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Did This Teen Murder His Parents Over Their Opposition to His Alleged Occupy Oakland Involvement?

The Occupy movement has had both a resurgence in terms of protest activity and media coverage. Following arrests this week in Oakland and New York, a disturbing story is coming out of California, where prosecutors claim Moses Kamin, a 15-year-old boy, murdered his foster parents and subsequently stuffed their bodies into a car.

Now it may seem odd that this allegedly gruesome act would be connected to the Occupy movement — and it‘s entirely possible that it’s not — but let’s take a look at what we know so far. The boy, who will be tried as an adult, was apparently fighting with his foster parents over the time he was spending at the Occupy Oakland camp. After all, what parent wants his or her young and impresionable teenager hanging out around those shenanigans?

“Coworkers said the couple had been arguing with their foster son. Some of the fights were over him spending too much time in the Occupy Oakland encampment,” reports KTVU.com. “A family friend told KTVU that those arguments were not what led to the killings but would not say what did.”

The International Business Times has more:

Moses Kamin was arraigned in Alameda County Superior Court for allegedly murdering Robert Kamin, 55, and Susan Poff, 50. Kamin faces two counts of murder and, if convicted, a life sentence without the possibility of parole.

Police detained the youth on Friday after the bodies of his foster parents were discovered in a red PT Cruiser parked outside the family house, according to the Oakland Tribune. Scorch marks were found on the car because Kamin had attempted to set the gas tanks on fire. After he confessing the details of the crime, police said, they formally arrested him on Saturday morning.

Kamin was adopted by Kamin, a clinical psychologist in the San Francisco jail system, and Poff, a physician with the San Francisco Department of Public Health’s Housing and Urban Health Clinic, in 2002.

In November, police claim that Kamin, who has a black belt in karate, ran away to protest with the Oakland Occupiers. It is suspected that the young boy may have even burglarized his own home and stolen the family car. Clearly, he was a troubled youth who was engaging, according to reports, in various acts of defiance.

Kamin was also recently suspended from school on a number of occasions. Tensions surrounding these incidents, sources say, may have created a portion of the motive. While there’s no telling how much time the boy spent at Occupy Oakland and how much influence the movement had on his thinking, the connection — and his parents opposition to his alleged involvement — is noteworthy.

Moses Kamin to Be Charged as an Adult After Allegedly Killing Parents | Occupy Oakland

Susan Poff (left) and Robert Kamin (right) (Image Credit: Daily Mail/ABC)

Authorities suspect that he first strangled his mother following an argument. Then, after waiting for his father to come home, he attacked and murdered him as well. When his father didn’t show up to work the next day, concerned co-workers alerted police and the bodies were inevitably discovered after they questioned the teen.

As noted, Kamin’s father was a psychologist in the San Francisco jail system. Considering this background, he surely would have had the skills to assist in son in dealing with whatever traumatic issues he was internally facing. Sadly, the story didn’t end that way.

“Bob’s strength was dealing with people in jail, who are in terrible situations and very demanding,” said Robert’s brother Bruce Kamin. “It‘s too bad that his own son couldn’t benefit from that.”

While he initially denied the crime, Kamin has since admitted to strangling his adoptive mother and father. He faces two counts of murder and could receive a life sentence with no chance of parole.

(H/T: International Business Times)

Comments (77)

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  • JRook
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 1:33pm

    Did This Teen Murder His Parents Over Their Opposition to His Alleged Occupy Oakland Involvement Hmmm didn‘t GB take the moral high ground today regarding Newt’s Robo calls. And indicated his organization never misrepresents.

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  • brother_ed
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 1:03pm

    It‘s Bush’s fault…

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    • ACLUHater
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 2:33pm

      Young liberal can be dangerous.

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 11:20pm

      To ACLUHater:
      It’s not that “Young liberal can be dangerous”.
      Young liberals ARE dangerous because the role of brain in them is being performed by boiling sperm instead: pure young uncontrollable emotions, zero intellectual brakes, absence of maturity multiplied by young radicalism à la “I need everything at once and I need all that right now.”
      Unfortunately, it’s a common psychological portrait of the youth that was/is not bred properly by either too much working or, quite the contrary, non-working parents and screwed and brainwashed by our monstrously twisted educational system.

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  • ewoodard
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 12:50pm

    It looks to me like the parents adopted a criminal, applied all of their pc liberal touchy feeley it takes a viillage child raising theories, and had an unfortunate, yet quite predictable result. Shrinks working for the san fran justice system? You KNOW they are lefties! You know they did not have a gun in the house, just in case the black belt criminal snapped, as they are against all kinds of violence. I’m surprised that the bodies were not found in a Prius or a Chevy Volt. But at least it was a government motors car. THis guy went to the Occupy protests, came back filled with marxist rage, and when his parents objected, he suddenly realized that they were running dog bourgois kulak counterrevolutionaries, which gave him the Occupy approved moral justification to kill them and take their stuff. Not the first time this has happened, and won’t be the last. But letting him ride the lightning I’ll bet would cut down on it some…

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    • RagingJudge
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 3:02pm

      I appalled that you assume this “belt criminal” is a black man! You sir are truly a racist!

