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The Depressing Jobs Chart That Puts the Numbers in Perspective
- Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:14am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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Last week, the jobs report had many excited: unemployment hit a two-year low. Then we brought you a chart and fact that showed while the numbers were good, there’s still a long way to go. Now, here’s another one of those charts from Gregor.us via Business Insider.
“Of course, the structural problem of America’s labor market is unchanged, because of population growth during that same time period,” writes Gregor MacDonald. “At current rates of ‘jobs growth’ it would take until 2016 to regain the employment highs of 2006-2007.”
Here‘s the chart that shows what he’s talking about:
Read more here, as well as see a bonus chart about California’s dismal unemployment.
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RightPolitically
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 10:37amI am sure that by election time 2012 government figures will show that Obama is a genius and did everything just right! Count on it…..
Report Post »Liberalismsamentaldisorder
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 10:24am@texascommansense
Wow, you‘re telling me I can’t read the chart? Are your eyes actually open? Yep, 2010 and 2011 are upwards, but still haven’t even reached 2009 WHEN HE TOOK OFFICE. Notice the upslope from 2003-2007, when repubs held congress. Dems take over and we move sideways one year, then tank. Keep spinning texas, but the numbers don’t lie.
Report Post »Liberalismsamentaldisorder
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 10:33amooops, check that….
@THESOURCE…
Report Post »thesource
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 10:57am@LIBERALISMSAMENTALDISORDER draw some trend lines. Bush’s trend line down, Obama’s trend line is up. Same thing with stocks. Check out the Dow.
Report Post »Liberalismsamentaldisorder
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 11:07amHoly cow, do you have your monitor upside down? Bush was president from 2002-2008. Except for slight meandering, the line is straight up. Can you see the line from 2008-2011? Can you read the numbers? Over 146 mil employed when he left office, under 140 mil employed now. How do you spin that in Obama’s favor?
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 11:51amLiberalismsamentaldisorder, thanks for the check. I’m on your side.
Report Post »Marine Recon Dad
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 10:19amWhat good is this chart…. since Liberals control the public school system, graphs like this have gone out the window. Unless you put these numbers to a (c)rap song, a reality TV show, or some teen magazine, no one out there will understand it unless they are ‘old’ like you and I….. sad
Report Post »5410amh
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 10:11amThe real unemployment rate is around 17 to 20% it’s that high when you factor in the under employed and the people who are already employed but looking for more work. The reason the umemployment rate is at 8,8% is because the obozo adminstation is measuring the rate by counting the number of people who sign up for unemployment benefits. So if you don’t sign up they count you as employed. REMEMBER PEOPLE NO INCUMBENT PRESIDENT HAS EVER BEEN REELECTED WITH UNEMPLOYMENT OVER 8%.
Report Post »hrandym
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:53amSocialism and Communism are siblings. Both take over control of a Nation’s wealth and in doing so, the people as well. Numerous lessons are available in history of this phenomenon that have been supplanted by multiculturalism studies, black studies, etc., unfortunately. Joe McCarthy tried to expose Communists a long time ago, and look what happened to him. They actually destroyed him and hastened his death. If the Communists were that strong then, how strong do you think they are now? You can throw “Progressives” in the same sewer as the Communists: both are leading us down the same path. Stop demonizing McCarthy and learn what happened. And who were his subjects of inquiry? Why, Hollywood and Academia. Small wonder.
Our wonderful Nation is a product of Western Civilization, not Africa, Asia or other external cultures. We must realize that and further improve on a civilization that has weathered a very tortuous evolution to arrive at this amazing United States and its Founding Documents. Far too few people are aware of how this culture and Nation came about. They need to know lest it be destroyed. Its destruction is in process: be aware.
Report Post »thesource
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 10:32am@HRANDYM socialism and communism is used in the media as a smoke screen currently. Less so in the past. I am sure the founding fathers didn’t envision all the lobbyist we have today. One reason the republicans love tax cuts for the wealthy because the corporations pay their campaigns etc want it that way. There are other reasons like job growth but this is secondary imho. Same with global warming for democrates, lobbyist give them money to campaign on this etc. It goes on and on. It happens with the media too. Can’t really trust them. What is really going to bring this country down is the difference between the wealthy and the poor. It just keeps getting wider and wider. This I don’t understand. The middle class is getting crushed and they don’t have a backbone to do anything about it.
