The Anti-GOP Threat in Maine You Didn’t Hear About
- Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:17am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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In this era of “violent rhetoric,” which is blamed on conservatives, there‘s a recent GOP death threat you probably haven’t heard of. Not a threat made against a liberal, but rather a threat made two weeks ago against the chairman of the Maine GOP that references the Tucson shootings:
The threat came after the assassination attempt of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, while much of the media was trying to blame that incident on conservative rhetoric and made a point to cite supposed examples. That the threat in Maine didn’t garner national attention, then, is surprising. Or maybe it isn’t.
My Fox Maine reports that police are still trying to figure out the threat author’s identity:
Police are investigating a threatening voicemail left for Maine GOP Chair Charlie Webster, who is widely credited for orchestrating the Republican takeover of the Maine legislature.
The message was discovered by staffers on Wednesday morning at the Maine GOP headquarters in Augusta. The caller, who was male, didn’t specify why he was upset with Webster, but he did reference the kind of gun used in last week’s deadly rampage in Tucson:
“Webster might survive a nine millimeter, but doubtful he’d survive a 50 cal. There’s a lot of 50 cals in Maine. He should change his tune because a lot of people are really mad.”
If you recognize the voice on the message, you’re asked to call Augusta police.
The Blaze has reached out to Webster for comment.
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Comments (191)
mitcha_ca_sux
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 12:06pmI think I found a video of a ******* shooting his .50 cal. Take a look and you tell me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc
Report Post »mitcha_ca_sux
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 12:11pmAnother Lib?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRgYtp3HfvY&feature=related
Report Post »mitcha_ca_sux
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 12:14pmMaybe this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGCBQPr-c4k&NR=1
Report Post »Devil Dog 7175
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 6:56pmYup… I think your right! lol
Report Post »entropy
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:54amI don’t understand why everybody is acting like they are scared of the liberal wackos. What violence? You mean hiding in the shadows and issuing threats instead of actually doing something? You mean when they gang up on women and break their legs while outnumbering the victims 5 to1? You call that something to be afraid of? I call that cowardice, pure and simple. They don’t have the balls to come and fight with men eyeball to eyeball. I say bring it on.
Report Post »Akira Gomi
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:50amAre you kidding me? No one took this fool for real. A 50 cal. hand gun is huge and is not so simple for quick draw and use with in 5-7 feet, which by the way most hand guns are used, you have to burn alot of lead to get good .. If he stalking with a rifle, this takes much time to pull this off. A lot of prep time, target, terrain, humidity, wind speed, etc. The libs don’t own guns or rifles, there only experts are young black men robbing mininmart, holding the gun sideways, couldn’t hit thier target if they tried, maybe an innocent 9 year old bystander can count too, which by the way is ok with the commander in thief as long as it makes the people who disagree with him pay..
Report Post »wise grandma
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:47amYou might not hear it on fox except from Glenn. They are being fair and balanced so if a conservative doesn‘t threaten a liberal they can’t talk about being fair and balanced and all.
Report Post »mjbeejr
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:44amWhat’s the big deal? Whether he’s just some guy in P.J’s on his couch or a riled up assassin with a scoped 50 cal., who cares? He’s just some republican dude? Right?
If Mr. Webster were the Maine DNC Chair this story would have gone hyperviral throughout the liberal media and the cries for more gun control, coming from the likes of big mouth Chuck “Short Clip” Schumer, would hurt a dog’s ears!
The hypocrisy on the left is nauseating
Report Post »MissCherryJones
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:43amSad, sad. All the blame for violence is aimed toward conservatives, lefties are making the real threats and STILL nothing from the media. Heaven forbid something happens. They will blame conservatives, despite the man’s own words. I cannot believe we live in a country run, and covered, by third-graders. “Nahnahnah…I can’t hear you“ ”It wasn’t me“ ”He did it”
Report Post »Dear politicians and mainstream media: GROW UP
Bigliardi
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 2:29pmI wonder if the lipsyncing liberal newscasters realize that it is they who have created the situation that has caused our political system to be so unbelieveably polarized. They have by their purposeful liberal slant on the news, created a situation that might one day soon turn violent. I wonder if they know that when it does, someone will be coming for them…
Report Post »theirworstnightmare
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 6:06pmBigliardi speaks the truth… I wonder if ANY of these lefty whackos realize they are poking a hornet’s nest, and leftism only works on people who are unwilling to stand for what they believe in. The last time I checked, I lived in AMERICA :) Long may she live!
