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The Butler Did It? Pope’s Personal Butler Arrested in Leaked Documents Scandal

Vatican Confirms Popes Personal Butler Paolo Gabriele Arrested in Leaked Documents Scandal

Paolo Gabriele (bottom), the pope's butler, travels withPope Benedict XVI on April 18, 2012. Gabriele was arrested after secret documents were found in his apartment. (Image source: AFP)

VATICAN CITY (AP) — The Vatican confirmed on Saturday that the pope’s butler has been arrested in its embarrassing leaks scandal, adding a Hollywood twist to a sordid tale of power struggles, intrigue and corruption in the highest levels of Catholic Church governance.

Paolo Gabriele, a layman and member of the papal household, was arrested Wednesday after secret documents were found in his Vatican City apartment and was continuing to be held Saturday, Vatican spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombardi said in a statement.

Gabriele is often seen by Pope Benedict XVI’s side in public, riding in the front seat of his open-air jeep during Wednesday general audiences or shielding the pontiff from the rain. He has been the pope’s personal butler since 2006, one of the few members of the small papal household that also includes the pontiff’s private secretaries and four consecrated women who care for the papal apartment.

His arrest followed another stunning development at the Vatican this week, the ouster of the president of the Vatican bank, Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, by his board. Sources close to the investigation said he, too, was found to have leaked documents, though the official reason for his ouster was that he simply failed to do his job.

The “Vatileaks” scandal has seriously embarrassed the Vatican at a time during which it is trying to show the world financial community that it has turned a page and shed its reputation as a scandal plagued tax haven.

Vatican documents leaked to the press in recent months have undermined that effort, alleging corruption in Vatican finance as well as internal bickering over the Holy See’s efforts to show more transparency in its financial operations. But perhaps most critically, the leaks have seemed aimed at one main goal: to discredit Pope Benedict XVI’s No. 2, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the Vatican secretary of state.

The scandal took on even greater weight last week with the publication of “His Holiness,” a book which reproduced confidential letters and memos to and from Benedict and his personal secretary. The Vatican called the book “criminal” and vowed to take legal action against the author, publisher, and whoever leaked the documents.

The Vatican had already warned of legal action against the author, Italian journalist Gianluigi Nuzzi, after he broadcast letters in January from the former No. 2 Vatican administrator to the pope in which he begged not to be transferred for having exposed alleged corruption that cost the Holy See millions of euros in higher contract prices. The prelate, Monsignor Carlo Maria Vigano, is now the Vatican’s U.S. ambassador.

Nuzzi, author of “Vatican SpA,” a 2009 volume laying out shady dealings of the Vatican bank based on leaked documents, said he was approached by sources inside the Vatican with the trove of new documents, most of them of fairly recent vintage and many of them painting Bertone in a negative light.

Bertone, 77, had no diplomatic experience when, after Benedict’s election, he took over the high-profile job as the main administrator of the Vatican and its external relations. He had long been Benedict‘s loyal deputy as a canon lawyer at the Vatican’s orthodoxy office.

But he has been blamed for a series of gaffes that have plagued Benedict’s papacy and, according to the leaked documents, generated a not inconsiderable amount of ill will directed at him from other Vatican officials.

“For some time and in various parts of the church, criticism even by the faithful has been growing about the lack of coordination and confusion that reign at its center,” Cardinal Paolo Sardi, the former No. 2 official in the Vatican secretariat of state, wrote to the pope in 2009, according to the letter reproduced in “His Holiness.”

At a news conference this week, Nuzzi defended the publication of the book and said he wasn’t afraid of Vatican retaliation. In fact, he even taunted Vatican prosecutors to seek help from Italian magistrates to investigate the case, charging that it would be a remarkable turnaround, given that the Vatican has been less than helpful in the past when Italian prosecutors came asking for information for their investigations.

He praised his sources – and said there were several – in his acknowledgments, writing: “They risked their jobs, loves, lives to entrust their big and little secrets.”

Nuzzi had no comment Saturday about the arrest.

Lombardi said Saturday the arrest of Gabriele was a sad development for all Vatican staff. “Everyone knows him in the Vatican, and there’s certainly surprise and pain, and great affection for his beloved family,” Lombardi said.

Lombardi said Gabriele had met with his two lawyers and that the Vatican judicial system was taking its investigative course. He hasn’t been indicted.

The Vatican has taken the leaks very seriously, with Benedict appointing a commission of cardinals to investigate. Vatican gendarmes as well as prosecutors are also investigating the sources of the leaks.

Comments (107)

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  • Ralpie
    Posted on May 27, 2012 at 8:44am

    Amazing all of you Catholic suckers who follow this pedophile leader without question….and the remaining Christians that think they have some in with an invisible man in the sky…Religious people are only one thing…Suckers.

