Televangelists Accused of Defrauding $50 Million from Trinity Broadcasting Network
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(The Blaze/AP) — Televangelists Paul and Jan Crouch have faced plenty of mountains building their religious broadcast empire — among them allegations of a homosexual tryst and a prolonged battle with the Federal Communications Commission — but the most recent attack on the founders of Trinity Broadcasting Network comes from their own flesh and blood.
Their granddaughter, Brittany Koper, recently filed court papers that include allegations of $50 million in financial shenanigans at the world’s largest Christian broadcasting network. Her suit was followed by another from a Koper in-law, who detailed opulent spending at the network on items such as private jets, mansions in California, Tennessee and Florida and a $100,000 mobile home for Jan Crouch’s dogs.
The lawsuits came after Koper’s husband was accused by a debt collection company of embezzling more than $1 million from TBN. The debt collection company that filed the lawsuit later added the Crouches’ granddaughter and two of her in-laws as defendants.
The outbreak of legal skirmish offers a rare window into the secretive world of the sprawling religious non-profit and exposes a family feud that could draw more outside scrutiny of TBN. Attorneys from both sides say they have contacted police and the Internal Revenue Service.
The Crouches founded TBN in 1973 and grew it into an international Christian empire that beams prosperity gospel programming — which promises that if the faithful sacrifice for their belief, God will reward them with material wealth — to every continent but Antarctica 24 hours a day, seven days a week. It has 78 satellites and more than 18,000 television and cable affiliates and owns seven other networks, as well as its headquarters in Costa Mesa in Orange County, an estate outside Nashville called Trinity Music City, USA and the Holy Land Experience, a Christian amusement park in Orlando.
On any given day — or night — viewers from the United States to India can watch Christian-inspired news updates, documentaries, movies, talk shows and sermons by preachers such as Benny Hinn, T.D. Jakes and Dr. Creflo Dollar without leaving their armchairs.
The lawsuit attention comes at a bad time for TBN, which has seen viewer donations drop steeply. TBN raked in $92 million in donations in 2010 and cleared $175 million in tax-free revenue, but its net income plummeted from nearly $60 million in 2006 to a loss of $18 million in 2010, the most recent year available. Donations fell by nearly $30 million in the same period — a hit the network blames on the bad economy.
At the same time, Koper’s father — the eldest Crouch son — resigned abruptly as vice president and chief-of-staff late last year. The unexplained departure of Paul Crouch Jr. roughly coincided with his daughter’s legal battle and came just months after he launched iTBN, a project to expand the network’s online and mobile reach.
TBN places a premium on privacy and it’s almost impossible to divine what is going on behind the scenes. Yet televangelist empires built largely on charisma often encounter choppy waters as their founding personalities age.
“It’s true that in these large ministries, they do become family enterprises … and in many ways that can be a most precarious problem for them,” said David E. Harrell, a professor emeritus of American religion at Auburn University, who has written about well-known televangelists. “Business squabbles, if they’re complicated with family squabbles, can get nasty indeed.”
TBN referred requests for comment to its attorney, Colby M. May. Crouch Jr. did not return a call.
May dismissed the idea of family turmoil and said the reason behind the legal fight was simple: Koper and her husband stole from the network.
“They‘re attempting to create a diversion and to create as much public spectacle as they can in the vain hope that this will all get resolved and that’s simply not going to happen,” he said.
TBN’s reach and programming are expansive, but what is more impressive is the amount of money it receives from viewers — even in a downturn.
During TBN’s Praise-A-Thon earlier this month, a preacher exhorted viewers to bellow “Fear not!” three times, count down from 10 and then rush to the phone with donations. In exchange, he said, they would receive a miracle from God “about this time tomorrow.” Within seconds, all 200 phone lines were busy.
Ministry watchdogs have long questioned how TBN — which declared more than $800 million in net assets in 2010 — spends that wealth.
TBN files reports with the IRS, but the Crouches run nearly two dozen other organizations that are harder to track and they operate extensively overseas, said Rusty Leonard, who founded Wall Watchers, an organization that monitors the financial transparency of church ministries to which its members donate.
Wall Watchers gives TBN an ‘F’ for financial transparency and keeps them on its list of the 30 worst ministries.
“They could run a loss like the one they ran last year for an awfully long time before they would run out of money,” Leonard said. “They’re basically taking money from old people and putting it in their pocket and living the high life.”
