetreyman
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 10:16pmwhen you put yourself in the spotlight you are bound to pick up a few crazies. good luck to her.
Report Post »thetreyman
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 10:43pm@gragra
if you dont believe in god and religion means nothing to you, why do you seek out the confrontation? i clicked on your name and noticed that the stories all had something to do with religion. are you obsessed with religion or insulting people who dont believe as you. it gets you really frustrated doesnt it, what with all the unenlightened sheep around. i bet you would make a great ruler of a country. then you could just force everyone to believe as you do. you may not even have to kill any of your serfs, that would be a first. how does dear leader sound to you. i like it. it looks good on you. the nation of gragra, there’s a place i want a summer home. at least there wont be any of those evil christians trying to tell you about god and whats right and wrong, moral and immoral.
Report Post »The Jewish Avenger
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 9:23amSo anyone going to point out some obvious suspicions?
I STRONGLY suspect that it was either her, her “friends”, or a pissed off suppressed student.
Why?
Tell me what grade did you STOP using thick lined paper?
There is no perforation on the left or right edge so its not a book, or a composition book so must have come from a ream.
Who in their right mind would buy a ream/box of jr. high school/elementary lined non perferated paper?
A school would.
Writer was right handed, so that stinks. southpaw would’ve been faster, but what are the odds?
How many would use the words Christians in quotes? It’s not emphasis in my opinion… however a NON BELIEVER in a Christian would find the word foreign or even uncomfortable due to the outrage that they have been receiving from them. Notice I put in the beginning ” her ‘friends’”?, that because I believe that these pro-aclu sheep are NOT her friends, thus a mockery. so, what was the point of quoting Christian? (Capitalizing Christian must’ve killed them.) Taking THAT into consideration, it makes more sense to me.
So, whats the punishment for self threatening via the U.S. mail in R.I.?
…for a minor?
I smell a set up.
Thoughts? (Besides your opinion of me ATM, thank you :) )
Report Post »HUGGINGMYBABIES
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 10:36amI suspect a self written letter, to keep herself in the lime light……once bitten by fame, the heart cannot survive without it. Money was given to her freely and she was lauded as a champion of the atheist cause……the media left, the hoopla died, and a young impressionable girl, with the fresh taste of fame and glory on her lips……needed bother sip…..and no doubt more money :D
Report Post »gperky
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 12:50pmI fully agree with what you are saying. This girl wanted attention and she is getting attention. This banner that has been hanging for so many years in no way could cause harm to someone that is an atheist or disagrees with what it says. This girl like so many ignorant, wanted her 15 minutes of fame and now has it. I agree that Christians need to stop turning the other cheek and fight back. This doesn’t mean to harm someone physically but do so legally. We as the majority in America have given in so much for so long that we are letting a small few dictate what we can and cannot do. Enough is Enough!
Report Post »INOGAWD
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 2:14pm@Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Report Post »Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:11pm
I’ve said it before, but it bears repeating.
At the center of every Religionist’s heart is a tiny core of hate.
Thank you for proving my point.
Why do these Righteous POS continue to Get In OUR Face ????
New mission for them at Camp Peneldton..Marine Base, don’t
these Trolls have anything better to do ???? What ever happened
to “Live and Let Live ??? you talk about “tiny core of hate”, you bet !
I wouldn’t have any problem with putting My fist in one of one of these
PUKES face… don’t mind fighting for what I believe..Leave us alone !!
INOGAWD
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 3:14pmI am Catholic, I DO not push My religion on ANYONE….I also have
Report Post »several good friends that are Atheist, and they have no problem with
my beliefs.. But there are a small minority that remind me of toddlers
throwing tantrums to get attention.. well this gal is getting it, gotta take
good along with the BAD… Leave Us alone, NO PROBLEM !!!!!!!
“but it was for your ultimate benefit” BRUCE P.. Thanks but No Thanks.
JUST STAY OUT OF OUR FACES !!!! Thank You..
Locked
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 4:42pm@STEPHENMARKOVICH
“HOWEVER, Christians are commanded (yes, commanded) to use self defense even deadly self defense against an aggressor. In this case, this woman IS an aggressor and her attackers, to a certain degree, could be justified.
Her fate would serve as a warning to others who wish to trample God’s name and works.”
Let me get this straight. You believe that the Bible, in stating one should turn the other cheek, means that following our Constitution and taking down an establishment of religious belief in a public school should be met with gang rape and assault on a 16-year old girl? Do I have that right?
As a Christian, I read your words and wonder what kind of belief you can follow. From a satanist? I could understand it. From a brutal dictator? Sure. But from someone who follows Christ? Never.
I don’t know what you are religiously, but morally you’re an abomination. I don‘t agree with this girl’s belief (or lack thereof), but I also don‘t believe for a second you’d get to heaven before she will.