    Everything that we associate with religion is imaginary. God, the Bible, Jesus, the resurrection, prayer, the Ten Commandments, the creation story, your soul, everlasting life, heaven… every bit of it is the product of human imagination. The same goes for Allah, the Koran and so on. As a species we have believed all of this religious dogma for centuries, and most of us believe it today to some degree. And yet… it is all fiction. It is just as fictional as were the gods of the Egyptians, the Romans and the Aztecs.

    There are two important reasons why humans fabricate all of our religions:
    People invent God as a way to cope with death. Many humans are terrified by death for some reason. They invent religion as a way to deal with their terror.

    People invent God as a proxy for goodness. People want a way to promote “goodness” and eliminate “evil” in their societies. In the past, inventing an imaginary God has been perceived to be one way to facilitate that process.
    If we can separate death and goodness from the mythology of God so that we can understand them and work with them in a positive way, we can actually do something very helpful. We can create a rational world for ourselves that is focused on benefiting mankind.

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    • upstatenyteabagger
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 8:57am

      Glad I won’t see you in heaven have fun in the pit

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    • G-WHIZ
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 10:45am

      First there was Christ….Then there were Christians….Then ROME-an Catholics(only one flavor). These were started by the Rullers-in-Rome…they first tried burnning them out…then Lion-food. Finally they found a better CONTROL…make them into the king’s religion! The King-of-England didn’t like the romancatholosism, so he broke-of a piece into his own National-religion. Finally, a few of our ansesstors “had-enough“ and with the promis of ”the new world” lands, we had enough “distance” to help defeat them from ruening our lives, too(1775–Paul Revere’s ride). The rest of the “world” couldn’t wait to finally destroy us. Running a proffitable country without killing millions and without being “slaves to some KING” was just NOT DONE!! WE would ruin all their forever-false claims that “You can not do anything without ME-the-King system.”… “you can not talk to GOD without Me-the-King system.”

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    • OMBrandon
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 11:45am

      It is a sad affair that so many can be lost in the ignorance and bent on the disheartening attack on faith and the church.

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    • thecid100
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 12:13pm

      Wow! What an ignorant buffoon! Over a billion people on this planet are suckers, but you are the wise one who will preach to us out of your deep well of total ignorance, Ralphie. Please take yourself back under whatever rock you crawled out of and shut your ignorant yap.

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    • John655
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 3:39pm

      Well, I’m hoping to see you all in Heaven, even those who attack my faith. And those who honestly question the Church, I ask you to ponder how a “man-made-religion” could produce so many saints and be the world’s largest chartiable orgaization? If you have questions try reading the catechism instead of a Chick track.

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    • BIgWheeler
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 4:12pm

      Somebody got a little too much personal attention as a child… If you know what I mean.

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    • chucksue351
      Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:55am

      i would like to put you in a fox hole in the midst of the worst fighting the world has ever seen and you would try and find something that would make sense of it all, in all likilhood you would either trust in the true Master of the universe or you would invent your own, but either way you would try and find something of real truth, Yeshua is the Way the Truth and the Light!

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    • politicianssuck
      Posted on May 28, 2012 at 9:03am

      @RALPIE

      You said “Everything that we associate with religion is imaginary”. Does that include your religion? Yes, you not “believing” in GOD is a religion. You can’t prove or disprove there is no GOD so therefore you are acting on “faith” in believing there is no GOD. Therefore you are practicing a religion.

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 3:42am

      It saddens me, but I’ve come to the conclusion, from prior postings related to other stories involving the Roman Catholic Church, that no matter how eloquent things will be said in defense of the Church, it will be of no consequence to those who have no inclination to listen with an open heart. The only thing we can do is fast and pray for All Christian Churches to be able to praise and honor the Lord God as they see fit without denigrating other faith expressions. The time is coming when we’ll be unable to freely worship. The Church is Jesus Christ’s. It is His to defend (can’t contemplate better person to do so) when He comes, which will be in our generation. All I can do is fast and pray for all, sinners and righteous alike, to hear the call of the Lord, confess, and convert before it is to late. Gather your oil lamps and flasks of oil, for the Bridegroom is approaching!

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  • RedMage
    Posted on May 27, 2012 at 2:45am

    Some of you are quite amazing in your narrow-mindedness and unwillingness to find out truths for yourself instead of listening to propoganda put out against the Catholic Church. My dad was a big, strong man, afraid of almost nothing…except the Catholic Church. He had been so indoctrinated with horror stories that he actually would not walk on the same side of the street of any Catholic Church out of real fear. He thought all kinds of bazaar things – it makes me laugh, but he was dead serious. He came to realize, of course, through his wife and 5 kids living their faith, how he had been so deceived by people who hated Catholics.

