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Televangelist Joel Osteen Tells Piers Morgan He’d Attend a Gay Wedding

On Tuesday night, televangelist Joel Osteen appeared alongside his wife, Victoria, on CNN’s “Piers Morgan Tonight,” where he discussed the highly-contentious issue of gay marriage.

During the show, Morgan showed a clip from Osteen’s January appearance on the show. In the clip, the pastor is seen stating that he believes, based on the Bible, that homosexuality is a sin. Below, watch the clip from January:

After showing Osteen his past words on the matter, Morgan asked, ”Has your position changed at all since then?” Here was the mega pastor’s response:

“You know, Piers, it really never changes because mine’s based out of the scripture. That’s what I believe that the scripture says — that homosexuality is a sin. I believed it before and I still believe it now….

I’m not mad at anybody, I don’t dislike anybody. Respecting my faith and believing in what the scripture says, that’s the best way I can interpret it.”

Watch these statements, below:

Osteen reiterated numerous times that he is “not…against anybody.” In analyzing the dialogue, Greg Hengler, over at TownHall.com, wrote:

Kudos to Joel for saying homosexuality is a sin, but, like a pilot or a sea captain, if your coordinate system is off by even a tiny bit, your destination will be missed by a heckuva lot.

Toward the middle of this clip Joel begins to lose a biblically-centered navigation system when he concedes: “I’m not against anything.” He and his wife Victoria also confess that they would attend a homosexual marriage; and therefore, be witness to, not speak out in objection to, and have to “forever hold their peace” about that union.

While some would certainly contend that the Osteens would be violating biblical principles in their willingness to attend a gay wedding, others would disagree.

The pastor did state that his willingness to attend the marriage of an individual who is close to him was rooted more in respect for that person than anything else. It is this case, he says, attending a gay wedding would be permissible, though Osteen was careful to let the audience know that he does, indeed, view homosexuality as sinful.

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  • renegadeav8r
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:41pm

    We now are to be attacked for our beliefs? Joel Osteen articulated his position well. He loves the people, but does not agree with their decision. Why is this hard for people to understand? I demand the right to my opinion (which is similar to Joel’s). Liberty means the freedom to agree or not agree. This country was founded on the basis that GOD provides our rights and the government may not take those away. It is as valid today as it was then. Support FlyingForLiberty and help us promote LIBERTY at air shows all over the USA!

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 6:26pm

      Nice try, but there is no room on the Blaze for real libertarianism. Toe the line or get out!

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 6:52pm

      Thats great! My pastor says he’ll stand shoulder to shoulder with the Muslims building a community center/Mosque in our town of 106K.

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    • ACLUHater
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 7:03pm

      He is nothing more than a businessman. He has to stay in the middle so he doesn’t alienate potential donors.

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 7:11pm

      Yo Chiefgeorge
      If I understand you right it’s time to leave that church and let the pastor use his own money. I know he would not get mine!

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    • j4diceusmc
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 7:20pm

      Next this televangelist will have Tammy Fay Baker crying on stage to get more money from home bound believers to support His UN scripture based agenda… History does repeat it self…. Can anyone here count to 3?? 3 days and 3 Nights .. Friday to Sunday morning before dawn is only 3 days and 2 nights…. We have not only inherited lies from our Government but our churches as well.. You cant twist the truth to fit YOUR agenda It Is simply the truth…

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    • coindexter
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 7:21pm

      why anyone cares is the fundaMENTAL question…i mean just look at these two dancing with the stars wannabees. RUN from that church!

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 7:26pm

      I agree with what JOEL said. WHO am I to judge. I think it’s a sin, but then I don’t walk in their shoes. IF it‘s a friend or someone I’ve worked with..you bet I wish them love and luck and would support them. DO NOT go after JOEL O’STEEN…he‘s a good man and he knows where he’s going when he dies.

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    • WeeDontNeedNoSteeeenkinBadges
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 7:29pm

      “Televangelist Joel Osteen Tells Piers Morgan He’d Attend a Gay Wedding”
      “That’s what I believe that the scripture says.”

      Oh?

      1 – It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and such sexual immorality as is not even named among the Gentiles …
      2 – And you are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he who has done this deed might be taken away from among you.
      3 – For I indeed, as absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged (as though I were present) him who has so done this deed.
      4 – In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
      5 – deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.”
      -1 Corinthians 5:1-5

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    • motonutt
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 7:44pm

      @PatHenrey….No slam here but….what do you really know about Joel? This guy is slicker that your new non stick skillet. You only know what you are allowed to see. Know one is this perfect, that sends red flags all over for me. I‘m not saying he’s a bad guy, but he is just to perfect. He say’s only what everyone want to hear. I was watching him one night years ago and I just felt the Holy Spirit say “no”…it’s phony. I have never watched him again.

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    • BibleGunClinger
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 8:09pm

      Osteen is a feel good, luke warm, tell you what you want to hear speaker. Homosexuality is wrong and the Bible is crystal clear on that. I do not doubt his salvation, but I do belive that he will be accountable to God someday for not preaching the truth and compromising what is true.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 8:28pm

      Should we be surprised?

      He is a money hungry fake, like most TV preachers. He obviously does not believe in the Bible, but he sure believes in the almighty dollar.

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    • mlcblog
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 8:52pm

      Thank you. Well stated. I couldn’t agree more, though I will be deciding not to attend a certain gay wedding I may be invited to because I don’t want to give approval in this case. My efforts in valuing my gay friend won’t include attending the wedding in this case.