Report Post »Liberalismsamentaldisorder
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 11:16am@thesource
Check your sources, Corporations have given far, far more to democrats than they have republicans. You won‘t here that on CNN or the lamestream because it doesn’t fit their beliefs.
Report Post »Liberalismsamentaldisorder
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 11:17amarrgghh …..hear*
Report Post »JLP188
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 12:59pmSource, what Obama is doing is not going to help close the gap between the rich and the poor, it will only grow the gap even greater. There are too many examples in history; practically any quasi or pure socialist or communist state consists of the ultra rich and the masses. Redistributing wealth with higher taxes and social programs takes away any incentive to start a new business or grow an existing business which creates jobs. Therefore the folks with their hands stuck out waiting for the government handout will just continue waiting for payday by sitting at home watching Jerry Springer, and that number is growing despite what the Obama administration is telling everyone. I want to control my own future without the government stepping in at every turn to take away my profits and in turn taking away another job I may be able to provide. For every dollar I use to create a job, the government will take the dollar and waste 90 cents of it before it ever reaches a payroll check. This guy Obama has WRECKED our nation’s economy and ruined our standing in the world, and soon he will crater the dollar. Then we are screwed!! We have a hell of a hole to crawl out of and all he can do is dig it deeper.
I actually feel sorry for the guy, Obama. He is in WAY over his head!! Any one of us could do better than what he has done. He was so UNDERqualified to be POTUS it isn’t even funny. He hasn’t learned a thing in his term.
Report Post »thesource
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:39am@HRANDYM good point. Don’t disagree. It really isn’t about dems vs. republicans though. They represent the same thing. They both shipped out jobs overseas. It has been a crime.
Report Post »hrandym
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:56amNo disagreement here. Thanks for the reply. It’s nice to get a decent reply: one that adds to the discussion.
Report Post »Liberalismsamentaldisorder
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 10:29amThe biggest reason for jobs going overseas isn’t dem or repub. It’s cost. The number one cost in virtually any business? Labor. Unions helped end unsafe work environs, child labor and were a general good. They helped solve most of the pressing labor issues of our society. Now the job is done and all they have left to do is extort contracts from companies that make them uncompetitive, and the solution? Move the factory where the over-weighted unions aren’t. It’s not complicated.
Report Post »hrandym
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 10:38amMostly all good comments. Good to view opinions, particularly the ones I like. I learn from both liked and not liked.
Report Post »umreb78
Posted on April 5, 2011 at 5:15pmOf all your posts Source, I have found one thing we agree on….Both the R‘s and the D’s (at least the “establishments” of both parties) are equally corrupt. They both need to go….This is a battle not between Rs and D’s, but between America hating Progressives and American Conservatives. A long time R, I am no longer affiliated with either party. Dunderheads like John McCain and Lindsey Graham are equally as disgustingly Progressive as Hllary Clinton and Chucky Schumer. I omit Obama becauser he’s not merely Progressive he is just plain anti-American and King Harry because he’s just an addled old moron. In NOvember of last year, the MSM shouted that the TEA Party candidates would be hijacking the Rs…I told everyone who would listen that it was the TPers who would take over the R party. I still depsise them both, but the Ds are just so arrogant and profoundly stupid, that until a viable third party is capable of winning the “Battle of the Bucks” and, hence, national elections, I’ll have to stay more aligned with the Rs. With God’s help. though, we will steadily put all the establishment Rs and D’s out to pasture and keep them away from all decent himan beings.
Report Post »rightwingheroes
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:36amWow looks like we were doing so good under GW Bush until..wait for it…wait for it…
DEMOCRATS TOOK CONTROL OF CONGRESS IN 2007
All downhill from there and the rest is history.
HOPE AND CHANGE
Report Post »hrandym
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:34amSee “THESOURCE”, Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:45am. “It looks like the chart says that when Obama became president jobs have been up and continue to climb. I guess many here can’t read a chart!!! Bush screwed it up!!”
