Texas Skateboarder Swoops in to Stop Koran Burning
- Posted on September 13, 2010 at 12:47am by
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You have to hand it to Jacob Isom. You better hand it to him. If you don’t he might take it anyway! The 23-year-old Texas is getting plaudits across Amarillo for single-handedly stopping a Koran burning. David Grisham, of Repent Amarillo, probably never saw it coming.
Protesters threw their hands on the grill Grisham planned to use to burn the Quran, someone took his lighter and Isom stole the Quran, leaving him with just lighter fluid.
This led KFDA-TV to use the appropriate headline: Quran Not Burned in Amarillo City Park. Regardless of your preferred spelling of Islam’s sacred text, Isom has summed up his actions by describing what he told Grisham in that sudden rush of the moment:
“I snook up behind him and took his Quran. He said something about burning the Quran. I said ‘dude you have no Quran’ and ran off.”
WATCH:
Via Think Progress which notes:
As Amarillo Citizens Against Repent Amarillo’s Facebook page shows, Isom made sure the book made it into the safe hands of a smiling local Muslim leader.
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Comments (123)
Brian
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 7:35amI am flat out amazed at how Obama came out and said that they have the right to build a mosque
Report Post »on private property, and then bashes someone who wants to burn the Quran on their own property.
Either scenario is protected under the 1st amendment. Is it callous and offensive to build a mosque
that 68% of American oppose? yes, but it is legal and nobody can lawfully stop it.
Is it callous and offensive to burn the Quran? yes, but it is also legal, and nobody can lawfully stop
it. See, as we have grown up with, worked with, and learned with eachother for centuries, that age
old saying has been instilled into us, ” If you don’t have anything nice to say, then don’t say anything
at all”. That is not to undermine somebodies freedom of speech, but merely to help keep the peace
in suck a diverse and free country. There is a quote that I believe is the truest thing I have ever heard,
and I wish I knew who said it. “The funny thing about free speech, is that free speech guarantees that
somebody will be offended”. You cannot please everyone, but you can do what is morally right. If
you really want to burn the Quran, burn it! nobody can stop you, but don’t expect anyone to treat you
as if you have any dignity at all. If you want to build a mosque beside ground zero, do it, I cannot stop
you, but one day your insensitivity will come back to haunt you… and by the whole Quran burning
issue… it has only just begun.
moriarty70
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 8:57amYou know how he can support one and condem the other? Through the stated intent. One says their actions are designed to build long term relations with the community. The other states that it’s to show how evil a large group is because of the actions of the minority, and on top of that planned to do so in what I think is the most repugnent way possible.
And from my perspective, destroying a book is not an act of free speech, it’s the destruction of free speech by destroying the ideas and speech on those pages.
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 9:36am“And from my perspective, destroying a book is not an act of free speech, it’s the destruction of free speech by destroying the ideas and speech on those pages.”
Destroying the ideas and speech contained in the quran is an act of defiance against an insidious totalitarian ideology… In 1400 years, muslims have had violent and oppressive long term relations with the non-muslim world…
I think you need to look at this issue from the perspective of Christians burning in Pakistan, for instance… Think about what it feels like to be barbecued, your flesh bubbling and cracking from the searing heat of the flames growing below you… Now if you are that Christian Pakistani, wouldn’t you want somebody to end the idea of islam?
Report Post »moriarty70
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 9:56amI want to see an end to the use of Islam for hatred and anger, not the destruction of the belief all together. This can be done, I know this because other religions have moved beyond their violent and bloody associations. I truly believe that improving an idea will always be superior to destroying it outright.
And burning a book, any book, out of hatred is one of the few places I’m quite absolute in my beliefs. As Milton said:
“For books are not absolutely dead things, but… do preserve as in a vial the purest efficacy and extraction of that living intellect that bred them. I know they are as lively, and as vigorously productive, as those fabulous Dragon’s teeth; and being sown up and down, may chance to spring up armed men. And yet on the other hand unless warriors be used, as good almost kill a Man a good Book; who kills a man kills a reasonable creature, God’s image; but he who destroys a good book, kills Reason itself, kills the Image of God, as it were in the eye. Many a man lives a burden to the Earth; but a good Book is the precious life-blood of a master-spirit, embalmed and treasured up on purpose to a life beyond life.”
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 2:56pm“I want to see an end to the use of Islam for hatred and anger, not the destruction of the belief all together. This can be done, I know this because other religions have moved beyond their violent and bloody associations. I truly believe that improving an idea will always be superior to destroying it outright.”
What idea in islam do you like?
What would be left of the quran, hadiths and suras if you removed the hate for non-muslims?
islam is not like other religions… You better go learn something…
Once you know islam, you will understand that universalism is destroyed by islam… islam brings destruction…
Once you know what islam is, in real life, not even Commie Baha‘i will convince you to accept the moon god as a ’good’ partner for peace and harmony in this world…
“but he who destroys a good book, kills Reason itself, kills the Image of God”
You obviously have not actually read the quran in your entire life…
Report Post »conservativeme
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 7:34amWhile I do not approve of the Koran burnings, can you just imagine the outrage there would be if someone were to swoop in and grab a Bible that was about to be burned by in a muslim protest? They’d have lynched the guy!
Report Post »Debrabate
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 7:28amGood for the skateboarder..
other than that this whole “Islam is evil” junk… it is getting old.
Report Post »Endstatism
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 7:13amIf this was a Bible that was going to be burned, I seriously doubt that the same skateboarder would have appeared to snatch it from this group. Just as we had people in America who thought that we could get along with the USSR back in the Cold War days if we would only become less aggressive defending freedom, now we have the same types who think if we appease radical Islam, they will not attack us anymore. The ones who appear with the “Coexist” signs usually only want to coexist only with other like minded people and enemies.