    So maybe what you think you know is simply what you have been directed to know by an agenda-driven force that has no problem misleading you. This is not an easy job these days with so much misinformation out there. Sorting truth from lies is a full time job anymore. But don‘t you owe it to yourself to know what’s real and what’s not?

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 6:00am

      I’ll never go back.The are a robber of the souls of men.They contradict the bible from A-Z.

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 6:24am

      Graven images and bowing before them. Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.Acts 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 6:25am

      The Priest are called Father regardless of what Jesus spoke. Matt 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 6:26am

      The teaching that Mary was a perpetual virgin and without original sin is in direct contradiction to the scriptures. Matthew 1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.(The word “knew” means to know someone in a sexual way.) She had other sons and daughters that were not miraculously conceived as Christ was. Galations 1:19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord’s brother.

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 6:32am

      The term “Easter” is from the fertility goddess Ishtar worshipped by pagans.
      The birth of Christ was not Dec 25th.(Christ was born on the Feast of Tabernacles which falls The teaching that the Mass actually turns the wafer and the wine into the body and blood of Christ is heresy. Confessing sins to a Priest and asking him to forgive you is contrary to the scriptures.1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. The teaching of purgatory is unbiblical.
      The Pope is the “Vicar of Christ” (meaning; Christ on Earth) is a man-made teaching.
      Praying the Rosary is not Biblical.
      Praying to Saints is unfounded in the scripture.(True believers are the Saints according to the Bible.)
      Sprinkling of infants and calling it Baptism is unscriptural.Rantizo is the greek word for sprinkle.Baptism means to dip, plunge, envelope and is left inits greek form (Baptizo).It represents burial.

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    • DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 6:48am

      Yeshua is Messiah. “jesus” is the image of the beast(office of the pope). Rome is Babylon, the mother of harlots(pagan christian churches).

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    • G-WHIZ
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 11:12am

      In “olden-times” false-catholics and non’s were torchered ,and/or burnned-at-the-stake…the “leader” of the church was also your earthly-Human-King. Anyone found trying to talk to God without HIM was dealeted! Mel Brooks did a parrody of this time in history….Even this parody (to me) was not funny…it gave me chills! First they came for the catholics….next they came for the jews….and NOW, THEY COME FOR ALL NEW-WORLD-THINKING [BOTH]!! And when we are 100%-gone, who will have any “goodness-of-heart”-left to help out in the worlds’ dissassters??

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    • OMBrandon
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 1:41pm

      Bomustgo: Is is clear that you harbor a terrific resentment toward the church. However you were wronged or by whatever means you came to resent the churc, your experience is tragic and unfortunate. I pray that you be healed and find a satisfying relationship with God. Your words regarding the faith are ignorant and completely devoid of any factual foundation. All you need do us read the bible and you will find the answers to your baseless points.

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    • by faith
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 5:40pm

      Bomustgo
      Many non-Catholic Christians use the passage you refer to, Exodus 20:4-5, to “prove” to Catholics that making “any graven images or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath” is detestable to God. But when this passage is read in context, it is not the making of images that is condemned but the worship of them.
      In fact, five chapters later God commands the Israelites to make two golden statues of angels as part of the lid of the Ark of the Covenant (Ex 25:17-19). That’s an image of something from heaven. Then, in 1 Kings 6, God commands that graven images of flowers and palm trees be made, as well as 15-foot tall statues of cherubim. And in Numbers 21, God commands that a bronze serpent be made and uses it to heal the Israelites. It was preserved for 800 years and then destroyed when some began to worship it (2 Kgs 18:4).
      Catholics do not worship statues, because only God is deserving of adoration. The Catechism of the Catholic Church is adamant in affirming this (CCC 2112–2114). When a Catholic bows to a statue, he is not worshiping it any more than King Solomon worshiped Bathsheba when he bowed to her in 1 Kings 2:19. In other words, the honor given to images does not detract from the honor that is due to God. After all, if one member of the body is honored, the others should share in its joy (1 Cor 12:26).

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    • by faith
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 5:42pm

      If someone enters your house, he should expect to find a picture of your mother. So, when someone walks into a Catholic Church—the household of God—he should not be surprised to find a picture of the mother of God, along with the rest of the heavenly family!
      In giving the Israelites a beautiful temple strewn with images (1 Kgs 6), God acknowledged the reason why he gave us our senses: to use them to worship him in spirit and truth.
      Lets see if how you handle this explanation, before I take the time to answer your other comments

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    • by faith
      Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:56am

      Jesus said, “And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven” (Matt. 23:9). Several sentences later he said, “Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers” (Matt. 23:32). So clearly verse 9 was not meant to be a prohibition against the use of the word “father” for anyone other than the first person of the trinity.
      Paul also referred to other of his converts: “To Titus, my true child in a common faith: grace and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior” (Titus 1:4); “I appeal to you for my child, Onesimus, whose father I have become in my imprisonment” (Philem. 10). None of these men were Paul’s literal, biological sons. Rather, Paul is emphasizing his spiritual fatherhood with them.
      Peter followed the same custom, referring to Mark as his son: “She who is at Babylon, who is likewise chosen, sends you greetings; and so does my son Mark” (1 Pet. 5:13). The apostles sometimes referred to entire churches under their care as their children.
      Jesus is not against Spiritual Fatherhood. It is he who gave these men their role as spiritual fathers, and it is his Holy Spirit who recorded this role for us in the pages of Scripture. To acknowledge spiritual fatherhood is to acknowledge the truth, and no amount of anti-Catholic grumbling will change that fact.

