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Thanks, But No Thanks: Tea Party Mayor Rejects Fed Grant

Thanks, but no Thanks: Tea Party Mayor Rejects Fed GrantMayor Janice L. Daniels

Not everyone is addicted to the idea of “free” government money. Believe it or not, there are still some people out there who think there is no such thing as “free” when it comes to government handouts.

At least, that’s the message that was sent when City Council members in Troy, MI, voted to reject a federal grant worth millions of dollars.

“Troy — a northern suburb of Detroit — was in line to receive an $8.5 million grant from the federal government in order to finance a transportation center that would be part of the Detroit to Chicago Amtrak network [emphasis added],” The Heritage Foundation’s Mike Brownfield reports.

“The trouble is, though the money would have helped finance a brand new development, officials say it would create an ongoing financial liability for the cash-strapped city. In other words, it might have gotten the cow for free, but it would be stuck paying the cost of upkeep years down the road,” adds.

And although the New York Times believes the vote was motivated by “anti-Washington sentiment,” others think the vote was driven by sound fiscal policy.

True, the annual maintenance cost would have only been $31,000 – not that big of a problem for a city operating on a $50 million budget.

“But for taxpayers who are being nickled-and-dimed to death, even pocket change can add up to real money — especially when government projects see their costs keep going up and up,” Brownfield writes.

Therefore, at the urging of the mayor, who also helped found Troy’s Tea Party chapter, the City Council voted 4-to-3 against granting a “crucial contract.”

“There’s nothing free about government money,” Mayor Janice Daniels said in an interview. “It’s never free, and it’s crippling our way of life.”

She’s not the first person to turn down federal funds that would have gone towards transportation; Governors Scott Walker (R-WI) and Chris Christie (R-NJ) have done the exact same thing.

“In 2010, Governor Chris Christie canceled a rail tunnel under the Hudson River connecting New Jersey to New York,” Brownfield writes. “His concern? The cost of the project was feared to be $14 billion, and there were no guarantees that New Jersey taxpayers would not pay more than $2.7 billion for the completed project.”

Thanks, but no Thanks: Tea Party Mayor Rejects Fed GrantSimilarly, Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin turned down an $810 million federal grant that would have extended passenger rail from Milwaukee to Madison.

Taking it one step further than both Christie and Walker, Mayor Daniels turned down the grant because she believes it’s fiscally unsound and because she doesn’t think the feds are in any position to be handing out money.

“The federal government’s largess is no reason to build the transit center when the national debt stands at $15 trillion,” Mayor Daniels said.

However, the New York Times points out that if the grant doesn’t go to Troy, it will just go to another project, making her gesture rather useless.

But perhaps the Times misses the point. Much like Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) returning $500,000 to the Treasury, it’s not about making a one-time dent in the national debt. It’s about creating a culture where taxpayer money isn’t handed out and consumed like Halloween candy.

Unsurprisingly, and without missing a beat, the city’s 4-3 vote has been met with fierce and vocal criticism. Michele Hodges, the president of the Troy Chamber of Commerce, which supports the transit project, said that her organization “will be a pit bull for what’s best for this community.”

David A. Kotwicki, a local lawyer the Times managed to dig up, pointed at Republicans who “might talk tough on spending,” but that they “still bring projects home to their districts.” The city’s vote, he says, looks like “cutting off your nose to spite your face.”

Thanks, but no Thanks: Tea Party Mayor Rejects Fed GrantTroy train stop (Photo Courtesy: Stephen McGee for The New York Times)

Michigan governor Rick Snyder, a Republican, said that he was “disappointed” by the city’s decision and would be “reviewing our options for utilizing the grant, including the potential transfer of the grant to another applicant.”

Prior to the vote, Gov. Snyder sent a letter to Mayor Daniels saying that the federally financed project would have “significant, positive economic development on your community and the state,” according to the Times.

Mayor Daniels disregarded Gov. Snyder’s advice and said the vote was about setting an example concerning the national debt.

“I want to leave a legacy for our children of managing our responsibilities — not crushing them with debt money,” Daniels said.

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  • voodoolife
    Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:37am

    What is the Fed’s obsession with trains? I can understand ‘some’ places where they work ‘decent’, but for the most part they are money pits…

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    • TXPilot
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:44am

      All that “free” government money will cost you, is your soul……bwwhhhhaa hhaaa hhaaa.!!……seriously, sign here in blood please.