Report Post »DVT
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:41amWait…wait…wait…Am I to infer a lib can actually learn to fire a weapon without help from the gubbermint? scary indeed!
Report Post »Seriously tho…stay frosty people these loons are starting to act on their desperation with a renewed zeal!
cykonas
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:39amAre there any posters here from the Great State of Maine? I’m curious if this was reported earlier in your media?
Report Post »cliKKer
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 12:12pmI’m from Maine… and this is the first I am hearing of it… funny how the new gov. “tell Obama go to hell and NAALCP Kiss my Butt” statement was national news immediately. Funny how that works… as Soros says there are two Euros there are two Maines. Portland etc… is looney liberal land. Basically outer staters move from NY, Mass and have their second homes. (Since Maine has been controlled by Lib Demos there are no jobs, money in maine due to regulation, taxes and environmentalism) the want to live in “vacation” land yet want all the services they grew accustom to in their liberal government havens. Anything North is just the little people who… and if you are a fisherman you are their scenery for their Million Dollar Homes.
This is the FIRST time Republicans have controlled the Gov and Legs… in 46 years. The progressive left ARE MAD and can’t comprehend this. The racism, vitriolic hate that is coming from them is palpable.
There will be violence perpetrated by them (although may not be physical towards a person but towards property / environmental based)
Report Post »cykonas
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 12:37pm@Clikker
Report Post »Thanks. I suspected it would be the same non-report up there but I just wanted to verify that feeling. I’ve only been to Maine once and it was quite a few years back. It’s a beautiful state. Let’s hope your political/economic fortunes are looking up. Peace, and thanks again.
DJR
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 12:43pmYes cykonas, I’m from Maine. Although this story did not get a lot of national air time it was reported in some papers across the country at the time. The Tucson story was much bigger so it got more attention. It was an AP story and if you do a search on the web you’ll see it on some news sites. And clikker, if this is the 1st you‘ve heard of it then you’re not listening or reading the local news. It was all over the papers and tv stations here. Look it up.
Report Post »screwauger
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 12:46pmI never heard about this and I live in central maine and I am a news junky. I heard it on Beck’s show today, searched the internet and saw a small news article in the Portland Press Herald which I don’t normally read.
Report Post »midcoastmainepatriot
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 12:52pmI live in Maine and I never heard anything about this….but then again I listen to WVOM all day: Glenn,Rush,Howie Carr then Sean and stay away from the lame stream media. The guy is of course a liberal.Everyone I know wept tears of joy on election day when We The Tea Party People started to turn the tide of insanity that has been in charge in Augusta for far too many years. God bless Paul Lapage ;our own little gov. Chris Christie
Report Post »ofallon
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:39amA similar event happened in Missouri last September with Governor Nixon. The Governor was unharmed. No details were given about the attempted assassin concerning his ideology, politics etc. Wouldn’t that be considered an important piece of the puzzle? It’s not like he is on the run. He sits in jail unless he is out on bail. Can we please get some answers? Who is this guy?
I notified both Missouri Senators with no response. I notified 2 local St. Louis stations with a reply that the story was covered back in September. I learned of the attempted assassination of our Governor only a few days ago on the Glenn Beck show. I was shocked that our local news spends more time on the weather.
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:53amThe media is in the PROTECTION BUSINESS of liberals and will quash any story they can if it seems harmful to the Leftist Agenda!
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:35amWell, there ya have it, proof of two things. First is that our so called “media” is totally PARTISAN and CORRUPT to the point of being responsible for much of the hateful rhetoric, not conservatives as they DISHONESTLY claim to be the case. And second, do you understand his thinking (the caller)? He, Webster, should change his tune because a lot of people are mad. Translation: Kill those who disagree with the left, THAT’S THE MESSAGE of this NUT-CASE!
Report Post »Ronko
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:34amThe Police will get this person. Unless the person in question is smart and made the threat from a pay phone they’ll be able to track him or her down and charge them with making terroristic threats towards an individual. It‘s only a matter of time and if he does kill the GOP person then it further reinforces Glenn Beck’s point that Violence isn’t the answer and that the left is always the ones who are commiting the violence.