You will find out soon that employment is a very small part of the problem. A very large part is the bankruptcy of our Nation. What good is a job if your money is worthless? What good is a job if the major portion of your so-called income is confiscated in taxes? What good is a job if you can receive as much money for not working? I would hope our Nation would wake up to this reality. The Tea Party has (mostly). We’re in a deep hole.
Report Post »thesource
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:32am@HAUSCHILD what did I state that you did not like? I am not a progressive. I am not big on Obama. I am an independent.
Report Post »thesource
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:30am@TEXASCOMMONSENSE when Bush left office we lost around 800,000 jobs that month. We just gained 216,000 in March 2011. Seems like a turnaround to me.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 11:42amA net loss of 2 million jobs from January 2009 to the present. ‘nuf said.
Report Post »teresa2010
Posted on April 5, 2011 at 2:04am800,000 jobs were lost the month of November …. When Obama was elected… Had nothing to do with Bush, but who got newly elected…Business people knew he was a Tax and Spend Jackass
This is a Employment chart….Stupid…Employment was awesome under Bush…Only 4.7% Unemployed..Read the chart correctly numbskull
Report Post »leftcoastslut
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:25amdidn’t obama just announce his intension to run in 2012…. probably going to bring in those busses to work the neighborhoods, give you a little squeeze. wonder how many jobs he will create.
Report Post »takingonissues.com
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:23amWell of course the only defense the democrats will use is that it‘s Bush’s fault – that’s the only play from their play book that they know. Enough already. America knows why unemployment is not going away until we vote the democrats out of Congress and the White House. http://www.takingonissues.com
Report Post »HistoryStudent
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 11:29amObama never would have been elected if the people weren’t so disillusioned with Bush. Bush‘s shortcomings are exactly why we’re stuck with this poor excuse for a president. From that perspective, this whole mess is Bush’s fault.
Report Post »Breaker 19
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:12amA Boy’s Understanding
I was eating lunch today with my 10 year old grandson
Report Post »when his mom asked him “What is tomorrow?“ He said ”It’s
President’s Day”
She asked “What does that mean?” … I was waiting for something
profound…
He said, “President’s Day is when Obama steps out of the White House
and if he sees his shadow, we have 2 more years of unemployment.”
iheartusa
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 10:11amThat WAS profound and hilarious! Thanks for the laugh!
Report Post »Non-sequitur
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 10:37amYou stole that from a comic. Profound indeed.
Report Post »JustaThought
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:00am@TheSource … Who is it who cannot read a chart?! Do you even recall what happened in late 2001? Can you see that, nonetheless, employment rose and rose to it’s peak in late 2008? Then your hero took over and it plummeted. And now you are happy because it is almost back up to 2005 levels? Gee … at that rate we‘ll be back up to W’s numbers by late 2017! I think you need to change your username to OnTheSauce.
Report Post »wodiej
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:58amCharts and graphs don’t show the actual people who are either underemployed or stopped looking. I have been out of work for over a year. I have a college degree and tons of experience. Companies simply are making their current employees do more and not hiring. The ones who are hiring are doing so at rock bottom wages while CEO pay has increased 7% and their bonuses 47%.
The deck will always be stacked against the employee especially in a depressed economy. People say giving business tax breaks is the problem. No, you don’t understand. Business doesn’t pay taxes-we do. If they are taxed, regulated or given other mandates like Obamacare, they simply lay off employees and raise their prices. If they don’t make a profit, they don’t stay in business. Granted executive pay is greedy but most big companies do not care about employees-they care about getting the most from them with as little investment as possible.
If people aren’t working, they can’t buy and create production for other workers-plain and simple. In a nutshell, Obama’s policies are not working.
Report Post »TexasStu
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:45amI think there for I am. In obama’s case I think there for I lie. Psychosis, with dems it is all about power over the masses it is not about helping people never has been. All through the years dems have caused the poor to be more and more dependent on the government which makes them THINK the government is helping them when in fact it is holding them back and keeping them in their place. Also if you put this chart up with the spending that was happening while the dems were in control you would see just who caused the over spending as well.