Report Post »diamondlee
Posted on April 14, 2012 at 12:13amI HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU—what did she expect when she took the divine protective shield away…the devil and his servants don’t give care for you….you just now belong to them–you are on their territory and the ground is unholy….some people have to learn the hard way and i guess she will too….its like the household who had a sign in their window saying ”’gun free home”’—–that nite they were robbed at gunpoint by thieves who had guns.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on April 14, 2012 at 12:42amGood points: Case in Point… MLK
Report Post »SSKmommy
Posted on April 14, 2012 at 4:22pm@disgustedinct: I have to agree with you. No Christian would ever send a letter like that. Most of us don’t give a flying fig about murals or banners or whatever being taken down because some irrational atheist feels the need to screech about it. God resides in our hearts and souls, not a banner, mural, or nativity scene. Sorry non-believers but that is something that you can never take away.
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 2:07am@SSKmommy
Report Post »“I have to agree with you. No Christian would ever send a letter like that.”
How convenient it is that a Christian is no longer a Christian when they do something bad.
The Third Archon
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 12:26am“This can only be the work of a demented mind who was angry at HER part in having the mural down.”
Report Post »It has been said, that nothing burns hotter than the truth.
sloranger
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:24pm“When do we say enough is enough?” I feel like atheists are finally saying enough is enough. Christians get everything they want in this country and some of us, not just atheists, have grown tired of it. It’s funny to see a quote like that, as if they are an oppressed minority.
“Sorry kid, you brought this upon yourself. I would watch my back if I were you.” What a disgusting thing to say. I don’t know what a girl of her age could possibly do to deserve to be raped. I’m sorry, but its really hard to justify rape. If she had killed a few people, it could be argued that she in turn should be put to death for those crimes. But no person deserves to be raped. Ever.
“Life is tough but even tougher for morons.” I couldn’t agree more with this sentiment. Studies have found that on average the atheists among us: earn higher incomes, stay married longer, are less likely to end up in jail, make up 97% of the National Academy of Science, live longer and happier lives, have higher IQs, have a deeper understanding of morality and ethics (not “morals and values” real issues pertaining to what is ethically or morally just), and are better critical thinkers. It really must be tough to be a Christian. I mean moron sorry.
Report Post »mycomet123
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 10:51am@LESBIAN PACKING HOLLOW POINTS, Why do you ASSUME this letter was sent by a “religious person”? (whatever that means?, since there are pagan religions). How do you know that this letter wasn’t sent by another atheist, to make christians look bad?.
Report Post »ronin_6
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 4:33pmTo turn the other cheek does not mean to lay down and take it. It means to show courage. To be bold and not to let those that would destroy you see your fear or compromise your beliefs. You sound like someone who is waiting for somebody else to stand up for you. Well maybe your the person who is supposed to be standing up so the rest of can draw strength from you.
Report Post »Bucky_1
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:59pmI would more likly think that a no Christian wrote this , because Christians don’t use that kind of speech. We do not swear or join in hate speech.
Report Post »Tri-ox
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:05pmWell, she wanted to cause a stir – she wanted national attention, and it looks like she has gotten her wish. I would not be surprised if this and all supposed threats that she has received are all part of some grand scheme that she and her parents have concocted in coordination with national atheism and liberal activism groups. This girl is being used by her own family and others, as a tool to push obama’s destructive agenda, and she may not be intelligent or mature enough to realize it.
Report Post »DeavonReye
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:10pmWhat an utterly ridiculous statement! O_o
Report Post »DaveIn84
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:22pmDeavonReye
Report Post »What’s ridiculous about this?
DeavonReye
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:35pmWell, Dave, . . . Let’s just take a look:
“Well, she wanted to cause a stir – she wanted national attention, and it looks like she has gotten her wish.”
Show me the evidence that she “wished for notes from crazed men threatening her with RAPE”!
“I would not be surprised if this and all supposed threats that she has received are all part of some grand scheme that she and her parents have concocted in coordination with national atheism and liberal activism groups.”
When things don’t make sense, . . . . . start a conspiracy theory. *facepalm*
Report Post »JGraham III
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:13pmGenerally I believe the best policy re: atheists is to haul off and leave them alone. Most of them are just seeking their 15 minutes of fame, and I don’t think this girl is any different. If these threats are truly geniune, then turn them over to the authorities, since prayer and asking God for protection aren’t an option (!) If they are made up as some have suggested, then this too will be revealed.
Report Post »As an historic note, it was reported some years ago that Madelyn Murray O’Hare met a horrible and untimely end. I did not rejoice nor will I if harm comes to this girl. But it must be said that if a person flips God the middle finger, He at least is still a Gentleman and gives the atheist what they desire: a life without Him .