Report Post »Down2TheC
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 6:56am23? He looks like a 40 yr old resident of Mom’s basement. Regardless, the proper term when swiping the book would be “Yoink!” Any good Simpsons fan could tell you that. (But “Dude, you have no Quran” comes a close second.)
Report Post »ironcowboy
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 7:25amI would guess 40 and stuck in 1975 based on the glasses… But yes, yoink is correct. However somone must say HA HA
Report Post »Lethality
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 6:49am“I snook up behind him” Enough said.
Report Post »texashayden
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 6:25amBurning a Koran, constitutional right!!!! I am strong Christian and could care less if somone burns the bible. I have also read much of the Koran and feel pity for those that follow it. It teaches the complete opposite of Christianity. You can argue with me if you do your research. Oh, freedom of speech. I exercise my right and say Islam is evil!
Report Post »lastmanstandin
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 9:17amhooray GOD tells us not worship any other god or thing the bible is a book not to be worshipped. Muslims worship the coran. Enough said.
Report Post »benrush
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 6:17amhttp://curmudgeonlyskeptical.blogspot.com/2010/08/three-moslem-truths.html
Report Post »DGroundhog
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 4:26amJacob Isom just committed a hate crime. He targeted this individual based on his religious beliefs and then proceeded to commit a crime against him.
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 9:22amYou just pointed out the obvious hypocrisy of any and all ‘hate crime’ laws…
Report Post »Bob Holland
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 4:06amWould it surprise anyone that the skater dude is left leaning. Only a leftist would protest that way by stealing someones property. Apparently he believes that he should have the freedom of speech and we can too, if he agrees with our speech.
Report Post »Dolt
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 3:47amjesus, put a shirt on dude.
Report Post »Diego Garcia
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 2:42am“The Qur’an itself is further testimony to taqiyya. Since God is believed to be the revealer of these verses, he is by default seen as the ultimate perpetrator of deceit—which is not surprising since he is described in the Qur’an as the best makar, that is, the best deceiver or schemer (e.g., 3:54, 8:30, 10:21).”
In Christianity who is the GREAT deceiver? Satan anyone?
Only a Mormon would get duped by a Moslem these days.
Report Post »CanadianForGod
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 2:58amThat is a shameful and uncalled for statement.
Diego Garcia
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 3:10amShameful? No, not at all. Caustic? Maybe.
Report Post »LDSPATRIOTFAM
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 3:11am“Only a Mormon would get duped by a Moslem these days.”
What is that supposed to mean?
Looks like you are duped by satan to cast a fellow man under the theological bus. Reminds me of that parable of the man who was robbed and left for dead on the road, and it was the priest who did not stop to help him. They have a “form of godliness but deny the power thereof”
Grow some charity.
Report Post »Diego Garcia
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 3:26amGood Samaritan…?
I don’t get the analogy.
Report Post »Diego Garcia
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 3:33amI respect Mormons for the family values, hard work, and basic decency they represent. I am puzzled that they continue to believe in the book of Mormon. In moments of disbelief one can look at their own Christianity and see nothing but a delusional judaic sect whose myths are no more real than Greek god myths are. LDS takes that and doubles down on that which feeds disbelief.
I think if you profess a faith you should be able to debate its relative merits w/o taking offense (though I may have been caustic about it and of course I was talking about Beck – which here is off topic).
Report Post »rocktruth
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 4:52amSatan can deceive anyone. You, Me, and even Glenn Beck.
We can not put our trust in a church or organization. We trust in God and His Word!
There is a way that seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death. Proverbs 14:12
There is only one thing to do:
Trust in the LORD with all your heart,
And lean not on your own understanding; Proverbs 3:5
Your word is a lamp to my feet
And a light to my path. Psalm 119:105
I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in Me should not abide in darkness.
John 12:46
and are confident that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness, Romans 2:19
The way of the wicked is like darkness; They do not know what makes them stumble.
Proverbs 4:1
For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. John 3:20
But all things that are exposed are made manifest by the light, for whatever makes manifest is light. Ephesians 5:13
Unto the upright there arises light in the darkness;He is gracious, and full of compassion, and righteous. Psalm 112:4
I will bring the blind by a way they did not know; I will lead them in paths they have not known. I will make darkness light before them, And crooked places straight. These things I will do for them, And not forsake them. Isaiah 42:16
Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.” John 8:12
Report Post »icesk8rgirl96
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 2:39amInteresting…..
Report Post »RWA
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 2:28amIf it was a person who snatched a US flag from keeping it from being burnt by some Muslim protester, you can bet the news outlets would say it was a racist Tea Party member denying that person’s right to free speech and should be prosecuted for a hate crime.
Report Post »icesk8rgirl96
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 2:23amGo skateboarder! Although I’m not a muslim, I don‘t believe in bashing another person’s religion, we must respect other peoples religion. Plus, burning a Koran? Seriously? Where does that get us?, it just hardens peoples hearts even more, it does no good. These terrorists, yes they are muslim, but they are muslim extremists, they take things in the Koran literally when they should not……these evil men need much prayer!
Report Post »sodizzy
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 3:57amI so agree with you, Ice Skater Girl!! Disrespecting someone’s holy book even though we hate it just shows disrespect. The person is the thing of value, and Jesus said to love them….but, then, too, how do we get to them? Love.
Love is the strongest force, does not fail. You said it well!!
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 9:26amWhy shouldn’t muslims take the quran literally?
Why be a muslim if you are ‘luke-warm’?