Allegations of lavish spending are central in the battle between the Crouches’ granddaughter and a debt collection company called Redemption Strategies Inc., which was incorporated by a TBN attorney.
According to Koper’s attorney, the 26-year-old took over as chief financial officer at TBN after obtaining a master’s in business administration degree and quickly realized that its directors — her family members — were acting illegally.
Koper sent a memo to the board detailing her allegations, but was fired within days, said the attorney, Tymothy MacLeod.
Koper’s husband was sued by Redemption Strategies, which alleged he had embezzled hundreds of thousands while he worked at the family business. The debt collection company was registered with the state by a TBN attorney one day before it filed suit against Michael Koper.
The case was dismissed, but not before Brittany Koper and two in-laws were added as defendants.
Brittany Koper countersued, alleging that TBN’s attorneys formed Redemption Strategies to retaliate against her for whistleblowing.
Her suit doesn’t list TBN as a defendant, but it alleges that Koper was fired and made to turn over her house, condominium, life insurance policy, car, furniture and jewelry as “an act of Christian contrition” when she complained about the financial misdeeds at TBN.
A similar suit filed by Michael Koper’s uncle, Joseph McVeigh, alleges that TBN attorneys also targeted him as part of a campaign of retaliation.
McVeigh’s suit names TBN as one of seven defendants and alleges that TBN bought a $50 million luxury jet through a sham loan; owns an $8 million Hawker jet for Jan Crouch’s personal use; bought a $100,000 RV for Jan Crouch’s dogs and has 13 mansions and homes around the U.S. for the Crouch family’s use.
TBN attorney May called the McVeigh’s lawsuit a “tabloid filing” and said the allegations in both cases were “utterly and completely contrived.” TBN suspects McVeigh, who claims he received a $65,000 loan from the family empire, was working with the Kopers to steal money from the ministry, May said.
The network’s spending is in line with its mission to spread the gospel throughout the world, May said, and the Crouches travel by private jet because they have had “scores of death threats, more than the president of the United States.”
The ministry keeps large amounts of cash in reserve because incurring debt goes against the Biblical exhortation to “owe no man any thing,” he said.
“The answer is, there is no fire there,” May said. “They pay as they go and every now and then one of the things that they pay as they go on is the acquisition of a broadcast facility and that’s a multi-million dollar transaction.”
TBN is no stranger to outside scrutiny.
In 1998, the elder Crouch secretly paid an accuser $425,000 to keep quiet about allegations of a homosexual encounter. Crouch Sr. has consistently denied the allegations, which were first reported by the Los Angeles Times, and has said he settled only to avoid a costly and embarrassing trial.
In 2000, after a five-year battle, a federal appeals court overturned a ruling by the FCC that found Crouch had created a “sham” minority company to get around limits on the number of TV stations he could own.























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cookcountypatriot
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:56pmjesus!who would give these 2 clows a dime…i pray to our lord jesus that these people wake up
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 12:08amWhen I was a teenager back in the late 60s I helped with the oral Robert’s Ministry…It was a total sham. I did still go in the Ministry later. I never preached the prosperity Gospel. People who believe Christ is waiting to give to them for giving their money are suckers..
Report Post »USAMEDIC3008
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 12:52amThis can only help
Report Post »the great falling away
techengineer11
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 1:00amBaddoggy: While this story is just awful I‘m curious about elder Robert’s ministry. I’ve always heard that he was straight and sincere.. Obviously his son is a fake and a fraud but I’d always heard good things about Oral. Why do you say his ministry was not on the up and up?
Report Post »db321
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 3:44amIt is sad that some in the Ministry don’t hold a higher value. The people that gave the money to this organization, did what God instructed them to do and they will be blessed for it – on the other hand, the ones receiving them money will be held accountable for every penny on Judgement day.
Report Post »MYHEROISRON
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 6:23amClones of Jim and Tammy Faye Baker of PTL infamy?
Report Post »poorrichard09
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 8:10amI tell ya, every time the “big hair” and eye make-up are a dead give away something isn’t right. Remember Tammy Fay Baker?