COFemale
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 2:43pmdeavon obviously you can’t think like a 16 year old girl who recently found new attention and then had none? What better way to get yourself in the limelight.
If she did not generate this letter or one of her friends, then whomever did should be found and charged accordingly. If she or a friend wrote this letter to bring attention back to herself, then she should receive any warranted charges.
I pray that you are right and she did not fake the letter, but you can’t discount that she did.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 2:50pmOne day, it will come out that she was involved in the creation of this letter, just to continue string the pot, liberal attention whores never get enough attention.
Report Post »Reuben12
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 4:35pm@JGRAHAM III
Also, Madalyn Murray O’Hair was murdered by a fellow atheist who worked for her Atheists of America organization.
Report Post »bonhoeffer
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:04pmSounds like an atheistic dream date
HorseCrazy
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:22pmnot cool at all. not even slightly appropriate or funny. just not this is a young girl and even if she was 30 I would still be disgusted.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:42pmDisgusting. Atheists no more want to be raped than anyone else. Nothing in the atheist philosophy condones rape. But the Bible certainly does.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 12:28amHey–only if God said you to do it!
That makes sense, right?
DCT–cracks me up every time :’D
Report Post »123456beatriz
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:01pmTo me this horrible “girl” Ahlquist (Alchemist) can go to Hell, so….
Report Post »DeavonReye
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:09pmDid you get your ticket for “Restorying Love”?
Report Post »afishfarted
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:10pmIf you believe as I do, athiests DO.
I’m guessing that when she becomes an adult, she’ll realize her current views are the product of indictrination. But in the mean time, IF this note is legit and something does happen that might result in a pregnancy,—well, let’s just say that it will snowball.
Report Post »And for all the anti-Christians out there, this note could very well be sent by another athiest intended to further demonize Christianinty. Anominity gives the coward the cover to do such thing
justangry
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:12pmAh man, you beat me to it. Lots of love on the Blaze… Now let’s turn the middle east into a glass parking lot, shall we? In Jesus’ name I pray.
Report Post »DeavonReye
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:16pmwoops. . . . RESTORING.
Report Post »DeavonReye
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:19pmBTW, fish, . . . how can a person be “indoctrinated” into ONLY believing in that which has evidentiary support??? O_o
I’d definitely take that type of “indoctrination” over the religions indoctrination of “believing something with no evidence to support it.
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:47pmReally Deavonrye? Do you believe you evolved from an ape? Your evidence…….. Atheism requires more faith than christianity ever could. Everything in the universe has intelligence and exists in a perfect balance to sustain life on one planet down to the molecular level. And contrary to everything we know about science, you people believe that started by chance from nothing. Sorry, that is an amount of faith I’m not capable of.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:43pmSo, because she deserves to go to Hell (eternal punishment) then she certainly deserves to be raped, right?
Report Post »DeavonReye
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 2:29pmJust keep telling yourself that, Squid. What science doesn’t have evidence for, it doesn’t not promote. “Faith” is useless and not an avenue to truth. The problem with your statement is that science DOES have evidence for why it has the theories it does. It is NOT like religion, which is bound to ONLY “faith in that which cannot be tested/proven”. So, if it makes you feel better, go ahead and kid yourself that “atheism takes more faith”. Just don’t let that pesky evidence get in the way! ;-)
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 2:57pmDeavonReye – Science has proven not to be exact. Many scientist have had to change there theories based on new data. You have to have proof for something to exist, where Christians use faith that something exists. I don’t see oxygen, but I have faith and proof it is there because I am still breathing. We do not use faith alone. You act like we completely discount science. You are wrong. Besides science has not disproved a lack of a higher intelligent entity. Thus this is where we use faith. There are parts of the universe scientist can’t explain. What say you about this? For what purpose would the Bible be written other than to tell us where we came from and the rules we should follow that would give us a happy and useful life?
Report Post »DeavonReye
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 12:27pmScience hasn’t disproved Faeries either, so. . . . . O_o
If you have testable and repeatable evidence for your religion, then great. But if that doesn’t specifically point to the Hebrew bible god, then it is just opinion.
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:00pmWelcome to the “life” of an activist! This letter was uncalled for but, your ACLU handlers knew FULL well that these types of crazies are in this world and STILL they pushed you so they can continue with their personal crusade of destroying the love of God! I pray that this is only a letter by a coward and that NOTHING unwarranted happens to you.
Report Post »elosogrande
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:59amWhen they find out who is sending the threats, they should give the girl’s father their names, a Louiseville Slugger, and a Get Out of Jail Free Card that covers everything, as long as dad doesn’t kill any of them.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:56amI can’t stand that kid. I can’t stand what she did or what she stands for BUT I do not like these threats.