Do you even know what you are talking about?
Do you know what happens to ‘luke-warm’ muslims in muslim dominated countries?
Report Post »Gordon Pym
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 12:40pmI wonder what would happen if someone were to publically burn a copy of Rules For Radicals?
Report Post »Smith and Wesson 45ACP
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 2:02am“That makes Mohamed a PEDOPHILE!!!”
That says it all.
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 2:37amHistorical FREAKIN context man.
Observe it.
Report Post »henryclay
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 3:05amAre you saying it is ok to worship a pedophile STUPID Windfall???
Report Post »ironcowboy
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 7:11amOK I’ll put it in context. It used to be OK to Skrewww 9 year old wives; but this has presently fallen out of favor
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 9:19amWant context?
What did mohammad do to Aisha between the ages of 6-9?
Look up “Thighing” as pertains to islam…
Oh look, I did it for you…
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071221232108AAppsxu
“Thighing” is an Islamic practice still followed today even in Muslim communities in the U.S. and Britain:
Regarding the practice of “thighing”, the masterbating between the legs of a female infant or actually sodomizing her, Islamic clerics have this to say:
Pedophilia decrees from http://www.islamic-fatwa.net
Question 1809
After the permanent committee for the scientific research and fatwahs (religious decrees) reviewed the question forwarded by the grand scholar of the committee with reference number 1809 issued on 3/5/1453 and 7/5/1421 (Islamic calendar)
Question: ‘It has become widespread these days, and especially during weddings, the habit of mufa’khathat of the children. (mufa’khathat – literally translated, it means “placing between the thighs” which means placing the male member between the thighs of a child).
What is the opinion of scholars, knowing full well that the prophet, the peace of Allah be upon him, also practiced the “thighing” of Aisha – the mother of believers – may Allah be pleased with her ?
Answer: After studying the issue, the committee has answered as follows:
As for the prophet, his thighing his fiancée Aisha when she was six years of age and not able to consummate the relationship was due to her small age. That is why the Prophet used to place his male member between her thighs and massage it, as the prophet had control of his male member not like other men.
Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, The Supreme Leader of Iran, the Shia Grand Ayatollah, 1979-89 said in his official statements:
“A man can quench his sexual lusts with a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. Sodomizing the baby is halal (allowed by sharia). If the man penetrates and damages the child, then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however, does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister. It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and at her husband‘s house rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven.”
Khomeini, “Tahrirolvasyleh” fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990
“It is not illegal for an adult male to ‘thigh’ or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his penis between her thighs, and to kiss her.”
Ayatu Allah Al Khumaini’s “Tahrir Al wasila” p. 241, issue number 12
“Young boys or girls in full sexual effervescence are kept from getting married before they reach the legal age of majority. This is against the intention of divine laws. Why should the marriage of pubescent girls and boys be forbidden because they are still minors, when they are allowed to listen to the radio and to sexually arousing music?”
“The Little Green Book” “Sayings of the Ayatollah Khomeini”, Bantam Books
MUHAMMAD, THE PROPHET OF ISLAM
PART 1 MECCA
An Arab is regarded as an old man, a sheik, when he is fifty.
Muhammad married Aisha when she was six years old in Mecca and she joined him in Medina three years later when he was 53. He began having sex with Aisha when she was nine years old and still playing with dolls.
This is the original story told by the ONLY valid biographers of Muhammad and Islam, Ibn Ishaq and Tabari, and the hadiths of Bukhari and Muslim. Refer also to the works of the Qur’an commentators Ibn Kathir and Ibn Qayyim. (Ibn Kathir, The Life of the Prophet Muhammad (Al-Sira al-Nabawiyya), Volume II, translated by professor Trevor Le Gassick, Garnet Publishing Limited, UK. The Center for Muslim Contribution to Civilization, 2000. pp. 93-94)
(Ibn Qayyim Al-Juaziyyah, Zad-ul Ma’ad fi Hadyi Khairi-l ‘Ibad (Provisions for the Hereafter, From the Guidance of Allah’s Best Worshipper) translated by Jalal Abualrub, [Madinah Publishers & Distributors, December 2000] Volume I, pp. 157-158)
Muhammad said that he had dreamed of Aisha before demanding her from her father, and his own brother in Islam, Abu Bakr, claiming special ‘prophets rights’ when Abu Bakr was reluctant to give her to him.
Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 235: Narrated ‘Aisha: That the Prophet said to her, “You have been shown to me twice in my dreams. I saw you pictured on a piece of silk and someone said to me, ‘This is your wife.’ When I uncovered the picture, I saw that it was yours. I said, ‘If this is from Allah, it will be done.”
Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 18: Narrated ‘Ursa: The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for ‘Aisha’s hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said “But I am your brother!”
The Prophet said, “You are my brother in Allah’s religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry.”
Marriage to a female already offered to another was illegal in Arab law. Abu Bakr had already arranged for Aisha to marry Djubayr Mutim.
Muhammad married ‘A’isha in Mecca when she was a child of six and lived with her in Medina when she was nine or ten. She was the only virgin that he married. Her father, Abu Bakr, married her to him and the apostle gave her four hundred dirhams. (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasulullah (The Life of Muhammad) translated by Alfred Guillaume [Oxford University Press, p. 792)
Tabari VII:7 “The Prophet married Aisha in Mecca three years before the Hijrah, after the death of Khadija. At the time she was six.”