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    • Devilmist
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 8:52pm

      This guy just like all the rest through out recent history. OH he STRONGLY believes some thing until it applies to his life. He is a motivational speaker with a Jesus tilt and that is all. He never says it takes Jesus to go to heaven. He has “took” over the family business from his father. he is a multi- millionaire who must not condemn any actions to keep the money ROLLING IN. If you want to feel good about sins your taking part in then tune him in and be cuddled.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 9:06pm

      @Weedontneed

      It is important to remember that 1 cor. 5 referes to sinning Christians. paul did not admonish the Corinthians to have nothing to do with the unChristian world but to shun those who claimed the name of Christ yet lived like the godless.

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    • Christhefarmer
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 9:19pm

      Good grief guys, I am looking at the Ten Commandments and I dont see anything about a man not laying with another man. Yes it does say it in the Bible and yes a city was destroyed for the inhabitants doing this among many other things. All sins are equal in God’s eyes he tells us not to do many things that most people do. Like to pick on the gays because you are not gay? Why don’t you pick on those that lie, because you do too? So Joel said he will go to a gay marriage, do you go to stores on the Sabbath, do you yourself work on the Sabbath? On Joel himself, he has came to the decision that he is wiser then God. He says to him your message will not bring enough people to you, here let me change your message and make it more inclusive that way lots of people can hear the fragments of your word.

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    • Christhefarmer
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:15pm

      Laying with a member of the same sex is a sin. So is stealing, people know someone is in the wrong when they proclaim they are a thief. One could say people are born with kleptomania, but it is not acceptable to just embrace it say God made you this way and go right on stealing. It is something to struggle against. You might be born attracted to members of the same sex but it is also something to struggle against, and just like kleptomania it should not be an acceptable thing in our society. Don’t condemn the person, condemn the action and those that strive to make it acceptable in our society. For those that embrace their sins we should have compassion not scorn, for those that try to have our nation embrace their sins we should scorn.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:20pm

      Joel Osteen will do or say anything to get a few more $$$ in his coffers. I trust him as far as I can toss out the garbage. He reminds me of the politicians in Congress and the White house.

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    • godhead
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:37pm

      “Joel” would to to a gay wedding? Uh-ooooooh. You know what thaaaat means.

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    • Amos37
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:55pm

      Homosexuality only reproduces unrighteousness, and that’s all there is to it.

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    • TheVOR
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:02am

      The Bible seems pretty clear. Here is some of the Scripture Joel might have been referring too.

      Leviticus 18:22 “Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.”

      Leviticus 20:13 “If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”

      1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

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    • LaidBackTaps
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:13am

      Joel Osteen – ha HA ha ha ha… Scamming “ Evangelistic ” poor excuse for what he could be ( pardoning the fact we could all do more, like me.. ) Joel has to have not one bit of substance in his preaching, almost never reciting or naming scriptural passages and backs everything up with …YOU’LL FEEL BETTER! Give, forgive be happy. everything is wonderful and your life will be perfect…. ITS A JOKE PEOPLE! You watch him enough you’ll see he nothing like John Haggee, Charles Stanley Billy and Franklin Graham and so many others.

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    • JJ Coolay
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:37am

      Piers does not understand what a judge is.
      Just because someone believes something does not make them judgemental.
      For a Christian to say to the world “Homosexuality is a sin” is not being judgmental. It’s being a messenger. God made the rules. Christians try to live by what He said was right and wrong. Other people choose to live their lives just like Christians choose to live their lives.
      If someone said Heterosexuality was a sin, I wouldn’t call them judgemental. I would say that is their belief—right or wrong, that’s all it is.

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    • ant2hony
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:42am

      The Mormon Church is firm on its position condemning homosexuality as sinful behavior. What would Glenn Beck say ?

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    • beentheredonethatsoiknow
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 2:16am

      “We claim the privilege of worshiping almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege. Let them worship how, where, or what they may.” Hmmm. Interesting idea. So I don’t have to believe the same things that everyone else does. Kind of like saying, “Mind your own business.”

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    • WeeDontNeedNoSteeeenkinBadges
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 4:36am

      @Islesfordian – “1 cor. 5 referes to sinning Christians. paul did not admonish the Corinthians to have nothing to do with the unChristian world”

      In daily living, yes, because that’s unavoidable. But the principle here is Godly behavior or worldly behavior (a measure that will be applied to all humanity) and it’s above stated consequences, because:

      14 – … For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?
      15 – And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever?
      - 2 Corinthains 6:14-15

      “[Joel Osteen] and his wife Victoria also confess that they would attend a homosexual marriage … [and] not speak out in objection to … that union.”

      To such “ministers”, God gives a dire warning:

      “When I say to the wicked, ‘You shall surely die,’ and you give him no warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life, that same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood I will require at your hand.” – Ezekiel 3:18

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 6:22am

      I agree. One thing I would like to point out is that a true Christian might not agree with the lifestyle, we would never wish anyone in the gay community harm. It is a misconception that we hate them . That is an issue that is between God and the individual. I would never mistreat anyone for being gay, I would pray for them. I think that the gay community is mislead beacause we disagree and therefore lean toward the democrats , believing that they are accepted more. There is no greater proof of concern than to pray for someone. Christians may not have the same beliefs, but I do not think a real Christian would never inflict violence on them for their sexual preference. And if they needed food or water or help. we would be there.

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    • old white guy
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 9:31am

      because you are neither hot nor cold but lukewarm i will spew you out of my mouth.