Before anyone goes off on a tanget about Christian hypocrisy please remember no one knows who sent the threatening letter.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:23pmI will be praying for this girls safety and that of her family. I do question the motives and wisdom of putting this letter on her twitter account attributing it to Christians as well. something very unwise and lots of assumptions. all that aside i will be praying for her.
Report Post »Jenny Lind
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:19pmI agree with both of you. I do not know one single Christian who would sign a letter like that. Not one. And those who come here to say we are hatefull, well this whole thing sounds like a set up and full of trolls. I always see names I have never seen on the Blaze when something like this shows up.
Report Post »troymac20
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:41pm@Jenny Lind
” I do not know one single Christian who would sign a letter like that.”
Really? I see plenty right here on the Blaze. Perhaps you should read some more posts.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:45pmJerry Lind, you may not know any Christians who would condone such behavior, but there are plenty in this thread who are doing so.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 5:31pmjenny I agree the hateful comments from new posters come out anytime on a religious thread. I think people get paid to do this or just have nothing better to do. I feel sorry for them carrying so much anger
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:56amhmmmm….well looking at the penmenship and limited vocabulary (as also evidenced by leftst troll postings on most blog / news sites), I have to consider the possibility of the letter being a hoax or having been wriiten by a leftist troll
Report Post »jzs
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:28pmkaydeebeau, speaking of penmanship, I should point out for your benefit that the correct spellings are: penmanship, leftist, and written.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 3:10pmThanks so much for pointing that out. It shows you in such a much better and superior light
Report Post »DaveIn84
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:56amI’d like to see a handwriting analyst take a look at this. My guess is this is another round of “Hey, look at me”.
Report Post »bharris0
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:56amSatan will tend to her as he always takes care of his own but usually not in the way they like.
Report Post »blanco5
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:53amIt’s so sad that we have come to a point in our lives that we have to actually question whether or not she did this to herself for attention. From our history of these sort of things we have found out that THAT is usually the case.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:00pmIf you had looked up anything about the abuse this girl has received, you‘d know that she’s been threatened for months, through letters, at school, and online. Hoax? For every one “fake” piece there may be, there are dozens more advocating violence and intimidation against this girl.
I did some research back when this came out. The things people are saying, with hashtags like #Teamjesus, are revolting. No Christian can do anything but look at this and say “No. Jesus would not approve.”
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:00pmI can’t stand Alquist..she’s a wretched little child entirely indoctrinated by leftism. But my dislike for her doesn’t prevent me from condemning these threats to her. These threats should be taken seriously and investigated with the full weight of the law.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:06pm@Avengerk
“These threats should be taken seriously and investigated with the full weight of the law.”
Bravo Avengerk! It only took you several articles in as many months, but you’re slowly becoming a human being able to see that threatening teenage girls is reprehensible!
Report Post »blanco5
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 2:35pmI’m very curious, “locked”, who died and left you god? And MOST importantly, who gives a crap what YOU think?
Report Post »Locked
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 2:41pm@Blanc05
“I’m very curious, “locked”, who died and left you god? And MOST importantly, who gives a crap what YOU think?”
Apparently you do, as you asked me two questions? ;-)
1. Jesus died, and through faith I learned of eternal salvation with God. I love God, and I love my country; God calls me to love others. My country tells me that people are innocent until proven guilty. Perhaps, Blanc05, one day you too will find Christ and move to the United States!
2. See above: apparently you do.
Mostly tongue-in-cheek this time, friend. It disheartens me that instead of condemning the abuse this girl gets, your first reaction is to judge her as guilty. I pray you find optimism and hope, and the will to condemn rape threats (as even Avengerk is now doing).
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 5:15pmLocked, you are one Christian I’d be more than happy to share a beer with.
Report Post »gragra
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 10:16pmYou disgusting pig. You know nothing about this girl, only that she stood up for the Constitution. I bet it was someone like YOU who wrote the letter.
Report Post »ChildofJesus
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:53amIf it does turn out to be fake then the fault will rest on their own heads but we as Christians need to follow Jesus command to be loving and gracious to those who discredit and hate us. And not retaliate with hatred back at them. What does it profit us? And FYI my eyes are open to the possibilities as well.
Report Post »stephenmarkovich
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 9:02pmYou are not learned about what the Bible nor Christ spoke.
Report Post »MrKnowItAll
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:52amThink how different this would be taken if she were not white. That’s the first thing that came to my mind with all these Racial Hatred being thrown around. It should not be my first thought. My first thought should have been….Was that sign Bothering you so much you needed to do what someone should have warned you about. Crazy People! I advise her to take all threats seriously. In our U.S. Today when you have a President not talking CALM to the People. People are fearless and care less what they do. Where are all the people backing her during their money making stance beside her during her fight to bring down something she didn’t like. No money involved. They are all gone and now I fear for not only her. But all her friends and family. God Bless Her. Protect her from these Nuts.