Report Post »rmblount
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:34amWhy am I not surprised the mass media didn’t report this? Oh, wait! I thought only crazy, right-wing, evangelical, conservatives owned firearms(especially a .50cal)
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 12:40pmYou forgot TEA Partiers!
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:33amWe are told in the Bible that evil will come, that we may be surrounded when it does come, and that our GOD will stand by us and shield us. Our duty is to pray and thank HIM in all things, to trust HIM and “to trim our lamps”. We need to tighten up our ships, pray and prepare. GOD BLESS AND PROTECT HIS KIDS.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:45am@KICKAGRANDMA
Report Post »We are also told that people’s hearts will be “hardened.” I think it is already happening, with all the rudeness and incivility (I am not talking political civility, I am talking everyday pushing, not saying “excuse me,” etc.) We are starting to see more earthquakes and severe weather phenomena.
I hope I am not here to see the worst of it.
azmomof6
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 12:53pmThe Bible also reads of those who would call good evil, and evil good. We see this evidenced every day by progressives and liberals. We can always know what they‘re up to by what they’re accusing others of.
Report Post »youguysready_letsroll
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:33amPeople need to calm down. Those that resort to violence, lack the ability to effectively present their argument or have a weak argument to begin with, so they resort to violence.That, or they’re just simply crazy. Nonviolence is the way.Sometimes they resort to name calling – see Sarah Palin. Instead of challenging the substance of her message, they resort to name calling or nitpicking.
Report Post »Sarah124
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:52amHow can I calm down?! Liberals are being armed!
Report Post »Devil Dog 7175
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 6:43pmSarah… I agree with you. I along with many who post here (I’m sure) have fought wars for this country and would again if asked. War and its brutality are the last thing ,I assure you that you want. Only those who have never felt the horror or the fear of war and regret for taking anothers life will scream war first.
Report Post »BUT… I too am growing weary of the insults and constant turning of the cheek , of having to defend my beliefs and holding back the rage that wells up inside. In my heart I know that we are in the right. I’m tettering on the rim and my feelings are ,OK … lets dance. Time to end it. God forgive us, but I’m begining to think that its only a matter of time now, and it is unfortunately the only solution to this problem. As far as liberals arming… Not to worry, there are only a very small percentage who will actually show them selves and fight, most of the “lemmings” that follow them will have no stomach for what will follow. There are many more of “us” out here that silently wait and prepair, then you may imagine. Keep praying for a peaceful solution, but prepair for the worst.
Semper Fi!
Kevin
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 8:29pm@Devil Dog Marine, thanks for your service. I’ve had my time behind M-16′s, M-60′s SAWs, and what-not, but they were aimed at little targets or whatever at Army ranges. I can’t compare to actually putting live fire down range at the real enemy. That’s whole new level. And I too can‘t stand people acting tough and talking about how we need to go to war with some country but it’s not their @$$ . Nonviolence is the way, but there is a severe uptick in this type of rhetoric – it’s starting to heat up
Report Post »Dave of Tennessee
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:31amThis threat was made against a conservative, therefore you will hear nothing about it in the lamestream media. Had it been made against the DNC Chair, it wouold have been fromt page stuff and Katie Couric’s lead story.
Report Post »WireWizard
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:29amI don’t have a 50 cal, so it can’t be me. Besides, I’m in sunny Floridia.
Where is John Galt?
Report Post »Enuff Zenuff
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 3:04pmAnd just as important – Who is John Galt?
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:29amDid anyone see Glenn’s show the other night where he showed high profile assinations in America and who was responsible?? None of them were conservatives. A true conservative saves his ammo for protecting his family and our nation NOT a political agenda.
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:28amAre you telling me they can’t trace that phone message?? I say BS!
Report Post »MissCherryJones
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:39amIf it was from a disposable cell phone, then no, they couldn’t trace it. There still are ways of making anonymous calls.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 12:32pmNo Caller ID?
No FBI?
No MSNBC, ABC, or CBS?
WTF? (Where’re the Feds?!)
Report Post »White Devil
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 1:15pmIt could have been from a pay phone…if they still exist.
Report Post »RonaldoMagus
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:28amShocking…. wonder if they will bother tracking this nut down before he does anything tragic.
Sarah Palin probably is too blame!!!