      BOmustgo, if you were born Catholic, baptised Catholic, went to Catholic school… Even though you did not learn what it means to be Catholic, you are STILL a Catholic

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  • conservativewoman
    Posted on May 27, 2012 at 12:19am

    I see some of you Catholic haters are out tonight. I love the comment from Bomustgo. He is supposedly spirit-filled, yet he calls the Pope evil. I am just wondering what KIND OF SPIRIT he is filled with?
    I have a suspicion Bo’s comment is all about justifying his decision to leave his Catholic faith (which he never really knew much about anyway.) That is okay with me. I know Jesus is just pruning the weak branches.

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 2:00am

      Really now? I now have a love for the truth. the Spirit leads and guides you to truth. There is no truth in the RCC,I am justified by the blood of the lamb.He called me out of darkness and into his light.Obey Acts 2:38 (It’s what Peter taught on the day of Pentecost).

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 2:25am

      I was born into Cathloicism, went to Catholic school for the second grade, went to CDC classes…God called me out of that man-made mess.Yes I have studied it and it greatly contradicts the scriptures.

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 2:33am

      http://www.s8int.com/strossmayer.html

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  • shorthanded12
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 11:12pm

    Was he a State Departments MOLE?
    Sounds to me another secret New World order scheme to oust a Leader an in this case The Pope that dont fit into there agenda.
    But yet they havnt been able to oust that nut job running Syria.
    Just saying!!!!!!!!

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    • G-WHIZ
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 10:47am

      I thought only [English buttlers] did-it!!

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  • vampiric aristocracy
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 10:45pm

    I am a true Christian of no denomination.
    organized institutionalized spirituality is a business.

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  • Juniemoon
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 10:39pm

    Constantine’s Sword, watch it on Netflix, Catholics and then go read what your church fathers said about Jews. Replacement theology ain’t replacing his chosen people, the Jews.

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  • Juniemoon
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 10:37pm

    Constantines Sword, watch on Netflix Catholics. Then read what your church fathers said about the Jews. Replacement theology ain’t happening.

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  • The Third Archon
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 10:03pm

    The Catholic church simply doing what all religions have always done–suppress dissent.

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  • epicwinofgod
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 8:57pm

    “It’s Coming Down” by Cake comes to mind when I read this.

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    • rickc34
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 9:28pm

      I wonder if they still have some toys left over from the dark ages. This guy wil pray for water boarding.

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  • Tellthetruth01
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 8:49pm

    God will reveal all wickedness. There is nothing that will not be uncovered.

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    • rickc34
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 9:25pm

      Hey how much the Butler workd for Soros and goed Golfing with Obama. Perfect timeing. Huh. Discredit and confuse your enemy. Obama’s enemy is the church.

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    • MCDAVE
      Posted on May 28, 2012 at 1:58am

      @RICK I think you nailed it….The Pope understands the new world order and how dangerous they are..communists are the arch enemy of the Catholic church

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  • Tellthetruth01
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 8:47pm

    God is the reveal-er of all wickedness. There is nothing that will not be uncovered.

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  • Publius
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 7:27pm

    “…and the gates of hell shall not prevail”

    Jesus was telling us that there would be challenges.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 7:38pm

      Satanic Challenges… where through the Gates come Minions & Demons!

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 8:58pm

      Gates of Hell??? Hell means “the grave.” The Grave will not triumph over a Spirit filled believer. With the Spirit infilling, you have resurrection power.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 12:38am

      @BOM…
      In Catholicism… Cardinal means Hinge (of a Gate)… alike a Gate Keeper in other Ancient Religions, where the Gate Keeper is empowered with Spells to control a Gate to the Abyss, wherein Spirits, Evil & Good, exist. This concept was take from the Priestly Duities of the Roman Temples, where Christianity was first introduced as another Temple in Rome… and where the title Pope derives from Pontifex Maximus, meaning High Priest!

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  • CoyoteDKM
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 7:11pm

    Don’t think this is related to all the attacks on religious freedom in the US and all the lawsuits the Catholic church has filed against the obama admin? Think again. Amazing that the same people who were probably behind this scandal have gotten the MSM to mock the incident and twist it to say that the Vatican is the group that is corrupt. This is outsiders who compete with that church setting up a way to attack yet another religion, so they can replace it with a new thought control mechanism of their own.