Report Post »bitter.clinger
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 10:24amGlenn Beck needs to extend his “Question With Boldness” core belief to his association with John Hagee and any other televangelist / name-it-and-claim-it / health&wealth “gospel” type. John Hagee gets the same grade as the Paul Crouch family mentioned in the above article…and that grade is an “F” – http://www.ministrywatch.com/profile/john-hagee-ministries.aspx Gloria Copeland Spoke at Glenn’s 8/27/10 Divine Destiny event…and the Copelands also rate an “F”. Between the Crouches, Hagees and Copelands…they must keep a decent chunk of the private jet and mansion industry in business – with their followers “tithes”. I’m all for Glenn and his staff doing well for themselves in the private sector as they are operating a *business* and do not call themselves pastors or a church…However, the Crouches, Hagees and Copelands *do* call themselves pastors and oversee a *church* not a business. Shepherds who live to fleece the flock God has entrusted to them and practice false teaching may get away with it for a time, but God will judge them in this life and the next if they do not repent. May God have mercy on them so that they *do* repent and bring their lives and ministries under the Lordship of Jesus Christ, who they currently claim to serve.
Report Post »In That Day
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:27amBitter clinger is right. Here’s a ditty on a “Ten-Trillionaire Televangelist”…
One day a televangelist appeared on the seen / He was handsome, charismatic, lean, not mean.
He said, Hello World! Give me you tithe! / He broadcast a wild show, it was quite a ride.
To 140 nations, his show was sent, / From 140 nations came tithes’ ten percent!
At that time the world’s income was one hundred trillion/ And, by gosh, he received 10,000 billion!
10,000 billion was his wonderful income, / Which was ten trillion, give or take a million!
As he had more cash than any known government, / Ambassadors from the US and China were sent.
Please help us, oh televangelist, they asked of him, / Would you buy us a carrier, or moon landing?
Our nations are broke! said ambassadors of the world, / Build us a freeway or tractor for field!
All the world’s excess cash has gone to you, / What oh great man of God, with it will you do?
But he said, Sorry to inform you, oh ambassadors, / I spent it all on myself, and perfume for whores.
Then he took off in his private starship rocket, / Proving none can stop such from lining their pocket.
See http://www.inthatdayteachings.com for cogent restoration of truth regarding political AND clerical tyranny, and how Nuero-Linguistic Programming by broadcast shepherds makes political tyranny.
Or google In That Day Teachings …. to learn how self-dealing kills freedom. Learn this, Glenn Beck! And note that Hagee promotes fear thru rapture idiocy
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:27ambitter.clinger: Although I know that this is not a very popular point of view back when I was very active in Church, I attended a church associated with the Copelands. I‘ve heard all of their doctrines in great detail and I can’t say that I have much of a problem with them. Are there cases of abuse in the ministry? Probably. With Hagee or Copeland? I can’t say. I’m not aware of it.
Growing up in a Baptist church I understand the great disdain that Baptist and the more Orthodox church has against the healing and prosperity message; however, having been a part of both for a number of years I’d have to say that the Copelands are far closer to the Scriptures than are the more Orthodox denominations. Furthermore I witnessed first hand the enthusiasm learning and growth in the non denom churches.. People actually read and studied their Bibles. In the more traditional Churches you probably can’t find 3% of the Congregation who have ever read the Bible cover to cover and most have not even read the NT that I’ve come across. They are some of the most undeducated ignorant people on this Earth. Good people nonetheless but ignorant and very judgemental from my experience.
Now Copeland did dissapoint me with his more recent very unscriptual support for the rogue state of Israel; however, I believe that the man and others associated with him are teachable.
Report Post »sambachico
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:49amPastor Murray is the only pastor on television that seems to have any true integrity, and reads straight from the bible. May God bless him. It’s amazing how easily money corrupts, even those who originally wanted to do the right thing. The Joel Osteens, TD Jakes, Health and Wealth televangelists seem like fraudsters, and you see all their books at target/walmart.
Report Post »I Stand With Israel
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 8:36pmWhile you’re praying for them, how about asking Jesus to forgive you for using his name in vain, and not showing Him respect by not capitalizing His name in the same sentence.
Report Post »omgfolks
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 9:10pmThis is one Butt Ugly Woman. Who taught her how to use makeup and do hair? Bozo the Clown?
Report Post »Cause4Liberty
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 1:27amPass The LOOT!!!!
Are you hiding in Plain sight, Mr. Beck? “Weaving spiders come not here.” Its not suprising considering the globalists whom you ‘rodeo clown’ for. Keep exploiting people of faith for your self-gain and success. If you dont change your ways, the same fate awaits you.