Tabari IX:128 “When the Prophet married Aisha, she was very young and not yet ready for consummation.” [The History of Al-Tabari: The Foundation of the Community] translated by M.V. McDonald annotated by W. Montgomery Watt [State University of New York Press, Albany 1987], Volume VII, pp. 6-7) (The History of Al-Tabari: The Last Years of the Prophet, translated and annotated by Ismail K. Poonawala [State University of New York Press, Albany 1990], Volume IX, pp. 129-130)
Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236: Narrated Hisham’s father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married ‘Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consummated that marriage when she was nine years old.
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How’s that for context?
Report Post »sarg356
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 9:21amYou got a Smith…. Good gun. I have a nice Kimber .45 Isn’t America great. Don’t mess with the US.
Report Post »Diego Garcia
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 1:55amA person born into or converted to Islam cannot leave it but on pain of death. This is the definitin of a cult. A cult that makes terroristic threats against its adherents should not receive an IRS tax exempt status.
Call your political representative to the the case for FREEDOM OF RELIGION. There is NO freedom of religion when you can’t leave your religion. Not this is a real physical death in this lifetime threat. Whether merely psychological or literral it hold freedom of conscience hostage.
Imagine if you were born moslem and from youth you were told you would be killed if you abandoned Islam, how well would that work on you? It might occur to you that you never wanted to leave Islam but that death threat very well worked its magic from the beginning of your brain washing.
Report Post »Diego Garcia
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 2:08amsorry for the typos. late night :)
give me edit webmaster.
Report Post »kralspaces
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 7:11amPresident Obama was born a Muslin through his father. He may or may not have practiced Islam. BUT, there could be a fear that influences his statements and position toward Muslims.
Report Post »Timothy1922
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 10:44amActually a cult is nothing more than a group of people with similar beliefs. Just think of football fans or political parties those are cults.
Report Post »rocktruth
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 1:55amIs the Qur’an Evil?
How about this?
When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly. Then grant them their freedom or take ransom from them, until War shall lay down her burdens. Qur’an 47:4
Or this?
Koran 5:33-34 The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom; Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that
What does Qur’an teach about Christians?
The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. Qur’an 98:1-8
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book(Christian’s), until they pay the Jiziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued. Qur’an 9:29
Should we promote this type of teaching in our country as a peaceful religion?
Did Jesus teach anything like this?
Report Post »becklies
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 7:53am“If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.” Deuteronomy 13:7-12
Report Post »wingedwolf
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 9:04amBecklies, with all due respect, the book from which you quote is in the Old Testament. Jesus wasn’t even born yet. Jesus did not say it. I believe the question was, “did Jesus teach anything like that?“ The answer is still ”no.” Jesus came here to turn the hearts of the world to love and to correct the way they were conducting themselves in the name of God, to take the sins of the world upon himself and die (the wages of sin is death) so that they might be saved from the sins of the Old Testament ways. That’s why they call him the Savior. What Jesus taught doesn’t begin until the New Testament, Gospel according to Matthew. Jesus never advocated violence, although he did lose his temper once with money changers outside the temple. He didn’t maim or kill them, however, he didn’t cut off their hands or heads or their feet, nor did he say that anyone else should do so. He said to forgive your neighbor seventy times seven and to turn the other cheek. Does any of that sound familiar to you? He wouldn’t allow himself to be defended with the sword even in the Garden of Gethsemane as they were coming to get him to kill him. He made his disciple “put up” his sword, saying, “he who lives by the sword, so shall he die.” Comes to all that beheading and cutting off of parts and such, I’m just sayin………
Report Post »moelarrycurly
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 10:02amWell…you beat me to it again wingedwolf…
Report Post »rocktruth
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 9:29pm@ beckles – I was asking if Jesus taught anything like that. And I didn’t say capital offense was evil. The United States still enforces capital offense punishment.
But in support of the Old Testament:
In Deuteronomy 13:7-12, worshiping idols was a very serious offense, therefore the punishment was also serious. Worshiping Idols was a major sin and would eventually destroy their nation so it was not tolerated. It’s also the primary commandment of God. “There shall be no other god’s before me.“ ”You shall Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind.”
But in the Qur’an, All you had to do to, is be a Jew or Christian, which is a serious offense to Muslims. This is hatred toward other people is not the same as breaking serious laws of sin.
So if you don‘t submit and join Muhammad’s Muslim cult, you should be sentence to death. They practiced forced conversion to Islam by fear and the sword. Hence your head being chopped off which is still being practiced today.
COMPARE 3 RELIGIOUS FAITHS:
1. Judaism – old Testament law
a. Do not worship any other god’s and love your God with all your heart, soul, and mind.
b. Worshiping other gods was a capital offense.
2. Christianity – We are not under law, but grace. The law came by Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus (Jn. 1:17).”
a. Do not worship any other god’s and love your God with all your heart, soul, and mind.
b. The wages of all sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life, in Christ Jesus. You have been saved by grace; it’s a gift of God not of works.
Jesus said to the women caught in adultery, GO! AND SIN NO MORE.
3. Islam – Islam means “Submission to Allah” (A currently supported teaching)
a. Everyone must submit to Allah and if they refuse, kill them, anywhere you find them.
b. Death for converting to Christianity is still practiced in Saudi Arabia and other countries who fundamentally believe in what the Qur’an says.
c. When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly. Then grant them their freedom or take ransom from them, until War shall lay down her burdens. Qur’an 47:4
Judeo-Christian beliefs are a serious threat to Muhammad’s teachings because it jeopardizes his legacy. Muhammad hated Jew‘s and Christian’s for not receiving his visions from Allah, the moon God. Christian and Jew‘s rejected worship of other God’s like Allah because it violates God’s primary commandment.
Muhammad‘s message was not accepted by Christian’s Or Jews because it was not found or supported by the bible.