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  • Maxim Crux
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 6:54pm

    The King of Bling

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 7:32pm

      And… which MultiNational Organization… that pays Wages, collects Funds, and makes Donations… do you Direct?

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  • tharpdevenport
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 6:16pm

    About two/three months ago on the radio show, Glenn talked a little bit about a plan from within the Vatican, to assassinate the Pope, in the next year or two. What’s happening on that?

    There is real evil forming around us.

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    • iampraying4u
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 8:08pm

      The roman catholic church is the best man made religion in the world

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  • Arcangel Michael
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 3:00pm

    Jesus, I trust in You

    http://thedivinemercy.org/message/devotions/chaplethistory.php

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AySdEJx50Z0&feature=related

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  • Mother of JZS
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 2:38pm

    my son dresses like this man he looks so cute in his pope pajamas

    Love,
    Your Mother

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    • quiet little lamb
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 2:55pm

      the pope has a butler? whatta ***

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 3:19pm

      Oh, JZS… and your Mother dresses you Funny!

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    • KOCHLEFFEL
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 5:33pm

      MOM OF JZS,
      Your son must be a drag queen, is that right?

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    • Mother of JZS
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 9:14pm

      Dagnabit you stuped Mr Koch Leffel

      My sonny boy may be a drag and a queen but hes no drag queen. He loves his pope pajamas and looks so cute in them. Now go away Mr Bad Man and bother some other mom.

      Love,
      Your Mother

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  • BOMUSTGO
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 2:10pm

    The pope looks so evil…

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 2:12pm

      http://www.unsoughtinput.com/index.php/2006/12/27/pope-benedict-or-emperor-palpatine/

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    • WhatDoYouKnowJoe
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 2:39pm

      @BoMustGo

      Your comment is blasphemous and completely uncalled for. If you knew how loving that man is, you would be asking, no begging God for mercy for your comment. You do not care about truth. You cannot tell what is evil and what is good. You hide behind a moniker so you can slander anonymously with having to face any discomfort for your actions. It is in entirely obligatory that you make a public apology for your slander.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 3:13pm

      @WHATDOYOUKNOWJO In reference to BOMUSTGO..what will your answer be to God when He asks you what you were doing in a church that is guilty of idolatry? 1Cor 6:9 says that idolators will not enter into the kingdom of heaven..I have seen innumerable depictions of the pope being the false prophet and the Catholic Church being the Whore of Babyon..bringing all the religions together..she has created Islam via the Pope and she has created the Zionists..(the Communists) via the Jesuit Preists.. the Catholic church is the tool of Satan.. so who are you getting on your knees too?

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 3:17pm

      I am not here to Defend a Pope… but look at what the Catholic Church as given the World in 1,200 years… compared to Socialism in 100 years! Count the Murdered as Sins!

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 3:39pm

      @LUKERW Have you seen this video Luke? It is the most compelling video that I have seen to date.
      Please watch very carefully to the very end.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcSM4dNMCPk

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 4:08pm

      @ASHES…
      This is a complex issue, where the Founding Fathers adopted that the State shall not be involved in Religion! ISLAM is a Theocrary of Caliphate State & Muslim Religion; ZIONISM is a Theocracy of Israeli State & Judaism; and the Eastern Roman Empire & Holy Roman Empires were Theocracies of State & Christianity. The British Empire was a Theocrarcy of English King as State & head of the Church.

      The American Genius was in… Prohibiting any Theocracy… and rejecting the previous forms!

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 4:30pm

      @LUKE The Vatican has had a hand in it all Luke..she created the religion of Islam to raise an army to take Jerusalem for the Vatican City..for the killing of Prostestant Christians and Jews..and protection of Augustinian Monks and Priests..the Vatican tried laying her hands on Jerusalems holy sites again last summer http://www.remnantofgod.org/books/docs/How-the-Vatican-Created-Islam.pdf and http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/150757
      The Jesuits created the Zionists..they are from Jewish heritage..but they are secularists and atheists.bent on taking the world through domination http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=58392.0
      This is how the torah abiding Jews feel about them ..they blame them for the Holocaust.and for their trouble with Muslims.. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1506.htm
      I have seen Christians post that the Vatican was head of the First Reictch..Hiter was a Zionist..Karl Marx was a Zionist..the Vatican is not guiltless but I believe she is the one spoken of in Revelations.

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 8:56pm

      It’s OK Joe, I’m an X-Catholic. Now Spirit filled and know the truth.Obey Acts 2:38.