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:26amI’m a right-wing whacko and I don’t even have a .50 cal. It appears as if the libs do. Maybe we have under-estimated them?
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:29amProbably talking out of his *ss…. He probably wouldn’t know how to use it if he life depended on it.
Report Post »troyvar
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:44amA lot of the muzzle loaders out there, are 50 cal. They better catch this *****.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:45amYou think a sissy liberal can handle this??? I think not!
Report Post »http://www.popularmechanics.com/outdoors/recreation/1277336
Sarah124
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:49amWhy does Maine have a lot of .50 cals? Is there something about that state that I’m not aware of?
Anyone can survive a .50 cal if the person holding it doesn’t know how to aim. I’m betting Webster would be the safest person in the room if that nutjob had a gun in his hands.
Report Post »troyvar
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:52amThey may have catapults too… you’d be surprised how far you can chuck a pumpkin.
Report Post »davecoolworld
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 4:19pmSARAH124…a 50 cal is so devastating, even a bad shot causes explosive injuries. A shot to the hand would take it clean off. The victim would bleed out while in shock or suffer cardiac arrest upon impact.
Report Post »Devil Dog 7175
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 7:01pmRight you are … a 50cal is a very dangerous weapon, IN THE RIGHT HANDS. Draw backs are they are very expensive, heavy, bulky, not at all manuverable, and not ment for close combat. Pluses… they can (again in the right hands) reach out and touch you from a LONG way off.
Report Post »myfamily04
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:26amThis is against a GOP so FOX and Beck and the Blaze are the only places you will hear about this one! There are too many nut jobs out there and the libs ARE to blame
Report Post »Untameable-kate
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:38amBut, but, but FOX and Beck and conservative talk radio all lie, right?? We must trust in the LSM to tell us everything we should know, right? Crap.
Report Post »dwh320
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:25amThe Progressive got what they wanted… their nuts are out seeking revenge for something in AZ that never happened. Typical Socialist propaganda and tactics. Get the liberal useful idiots to do your dirty work.
Report Post »expatinontariocanada
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:25am“Hello, Augusta Police Department, I know who that was, (whispering) it was Sarah Palin!!!!”
(Ok, for those of you who can’t tell…I’M KIDDING about it being Palin, for crying out loud…”
Report Post »will
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:24amThis should be reported by lamestream news. You can bet if it was a threat to a lib it would be all over the news.
Report Post »SeymourJohnsonafb
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:42amThat’s just it, Will…the media does know about it but refuses to report it. They are as big a threat to our republic as any enemy we’ve ever faced.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 1:09pmYes all the newa they CHOOSE to report.
Report Post »AlwaysLearning
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:23amOf course it won’t make the news, the threat was against a Pubbie. Nor will attacks like that on the Dem governor in October where the attacker was a prominent progressive.
Doesn’t fit their agenda.
Report Post »exdem
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:29amThe revolution has begun. Heaven help all things conservative.
NUTHRDUMBCONSERVATIVE
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:38amIt also doesn’t make any sense to the MSM that a liberal could do this. Evil doesn’t exist except in the hearts of Conservatives. To believe otherwise would collapse the entire belief system of the left.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:42amThe left is the side that is violent. They usually don’t threat like this, instead they just show up and start shooting or blowing things up. I think this guy isn’t a threat, but definately looney. And I doubt he has a 50 cal…That‘s a REAL man’s gun. It’s not for sissy liberals.
Report Post »Kaen
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:49amSilly people…its only news when Conservatives act like this…
http://explodingpuppy.blogspot.com/
opinions…not for the timid nor “Politically Correct”
mikem1969
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:50amOnce again the liberal progressive media shows its bias in not reporting threats made against conservatives. If it was a threat against a libbie or progressive, it would be all over the place and they would right off the bat blame the conservatives and the tea party. Violence 95% of the time comes from the left.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 11:55amWhere’s the FBI on this death threat? Is it a “pick and chose” thing now?
Report Post »taskmaster78
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 12:13pm@Dustyluv,
Report Post »I’m a Mainer and yep I know a place where once a year I can hear a 50 cal being shot from my home.
chuck
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 12:16pmEXCLUSIVE: A book celebrating suicide bombers has been found in the Arizona desert just north of the U.S.- Mexican border, authorities tell Fox News.
bumpy ride ahead?