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    • midwesthippie
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:53am

      …just need a few thousand more like her…

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    • Jeff1000
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:07am

      Trains are part of the perfect little uptopian society where everyone is equal like drones in a bee hive. Just think about it, it will be beautiful: fewer cars where people will be able to express their individuality, and everyone will buzz around on trains serving the king and the queen. It will be beautiful, a society of worker bees, all alike, looking alike, thinking alike, buzzing around the country on trains. It‘s so beautiful I think I’m gonna cry. Sniff sniff.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 8:21am

      A saying that I often heard during my first tour in Germany about 25 years ago. Hitler made the trains run on time. The dems are still jealous and trying to catch up.

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    • Dr Vel
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 8:30am

      Maybe the feds needs trains for the same reason Hitler did. Numbers being the only difference.

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    • The Jewish Avenger
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:34am

      First thought answers:

      Unions and pensions…

      After that, no idea… well there is the free transportation for our welfare folk… and…

      Conspiracy Theory: Less Planes more air control? More drones to fly without incident? Makes hair grow longer so less heat needed at home?, less noticeable fuel and CO(2?) global climate whatever they call it now, temperature trend? Who knows…

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    • NancyBee
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:56am

      Jeff…you are right on….trains are part of that agenda 21

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    • Divothead
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:15pm

      VOODOOLIFE-

      The fed obsession with trains comes from their devotion to U.N. Agenda 21 which is designed to move people into high rise urban dwelling zones where they can move from one controlled point to another using government operated mass transit.

      The goal is to eventually eliminate personally owned transportation and rural living.

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    • Divothead
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:18pm

      This website is the worst one on the web when it comes to being able to follow a conversation or track a reply.

      BECK — do something with this mess!

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    • Mateytwo Barreett
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:02pm

      Why not be fascinated with rails. They have been ignored, abused and neglected. with a resergence of interest, you would gain infrastrucure of dubious value. But the jobs! The surveys,
      EPA studies, the engineering, the construction, and cost over runs. Imagine a focal point of social, and commerce in the center of all the little towns surrounding the cities. Why we could have daily delivery of mail, food products. It would be just like urban renewal without having to dream up some worthless agenda. And if the town center survives and thrives. . . Uh, oh! nevermind!!

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  • unsafe
    Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:11am

    @SGTB-
    Do you work for an employer? If you do, you surely know that Social Security is an involuntary tax that the employee and the employer must pay. You are stuck paying it. No choice. That makes it not an entitlement. It makes it a pension plan I and my employers paid into. It isn’t government money. I have been paying into Social Security since 1960. I have been paying into Medicare since 1972 which is another forced tax I resent paying.

    What really sucks about Social Secuity, is that the government couldn’t keep their hands off of it. Since they keep draining the Social Security pool for any reason, our politicians on both sides scare old people with the threat of losing Social Security. The ones who get scared are those that grew up in the Depression and/or have no other savings or pensions to supplement retirement income.

    I personally have never liked Social Security even tryed to op-out/
    Frankly, I am getting tired of people calling Social Security an entitlement. It is not. It is not welfare, unemployment insurance or any other Government give away. It is a forced tax paid.

    Shake the crap out of your brain bucket. We are just as much a victim of the government as you are.

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    • NancyBee
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:55am

      I agree……social security is not an entitlement…not for the one’s who have paid into it all these years

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    • selloursouls
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:33pm

      I disagree that SS isn’t an entitlement. When I pay taxes I don’t expect to get a check in return. In fact I expect my money to be wasted. You feel you are entitled to the money that you were forced to pay into for 50 years, because the government said that is what would happen. Your first mistake was believing the government would keep its word. However, instead of trying to change the system 40 years ago those receiving SS and Medicare now let the system continue even though there were signs the government was cheating the system. In the beginning when the government was dancing around whether SS was a tax or an insurance policy the BS flag should have been thrown, but too many people expected the government to take care of them. When you say that because you paid into the Ponzi scheme you deserve or are entitled to a check because the government said you would get one proves it is an entitlement. I don’t feel entitled to a check because I know it is a tax and not a pension plan.