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    • Dudley Do-Right
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 9:01pm

      The papacy started Islam, lol! Keep reading those comic books Ashes!

      http://www.chick.com/catalog/comics/0117.asp

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 9:49pm

      @DUDLEY DO RIGHT Hey Dudley..i went to your site..didn’t find any comic books..now you should read mine.. http://www.remnantofgod.org/books/docs/How-the-Vatican-Created-Islam.pdf
      There were several attempts made on his life.he came to my city and spoke at a Baptist Church and shortly after was poisoned..he died.. If you read this article..it tells how the Vatican created Islam and that they had raised such a mighty in Islam and Islam wanted Europe..the Pope said no and raised his own army to fight them back..This little war was the 2 thousand year Crusades in which millions of Protestant Christians were murdered and millions of Bibles burned to keep the truth from the Roman Catholics and the Muslims..towards the end..when Islam had taken Portugal and wanted Spain but was running out of manpower..they negotiated with St Francis of Sisissi to let each others mosques and churches reside in each others countries without fear of being attacked..as it is today..Obama atteneded St. Francis of Sisissi Catholic School in Indonesia as well as the strict Madrassa of his choosing according to his biographies.

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    • Dudley Do-Right
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 10:17pm

      For some reason the Blaze won’t let me post a link called, “The Nightmare World Of Jack T Chick” Perhaps someone else can? At any rate I urge all to google up this webpage to see for yourself what a con man Alberto Rivera was.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 11:19pm

      @DUDLEY I have read up on all of that..I would never live in the world of the Catholic Church..You live totally in their world and cannot think for yourself..their bible..their publications..everything theirs theirs theirs..they were big on Mary worship and still are and pray to “saints’ and to Mary..and didn’t even give Jesus credit until Martin Luther in the 15th century..Maybe you should read about idolatry in a New King James version..1 Cor 6:9 THe Catholic church is big into that..As for the Alberto Rivera..he was an ex-Jesuit Preist who after becoming Christianized relayed the story..after several attempts on his life was poisoned..the Catholic Church did their best to discredit him..After the history of the Catholic Church..with blood on their hands for the murder of millions..I find it amuzing that you and others like you don’t see through them..A lot of people have come out of her..possibly saving their very souls..Good Luck..

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 11:51pm

      @ASHES…
      At the time of Mohammed, the Koran inventor, let’s say 610-632 ad… the Christian, Eastern, Roman Empire ruled the Middle East… and the expansion of Islam was an opposition to that rule… where Jerusalem was lost in 636 ad,,, which continued until the Capital of Constantinople was Conquered 1453 ad… and the Vatican did not exist until 800 ad, under the Holy, Western, Roman Empire.

      None of this History fits with the idea that the Vatican created Islam.

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    • Dudley Do-Right
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 7:31am

      How to denigrate two religions in one fell swoop! I‘m on my way to Mass right now and can’t wait to receive “The Death Cookie.” I’ll pray for you when I worship Mary with my Rosary!

      http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0074/0074_01.asp

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 8:52am

      @LUKE As you know Luke..Papal Rome has had a succession of Popes..The Catholic Church herself believes that Peter was the first Pope..The religion of Islam itself is believed to have been founded around 622 AD Now no one really knows the time frames of all of this coming into being..but it is all very logical. Arguing over the the year the Vatican was created is like arguing over Jesse Ventura being a Underwater Demolitions Expert or a Navy Seal being they have converged to all being Seals..But one cannot deny that the Papal Rome slaughtered millions of Christians and burned millions of Bibles to keep the truth from the Muslims and the Roman Catholics..In Rivera’s stated goals of the Vatican in the first place..was the takeover of Jerusalem..and as for them being at odds with Islam..of course they were..this is all in the link..how the vatican created islam.. Heres a link to the blood on her hands. http://rekindlingthereformation.com/RTR-Articles-Papal-Rome-Timeline.html
      If you will notice in the video the Ronthchilds..who they answer to..it is the Vatican..Evelyn Rothchild’s estimated worth is 500 trillion..He sets the gold standard every day..He holds the Vatican’s gold.. Papal Rome.whore of babylon.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGTbfQObdxI

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    • Dudley Do-Right
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 10:41am

      Alberto Rivera…HEH

      http://www.thebibleistheotherside.org/lettersp10.htm

      http://www.evangelizationstation.com/Pamphlets/386%20Alberto%20Rivera.pdf

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  • BatesclanMary
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 1:59pm

    Read this book AA-1025 The Memoirs of An Anti-Apostle by Marie Carre it will explain everything that is happening at the Vatican.

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  • moussiagilda
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 1:41pm

    How freaking wonderful.

    Could Benedict look any more like the devil? But he ain’t. He’s just a racist-sexist-bigot-homophobe.