Report Post »matt708
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:31amwith obama it’s all smoke and mirrors. nothing is as it seems.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:35amNocotine gum and mirrors or is he lying about that too?
Report Post »MaggieRose
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:28amThank you! Finally the truth on the real jobs market! I knew it wasn’t sunshine and lollipops like they were trying to have us believe.
Lt Col Allen West 2012
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:27amOsamba Hussein wont be showing that chart in his re election commercials
Report Post »scguitar
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:26amDoes this surprise anybody? Why can’t we get a president to tell us the truth about the economy?
Report Post »MaggieRose
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:31amIf he told us the truth on anything his head would explode
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:52amBeck is right. When all is said and done the O’Barry administration will go down in history as the most corrupt administration in American History.
Report Post »bomberotom
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:25ammaybe doubling the deficit wasnt such a great idea eh Obama?
Report Post »Hugh Williams
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:25amLord Obama has changed the way unemployment numbers are calculated. The decrease in unemployment is an illusion, look at the U6 numbers still at almost 17%. This is a big lie with the only purpose being the re-election of the God King Lord Obama. The leftist will lie, cheat and steal to keep and increase their power.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:21amPay no attention to the man behind the curtain. The great and powerful Obama has spoken…and unemployment is down.
Report Post »tinydd
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:07amI like “fuzzy math”, don’t you? A very sad situation in America and by the way, did you hear that Barry wants another four years to spend some more trillions?
Don’t forget to vote people, our grandchildren are depending on us.
Report Post »cranes
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:21amIf Obama continues with his liberal agenda It could hit bottom! Thank God I finally learned to trust him and not the government or any man!
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:20amwell will you look at that………………….employment peaked in 2007 now what happened in 2007 that could have done that???????????????
oh thats right 2006 elections which gave democrats a majority in both houses
funny how employment seems to tank whenever the democrats get any real control of congress
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:28amLooking at Employment number is much more telling that unemployment numbers. It‘s only because they’re tougher to misrepresent is why we don’t use them more frequently.
Report Post »tobywil2
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:42amPRESIDENT OBAMA’S MOTIVES:
Do you actually believe that Mr. Obama is actually trying to improve the economy? In recent history, almost all coups, resulting in a dictatorship were preceded by a very severe economic crisis. Is that economic crisis Mr. Obama’s objective? Remember when Rahm Emanuel , Obama’s chief of staff, stated one should never waste a crisis. What do you think he meant? You should be very afraid!
Mr. Obama presents 3 alternatives:
• Ignorance, which can be cured with knowledge
• Stupidity, which is forever
• Evil, he plans to avenge King George III by destroying the American Revolution and create a dictatorship.
Almost every initiative that Obama has instigated is destructive to the economy. Does anyone really believe that a President can be that stupid or ignorant? If you do, I have some perfectly dry, vacant land that is completely ready for development in Florida for sale cheap, cash only.
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:00am@Psychosis
Report Post »“…oh thats right 2006 elections which gave democrats a majority in both houses
funny how employment seems to tank whenever the democrats get any real control of congress…”
Exactly! The GOP needs to drive that fact home. They are such failures, when it comes to PR, especially.
TexasCommonSense
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:04amthesource, the way I read it, in January of 2009, when Obama took office, there were 142 million employed. The end of the chart shows less than 140 million employed. By my math that‘s a net loss of 2 million jobs and far fewer than the peak of Bush’s job numbers at 146.5 million. Looks like you’re the one who can’t read a chart.
As for your “Bush screwed it up” part. I contend the financial crisis was mostly due to government intervention in the mortgage market. Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, The Community Re-investment Act, etc.
Report Post »fertlmind
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:07am@thesource
Better check your sources,…and your facts!
Report Post »Obamma is a perpetual downward turn
He does it on purpose
it’s his ideology,…and it also seems to be yours
Mines different
Bush had some problems
but Obamma IS the problem now !!!
banjarmon
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:11amIs this chart is just the opposite for work over seas? The UNIONS have, with their tactics, sent jobs to china and other places.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:18amTHESOURCE:
How’s Wonderland, Alice???