Report Post »dgl15c
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 12:26pmYou started off by using the Lords name in vain. Exodus 20:7 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.”
Report Post »dawg71
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:54pmMy brother was Technical Director at the Phoenix Affiltiate in the 90′s. Paul’s son, Matt came down to tape a few shows. He was a complete douchbag to the staff. Telling the cameraman at one point, “I’ll tell you where to put the camera, I after all own it.” He acted like a spoiled child the whole visit to the station.
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:25amThat attitude alone should tell us something. Something about that pink hair was a turn off, but my sister always supported her, so go figure. Those who flaunt their wealth, made off the viewers and believers cause me to have some suspicion. Go to a little church that preaches truth and live like we do.
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 11:29amThis gives meaning to the scripture: It’s easier to get a camel through the eye of a needle than a rich man. Wealth seems to make people love their money more than they love God. In my heart I don’t want to believe some of this stuff, but it’s becoming more apparent. So many are leaving the church because of these kind of things and it really makes my heart grieve. Love the Lord, Jesus, first of all.
Report Post »Colonialgirl
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 1:12pmDon’t forget to mention the big Gold rings and Rolex watches that were always much in evidence.
Report Post »The BIG bouffant hair-dos and glittery diamond rings and necklaces should have been a tip-off to any sane individual that it was a rip-off with little to do with the Bible.
Crazyotto
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 3:45pmThey are a disgrace and always have been.. just listen to them for 10 minutes … I did and they asked for money every 3 minutes…It figures that Sr. is in the closet.. these people do more harm to religion than atheists…
Report Post »Blinda
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:47pmThe prosperity gospel is no gospel at all.
I hope the allegations are not true. But even before I read this article, I thought the Crouch family at least gave off an appearance of being overly motivated by a love of money and not motivated enough by caring for those living in poverty (often mentioned by Jesus Christ as a main priority for His followers).
I will pray that God will change their hearts. And I would encourage all believers to give to their local church so they can be involved in how the money is spent – and to ministries that are part of the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability (ECFA), an organization that provides accreditation to leading Christian nonprofit organizations that faithfully demonstrate compliance with established standards for financial accountability, fundraising and board governance.
Report Post »Publius
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 9:59amTo me the prosperity ‘gospel’ is no different than the ‘gospel of social justice’
They are both predicated on a lie(evil) and play on human greed(evil)
Report Post »Texas.7
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 2:23pmI often accuse myself of being too suspicious, and fight the urge to judge others when I hear someone say something in the name of Christ that makes my skin crawl. My experience with “prosperity gospel” is quite limited. The few times I listened for a minute, it struck me that some preachers teach that you can demand from God certain material blessings, somehow claiming His promises. That is not of Christ. God will take care of your needs, and loves to bless us- but will not be taken captive by “believers”. That is witch craft. Spoiled children always think they deserve more. Selfishness is in opposition to Christ, who gave Himself for us.
The teaching that Jesus wants His flock to have wealth is a lie. Because wealth corrupts, Jesus may not wish this burden on many of us, for the safety of our souls. Every blessing is a gift great and small, and we are to grateful. “Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil”. I’m not saying that wealth is evil, nor am I suggesting that the wealthy are evil. I am saying that with wealth, you take on extra responsiblity.
In human form, Jesus also faced temptation. He allowed Himself to hunger, answering that listening to God is food for our soul (compare with Essau’s surrender of the blessing for a bowl of beans). Then, when Satan said He should jump to His death, letting the angels save Him- He said not to tempt God.
Report Post »Texas.7
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 2:45pmBut Satan didn’t know that it was for that purpose (giving His life for us- though His life is larger than death could contain) that Jesus came. Satan always seeks our soul, through temptations of flesh and the world. He teaches that we can coerce God, or oppose God’s will. (What does God know anyway?)
Satan then offered Jesus the kingdoms of the world, if He would just worship Satan. (This temptation will hit a home run with the anti-Christ.) But Jesus came to bring us, who were previously lost, into His Kingdom, which isn’t of this world. And in order to get there, one must worship God alone, through Christ. Worship of Satan (whatever his appearance), the things of the world, or self, will keep us from this kingdom. If our desire is Christ, He is faithful to satisfy our heart’s desire. If we desire the world, we may get that the things we desire also. The choice is ours. But remember, that when we lack extravagance in this world, it may be for the saving of our soul, lest in temptation, we fall.