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    • REALID 239823749828-HIF
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:14am

      @THEVOR
      Dude, the verses you quoted are part Mosaic Law. Gentiles never lived under Mosaic Law, and Jews don’t either since the coming of Christ. One of the very *points* of Mosaic Law was that no one could follow it to the letter except Christ. Do you really believe that God would advocate killing homosexuals? Remember, it’s his will that none should perish.

      Jesus loved sinners just as much as the righteous, but he hated their sin. That is what we’re supposed to do as Christians. You have no right to judge anyone, because no matter what they do, you’re just as evil. Sin is sin, period. You are to love them and teach them and guide them, if you can, otherwise, pray for them.

      I’m sorry, if this comes off as harsh it’s only because people that use verses from the Law to uphold untenable positions that make Christians look bad is a really sore spot for me.

      Please read the following before posting verses from Mosaic Law again:
      http://bible.org/article/mosaic-law-its-function-and-purpose-new-testament

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    • Knight Templar
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:43am

      @ REALID 239823749828-HIF—- Followed you link good article, but, if you life of “liberty in Christ” does not equal that standard you have some serious issues. Also, I am not just as evil. But then, I am not a Calvinist either.

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    • REALID 239823749828-HIF
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:40pm

      @KNIGHT TEMPLAR
      By human moral standards, no, you are not. But in the eyes of God, you absolutely are. There are not different levels of sin. By the virtue of original sin, and because no one is capable of leading a sinless life, you, and I, deserve death, both physical and spiritual. That goes for every human who has ever existed, Jesus being the only exception.

      I assume when you mention “liberty in Christ” you’re talking about living under Grace, as opposed to living under the Law. You are at least somewhat correct. The law should be used as a moral compass. If you don’t know whether or not something is a sin, see what the law says about it. And yes, we are to try to live up to that standard. But, really, I already said that in my first post by mentioning that we are to strive to be like Christ, who was sinless and did live up to the Law.

      All of that being said, the post that I was replying to implied that we should kill gays and be justified in doing it because the Bible says so. In fact, when read in the proper context and with the proper understanding, the Bible says no such thing. To claim that it does is extremely destructive to the Christian faith, and that was my complaint.

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    • imreddog
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:10pm

      Osteen is a grinning idiot. The only thing that he is interested in is money and lots of it. He, and others, are mentioned in the Bible… Matthew 24.
      Matt 24:4-5
      4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
      5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
      (KJV)

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    • ltb
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:34pm

      Everyone sins. Gay activists want everyone else to validate their lifestyle, so they constantly shove their sex lives into the faces of an unwilling public. Who in the Hell would be proud of their son for being gay? How many parents look at their 1 year old son and think, “Oh, I hope you grow up to have sex with other men”? I couldn’t care less what people do in their bedrooms and I’ll bet that Joel Osteen couldn’t either. Quite frankly, I get sick and tired of hearing about homosexuality from the moment the morning news comes on my radio to the last sitcom on TV at night. You can try to convince people all day long that homosexuality is normal, but if two people of the same sex have sex they will never ever produce a child and that is what makes it a sin, because the purpose of sex is for man to go forth and multiply. For every person who’s reading this and living a gay lifestyle, God loves you even though you are a sinner. That is the whole reason Jesus came to earth, to die for us sinners. Your sins are no worse than my, or Joel Osteen’s sins, but if you choose to believe that you don’t sin and that you don’t need a savior to stand in your place when you’re judged, then I pit you. You will find out after you die that you made a horrific mistake and you will spend an eternity hating yourself for the wonderful gift of salvation that you rejected, all because you refused to accept the truth.

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    • ltb
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:41pm

      LaidBackTaps
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:13am
      Joel Osteen – ha HA ha ha ha… Scamming “ Evangelistic ” poor excuse for what he could be ( pardoning the fact we could all do more, like me.. ) Joel has to have not one bit of substance in his preaching, almost never reciting or naming scriptural passages and backs everything up with …YOU’LL FEEL BETTER! Give, forgive be happy. everything is wonderful and your life will be perfect…. ITS A JOKE PEOPLE! You watch him enough you’ll see he nothing like John Haggee, Charles Stanley Billy and Franklin Graham and so many others.

      —–

      FYI: Joel Osteen, that man you’re slandering, doesn’t take a salary for preaching to his 40,000+ size congregation. How many CEOs of a corporation that has 40,000+ employees do you know who work for free?

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    • Knight Templar
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 3:58pm

      @ REALID 239823749828-HIF— The last paragraph of your last post I agree with wholeheartedly. On some of the other points we could keep going but this is not the forum for that.

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    • jzs
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 5:14pm

      TheVOR, I’m not sure you can go strictly by the words in the Bible. Yes, there is the quotes about a “man lying with a man.” There’s a lot of other quotes too:

      Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
      All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
      They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB – the way I read that, it’s kill anyone, including children, who believe in another God)

      Anyway, there would sure be a lot of killin’ if we were to go strictly by the Bible.

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    • Libertyluvnmomma
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 9:12pm

      Joel speaks to huge crowds because he is leading them all through the huge paved road to hell.
      Bye, Joel!

      The smaller narrower gate gets little traffic. Right, Jesus?

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    • Libertyluvnmomma
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 9:37pm

      Biblegunclinger- and God will spit the lukewarm out of his mouth.
      Joel Olsteen of Laodocia
      False prophet.
      That smile is going to disappear pretty darn fast for misleading all those people.
      so sad. Christians living on milk toast with no desire for more.
      With Voddie Baucham I just need a knife and fork with my Bible.