      Of course you are forced to pay the tax how else can the government force people to be dependent on the system. Conservative seniors, just accept you are dependent on the government. Of all the people who should be trying to stop SS and Medicare it should be you. You know how the system has failed and has been hijacked by government. Help the future generations escape the trap you fell into.

      No one will mess with SS or medicare because seniors won’t let them.

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    • Rowgue
      Posted on March 2, 2012 at 12:49pm

      People don’t pay into SS anywhere near what they get out of it. The system was designed when the average life expectancy of a person was 60 years. In other words it was designed as a scam. They were telling people their retirements were going to be secure knowing that they‘d be dead very near the point where they’d start collecting it anyway. Everyone was dead either shortly before or shortly after the point of retirement. Nobody would ever collect on what they had put into the system.

      But now life expectancy is over 80. People are retiring in their fifties and drawing on SS for twenty or thirty years on a regular basis. The system doesn’t work like that. It doesn’t magically multiply the money that you put into it. It’s ability to exist relies on the fact that it was designed to be a very very short term benefit. People now are drawing far more out of SS than they ever put in, commonly triple what they put in or more.

      You can call it a pension program if you like, but it’s still a scam, it’s still unsustainable, and it’s still an entitlement. By the way most pension programs are designed on the same model as the SS system. They are also unsustainable scams. So comparing it to a pension program doesn’t exactly paint it in a favorable light.

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  • Eyeball
    Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:03am

    I admire the mayor and city officials that stood up against the federal spending addiction. Those officials who wanted the money money money are greedy greedy greedy. They ignore their common sense to satisfy their spending greed. Those who wanted to accept the money should be voted out as soon as possible.

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    • chubby
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:29pm

      What has happened is that folks are yes extremely greedy. They’ve bought into the line, “…if we don’t take it someone else will…” so what? If you have no thought for this country then go ahead and stand in line for all the hand-outs you can.
      This is one gutsy lady and I wish we had more of them in positions like hers. If we did this country might not be in the straights it’s currently in and on the road down a truly pig grease slope.

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    • woodypynes
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:37pm

      I agree. What a very interesting article…..I just printed it out and will be reading it to our town’s Commissioners at the next meeting. The BS spending I witness (in a VERY small town like this) is absolutely overwhelming. The mayor just won re-election last Nov. on the platform “for every $1.00 in tax money we pay, we get back $1.26″. He advertised it in local papers and said it at every election-oriented function (and every time I spoke with him, he said the same thing)….and yet, this supposedly conservative town voted him back in again. I can’t wait.

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  • guido.cavalcanti
    Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:41am

    She didn’t get the memo? The Tea Party doesn’t really care about small govt. or govt waste, look at who they support. Poor mayor, she could have used that money to peddle influence in her city and win and secure a reelection bid, fiscal conservatism was so yesterday.

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  • Pontiac
    Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:34am

    @Independentcrusader
    Reported for spamming.

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  • SgtB
    Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:32am

    Hey dumb@55, it isn’t the “1%” that you need to be worrying about. Rather, you should worry about the gov’t rats that thought they could claim ownership of your productive efforts through the implementation of a national income tax. In case you forgot or never knew, when a person holds a higher claim to your productive effort than you do, you are a slave.

    Lastly, I‘m more concerned with the older generation whose minds are still so warped than they cannot understand that their congressmen and women have saddled their children and grandchildren with the yoke of slavery under the Ponzi scheme of social security and gov’t debt. Any time the gov’t takes on debt, it is backed by the full faith and credit of the people. In other words, one generation gets cash and the next gets stuck with the bill. While paying for a defensive war might warrant such indebtedness, welfare and bureaucratic spending does not.

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  • beekeeper
    Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:12am

    Unless this ‘free’ project can be guaranteed to generate the $31,000 annual upkeep revenues for the city that will be stuck with the maintenance of the facility (and the occasional big-ticket repair bill, like replacing a roof, etc), their decision makes perfect sense to me.

    If the city can’t find a comparable source of revenue equal to the obligations it will be taking on, the city will have to decide which service(s) it will trim to free up the $31K/yr.

    Or is the city to raise taxes to pay to support this free gift?

    It’s like getting a gift subscription to the Fruit of the Zmonth club, but every month the fruit arrives postage due. That’s some gift!