Report Post »taskmaster78
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 12:20pmThat guy on the phone is from either PA or CT. He doesn’t carry any local accent, most likely a transplant and a flat lander. I think he may want to look at who is the so call “really mad” people are, the win in November was a direct vote against the leftist that have buried this state in 12 billion in dept since they took over 35 years ago. The problem with his comment referencing the 50 cal’s none are owned by leftist, these guys are patriots, so he doesn‘t have a clue what he’s referencing.
Report Post »mrlogan3
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 12:29pmBeing a New Englander, I would say Maine is probably one of the less liberal/progressive states in the region, I would guess even their Democrats are slightly conservative AND that the person who made this threat is a conservative. That’s not because I think all conservatives are bad, it’s just because once you go north of MA, New England gets a lot less progressive.
Report Post »GEW
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 12:30pmthe sad part about this, all those follow these people(Progressives, libs, dems), like this guy, will be used, then tossed aside, and they will be treated exactly like they are advocating to do conservatives. History always repeats itself and believe me, there is not enough room at the top of the Progressive chain for 99.9 of their puppets…take a look at a really good example just south of us, Cuba, Venezuela, all the wee people wanted equality equality…and they got it, in slavery why those who pushed them to rebel, live it up on the ash hemps of their dead. Crying shame….
Report Post »Miguelito
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 12:36pmHow is that Double Standard working out? Plan and simple…its about Good and evil!
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 12:37pmAnyone who watches the MSM is a moron. It’s just that simple.
Report Post »screwauger
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 12:43pm@MRLOGAN3
I would beg to differ. I reside in Maine and I helped elect the repubs that took over the state admin. Your assessment would be correct from Augusta northward however, locals refer to Sagadahoc, Cumerland and York Counties (Souther ME) as “Little Boston.” Since these are the most populated areas and they are chuck full of moonbats, they have had a remarkable impact on the state. Of course, you must know the RINO sisters. Add Pingree and you are talking microcosm of liberal agendas
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 12:44pmMRLOGAN3, there are “crazies” in every state no matter red or blue, so I wouldn’t jump to any conclusions (kinda like Arizona). Mobility is a freedom that allows even the nuts to fall far away from the trees they came from.
Report Post »home_of_the_brave
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 1:01pmIn conclusion of the following few weeks headlines we have… Cops being targeted for violence, riots in wendy’s and IHOP, threats against our politicians and “vitriol” against conservatives. Piven would be proud.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 1:20pmReally Blaze? A threatening voicemail to the Maine GOP chair is the subject of a massive coverup? Death threats against public officials are not new in any way, and there are many many many of them that are not reported on. The Blaze really stretches the definition of the word “News”!
Report Post »click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 1:20pmFor some reason Maine doesn’t seem like 50 cal territory. Maybe S.Carolina, Arkansas, Utah, etc, but Maine?
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 1:23pm@Grandmaof5
Indeed there are crazies in each and every state; they cross all boundries and are united only in one comon way – insanity.
Report Post »Brad Wesselmann
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 1:29pmThe left is just a bunch of bullies and when we stand up to them they will go away…especially this bunch. Cowards use these tactics because they cannot win any other way, and there are more people willing to stand up than sit down. They will riot, but will not fight. They will burn businesses, but they will not stand on a line to stop oppression. Natural law and the God of man will bring us together when we need to be united and an honest man to lead us when we are lost. Keep the faith, that is the one thing they cannot take from us no matter how oppressive governments become.
Report Post »Hoosier Daddy
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 2:01pmWas that Sheriff Dupnik’s voice?
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 2:07pmWhat about this threat?
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/01/27/yee-limbaugh-death-threat/
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 2:07pmFirst, it’s not clear why the caller is upset. It could be a Lefty upset with the Right taking our country back, or it could be a Righty upset at a perceived RINO. I don‘t know Charlie Webster’s positions.
Second, we should absolutely be encouraging as many people as possible to carry weapons – yes, for personal safety, but primarily because, as the Founders understood, the government must be afraid to overstep their Constitutional authority, which is why the Second Amendment was written.
I think as long as this guy can say that he believes he has no other option than to threaten elected officials, he is well within his Second Amendment rights. Now is not the time to quell speech – if you try to shut people up, you remove the forum whereby which they can make their case to their fellow citizens that their rights are being violated.