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    • TheVOR
      Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:30am

      Dear REALID 239823749828-HIF,

      Thank-you for your post, and for the useful and instructive link you provided me. The article reinforced some things and provided additional edification.

      Here are my thoughts. First, I was not calling for, nor suggesting the Bible calls for the killing of homosexuals. I believe that in the Old Testament “Law” days that is what the law prescribed as justice. Prior to Jesus, I think we can agree, that people were put to death for sin (look at Sodom). Since the birth, crucifixion, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, we are under a new covenant. And, that says; we have all sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. But, whosoever believes in Christ shall not perish but have everlasting life.

      I think the Old Testament is still useful for edification and rebuke. And, shows us what is sinful behavior vs. righteous behavior. Where the Bible talks about certain acts or behavior resulting in death, I think it refers now to eternal death. Because, no matter the sin, robbing, cheating, lying, homosexuality, adultery, etc…; without salvation through the saving Grace of Christ, we are all sentenced to eternal death.

      Although much can get missed and misunderstood in the world of typing, texting, and blogging, I hope this clears things up.

      All I can say, is Thank God, for Jesus.

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  • momprayn
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:40pm

    Hmmmm…strange. From my research of him in the past and what he told Larry King one time – they don’t believe in talking about “sin” at his church. He also could not bring himself to answer Larry‘s question if ppl don’t believe in Jesus, do they go to heaven? He didn’t mention scriptures – just said he couldn’t “judge” and refused to answer it. I haven’t followed them since then but he was greatly criticized by other Christians. Of course this is TV, not church??? Well, anyway – thanks for saying it is a sin, but wrong about attending the wedding, in my humble opinion. I don’t even go to the weddings where there has been an unbiblical divorce in my family but I pray & respect them as fellow human beings.
    Think many ppl, including Christians – get very confused and are mistaught which has been very harmful. It isn’t a sin to simply have these abnormal sexual preferences – it’s only a sin when the choice is made to ACT on it, or lust that way. Just like it isn’t a sin for heteros to have normal preferences – only when they choose to act out of marriage, adultery, lust, etc. We need to love all people’s souls, hate the “sin” – treat all with respect & of course pray for them.

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    • Paulmtmorris
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 6:09pm

      Joel has stated last year that he does declare Jesus as the only means to salvation. He was on WMUZ The Light in Detroit. I can’t recall where he first said it after that King appearance. I find Olsteen to “wimpy”. I like more of a loving, servant leader who is a warrior/king kind of pastor.

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    • Cape_Lookout_RW_Extremist
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 6:54pm

      Good post Mom! In my humble opinion this guy is a fruitloop!

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 6:58pm

      We are all sinners before the Lord, but when those who are appointed to preach the word of God take it upon themselves to decide unilaterally that there are some things they will not say on Gods behalf, well that is totally another story altogether. God is going to hold us all to account for the things we have said, done and yes written. A pastor who cannot bring himself to tell the whole scripture because he is afraid for his own reasons or worse yet, afraid that people will not love God as he is. God doesnt need a mere man to dress him up and make him acceptable to the masses. He already tells us that the road to destruction is wide and narrow is the gate to salvation and few find it.

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    • motonutt
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 7:06pm

      This guy is just to slick. Never say’s anything controvercial. Loved by everybody….I just can’t see Jesus overseeing a gay marriage. that’s all.

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    • MaxBaxter
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 8:10pm

      Thanks you for bringing this up.
      Homosexuality is NOT a sin, homosexual acts are.
      Let’s make it absolutelly clear.

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 8:20pm

      For all who condemn homosexuality, I agree. However I also place adultery in the same catagory. It’s
      all sin. Too many are practicing adultery and no one thinks anything about it. To God, sin is sin. Do we refuse to attend a wedding of two people who’ve been living together? Come on, be real about sin.
      All manner of sin can be forgiven by God. That includes adultery or homosexuality. Give them a chance to be forgiven.

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  • HD Veteran
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:36pm

    Piers job is always to convince the Conservatives he interviews they are wrong, and to congratulate liberals on being right.

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    • mlcblog
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 8:55pm

      Excellent observation, and he did it well here.

      I notice much misquoting and half-truths when people are so busy condemning this pastor.

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    • TheVOR
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 11:19pm

      HD Veteran, you hit the nail on the head.

      If you were to look up “pejorative talk show host” in the dictionary; you would see
      a picture of Piers Morgan.

      He is also a master at the harangue.

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    • catholiccowboy
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 7:24am

      lets shine a little light on the whole [Gay marrige] thing…marrige is not a man made union between two people….it is and always will be a God made union with a specific purpose. We can debate this till the cows come home, but in the end God is the author of all life. He alone gives life, he alone blesses the union between man and women. If we think we can make a change to what we think is right…or…if we reason in our own minds that this isn’t wrong based on some flawed man made truth! Just know that God will have the last word! I the beginning God made man in his image….and it would seem that man has been trying to make God in ours ever since. No one will change God just because we don’t like his message. They tried that once already and it ended with him dieing on a cross. If a union between two people has no life giving quility it is essentially dead before it starts. No one will ever convince me that homosexuality has any place in heaven, it simply diffies all reason!

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  • undercover
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:36pm

    A Chistian could no more attend a gay wedding than he could participate in a bank robbery or watch a man and a woman in the act of adultery. Thanks Joel for admitting that homosexuality is a sin, but obviously you don’t understand that participating in someone elses sin is just as sinful.