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 2:00pm

      http://bongonews.com/layout1.php?event=1811

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    • WhatDoYouKnowJoe
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 2:31pm

      @moussiagilda

      +JMJ+

      Your comment is blasphemy and calumny rolled into one. It is completely uncalled for and absolutely untrue. The Pope is The Vicar of Christ on earth, and is a most holy man. He cares more than you are able to understand for those who are suffering and those would include anyone with same sex attractions. He receives millions of prayers everyday including mine. While on earth, good and evil will always coexist and their are some that are trying to undermine his work. Catholic teaching happens to be completely true. May God have mercy on you for what you have said.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 3:12pm

      Just more Nihilism… from an Iconoclast!

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 4:07pm

      @WHATDAYAKNOWJO Yeah..I am so sure that the Pope is the Vicar of Christ here on earth..I think that might be blasphemy..The church was not built upon the foundation of Peter.but upon the foundation of Jesus Christ Himself..Christ did not come to earth to glorify Peter. In Revelations..it says that the antichrist will sit in the temple calling Himself God..and many will be fooled..many believe that the Pope will be the anti-Christ..but many believe that He is the false prophet..the Christians did not get their Bible from the Catholics.
      Roman Catholics often say that it was their church that gave us the Bible. They sometimes claim this when defending their “Sacred Tradition” so that they might support extra-biblical teachings such as purgatory, penance, indulgences, and Mary worship. They often say the only way the Christian church knew what books are to be included in the Canon of Scripture was because it was revealed by word-of-mouth in the early church; that is, by the tradition of the Catholic Church.
      Unfortunately, this argument implies that tradition is superior to Scripture. Of course, we are not saying that the Roman Catholic church teaches that tradition is above Scripture. But when Sacred Tradition is claimed to be the thing by which Scripture is given, then tradition is inadvertently the thing that gives blessing and approval to the Bible. Heb. 7:7 says, “But without any dispute the lesser is blessed by the greater.” The unfortunate psychological effect

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 4:09pm

      of saying that Roman Catholic tradition is what gave us the Bible, is that it elevates their tradition to a level far greater than what is permitted in Scripture. In fact, it is contradicted by scripture:

      “Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively applied to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that in us you might learn not to exceed what is written, in order that no one of you might become arrogant in behalf of one against the other,” (1 Cor. 4:6).
      The Bible tells us to obey the Word of God, to not go beyond the written Word, so that we might not make mistakes in what is true. Unfortunately, the problem with an elevated status of Roman Catholic church tradition is that it results in various justifications of it’s non-biblical teachings such as prayer to Mary, purgatory, indulgences, penance, works of righteousness, etc. Because it has deviated from trusting God’s Word alone, it has ventured into unscriptural areas. Nevertheless, did the Roman Catholic Church give us the Bible? No, it did not.

      First of all, the Roman Catholic Church was not really in effect as an organization in the first couple hundred years of the Christian Church. The Christian church was under persecution and official church gatherings were risky business in the Roman Empire. Catholicism as an organization with a central figure located in Rome did not occur for quite some time, in spite of its claim they can trace the papacy back to Peter.

      Second, the Christian Church recognized

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    • WhatDoYouKnowJoe
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 7:01pm

      @Ashes

      +JMJ+

      In answer to all your responses.

      see

      a bible translator

      http://www.catholicplanet.com

      and

      http://www.scripturecatholic.com

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    • moussiagilda
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 12:34am

      Whatdoyouknowjoe, don‘t you realize that we’re on the same side?

      That the hell we have gone through over the last 2,000 years is because of the false teachings of the church, which only claims, falsely, to be the representative of Christ?

      That even the saints, as great as they were/are, were led astray by church teachings, by false translations?

      I’m not sending you to hell. You can stay out of hell. But it sounds like you’re still there.

      Ashestoashes, thank you so damn much.

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    • BIgWheeler
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 4:22pm

      Bomustgo, do you realize that “article” is prefaced by the phrase “Satire. Parody. Jokes.”? Do you get your military news from Beatle Baily? Or maybe you look to Marmaduke for information on pet ownership.

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  • lukerw
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 1:35pm

    STRANGE TIMING: Just when the US Government and Catholic Church are in Oppositon… this happens.

    Socialists… tend to be unusually Lucky!

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    • chips1
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 6:48pm

      Can you believe that Lucifer’s final play is a “Hail Mary” pass? The game is for your soul.

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  • chips1
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 1:04pm

    Father Malichi Martin told of the corruption in the Church. My question is, Why is there so much secrecy in any church? Why are so many things kept from the Faithful? I believe Faith itself is the correct religion. Each church tells it’s followers that theirs is the only correct one, yet if God is the Creator, why would He produce natives in the remote jungles of the world knowing that they have no chance at Heaven? It just doesn’t add up. You can’t have it both ways. People may be different, but souls are the same. Your beliefs are all that you have. Spend them wisely.