Report Post »Waterlylys
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:52amThe person or people who sent this are sick! I hope the cops get to the bottom of it! I also pray for her and her family’s protection. One thing bothers me though, there is nothing in the threat to indicate that the writer considers him/herself a Christian. Why did Ahlquist automatically go there?
Report Post »blanco5
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:56amThe end justifies the means.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:48pm“The end justifies the means”? So this young lady deserves to be raped?
Report Post »blanco5
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 2:39pmbruce p.—you are a moron and I will waste no more time on you.
Report Post »john koenig
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:50amTen bucks says she or another atheist activist did this. We’ve seen this kind of scam a dozen times before.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:48amI don’t consider it an actual threat as much as just a small snipit of one of Farakans speeches.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:47amI expect three types of responses from the commentators here, judging by the half-dozen or so things we’ve seen in the past.
1. She deserves it
2. She’s faking it for media attention/it’s not really a critic sending it
3. No one should threaten a teenager, and those making threats should be caught and punished appropriately.
I’ve always sided on the third. Many of the other “regulars” are usually within the first two. Let’s see how it goes this time, yes?
I hope whoever wrote this gets caught, charged, and punished. I don’t believe atheists are right about the Divine, but this girl’s case was correct without a doubt, and she does not deserve the kind of abuse she’s received for standing up for the Constitution, even if it’s from a misguided stance.
justangry
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:09pmYup, you pretty much summed it up. You even called it and they still post exactly how you said they would. I’d think the appropriate Christian response would be, “I pray for her safety and that one day she can find god.” But, apparently, I’m not qualified to speak of such things being a wretched non-believer and all.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:12pmYou mean “selectively standing up for the constitution” don’t you LOCKED? She takes Christmas and Easter holidays off from school and she seems to have no issue with a state body recognizing those holidays is this not the case LOCKED? Please…don’t belabour this board with your usual deflection..”that’s what you always say AVENGER”. If she’s a “champion” of the constitution as you proclaim then it shouldn’t end at a school prayer on a banner for her should it? It should be the eradication of all religious holidays from the school calendar shouldn’t it? Is this not correct and “constitutional”? The answer you’re collecting your spittle over is “yes- that is correct Avenger” However… because militant atheists like this wretched little girl would have a public relations nightmare on their hands if they began targeting Christian holidays on local, state and federal calendars..they choose to selectively assault Christianity (which is their real agenda, not defending any constitution) by hiding behind the constitution” and dimwits like you applaud them rather than call their bluff. And of course with Alquist as with all militant atheists..I’ve yet to hear her voice her “offense” at being told she cannot attend classes during Easter and Christmas breaks because the school will closed in recognition of them. Where’s her outrage over that LOCKED?
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:17pmJUSTANGRY…where do you presume to have the authority to tell the believer how they should respond? You‘re a godless liberal and if we were to adhere to your kind’s standards, Alquist should be in a Gulag by now.
Report Post »DisgustedinCT
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:19pmGuess you haven’t read the constitution here it is:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
It clearly states there will be no state religion, but we as a people have the free exercise of religion.
It is time to start suing back these atheist organizations and put them out of business.
Report Post »InversionTheory
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:30pmI’m an even more extreme version of #3. Not only is it wrong to threaten a teenager, it’s wrong to threaten anyone. Violence or the threat of violence can cause you to act against your own rational self-interest. And how often in history has any group of people suffered as a result to being excessively willing to sit down and solve their problems through rationality? I can’t think of any off-hand, but I’m no expert on the subject.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:37pmI didn’t presume anything. I said “I’d think the appropriate response…” You assume too much. I don’t like what the courts are doing to the schools in this regard either. Even though I am a wretched non-believer. BTW, I went to Saturday Mass and a small-town protestant Church every weekend during my childhood. I’m not totally ignorant of Christian dogma and the scripture.
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:53pm@JUSTANGRY
“I went to Saturday Mass and a small-town protestant Church every weekend during my childhood.”
Well, you are ignorant of what kind of church you went to. Protestant churches don’t have mass on Saturday. Catholics churches do.
Made up story = EPIC FAIL
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:59pmOr are you saying you went to both catholic mass on Saturday and then church on Sunday? Which is almost the equivalent of saying I went to Temple on Friday night and then to the Mosque on Saturday.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:00pm@Squid
“Protestant churches don’t have mass on Saturday.”
Well, they still have church services on Saturdays. I’ve gone to several Baptist services on Saturdays here in Florida. I believe it is just called a “service” not a “mass,” but they definitely exist.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:05pm@Avengerk
“She takes Christmas and Easter holidays off from school and she seems to have no issue with a state body recognizing those holidays is this not the case.”