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    • Nlitend1
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 6:50pm

      really? a christian cannot attend a gay marriage without sinning? really? what if you attend in order to object? what if it was your job, let’s say you did catering or something? What if you just loved your fellow man and wanted to watch a couple’s happy moment? is that too far? no happy moments for mr. christ von jesus.
      It’s a really fun analogy you give…bank robbing, but they are a bit different aren’t they? Maybe it’s all clear cut for you and a sin is sin is a sin, and attending is somehow equatable to performing the ceremony or giving your stamp of approval personally to a marriage. But, by this logic, any sin that you sit around and watch or allow to happen without overt disapproval is your sin as well. BTW, did you know it is sin to teach the bible incorrectly…it’s a big sin. And if your pastor teaches something that is not exactly correct, ei. it is okay to attend gay weddings, he is committing that sin. How about you though, according to your logic, watching it on tv is participating in that sin…it really doesn‘t matter that you don’t condone it, because you watched it. Were you able to follow all of that, I was calling you a hypocrite.

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    • Wayne
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 6:59pm

      I would not watch Osteen at all, he is in it for the money he will go any direction and agree with anyone as long as as he don’t lose money. His church is a joke, he don’t mention the word sin that might make someone mad also, he a not a God called preacher if he was he would try to get people saved, and you can’t do that without preaching about sin and the Devil. Hes a JOKE.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 7:03pm

      Jesus sat with the sinners to share the word of Love, repentance and the Kingdom of his father. He did not therefore participate in their sins merely being with them. If one attends a gay marriage, then one is celebrating this abomination before God almighty. They then are participating. I would not participate in someones use of drugs, celebrating their drug use, or celebrating their desire to cheat on their spouse.

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    • Tall Tal
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 7:33pm

      Who are we to judge Joel or Victoria. They will have to answer to God for their decisions. The only idea that I have is that as Pastors of Lakewood they have a responsibility to their members to set the standard. If it offended a brother or sister in the Lord I would not go to a gay wedding. Weddings are for a man and a woman. that is Gods definition . God loves the sinner, but hates the sin.Enough said.We as Believers are to avoid all appearances of evil.So take that as a warning.

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 7:44pm

      Hmmm? Interesting that Jesus could go among the sinners and be comfortable ministering to them. I would go to a gay marriage (even tho I don’t approve) but if it were a friend or family, I’d feel it my duty and right to stand by a person who might be a sinner in our eyes, because I know God sent us out there to save the sinner and how can we do that by ignoring them?

      Very strange a Christian would turn a cold shoulder to a sinner, when Jesus asked us to go out into the world (which are not all Christian Believers) and minister unto them. Be friends with all who might learn through our actions. Nobody likes a sour puss Christian turning up their noses to the unsaved. I couldn’t imagine turning out a family member over this, it’s unchristian.

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    • richard the lion-hearted
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:03am

      Sin is sin, our ultimate goal as Christians should be full-time missionaries, an example at all times. That being said how many people who say they wouldn‘t attend a gay funeral would go to an unwed mother’s baby shower, prop up an unwed mother with honor rather than shame? Speak against abortion no matter what the consequences, to whomever? Too many pick and choose the ‘sin’ they fight against when they should be an unwavering example against ALL sin. Hate the sin, teach the consequences, when in your power mete out the consequences for sin with love and disipline that has a true, powerful possibility of teaching a lesson that will actually benefit the person. But remember, never, never judge!! Why the Lord Jesus Christ has the power and honor to judge is because He suffered through ALL anguish from sin from all who ever lived and will yet live. With that knowledge Jesus knows every aspect of sin, what led one to it, and every thought from the broken-hearted that led to those bad desicions. I personally have come to know that most sin is out of despair, and weakness from life’s travails, not because someone is outright evil and those lost brethern and sisters need love and understanding from their fellow God-fearing christian, not condemnation, they still have a lifetime to prepare like everyone else, GUIDE THEM!

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  • 4merhipie
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:36pm

    You cannot walk in the middle. He is trying too hard not to offend.

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  • HD Veteran
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:34pm

    So a good Christian avoids judging, yet it is to be understood the gay community has a reason to be angry.

    So Christians should not be allowed an opinion, yet the gay community should.

    Hmmmmmmmmmm.

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    • Nlitend1
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 6:34pm

      It seems to me that the gay community is allowed to do a lot of things that christians are not. Did I understand this incorrectly? Why do you want all the ‘rights’ the gay community has anyway? Atheists clearly have more rights than christians also…does that make you feel persecuted or something? It’s kind of your choice you know.

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    • WeeDontNeedNoSteeeenkinBadges
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 7:50pm

      “gay community”?

      Don‘t fall into the perverts’ “rhetoric” trap. They are … SEX PERVERTS … SODOMITES … HOMOSEXUALS. A community? Laughably no. A nest? Perhaps, like that of Sodom and Gomorrah:

      5 – But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
      6 – And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;
      7 – as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
      - Jude 1:5-7

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  • Kathleen
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:33pm

    If they do a remake of Jesus Christ Superstar what part would Piers Morgan play.

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  • Phonecallinfool
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:33pm

    DAN@AL
    I believe you are insightful and correct. Health and wealth are his agenda even though the New Testament never teaches it. You are spot-on!

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    • jmaster67
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 6:33pm

      The NT is not silent on either health or wealth.
      That said Joel Osteen is usually silent on the NT.