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 8:33am

      BEEKEEPER, You make a great point, but I will bet that $31,000 maintenance cost is a very low estimate. I can easily see cost overruns, the price of materials to increase, and worst of all, the invasive, pervasive, and ever expanding cost demanded by the unions who will be there from the very start of the ‘maintenance.’ Within a couple of years I can easily predict those costs to triple if not quadruple.

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    • POdVet
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:55pm

      You are definitely right on the under estimation of the maintenance cost. It may have been able to cost that if all the work was to be done by volunteers, but we all know there was no chance of that. It would have been a dozen or more Union employees getting minimum of $50k plus benefits a yr.

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  • OklahomaBound
    Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:45pm

    The money was no doubt meant to go to union labor to build the project and of course transit systems are always union and financial boondoggles that subsidize the cost of ridership for the city-dwelling leftist leaches that ride these trains/subways and buses at taxpayer expense.

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    • Nehemiah6.3
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:23am

      This action should be applauded by all. My small town seems to be bent on applying for every grant they can get. They say, “its just free money”. That is precisely the reason the world and our country is in the mess its in.We go to all the town meetings to stop their mindless spending. Next election, i think they will all be looking for a new job with someone else who wants to go bankrupt.

      Obamanomics just will not work ever. It will lead to the collapse of our country.

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    • 2theADDLED
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:32am

      The money should be rerouted to our borders as a number one priority.

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  • banjarmon
    Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:41pm

    the yellow sign says it all…..ROAD ENDS!!!!!

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  • possom
    Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:38pm

    We’ve got new high speed rail in IL that nobody wanted, and another bridge to St. Louis even thou we already have 6 and they’ll probably never be finished. Not to mention a 4 million dollar movie theatre when the three other’s closed for “lack of business”. But what the hey it’s only money right!

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    • oldguy49
      Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:54pm

      and if you like socker………..you could always go to cuba and watch the terrost detainees play on a new $750,0000 socker field the gov wants them to have

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    • 2theADDLED
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:31am

      @ oldguy49
      That soccer field might be nice when we have to escape to somewhere.

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  • Boycott the Media Let the People Decide
    Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:29pm

    Now only if Santorum, Gingrich, and Romney would get some cajones and develop these same principals our country might be able to be saved…..

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    • db321
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:11am

      We have to Win the election first – 8.5 million could not get this Mayor to sell out – Good for her. So many Americans are selling out God, Country, and Eternity for Birth Control Pills, Obama Cell Phones, Unions and Food Stamps. Shameful!

      We may not know who all is selling out with their votes – but God does and they will be judged on Judgement day!

      Don’t get mad at me – I‘m in Sales and God’s in Management!

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  • GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
    Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:15pm

    There was an old saying: “There is no free lunch”……but I can see Obama’s policies twisted it into: “There is free lunch, and meal, and breakfast, for the lazy ones, forever, but we own you”

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:23pm

      I hope she is ready for the administration to come down on their collective heads in massive force; they will use the unions to apply all manner of pressure along with whatever else they can get away with.

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    • Bill Rowland
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 7:48am

      They shouldn’t fear the unions any more than the IRS. They made Obumbler look bad, he has all this money he wants to give away and they refused to help. Holders DOJ will be investigating their personnel actions the IRS will be auditing their finances and checking their credit card statements.
      Napolitano will send in US Marshals to harass them and their families.
      Laugh if you will, but it’s coming.

      OMG

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  • DonRickles
    Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:13pm

    Hate to tell all of you but Daniels was submarined by the big government types in the city government. They are now attempting to recall her and they passed a resolution agreeing to build a scaled down train station for $6.5 million dollars. They cut the “green landscaped roof, heated side walks” etc etc. They lied to us when they said it couldn’t be built for less than 8 million but once it was voted down they came back with a lower estimate. Funny how that works. They approved the new station on a 4-3 vote. The turncoat was Councilman WADE FLEMING. He turned his back on those who voted for him and I and others will never forgive him for that! Government is full of crony capitalism. They would never spend money like this if it came from THEIR pockets.

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:07pm

    don’t forget that IL reported last summer that obama hired thousands of mindless spineless trolls to flood these conservative comments with their pathetic defense of the filthy commie rabid animal obama.

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:03pm

    Excellence in leadership, Mayor. Well done.