It’s kinda funny how you follow this up with “don‘t say that’s what you always say!!!”… because this is what you always say. And I always say the same thing: It’s not her right to go to school when it is closed and demand to be let in; that‘s trespassing and she’ll be arrested. Perhaps when she‘s older she’ll take it to the federal government (you know, where they actually decide federal holidays), not the local school (which can do nothing).
However, I will applaud you; in previous articles you’ve always been the first category, claiming the girl brought this abuse on herself. Now, in separate responses, you’ve somewhat dropped into the third. It’s a stepping stone, but at least it’s in the right direction. Perhaps rape is too unpalatable even for you? It’s good to find you do have a moral compass :-)
Report Post »justangry
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:14pmNope. My paternal side of the family IS Catholic! (some converted to Lutheran) I went to Saturday Mass with my paternal grandmother. My maternal side is Methodist, but my town was so small, they had a generic protestant church, which I attended on Sundays. See I went to both Catholic and Protestant services because that’s the compromise my parents come up with. The epic fail is yours, my friend.
Report Post »troymac20
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 3:03pmWhere I live its called spring break and winter break. Especially since easter is on a sunday (when there is no school) and both extend longer than 1 day.
Report Post »troymac20
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:45amTime for everyone to chime in and say she sent the letter to herself.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:41amLooks like an attention-getting scam. She probably sent it to herself.
Report Post »Weiners Wiener
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:46amOne other person gets it. I can‘t believe all the comments from people who don’t even consider that. How many times do we see people of faith attacking atheists through the media? Rarely ever. No, how many times do we see atheists going after those of faith? Constantly. They’re on a mission to ban every mention of God anywhere in our culture. I’d like for police to examine that letter, maybe ask little Missy if she’d be willing to take a lie detector test. I bet it’s fake.
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:47amWouldn’t surprise me, and wouldn’t be a first, I mean look…. The attention’s been off her for a while. I wouldn’t put it past her to have sent it herself!
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:04pmor, maybe another teenager looking for the fame? This seems to be the actions of a teenager that does not have the capacity to reason or understand that the anger on this issue is NOT about the girl but the constant DEMAND of athiests to mold the world around them!
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:12pmI am sure her lack of faith will protect her.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:52pm“Maybe her faith will protect her.” So, Mike_Trivisonno thinks the threats are fake, while out the other side of his mouth hoping she is raped.
Very Christian of you.
Report Post »VanceUppercut
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 6:34pm@Bruce P.
“So, Mike_Trivisonno thinks the threats are fake, while out the other side of his mouth hoping she is raped.”
Off topic, but this is how I feel about white supremacists who deny the Holocaust happened. In one breath they’ll say that the Holocaust is a hoax, and in the next they’ll take glee in the fact that so many Jews were killed.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:41amThis child and her family will be in my prayers. No child should EVER be treated like that I don’t care what she has done who ever wrote this letter needs to go to jail. What kind of disgusting human being does this?
Report Post »In the O.C.
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:56pmAnswer: It is Somebody who doesn’t know God, who doesn’t know Jesus and follows Him, and who is NOT a person who lives a religion that teaches love (as does Christianity and Judaism, for examples), who is a twisted person, and a person with no moral compass or visable conscience – THAT kind of person.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:41amGreat, more stupidity on show. I disagree with her mindset, but cannot condone such a threat in any way. Hope the idiot(s) will be exposed.
Report Post »Weiners Wiener
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:41amI don’t buy it. This girl wanted media attention from the beginning when she first launched her crusade to remove the banner. I wouldn‘t be the least bit surprised to find that some of these letters she’s receiving are fabrications designed to bring her attantion and sympathy, and to discredit people of faith.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:51am“I wouldn‘t be the least bit surprised to find that SOME of these letters she’s receiving are fabrications designed to bring her attantion and sympathy” (emphasis added)
… meaning that others are truly from “Christians” thinking they’re doing “the right thing” by threatening her?
I love Christ with all my heart, and when I see so-called Christians doing this (or worse, brushing it off as people like you have), my heart weeps. Someone can be so blinded by self-righteousness that they refuse to admit that this kind of abuse is abhorrent in the eyes of God… or even acknowledge that it exists and is perpetrated by these hypocrites. It’s like people refusing to believe in God Himself… or even acknowledging that he exists.
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 3:10pmFirst of all if you are assuming a Christian wrote this don’t. It is no different than saying she wrote it herself. We don’t know. However, being a teenage girl once, I could see her writing the letter for attention. I pray that is not the case. As a Christian, I find it hard to think a true Christian would do this, but there are some Christians that take their faith way to seriously. I can’t discount either.
If a self-proclaimed Christian wrote this, then I say they aren’t Christian and shame on them.
Report Post »If she wrote this or had a friend write this, then I say as a Christian shame on her or her friend.