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  • dan@AL
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:29pm

    Saw him in person once and thats all it took. He is no more a man of GOD than Obama, his entire message was about prosperity. He is only in it for the money, but GOD can use anyone and he may have turned some to the right path but after the above statements I have ho faith in his faith. GOD will judge us all including me (cause no one is perfect)

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    • webpreacher
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:41pm

      DAN@AL, You are exactly right,, Osteen is nothing more than a motivational speaker, who knows how to woo a crowd.. A false teacher, False Pastor & preacher, one who tickles the ears, makes people feel good about themselves. Well, that is NOT what God’s Word does when preached, either one false to their knees seeking mercy, or runs for the hills in rebellion. Joel Osteen is a lost sinner in need of the Savior, Jesus, God’s Christ.

      http://www.Jesus-is-Savior.com for more on Osteen log on to this site.

      http://www.GodSaid/ManSaid.com a good source for information on Biblical studies.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 7:12pm

      The thing about Osteen is his message never changes, its always about self determination and humanist pursuits of happiness wrapped in a Christain blankey to make you feel all warm and snuggley. A real man of God makes you feel uncomfortable because the truth of our nature is an ugly one with many blemishes before God almighty. Thankfully Jesus takes that from us and we are hid in his forgiveness. People can’t seem to grasp that concept of total forgiveness that Christ offers for free with no strings attached. We miss the mark always because we want to revert right over to “I must do something to earn my way to God” or I am not good enough so I must clean myself off. I am not judging Osteen, God will do that. Besides the real meaning of judging in the Jewish language is Condemning! We are to be discerning of sin and to rebuke it from our lives continually. Only then can we help our brothers and sisters. Osteen…..there is more to the Bible than what your preaching on. Your gift of ministry cannot be to just one specific area and nothing else. People must be told about heaven and hell. They must be told about all sins that are abhorent to God. They must be told about the deliverance from the Laws of Moses and the redemption of Christ. The whole scheme of the Bible points to his coming.

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    • Tall Tal
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:28am

      WE MADE A COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT JUDGING . It seem some here have decided to disregard that statement. Those who call Joel names and say bad things about him had better be carefull. You are speaking about Gods anointed servant,There is danger there. His answer to God for his own shortcommings will be like my own, I have to stand before God and answer for my own.

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  • simplygilly
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:29pm

    Sodomy is condoned by no religion, is illegal in most countries around the world, and punishable by death in some. Legalizing same sex marriage, legalizes sodomy. Only in America… land of the free, home of the brave and same sex butt lovers. Geez

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    • Cape_Lookout_RW_Extremist
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 6:59pm

      I hear ya! They‘ve given us a disease we can’t cure, they can’t propagate the human species, and something about the ripping and tearing of anul flesh just doesn’t seem normal to me.

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  • Phonecallinfool
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:29pm

    That this is a “controversial” issue indicates how pluralistic our society has become at the expense of a moral standard of any kind, much less a biblical one. It would seem many have become so “open minded” that their brains have fallen out and they can’t even see it. It escapes me how anyone can read Scripture and not understand that homosexuality is clearly forbidden/condemned in the Old Testament and listed in the New Testament among other categories of sinful behavior identifying those who will not enter the kingdom of heaven. Again, as has been stated by others, there is no room for a hateful or mean-spirited attitude toward those who insist on disregarding any other standard but their own. But Osteen is “dancing” when he says he isn’t “against anybody” because he is mandated in Scripture to “resist” what the Scriptures identify as evil as all of us who live by a Scriptural pattern are commissioned to do.

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  • Taxpayer550
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:28pm

    Over and over again in scripture, homosexuality is regarded as sin. All of man‘s acceptance and legislation won’t change that. If you’re an atheist and a homosexual, you really shouldn’t care if another person disagrees with your lifestyle, and you really shouldn’t care that God does, since you don’t believe in Him in the first place. Just don‘t get to the end of your life and find out that you’re wrong!

    If you’re a Christian or a Muslim and you back the gay agenda, then you have some serious contradiction issues to deal with.

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    • oneshiner
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:33am

      Homosexuality is a sin, period. Adultery is a sin, period. Lying, stealing, cheating are sins we seem to accept, why? Sin is sin in God’s eyes.
      Galatians: Works of the flesh: Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred,variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envying, murders, drunkenness, revellings etc, and THEY which do such things shall NOT inherit the Kingdom of God.
      WOW!
      Seems like there‘s more common things most of us do daily that are sinful in God’s eyes. God would leave the entire flock to find one who is lost. So, who are we to condemn the person WE believe is in sin, when God wants to save all? Jesus said: Joy shall be in Heaven over ONE sinner that repenteth. All are sinful and fall short of Glory. Pray for that person, not condemn.

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:28pm

    Not a fan of Osteen; too many smiles. Don‘t care who’s wedding he goes to. Boring story but it is a slow news day.

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  • TH30PH1LUS
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:28pm

    I will add here, however, that ATTENDING ANY WEDDING which you do not support (heterosexual OR homosexual) is an act of hypocrisy.

    If you cannot support the union – don’t go. Stand for what you believe.

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    • Tim Law
      Posted on October 6, 2011 at 2:03am

      Amen brother! I agree though I’m sure very few others do. I have a gay step brother,did not go to his wedding, it not condoned by GOD. Have a friend got married in Aug. He told me did not want to get married, but his lady did, so he was going to. And he did. I did not go to that wedding either, I don’t think that marriage is going to last. The intent of marriage is a life long commitment between a man and a woman in the sight of GOD. It’s not my place to judge. But it is up to me to keep my own moral compass. As for Mr. Joel Osteen he will stand before the LORD as we all will. The LORD knows what is in every man’s heart.

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  • TH30PH1LUS
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:26pm

    Piers Morgan:

    You stated you believe that “people don’t choose” homosexuality. What else do you BELIEVE?