Satan has always used the temptation of ill-gotten gains, fleshly desires and covetousness to draw many away from the Lord. Through prosperity gospel teachings, He takes our eyes off the prize- Christ alone and our heavenly place with Him. Through Social Justice, Satan teaches that some are owed what others have. Because “you deserve it”, you may take it. And with this message of destruction, many follow the pied piper off the cliff.
Report Post »dnewton
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:44pm2 Peter 2
1But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
Report Post »dnewton
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:40pm9But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
10For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
11But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.
Report Post »LLinLa
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 2:22pmVery well put!
Report Post »Texas.7
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 2:52pmperfect verses to address this discussion!
Report Post »sooner12
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:27pmIt saddens and disgusts me when I see such people acting, behaving and downright living contrary to the teachings of our Lord and Savior; especially when they take the money from people who are already hanging on by a thread, financially. These TV evangalists are nothing but emotional extortionists.
Report Post »Unc68
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:40pmThey need to find a copy of Jim Bakker’s book, “I Was Wrong”.
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 1:58pmI don’t think most of these people started out trying to deceive, but when money starts rolling in and they take more than their honest share (with excuses) pretty soon, here come the designer clothing, the pink wigs, expensive jewelry & watches and multiple homes which are, of course, necessary to keep the money they rake in to line their own pockets.
Meanwhile, over a period of time,, they believe, they are still working for God, while they squander money on material things instead of helping the poor and the widows & children in need.
The exception, I believe, is Pat Robertson. The 700 Club does more to help world wide than any other organization. I’m with you about Pat making some statements he should keep to himself, but he is a very sincere man and I truly believe he’s as honest as they come. Operation Hope is always the first on the scene of a disaster (anywhere in the world) helping people, and always the last to leave. But we never hear that on the news. It’s time we all turn to God; go to your local church who are teaching the WORD. Forget the feel good messages and get into the Word of God.
Report Post »candlewitness
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 10:53amGod Bless TBN! God Bless Paul and Jan Crouch. Their God Blessed ministry is sending the Good News of Jesus Christ all over the world. Into the Middle east. Into China. Into South America. Into Africa.For the first time Christians worldwide can listen to faith based messages that encourage, enlighten and ultimately transform believers into fully committed, on fire disciples of Jesus Christ. Many of the christians worldwide are being persecuted and dying. The ministries on TBN preach the “prosperity gospel” and strengthen believers for one more day. They pray with the ministries and are prayed for by anointed ministries that walk in power and might. The devil hates these ministries because he wants you to believe that God is not a God of great wealth. That God doesn’t want you to prosper. That God doesn’t want to heal you. That God can not protect you. These are lies that the world and luke-warm christians believe. If you buy the lie then those christians remain poor, sick, weak and attacked sometimes even unto death. Many “good” christians go home early because they don’t know the truth. Muslims are hearing the gospel and believing. Athiests are hearing the gospel and believing. TBN puts satalite dishes all over the world and can be watched 7 days a week and 24 hours a day. At 3;00 AM you can watch on tv, on your computer and glean knowledge and wisdom. It doesn’t cost a penny. Or else you can watch info-mercials and spend, spend, spend on things that edify yourselves
Report Post »JustPeachy
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:27pmGuess they were not a part of the EFCA, which was founded not long after the Baaker fiasco. Any organization not willing to be scrutinzed and transparent, especially when dealing with a lot of money–should be guarded cautiously. This is true no matter the “cause” of the organization–whether it be religious, humanitarian, or whatnot.
Organizations that go the way of PTL give the rest a black eye, too and hurt many honest ministries. This really makes me sad! But some people–even if they did start out right (and some do, some don’t) can’t handle power or money. Pride and greed get in the way. SIGH.
Well, if they’ve done what is claimed, I guess their “ride” has finally come to an end.
Report Post »dnewton
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:50pmYou are raising the bar so high, my city and county government would have problems hoisting themselves over it. The state legislature spends a lot of its time on camera but few can live long enough to see everything that goes on.
Report Post »unclebob
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 4:21pmThere can be no “honest” ministry when are are predicated on a false premise. I was indoctrinated as a child and it caused me years of grief until I started to think for myself.
I can’t believe people that will bless God for saving them from a storm, earthquake, fire, etc. yet not blame that same God for causing it in the fist place. Are we supposed to believe that God is illogical?