ChildofJesus
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:38amHer being an atheist aside the best and friendliest advice I can say is ; be careful. Trust only those extremely close to you and be guarded when you go out. God loves you good luck.
Report Post »Obama Snake Oil Co
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:51amIf you are going for that kind of attention and attacking the values that some hold passionately, all you can expect is some loose cannon to show up. Its just a matter of time. All I can say, you wanted the limelight, wellcome to it. We have all witnessed what happened to Zimmerman in Fla recently and all the death threats he had. I can only guess that Wesborough B Church knows who you are now. You reap what you sew.
Report Post »YesToFreedom
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:37amTwo wrongs don’t make a right.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:43amThey make a lefty.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:46amNo but it does send a message. I personally think she should be ostrasized from the school by creating a united front that condemns her actions as intolerent and unacceptable. She should be treated as scurge. Basicly force her to leave through social networks and isolation.Make everyday she is in the school seem like an eternity. …..I don’t think she should be threaten with rape however.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:54am@Johnjamison
May you some day find the peace of God in your heart. On that day you’ll realize that advocating mental abuse and bullying to force out a girl who defended the US Constitution was wrong. Christians will be waiting for you, as they will be waiting for this girl to find the light of God.
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Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:48pmLocked ,
Report Post »I have found Jesus and I found that he would defend his fathers works. As he did to the jewish hanging money is his fathers house.
I also believe that intolerence should met with the same intolerence. And as far as the Constitution goes it says congress shall make no law repsecting the establish of religion OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THERE OF. The parchment hanging in the school was no law respecting religion but this POS did her part in prohibiting the free exercise there of. And you whoi support her are doing the same.
I would turn the screws till she cried everyday she had to go to that school and every night when she went home. I WOULD SHOW WHAT THE INTOLERENCE OF ATHEISM BREEDS
Locked
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 1:14pm@Johnjamison
I am happy to hear you’ve found God, although I don’t believe your attitude reflects it. Meet intolerance with intolerance? How about violence with violence? Hate with hate? No. Jesus calls us to be better, to raise above. To turn the other cheek.
“ it says congress shall make no law repsecting the establish of religion”
False. It says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. Putting a school-sponsored prayer in a public school violates the establishment clause (as can be shown in several court cases). Before you set up some other strawmen:
- The 14th amendment gives the Establishment Clause protections to states and local government entities as well as the federal government. None of this “It says Congress!” junk, please.
- Please see the relevant court cases Engel v. Vitale (1962), Abington School District v. Schempp (1963), and Lemon v. Kurtzman (1971).
- If you want to argue the Supreme Court‘s opinion isn’t valid, please see judicial review in Marbury v Madison (1803), and be advised you’ll be arguing against both reality, and how our country has operated judicially for the past 200+ years.
“I would turn the screws till she cried everyday she had to go to that school and every night when she went home.”
Turn the other cheek, brother. May Christ show you the way. An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 4:36pmLocked,
Report Post »The 14th amendment has nothing absolutely nothing to do with parchment hanging in a high school.
More to the point you attempting to apply the establish clause on a state level would infact strengthen my case. The tenth amendment state power not given to congress and not deny by the constitution revert to the state and the people.
WHAT PART OF PROHIBIT THE FREE FREE EXERCISE THER OF DON’T YOU GET
CONGRESS IS DENIED THE RIGHT TO PROHIBIT RELIGION THUS THE STATES ARE ALSO DENIED THE RIGHT TO PROHIBIT RELIGION.
Besicly put Religious freedom is an absolute EVEN IN A SCHOOL.
And that little witch would have to leave the state if that was my school. I would turn the screws non-stop she deserve to reap the intolerence she sowed.
Locked
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 4:49pm@Johnjamison
I’ll try to respond to each of your points.
“The 14th amendment has nothing absolutely nothing to do with parchment hanging in a high school.”
No, but it does when we reference that the parchment is a “school prayer.” The 14th amendment, as said, gives the protections of the establishment clause to state and local governments as well. Hence, the 14th amendment certainly does apply… if you were going to use a strawman like “It says Congress!” Which you didn’t, so my bad. Or my good, if it stopped you :-)
“More to the point you attempting to apply the establish clause on a state level would infact strengthen my case. The tenth amendment state power not given to congress and not deny by the constitution revert to the state and the people.”
Ah, you are ignoring the 14th amendment. See, the 14th amendment says that states need to follow the federal constitution protections as well. So the 10th no longer applies in the case of establishment.
“WHAT PART OF PROHIBIT THE FREE FREE EXERCISE THER OF DON’T YOU GET”
Tongue-in-cheek? The double free part. Is free free even freer than free?
But seriously, taking down an endorsement of religion on public property is not prohibiting free exercise. Forcing students to adhere to a school prayer does prohibit free exercise of religion.