    Do you believe in the Scriptures? Evidently not.

    This is a discussion about religious belief. You came across as (yet another) Christ-ophobic acidic Hollywood atheist. We’ve all seen this done 1,000 times. Yawn.

    If he’d had some stinky bearded Imam on his show threatening to slit the throats of infidels, he probably would have shown more respect. But no, have a loving Christian on and bash away! It’s all the rage.

    Thanks for sticking to the Bible, Joel !

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  • Dismayed Veteran
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:25pm

    My wife and I are Catholics. We listen to Joel Osteen at 11:30 PM because we are uplifted by his preaching. I am disappointed that he did not remain in line with his beliefs. I will continue to listen to him since he is a man and thus can make mistakes. To any Catholics on the posting, Joel Osteen is an evangelist who doesn’t hit you up for money. You will not feel uncomfortable listening to his sermons.

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    • Via Dolorosa
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:31pm

      I respectfully beg to differ – ALL of the tv so called “preachers” DO hit people up for money – they may not on air but go to one of their “conferences” – where they have endless tables lined up with books, cds, dvds, their latest book(s), tshirts, etc.

      These “preachers” have turned the church into a den of thieves – just as it’s written in the Holy Bible. Joyce Meyer? No different.

      The decent true Christian preachers (men of God) you won’t normally see on tv – you’ll see the good ones preaching away in tiny white wooden churches across rural America – the ones that feel blessed if they break 50 dollars on the tote board.

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    • renegadeav8r
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:44pm

      I agree. I am also Catholic and listen to Joel each week. He gives a positive message. We need more positive messages in the world. Amen.

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    • mycomet123
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 6:11pm

      I am Catholic & I also listen to Joel Osteen. I do not consider him a Bible based preacher though, he’s more of a positive thinker motivational speaker-which we all need. His father John Osteen was more Bible based. I also enjoy Joyce Meyer’s & T.D. Jakes–these two are more meat & potatoes preachers. My ownly problem with Joel is he tends to skirt around issues–smiling all the way.

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  • Jezreel
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:21pm

    That interviewer does not understand because “The natural man receives not the things of God”. He cannot know them, nor understand them. That is why unbelievers get angry and upset and accuse you of judging them.
    Joel Osteen is being made to choose what side he is on and stand fast. All pastors and teachers and so called religious leaders are going to have to choose God or choose the world. Most will be too afraid to stand for Christ and will deny Him because God will use that to separate the wheat from the tares, the good fish from the bad fish. God will send his angels and gather out of his kingdom all those who offend and committ iniquity. Jesus said, “marvel not that the world hate you because it hated me first”. If any man deny Jesus, Jesus will deny him and be ashamed on him when he comes in his kingdom with his holy angels in power and great glory. We we are not ashamed of Him, he will not be ashamed of us.
    Blessed is the man who is not offended in Me, Jesus says. That is why so many people are offended at the message of the cross of Christ, they are not blessed, they are cursed and will be judged by the law at the Great White throne judgment seat.

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    • Via Dolorosa
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:27pm

      Exactly, my friend !! It is all about God or the world – and everyone is totally free to choose which one.

      Sad thing though – we have soooooo many people out here, many claming to be Christians, who claim to not even believe in hell or satan.

      They just want to believe in the “good” stuff – not the scary bad stuff.

      These folks had best wake up – before it is too late for their soul.

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    • PilgrimStuckInBizarroWorld
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 7:44pm

      And people who are in positions of influence, aka, ministers are going to be held at a higher standard than the average folks. I know we should not judge but a marriage is a covenant between God and the people getting married. As a witness we are agreeing to help to uphold this promise. It’s a responsibility witnessing this scared moment. TRUTH

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 8:54pm

      “As a witness we are agreeing to help to uphold this promise.”

      that’s not true. A witness is just a witness. There is no agreement to help unless it is stated. In tarditional services it is, buy not in many new fangled ones where the couple writes their own vows and all that garbage. Many moden wedding are devoid of the sacred element. there is no covenant. God is not invoked and nthe witnesses are not asked to help keep the coupkle faithful..

      Living in a small community, 70 in the winter and 350 in the summer, I see quite a few weddings but not as many truky sacred unions. What am i witnessing? Perhaps I understand better than the godless couples. hat would my judgment mean to them? Nothing. pearls before swine. So I grace with my presence what there is there to grace, the dim acceptance that marriage is a good thing.

      Would I go to the wedding of a person who wrongfully divorced a spouse? no. Would I go to a gay wedding? No. these aren’t things that are good, though God is gracious even to sinners and even in the act of sin. But I am not God and I can’t presume to know how grace works. I know hopw sin works and I don’t want to seem to be approving it. I don‘t feel going to a godless wedding is approving of sin becaus ethe marriage is real even if they don’t understand it, and marriage is better than fornication even for the godless. But adultery and sodomy can never be right or good.

      those are MY standards. You mileage may vary.

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  • dap94
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:19pm

    I respect his position. He does not condemn homosexuality, but simply reflects historic incidents in the Bible that imply that it is a sin . He is not judging, and respects others who are homsexuals. This would be same approach Jesus would take, and maybe an approach others should take as well!

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    • Via Dolorosa
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:24pm

      No, DAP – I highly doubt Jesus Christ would attend a wedding of two men or women.

      The Bible tells us that in the end days, the church pastor’s will be teaching false doctrine.

      Mr. Osteen teaches that “feel good” doctrine – the doctrine that doesn’t offend anyone – and which teaches that all of mankind will be allowed to enter Heaven – as long as we all just try to “be good”.