I cannot stress enough that if we had already a culture in place where everyone felt it was their right, and duty to themselves, to carry weapons, that such a culture would also include self-regulated behavioral protocols designed to reassure our fellow man that we had no ill-intentions;
Such as wearing a weapon visibly, which would tend to deter murders, but would also allow others the opportunity to determine the character of a man by noticing under what circumstances he will reach for his weapon.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 2:40pm@GRANDMAOF5 Good for you! You may have been referring to the right-wing militia’s killing of Brisenia Flores? http://www.briseniaflores.com/home2.html Or has anyone told y’all of these death threats by a Rush supporter yesterday?
Report Post »http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2011/01/rush_limbaugh_supporter_faxes.php The point is that when you get part of the story, it’s easy to jump on a self-righteous, blame band-wagon.
tifosa
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 3:00pmbtw, how interesting is it that this isn’t a “wait for the facts” or “blame the person himself” situation when a Republican is the target…
Report Post »IntheKnowOG
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 3:02pmCue the leftist trolls screaming and crying that this is nothing or using a moral equivalency fallacy. Anything to stifle opposition. It’s the Alinsky way!
Report Post »RN MOM
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 3:03pmWhy are all the blog posters referring to the Tucson shooting as an act performed by a conservative? Are your memories that short? The Tucson shooter is not a conservative, he is a liberal. In addition he is mentally unstable, so it is highly doubted that his political affiliation was a causal factor.This story in Maine is just one more example of the liberal violence that has taken this country and our leaders hostage.
People wake up- don’t fall into the lullaby of propaganda. Remember the facts as we found them out, don’t let time and crafty writers slowly morph this Tucson shooter into a conservative republican.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 4:16pmA Doctor’s Labor is not my Right,
“I think as long as this guy can say that he believes he has no other option than to threaten elected officials, he is well within his Second Amendment rights.”
Holy cow! How nuts are you? What exactly in the Second Amendment says you have the right to threaten public officials. How could you be so stupid as to think that a room full of lawyers and political elites came up with an amendment that says individuals can throw off the rule of law when they disagree with people in the government. I mean really… how stupid do you have to be?
“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”
Where exactly in this individual’s disturbed voicemail do you see evidence of a “well regulated militia”? How in God’s name does an individual threatening a public official with murder constitute “security?”
Report Post »cykonas
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 4:29pmYou folks are kidding me, right? Here is a compendium of your comments:
The revolution has begun. Heaven help all things conservative.
Evil doesn’t exist except in the hearts of Conservatives.
The left is the side that is violent.
Violence 95% of the time comes from the left.
And I doubt he has a 50 cal…That‘s a REAL man’s gun. It’s not for sissy liberals.
Anyone who watches the MSM is a moron. It’s just that simple.
The left is just a bunch of bullies and when we stand up to them they will go away…especially this bunch.
And last, but not least, my favorite of this thread:
A threatening voicemail to the Maine GOP chair is the subject of a massive coverup? Death threats against public officials are not new in any way, and there are many many many of them that are not reported on. The Blaze really stretches the definition of the word “News”!
Really Blazers? All of the problems of the world are made by the “other guy”? Really, is this what passes for dialogue in the public forum today? No thought. No intellect. No discourse. Just “my side is correct”, and “your side is not”. “My side is good” and “your side is bad”. That’s it? If that’s so, what a stinking shame!
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 5:02pmSpeaking of the media not reporting important stories….
Report Post »I wonder why The Blaze decided not to report on this full page ad in the Wall Street Journal from a group of rabbis condemning Glenn Becks constant references to the Holocaust:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/26/AR2011012607540.html
RantNationDotCom
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 6:04pmIt won’t make the news any more than Obama saying “It’s the white thing to do” during the SOTU.
Report Post »click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 6:14pmRN MOM
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 3:03pm
“Why are all the blog posters referring to the Tucson shooting as an act performed by a conservative? Are your memories that short? People wake up- don’t fall into the lullaby of propaganda.”
Thank you!
Report Post »click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 6:18pmcykonas aka PubliusPencilman, ok genius, let’s here all of your high and mighty commentary on the subject.
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Posted on January 27, 2011 at 6:21pmmrlogan3, if what you said is true, then maybe there is hope for New England after all.