(Cont later)
Report Post »Locked
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 4:54pm(Cont from before)
“Besicly put Religious freedom is an absolute EVEN IN A SCHOOL.”
Indeed! The problem you’re having is that religious freedom is being impinged by having a public school forcing one particular religious view on their students through a school prayer. Thus, by removing the banner and not endorsing a religion, neutrality is once more attained. See? Now everyone has an equal praying field (heh, pun!).
Note that students can still pray, or bring their holy books to school. But the school itself cannot endorse specific religious views, as this banner did. The courts agreed.
“And that little witch would have to leave the state if that was my school. I would turn the screws non-stop she deserve to reap the intolerence she sowed.”
Well, then you’d likely be fired. Let’s list the issues with that:
- You can‘t carry out a personal vendetta against a teenager if you’re a principal; especially if you yourself were in the wrong (proven legally by the courts in this case)
- You cannot physically or mentally intimidate a child to the point that she breaks. Heck, it’s not only illegal, it’s immoral. Again, I’m surprised you claim to be a Christian in one breath and demand torturing a teenager in the next.
- The “intolerance” she sowed can also be called “upholding the Constitution.” I think she’s a busybody, but her case was justified and the school was acting unconstitutionally.
You have her to thank for religious freedom at least!
Report Post »firstHat
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 8:58amThank you. That was the best comment yet. I doubt most of the hate we see spewed here is from Christians, but rather from opportunists on both side using this platform to have their moment at the expense of Christianity.
I pray that the depraved person who wrote that note (probably some classmate at school. Have you seen what goes on in our schools these days?) is found and shut down. I pray that the girl herself someday finds God in this wonderful creation of his and in his people. I pray that the vindictiveness in these comments is revealed as the kabuki theater that most of it is.
Now… let’s move on please? The country is spending itself into oblivion and we are losing real freedoms. Focus on the government, not on its pawns (on either side).
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 9:32amLOCKED,
Report Post »I’LL type slower so you can understand,
What part of OR PROHIBIT THE FREE EXERCISE THERE OF
don’t you understand. If the people in the community have a problem with the parchment in the school they have a right to vote on it’s removal at some sort of PTA assembly. It is beyond the CONSTITUTIONAL POWERS OF ANY COURT TO REMOVE IT OR FORCE THE SCHOOL TO REMOVE IT.
Even more to point as far as schools are concerned they aren‘t technically part of any government state or federal the fact that they get tax dollars in irrelivent as there’s no constitutional amendment given the power to the fedearl government to control schools or dictate school policy. No the DOE is just another unconstitutional power grab made in the 70‘s that’s full effect has just started being felt in the last decade.
Soon that fact will be laid out and the DOE will be just another exstinct spiecies.
Locked
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 4:49pm@Johnjamison
“What part of OR PROHIBIT THE FREE EXERCISE THERE OF
don’t you understand.”
None. It simply doesn’t apply in this case. No free exercise of religion is being prohibited; an establishment is (which, you’ll notice, is the first half of the sentence that keep refusing to quote).
” If the people in the community have a problem with the parchment in the school they have a right to vote on it’s removal at some sort of PTA assembly. It is beyond the CONSTITUTIONAL POWERS OF ANY COURT TO REMOVE IT OR FORCE THE SCHOOL TO REMOVE IT.”
False, and false. Local votes do not override federal protections, and the Supreme Court has had judicial review for the past 200+ years.
Even more to point as far as schools are concerned they aren‘t technically part of any government state or federal the fact that they get tax dollars in irrelivent”
False again. Take government money – abide by government rules. Public schools are considered part of the government so far as Constitutional protections are concerned.
“as there’s no constitutional amendment given the power to the fedearl government to control schools or dictate school policy.”
See protections (above) and the 14th amendment.
“Random doomsaying on the DoE”
Doesn’t change the fact that the legal system of the US is clear on this point right now. It may be overturned in the future but for now, it’s the law of the land.
Report Post »RougeFastFingers
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:35amMan, there are some really stupid people in this world.
Threatening a child with rape because of her beliefs…insane.
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:44amI’m wondering about that myself. Why stir up the controversy again? Unless, of course, the atheists are actually trying to manipulate this to make the Christians look bad.
This is suspicious, very suspicious.
Report Post »marine249
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 12:13pmTAQUOSHI
I just turned on comp, and read above .
Report Post »I think its the left doing what they do good.
tell a big lie atell it over,over,over and overr
VanceUppercut
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 6:43pm@marine249
“tell a big lie atell it over,over,over and over”
Such as: The Muslim community center in New York is a “victory mosque”, or Hilary Rosen “attacked” Ann Romney for being a stay-at-home mom, or Obama wasn’t born in the U.S., or that the census will be used to create internment camps, or healthcare reform will create death panels, or Obama is a Muslim…need I go on?
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