Here are my thoughts and theory of what really happened: How Mohammad became a prophet and how he switch from believing in polytheism to preaching a message of one god(Allah the Moon God).
During the time of Muhammad, Pagan polytheism was very prominent in mecca. They believed in many pagan gods like the sun, moon, rain, and animals. It’s very possible, that Muhammad was looking for answers for his epilepsy. So he began looking up at night to their moon God (Allah) for answers.
Looking at the moon through clouds can cause lights to flicker and strobe. This effect from the blinking moon would trigger his epilepsy which caused many dream like visions. So Mohammad started worshiping the moon god and continued to look for new visions by staring at the moon asking Allah for answers. This flickering moon light would trigger more epileptic seizures and others would write down his visions and personal thoughts. Like there is only one god, and his name is Allah. As a result, they gave the moon significant credibility because it had power over his life. Mohammad wrote most of Qur’an after waking up from his dream states from elliptic seizures.
He begin preaching one god, the moon god Allah, because it affected his life in a powerful way. That was the short short version of what could of happened. Sorry for so little explanations and detail, I don’t have time to write a book.
READ MORE about Muhammad and his Temporal Lobe Epilepsy (TLE)
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Posted on September 13, 2010 at 1:32am‘ TAQIYYA ’
Do your own research about it if you don’t know what this means.
Islam IS EVIL. PERIOD.
Report Post »Islam strives for world domination. The Quran commands Muslims to exercise jihad. The Quran commands Muslims to establish shariah law. The Quran commands Muslims to impose Islam on the entire world.
Islam is merely not a religion, it is mainly a totalitarian ideology. Islam wants to dominate all aspects of life, from the cradle to the grave. Shariah law is a law that controls every detail of life in a Islamic society. From civic- and family law to criminal law. It determines how one should eat, dress and even use the toilet. Oppression of women is good, drinking alcohol is bad. The core of the Quran is the call to jihad. Jihad means a lot of things and is Arabic for battle. Islam means submission, there cannot be any mistake about its goal. Islam and freedom, Islam and democracy are not compatible. They are opposite values. Mohamed’s “wife” was six years old. That makes Mohamed a PEDOPHILE!!! And you want to base a “Religion” on this azz-holes rantings? Are you INSANE?
RealityCheck
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 1:54amWell put, It shocks me that people will praise a theft which prevents a man from (how ever foolish) doing something that he has every right to do under our constitution. I’m pretty sure our constitution does not support theft. Where are these people when our flag is being burned?
Report Post »AmericanPatriot01
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 1:58amwhy do you think they recruit from our prisons? its because a lot of the poeple that are in there would not be in prison if they were muslims under sharia law! I can only imagine the tag lines they might use to convince these freaks and outcasts that they would not be concidered criminals under sharia.
Makes me sick just to think about it
Report Post »Cryodawn
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 2:30amSir, take a moment and read the book before you denigrate it. The Quran like the Bible can be taken many ways. Most of which is taken “out of context” from its original meaning. Many of the teachings in both books can be used for bad as well as good. In truth, most people really don’t live their lives by what’s written in neither book. So before you go spouting off in some rant, preaching some false Ideologue; that you witnessed from the next zealot in front of you… Go figure, two books that are guides for “right” and “wrong” might have good things, and bad things in them. Take a moment, a read for yourself what is contended within and you will soon discover that many of the things you hear isn’t correct at all.
PS: Sharia Law, is halfway “based” upon the Quran. Just like the any major Christian church tells you what the bible means, and what you can and can’t do. Funny, because no two churches really agree on the bible. Hell, we can’t even use our on U.S. Constitution correctly. But Sharia Law is just some system set in stone, and you got it all figured out. Good luck with that ideology.
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 2:35amWHY DO PEOPLE HATE CARTER!?
Seriously, its getting annoying.
Report Post »henryclay
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 2:52amCryodawn I find it very offensive you openly and publicly bash my religions sacred book the Bible…To me it is equivalent to burning it…..So should your speech be silenced?
You do not see on the news day end and day out people murdering innocent people in the name of Jesus but you do for Allah….You also see woman stoned to death….No how is it so many jihadists whom blew themselves up And Islamic leaders backing them say the Koran promotes their cause??
Actions speak louder then words!! Islam is evil. Just look and see!!
Report Post »PostProgressiveAmerican
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 6:02am@CRYODAWN,
A few interesting things about the Koran:
The only official version is in Arabic, so any translation is always subject to claims of distortion;
The concept of ‘abrogation’ applies, so that the more peaceful passages that occur early (chronologically) are replaced by later, ‘more perfect’ passages which tend to be more violent;
The Koran’s chapters are sorted by length (not chronologically), which confuses the uninitiated.
In addition to the Koran, the Hadith (stories of the sayings and doings of the prophets) also applies, as does the Sunnah (the actions and sayings of Muhammad, the perfect human) as well as early interpretations of these texts, all of which are combined as a basis for Sharia Law. Sharia Law is about as ‘fixed in stone’ as it can get.
Report Post »ironcowboy
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 7:05am@VOC You nailed it… WAY TOO MANY Americans have NO CLUE how BIG and FAST this semi tractor truck is, that is coming at us, as they happily skateboard in the street
@ Post Progressive American… you are correct, most Imams will tell you that to truly be “Islamic” you must learn to read Farsi… you can not translate the words of Allah written by Mohammed into English as the words don’t have the same meaning when translated. You really do miss the complete flavor if Allah if you can’t read it in the native tongue.