Report Post »Easier not to believe in God.
styxman65
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:25pmThese type of people make me sick and they give Christianity a black eye. You would think after what happened to the Bakers they would learn, I guess not………..It is also is what the elitist in the white house think about how they would live off of the tax payers money. “we deserve more because we take care of you”…… I.E. 25 secret service personnel in mexico to watch the president’s 13 year old daughter.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:55pmthats what I thought same as the whitehouse occupants. living it up on others money.
Report Post »undercover
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:19pmIf Christians would regularly attend and donate to a local house of worship this kind of nonsence would cease to exist.
Report Post »DEFCON4
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:46pm@ UNDERCOVER, as most take care of the truly needed. Instead of look where my money went !
Report Post »myway2112
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 5:42amI agree. Folks, no matter what they’re religious affiliation, need to get back ot the roots of they’re own Churches and leave all the Tele-evangelism behind. Take care of your local church and look out for your own bretheren. God will provide.
Report Post »BEAR0571
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:10pmIn my opinion only, religion was created by man to control men. God above had nothing to do with it. Look at the Vatican, the wealth and secrets they hold would blow our minds. And just like other fakes that use God’s name, they to will fall.
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 1:00amReligion is man-made, based on legalism and rituals and is based on works-righteous salvation.
Christianity is Truth, is based on the Grace of God through Jesus Christ, and salvation is based on what He did for us. Salvation cannot be earned.
Report Post »Dushman Kush
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 9:22pmReligion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful. (Seneca).
Report Post »NO_MORE_OBAMA
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:09pmDear Lord
Please help keep these investors and the evil police from taking everything we have stoled from the common people in the Church. They dont understand that we have special needs and we have wigs to buy. My make up person who has 5 kids and is on welfar, needs her minimum wage job. My dogs need to be bathed each week. You know they cant stay in our multi million dollar home. Yes I know the dog house cost $100 K … But you know we are good for it.
Jesus name … Amen
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:06pmOne just has to look at these two and know they live a lavish lifestyle…and probably pretty sinful…not trying to judge anyone…but seriously look at them…jan reminds me of tammy faye…wierd people…takes all kinds…would NOT seek spiritual advise from them that I do know.
Report Post »SoloPocono
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 8:29amI think that whatever that is on her head is ALIVE!!! Call PETA, she’s abusing some kind of critter, forcing it to suck her brains out!!! ZOMBIES??!!
Ok, cheap, childish shots…but what IS it about these women on these networks? Do they all have the same make-up/hair stylists and plastic surgeons??!! And some of the clothes she wears look like they came from the “Prostitutes-R-Us” catalogue!!
Report Post »I attended quite a few Southern Baptist Churches with my ex-husband and his family. I don‘t recall seeing ANY pastor’s wives done up like, or dressed ANYTHING like some of the wives of pastors I’ve seen on TBN. And of course there were Tami Faye’s outrageous make-up, hair and clothes choices. Do these networks and individual shows actually think this is attractive to Christian women viewers?
SPOT_OF_TEA
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:04pmThe only ones I donate to are Jack and Rexella Van Impe.
Report Post »waspanglosaxon
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:11pmNo need to send them anything. I‘m sure the Israeli government pays the Van Impe’s lavishly (nearly as much as their biggest shill, John Hagee).
Report Post »watchingandwaiting
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:13pmplease tell me you are joking
Report Post »DEFCON4
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 12:15am@Waspanglosaxon Why the despair with the Israeli Gov’t? Have they offended you? Shalom.
Report Post »waspanglosaxon
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 3:00amYes, the Israeli government has offended me…me and the Syrians, the Egyptians, the Saudis, The Iranians, the Iraqis, etc., etc. I resent Israel holding the US government captive, forcing US soldiers to fight endless battles for Israel; I resent Israel for existing upon stolen land and for forcing out the indigenous Palestinians from their rightful land; I resent Israel for her flimsy claim that a certain ethnicity had that land where they hadn’t lived for nearly 2000 years was supposedly given to them by God, and…well, you get the idea. Probably the worst thing, though, is that I resent Israel for encouraging the myth that any disagreement with or opposition to the Israeli government is somehow ‘anti-jewish’. If I oppose the government of, say, Red China, does that make me anti-Asian?
Report Post »Brooke Lorren
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 3:28amI like the Van Impes too. TBN censored them when they decided to out the preachers that support Chrislam, and they took their show off that channel because they wouldn’t stand up to it. I‘ve purchased a DVD or two before and don’t feel bad about it. They’re always giving out the gospel, and Jack is outspoken about sins that other people gloss over, including alcohol.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:01pmperhaps this would all go away with a charitable donation to the o superpac.