When I read your comments, it becomes painfully apparent that America is running on “fumes”. Independent thought and simple reasoning is a thing of the past. You are an example of the progressive’s end game.
Report Post »thesource
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:20am@FERTLMIND what? unemployment is going down. What the hell are you guys talking about. I am not even an Obama fan but not blind to the fact that the economy is getting better.
-KACK-
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:23amThe stimulus caused temporary downshift in unemployment. Big deal, Source.
Report Post »Czar Casm
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:45amHey, I got a good idea! Let’s pass the Dream Act ( Amnesty ) and add about 15 to 20 million people to the work force!
Obama is Bush on steroids.
Report Post »iheartusa
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:49am@thesource…I think you are reading the chart wrong. This chart shows employment numbers, not unemployment numbers.
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:51amSo Bush is responsible for adding approximately 10 million jobs under his watch and Barack Hussein Obama has lost 8 million jobs under his watch. WTF is the matter with people, HOW did this guy get elected? And what a scam if he gets reelected. Time to move to Costa Rica, live on the beach and write the rest of my days.
Report Post »MontanaRob
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:52amBoth Bush and Obumbler were/are a problem! So was Clinton, Carter and Bush 41. They are all globalists, they just come in different flavors like Kool-Aid. What we need is the Real Thing!!!
Report Post »Boss J
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 10:03am@Thesource- How many of those people who got jobs are now working in state or federal govt jobs? And what do you suppose is going to happen to those newly created positions when either the economy crashes again or the politicians finally start cutting the GD spending?
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 10:14amEmployment looks to be at the same level as in 05. How many people were born or came over the border in the past 5 years? I think the chart is way behind the birth rate and illegal worker problem. It actually also shows an unreal run up in the jobs market due to the pumping of money and bad fiscal policy putting everyone to work and getting them into homes over the past decade. I would like to see the federal debt in comparison over the same time period. It would show the past decade of job increases were put on the national credit card. The only problem is deficit spending is not putting people in real jobs anymore. The Gig is UP!
Report Post »jackrorabbit
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 11:09amAnd the bubbles popped, housing and investment, not to mention that the commercial paper market almost froze up.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 12:37pmNice try. And of course what happened between 2007 and 2008 was the financial crisis that occurred under Bush’s watch. And of course it was his Administration that devised and proposed the bank bailout.
Report Post »valricoslash
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:10pmObama’s real gol was not to give the down trodden the opportunity to lift themselves up into the middle class, but rather to pull the floor out from udner the middle clas and bringus into the ghetto of the down trodden. Just look at how many more people have had theri lives destroyed by this econiomic crises. But those who spend teir entire lives on the government dole have seen no change. The welfare checks, free medical,etc. just keep on coming. Although he claims to be against the rich, he knows he can’t really do anything about them. They just hide their income so increasing their taxes has no effect. Besides he needs thier big fund raising ability for his reelection. Therefore, the covert attacks on the middle class earners. That is why he is a hypocrite and a liar.
Report Post »Lucy Larue
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 7:03pm@THESOURCE,
The source for what you twit?, complete ignorance?!
Please to remove the letters U and C from your posting name. That way it is closer to what you are.Non?
It is unbelievable that people like you still take your marching orders from Lex Luthor(George Soros)and have no qualms about doing so.
Sore…,are you familiar with the story of “Pandora’s Box”?
Report Post »Uriel
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:32pmRidiculous skewed graph, just like the one on food stamps. WHERE’S THE ORIGIN? ORIGIN SHOULD BE AT ZERO!!!
If you don’t know how to graphically represent information HONESTLY …. then stop misrepresenting information graphically.
Report Post »Uriel
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 9:35pmIt’s bad enough that the Left routinely misrepresents data, without Beck doing it too.
Report Post »Czar Casm
Posted on April 5, 2011 at 12:23am@ Uriel
Report Post »Start at Zero? That’s interesting. I wonder if there ever was a zero. When would you start? Seriously, not being Czarcastic. 1788 maybe, when the constitution took effect? Most citizens were agrarian, you know, working their own land themselves with only family as help. I wonder how many people in 1788 had a job working for others as compared to working for themselves?