      Yeah right. Just kidding

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    • k1607
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 11:25am

      yea…how did the psychological theories of how to raise a child work out? This is such a sad and terrible story. And it is so true as to what extreme liberals and liberals in general really are. They say they want peace but act like they want war.

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    • CatB
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 11:28am

      @EWOODARD…

      I think you are spot on!

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    • obatomy
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 11:44am

      Hell yeah, you got it brother. Summed it up beautifully.

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  • Elena2010
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 12:28pm

    “Bob’s strength was dealing with people in jail, who are in terrible situations and very demanding,” said Robert’s brother Bruce Kamin. “It‘s too bad that his own son couldn’t benefit from that.”

    Sorry, but it’s never that easy. The boy had to want help to make use of it.

    Jesus encountered a man paralyzed at the pool of Bethesda and asked him: Do you want to get well?

    The man gave excuses before finally taking the gift of healing.

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  • Tsam
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 12:02pm

    Does Bill Ayers support the Occupy movement? Yes.

    Did Bill Ayers advocate this: “Kill all the rich people. … Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents.”

    Yes.

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    • MarsBarsTru7
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 12:59pm

      “Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that‘s where it’s really at,” – Bill Ayers (1969?); NY Times.

      You know, with all the information floating around about the guy, I hadn’t run across that before. Thanks for the heads up. I looked it up because it sounded too crazy to be true. Sure enough, it was true. Bill Ayers was confronted by a NY Times writer about it and Ayers said he didn’t remember saying it, but acknowledged he might have and that it was probably a joke about getting back at the rich.

      How in the world did a man with a middle name of Hussein get elected to the Presidency of the United States less than 10 years after 9/11? How in the world did a man who repeatedly made the case that the Constitution needed to be changed or reinterpreted on a fundamental level get to be President of the U.S.? How in the world did a man who sat in church with Rev. Wright as his preacher get to be President of the U.S.? How in the world did a man who was an open Marxist in college get to be President of the U.S.? How in the world did a man who studied under and became lifelong friends with Rashid Khalidi become President of the U.S.? How in the world did a man who was a professional associate of and friends with Bill Ayers get elected to the Presidency of the U.S.?

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  • thegreatcarnac
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 11:27am

    The left will say that this guy is a hero because he even killed his parents in the glorious cause of socialism. The whole liberal/socialist agenda is awashed in blood……the blood of innocents and saints.

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    • LeadMetalGuitarist
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 11:55am

      So unfortunately true

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    • YouAreMistakenSir
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 11:14am

      Indeed. Why just the other day i stumbled across a left wing baby eating party. They were trying different recipes and arguing over which wine went best with the host famous deep fried baby and I gotta tell you i got right out there. The left wing commies were looking at me awful hungrily. Also they were worshiping Quetzacoatl the god of the sun and sacrificing virgins to an idol of Barack Obama.

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  • loveliberty83
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 10:45am

    I wish God would grant America a miracle & let a God loving American be President

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    • HKS
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 10:55am

      People must first recognize the enemy of America, Democrats, sums it up. Vote out anything that even smells like one come election day.

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    • abbygirl1994
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 11:03am

      That will come, but not until God sweeps them from the earth, it will get worse than it is now.. but beyond that, it will be a wonderful place to live. Choose ye this day whom ye will serve. God or mammon. This girl apparently served mammon and killed her parents! God help us!

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  • barber2
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 10:16am

    Very sad. Think this boy is just the type who would be attracted to the Occupy Movement : angry, lost, hates rules, and may have a drug problem. That is exactly the type which the Occupy Movement appeals to. And why this so-called movement is so dangerous ( and why the Democrats unions are silently funding but keeping at arms’ reach )

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    • db321
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 10:30am

      More blood on the heads of the Satanic leadership of Obama, Soros and Van Jones. It is only going to get worst.

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  • Balthazor
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 10:09am

    Maybe I’m jumping the gun or going too far, but I seem to think that the US military takes an oath to defend the country from all enemies, foreign and domestic, and I can’t see how mobs of idiots trying to shut down ports and shut down businesses and take over government buildings while burning American flags and chanting anti-American rhetoric doesn’t qualify as a domestic enemy.

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    • shogun459
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 10:23am

      Balthazor,

      And now we see another reason for Obama to Depopulate the Army.
      It takes an Army to hold any ground.