Report Post »TRONRADIO
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 10:58pmNot a fan of these people or their type. If they be guilty of law breaking; then off to the rock pile with them.
Report Post »Zuitsuit
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 10:55pmOnly 100,000 dollars for a mobile home for jan’s dogs? If i were those dogs i would be really pissed off.
Report Post »powedj
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 10:54pmI have long thought Paul and Jan Crouch to be phonies and charlatans. Just like Jim and Tammi Baker.
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:10pmMy mother is 85 years old and i have tried for years to tell her Paul and Jan AND everyone on TBN are crooks. I’ll show her this but im afraid it wont do any good
Report Post »SPOT_OF_TEA
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:40pmYes most of them are probably crooks but what about the words they preach from the bible to some people in the world who would otherwise not hear the word of God?Does their evilness destroy the message?All we can do is hold those accountable who break the law and expose those who act immorally.I can‘t speak for your mother but it wouldn’t surprise me if thats where she’s coming from…Its not about the messenger its about the message getting told whereever possible.
Report Post »waspanglosaxon
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 1:38amOf course it doesn’t destroy the message, but the fact is that these people are using the gospel to make obscene amounts of money for themselves. Any real religious crusader takes a vow of poverty (or near-poverty). These televangelists are sheer con-artists. The ridiculous aspect is how transparent they are (laughably so) and yet the puddin-brained ZOG public keeps sending in their SS checks for scamsters.
Report Post »TrailBlazer66
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 2:31pmDitto 4 me. Pretty obvious….
Report Post »KangarooJack
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 10:53pmI thought I had found a great Church. Then this woman,suddenly, stood up-spoke in tounges, and the pastor intrepreted that WE NEED $$. I love Church. I hold it every day. In my own house. Me and God-mostly God says I need to do more for others. He hasn’t asked me for any $$ though.
Report Post »waspanglosaxon
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 10:53pmGee, this is so unlike televangelists. lol
Report Post »Actually, I think the Crouches both look like aging porno stars. Then again, the imbeciles who send in their money to these snake-oil hucksters deserve to take it up the rear. Any way you slice it, this is the first good laugh I’ve had all day!
TheObamanation
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:24pmSounds like nancy pelosi lol
Report Post »Tandem2011
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 10:50pmTelevangelists, car dealers and class-action-lawsuit lawyers give Earthlings a bad reputation in our galaxy.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 1:38amIt’s OK… there is no intelligent life form, here!
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 10:46pmBut those who sin against the Holy Spirit…
Report Post »watchingandwaiting
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:06pmAgree. Using the name/word of God to amass wealth is the ultimate sin.
Report Post »Freedom Keeper
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 10:45pmShe sure does look weird. And dresses pretty immodestly for a televangelist
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 10:56pmI wonder how much she spent on her hair???
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:02pmJust think of her carbon footprint just on hairspray alone. Somewhere, a rainforest is crying.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 10:42pmMaybe they can be the new Spiritual Advise for Obama, they know how to lie, how to manipulate, and steal. Lets all get behind them, and forgive them, and of course, send them money for their defense fund. After all, anyone who is a TV preacher, well, how can they ever do wrong, dey just preachin the lorduh.
Report Post »APPAULED
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 12:52pmObama is much smarter than that. They are more in line with the current lot of Republicans who are also using fear and lies to gain the votes of the easily brainwashed. Everything that the Republican party does “In the name of God” is a farce. Their attack on the poor and their support of th1% show exactly who they are and they will pay the ultimate price when their time comes. They continue to support corpoate welfare while vowing to dismantle social programs for the poor and less fortunate. Using “God” to commit atrocities is a sin. How dare you compare these people to Obama. Glenn Beck is another sinner using God while lying to his viewers as to take in millions as hit sits back and laughs at the comments from his followers on this site. Eventually Glen will be exposed for what he is just as these people have been.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 10:39pmStrange timing… just as the Left is attacking Church Finances & Religion!
Report Post »APPAULED
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 12:53pmYes, even though the lawsuit was filed by family members. Lets blame that on Obama also, shall we? What ignorance.
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 10:38pmTo much is given much is required.
Report Post »I never bought into the “kings Kids” mentality.