      That is false doctrine.
      When you accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, it’s more than just “saying” or “thinking” it. You have to do a complete 180 in your life – and start serving, and following, Christ Jesus – AND His laws.

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    • Wayner
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:38pm

      A guy with a name like Piers has got to be some sort of fairy to start with…. No matter how much he kicks against the goads.. God says, “I AM the LORD and I change not”….

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    • jmaster67
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 6:36pm

      The Bible more than implies that it is a sin. It states so outright.

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    • loveandacceptance
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 9:55pm

      Hey Via……you eat pork? You read Leviticus lately and abide by His laws? Jesus came to free people from sin and death and the curse of the law by infecting them with his spirit, his love and his truth – not pushing them away by condemning them for their actions.

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  • Via Dolorosa
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:19pm

    Mankind keeps repeating how society has changed – and how the Bible is outdated. But the hard reality is……. the Bible, nor the words, have nor ever will change – not one jot or tittle. You can bank on that.

    Mankind is, as usual, trying to fit Jesus around THEIR lifestyle and choices – instead of adjusting their lives/choices to His laws.
    The Osteens need to find their Christian backbone and use it – and stop mamby pambying during these talk show gigs.

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  • Gates
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:17pm

    Joel Osteen denies the very essence of the faith he says he represents by denying Christ as the only way to heaven. Anything else he has to say after that is meaningless to me.

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  • NewLife56
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:15pm

    Yep it’s a sin, and so is a number of other things, and I just thank God he sent Jesus to forgive us, and take our punishment, thank you Christ

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  • Islesfordian
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:12pm

    Impressive. I always saw Osteen as a little light in the doctrine area. But if he can stand his ground against the PC forces of the Velvet Mafia and do so grounded in Scripture then he is a better man than I took him for.

    Kudos to Joel.

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    • stumblemouth
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 6:05pm

      To oppose homosexuality but not same sex marriage is to give de facto approval to the gay relationship. (Being silent during the ceremony when asked if anyone objects would be tacit approval.) Osteen and others who preach the “prosperity Gospel” are light on doctrine and heavy on trying to squeeze the camel through the needle’s eye for their own material enrichment.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 7:47pm

      Egg on my face. The headline mislead me and I missed the part where he implicitly approved gay marriage.

      I guess I wasn’t that wrong about him after all.

      Too bad.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 8:16pm

      Alright, this just occured to me (sorry, I’ve been busy) but in traditional ceremonies it is asked if anyone objects to the marriage the should speak et cet., but gay marriages aren’t traditional. I’ve been to quite a few where that traditional question was never asked.

      The last wedding I attended was entirely godless with not a scintilla of religion or even “spirituality” in it. What was i witnessing? Something truly sacred? ehhhh.

      So I’m going to give the Osteens a pass on this. It’s not our place to interject our judgments when they are not invited, and I’m guessing that even a gay wedding that uses the traditional formula is imoplictly expecting people to ignore that question, so it still wouldn’t be our place to speak up with our condemnation at that time.

      Now if I was a clergyman that might be different. Gosh, I’m thinking this out as I go along. so now I’m back to thinking that anyone who makes his calling speaking the truth not God should not let his silent, and aquiescent, presence confuse what he formally preaches.

      Sorry Joel, but you’ve got to man up. You’ve got to back up what you preach, and that comes with hard witnessing.

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  • akers75
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:11pm

    a sin is a sin no matter how you try to word it!!!!

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  • Quasimofo
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:08pm

    So is lying and stealing. What’s your point?

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    • thegreatcarnac
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:19pm

      The point is……:
      …do you promote lying and stealling. Do you think it is alright to lie and to steal in light of what the Bible teaches??????? Do you think it is a sin?
      ….the Bible says the same of homosexality…it says it is a sin.
      ….therefore…..Osteen is correct. It is a sin.
      ..

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  • thegreatcarnac
    Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:05pm

    Homosexuality IS a sin. Osteen is correct. He is wrong about Christians attending a gay-wedding. Christians should not abate or condone such behavior by celebrating with such a travesty. Christians are not to be mean or hateful to anyone…including gays. However their actions should be condemned.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:30pm

      The Bible also tells us not to have fellowship with them and other “workers of darkness”.
      No hate involved. Just no fellowship or condoning of sinful behavior.

      Same as the recent story here about the mother who would not attend her childs wedding, eventhough she loves her child.

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    • Secessionista
      Posted on October 5, 2011 at 10:30pm

      As a Christian, I cannot go to a gay wedding. No more so than I could ride along with a bank robber or sit in on the making of a snuff movie. It’s not that I hate these people, it’s just that they are choosing to be evil and I should not support their behavior. Much like Muslims and Jews. They are in darkness, and I would only make it worse on them to persecute them. But I certainly do not have to attend bomb-making classes with Muslim extremists in order to be a good Christian. I already know how to make bombs anyway. Big OK City sized bombs. The fact is, I choose not to. Joel is trying his best not to alienate potential Christians (and perhaps to increase his book sales). I do not accuse him for that, either. He can life his life in peace, even if I think he has made a mistake on this topic. This just might be what brings him down, it was a huge mistake, one that others might somewhat unfairly judge him by. I’ll also add that Piers Morgan, being the ultimate worker for the devil, is a sneaky dude. Joel was perhaps a little too egotistical and hubristic to throw himself right into the den of thieves, liars, and murderers, and think he could come out unscathed. God may protect us, but not if we walk into the bank with a gun and ski mask. Some things are just plain dangerous and stupid.

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