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    • PPMStudios
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 11:07am

      Well active duty military are not allowed to act within the US unless we’re actually attacked by a foreign power. That’s why Governors use the Guard to bolster the police.

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    • PPMStudios
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 11:09am

      Oh, it’s “defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” Not the country.

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  • slwrig2
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 9:45am

    This would never happen with the TEA PARTY, Just goes to show you the Occupy Douche bags are a arm of the leftist commies and marxist that are trying to destroy the country, you know the ones that are supported by the criminal regime in the white house and the likes of the elite leftist in the House and Senate along with their croonies in the lame stream media.

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 9:21am

    he wont be voting Democrat for a while, although just like all Democrats , he will now be living off the taxpayers………

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 10:05am

      If Obama gets reelected and we lose the House, they might get the right to vote from jail. Seriously.

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  • kegbuna
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 9:01am

    I am glad to see some blaze members agree; the Occupy connection is way too weak for a headline. Though i still see some even making it all the way to Obama. These kinds of articles show an attempt to create a theme where there is none.

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    • Epic Fail
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 9:27am

      The connection is.. This is the kind of people that you will find at the OWS movement. The crime stats for this vile group of parasites is easy to find. This is just another example.

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    • Dstarr55
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 10:04am

      While I agree this young man had many issues which caused him to commit such a heinous act to say there is no connection to the Occupy movement is rather naïve – I would argue it was a mitigating factor because it was part of the escalating tension within that household – of him ‘running’ away to be part of the Occupy movement, of him spending too much time at Occupy and ignoring his school work. The Occupy movement probably drew him not because of ideology (although he certainly had the same entitlement attitude) but because of the violence the Oakland Occupy movement has erupted into. I will submit you will see more people like this troubled young man at these Occupy protests and just like this young man, who I will also submit could not articulate why he was there, the reason is not some higher cause but rather the lure of the chaos and anti-establishment these movements are becoming. He certainly had many other issues but being drawn to the Occupy movement did play a role in his decision to kill his parents – maybe not the major role but it was part of the chasm that was dividing this family and the lawlessness being taught, so to speak, at the Oakland Occupy movement certainly did not help the situation. He felt entitled and while he did not get that attitude from the Occupy movement, being there reinforced it.

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    • shogun459
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 10:25am

      Connection,
      Obama, Pelosi and Ried all endorsed this movment and it’s far to late to retract it.

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    • Arruba
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 1:02pm

      If not reported in the mainstream media, it never happened. Provda anyone? ZOMBIE ALERT!

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  • Nemo13
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:43am

    I don’t see the picture of this teenager, hmm….

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  • momrules
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:42am

    It sounds like this was a troubled kid to begin with. His involvement with Occupy Oakland could not have helped and more probably increased his hatred of parental authority or authority of any kind.

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  • AnnieMouse
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:40am

    Why are the boy’s parents referred to as his foster parents in the first paragraph when according to the article, they adopted him?

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  • Susie
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:39am

    BLAZE you know I love you, but I think you’re making a mountain out of a mole-hill, here. The connection to Occupy seems rather too flimsy to be making it a headline.
    Worth mentioning, yes, but not building a story around.
    I‘m just say’n.

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    • loveliberty83
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 10:44am

      you obviously never had a teen-it gave him a place to go,he did not have to deal with school & parents kids used to hide in friends homes who would find out The hate of our country & the rights of others atr the main goal of these worthless people

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    • JRook
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 1:59pm

      Susie …. you are a voice of reason and truth in a field of ideological zealots. You can identify such by how they filter and interpret information in order to be consistent with and reinforce their beliefs. Rational thought is never a consideration.

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    • jujubeebee
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 4:04pm

      Susie, you are naive! Have you ever had a teenage boy? The Occupy movement was a huge influence on his life…..regardless of what brought him to it. Teenagers….even the best ones go through a rough time and even if you think you are the best parent in the world they can push those limits. You are simply naive if you think the Occupy Movement and the time spent there did not have an influence on this kid’s actions! This is a story……every bit as much or more than teachers in schools teaching little kids to sing…… mmm, mmm, Barrack Obama!

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:36am

    I think it’s a stretch to blame occupy for this but, it does certainly illustrate the kind of disturbed individual the movement attracts.

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  • su96us
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:36am

    “A family friend told KTVU that those arguments were not what led to the killings but would not say what did.” isn’t that keeping information?

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  • LANE131
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:27am

    He will be wrote up in the future text books, and songs will be written about him, as a HERO of the left.
    That’s how wrong the left is.

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 9:02am

      The “cause” always want martyrs. Look at what the Nazi’s did with Horst Wessel. It wouldn‘t surprise me to hear Kamin’s name from the OWSers. With the racheting up of violence, this “cause” needs the sacrificial victims to whip the mob. History does repeat itself. Look what my generation did in the late 60‘s and early 70’s.