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  • NHwinter
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 12:54pm

    I’m sure a lot of communists have infiltrated the Vatican. I hope this Pope is cleaning house and will be transparent about their finances.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 1:04pm

      The Vatican… is a State: you are Dreaming; you cannot see the Books of the US Federal Reserve!

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    • G-WHIZ
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 10:57am

      All the other “Popes” have just sheeply followed man-made doctrin. This guy is the most out-spoken and active(for us regular folks) pope we hae seen in many lifetimes. I am not Catlik, but I like this guy!! He’s trying to slogg-through their burocracy, and fix a few things-much-needed. He is now “old” and not many years-left has he. I hope his changes are not errased by the next one in their theocracy-laced system.

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  • IMCHRISTIAN
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 12:45pm

    Moral and ethics should be followed by all whether a Pope, President, Employee etc. in other words all who breathe life and care what God thinks.

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    • JGraham III
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 1:50pm

      Unfortunately, the history of Europe is the history of the Roman Catholic Church’s quest for temporal power, and since it as any other church is comprised of human beings, they too are subject to all the sins that are “common to Man”. Leaders all the more so. The Lord said, “he who would be chief among you must be servant of all”. It also warned to beware of those who would become ‘lords over God’s heritage.” Rome long ago left off being servant of all and chose the latter path.
      I hope that all the RC‘s won’t think I’m picking on them only, because all churches suffer from the same problems. The very heirarchical structure of denominations is in my opinion anti-believer. It should be “fellowlaborers” and “workers together with Christ” and not the pyramid scheme that has been forced on Christianity.

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    • WhatDoYouKnowJoe
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 2:50pm

      @J Graham

      +JMJ+

      If you going to make a blanket comment about the history of Europe and the RCC, then I would also read the letters of the early church fathers as to what they believed(early 2nd century). Jesus, himself founded the church and The Catholics have done major spiritual good throughout the centuries for the salvation and welfare of mankind. The Bible comes from the Catholics, The Priesthood of The Jews prefigures the apostolic priesthood of the RCC. Why do people on earth expect that every Catholic is going to present themselves as a saint like example? Should a church have no sinners. If you were able to talk to the late Bishop Fulton J. Sheen, or Mother Theresa of Calcutta, they would straighten out your heretical thinking in a jiff.

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    • JGraham III
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 9:26pm

      @Whatdoyouknow
      I wasn’t aware in my post that I said that no good ever came from the RCC, and I certainly would never fault the works of someone like Mother Theresa but I do take exception to a few things you have said, namely, 1) that the RCC gave us the Bible. By my educational background the canon of Scripture was essentially established by the time Constantine ‘converted’, well before the emergence of what is now known as the RCC. There is good evidence to show that the Letters of Paul were set in the order (canon) they are always found by Paul himself. The Catholic Bible does contain books that are not recognised by your Protestant brothers and sisters but who is a heretic and who is not is defined by the one making the charge. Secondly, as concerning the priesthood, which you call apostolic, no where do any of the apostles establish a “priesthood” that even remotely resembles the heirarchy currently in use by the RCC. The NT does make references to the “doctrine of the Nicolaitans” found in Rev 2:6 and Rev 2:15 and concerns the re-establishing of a priesthood when no such intermediary is required. Incidentally the Lord says emphatically that the deeds and doctrines of the Nicolaitans he “hates”. I reject the need for a priest to confess to or otherwise monitor my Christian walk. This is the “lords over God’s heritage” that I referenced previously. I am accountable to all believers as they are to me. If that makes me heretic, then I wear the name proudly.

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    • Ralpie
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 8:50am

      Your Jesus did not profess starting a Church…he wanted to continue the Jewish religion because HE WAS A JEW…It was Paul years later that started the Church….Your Church is a work of fiction by Paul not Jesus!

      Paul had some drunken vision and decided it was a good way to make money duping all you people…

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    • JGraham III
      Posted on May 27, 2012 at 12:19pm

      @Ralphie:
      Au contraire! Jesus said in Mt 16:18 that “upon this Rock I will build my church”. He didn’t come to extend the Law (jewish religion) but to fulfill it. Sorry chum but I’m not buying what you say. Furthermore your tirades against those of Faith will not end its spread. More capable and more powerful people have tried throughout the ages but all have failed. Jesus went on to say in Mt 16 that “the gates of Hell would not prevail against” His church, which of course you say he didn’t say…
      Feel free to not believe whatever you wish, after all it still is a free (enough) country where you can do this, but allow those of us who want to believe the freedom to do so.

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  • RayOne
    Posted on May 26, 2012 at 12:24pm

    This does not stand up to the Borgies.

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    • bjdeverell
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 12:46pm

      Tell me about it. Alexander woulda never put up w/ that ****. Or at least it would have provided us w/ a lot better reading material.

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