Report Post »bspolice
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 6:34pmThursday, Jan. 27 2011 at 6:22pm eastern time:
Report Post »I have just come from the MSNBC web site and can honestly say that I have found NO trace of this story, anywhere, on there website. What should be frontpage news is nowhere to be found at MSNBC. I have time and dated this so if MSNBC wants to take notes, this is how you make a claim using facts to support your statement. MSNBC and all who work there, what a disappointment you are to the people of this country and the first amendment.
A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 6:43pm@PubliusPencilman,
“Holy cow! How nuts are you? What exactly in the Second Amendment says you have the right to threaten public officials. How could you be so stupid as to think that a room full of lawyers and political elites came up with an amendment that says individuals can throw off the rule of law when they disagree with people in the government. I mean really… how stupid do you have to be?”
The role of government is to secure individual unalienable rights. And the point of the Second Amendment was to ensure that the People had the ability to defend their rights against a corrupt government.
Here, from the Bill of Rights, is the stated purpose for, among other amendments, the Second Amendment.
“THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.”
And remember that when the Founders declared their independence, they were in the minority; That is, they recognized that the unalienable rights of the individual were being violated, and it didn’t matter how many people agreed with the government. we are not a Democracy, but a Republic; The Constitution does not recognize group rights.
So, after our Founders came out of that mess, they set up a government that would reaffirm to each generation of Americans their unalienable rights, and that could be easily recognized to have violated them, should that occur.
““A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”
“Where exactly in this individual’s disturbed voicemail do you see evidence of a “well regulated militia”? How in God’s name does an individual threatening a public official with murder constitute “security?””
Notice that the restriction is imposed on the government; So whatever “well-regulated militia” means, the purpose of one is to oppose corrupt government.
Now, in order for a citizen militia to oppose a corrupt government, they must have the freedom and readiness to form one – which is why each individual must be allowed to keep and bear arms.
Also, since a group must form from like-minded individuals, the individual citizen must first contemplate, for himself, the use of force against elected officials before they can either 1) determine how “like-minded” they are with another individual, and 2) form a group (duh).
With an understanding, then, that a corrupt government is the reason for the Constitutionally guaranteed right for individuals to keep and bear arms, and that rights belong to the individual, it therefore stands to reason that any outrage with a perceived corrupted government would manifest at the individual level. There is no Borg mentality promoted by the Constitution.
As for how threatening a public official with death (Second Amendment) constitutes security, remember that the security in view is that of individual unalienable rights. We do not serve government, but rather the government serves the People – and that at the individual level, such that all men are to be treated and protected equally according to their nature as individuals.
Report Post »watchmany2k
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 6:55pm1) they guy‘s accent doesn’t sound like any Maine accent I have heard, I‘d say he’s from away.
Report Post »2) they are currently discussing what to do about the 4.3 BILLION state employee pension shortfall
3) most of Maine is VERY progressive/socialist, it is only the northern counties that are conservative
I was amazed that we got a republican Govenor AND legislature, yet they kept pingree in who is a moonbat’s moonbat ??…
@A Dr’s labor is not my right -what exactly are you trying to incite with your rhetoric ?
I’ll tell you this, what you are declaring as a right, is something long after the state stands on it’s 10th ammendment right and not some mini militia or individual to decide. You are as wrong as the extreem left.
DisillusionedDaily
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 6:59pmAs a very famous socialist once said:
The very first essential for success is a perpetually constant and regular employment of violence.
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cykonas
Posted on January 27, 2011 at 7:36pm@CLICK4CHEAPANDEASYWEB
cykonas aka PubliusPencilman, ok genius, let’s here all of your high and mighty commentary on the subject.
1. I have never used any other screen name than Cykonas while posting in the Blaze.
Report Post »2. Which subject are you inviting a commentary of?
A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:24am@PubliusPencilman,
I responded, but the comment was rejected.
Just remember what motivated the Founders to declare their independence from Great Britain. Read the beginning part of the Bill of Rights, as well.
Put yourself in the Founders’ shoes, and you’ll understand what the safeguards in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are for.
Report Post »screwtape
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 8:32amSo true. It is especially telling how the liberal media ignores “trivial” stories. For example, nowhere is there any mention of the fact that Frances Fox Piven granted an interview with a radical left wing talk show, Wild Wild Left Radio. Her target? His first name is Glenn.