@Cryodawn. I lived in the middle east for over a year and have read the Quran, and the Quran as written is to be interpreted in the following way per most Imams in foreign lands: If two Suras conflict, the one written by Mohammed more recently takes precedence. PROBLEM FOR AMERICA: Mohammed began Islam as a peaceful movement, peacefully converting people to Islam; BUT, ended in a MILITARY campaign forcibly converting people by any means necessary. The militaristic portion of Mohammed’s life and writings in the Quran became more violent over time, and so there is greater weight assigned to the more recent writings. This is why there is such a deep violent strain in the core “fundamentalist” Islam. This is mandated… it is how Mohammed told his followers to convert people to Islam, more recently than his peaceful writings. God continued to provide to Mohammed prophesy as his life progressed. Remember, you can’t be peaceful to the non believers, while cutting off the heads of non believers (at the same time), right? What is the correct way to go in dealing with non-believers? You cut off heads first, and be peaceful second. This is the way to go, because that is what Mohammed wrote about more recently generally speaking. This is not a new way to reconcile the verses of the Quran, it’s what Mohammed said his followers should do when in doubt, What God said more recently to Mohammed is what the follower MUST do if in doubt.
Report Post »Cryodawn
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 10:38am@Henry Clay, you can be offended if you wish, but there are many of the same aspects in the bible. I’m not bashing it at all, and I prefer the Bible over the Quran. However, the idea that no one uses the Bible is an evil way is absurd. We have many “Wars” under our belt too and just how many violent bible groups have / are there? A great many millions people have died in the name of, and for both books and God. People do wrong all the time “In the name of”…. God said “kill them all” is writen in both books. I just can’t do the, home team, we are /do right thing. I can’t place my head in the sand, nor can I myself cast a stone, nor should I. I can’t call them Evil, any more then I can call myself good. For my righteousness is as filthy rags.
@PostProgressiveAmerican: Go back and look how many views of Sharia Law there is. About as many views on the 10 Commandments, or the laws set forth by Moses. Interpretation is well… Just that; and there are many different views.
@Ironcowboy: Very well put. You seem to have a better understand of the “over all” principle of the Quran, if you had to sum it up, in as little as you just did. Whereas the Quran starts out peaceful, and becomes more violent, the opposite for the Bible is true. There are lots of stories of fighting and killing in the name of God, and then a peaceful message is given. It’s really amazing how many accounts of events are told from opposing views. Even the “End Days” tell the same story, just from a different viewpoint. Much like Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John all tell the same story, just from different viewpoints.
- Also, the word “pedophile” is being tossed around now as if no one understands a culture that some marriages were arranged at birth. Some marriages where arranged for peace treaties, and some to unite families or nations. Read the “Kama Sutra” that’s held in such high regards. You will find many references on how to pedophile in our views. But all most people know of it is a list of formed stances.
Report Post »henryclay
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 2:12pm@Cryodawn–why is ok for you to say negative things about the Bible in which I find offensive but it isn’t ok to burn a Koran and offend someone on other side of world? The difference is I’m not threatening to cut your head off…We have to stand for principle, FREEDOM..
Please name the current country that declares they kill for Jesus? Zero………Can the same be said for Islam currently?
Islam is evil as it forces one to submit to Allah or be labeled an infidel..what is done to infidels??? Killing someone for not being like you is evil no matter how you slice it….
Report Post »Cryodawn
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 7:05pm@HenryClay: First, let me clear something up for you; Stealing = Bad. Burning books = bad. I don’t condone any of the retarded things they are doing, but they have a right to currently do whatever they are doing by the Governments will; or Gods. You’re mistaking the freedom this government provides, and religion.
You keep going on and on like there isn’t or hasn’t been religious killing do to people claiming to be doing right by Christianity. So, let me name a few groups, people, and events to get the ball started. The Inquisition, The Ku Klux Klan, Hitler (Yes, listen to his speeches that got him into power, or read his book), St. Bartholomew’s Day massacre, the Sons of Freedom, the National Liberation Front of Tripura, the National Socialist Council of Nagaland (NSCN), The conflict in Northern Ireland, The Iron Guard and Lăncieri during the Bucharest pogrom, The Russian National Unity (who bombed a US Consulate, I might add), The Lord’s Resistance Army, The Army of God who attacked abortion clinics (and let’s not forget their hand in the Centennial Olympic Park bombing in 1996), the Christian Identity and Christian Patriot movements, the Lambs of Christ, the Concerned Christians, Hutaree in MI, the Aryan Nations, Aryan Republican Army, Phineas Priesthood, the Covenant, the Sword, the Arm of the Lord, or even the 2002 Soweto bombings. An argument could even be made for the dealings of the US Government in Arabic countries, seeing as we are a Christian Nation and all. Or, maybe we could go into the establishment of Israel which does to seem to be a sore point for a few people.….. but I digress; shall I continue or is it sufficed to say that there are people that use God & Jesus to carry out their sinful deeds. Saying “Islam is evil as it forces one to submit to Allah or be labeled an infidel”, is like saying if you don’t believe in God then you are a sinner and should be burned at the stake, or stoned, or crucified. Wait a minute…I’m having déjà vu…
Now, can you name me an Islamic country that’s… How did you word it, “Please name the current country that declares they kill for Muhammad?” Zero? I was under the impression we were fighting Islamic terrorist? Some of which seized power in a country, kind of like progressives and socialists, but again I digress. lol
PS: You’re correct, killing someone for not being like you is evil no matter how you slice it…. Like maybe hanging some blacks from a burning cross or something…. Maybe in Mississippi?
Report Post »Beetle1971
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 1:30amAs a fellow skateboader I would like to thank Jacob Isom for giving skateboarders a good name for once, and for stopping stupidity in action. Theft or not good fricken job!