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    • JBaer
      Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:32pm

      Indeed!! Very well done Mayor Janice.

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    • NancyBee
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:03am

      I’m with you…Mayor….I’ll pray for you

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  • sooner12
    Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:00pm

    Good for you Mayor Danieals and the other three who voted the same way.

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  • dtbox
    Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:50pm

    One for the good guys. Way to go mayor. Maybe all hope isn’t lost.

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  • UBETHECHANGE
    Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:48pm

    Good for you Troy, Michigan! Debt=slavery and our corrupt government knows this.

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  • 1casawizard
    Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:46pm

    Janice L. Daniels is my kind o woman. Put ya foot down to the feds, thay only want to rape ya. I wish every handout potential had enough guts. That woman knows what she is talking about. “There’s nothing free about government money”. nufsaid.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:48pm

      There gonna rape your finances anyways. Should have put your foot down 42 years ago.

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:38pm

    smart mayor.. that obamamoney comes dripping with the blood of our American children.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:42pm

      Uh, it came like that after 1970 and even before 1970. You’ve been dancing with the devil.

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    • isobamamadd
      Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:51pm

      The federal reserve prints Monopoly money, and this dream-pt up figment of legal debt is a ponsi scheme.(Fractional reserve Banking System)This money is backed by your indentured servitude of Credit Ratings and Loans. You cannot demand 1 ounce of Gold for the paper, but until now you can buy gold and other commodity‘s so their system doesn’t fail. They are using this same system to buy real wealth, Mines,Land ,Water, while at the same time destroying your wealth to save their ponsi scheme. Why are we Bailing out Paper, Why are we Obligated to pay debt that is digitally produced..

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  • DaveOregon
    Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:35pm

    Good for you Mayor – it not only is not FREE – has a long set of strings attached for a very looong time. If you sell your principals now – when do you ever stop???? Tell the CofC gal to get the businesses to pony up the dough or start of “community improvement drive” – and the community decides if they want to give the money. THATS the way it should be done – not backhanded “free” money from feds.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:38pm

      Why “Good for the Mayor?” They already believe they own her house and the property it is on, so why not take the money too. It‘s not as if it actually is worth anymore than the paper it’s on.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:39pm

      I’ll take a grant, give me 9 billion.

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  • Turtleman
    Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:30pm

    Bridge to nowhere anyone?

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  • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
    Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:30pm

    It’s the strings attached that kill these towns and states. We will give you this money, but know we own you. There will be a day, we will come to you and ask you a favor, this, you will not refuse.

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    • rawbender
      Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:50pm

      This is exactly how the national, not local or state B.A.C. was/is enforced. Federal highway programs.

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  • Lumbar Spine
    Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:26pm

    So…the Mayor doesn’t believe in creating jobs.

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    • Hope_and_Restore
      Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:41pm

      That’s right. Smart lady. She doesn’t believe in the GOVERNMENT creating jobs; they are far worse at it than the public sector. What were the numbers for the stimulus for ‘shovel-ready’ jobs? I seem to recall it costing the taxpayers several hundred-thousands of dollar for each job ‘generated’.

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    • UBETHECHANGE
      Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:44pm

      Don’t feed this troll.

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    • Lumbar Spine
      Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:53pm

      “I seem to recall it costing the taxpayers several hundred-thousands of dollar for each job ‘generated’.”

      Absolute bull***t from FOX News…

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    • Tallaron
      Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:47pm

      Creating jobs with money borrowed from China? What part of 15 trillion in debt do you not understand? You think like a politician!

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 8:54am

      @ LUMBAR SPINE, Yeah, yeah, we’ve heard it all too many times. Simply troll spew. If it’s reported by Fox it has to be a lie! Go suck on BSNBC and share that tingle up your leg and see how far that gets you.

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    • NancyBee
      Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:07am

      What shovel ready jobs? Obama and friends are still laughing about that one

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  • suzy000
    Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:24pm

    No one cares what the NYT’s thinks ANYMORE…they have become irrelevant.

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    • BurntHills
      Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:39pm

      NYT is a nothing but a communist rag that obama wipes his rear with — yet they still worship him.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:22pm

      I had a parrot once, I accidently used the NYTimes to line his cage, he went insane and told me how great Paul Krugman was. I had to eat him with a lovely cranberry sauce. I blame the Times. Damn you Krugman.

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