If you think you can control your gag reflex so as not to vomit, then you can listen to her interview at http://www.wildwildleft.com
Bet this turns out to be another story you won’t hear about in the liberal corporate media.
Report Post »democratgirl
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:23amProphetic lesson of State of the Union: More house cleaning necessary
In the State of the Union address, the president told Americans, “But to help our companies compete, we also have to knock down barriers that stand in the way of their success. For example, over the years, a parade of lobbyists has rigged the tax code to benefit particular companies and industries. Those with accountants or lawyers to work the system can end up paying no taxes at all. But all the rest are hit with one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world. It makes no sense, and it has to change. So tonight, I’m asking Democrats and Republicans to simplify the system. Get rid of the loopholes. Level the playing field.” He also said that the wealthiest two percent of Americans should give up their tax breaks.
The president put his money where his mouth is even before the State of the Union. CNSNews reports that three Chicago chapters of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) have received waivers from participating in the new socialized health care system. The waivers allow the SEIU to limit how much they have to spend on their workers health care. In fact, the Administration has issued some 223 such waivers so far, with plans for 500 more–and at least 45 of them are labor unions–unions that gave millions to the president’s campaign. For example, the three Chicago SEIU local political action committee gave a total of $27 million in support of the president’s election.
The appearance of bribery clouds these waivers so much that Congress is going to investigate. Iowa Republican Senator Charles Grassley told CNSNews.com that these waivers are a “perfect example of special interests” having an “in” with the Administration. The president is in great error when he said that lobbyists “rigged the tax code to benefit particular companies and industries.” Nothing passes Congress without a vote, and if the tax code gives advantage to some over others, it is, in this case, the president and his own party that made it law. Leveling the playing field may mean Chicago-style cronyism to the president, but the American people should demand a higher standard.
If we have learned anything since the last election and from this State of the Union, more cleansing in Washington is needed as Isaiah 59:7 says, “Their feet run to evil, and they make hast to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.” But we must be careful who we put in office. Jesus gave the example in Matthew 12 of when an unclean spirit goes out of a man that the spirit, “takes with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last sate of that man is worse than the first.” We must take care that we discern properly the spiritual state of those who we choose as leaders.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:55amFirst of all, A Doctor’s Labor, this story is about the chair of the Maine GOP, which is not a public office, and has nothing to do with “tyranny” or the government, so already none of your goofy argument is valid.
Secondly, you cannot just say “whatever a ‘well-regulated milita’ means.” Article 1 of the Constitution explicitely places militias under the shared power of Congress and the States:
“To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;”
Again–none of this seems to sanction some nutjob threatening a public official.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 12:50pmclick4cheapandeasyweb
Report Post »Posted on January 27, 2011 at 6:18pm “cykonas aka PubliusPencilman, ok genius, let’s here all of your high and mighty commentary on the subject.”
You misspelled “hear” genius :)
PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:22pm“With an understanding, then, that a corrupt government is the reason for the Constitutionally guaranteed right for individuals to keep and bear arms, and that rights belong to the individual, it therefore stands to reason that any outrage with a perceived corrupted government would manifest at the individual level. There is no Borg mentality promoted by the Constitution.”
Am I crazy, or does the document begin with the statement “We the people”? You contradict yourself below: “We do not serve government, but rather the government serves the People.” It is all about the collective! Your logic makes absolutely no sense. Your argument is essentially that because individuals have rights under the American government, individuals also have to option to ignore the law when they are unhappy. Law and the rule of law are general constructs!
“As for how threatening a public official with death (Second Amendment) constitutes security, remember that the security in view is that of individual unalienable rights. We do not serve government, but rather the government serves the People – and that at the individual level, such that all men are to be treated and protected equally according to their nature as individuals.”
Yes, And that right, according to the amendment, is the right to keep and bear arms. Since no one actually violated this right, then there is no actual threat to security as you define it. Of course, if rights are violated, there is an entire branch of the government devoted to addressing these concerns (I’ll give you a hint: the name starts with “Judicial”). Yet, nowhere here is there any evidence of government corruption, particularly because, as I mentioned, the Maine GOP chair is not a government entity.
So anyway, your argument is faulty, and your logic is a joke.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on January 31, 2011 at 11:35amThe story was also not carried by Fox site. BSPOLICE might just want to adjust the meter to “fair and balance.” :)
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