Report Post »BlueStarMom
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 5:16amHe did skaters proud but as the face (and chest) of skateboarding his leaves a lot to be desired. Not to mention the Three Stooges hair. Maybe he moved to Texas from Venice Beach :)
Report Post »ironcowboy
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 6:30amWhere was your skateboarder on 9-11-01 to stop an act of stupitidy?
Report Post »Bob Swanson
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 3:58pmYou must be seven years old.
Report Post »norway1516
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 1:22amyea im not big on the muslim faith but I dont think burning their sacred book is the right thing to do and I guess if it was a bible I might have done the same thing as this seemed to be man/boy?
Report Post »WISEPENNY
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 1:22amThose headlines should read: INFIDEL SAVES KORAN….yawn.
Report Post »rocktruth
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 1:30amlol
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 8:39amSKATEBOARDER SUPPORTS OWN BEHEADING…
Skateboarder supports sexual slavery
Skateboarder supports child marriage
Skateboarder supports Arab supremacy
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I could go on… But I’m sure we all get the point…
Report Post »Grandma-Revere
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 1:19amIt’s a bird… It’s a plane… It’s a skateboarder….?? Dude… you
Report Post »‘da man!
Bob Swanson
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 3:56pmAre you nine years old?
Report Post »glasshalo2
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 1:03amI’m not sure what this individual stands for outside of stopping an intolerant act, but I commend him for stopping the burning of the book. It is really shameful that a day of remembrance is turning into a day of political and religious statements. I cried yesterday for the first time on a September 11th since the 2001 attacks. I was overwhelmed with God’s blessings, family, luck, the tragedy itself, and the state our country is in today: politically, religiously, economically, etc. All of these divisive issues should not come to a head on the anniversaries of 9/11, but should subside. So I say good for you, Mr. Isom, for stopping the burning of that book.
Report Post »henryclay
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 2:29amWhat one generation tolerates the next embraces…
This promotes theft and bashing of a The First Amendment….The next generation will embrace this…. Sad anyway you look at it!!!
Report Post »ironcowboy
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 5:51amAsk 3500 people from New York if they support burning books or burning humans. I guessed you missed the memo that a whole wing of ONE particular religion wants to burn you alive, and it aint the Southern Baptists brother, they might douse you with holly water and baptize you however.
Is it just me, or has everyone forgotten the person who put the crucifix into a toilet and called it art, and free speech and defended that and it was put on display in a New York city art gallary… But how dare you desecrate a book that our enemy uses as spiritual fuel to empower them to burn your flesh from your bones.
I can only hope they get a nuclear weapon and vaporize New York; MAYBE, then MAYBE you might start to realize the problem we face… MAYBE. 1/3 of the worlds population HATES YOU AND WANTS YOU TO DIE>>>NOW!
I saved a grizzly bear because I loved it; then, it ate me? But I saved it life!
Report Post »ironcowboy
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 6:25am“It is really shameful that a day of remembrance is turning into a day of political and religious statements.”
I remember that on 9-11-01, 19 ISLAMIC MEN MADE A POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS STATEMENT THAT THEY DO NOT TOLERATE CHRISTIANITY AND WESTERN VALUES AND WANT AS MANY PEOPLE IN THE LAND OF GREAT SATAN TO DIE!
For this they have reached paradise!
Remember that and weap!
Report Post »thunder4570
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 7:52amI guess if they are making this guy out to be a hero by violating the man rights, I wonder what they would call some one who did some thing to stop the victory monument at Ground Zero?
Report Post »RealityCheck
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 12:57amI hate to say it because I don’t condone burning things to make a point but, isn’t that theft? possibly being robbed? Just saying.
Report Post »RojBlake
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 1:12amI would have to agree, if the “burner in question” actually owned the book then he could press charges.
This is rapidly getting out-of-hand & very very stupid!
Why didn’t we have any of this crap under Bush?
Report Post »Ellie
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 1:14amYeppers, absolutely that was theft. Nowhere in the rule of law does it say thou shalt not steal, unless it is to prevent a moron from making a political statement.
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 2:34am… Somebodies in denial.
Report Post »TeaPartyTim
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 2:57amDoesn’t it also violate his right to freedom of speech too?
Report Post »PostProgressiveAmerican
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 3:38amThere is a difference between ‘legal’ and ‘right.’ If more people would do the right thing, we would be better off.
Report Post »Kerrvillian
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 6:22amIf the Koran was the property of the person about to burn it then it was theft.
It was, more importantly, an act designed to prevent the free exercise of the burner’s First Amendment right. If the skateboarders were there with a plan to stop the burning then they are guilty of conspiracy to prevent the free exercise of the First Amendment rights.
The theft is but a misdemeanor but if we were to have a truly color blind Justice Dept. then the Consipiracy charge would be major federal time.
Yes. The guy there to burn things shouldn’t do it. It’s stupid. But it was his right. Taking action to stop him, rather than persuading him without physically interferring, is a violation of his rights.
It would be the same as anyone physically preventing the GZM from being built. If you stole their their construction materials it would be an equivalent action, from the standpoint of their rights.
Report Post »JesusFreak95
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 7:16amHe did no one “proud”. He stole someone elses property, and stopped him from excecising his Constitutional rights. I don’t agree with the man burning the Q book, but I will defend his right to do so. Other American’s DO NOT have the right to physically stop him. They can speak out, protest, etc. But that does not give anyone the right to trespass on someone Else’s property or take what does not belong to them.
Report Post »becklies
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 7:46am@rojblake: Here‘s an article that does a great job of explaining why we didn’t have this under Bush.