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  • Mr.Fitnah
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:25am

    No good deed goes unpunished.
    Adopt a cat .
    If your children don’t cower in fear when you walk in the door, your not raising the right.

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    • Mainer forever
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 11:17am

      Mr. Fitnah YOU need to see a psychiatrist!!! And sooner better than later.

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  • mbriz
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:24am

    A guy is caught with guns on his way to kill people at the Tides Foundation because of what beck said about them. There are screws loose in every group.

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    • SoaringEagl3
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 9:00am

      Check yourself on that one. That guy never mentioned Glenn Beck, it was blogs like Salon.com and others that made that wonderful connection for us.

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    • barber2
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 10:18am

      Jason Levin tactics ? ( both ends of the political spectrum contain crazies…)

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    • Dr. Joel Fleischman
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 11:54pm

      MBRIZ- another Encinom spawn.

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  • NC
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:10am

    No0t quite sure what to say or how to begin this dialog, especially after this past weekend researching the United Methodist Church’s ministers, elders, and other members endorsing the OWS and Oakland in particular. Their endorsement has nothing to do with socialism or marxism, but with “preaching non-violence”…wink, wink.

    I could go on and may go on later in the thread, but the UMC (and Jim Wallis’ crowd) is very active in OWS. Maybe they should send in some more pacifistic “troops” to preach non-violence to the crowd.

    NC

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    • carbonyes
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:35am

      The Jim Wallace freaks of life are similar to the many freaks of life who have managed to cajole, cheat, lie, steal and make a pact with the devil to ascend to their positions of power, where they can practice their destructive policies and agenda on our nation and the American people. This would include the Nancy Pelosi’s, Harry Reid’s, Debbie Wassermann Schultz’s, Dick Durbin’s, the Chuck Schumars of life, as well as many many more, both in this current generation and extending at least as far back as woodrow Wilson with his cadre of Warburgs and other elitist progressives with which he surrounded himself. Just to enlighten, those who surrounded Wilson, his political appoinntees, were actually picked by others to fill those positions, which is the same thing that is being done today – the shadow government. it will beyond a shadow of a doubt take a well organized grass roots movement to grapple with all their strength and might, inspired by and directed by the Spirit of God to unseat these forces of darkness, and, yes there are profoundly an unfortunately healthy lot of the same tripe in the Republican Party.

      Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin and other founders were right. We need a wholesale reemoval of those currently in power. They are almost to a man and women sold out, and it is not to God and Christ.

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    • carbonyes
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:47am

      The orchestrators of the OWS crowds knew quite well what they were initiating, and the specific plans include amping things up significantly beyond what went on in Oakland. it is nothing to them that this kid whacked both of his parents. There will not be a tear shed among them, nor a doubt the incident, a double murder, be mentioned. David Rockefeller, like many other elitists, are like the farmer who cares for his wife and kids, if that is even possible, for his type know not love, and no more – very selfish, self centered megalomaniacs. Special place in Hell prepared for his kind and those who cater to and kiss their hind ends to exact favors from them. Their days are numbered. Trust me, you do not want to be in their shoes for even a fleeting moment.

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  • Moozmom
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:07am

    George Soros said the occupiers were going to become violent. Parents: consider your children armed and dangerous with communist, marxists, socialist, atheist, and anti-social disorders taught them by their public educators and the Soros’s of the world. Your children have been taught to despise you and your morals. Law enforcement: Isn’t it time to remove the communists, marxists, socialists, and anti-socials from this society? Like ship them off shore where they can practice with the like minded.

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    • HKS
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:17am

      That whole mess is a product of our government school system, which is nothing more than a refuge for social misfits and teachers of deviant sexual and social behaviors.

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    • carbonyes
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 9:19am

      Moozmom and Hks, you are both right on the money. Don’t have time to play around any more. Seek the face of God and His direction. Time to move out in a well planned, orchestrated manner. You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. It’s in the Bible. Talk about power, we who are sold out to God and Christ have power beyond their wildest imaginations, but it is to be structured, funneled and applied through God’s Word under His direction, and to Him be all the praise and glory and honor.

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  • doomytram
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:06am

    Disgusting. Occupy is a ridiculous out of control cult. What Oblamer and Axelrod created to offset the the taxed enough party is now just a band of murderous, misguided, kool aid drinking rappist drones.

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    • Darla_K
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 9:19am

      I think Obama has encouraged these protests and it is their goal to have mass kaos (Chicago protest coming in the spring) to be able to use for Obama’s control for martial law. I am hoping for a big backfire and hope the police and national guard are on alert. Just speculating…..

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  • lukerw
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:06am

    Alike… Muslim population control… this is just Liberal population control… where they are killing each other!

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