I appologize in advance for the ad you may have ot click though:
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joe_conason/2010/09/12/islamo/index.html
To sumarize, it basicaly says that hatred towards Islam wasn‘t to the GOP’s political advantage, but now that they are not in power, the typical conservative playbook of paranoia and fear can be used to manipulate people and get them elected again.
Also, from the article, is “Snook” actually a word? :)
Report Post »Thirteenth Paladin
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 7:56amCriminal violation for Theft and Civil Rights violation for denial of Freedom of Speech all in one action. I wonder where Eric Holder would stand on this? Move along. Nothing to see here. SSDD.
Report Post »oceandove
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 8:26amI agree with another poster. This is theft and I feel that this article is positive to the thief. Sad to read, actually.
Report Post »TomBurpee
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 8:40am@BECKLIES
Saul Alinsky wasn’t a GOP member. Sorry to break it to you, but you’re wrong. The article is a crock, and I’m very disappointed that you would link to such a biased source when TheBlaze is right here to spread the truth. Tisk Tisk. Mr.Soros didn’t pick you well did he?
Report Post »becklies
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 9:03am@Tom Oh, os “biased” is anything you don’t agree with, but the left are the ones with closed minds? Got it. Also, I never mentioned Saul Alinsky, but nice feint, Dave Koch must be proud of you!
Report Post »RojBlake
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 10:16amBeckles,
Sorry, but the article you directed me to doesn’t make sense…in the first place what anti-muslim information does Foxnews spread?
It’s an easy thing to say, but virtually impossible to prove. The increased number of attepts may have something to do with it though.
Obamas insensitivity to the citizens he purports to represent may also have something to do with it as well…remember the speech dealing with Fort Hood the first 5-10 minutes he spent doing “shout-outs” & policy crap, I honestly thought he hadn’t been told. How about the Airforce One induced NYC panic, etc.
Report Post »El Paco
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 10:18amWould you also therefore say that if someone was about to burn the American Flag, and someone took it away from them, would it also be theft??
/hat tip Rick Monday.
Report Post »RojBlake
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 10:33amEl Paco,
Report Post »Yes I would consider that theft.
ajt
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 10:35amBurn NO… Steal YES…
So…
Some people think that stealing the private property of an “individual” is a societal “good” but that same “individual” making a public square statement by burning his own private property to make an informed… thoughtful… honorable… public statement is somehow a societal “bad” and MUST be prevented.
Hmmm. Some do-gooders in Dar al-harb (… “House (Realm) of War”: territory ruled by non-Muslims… i.e. people still FREE to SPEAK… and DO) are simply confused… and just don’t get it.
What is the hate and violence filled private property OWNED by the “individual” making the public square statement against the “collective” Dar al-Islam (… “House (Realm) of Islam”; Islamic territory ruled by Sharia law) ummah (… the global Muslim community; the body of Muslim faithful.)?
Simply bound pages of paper with the name “Qur’an” printed on the cover that contains at least 164 jihad verses with WORDS that are INTENDED to incite hate and violence in the ummah of Dar al-Islam against the ummah of Dar al-harb.
See the 164 jihad verses here…
>> http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Themes/jihad_passages.html
So, what’s next as America is dhimmified (… Dhimma: the pact of protection extended to non-slave “People of the Book”, usually Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians, which permitted them to remain nominally free under Muslim rule.) into submission (… Islam: “submission” or “surrender”).
What’s next is paying the jizya (… the poll or head tax prescribed by Sura 9:29 of the Quran to be paid by Christians and Jews in Muslim-held territory).
Nope… not for me. How about you?
The enemy, political and religious, is at the gates, and intends to “transform” America and the U.S. Constitution law with shari’a (… Islamic law).
So, in our Dar al-harb FREE society, sometimes the solution to the ignorance of the non-Muslim ummah about the INTENT… of the WORDS… simply PRINTED… on PAPER… requires the public square statement of burning the WORDS of hate and violence BEFORE you are coerced to take the dhimmi stance of “submission”… bowed head – bent back – words of humility- to show you are subdued.
Just sayin’ my piece in the public square… ’cause I still can.
How about you?
What should a FREE American do… with the approval of the ummah of Dar al-harb?
Should a FREE American STEAL (… with the approval of the “collective” ummah) private property of an “individual” to make a public statement?
Or,
Should a FREE American simply BURN private property to make a public statement against the WORDS of hate and violence printed on PAPER?
You are still FREE to decide…
Art
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SoldierOfTheApocalypse
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 10:38amLook at this clown he’s obviously a bum and just hopes that Obama will declare him a hero and throw him a state dinner.
Report Post »klstj
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 2:40pmIt’s so double edged, this guys a hero, the preachers a wacky, the atheist guy that smoked both bible and Koran pages gets fired and video pulled from you tube. This is why we are a nation of laws. I t’s one way to stop arguments like this. Simple, its legal to burn a book, its legal to build a mosque, its not legal to steal personal property and its not legal to prevent ones freedom of speech. When people start talking right and wrong…you bet, people should use common sense. This thing has gone way to far…I wish people would actually apply The golden rule!
Report Post »klstj
Posted on September 13, 2010 at 2:40pmIt’s so double edged, this guys a hero, the preachers a wacky, the atheist guy that smoked both bible and Koran pages gets fired and video pulled from you tube. This is why we are a nation of laws. I t’s one way to stop arguments like this. Simple, its legal to burn a book, its legal to build a mosque, its not legal to steal personal property and its not legal to prevent ones freedom of speech. When people start talking right and wrong…you bet, people should use common sense. This thing has gone way to far…I wish people would actually apply The golden rule!
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